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heytheretylerr

Beerus, Whis and all angels


InevitableVariables

Freeza black and arale Goku isn't even the strongest mortal in his own universe.


Timofey7331

Freeza Black sounds like Zamasu decided to steal Frieza's body instead of Goku's


YoutuberCameronBallZ

Black Frieza Black


TitanicTNT

Black Frieza Black but actually Black.


Lazymcdelta4ce

Black black Frieza black


Infamous_Payment_976

Black freeza strikes black


Infamous_Payment_976

Strikes back*


Lazymcdelta4ce

Back frieza strikes black


Jackryder16l

He dissed the race car bed too much.


itisallgoodyouknow

Nigga Frieza


yobaby123

Lol.


ClearDark19

Fax. Shout-out to Gas as well. Goku never beat Gas. Gas got back up again after Goku injured him the last time. Gas kept getting Zenkai boosts every time Goku or Vegeta hurt him, at the expense of his body growing older and becoming more zombie-like (burning his cells like fuel, to use Gas's own words). Black Frieza had to kill Gas. Plus whoever is going to beat up Goku before or after Black Frieza*. Whether that's Android 21, Cooler, Towa & Mira, Demigra, Bojack, whoever, etc. Someone else other than Black Frieza will either surpass Goku or will find a way to nerf him so they can be above him. *There is no confirmation that Black Frieza will directly be the villain of the next saga, or even a big bad. A lot of fans are just wildly speculating, likely incorrectly. Unlike DBZ or DBGT, DBS likes setting up plot threads multiple sagas before they pay off, and it likes red herrings to misdirect fan speculation.


DarkUser521

Yet..


InevitableVariables

He's not surpassing Whis. Oracle fish second prophecy that goku and vegeta would rival beerus. Still hasn't happened. No prophecy on Whis.


supervegito63

Angels can not fight Goku.. but Frieza and Beerus are a good pick


The_Scroast

Chichi


Eeddeen42

Chichi solos


CappyWomack

Isn't the point for it to be a solo fight?


Mr_Blueeeeee8

Its not even close too


Vilxen0

Theres plenty of characters in the exact same series who could defeat Goku, and more to come in a future saga, bro is high lmao


Dio_Brando18

https://preview.redd.it/39ol4sorv9qb1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51ab5516c0565ff8f6ce1292515fcef9dd9325a5 Heck, here is another character that neg diffs Goku.


Linkatron2000

I think the only thing that would be competing would be their powers of friendship and appetite


Dio_Brando18

Seriously dude, in an actual fight Goku gets mauled.


Linkatron2000

I know, I'm just playing around


Dio_Brando18

Ok


Odysseus17

You can beat him too DIO if you catch him off guard use the world to pause time you can make a hole in his chest and it’s over.


Dio_Brando18

True, DIO can out hax Goku and win.


ScottieB0I

Ok but it’s been shown on, quite the handful of occasions, that Hax in the dragon ball universe just don’t work at a certain gap in power.


Dio_Brando18

But hax abilities in Dragon Ball are also not as complicated as stopping time.


Average_Ningen_User

Meanwhile hit and guldo reading this


Leat_fingies13

Goku slams kirby


Wizard_Engie

Goku gets absorbed by Kirby. What now?


Buutardd

in what world bro ☠️ we’ve never even see kirby go all out and his feats are insane at that alone


Dio_Brando18

Yeah, Chaos Elfilis was the strongest opponent Kirby has fought to date, they were ripping timelines apart and Kirby still beats him pretty casually.


Perry_cox29

Kirby is either god or he could kill god…


Jaded_Jicama_268

Kirby is his own sentiment being with Powers & armor that "possibly'' could beat Goku given which one he uses!!!


Leat_fingies13

Goku slams kirby too


Dio_Brando18

He doesn't, Kirby casually beat an opponent who was ripping apart time and space.


Mr_Anonymous13

Popeye No, seriously. Some of his feats: - Surviving getting fully disintegrated - Surviving reality itself getting turned off - Knocking out his own creator https://youtu.be/7UhguuEX9Tg?si=frO2o-YGuxKVR8sn


Independent-Frequent

Popeye negs Zeno, complete spite matchup


Acefowl

Don't forget he can reshape reality with his punches. In one cartoon, he punched a bull into a wooden fence, then uppercuts it. It comes back to Earth as a meat market.


SoulDragpn

As much as I hate death battle overall, Popeye vs Saitama was good.


ToonNex

Goku's stats: -Godlike power. -The ability to master offence and defence -Anything in the super manga i havent been paying attention to but have seen snippits of. - has had sex My stats: - I exist - I've never died. - My Charisma is so shit it would repel women toward my opponent like projectiles - I had a dream once where i beat him so it counts.


troopertodd15443

This guys onto something!


Bakugothedripgod

In my dream I was goku so I win


dylanaruto

The real Goku Black


Bakugothedripgod

😭


Crissul

Let him cook!!


Chickat28

Beerus and at least half of the other Gods of destruction, all fully trainer angels. Prob a dozen guys in universe 6 and 7 we don't know about. Probably hundreds from the other stronger universes.


Alysis13371337

He isn't even the strongest character in his own anime.


Dio_Brando18

https://preview.redd.it/gpu9fsos2aqb1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50dca1d6bd594eacd2fefb623c1d3fd45a25afd2


37Cross

A heart attack literally kills him lol


JuanPOtto

So... Kira


Initial_Woodpecker_2

No. The death note only works on humans


JuanPOtto

"The human whose name is written in this note shall die" Oh, good catch, didn't think about that.


A-Liguria

-Beerus. -Whis. -All their peers and superiors. -Literally every new enemy the first time they meet. -Any Shmuck that wishes to become the strongest.


Dustin_TheAvGeek

He's never even beaten vegeta 1v1


Stefanthro

It’s not about whether he has - but whether he can.


Living-Tart7370

In base form vegeta beat him in the superhero movie


MooshiNooshi

Without any techniques or transformations. I always imagined Vegeta to win in a brawl fight anyways.


FunCharacteeGuy

what? why? goku has had the most experience with martial arts.


Stefanthro

Yes he did - irrelevant to my point.


Classic_Proposal_154

Be fr


sora785

Goku/Gohan/Krillin/Yajirobe barely beat Vegeta the first time and Goku still didn't even technically win against Majin Vegeta


Carlmwilliams

Grasping, Goku didn’t want to go ss3 as it would take up his time. Vegeta spent that whole saga as a punching bag while goku held his own again everyone except super buu. I like vegeta but let’s not pretend here


RealMajesti

It’s true 😂


Bucket0fLava

Zeno


TheTrueCuddles

Goku realistically isnt even in the top 30 of his own verse let alone others.


Dio_Brando18

Right, I don't think this guy actually watched Dragon Ball Super.


ClerkPsychological58

Arale


Shadow0fnothing

![gif](giphy|PJA65tFQSw4hudBl6q)


carbonsmith2003

Ben 10


GapLeather1888

A fucking needle


Legal-Measurement-32

Ger


CAL_the_fox_lover

The Word over Heaven too


[deleted]

broly literally beat his ass so bad that he had to run away with vegeta in tow to learn the fusion dance and then *still* got their combined asses beat.


Dio_Brando18

https://preview.redd.it/dmqqto8j6aqb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90096b318074474128688e0e8c21a423386b63e0


NormaalDoenHoor

When Gogeta went blue he whooped Broly


[deleted]

until he didn't lol


Dazius06

What is this supposed to mean? Broly was being slapped around by gogeta blue, he wasn't able to land a single hit.


Hasd4

No one said I have to fight him, just beat him. I can beat him in a videogame or a non-physical competition probably


Dio_Brando18

Big Brain plays, I like it.


Gawyelmaximopoder

Who's this Nobody person? He must be from a new rising fandom


Dio_Brando18

Are you talking about me?


TitanicTNT

No. The joke he's making is "If Nobody can beat Goku, then Nobody must be pretty strong!"


Dio_Brando18

Oh my word, i'm just stupid.


blackskull414

Jesus Christ


Yoshikage_Kira_333

Shinra


Dio_Brando18

Not counting Saitama, let's not open that can of worms here.


I_am__a_jackass

Saitama wins for gag reasons. i’m sorry but it had yo be said, you can’t take a fight with Saitama seriously


TheRealLoserTryHard

Saitama isn’t even a gag character. He’s played mostly seriously


dustbringer11

While this is true the whole point of one punch man is saitama will always be more powerful. Like the universe will never give him a fight he can’t win because by dbz standards his strength has broken the power scale of his universe. But also it’s literally an in written cosmic joke he won’t find someone who can challenge him.


TheRealLoserTryHard

The whole point of OPM is Saitama struggling to find someone who can give him a fight. To be at the top, even at the start of the series. Because that’s just his series and it’s whole premise. In Vs battles, we can’t use that because it’s disingenuous and quite frankly not true outside of his own verse. Saitama breaking his limiter doesn’t even scale him anywhere either. His infinite potential ≠ infinite strength. Even if you’d wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, then sure. Let’s do that. Saitama eventually closes the cap, even despite how long it would take since he scales to solar system - galaxy. Goku still has more going for him. Better range, techniques, Haxs, and better fighting Prowess. Saitama has skill, but not on the level of goku’s not to mention how Goku still has transformations ontop of scaling IMMENSELY higher than Saitama. Which means he’d have to close the gap yet again. It’s an uphill battle for Saitama no matter what he does. Goku with every limb tied could still kill Saitama with an Aura flex. Not saying he would, but Goku could.


RibozymeR

>In Vs battles, we can’t use that because it’s disingenuous and quite frankly not true outside of his own verse. Well, if we go only by what's allowed in both universes, Goku can't use his ki, how does it go then?


TheRealLoserTryHard

I love willful ignorance. What I said was that we won’t use narrative that we’ve come to assume from the verse, because that’s a result of the story being told. Saitama being the strongest is only a result of his story needing him to be that strong, and so we won’t take that. Ki does not follow this narrative. Goku has gotten his own strength through the copious amount of training he’s done. All the self improvement is why he’s so strong. But sure. Keep feeding that backwards thinking to save Saitama from Goatku.


dustbringer11

I mean sure. But like genuinely for the purposes of a VS I’d always assumed gag characters were out. Saitama is literally authors word of mouth gag character so I pointed out the cosmic joke gag saitama exists in Edit: and to be clear I agree saitama minus gag gets clapped quickly just the fact he is the gag of I can one shot anything.


guyfromsaitama

Saitama is very much a parody character. Parody doesn’t have to always be silly and funny, it can be serious and cool too.


TheRealLoserTryHard

That’s true. Just like Goku.


Unhappy-Thought9883

I don't see how saitama being a gag character matters in vs debates, even if it's the point of the story that he one shots everyone it shouldn't really be of relevance since this isn't one punch man, however i still think saitama would win but rather for his established growth for whenever he faces someone stronger than him


I_am__a_jackass

this.


Leat_fingies13

Nah goku slams saitama’s verse he’s so overrated, goku slams


[deleted]

As if Goku isn't one of the overrated characters himself 💀💀💀💀 blud is wanked to be more powerful than he actually is. I can agree on Saitama though, and Kirby, but others? Nah you're wilding.


Dio_Brando18

In a gag encounter, sure, Saitama wins, but through scaling his feats of strength, he doesn't.


Leat_fingies13

Goku slams saitama


Dio_Brando18

I know he does, I just don't want to start an argument with Saitama fans.


DamnParzival

Least delusional Saitama hater


CancelThat6560

I mean... we never know what Saitama is capable of the only thing we know is that his main villain is a freaking Omni God 💀


Many-Zookeepergame70

Beerus, whis, angels, Zeno, rimuru(light novel), sailor moon(manga), Superman (certain versions of Superman), etc


Kira_Mira1

Zen Oh, Daishinkan, all angels, all gods (?), Frieza, Granolah (?) and maybe maybe Vegeta.


evidenthought

![gif](giphy|bPXKfpvkn9tQc)


Cloud_Strife369

I am looking At all this reply’s and everyone is missing 1 char that goku has never beat in the whole series no matter how strong he gets he can still never beat him. Mr. Popo and that’s the pecking order bitch


dustbringer11

I found the correct answer finally thank you sir


Cloud_Strife369

No problem


TitanicTNT

It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo.


Cloud_Strife369

Yes


MarkFudo

Ben 10 (without Alien X)


CAL_the_fox_lover

Which alien u think it would be best? I think cromostome or feedback would do a good job in surviving but idk what's good to damage goku, maybe atomics?


MarkFudo

Ghostfreak and Big Chill are pretty good matchups against Goku in my opinion, as Goku can't deal with intangible opponents while all these aliens need to win is to touch Goku and either possess him or freeze him from the inside


CAL_the_fox_lover

Wait did a intangible character ever apeard in db? I can't think they ever did that


MarkFudo

Hit can become intangible but cannot attack while in this state (one of the weaknesses that allowed Goku to win) https://preview.redd.it/hhnkqits0bqb1.jpeg?width=1362&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b78e18bc7b888064f28a785b59402266fe3d824


CAL_the_fox_lover

Oohhh nice


SirJdenodas

Gutrot,ghost freak and heatblast are all aliens I think can beat goku excluding the god like ones


Ghengiroo

Feedback (fast enough to absorb a multiversal Big Bang in an instant and can absorb any kind of energy) and Ghostfreak (can become intangible and can possibly possess him) are probably Ben’s best bets without Alien X. Clockwork could maybe work, while Goku has shown resistance to time powers Clockwork’s abilities are a lot stronger than Hit’s.


Money-Leek201

I think a mix of aliens could beat goku like using chromastone or feedback to absorb goku’s ki attacks and then goop or big chill for his melee attacks and then just wear him down


Leat_fingies13

Alien X is a Mr. Satan victim


Noob_saaaaaaaama

Get back to me when Goku survives the destruction and remakes an entire universe He had to fight in a tournament just to avoid it…


[deleted]

My dad could


Wild-Card66

Alucard from Hellsing? I mainly use Post Schrodinger.


D4rk_Banana

Uncle grandpa


1NFINIT

Wrong? Bruh Goku with drip is gonna solo everyone


Dio_Brando18

Not counting memes


1NFINIT

Kid Goku broke the manga panel


Dio_Brando18

I know.


Particular_Minute_67

Solaris sonic 06 Any type of virus or infection The marvel cosmic users


Capable_Mud_1108

Frieza,


DoggievDoggy

Black Frieza


Bing-bing456

Black Frieza


Caesar_Passing

Maybe The Tick


TJ0019

Toriyama and Toyotaro


Mooston029

Beerus, every angel, grand priest, zeno, the guards, vegeta maybe, gohan maybe, frieza, maybe broly, gas, maybe granolah, everyone in heroes.


Eldritch-Cleaver

Sorbet laser go brrr lol


Accurate_Dirt5794

Zeno


JmarvelousG

I remember broly whooping his ass pretty good.


MemZ561

Gas…


mercwiththemouth518

Toyotaro


AJ0Laks

Frieza


Diligent_Delinquent

Squirrel Girl lmao


mrjoestar99

Pretty sure Gohan mops the floor with Goku now. Same with Black Frieza, Whis, Broly, Beerus, Vegeta.


AJG000000

Anos


HundredWeebs

Infinite Zamasu


Wisermartin

my friend eric


VitoMR89

Future Zamasu, Fused Zamasu, Infinite Zamasu, Black Freeza, Beast Gohan, Beerus, Whis, All other angels, The Grand Priest and the Zenos can beat him.


Legacy_Outlawed

arceus


Tyrelius_Dragmire

In Dragon Ball: Black Frieza, Beerus, Whis and the Angels, the Grand Priest, Zeno, and as of the end of DBS Superhero Vegeta. Out of DB: Ben 10 via Alien X or the Scan feature giving him a Peak Saiyan specimen. Popeye his Spinach is just unnecessary, it has the power to bring him back from non-existence... Popeye's Nothingness ate the Spinach and he came back from being erased. Don't fuck with the OG OP character. Pretty much any Archie Sonic Super form. Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls and Discord from MLP for pretty much the same reason, Discord can even drain Goku's power with The Bewitching Bell. Thor Allfather with or without the Power Cosmic (Yeah DB really lowballed Thor for his fight with Vegeta) Pre-Crisis Beyonder Kratos via the insane scaling of Norse Mythology Just about any Speed Force user Main continuity Superman is a debate that will never end, So I'll say Superman 1 million (the most OP version of the character) Doomsday, even if Goku kills him, he'll just come back immune to however Goku killed him.


sinnerXO

Goj... oh never mind he cut in half 💀


Dio_Brando18

https://preview.redd.it/cr99nneavaqb1.png?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23afe7cc99349e924cc7a571e98e364a8918d08d


PharaohScarab

Hajun Rimiru Sailor Moon Madoka Kaname Kumagawa Misogi Zeno Saint Seiya Wally West Mario Sonic (Both Game and Archie) Archie Mega Man Lucifer Morningstar (DC) The One Above All The One Below All Vergil Dante Doom Slayer Saber Gilgamesh Yato Ren Fuji Kirby


ChaoticSlime2

MF half the damn cast of drgaon ball can whip gokus ass


datolningen

Stupidity


iHawkfrost

Stage 4 Leukemia


Correct-Purpose-964

Arale


geggyuwu

heart disease


SPDTalon

Vegeta


BlackRabbitt_01

Beerus, whis, monaka, yamcha, farmer with a shotgun


Crimson_Fiver

Me. Ripping up a drawing is ez


lolligi

Superman.


Raecino

😂😂😂😂


ProfectusInfinity

Hajun (Shinza Bansho) Featherine (Umineko) Void Shiki (Fate) Yogiri (Instant Death) Ruphas (A Wild Last Boss)


Dio_Brando18

Plus but not limited to Rimuru, Anos, Anti-Spiral, Mori Jin, Gilgamesh, Saber, Archer(Fate), Shinra Banshoman, Beerus, Whis, Grand Priest, Zeno, Black Frieza, any angel in Dragon Ball ETC.


Linkatron2000

Comic Thanos (probably), Alien X, GER, basically anyone that is written to be unbeatable


MAD_JEW

Also freaking archie sonic


LoveWaffle1

Jackie Chun


TheOtherHalf01

https://preview.redd.it/a9ees4fncaqb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfed0bceb82360c59a1a31980d3c542af7ba10a7


RektPotter

Black frieza, beerus, angels, zeno, grand priest, rimuru, hulk, TOAA, ghost rider, novel pennywise, ash williams, scp-001 gate guardian, scp-001 scarlet king, doctor doom, beyonder, thanos, darkseid, superman, flash, dr manhattan, lucifer, heart virus, needles, cosmic spiderman, thor, spectre, galactus, anti-monitor, anti-spiral, golb, bill cipher, scp-682, scp-2747, azathoth, kratos, doomslayer, sun wukong, raven, green lantern, dr fate, the presence, chi chi, jean grey, deadpool, and thats just barely scratching the surface


millerb82

Raditz, Vegeta, Cell are some that come to mind


GoauldofWar

Vegeta beat him at the end of Super Hero so.....


Relevant-Rooster-298

Vegeta’s beat Goku three times now. Saiyan saga, Buu saga, and Super Hero.


Dio_Brando18

I know, I don't know what this guy is on.


froggydude696

Wang ling could probably solo everyone and everything https://preview.redd.it/vaettcg2x9qb1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=116de420ec9b3756378091eddc0b8c95b1aabf52


Dio_Brando18

True, he and his series are criminally underrated, that show is so good.


Leat_fingies13

Goku slams that random guy


Dio_Brando18

This "random guy" casually made a ball of energy the size of the sun, he was heavily suppressed at this time to.


Inevitable_Ask6670

Superman, Martian Manhunter, Supreme, Beerus, Whis, any Angel, Grand Priest, Spawn, Thor, Korvac, Volthoom, Thanos, Darkseid, Kratos, Dante, Vergil, Swamp Thing, Manthing, Mangog, Odin, Zeus, Gorr, Hercules, Gohan, Frieza, Broly, technically Professor X (Goku cannot handle mind control on his level), Hulk, Jean Grey, Galactus, Dr. Strange, Dr. Fate, Scp-682?, SCP Gate Guardian, Cthulhu, Hastur, Azathoth, Shub Niggurath, Yog Sothoth, Nyarlathotep, Silver Surfer, Scarlet King, SCP 3812, just a lot of SCPs, Gladiator from Marvel if he’s full confidence, Blue Marvel, Orion, Shazam, Black Adam, Superboy Prime, Nekron, Despero, the list goes on and on. Any doubts: respect threads or the best FEAT RUN YouTuber Ivanthe Unstoppable has eggcellent videos on most of the characters I said and more characters that could beat Goku.


Longjumping_Rate_833

Anyone above gas and black frieza in DBS


SeDefendendo88

The guy he’s based off can destroy him.


Wizard_main

Jin Mori


Short-Shelter

The Spot


SnooChipmunks126

Majin Vegeta, a heart virus, Piccolo.


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Comfortable_Wave9807

Saitama is a gag character who’s power is described as “able to beat any opponent in one punch.” There isn’t actual scaling to it, so he is infinitely powerful. He can beat Goku, but only because it’s an unfair comparison


Atathor

Superman, one punch man


Colmado_Bacano

Sailor Moon


AngryRinger

Sai-fucking-tama for one thing


Dio_Brando18

I guess no one saw my comment that said no Saitama because I didn't want to have that can of worms be opened,but oh well, I just forgot to put it in the title.


NoobThatExists

Nobody can


Darth--Nox

Saitama