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abdullahkhalids

Nigma successfully went high ground in game 2, with exactly even networth. No farming the map till you are 30k ahead. Inventing metas here.


AR41Z

that was so scary to watch lmao


JadeSerpant

That's actually such a hilariously Nigma thing. Even at their lowest they sometimes just pull out these clutch and very decisive plays that remind you of TI7 Liquid.


maven-blood

That's also what the present Liquid should learn. The Liquid right now gets ahead and has like 30k + networth still not trying to hg push. The analysts have also mentioned it's one of the reasons why they've been losing.


Ok_World1031

Hijacking this comment to mention game 1 was full of Taiga levels of suspicious paid activity from both Antares and Kiritych and deserves some level of investigation. Game 1 minute (3:01) Antares with no creep wave walking in to feed Miracle and Kuro. Game 1 minute (20:30) Kiritych picking a fight by himself against all of Nigma behind Tier2. The only teammates he had in the vicinity were Ench and TA with obviously no means to back him up, but yeah just walk up to Fbz and Gh and of course every tp from Nigma. Game 1 (33:33) Follow along with Kiritych for 20seconds. Cherry on top his choice to tp to where he did instead of fountain secures his death. By this point I'm pretty sure Trent and Lyrical were catching on to something.


-Exy-

Hijacking this comment to say this guy is mad because salty bettor


PhMcBrett

right?


greekcel_25

After what taiga did I think that viewers should have every right to suspect players. Still innocent until proven guilty, and theres really no pattern of behavior from VP but the mafia really has its filthy paws deeply on this game. Taiga shows you its not too hard to subtlety 322 pro dota games.


Ok_World1031

I didn't know we couldn't call out suspicious activity but apparently we can't if it involves the Nigma mob. Doubt half the people here have even watched these games yet.


-Exy-

No it's just a baseless accusation which is completely unfounded without any actual evidence which is just slanderous at worst and extremely speculative at best.


Ok_World1031

I see. Kinda like when someone gets accused of being a salty bettor without any evidence which is completely unfounded without any actual evidence which is just slanderous at worst and extremely speculative at best?


Ok_World1031

Okay... If you say so


OnyxGow

Out of loop can someone explain Is this a 322 situation?


-Exy-

No.


ritzey1

What's the matter cutie you lost your bet?


Crikyy

The freshness and confidence in Nigma's drafts. They lane and play together so well too. It's only day 1 but I hope this marks their return to form.


smoothieeeee12

Yup , hope so.


realtomedamnit

Kuro has been saving strats all these years for this particular patch


luckytaurus

It was the long con how could we not have seen it coming - pretending to be shit for years so that top tier teams underestimate you and stop analyzing your strategies to get ahead of the meta. Wp Kuro


IronTwinn

Nah, how do people never learn. This is how Nigma baits us into thinking they're back filling us with Hopium to inevitably disappoint us again. Happens every year ^/s?


fanfanye

New fresh patches will always be a great time for genius drafters


AceJokerZ

Sumail’s heroes got buffed. We’re so back.


UlyssesII

Which ones other than storm?


LETSGETSCHWIFTY

Tiny


LETSGETSCHWIFTY

Lesh


Whatnowgloryhunters

Invo?


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Nab0t

I mean there were weird moves from watson


pepthebaldfraud

Watson has been consistently quite bad for how much mmr he has, kinda strange but also funny at the same time. Guess his pub mentality doesn’t translate when teamwork actually matters


M474D0R

I think trying to keep rank 1 actively hurts him, he plays to rankmaxx not to try new stuff and get better like most other pros. Just my opinion as a viewer of course.


SwaZiiiiiii

even in his pubs he’s still meh. i like to call it the abed effect


slifer3

wat do u mean by abed effect?


onebraincellperson

winning pubs, having high rank but choking in competitive games


Equivalent-Money8202

then how does he win?


greekcel_25

Even at 14k mmr is just a number ¯\\\_ (ツ)\_/¯


Vhrb

It's very soon to say that they are back but it was a very impressive performance...even more against Entity. Miracle- show was on point


smoothieeeee12

Yeah , im just exited as fan.


justhexorus

Excited you mean?


smoothieeeee12

Yup mb. Im still here.


vishal340

no he exited


andy_bovice

NIGMAAAAAA


Imperium42069

that game 1 against VP was quite bad


smoothieeeee12

Miracle Pudge owns.


JellyGrimm

I really want Nigma to be back, the guys were so good for the scene back then


LaoShanLung

They were lending players in order to steal tech from other teams


Gameboysixty9

Yeah after stealing Bulbas strats Nigma is finally back!!!!


LaoShanLung

Two baldies think alike!


zuKo2022

that sherlock rank 2 is fking kuro smurf no one can tell me otherwise genius drafts genius plays by all of them BATCHESTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


Bassre2

Sorry but who is that sherlock guy? I just looked at the leaderboard and I don't see any rank 2 with that name


zuKo2022

he was matchmaking abuser , abused it all the way to rank 2, probably got banned now


Caveskelton

Even matchermaking abuser can't get higher mmr than egoisto


axecalibur

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1d1da5r/sherlock_in_dota_2/ So hes running bots matches on a smurf account? why wouldnt he use his main?


zuKo2022

are u asking about sherlock guy or kuro? cause i made a joke about kuro , cause everyone with a working brain cell knows that guy isnt kuro and about sherlock, he is probably doing this for the luls . Cant do on main cause it will get banned. he is literally doing this for the lols


Thenevitable

What's a brain


Thenevitable

What's a brain


Thenevitable

What's a brain


axecalibur

His brain is so big.


euweny

the thinker


IronTwinn

Mods should make this a feature where anytime a guy with an Ogre flair comments, his comment gets multicasted


DoctorWhoops

In a way makes sense. Very experienced players with wide hero pools that have seen a lot of patches come and go. Adapting to new patches probably suits them relatively well.


numenik

Good point. Especially since they’ve seen a shit ton of different metas and really know the strengths of each hero even the forgotten ones


DotaPlayeris

Kuroky was right; we were all left


PhMcBrett

#NIGMA IS SO BACK!!!!


idkthiss

Kuro is just too good. Kuro show 1v9.


Nisha_goat

i really want to know what kind of shit secret was smoking when they let go of fbz and took boom, fbz is miles better and i'm not saying that just because of these results, he looked very solid on secret too


User85394

Visa issue probably. And he laned with yamich? Probably language barrier as well. Although he did lane with tims in the past. I believe he never tank any interview for nigma so far as well. Although, admittedly nigma havent had many winner interviews xd


AR41Z

yapzor also said that Nigma should be happy that they got FBZ tier player given their current status


tha_jza

yea i really liked the crystallis armel fbz yamich lineup, damn shame they couldn’t stick it out


smoothieeeee12

Good question


We-live-in-a-society

I really hope they keep giving Sumail decent heroes. His tiny and storm are literally some of his best and if he keeps getting reps on his pool, he will keep doing Sumail things. The game with the DK was huge from him tho, that weaver game was already so hard and Sumail cleaned up after some lackluster performances by the hero earlier on.


TheDeadlyEdgelord

Back or not, these games are way more fun to watch than Falcon snoozefest.


Earth92

Watching one team dominate and being too good for the competition, makes it boring, but then again, nobody should be sorry for being too good for the competition, it's others have to step up.


rustyboy1992

How are Falcons games snoozefest? They run at you, they have superb spellcasting and teamwork. They even dive T2s T3s T4s and fountain, heck even take enemy Pitlord's portal. And when they are behind, they take risky plays and also win games that looked so unwinnable. Idk what you're on about bro.


moxaj

fucking ammar almost killed himself there with the portal to enemy base :D


smoothieeeee12

For sure.


[deleted]

Gh coming back has been a real difference. Those willow ults were on point and saved the day in what could've been a disaster class from Miracle & Sumail getting caught.


timetostayuseless

actually 1st series vs VP was scary and had so many sloppy plays, VP threw game 1 when they had the first aegis... BUT IDC give me that goddamn hopium WE'RE BACK


[deleted]

It was almost a typical Miracle BatChest game. Get farmed, get overly confident, get caught, despair. But managed to win that game 1.


LaoShanLung

Nigma is the new Na'vi


__calypso

What did I miss now


Tomsider

Nigma is winning in the Fissure Universe tournament


numenik

I’m hoping for an OG vs Nigma finals, doesn’t get more hype than that


Tomsider

True


smoothieeeee12

Possible. But lets wait and see how they will perform tomorow.


Heul_Darian

Where can you see this live? or is it over?


justsightseeing

There's youtube stream but today games are already ended.  Its a very short tournament; GSL group stage with only top 2 of each group (total 4 team) going for double elim playoff. Nigma games for group stage are already done since they got 2 win, they will play again at 29th May. GSL still on progress 


SiMless

[Here is the twitch channel](https://www.twitch.tv/fissure_dota_eng)


needhelforpsu

Only 1/3 of tour is done, Nigma's next series are in playoffs. Check Liquipedia's FISSURE Universe tour page - there you have schedule and all relevant info!


Psyweaver

nigma balls


Dregon

What tournament? Can't find it on Liquipedia (via the app)


Dregon

Found it, just the app being broken.


deltalessthanzero

What tournament was it? I can't find it either. Edit: probably this https://liquipedia.net/dota2/FISSURE_Universe/2


hanamurasak1

#weback #wewantfalcon #starsalign #roadtoriyadh #roadtoti


SiMless

Just in time for TI Qualifier! I'm excited to see how well they will do in the playoffs


smoothieeeee12

Yes. Let's see. Yesterday the team had the synergy.


Few_Ad7124

So MC the problem?


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

Is Miracle playing?


smoothieeeee12

Yes.


Hanswurst_dKdrA

so all the haters left the fanpages and the real Fans stayed. wp Guy :D


rhoki-bg

Nigma balls, hehe


ptoziz

Kuro haters in shambles!


RepostFrom4chan

Where were the games streamed? I'll check it out.


smoothieeeee12

Ive watched it in twitch live. So you can watch it there. Fissure


RepostFrom4chan

Yes, what stream my guy. I heard there's more than 1 on that site.


smoothieeeee12

Fissure english.


Invisible-Bones9480

fr is it so hard to give a link


EvertB123

I watched it in game cuz I don't like twitch


fernandatroublesome

The way Miracle plays, especially with Weaver. His positioning is really scary, he is on another level. A different caliber indeed... and oh btw, adding GH again to the team after rest feels like something has evolved.


EvertB123

Miracle on the TA was amazing to watch aswell


extine

Let's go boys!!


blazezero25

lfg


konaharuhi

GUYS BatChest


omimon

For a second there I thought OP meant Nigma from DOTA Digest.


The_Lost_Soul-

Good job divine kuro! Hoping for the same result on day 2!


Kyouchan02

We barackkkkkk


Beemeowmeow

Kick Kuro and they might legit stand a chance for real


SnappleJuiceDeepKiss

What have I missed omg


Secret-Interview-941

Glad to see I'm not the only disillusioned one. We are so back bros


smoothieeeee12

Nigma vs BOOM/ MOUZ and OG vs Entity.


mitharas

Well, DM died farming ancients. Didn't look like their A game.


rektogre1280

Maybe the secret is that they've become a full Muslim team so their synergy is at its best? Miracle, Sumail, FBZ, GH, Kuroky. All of them are Muslim. Back then, they at least had one non-Muslim player like MC, rmN- in the team. Jk tho. Lmao Edit. Well, I didn't know GH is Christian.


BrotherDune

GH is maronite Christian from lebanon


rektogre1280

My bad. Didn't know GH is Christian. Haha


idkthiss

GH is Christian.


rektogre1280

My bad. Didn't know GH is Christian. Haha


bigbaduwuowo

You are missing the L


teerre

They are literally copying Falcons draft lol


bigbaduwuowo

Back to trash lul


smoothieeeee12

Nope , they are lower bracket.


betadestruction

Nigma has always centered around miracle Miracle hasn't been in form for a long long time. This is the best he's looked for a while. People blame kuro, but the biggest issue is Miracle playing at 50% of his potential for years.


warriors_of_hope

What? Miracle took a 1 year break. AMMAR, Yuma, Mikey iteration was still garbage. Kuro was the common denominator. 


Balastrang

let that man blame mracle he wants to so he made up a reason lol


fucktechies

Shout out to all my muhfukkin nigmaz!! Nigmaz with attitude! Nigmaz in Paris!!! Hell yeah


SdoRy_

Oh my these comments are delusional lmao


RomanAbbasid

> shopify flair the jokes write themselves nah but fr let nigma fans have their moment. poor bastards have suffered for long enough


SdoRy_

No no, I'm aware SR is absolutely horrible atm and that even after beating Liquid 2:0 or Falcons almost 2:0 I'm not running around screaming "SR IS SO BACK" "RTZ BACK TO PRIME THEY'RE SUCH A SCARY TEAM Y'ALL" I love seeing Nigma win, specifically because of Sumail and Kuro. Many of these comments are still delusional though. But you'll see, couple weeks from now everything will be back to the status quo and nobody is gonna remember this.


EvertB123

I'm just happy to see Nigma playing well what is delusional about that


zuKo2022

salty?


SdoRy_

Hm? For what? I'm happy Nigma won some games, I'm a big Sumail fan and would love nothing more than Kuro to prove all these 2k mmr redditors wrong, but you people pretending like they're suddenly a top team again only sets yourself up for disappointment. They won 2 decent series against mediocre teams during one day in a tier 2 tournament. You're acting like they just beat Spirit in a bo5 final with all this glazing; "inventing the meta" "scary team" "back to beating top tier teams" "genius plays by all of them" are only a few of the delusional takes here. Overall they still looked sloppy and would've lost at least the VP series against literally any tier 1 team.


zuKo2022

bro when it comes to nigma people are exaggerating for fun for like 3 years now its called playing into the joke my man


hardworkalvvays

That's not what's happening, no need to get salty


zuKo2022

lol yeah sure . its funny cause i wrote one of the top comments and you are telling me i m not joking? xd


hardworkalvvays

your comment is 7th lol, behind multiple that are clearly serious and some that are much better jokes than yours. and no i didn't tell you that you aren't joking. just read the comment you replied to lmao you don't need to get mad about it bro just breathe