Are you making aggressive eye contact? Body language? Tone of voice? Hand movements that are large?
I have to look next to a dog that i dogsit for, she can't handle direct eye contact from me, it's scary and she cowers, even with me talking gently to her, even after a few years. If i look next to her and keep my body angled sideways, i can talk to her normal and she behaves with normal actions including jumping on me and licking.
Change up how you approach him, where you look, how you interact and take it down a notch and see what happens.
How old is he? Is he neutered? Did you just get him? Vet visit? Not enough info, but in the meantime, I would keep diapers on him. They make washable belly bands for males, and I get the absorbent inserts for my dog. Makes life liveable.
I LOVE my washable belly bands! I fostered to adopt a retired race dog who hadn’t been neutered yet (surgery was scheduled a for a week later though) and being intact, of course everything in my house needed to be made “his.” -_- Belly bands were a lifesaver until I could get him to focus long enough to teach him not to do that
Definitely do not punish any of this or even make disappointed noises. He’s incredibly sensitive and appeasing by the sound of it. I would leave a light drag line on him to minimize the confrontation of have to leash him for now until he becomes more confident.
Sounds like a young dog and this is im happy peeing. It will stop fairly quick. Try just walking buy the crate a few times or stand next to it without opening it or acknowledging your dog. Then after it settles down just open the door. They don't want to pee where they live but it's something young dogs do.
Adding because I rescued a dog once that was definitely abused, and he cowered and peed any time I reached to pet him when coming home or leaving. He definitely got beaten for the nervous pees which ALWAYS makes the problem worse, you can’t punish them for it. It helped a lot to stop trying to pet or pick him up, give lots of treats and build trust slowly. When I came home I started just ignoring him and tossing a treat or two until he was calm. He stopped the fear peeing within a few days :)
It’s called submissive piddling and the dog does this as it’s nervous of the situation.
Avoid eye contact, do not look or speak to the dog nor angle your body towards them. Essentially do not acknowledge them at all until they are in a relaxed state of mind. Then you can pet/interact. It will take months or sometimes even years to fully correct this behavior. [Here](https://www.embracepetinsurance.com/waterbowl/article/submissive-urination) are a few tips.
This. We adopted a dog that had been shot by his previous owners. He had such bad anxiety being confined, so we let him roam free. To get him inside, we'd have to hide behind the door, so he didn't feel trapped. We'd open the door and step away to let him out. Took 3 months before he approached us on his own. Took 6 months before we could even get a collar on him (we have an acre so he didnt need a collar or leash). And it took a year before we could leash him and walk him.
We've had him for 4 years now, and he still gets spooked and will pee a little, But when he sees the leash come out, he gets so excited! When he wants something, he comes up and nudges us. And he lays his head on my lap while I'm eating, lays by my bed when I'm sleeping. He doesn't cuddle, but when he wants love, he asks.
It takes time, especially with a dog that's been traumatized. If they're food motivated, it helps. Keep small treats around and give them one when they do something good, even if it's just getting up without peeing.
So wonderful your dog gets a second chance to live ❤ thanks for explaining the journey with him too because every dog, with a tramatic past or not, needs time and patience.
So wonderful your dog gets a second chance to live ❤ thanks for giving him a great home & explaining the journey with him too because every dog, with a tramatic past or not, needs time and patience.
Yes! Both of my dogs were like this. My older one started coming around after a few weeks, was completely fine after a couple months. My younger dog took a lot longer. I basically just tried to exist around them while basically ignoring them and it seemed to work pretty well.
I rescued a dog and she had these exact same challenges.
To add onto the above comment, here are a couple of other things:
1) dogs are uncomfortable with eye contact, they just get used to it because they interact with humans. Dogs don’t look other dogs in the eye. This is the number one thing to avoid when dog is in an excited or nervous state.
2) dog should never be left unattended uncrated until the potty issues are under control
3) scolding the dog for this will make the problem worse
4) make it rain with treats when the dog goes outside
5) do not interact with dog until the dog is completely calm and has gone potty outside
6) do not lean over the dog, including petting on top of the head
Once you have been practicing these items successfully, the issue should correct itself. And of course check with vet it isn’t another issue. If it’s only happening with men, it’s 99.9% submissive peeing.
Our last foster just kinda… leaked whenever he was happy. I’d pick him up straight out of his crate and take him outside and usually caught a couple stray drops.
He did it once when he was getting bellies. Almost got me in the face.
My border collie would leak if somebody laughed or smiled whilst interacting with him, fountain wees were also a thing he has peed into too many people's mouths to count, but never whilst covering himself with his tail so we came to doubt the submissive urination theory, sure enough as it became more selective we realised higher excitement = higher probability. He's 5 and still leaks for our dog walker, but I like this because I know it means he loves her and is in good hands when I can't be there for him, she just has to come in through the back door so it is an easy to clean surface 🤣
Your dog can't come in the house because of this issue? That will only make it worse. Being left alone outside feels to a dog like being abandoned by its pack, thus increasing anxiety. Your dog probably feels rejected by you, and in response is losing control of his bladder when you interact with him. At least try a belly band or something before resorting to keeping your dog outside all the time.
This makes sense I will do that instead also just as a small thing he’s not outside he is in the garage and we still do spend alot of time together as the garage is my chill spot but I understand what yu are saying
My neighbors have a 6 month old large breed dog who is turning out to be a handful. I have noticed the dad playing fetch in the front yard with the boys while the dog whines, locked in the backyard. This breaks my heart. I am trying to figure out a way to give this dog more enrichment than this family is. I beg you not to do likewise with your dog. Not saying you are, but that is the image that came to my mind when I read your words.
Can you explain this with more details? The dog lives in the backyard or is it there for just the moment the father plays with his children? Because if it’s the second option there’s nothing wrong with it. There were situations where we all took our kids across the street and left our dog while we were letting our kids ride their bikes and my dog was whining, and she does that when we leave the house which is a normal response.
Like a lot less. A dog will die in a garage that's not temperature regulated.
OP, the person I am replying to was very kind. Your dog will drop dead if you cannot control the temperature. This goes for both hot and cold conditions.
Sounds like he actually nervous peeing. If he is a puppy then I would worry too much as puppies can often spot a little from excitement or nervousness because their bladder muscles just aren’t strong enough yet. If it’s an adult dog then you might need to work on some training and possibly look at anti anxiety medication but that last one really depends on weather the training is working.
The general advice is to try whenever possible to ignore them when they are excited until they calm down enough to interact peacefully. They usually outgrow this. It’s fairly common in young dogs. Someone downvoted my last comment but I’ve been training puppies for years using positive only methods and this is the approach we typically recommend
Do you discipline him when he pees? If so, stop. Dogs don’t understand discipline, it just scares or confuses them. You said in another comment that this dog only does this with you/ which means your dog is scared shitless of you.
I am a HUGE proponent of positive reinforcement only training, I’ve raised three puppies in the last 2.5 years. I have three well trained large dogs, who trust me implicitly. They were potty trained within two weeks. I’ve never had to yell at them, let alone anything harsher than that. I highly recommend watching kikopup/ she has a series of puppy training videos. Treat him like he is a brand new dog, and start with the basics. You need to train yourself more than you need to train him.
This. Dogs don't need discipline when they eliminate in the house-they need positive reinforcement when they eliminate where they should. Any number of issues can cause inappropriate elimination (fear, submissiveness, excitement, medical issues) but the last thing you want to do is "punish" them (intentionally or unintentionally) when they have no clue what they did wrong or why you're suddenly angry at them. It will only make the issue worse. Positive reinforcement works.
Yes. When I got my dog she would not pee close to any human because her previous owners disciplined her so much for indoor accidents that she flat out thought it was wrong to go at all. Our first walk was 2h and she didn't pee one time, this resulted in her finding secret spots in the house away from any people once we returned. Thankfully I was able to reverse it after about a month but I'm guessing that's why they got rid of her when it was their fault to begin with.
One thing I want to add is that dogs that submissively pees don’t even realize when they are doing it. My dog pees and then goes inspect her own pee like “Oh did I pee?”. It’s something non intentional. It’s not like they are doing that to make you mad or ruin your house. As much as it is frustrating, I feel bad for them in this situation.
I noticed this advice not to discipline is critical especially for the instance when you come home/let the dog out of the crate because they can associate this discipline with when you come home or when you let them out of the crate—not with the peeing. If they make mistakes like this right when you come home, it’s better to ignore it so they don’t attach the discipline to the wrong event.
A friend's family had a dog who peed out of excitement her whole life. When I came over, I got the dog really excited when she would come outside to greet us until she peed herself empty. Then she can chill out and get used to the visitors while still being able to go back inside.
We had a dog like this. Everytime she gets excited or scared, she pees. Even just petting her can lead to accidents. We resolved it by being slow & gentle with her, always having a calm voice, and giving her a heads up when we're going to touch her so she won't be surprised.
Eventually, the issue just resolved itself? She was confident and had better bladder control. Accidents were rare.
Still take her to the vet tho to make sure it's not an underlying health issue.
My dog is 9 months old & does they when we come home bc of excitement.. so I jut walk thru the door & don’t pay attention to him . I walk out back with him & make a big deal & now he does the peeing outside
For YEARS my one sister could make my dogs pee when she'd come visit... It was her voice because we're all dog people, she thought it was hilarious I hated it because I'd have to clean it up lol
Change things about how you greet him, could just be simple things that sends em over the top with you, I wouldn't say it's a bad thing it's just annoying to cleanup lol
My dog use to do this… it’s called submissive/excitement urine. Usually when dogs get over stimulated or are in fear this will happen. It’s hard but completely ignore your dog…. When he greets you with high energy don’t engage at all or give any eye contact. Then when he’s calm and sitting down use positive reinforcement like giving him a treat for just being calm.
I have a one year old is pretty much the same with me. What I find works is I let her out of the crate but don't talk to her or make eye contact. It's at least 5 minutes after I let her out that I take her out or put her leash on. I just get her to settle before I interact with her at all really.
She'll also pee when someone comes over so I've had my guests ignore her for 5-10 minutes until she gets used to them being around.
Thank you I will try that he get real happy and will jump all over me which is the second thing I would like to address but if I even tell him down and sit he will start spraying the floor all in anticipation so I will try to ignore and fix after
We have the same dog apparently! Mine is a jumper too. Let’s deal with the pee thing first and then the jumping (because who wants to keep cleaning up dog pee all the time)
Exactly I don’t mind the jumping he is a very dense dog and can easily know ppl over so I want to fix that but I rather not have my foot peed on all the time lol
My dog did this. It is submissive peeing. He did it when he was excited. Some breeds are prone to this. Cocker spaniels in particular. He's almost two now and has almost entirely grown out of this. Once in a while a tiny oops at meal time. Most dogs grow out of submissive peeing.
Edit as I wrote "is" instead of "in". fat fingers
I have a somewhat new rescue that had nervous peeing issues and over time she has basically stopped other than when she is very afraid. One thing that helped me in the beginning was going in for pets with my palm up, under chin, rather than top of head. I don’t know why, but this helped a lot with interaction. If he is also spending a lot of time in the garage, you are likely making this issue worse because he is in away from everyone which makes every single interaction bigger for him since it’s out of the ordinary.
Happy bladder. Try to stay as neutral as you can in voice and posture. Drop little treats to distract while opening the crate (cheese, bits of hot dog) and try a slip lead if you don't have a fenced yard to let him out into. A quick lasso will be less threatening that hovering and trying to clip the lead.
Try not to punish or show frustrations or an uncontrolled response may become a habit.
Get a sample of the first pee of the morning and take it, and the pup to the vet. Urinary tract infections can cause incontinence, and some breeds are genetically predisposed to incontinence.
Please stop leaving your dog alone in the garage. He needs company, socialization, interaction etc. Leaving him alone will heighten anxiety/depression and make the nervous/submission peeing worse, as well as just generally being a not so kind thing to do to the poor dog. He’s afraid and anxious. It’s going to take time. As others have mentioned, don’t interact with him until he calms. Let him out extremely frequently, and when he potties outside praise him and give him treats. Do not scold or punish him.
Thank you I did not think it was a big deal as the garage is my main social environment I also have an older dog who they get along great with that is out there
As long as he can freely come and go wherever you are and has lots of space to move around and gets lots of sunshine and fresh air he is fine. Just don’t ever isolate him somewhere where he can’t get to you (obviously doesn’t apply to you like going to the bathroom or something). I think taking him out very frequently (I currently have a puppy and he goes out to potty every 20-30 minutes), giving him lots of praise, and lots of treats will really help you!
My rescue was like this. He was afraid of women. I spent a lot of time relationship building, but it was aggravating. I couldn’t even set my fork down on the plate without him freaking out and submissively peeing.
I gave him lots of treats, snuggles, one on one time, and he got better after a couple of years. He’s 11 years old now (got him at 2 years) and he’s an independent doggy that loves to be a lap dog. Was worth the effort.
I think your dog is scared of you honestly. He's picking up on your frustration with him for sure. Try a diaper so you can spend more time with him and he can go in the house. I hope he's not sitting in a cage for hours and hours. Sounds like that's how you're treating him.
How old is the dog and what breed if you know?
If its a puppy please understand they pee a lot, and they will learn bladder control.
Also please dont leave your dog outside. I know cleaning up after a potty training dog isn't fun, but leaving your dog outside doesn't help fix the issue, it just makes it better for you and not the dog, and its anxiety inducing for them (being left outside for long periods of time alone makes them literally and figuratively feel solitary, dogs are social pack animals, so this is not good for them).
Also don't rule out a trip to the vet to make sure there isn't something like a UTI or bladder infection going on.
Stick with it, it will get better in time ; barring a deformity or birth defect in the urinary system, all dogs can learn to be house trained.
How long are you keeping this dog in the crate exactly? I don’t think the dog is scared of you, I think he’s just not getting enough attention and when you finally let him out he’s so berserk from deprivation. I see this a LOT in crated dogs. Try not using the crate anymore.
You didn’t mention how old?
Did you discipline as a puppy for accidents and if so how?
If you are the only one he does this with then it’s important to identify what happened then work on moving forward with positive reinforcement to rebuild trust.
I had a dog who did this. It was a little frustrating as I generally don't like my feet being peed on. I realized after trying to "train him out of it" (didn't work) that every time I greeted him I was standing over him. I stopped greeting him when I came home immediately and instead sat down and called him over to me. No pee. I got in the habit of never greeting or petting him until I was seated at his level and lo and behold, it took care of the problem. When he got older and wasn't as nervous, I was able to greet him from any level.
Try sitting down (just avoid the pee) to greet him and see if he's interpreting you standing over him as a threat. Note, my dog did not show any fear and in fact was a total wiggle butt when we got home, but would pee every time we bent down to pet him so your dog may not act like he's afraid, but he clearly is if he's peeing.
What kind of dog is he? If he is a peke or chihuahua, they seem to have trouble with peeing. Large dogs do not, as frequently.
I would take him to the vet, if you can. You may need to put him on a sedative of some kind, If he gets so excited he can’t control his bladder. Just a thought, but your vet will know more about how to treat him.
I rescued a dog about 7 months old, same problem. Out of nowhere, pee. Me Coming home, walking into the house after being outside , just standing in the middle of the living room, pee.
(He had been abused.)After he started feeling comfortable he quit. It took a couple of months but he is awesome now and won’t pee in the house for nothing.
***Also, vet check for a urinary tract infection.
OP- first and foremost take the pup to the vet to rule out any additional medical issues. Even if it appears to be behavioral toward you, it could be an indicator of a health problem.
Poor guy sounds terrified. First, please go to a vet bc your dog may actually just have a bladder or kidney infection. Once that has been ruled out, work with a R+ dog trainer to help you out! If there’s no infection he’s probably just genuinely very scared and that breaks my heart. The trainer is more for *you* than the dog so please have an open mind. It’s probably your body language/eye contact/tone of voice etc.
Vet first to check for a bladder/kidney infection then a positive reinforcement (R+) dog trainer to help w the fear.
Good luck OP and please don’t be mad at your dog!!
Research submissive urination. Mine was like that, too, and we had to use alllll the tricks. That, age, and extra trainin (he has a tricks title and does agility non-competitively) gave him the confidence to exist in the human world.
What breed and age? There are some more prone to this. I’d invest in training to build his confidence. Sometimes it’s just a question of time and maturity.
This dog is suffering, poor thing. You need to take your dog to the vet to get an all clear on medical. Get a referral from your vet for a vet behaviorist or a certified canine behavior consultant to work on relationship building with you and your dog.
How old is he? It seems like some anxious or fear problem. To help you I need to know a little more about him... Is he a rescue dog? puppy? Since whe does he live with you? When that behavior started? Does he has any disease?
My last boss used to bring her dogs into the office. One of them would pee anytime someone other than the owners gave her attention. It didn’t seem like fear, definitely more excited.
Yea I don’t think he fears me more like he’s super excited for my interaction after he pees he does put on the sad face cuz he knows he peed in the house I don’t punish him for it
My dog had submissive urination. He would pee when he got excited. The solution was not engage him when I opened his crate, when I came home, when people came over. I was affectionate but I didn’t get excited and fuss. He has since outgrown it.
Is your dog a rescue dog? My cousins had a rescue dog what was TERRIFIED of me. Turns out the dog had come from an abusive home and we think the abuser looked like me. Try having someone else (if you can) be the one to handle pee time and then just sit and read or something where the dog can see you and learn to just be around you. Have treats for them coming near you. Let them start to associate you will something good.
I purchased him from someone that was walking him at the park when I was with my kids they seemed very caring for him and only wanted a bigger place for him since they had a one bedroom that being said I have no way of knowing
This is sad to hear I try not to be aggressive towards him as I don’t want him to be aggressive back to others as I have 3 about to be 4 little children that adore him
He is afraid and now it’s a feedback loop because I’m guessing you or someone else has scolded him for peeing. Dogs pee like this to show submission and when they’ve been scolded for literally doing everything in their power to say to you “you’re the boss” they get seriously perturbed. You can never scold or negatively react to your dog peeing submissively like this when they’re this sensitive! Every time he cowers, you lay down, get on your back, and coax him. Have treats every time you greet him and do this. My dog did the same thing until I learned to ignore the peeing. It was frustrating of course but I’d get home > he’d greet me and pee in the kitchen > cower away from me now that he’s peed and thinks he’s done even more wrong > I’d have treats and lay down away from him on my back until he came and ate them all > take him outside and give him a treat if/when he pees outside > clean up mess. Only had to do this for about a week and he stopped peeing when I got home!
My dog wasn't like this, so much, but he had many accidents until I got him neutered, and then no incontinence. Don't know if this would apply to your situation.
I know. I fought it for years. My wife wanted me to but I didn’t. Finally broke down and did it. He was probably 3 or 4. Seriously. Instantly resolved. Now my boy is 14 and unfortunately just began having issues with it because of old age.
Yes I will think about it and see wat the vet thinks I would love to just get 1 puppy from him so my kids can carry the dogs bloodline I think it would be real interesting to be old and see my dogs great grandson playing with my grandson
My other family members don’t actively interact with him the will pet him play with him at his request but I’m the only one that really seeks him out.. some ppl have told me that he may be scared of me which is hard to hear after he pees a def see him being ashamed and more shy but I don’t really punish him since he’s in the garage or outside but I can say I don’t have a verbal reaction sometimes that may scare him … mostly he pees and yu can tell he feels bad for the accident so I don’t add to it
Yea I’m really the only one that interacts with him during this excited state everyone else deals with him after he calms down we have a lot of 1 on 1 time nobody else really seems him out but play with him as he comes to them
How often is your dog alone during the day? Where does he sleep? If it were me, I would get a belly band for him for inside the house. Then, I would keep him next to you at all times, no matter what you’re doing, so he gets used to being around you and it’s not crazy excitement when you interact.
My dog submissively pees all the time, it was the main part of our memories with her in the first year. I felt like I couldn’t interact with her otherwise she’d pee, it was very frustrating. Any emotion that she had shed pee so I did research and realized that if I ignore her behavior, it would eventually stop. In the first year every time she peed it would cause a negative reaction in every body, we would say “Don’t pee! Go outside!” We would really express frustration and then we just started ignoring and she stopped. I don’t greet her, don’t make eye contact. If I want to bond with her I take her outside to play. As she gets older, this starts going away. Eye contact can be very intimidating for dogs, you make it with the wrong dog and it can even bite you. Luckily your dog just pees. Building confidence is also important, if you train her new tricks and reward with treats, redirect all the attention from the peeing to other things it could also help. Always make sure you ignore the pee because they become self conscious about it. Keeping your dog outside may increase their insecurity. They may feel unsure if they will pee again and then pee as a response.
I had a dog like this growing up. She grew out of it eventually but it definitely sucked while it was happening. I think she was nervous. Her life before us could have been stressful
It's probably an anxiety reaction. If they are not cowering, it could be excited peeing. My dog is 3 and started to get better when he was about 1, but sometimes still does it. Has your dog been anxious since they were a puppy? It is not necessarily a fear reaction. You may need to ignore them when you first see them. Open the crate, don't act excited, let them outside, bring them in, act calmly towards them. Let them have time to settle before you approach them with pets and attention.
Not one, but two dogs in the garage. They shouldn’t be allowed to own any since this is a pattern of neglect and leaving their dogs in the garage all day and night.
My brother’s dog used to have a ton of accidents in the house. Found out she’s allergic to tap water and had a ton of bladder and kidney stones developed because of it.
It started gradually and got worse over time.
Vet visit to rule out health problems and ask about anxiety meds which can help take the edge off enough he can learn what is safe & absorb training.
Also you can’t leave your dog alone outside the house, even in the garage. Figure out a way to have him inside. An x-pen layered with pee pads is a good place to start.
Never yell, complain, punish or correct for peeing when you don’t want him to, only praise for when he goes how you want.
I would do a vet appointment to check for a bladder infection and if nothing there try a male dog diaper it wraps are the belly wiener area and prevents the dribbles from getting all over the house buy a couple and you’ll be dribble free
I agree with talking to the vet, and maybe they can refer you to a behavior therapist. my dog didn't have this issue but was a rescue and had some other problems. behaviorist helped a lot. and then good quality formal obedience training. i know it doesn't seem like that correlates, but I've found obedience training to be helpful with many things. it strengthened my relationship with my dog and improved his behavior in general. we did beginner (twice) and then intermediate A&B. it's a commitment for sure, but the long-term benefits are tremendous. Also, anxiety could be a concern. some dogs are just anxious by nature. my dog ended up on a little prozac which made a world of difference along with the training. not saying your dog needs that, but just something else to think about in case it is anxiety related. my only other thoughts are make sure dog is exercised enough daily and not locked in a crate for too long during a 24 hr period. and every time the dog pees in the house, don't say anything, just take the dog outside. and every time dog pees outside, give him a tiny treat or 2 and make a big party out of it until behavior is corrected. if dog is just excited to see you, ignore until calm. (ignore bad behavior, reward good). doing some focus training might help a lot here. it might become more time intensive than you'd like, but a lot of time now means less time in the long-run. good luck, OP. let's hope it's something easily trainable once you find the root cause.
I have a 12 year old chihuahua and for YEARS she did this until I finally realized its the high pitched voice I used to talk to her. I stopped, she stopped.
My dog did that too when he was little. The first time he actually saw me, he peed on my shoe (that’s how I knew I’m taking him home).
He grew out of it eventually, the more time we spent together
I had a dog that did this whenever anyone came into the house. We affectionately dubbed her “the urinator”. She eventually stopped except when my husband petted her. Still always peed when a man talked to her or touched her.
Maybe, move slowly, only very small hand movements, zero eye contact…
Does he seem nervous, or excited? I had a dog who would pee every time she saw one of my friends because she loved him so much and got excited when he came over. She stopped once she was spayed, idk if they're connected or if it was just that once she was old enough to be spayed she "outgrew" the peeing thing.
You'd probably be best to go to the vet, in case your pup has some sort of urinary condition that needs treatment.
If not that, he may be scared, or just super excited to see you. Is he wiggling around and jumping, or tucking his tail and freezing up? Body language can tell you a lot.
I see a lot of comments blaming and shaming OP because some believe that the dog may be urinating due to fear. I personally didn't have enough details from OP's initial post, but I see OP thanking others for their suggestions, which leads me to think that it's possible that OP is not abusing his/their dog.
Could we try to have more compassion for someone who is asking for help? Whether or not OP made mistakes or the dog has a health issues or it's some other reason for the uncontrolled urinating, I'm reading OP's comments of "Thank you; I'll try that."
It will probably take a lot of patience and time. I saw another comment about not making eye contact and I think that’s the way to go. Don’t acknowledge the dog whatsoever until it calms down then you can try petting. If he pees wait longer next time. Don’t react to the peeing in anyway. If you ever interact and he doesn’t pee then make sure you give a treat.
Sounds like your dog is inbred. Had a dog like this once and the only way it could come in the house was to wear a diaper. This doesn't get better with age infact it gets worse. For us it became a quality vs quantity . If you go the diaper route then put Vaseline around the area that will get wet and watch out for friction burns wear the diaper rubs again the skin . Everytime you change the diaper clean the area just like you would a baby and Vaseline and cornstarch the area.
As a dog groomer, I am always sad for the parents of the pee dogs.
Sometimes it’s accidental, but most of the time it’s intentional. They want to be in charge.
I’m so sorry!!
Your dog is a submissive pee-er. It's almost impossible to stop. Sometimes they grow out of it, but mine didn't. He peed every time anyone touched him, played with him, put the leash on, etc. He started getting depressed cause he hardly got pets or cuddles. It was awful. I tried everything. Training. Diapers. Nothing worked. I ended up re-homing him to a couple that was used to dogs with pee problems and they didn't care if the dog peed all of the time.
Consider having him checked for prostate issues. Our dog was intact but a lot of times having testicles but never using them causes prostate swelling. The swelling presses on the urethra and makes it so the dog can’t empty his bladder all at once like he’s supposed to. If the pee doesn’t come out in a single stream but instead randomly spurts, you’ve got yourself a dog with urethra issues, potentially for the aforementioned reasons.
A neuter operation fixed our dogs problems. Use it or lose it, boys!
Could be he pees bc he sees you as dominant and it’s a submissive reaction. My dog pees when he’s nervous or excited. We’ve seen the vet and they said he has no bladder issues. They suggested not touching him (since it only happens when we pet him when he’s excited/nervous) until he’s calmed down. It works. Definitely go see the vet to determine if it’s a bladder issue bc it very well could be. - they also may be able to prescribe some anti anxiety medications as that was the next resort with our little guy if avoiding contact when he’s excited didn’t work.
My dog was like this; he would get so excited when I put his harness on to go outside that he would pee everytime, I had to put on his harness over a pee pad and then bring him out even though he had pretty much emptied himself already. He eventually got better with time, I believe he just had a harder time controlling his bladder. It probably lasted until he was a year and a half and gradually got better, I believe I started putting on his harness outside at some point
Your dog seems like it’s an incredibly anxious pup and also afraid of you based on some of your replies here. Like others have said already, changing your body language and voice tone will probably help a lot. Good luck to you both!!
my dog of 9 years still does this and idk how to train him to not do it 😭 my family and i speak as quietly and kindly as possible to him but the moment he sees us, he pees, whenever we touch him, he pees, etc...
My dog stopped submissive peeing when I bent down to his level. If I would call him over from across the yard I would crouch down as he was making his way to me. Give pets/treats when he responds. Crouch down and then open the crate door and give a pet/smooch on his way out. Etc. Sometimes the height difference can be intimidating. Don’t stand over him and holler, give some space and try using hand signals for basic commands like sit and down
I would also learn to do clicker training using “capturing” as the primary method as opposed to luring with treats. Do something meaningless like shaping to get into a cardboard box.
https://youtu.be/xZSnitaj5pg?si=zdRnLQA4EBDIefi3
This is just one video of many I’m sure. I find free shaping to be confidence building as the dog is in the driver seat and not dealing with the emotionality of trainer expectations with luring (which includes hovering over the dog, distracting and provoking anxiety in the subject as we try to get the dog to do stuff).
So my dog pees when she is excited, but it gets worse if I feed her dry kibble as she drinks a ton of water. Try adding some fiber and non dry stuff to his food. Or soak the kibble as it won’t make him so thirsty he will drink a ton of water and more likely pee. Green beans, yogurt, eggs, fat trimmings unseasoned, fruits and veggies, oatmeal, rice, etc.
Also check if he has a uti or bladder infection.
Has he been neutered? Hormones can make that worse. If it’s a smaller dog, it is not as uncommon. Regardless, you should let the vet know about it, as infections or anatomical issues can also cause more pee problems or worse infections.
I'm a big aggressive dude, with a little itty bitty chihuahua. I've had to learn to talk softer, not be as quick with my movements, when I go to pet him I place my hand down by him palm up so he understands I'm not trying to hurt him. It's been a process for both of us, but is now to the point I can jump him and play with him without him being scared of me.
You’re scaring the piss out of him. Take all of you down about 5 notches and just BE with this dog. You or someone has been too much for his delicate sensibilities. Please reset, quiet down, and start again.
I think your energy is making him nervous. Maybe he has a birth defect or an infection? Is he fixed, is it possible something was damaged?
I have a pomeranian, who marks everything in and out of the house. I tried everything to attempt to discourage his habit. As frustrating and inconvenient as that was I would never get rid of him. I don't have the heart to break my dogs heart and spirit for something that he obviously can't stop doing. Something in his brain made him feel the need to pee on stuff. So I solved it by putting diapers on him. He wears it from the moment he's off my bed. My bed is high and he won't jump off the bed. My boy is used to the routine. I put his diaper on and off he goes to the back yard. The diaper is around his waist and just covers his penis. I change him maybe twice a day. He sleeps without one because he sleeps in my bed.
Now, that solved any peeing issues. Doggy diapers can get expensive, especially if this is what will be for years to come. After trial and error I have the perfect solution. I buy baby diapers and I use the 1 inch wide green or orange painters tape, to hold the diaper around his waist. I only open diaper, I do not unfold it because it was struggle to try to keep it on . I only use a strip of about 6 or 8 inches of tape, to hold it loosely in place . I make sure it's not tight on him, that'd be dangerous and uncomfortable. My dog enjoys the house, no pee spots anywhere!!
I hope you don't give up on your little guy. Your dog loves you, more than he loves himself.
They make machine washable doggy diapers you can buy on Amazon, a 3 pack costs like 20 bucks. Highly recommend them.
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you can use a belly band to help as well as change up how you interact with him, belly bands are essentially diapers for male dogs but they can help with submissive peeing and marking because typically if they wet themselves and realize it doesn't feel good (before anyone claims this I'm not suggesting to leave it on him to teach him a lesson) and it can help them realize they don't need to urinate to get their feelings across, and as a pro you can have pup in the house without worrying he'll pee everywhere, of course check the band often and change when wet :)
He could have a bladder/kidney infection. One should always rule out biological causes before one ventures to remedy behavioral causes. That being said, a behavior can stem from something that originated from a biological drive, but became learned.
More likely, I think he is frightened by how frustrated and angry you are at this point. Peeing is a submissive act.
Your dog could have a bladder infection and the excitement of seeing you could be getting them so excited they can't hold it. Yes even if this is only happening with just you.
I will be very blunt here because I think it is important. If you are unwilling to bring your dog to the vet to get checked out you should not have a dog and should rehome them. I am not saying this is the case I am just putting that out there.
It may also be that your dog needs more quality walks. Dogs do not just go out and pee real quick. Their walks are a way of marking territory and examining threats and creatures of interest through their scents.
Dogs are very strategic about where they go to the bathroom all the way up till where they can not hold it anymore. So they need plenty of time to explore with their nose during their walks so they can properly fully relieve themselves and it make be in several different spots.
Rule out a medical reason. Get a belly band and work on building a trusting relationship. It will be easier for you if you don't have to deal with the pee all the time.
What you’re describing sounds like submissive wetting. Is he a rescue? There’s every chance that this behavior may be trauma related. Consulting your vet about anti anxiety medication/incontinence medication would probably be the best course of action.
Sounds like submissive/anxious urination. Leaving him outside is most likely making it worse.
First, get with a vet. Rule out any potential medical issues like incontinence, infections, etc. Also talk to them about anxiety and get their thoughts on that. Some dogs thrive with simple training, some need intense training and medication. It just depends on the individual dog.
Once they’re medically cleared, trying adjusting your body language and work on confidence building. It will take time for both of you to get the hang of it.
My dog does this too -- but to a lesser extent. He's been impossible to train (common with his breed), and we've had to resort to disposable belly bands (like diapers for male dogs).
We tried the washable fabric ones first, and they were terrible. They leaked and caused terrible rashes on his lil' weenie, even with multiple changes a day and keeping him clean as best I could. Eventually, I tried some disposable ones off Amazon that have been life changing. They keep him very dry and rarely ever leak. No rashes, either! :-)
I still take him outside for real potty breaks and remove his diaper/belly band to allow things to breathe during that time; but when he's in the house, the belly band stays on! The floors stay much cleaner this way.
The brand I use is called Honeycare, found on Amazon. They're listed as "all-absorb disposable male wraps".
Hope this helps -- good luck!
My dog did this and I just don't look at him and when I call him I let him come to me I don't pick him up or go for him and it's helped he's much better but still has his moments
Are you making aggressive eye contact? Body language? Tone of voice? Hand movements that are large? I have to look next to a dog that i dogsit for, she can't handle direct eye contact from me, it's scary and she cowers, even with me talking gently to her, even after a few years. If i look next to her and keep my body angled sideways, i can talk to her normal and she behaves with normal actions including jumping on me and licking. Change up how you approach him, where you look, how you interact and take it down a notch and see what happens.
I will try this thanks
How old is he? Is he neutered? Did you just get him? Vet visit? Not enough info, but in the meantime, I would keep diapers on him. They make washable belly bands for males, and I get the absorbent inserts for my dog. Makes life liveable.
I LOVE my washable belly bands! I fostered to adopt a retired race dog who hadn’t been neutered yet (surgery was scheduled a for a week later though) and being intact, of course everything in my house needed to be made “his.” -_- Belly bands were a lifesaver until I could get him to focus long enough to teach him not to do that
As a side note, diapers and belly bands can increase the risk of UTIs. Less so with male dogs, but it’s still there.
Definitely do not punish any of this or even make disappointed noises. He’s incredibly sensitive and appeasing by the sound of it. I would leave a light drag line on him to minimize the confrontation of have to leash him for now until he becomes more confident.
I agree, this sounds like excitement peeing. We call it happy pee 🤣
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Uti??
That would be my guess
Sounds like a young dog and this is im happy peeing. It will stop fairly quick. Try just walking buy the crate a few times or stand next to it without opening it or acknowledging your dog. Then after it settles down just open the door. They don't want to pee where they live but it's something young dogs do.
Adding because I rescued a dog once that was definitely abused, and he cowered and peed any time I reached to pet him when coming home or leaving. He definitely got beaten for the nervous pees which ALWAYS makes the problem worse, you can’t punish them for it. It helped a lot to stop trying to pet or pick him up, give lots of treats and build trust slowly. When I came home I started just ignoring him and tossing a treat or two until he was calm. He stopped the fear peeing within a few days :)
Could he have some type of bladder issue?
It’s called submissive piddling and the dog does this as it’s nervous of the situation. Avoid eye contact, do not look or speak to the dog nor angle your body towards them. Essentially do not acknowledge them at all until they are in a relaxed state of mind. Then you can pet/interact. It will take months or sometimes even years to fully correct this behavior. [Here](https://www.embracepetinsurance.com/waterbowl/article/submissive-urination) are a few tips.
This. We adopted a dog that had been shot by his previous owners. He had such bad anxiety being confined, so we let him roam free. To get him inside, we'd have to hide behind the door, so he didn't feel trapped. We'd open the door and step away to let him out. Took 3 months before he approached us on his own. Took 6 months before we could even get a collar on him (we have an acre so he didnt need a collar or leash). And it took a year before we could leash him and walk him. We've had him for 4 years now, and he still gets spooked and will pee a little, But when he sees the leash come out, he gets so excited! When he wants something, he comes up and nudges us. And he lays his head on my lap while I'm eating, lays by my bed when I'm sleeping. He doesn't cuddle, but when he wants love, he asks. It takes time, especially with a dog that's been traumatized. If they're food motivated, it helps. Keep small treats around and give them one when they do something good, even if it's just getting up without peeing.
So wonderful your dog gets a second chance to live ❤ thanks for explaining the journey with him too because every dog, with a tramatic past or not, needs time and patience.
So wonderful your dog gets a second chance to live ❤ thanks for giving him a great home & explaining the journey with him too because every dog, with a tramatic past or not, needs time and patience.
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Yes! Both of my dogs were like this. My older one started coming around after a few weeks, was completely fine after a couple months. My younger dog took a lot longer. I basically just tried to exist around them while basically ignoring them and it seemed to work pretty well.
I rescued a dog and she had these exact same challenges. To add onto the above comment, here are a couple of other things: 1) dogs are uncomfortable with eye contact, they just get used to it because they interact with humans. Dogs don’t look other dogs in the eye. This is the number one thing to avoid when dog is in an excited or nervous state. 2) dog should never be left unattended uncrated until the potty issues are under control 3) scolding the dog for this will make the problem worse 4) make it rain with treats when the dog goes outside 5) do not interact with dog until the dog is completely calm and has gone potty outside 6) do not lean over the dog, including petting on top of the head Once you have been practicing these items successfully, the issue should correct itself. And of course check with vet it isn’t another issue. If it’s only happening with men, it’s 99.9% submissive peeing.
It could be excited urination. All of these things are dogs also tend to get excited over.
Yeah, but excitement would occur more in high energy situations. This happens every single time they interact which tends to be submissive urination.
I think submissive is more likely, excited would be a back up reason. Either way the more time OP and the pup have with positive bonding the better.
Our last foster just kinda… leaked whenever he was happy. I’d pick him up straight out of his crate and take him outside and usually caught a couple stray drops. He did it once when he was getting bellies. Almost got me in the face.
My border collie would leak if somebody laughed or smiled whilst interacting with him, fountain wees were also a thing he has peed into too many people's mouths to count, but never whilst covering himself with his tail so we came to doubt the submissive urination theory, sure enough as it became more selective we realised higher excitement = higher probability. He's 5 and still leaks for our dog walker, but I like this because I know it means he loves her and is in good hands when I can't be there for him, she just has to come in through the back door so it is an easy to clean surface 🤣
Your dog can't come in the house because of this issue? That will only make it worse. Being left alone outside feels to a dog like being abandoned by its pack, thus increasing anxiety. Your dog probably feels rejected by you, and in response is losing control of his bladder when you interact with him. At least try a belly band or something before resorting to keeping your dog outside all the time.
This makes sense I will do that instead also just as a small thing he’s not outside he is in the garage and we still do spend alot of time together as the garage is my chill spot but I understand what yu are saying
My neighbors have a 6 month old large breed dog who is turning out to be a handful. I have noticed the dad playing fetch in the front yard with the boys while the dog whines, locked in the backyard. This breaks my heart. I am trying to figure out a way to give this dog more enrichment than this family is. I beg you not to do likewise with your dog. Not saying you are, but that is the image that came to my mind when I read your words.
Can you explain this with more details? The dog lives in the backyard or is it there for just the moment the father plays with his children? Because if it’s the second option there’s nothing wrong with it. There were situations where we all took our kids across the street and left our dog while we were letting our kids ride their bikes and my dog was whining, and she does that when we leave the house which is a normal response.
Is your garage air-conditioned? If not, please be mindful in the summer heat. Dogs are less tolerant of heat than humans.
Like a lot less. A dog will die in a garage that's not temperature regulated. OP, the person I am replying to was very kind. Your dog will drop dead if you cannot control the temperature. This goes for both hot and cold conditions.
If he’s in the garage he’s missing socializing and he will unlikely improve.
Sounds like he actually nervous peeing. If he is a puppy then I would worry too much as puppies can often spot a little from excitement or nervousness because their bladder muscles just aren’t strong enough yet. If it’s an adult dog then you might need to work on some training and possibly look at anti anxiety medication but that last one really depends on weather the training is working.
He is about 1 so still pretty young it’s def nervous / submissive peeing
The general advice is to try whenever possible to ignore them when they are excited until they calm down enough to interact peacefully. They usually outgrow this. It’s fairly common in young dogs. Someone downvoted my last comment but I’ve been training puppies for years using positive only methods and this is the approach we typically recommend
They downvoted but didn’t comment so it’s a whisper in the wind
Do you discipline him when he pees? If so, stop. Dogs don’t understand discipline, it just scares or confuses them. You said in another comment that this dog only does this with you/ which means your dog is scared shitless of you. I am a HUGE proponent of positive reinforcement only training, I’ve raised three puppies in the last 2.5 years. I have three well trained large dogs, who trust me implicitly. They were potty trained within two weeks. I’ve never had to yell at them, let alone anything harsher than that. I highly recommend watching kikopup/ she has a series of puppy training videos. Treat him like he is a brand new dog, and start with the basics. You need to train yourself more than you need to train him.
This. Dogs don't need discipline when they eliminate in the house-they need positive reinforcement when they eliminate where they should. Any number of issues can cause inappropriate elimination (fear, submissiveness, excitement, medical issues) but the last thing you want to do is "punish" them (intentionally or unintentionally) when they have no clue what they did wrong or why you're suddenly angry at them. It will only make the issue worse. Positive reinforcement works.
Yes. When I got my dog she would not pee close to any human because her previous owners disciplined her so much for indoor accidents that she flat out thought it was wrong to go at all. Our first walk was 2h and she didn't pee one time, this resulted in her finding secret spots in the house away from any people once we returned. Thankfully I was able to reverse it after about a month but I'm guessing that's why they got rid of her when it was their fault to begin with.
One thing I want to add is that dogs that submissively pees don’t even realize when they are doing it. My dog pees and then goes inspect her own pee like “Oh did I pee?”. It’s something non intentional. It’s not like they are doing that to make you mad or ruin your house. As much as it is frustrating, I feel bad for them in this situation.
Thank you I will work on this
I noticed this advice not to discipline is critical especially for the instance when you come home/let the dog out of the crate because they can associate this discipline with when you come home or when you let them out of the crate—not with the peeing. If they make mistakes like this right when you come home, it’s better to ignore it so they don’t attach the discipline to the wrong event.
A friend's family had a dog who peed out of excitement her whole life. When I came over, I got the dog really excited when she would come outside to greet us until she peed herself empty. Then she can chill out and get used to the visitors while still being able to go back inside.
We had a dog like this. Everytime she gets excited or scared, she pees. Even just petting her can lead to accidents. We resolved it by being slow & gentle with her, always having a calm voice, and giving her a heads up when we're going to touch her so she won't be surprised. Eventually, the issue just resolved itself? She was confident and had better bladder control. Accidents were rare. Still take her to the vet tho to make sure it's not an underlying health issue.
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My dog is 9 months old & does they when we come home bc of excitement.. so I jut walk thru the door & don’t pay attention to him . I walk out back with him & make a big deal & now he does the peeing outside
For YEARS my one sister could make my dogs pee when she'd come visit... It was her voice because we're all dog people, she thought it was hilarious I hated it because I'd have to clean it up lol
That could be it just something about me I guess sucks he’s my dream dog would love to be personal with him
Change things about how you greet him, could just be simple things that sends em over the top with you, I wouldn't say it's a bad thing it's just annoying to cleanup lol
Yea still a great dog one of the sweatiest ones I’ve had I always tell ppl I was a little on edge getting a bully but he’s perfect other then peeing
My dog use to do this… it’s called submissive/excitement urine. Usually when dogs get over stimulated or are in fear this will happen. It’s hard but completely ignore your dog…. When he greets you with high energy don’t engage at all or give any eye contact. Then when he’s calm and sitting down use positive reinforcement like giving him a treat for just being calm.
Wow finally a decent answer.
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Possibly a kidney problem. In any case, contact the vet.
I have a one year old is pretty much the same with me. What I find works is I let her out of the crate but don't talk to her or make eye contact. It's at least 5 minutes after I let her out that I take her out or put her leash on. I just get her to settle before I interact with her at all really. She'll also pee when someone comes over so I've had my guests ignore her for 5-10 minutes until she gets used to them being around.
Thank you I will try that he get real happy and will jump all over me which is the second thing I would like to address but if I even tell him down and sit he will start spraying the floor all in anticipation so I will try to ignore and fix after
We have the same dog apparently! Mine is a jumper too. Let’s deal with the pee thing first and then the jumping (because who wants to keep cleaning up dog pee all the time)
Exactly I don’t mind the jumping he is a very dense dog and can easily know ppl over so I want to fix that but I rather not have my foot peed on all the time lol
Why don’t you scoop him up out of his crate and take him outside immediately?
My dog did this. It is submissive peeing. He did it when he was excited. Some breeds are prone to this. Cocker spaniels in particular. He's almost two now and has almost entirely grown out of this. Once in a while a tiny oops at meal time. Most dogs grow out of submissive peeing. Edit as I wrote "is" instead of "in". fat fingers
Thank yu
I have a somewhat new rescue that had nervous peeing issues and over time she has basically stopped other than when she is very afraid. One thing that helped me in the beginning was going in for pets with my palm up, under chin, rather than top of head. I don’t know why, but this helped a lot with interaction. If he is also spending a lot of time in the garage, you are likely making this issue worse because he is in away from everyone which makes every single interaction bigger for him since it’s out of the ordinary.
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Happy bladder. Try to stay as neutral as you can in voice and posture. Drop little treats to distract while opening the crate (cheese, bits of hot dog) and try a slip lead if you don't have a fenced yard to let him out into. A quick lasso will be less threatening that hovering and trying to clip the lead. Try not to punish or show frustrations or an uncontrolled response may become a habit. Get a sample of the first pee of the morning and take it, and the pup to the vet. Urinary tract infections can cause incontinence, and some breeds are genetically predisposed to incontinence.
Thank you for this info
I really love the treat distraction. That helped a lot with a new adoption that I had with this issue.
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Please stop leaving your dog alone in the garage. He needs company, socialization, interaction etc. Leaving him alone will heighten anxiety/depression and make the nervous/submission peeing worse, as well as just generally being a not so kind thing to do to the poor dog. He’s afraid and anxious. It’s going to take time. As others have mentioned, don’t interact with him until he calms. Let him out extremely frequently, and when he potties outside praise him and give him treats. Do not scold or punish him.
Thank you I did not think it was a big deal as the garage is my main social environment I also have an older dog who they get along great with that is out there
As long as he can freely come and go wherever you are and has lots of space to move around and gets lots of sunshine and fresh air he is fine. Just don’t ever isolate him somewhere where he can’t get to you (obviously doesn’t apply to you like going to the bathroom or something). I think taking him out very frequently (I currently have a puppy and he goes out to potty every 20-30 minutes), giving him lots of praise, and lots of treats will really help you!
Thank you for all the advice
My rescue was like this. He was afraid of women. I spent a lot of time relationship building, but it was aggravating. I couldn’t even set my fork down on the plate without him freaking out and submissively peeing. I gave him lots of treats, snuggles, one on one time, and he got better after a couple of years. He’s 11 years old now (got him at 2 years) and he’s an independent doggy that loves to be a lap dog. Was worth the effort.
I think your dog is scared of you honestly. He's picking up on your frustration with him for sure. Try a diaper so you can spend more time with him and he can go in the house. I hope he's not sitting in a cage for hours and hours. Sounds like that's how you're treating him.
How old is the dog and what breed if you know? If its a puppy please understand they pee a lot, and they will learn bladder control. Also please dont leave your dog outside. I know cleaning up after a potty training dog isn't fun, but leaving your dog outside doesn't help fix the issue, it just makes it better for you and not the dog, and its anxiety inducing for them (being left outside for long periods of time alone makes them literally and figuratively feel solitary, dogs are social pack animals, so this is not good for them). Also don't rule out a trip to the vet to make sure there isn't something like a UTI or bladder infection going on. Stick with it, it will get better in time ; barring a deformity or birth defect in the urinary system, all dogs can learn to be house trained.
How long are you keeping this dog in the crate exactly? I don’t think the dog is scared of you, I think he’s just not getting enough attention and when you finally let him out he’s so berserk from deprivation. I see this a LOT in crated dogs. Try not using the crate anymore.
You didn’t mention how old? Did you discipline as a puppy for accidents and if so how? If you are the only one he does this with then it’s important to identify what happened then work on moving forward with positive reinforcement to rebuild trust.
I had a dog who did this. It was a little frustrating as I generally don't like my feet being peed on. I realized after trying to "train him out of it" (didn't work) that every time I greeted him I was standing over him. I stopped greeting him when I came home immediately and instead sat down and called him over to me. No pee. I got in the habit of never greeting or petting him until I was seated at his level and lo and behold, it took care of the problem. When he got older and wasn't as nervous, I was able to greet him from any level. Try sitting down (just avoid the pee) to greet him and see if he's interpreting you standing over him as a threat. Note, my dog did not show any fear and in fact was a total wiggle butt when we got home, but would pee every time we bent down to pet him so your dog may not act like he's afraid, but he clearly is if he's peeing.
What kind of dog is he? If he is a peke or chihuahua, they seem to have trouble with peeing. Large dogs do not, as frequently. I would take him to the vet, if you can. You may need to put him on a sedative of some kind, If he gets so excited he can’t control his bladder. Just a thought, but your vet will know more about how to treat him.
Sounds like either there's some sort of physchical health issue or he's really, really anxious.
Mine as a puppy used to pee everytime he saw me because he was just so excited. Thankfully he grew out of that lol
How old is your dog? That’s what I would like to know first.
I rescued a dog about 7 months old, same problem. Out of nowhere, pee. Me Coming home, walking into the house after being outside , just standing in the middle of the living room, pee. (He had been abused.)After he started feeling comfortable he quit. It took a couple of months but he is awesome now and won’t pee in the house for nothing. ***Also, vet check for a urinary tract infection.
OP- first and foremost take the pup to the vet to rule out any additional medical issues. Even if it appears to be behavioral toward you, it could be an indicator of a health problem.
Time for a vet check
It might be the Weewee of Joy, it might be the Weewee of Fear, or it might be the Weewee of a Urinary Tract infection. Please take him to the vet.
Poor guy sounds terrified. First, please go to a vet bc your dog may actually just have a bladder or kidney infection. Once that has been ruled out, work with a R+ dog trainer to help you out! If there’s no infection he’s probably just genuinely very scared and that breaks my heart. The trainer is more for *you* than the dog so please have an open mind. It’s probably your body language/eye contact/tone of voice etc. Vet first to check for a bladder/kidney infection then a positive reinforcement (R+) dog trainer to help w the fear. Good luck OP and please don’t be mad at your dog!!
Research submissive urination. Mine was like that, too, and we had to use alllll the tricks. That, age, and extra trainin (he has a tricks title and does agility non-competitively) gave him the confidence to exist in the human world.
What breed and age? There are some more prone to this. I’d invest in training to build his confidence. Sometimes it’s just a question of time and maturity.
Use a cloth washable dog diaper on him.
To be honest if you’re going to keep your dog outside because you aren’t willing to clean after it, you shouldn’t have a dog.
He's excited to see you and be with you... please don't punish him for this.
Submissive urination...get a dog behavioral trainer.
This dog is suffering, poor thing. You need to take your dog to the vet to get an all clear on medical. Get a referral from your vet for a vet behaviorist or a certified canine behavior consultant to work on relationship building with you and your dog.
Suffering is extreme but I see what yur saying
Suffering is extreme. I think distracting with treats will ease the 'suffering'.
How old is he? It seems like some anxious or fear problem. To help you I need to know a little more about him... Is he a rescue dog? puppy? Since whe does he live with you? When that behavior started? Does he has any disease?
My last boss used to bring her dogs into the office. One of them would pee anytime someone other than the owners gave her attention. It didn’t seem like fear, definitely more excited.
Yea I don’t think he fears me more like he’s super excited for my interaction after he pees he does put on the sad face cuz he knows he peed in the house I don’t punish him for it
I get it. It's a complement, but it's a really annoying & inconvenient complement! Hopefully he grows out of it. Enjoy your new pup!
Sounds like submissive behavior. Do you know his history?
My male dog used to do this too. Once he was neutered it stopped.
My dog had submissive urination. He would pee when he got excited. The solution was not engage him when I opened his crate, when I came home, when people came over. I was affectionate but I didn’t get excited and fuss. He has since outgrown it.
Have you taken to the vet to make sure it's not a UTI?
I'd consider taking him to the vet to see if he has health issues
Has he been checked by the vet for medical problems?
How do you train/discipline the dog?
He likes attention so I don’t use treat to train him if he does anything wrong I usually send him to bed for a time out the release and try again
Is your dog a rescue dog? My cousins had a rescue dog what was TERRIFIED of me. Turns out the dog had come from an abusive home and we think the abuser looked like me. Try having someone else (if you can) be the one to handle pee time and then just sit and read or something where the dog can see you and learn to just be around you. Have treats for them coming near you. Let them start to associate you will something good.
I purchased him from someone that was walking him at the park when I was with my kids they seemed very caring for him and only wanted a bigger place for him since they had a one bedroom that being said I have no way of knowing
He’s terrified of you. Are you aggressive with him?
This is sad to hear I try not to be aggressive towards him as I don’t want him to be aggressive back to others as I have 3 about to be 4 little children that adore him
He needs to be taken to the vet
Ok thanks
He is afraid and now it’s a feedback loop because I’m guessing you or someone else has scolded him for peeing. Dogs pee like this to show submission and when they’ve been scolded for literally doing everything in their power to say to you “you’re the boss” they get seriously perturbed. You can never scold or negatively react to your dog peeing submissively like this when they’re this sensitive! Every time he cowers, you lay down, get on your back, and coax him. Have treats every time you greet him and do this. My dog did the same thing until I learned to ignore the peeing. It was frustrating of course but I’d get home > he’d greet me and pee in the kitchen > cower away from me now that he’s peed and thinks he’s done even more wrong > I’d have treats and lay down away from him on my back until he came and ate them all > take him outside and give him a treat if/when he pees outside > clean up mess. Only had to do this for about a week and he stopped peeing when I got home!
Good advice thank you
My dog wasn't like this, so much, but he had many accidents until I got him neutered, and then no incontinence. Don't know if this would apply to your situation.
I would like to not do this but a lot of people have recommended bringing him to the vet for this so I will talk to them about it
I know. I fought it for years. My wife wanted me to but I didn’t. Finally broke down and did it. He was probably 3 or 4. Seriously. Instantly resolved. Now my boy is 14 and unfortunately just began having issues with it because of old age.
Yes I will think about it and see wat the vet thinks I would love to just get 1 puppy from him so my kids can carry the dogs bloodline I think it would be real interesting to be old and see my dogs great grandson playing with my grandson
What are your family members doing differently than you? Why does he only do it when you're around?
My other family members don’t actively interact with him the will pet him play with him at his request but I’m the only one that really seeks him out.. some ppl have told me that he may be scared of me which is hard to hear after he pees a def see him being ashamed and more shy but I don’t really punish him since he’s in the garage or outside but I can say I don’t have a verbal reaction sometimes that may scare him … mostly he pees and yu can tell he feels bad for the accident so I don’t add to it
Sounds like he might be excited, some male dogs do this very thing out of excitement but, normally with **EVERYONE**
Yea I’m really the only one that interacts with him during this excited state everyone else deals with him after he calms down we have a lot of 1 on 1 time nobody else really seems him out but play with him as he comes to them
I’d say it’s more of an excitement thing but for sure have him checked out by a vet
Will do thank you
How often is your dog alone during the day? Where does he sleep? If it were me, I would get a belly band for him for inside the house. Then, I would keep him next to you at all times, no matter what you’re doing, so he gets used to being around you and it’s not crazy excitement when you interact.
My dog submissively pees all the time, it was the main part of our memories with her in the first year. I felt like I couldn’t interact with her otherwise she’d pee, it was very frustrating. Any emotion that she had shed pee so I did research and realized that if I ignore her behavior, it would eventually stop. In the first year every time she peed it would cause a negative reaction in every body, we would say “Don’t pee! Go outside!” We would really express frustration and then we just started ignoring and she stopped. I don’t greet her, don’t make eye contact. If I want to bond with her I take her outside to play. As she gets older, this starts going away. Eye contact can be very intimidating for dogs, you make it with the wrong dog and it can even bite you. Luckily your dog just pees. Building confidence is also important, if you train her new tricks and reward with treats, redirect all the attention from the peeing to other things it could also help. Always make sure you ignore the pee because they become self conscious about it. Keeping your dog outside may increase their insecurity. They may feel unsure if they will pee again and then pee as a response.
I had a dog like this growing up. She grew out of it eventually but it definitely sucked while it was happening. I think she was nervous. Her life before us could have been stressful
Your dog is afraid of you. This is an owner problem not a dog problem
I’ve heard this a lot hard to swallow and still kinda hard to believe but ig it’s just something I have to work on
It's probably an anxiety reaction. If they are not cowering, it could be excited peeing. My dog is 3 and started to get better when he was about 1, but sometimes still does it. Has your dog been anxious since they were a puppy? It is not necessarily a fear reaction. You may need to ignore them when you first see them. Open the crate, don't act excited, let them outside, bring them in, act calmly towards them. Let them have time to settle before you approach them with pets and attention.
He’s afraid. You can’t let him in the house? That is no way to treat a dog.
Not one, but two dogs in the garage. They shouldn’t be allowed to own any since this is a pattern of neglect and leaving their dogs in the garage all day and night.
My brother’s dog used to have a ton of accidents in the house. Found out she’s allergic to tap water and had a ton of bladder and kidney stones developed because of it. It started gradually and got worse over time.
Check him for diabetes
Vet visit to rule out health problems and ask about anxiety meds which can help take the edge off enough he can learn what is safe & absorb training. Also you can’t leave your dog alone outside the house, even in the garage. Figure out a way to have him inside. An x-pen layered with pee pads is a good place to start. Never yell, complain, punish or correct for peeing when you don’t want him to, only praise for when he goes how you want.
I would do a vet appointment to check for a bladder infection and if nothing there try a male dog diaper it wraps are the belly wiener area and prevents the dribbles from getting all over the house buy a couple and you’ll be dribble free
I agree with talking to the vet, and maybe they can refer you to a behavior therapist. my dog didn't have this issue but was a rescue and had some other problems. behaviorist helped a lot. and then good quality formal obedience training. i know it doesn't seem like that correlates, but I've found obedience training to be helpful with many things. it strengthened my relationship with my dog and improved his behavior in general. we did beginner (twice) and then intermediate A&B. it's a commitment for sure, but the long-term benefits are tremendous. Also, anxiety could be a concern. some dogs are just anxious by nature. my dog ended up on a little prozac which made a world of difference along with the training. not saying your dog needs that, but just something else to think about in case it is anxiety related. my only other thoughts are make sure dog is exercised enough daily and not locked in a crate for too long during a 24 hr period. and every time the dog pees in the house, don't say anything, just take the dog outside. and every time dog pees outside, give him a tiny treat or 2 and make a big party out of it until behavior is corrected. if dog is just excited to see you, ignore until calm. (ignore bad behavior, reward good). doing some focus training might help a lot here. it might become more time intensive than you'd like, but a lot of time now means less time in the long-run. good luck, OP. let's hope it's something easily trainable once you find the root cause.
Where do you live that it’s ok for your dog to not come in with the hot weather?
I have a 12 year old chihuahua and for YEARS she did this until I finally realized its the high pitched voice I used to talk to her. I stopped, she stopped.
Maybe a UTI maybe nerves. The poor thing. And u as well. It sounds medical or mental health issue
My dog did that too when he was little. The first time he actually saw me, he peed on my shoe (that’s how I knew I’m taking him home). He grew out of it eventually, the more time we spent together
I had a dog that did this whenever anyone came into the house. We affectionately dubbed her “the urinator”. She eventually stopped except when my husband petted her. Still always peed when a man talked to her or touched her. Maybe, move slowly, only very small hand movements, zero eye contact…
My friend had a dog that peed when anyone would talk sweet to her and pet her.
Does he seem nervous, or excited? I had a dog who would pee every time she saw one of my friends because she loved him so much and got excited when he came over. She stopped once she was spayed, idk if they're connected or if it was just that once she was old enough to be spayed she "outgrew" the peeing thing. You'd probably be best to go to the vet, in case your pup has some sort of urinary condition that needs treatment. If not that, he may be scared, or just super excited to see you. Is he wiggling around and jumping, or tucking his tail and freezing up? Body language can tell you a lot.
Mine did this when she had bladder stones. Once removed and placed on a prescription diet, it went away (unless she was really excited).
My dog had a leaky bladder due to bladder stones. Have your vet xray to check for them. After her surgery this problem went away.
I see a lot of comments blaming and shaming OP because some believe that the dog may be urinating due to fear. I personally didn't have enough details from OP's initial post, but I see OP thanking others for their suggestions, which leads me to think that it's possible that OP is not abusing his/their dog. Could we try to have more compassion for someone who is asking for help? Whether or not OP made mistakes or the dog has a health issues or it's some other reason for the uncontrolled urinating, I'm reading OP's comments of "Thank you; I'll try that."
I'd want a vet clearance on this before considering it a training issue he may not have control of his bladder or some other issue.
It will probably take a lot of patience and time. I saw another comment about not making eye contact and I think that’s the way to go. Don’t acknowledge the dog whatsoever until it calms down then you can try petting. If he pees wait longer next time. Don’t react to the peeing in anyway. If you ever interact and he doesn’t pee then make sure you give a treat.
Sounds like your dog is inbred. Had a dog like this once and the only way it could come in the house was to wear a diaper. This doesn't get better with age infact it gets worse. For us it became a quality vs quantity . If you go the diaper route then put Vaseline around the area that will get wet and watch out for friction burns wear the diaper rubs again the skin . Everytime you change the diaper clean the area just like you would a baby and Vaseline and cornstarch the area.
As a dog groomer, I am always sad for the parents of the pee dogs. Sometimes it’s accidental, but most of the time it’s intentional. They want to be in charge. I’m so sorry!!
Your dog is a submissive pee-er. It's almost impossible to stop. Sometimes they grow out of it, but mine didn't. He peed every time anyone touched him, played with him, put the leash on, etc. He started getting depressed cause he hardly got pets or cuddles. It was awful. I tried everything. Training. Diapers. Nothing worked. I ended up re-homing him to a couple that was used to dogs with pee problems and they didn't care if the dog peed all of the time.
Consider having him checked for prostate issues. Our dog was intact but a lot of times having testicles but never using them causes prostate swelling. The swelling presses on the urethra and makes it so the dog can’t empty his bladder all at once like he’s supposed to. If the pee doesn’t come out in a single stream but instead randomly spurts, you’ve got yourself a dog with urethra issues, potentially for the aforementioned reasons. A neuter operation fixed our dogs problems. Use it or lose it, boys!
Could be he pees bc he sees you as dominant and it’s a submissive reaction. My dog pees when he’s nervous or excited. We’ve seen the vet and they said he has no bladder issues. They suggested not touching him (since it only happens when we pet him when he’s excited/nervous) until he’s calmed down. It works. Definitely go see the vet to determine if it’s a bladder issue bc it very well could be. - they also may be able to prescribe some anti anxiety medications as that was the next resort with our little guy if avoiding contact when he’s excited didn’t work.
Pick him up and take him out as soon he gets out the crate then give him a treat when he pees
My dog was like this; he would get so excited when I put his harness on to go outside that he would pee everytime, I had to put on his harness over a pee pad and then bring him out even though he had pretty much emptied himself already. He eventually got better with time, I believe he just had a harder time controlling his bladder. It probably lasted until he was a year and a half and gradually got better, I believe I started putting on his harness outside at some point
Your dog seems like it’s an incredibly anxious pup and also afraid of you based on some of your replies here. Like others have said already, changing your body language and voice tone will probably help a lot. Good luck to you both!!
my dog of 9 years still does this and idk how to train him to not do it 😭 my family and i speak as quietly and kindly as possible to him but the moment he sees us, he pees, whenever we touch him, he pees, etc...
My dog stopped submissive peeing when I bent down to his level. If I would call him over from across the yard I would crouch down as he was making his way to me. Give pets/treats when he responds. Crouch down and then open the crate door and give a pet/smooch on his way out. Etc. Sometimes the height difference can be intimidating. Don’t stand over him and holler, give some space and try using hand signals for basic commands like sit and down
I would also learn to do clicker training using “capturing” as the primary method as opposed to luring with treats. Do something meaningless like shaping to get into a cardboard box. https://youtu.be/xZSnitaj5pg?si=zdRnLQA4EBDIefi3 This is just one video of many I’m sure. I find free shaping to be confidence building as the dog is in the driver seat and not dealing with the emotionality of trainer expectations with luring (which includes hovering over the dog, distracting and provoking anxiety in the subject as we try to get the dog to do stuff).
How old is this dog? What breed? Is he neutered?
So my dog pees when she is excited, but it gets worse if I feed her dry kibble as she drinks a ton of water. Try adding some fiber and non dry stuff to his food. Or soak the kibble as it won’t make him so thirsty he will drink a ton of water and more likely pee. Green beans, yogurt, eggs, fat trimmings unseasoned, fruits and veggies, oatmeal, rice, etc. Also check if he has a uti or bladder infection.
He sounds like he's scared of you.
Has he been neutered? Hormones can make that worse. If it’s a smaller dog, it is not as uncommon. Regardless, you should let the vet know about it, as infections or anatomical issues can also cause more pee problems or worse infections.
I'm a big aggressive dude, with a little itty bitty chihuahua. I've had to learn to talk softer, not be as quick with my movements, when I go to pet him I place my hand down by him palm up so he understands I'm not trying to hurt him. It's been a process for both of us, but is now to the point I can jump him and play with him without him being scared of me.
You’re scaring the piss out of him. Take all of you down about 5 notches and just BE with this dog. You or someone has been too much for his delicate sensibilities. Please reset, quiet down, and start again.
I think your energy is making him nervous. Maybe he has a birth defect or an infection? Is he fixed, is it possible something was damaged? I have a pomeranian, who marks everything in and out of the house. I tried everything to attempt to discourage his habit. As frustrating and inconvenient as that was I would never get rid of him. I don't have the heart to break my dogs heart and spirit for something that he obviously can't stop doing. Something in his brain made him feel the need to pee on stuff. So I solved it by putting diapers on him. He wears it from the moment he's off my bed. My bed is high and he won't jump off the bed. My boy is used to the routine. I put his diaper on and off he goes to the back yard. The diaper is around his waist and just covers his penis. I change him maybe twice a day. He sleeps without one because he sleeps in my bed. Now, that solved any peeing issues. Doggy diapers can get expensive, especially if this is what will be for years to come. After trial and error I have the perfect solution. I buy baby diapers and I use the 1 inch wide green or orange painters tape, to hold the diaper around his waist. I only open diaper, I do not unfold it because it was struggle to try to keep it on . I only use a strip of about 6 or 8 inches of tape, to hold it loosely in place . I make sure it's not tight on him, that'd be dangerous and uncomfortable. My dog enjoys the house, no pee spots anywhere!! I hope you don't give up on your little guy. Your dog loves you, more than he loves himself.
Some crucial info missing in the OP - like age of your dog and when this problem started. Had to dig through your comments
My dog always did excitement peeing until he was around 8. There isn't a lot you can do honestly
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I would suggest taking him to the vet because that doesn’t sound normal whatsoever
When you greet, “ignore” in a sense until they’ve calmed down then allow them to “calmly”come to you.
I never crate or leash my dog. She goes to work with me, comes home after work. Such an angel.
Very helpful comment
you can use a belly band to help as well as change up how you interact with him, belly bands are essentially diapers for male dogs but they can help with submissive peeing and marking because typically if they wet themselves and realize it doesn't feel good (before anyone claims this I'm not suggesting to leave it on him to teach him a lesson) and it can help them realize they don't need to urinate to get their feelings across, and as a pro you can have pup in the house without worrying he'll pee everywhere, of course check the band often and change when wet :)
Something must be wrong with him! Poor pooch. Has he been to the vet?
He could have a bladder/kidney infection. One should always rule out biological causes before one ventures to remedy behavioral causes. That being said, a behavior can stem from something that originated from a biological drive, but became learned. More likely, I think he is frightened by how frustrated and angry you are at this point. Peeing is a submissive act.
Your dog could have a bladder infection and the excitement of seeing you could be getting them so excited they can't hold it. Yes even if this is only happening with just you. I will be very blunt here because I think it is important. If you are unwilling to bring your dog to the vet to get checked out you should not have a dog and should rehome them. I am not saying this is the case I am just putting that out there. It may also be that your dog needs more quality walks. Dogs do not just go out and pee real quick. Their walks are a way of marking territory and examining threats and creatures of interest through their scents. Dogs are very strategic about where they go to the bathroom all the way up till where they can not hold it anymore. So they need plenty of time to explore with their nose during their walks so they can properly fully relieve themselves and it make be in several different spots.
Rule out a medical reason. Get a belly band and work on building a trusting relationship. It will be easier for you if you don't have to deal with the pee all the time.
What you’re describing sounds like submissive wetting. Is he a rescue? There’s every chance that this behavior may be trauma related. Consulting your vet about anti anxiety medication/incontinence medication would probably be the best course of action.
What kind of dog is he?
Get a belly band while you train him.
Google submissive urination
Sounds like submissive/anxious urination. Leaving him outside is most likely making it worse. First, get with a vet. Rule out any potential medical issues like incontinence, infections, etc. Also talk to them about anxiety and get their thoughts on that. Some dogs thrive with simple training, some need intense training and medication. It just depends on the individual dog. Once they’re medically cleared, trying adjusting your body language and work on confidence building. It will take time for both of you to get the hang of it.
So are you leaving the dog outside then? That will just increase anxiety. Trying to understand the post.
is this really the life you want
My five and a half month old puppy pees a LOT from excitement. The vet said that he should grow out of it.
My dog does this too -- but to a lesser extent. He's been impossible to train (common with his breed), and we've had to resort to disposable belly bands (like diapers for male dogs). We tried the washable fabric ones first, and they were terrible. They leaked and caused terrible rashes on his lil' weenie, even with multiple changes a day and keeping him clean as best I could. Eventually, I tried some disposable ones off Amazon that have been life changing. They keep him very dry and rarely ever leak. No rashes, either! :-) I still take him outside for real potty breaks and remove his diaper/belly band to allow things to breathe during that time; but when he's in the house, the belly band stays on! The floors stay much cleaner this way. The brand I use is called Honeycare, found on Amazon. They're listed as "all-absorb disposable male wraps". Hope this helps -- good luck!
My dog did this and I just don't look at him and when I call him I let him come to me I don't pick him up or go for him and it's helped he's much better but still has his moments