True. Though, I get why he didn't for relapse. He's said himself he doesn't like that album. "Encore I was on drugs, relapse I was flushing them out" I honestly didn't hear too much crap about those albums though, tbh. A little for MMLP2 with the rock beats, I guess but nothing near Revivals level of active hate.
Same in Belgium and France
Relapse being always praised, everyone around me be saying it's his 2nd best album, and it's very close to the first one (usually MMLP 1, or sometimes TES)
I’m not trying to argue but I feel like I’m fucking missing something when people and Em himself say this about revival. Like I get castle and arose, masterpieces, but how can people say he poured his heart into this album more than Recovery especially when it’s littered with songs like remind me, heat, offended etc
I don't think anyone mentioned Recovery. That album is a top 4 album of his. But Revival definitely had those goofy songs, but it also had Walk on Water, believe, untouchable, like home and bad husband. I think it's a very personal album for him. In comparison to Relapse and MMLP2 (to a lesser extent), it makes sense it hurt him more that people didn't like Revival.
Oh sorry I was just using recovery as an example I know you didn’t say recovery specifically but you did say in a way he hadn’t on an entire album before, so that would include recovery. And true but I guess I still don’t see how those songs are sooo personal to him when this man has basically built his entire career on letting us in on the gory details of his personal life with his mom, dad, Kim, kids, proof etc - I can think of so many more that hit harder like My Darling on refill still gives me chills. I guess that’s just my perspective though and people can obviously disagree
Hot take: Remind Me is a good song. But yeah definitely not a heart-pouring song. Also a lot of the songs are mixed horribly and from a scrapped album or recovery presumably.
The fact that every new interview is just him praising LL Joyner and Cole all the time like I get LL being one of his main influences but man does he praise the same rappers every interview and say the same things all the time I’m convinced Joyner has his family held captive at this point
He doesn't do enough shit musically.
Look at how many nice songs you have from rappers jumping on others beats for fun. Why can't he do more content like that? I know he doesn't have to, and he has a huge music catalog, but it would be awesome to hear him on others beats.
He doesn't know if it's gay to play putt-putt golf with a friend and watch his butt-butt when he tees off but, but I ain't done yet in football the quarterback yells out hutt-hutt while he reaches in another grown man's ass grabs on his nuts but just what if it was never meant it was just an accident but he tripped, fell, slipped and his penis went in his teeny tiny little round hiney and he didn't mean it but his little weenie flinched just a little bit and I don't need to go into any more details but what if he pictured it as a female's butt?
Like are you kidding me? Even if you picture it as a female's butt that's still pretty obviously gay.
I got sick of everybody asking him who his favorite new guys in the business were and he was listing guys like Cole and Kendrick who were already considered the very best of this generation. It would have been like people saying that Jay Z and Eminem are the best up and coming rappers in 2002.
I wish he promoted his artists better....like ever. The only artist that ever got great promotion at Shady Records was 50 Cent and thats becuase 50 was 50. 50 generated his own promotion. Even D12 he never really attempted to promote and now days again going back to "hey who's the best up and coming guys" instead of mentioning guys that are considered the best of this generation why not mention Boogie or Grip? How hard is it to say "yo I got these two guys right now that are incredible everybody should be listening to them. Boogies doing commercials, Grip matched me word for word on a track we did together they are monsters".
hard agree. this reminds me of a post about the peak roster of shady records and it had conway and gunn in it. genuinely never knew they were ever signed to shady records lmao
That’s one of the reasons why I’m not a huge fan of “Recovery”, even though a lot of people consider it to be his like “unofficial comeback” album or whatever. All the “something something, IN OTHER WORDS…” lines. I don’t really wanna hear that kinda sh-t from someone like Em.
I don’t think it’s a terrible album or anything, but I definitely think that it’s overrated.
I think it’s so annoying he talks badly about relapse but then will defend revival to the death. Ill never forget how heartbroken I was when he said “fuck my last CD that shits in my trash” but then with revival everyone is apparently just too stupid to get it like what 😭
He could place the blame for relapse being critically panned on him re-learning to rap after being a drug addict, and encore for him being an addict. Revival he had a 4 year wait and seemed to be at his most technically proficient, and dropped arguably his worst album. Thats gotta be hard to have no excuse for that.
He raps extremely well, but is not very good at piecing together a cohesive album imo. That's not to say that I don't like his albums of course, but they almost never feel like one solid piece of work that has a concept, and flows all together like some other artists can. Some examples off the top of my head. Concept albums like GKMC from Kendrick, or WOLF from Tyler the Creator. I always thought Born Sinner was p good bout this too with having an over arching theme and having all of the different tracks kind of display or tie into these themes in one way or another.
You're right, I've felt that he just puts selected good songs together to form an album but not as a complete story with each track being part of it, especially the recent ones and i think MTBMB is a good example. But I feel like he did a great job of it making TES and Relapse.
I only slightly disagree with you. MMLP was an entire album a kid who was a nobody 12 months before that becoming one of the biggest stars on the planet and how he dealt with it. His Parents, his record label, other rappers, his extended family, the press. I once wrote a whole deal on how almost every song on that album is him adjusting to his new life from a different POV. The Way I Am, Criminal, Marshall Mathers, Kill You, Stan of course, Real Slim Shady every one of those songs is him adjusting to the very basic concept of "last year I was nobody, now I'm making money" as he said.
Relapse, Recovery and Kamikaze all have very big themes throughout their albums. Overall though I agree with you.
I said almost. MMLP is deff one of the better examples for sure. Same with Relapse and Recover, and kind of TES. Not that he cant do it, just not one of his strengths.
I do agree with you somewhat as well though.
You instantly lost all credibility by saying Eminem can’t piece together cohesive albums and then give wolf by Tyler the creator as a good example. Lol your an idiot
How? I'm clearly not talking about the quality of the albums or the rapping ability. For the WOLF example, just look at how its structured. The album is presented almost like a play of sorts, you get introduced to characters, there's a setting (they are at summer camp) and the songs all kind of allude to a story being told through the lens of the characters introduced throughout the album. The skits play a big part in tying the events together that take place along the way. I don't see how I could explain it any better, and I guess its just one of those thing where you understand what I'm saying or you don't. Either way, there's no need to be salty. You came to a post asking for us to say something bad and you called me out my name over it lol. Relax family.
Absolutely it was toxic for sure, I remember seeing a documentary and his former body guard was like Kim used to take her heal of her shoe and hit Marshall with it
I'm not going to lie though, one of the MAIN rules of a relationship is dont get others involved into it, once you start talking about all the private things to everyone and get everyone involved and make the relationship so public, its bound to be over. It's already bad enough if you just gossip to people in your local community bout it, imagine the whole world. I mean in the end the "popular" couple who everyone knows every single detail of their relationship never lasts. I'm not saying it would work out if Marshall never dissed her in the first place, but there is no chance if he did, there could be a bigger chance if he didn't, way bigger, it would be private and there is no obligation at the back of your mind to stick to what you said to everyone else.
What he said "but I was also tryin' to piss Kim off. I put a lot of my personal shit out there. But I don’t care. See, it’s like every time somebody disses me, I'ma talk about them. It’s kind of like if you piss me off, I'ma respond in my songs. Okay, Kim, you’re going to piss me off? Then I'ma make you look stupid in front of all these people. But I don’t limit this attitude to just Kim… I mean everybody." Is a horrible attitude, there is no place for private relationships or forgiveness, ever. Especially when you get so pissed when someone else disses you for your wrongs...
Also an apology expresses your own wrongs, if you're only sorry because they're sorry that's being guilt tripped, not sincere apology, saying "we both suck" and expressing what they did wrong in your own apology is really..... something.
She did a lot wrong too but the most sincere apology is the one where you are sorry, even if the other person isn't. When you can acknowledge what you did and be the bigger person even if the other person wont be.
Amywynam💀🇺🇲
And one thing about Kim is she took years of abuse and humiliation before she put him on blast. Like I am fully convinced that if she was as bad as Em painted her she would have dragged him to filth from day one and would have been making millions from being his ex. Andy Cohen would have paid her top dollar to be on one of those housewives shows. She would have brought legendary drama.
But she had zero interest. I think that says a lot about her. Bc if any rapper's wife deserved to get payback it's her.
People downvoting you are just plain dickriders. I love Em but I don’t think Kim was as bad as he painted her. She deserves her privacy and him talking openly about everything probably fucked her up mentally. Imagine seeing fans of your husband burning pictures of you in public. That’s just fucked up. Hope she’s doing well these days. Nobody deserves that kind of public humiliation.
Yup.. that's why I mention how he treated kim so much. Stans like to gloss over the fact that his music was so toxic for her. And the stans who say that she deserved are fcking psychos tbh
Em even admitted he exaggerated about her in his book and he had zero room to be mad at her when he was whoring his way around the world lost in his own addiction. I can only imagine if you are a fragile person like Kim has been in recent years due to grief and depression that having that narrative out there about you weighs on you heavily. You don't tend to see yourself very positively once you slip into that mindset anyway so imagine what it's like for her. She even had stans DMing her after her 2015 suicide attempt to tell her to make sure and do it right the next time.. truly depraved
Truly. I also saw tweets years ago from ppl living in their town that they were driving past her house blasting his music I bet we don't know half of the shit she's had to deal with. It's the one thing that I truly dislike about him and I think Kim has had to swallow a lot of bitterness for her kid's sake. I always say that one interview from Kim about how much trauma she has as a result of him targeting her publicly and he's screwed. He's extremely lucky she stays quiet bc the receipts are all there ... and not many exes stay quiet in the rap world..
I’ve been thinking this so much lately like why does he always look so serious but at the same time makes some of the worlds most unserious songs like tone deaf that can’t be the same person
He's not a consistent artist and doesn't put much effort into being one. Not that he has to at this point, dude gotta rest, but it'd be just nice if he was, you know.
He's gotten a little soft in his older age. Even with Kamikaze being his hardest album since MMLP1, he censored himself. I'd have preferred if he'd just gone in and rerecorded than blatantly censoring himself. Man was king of controversy, was still spouting about being controversial, then did that.
I suppose it's natural, but sucks to see sometimes haha.
The worst thing about Eminem is that he’s white. I don’t mean that in a hateful way, I mean no matter how good he is, no matter how many other rappers have him on their list of top rappers and no matter how many times he proves himself he will never be seen as being the best of the best by the mainstream simply because he’s white. However this has allotted him a top five spot on most lists and articles I’ve seen they’re afraid or too biased to a white man as #1 even if he’s earned it.
He doesn't do concepts. Even if it is a concept, it doesn't sound like it. I genuinely think if he made a concept version of Relapse, entirely about drugs and the effect they had on his life it could be widely received almost as high as TPAB. I feel in a lot of ways Kendrick is just Em if Em made albums about deeper stuff
Eh. I mean a more serious one where he's talking more realistically about drugs and doesn't have songs where he just goes 'yes I rape women' but more of what Kendrick does and cole to some extent. Like a really serious drug album I mean.
I detest his overuse of "get it" and "haha" adlibs, I'm not one to care TOO much about corny lines but if they're followed by one of those adlibs it becomes 100x worse.
He's dragging his feet and messing up my life plan. I really thought he'd be my ex-husband by now. Not even one song about killing me on his last album.
Idk, its just a cool thing once every 100th time, like in rap god. That was pretty cool but it gets tireing. Plus it overshadows his other abilities. Most People that Arent stans remember him for his fast rapping, neglecting his wordplay and storytelling
He’s so bothered by critics, other people, and stuff he would’ve used to just ignore. Like, he cared enough to beef with MGK? Don’t get me wrong, his music sounds like fermenting trash, but classic Eminem wouldn’t have bothered. Though, him becoming far more inclusive is an improvement over his young self, so there’s obviously that.
He is awful at promoting the artists under his own label.
Seriously, Boogie and Grip are both amazing, but they’re being killed by the disease that is shady records. I’m also really scared for EZ Mil, he’s a young artist with so much potential (seriously I could see him being Kendrick level one day) but signing with shady records is always a bad choice.
Let me go in real quick:
Bro has run out of shit to rap about but still thinks he needs shit to rap about. Godzilla was great, Rap God was great, neither of them were about beef. They were just fun. When he rapped about the media in The Ringer I was like, "when the fuck is the last time the media talked shit about Em?" Eminem has no opps and that's a good thing. He should rap about that. The best thing that could have happened to Em was being placed at 5th GOAT and all these dude's coming out saying he can't be the best because he's white. It gave him shit to rap about.
The media is journalists and they all trashed Revival. Hell, they haven't cared for a lot of his post Recovery work. They openly acknowledge sometimes they hate that he's won the war against them, because despite how much they talk about him losing it, his stuff still sells, still gets views and fans love it.
I don't think he actually disliked gay people lol, it was all about the controversy and said things you only joke about with your friends inside your living room
He's a multimillionaire recording artist and some of his recent music sounds ghetto as hell. Like a 6th grader mixed it on an iMac or someone just downloaded a beat from a free app. Just unprofessional.
Honestly, he used “mumble rap” as a scapegoat for any problems Revival had, and it’s not a good scapegoat for anyone who was paying attention to Hip Hop at the time. Guys like Joey Badass, Kendrick Lamar, Jay-Z, XXXTentacion and Big Sean (I’d even throw J Cole and Ab-Soul in since they dropped at the very end of December 2016) all dropped albums that year that did fine commercially and didn’t have nearly the amount of criticism that Revival had.
People were pretty upfront about what they disliked about Revival, and most of the hate was towards the pop features. Em even acknowledged this on the Chloraseptic remix, but afterwards he just acted like that had nothing to do with the hate towards the album.
As much as I like Kamikaze, blaming Lil Yachty, Lil Pump and Lil Xan, who were ALL falling off at the time, for your album being criticized is kind of a ridiculous notion when you think about it.
Misogyny and homophobia
Also, he never tried to push D12 much. Sure, they made two fire albums he put a lot into, but he never made any serious attempt at pushing any of the members. Where was the Eminem produced Kuniva solo album, where were the features by single members on Em albums, where were any attempts at linking guys with other artists? Swift hopping on a track with Cypress Hill coulda been a great fit and a huge look for him, for example
The misogyny and homophobia is self referential. This is where his biggest subliminals are. Listen to the beats and how the melodies fall apart. His voice is full of anguish. He hates this side of himself. He's saying how unhappy it makes him. He hates that the fanslove it up and can't see what he's really saying.
Yeah, he said those things. He was occupying a version of himself that is broken and powerless and full of lies, stuck in the past.
You are welcome.
i agree for the most part but i’d say he’s the best at possibly freestyling (wayne is like right behind him) and maybe technical ability. by that i mean purely stuff like rhyme schemes, breath control, flow execution, etc
i know that this sub loves his new music, but it’s hust unlistenable to me. especially mtbmb, i would rather listen to encore
that’s the bad thing, his new music
His political leanings have turned terrible and it greatly effects the respect I had for him. He used to not give a fuck and insult whoever was stupid, now he says if you don’t like Biden to fuck off…kinda like he is a puppet with a message tbh
i think that he’s gotten better in terms of like his rapping technically and everything, in fact in that sense i dont think anybody is better than him. BUT, but he needs better concepts for records and his beats are okay but all sound too similar and boring. i think he should also make a concept album, but like a deep concept album, one that would fit him, yk.
How he only makes one song with newly signed artists, we have so much great music and potentially full feature albums to be made, like 2 artists collaborating on 1 full album, I want that, with Grip, Conway, Kendrick, or another Bad Meets Evil and others that I can’t think of right now
Seemed to get off on humiliating Kim and likely would still be doing it if it wasn't for their daughters. You can tell he misses using her name as a punching bag.
He has to cuss in his raps to sell records, unlike Will Smith…
But I do so fuck him and fuck you too.
You think I give a damn about a Grammy
Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me
“But Slim, what if you win, wouldn’t it be weird?”
Why? So you guys could just lie to get me here?
So you can sit me here next to Britney spears
Yo shit Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs.
So I can sit between Carson daily and Fred durst and hear em argue over who she gave head to first
Lil bitch put me oblast on mtv
not gonna lie this trend of continuing rap lyrics is so fucking cringe lol
he cares way too much about critics
That alone doesn't bother, it's the fact that he cared what critics thought about Relapse and MMLP2, but didn't with Revival.
Walk on water alone should tell you why. He poured his heart and soul into Revival. In a way he hadn't before, on an entire album at least
I understand why and I like that he didn't take shit about Revival, I just wish he did the same for MMLP2 and especially Relapse.
True. Though, I get why he didn't for relapse. He's said himself he doesn't like that album. "Encore I was on drugs, relapse I was flushing them out" I honestly didn't hear too much crap about those albums though, tbh. A little for MMLP2 with the rock beats, I guess but nothing near Revivals level of active hate.
All my homies in Brasil love Relapse Mfs be saying Relapse is top 3 tier(personally I'd say Relapse is my 4th fav album)
Same in Belgium and France Relapse being always praised, everyone around me be saying it's his 2nd best album, and it's very close to the first one (usually MMLP 1, or sometimes TES)
I’m not trying to argue but I feel like I’m fucking missing something when people and Em himself say this about revival. Like I get castle and arose, masterpieces, but how can people say he poured his heart into this album more than Recovery especially when it’s littered with songs like remind me, heat, offended etc
I don't think anyone mentioned Recovery. That album is a top 4 album of his. But Revival definitely had those goofy songs, but it also had Walk on Water, believe, untouchable, like home and bad husband. I think it's a very personal album for him. In comparison to Relapse and MMLP2 (to a lesser extent), it makes sense it hurt him more that people didn't like Revival.
Oh sorry I was just using recovery as an example I know you didn’t say recovery specifically but you did say in a way he hadn’t on an entire album before, so that would include recovery. And true but I guess I still don’t see how those songs are sooo personal to him when this man has basically built his entire career on letting us in on the gory details of his personal life with his mom, dad, Kim, kids, proof etc - I can think of so many more that hit harder like My Darling on refill still gives me chills. I guess that’s just my perspective though and people can obviously disagree
Hot take: Remind Me is a good song. But yeah definitely not a heart-pouring song. Also a lot of the songs are mixed horribly and from a scrapped album or recovery presumably.
I feel like he poured his heart into TES & Recovery more
What do you mean he didnt care what critics thought of Revival? Did you miss the entirety of Kamikaze?
With Relapse and MMLP2 he listened to critics, in Kamikaze he told them to fuck off.
Riiight I see what you meant
You know the one I thing I noticed about critics man? Critics never ask me how my day was.
Well imma tell em
Uh Yesterday my dog died
He's dropping sauce instead of music
Explains why I’m using way too many napkins..
Explains why I'm flappin around like a bapkin
You're using chapstick and napkins
Divorcing Harrison Ford and i’m in a porsche on the floor boards…while i’m world tourin’
Still waiting for "My Salsa"
The fact that every new interview is just him praising LL Joyner and Cole all the time like I get LL being one of his main influences but man does he praise the same rappers every interview and say the same things all the time I’m convinced Joyner has his family held captive at this point
Joyner ain't even that good 😭
yeah he fell off rather quickly after the em feature
Lucky You was incredible otherwise he's the same as any of the people Eminem inspired like Hopsin, etc.
Exactly
He doesn't do enough shit musically. Look at how many nice songs you have from rappers jumping on others beats for fun. Why can't he do more content like that? I know he doesn't have to, and he has a huge music catalog, but it would be awesome to hear him on others beats.
Wasn't he doing a bunch of guest appearances like a year or two ago? I was just waiting for his own stuff at that point lol.
He doesn't know if it's gay to play putt-putt golf with a friend and watch his butt-butt when he tees off but, but I ain't done yet in football the quarterback yells out hutt-hutt while he reaches in another grown man's ass grabs on his nuts but just what if it was never meant it was just an accident but he tripped, fell, slipped and his penis went in his teeny tiny little round hiney and he didn't mean it but his little weenie flinched just a little bit and I don't need to go into any more details but what if he pictured it as a female's butt? Like are you kidding me? Even if you picture it as a female's butt that's still pretty obviously gay.
Till then he’s gonna walk around with a manly strut
How?! He ain't got no legs
He hasn’t released his ‘next single’ My Salsa yet. It’s been 20+ years.
I got sick of everybody asking him who his favorite new guys in the business were and he was listing guys like Cole and Kendrick who were already considered the very best of this generation. It would have been like people saying that Jay Z and Eminem are the best up and coming rappers in 2002. I wish he promoted his artists better....like ever. The only artist that ever got great promotion at Shady Records was 50 Cent and thats becuase 50 was 50. 50 generated his own promotion. Even D12 he never really attempted to promote and now days again going back to "hey who's the best up and coming guys" instead of mentioning guys that are considered the best of this generation why not mention Boogie or Grip? How hard is it to say "yo I got these two guys right now that are incredible everybody should be listening to them. Boogies doing commercials, Grip matched me word for word on a track we did together they are monsters".
hard agree. this reminds me of a post about the peak roster of shady records and it had conway and gunn in it. genuinely never knew they were ever signed to shady records lmao
Yeah I saw that too and had the same reaction
Too many corny jokes in serious songs lol
"So why would I buy you a gay ass teddy bear when you're already BI-POLAR"
😂
That’s one of the reasons why I’m not a huge fan of “Recovery”, even though a lot of people consider it to be his like “unofficial comeback” album or whatever. All the “something something, IN OTHER WORDS…” lines. I don’t really wanna hear that kinda sh-t from someone like Em. I don’t think it’s a terrible album or anything, but I definitely think that it’s overrated.
Too many corny songs with serious potential (I'm looking at you, encore songs with Dre beats)
He only does that when the pressure increases, like khakis
“Now you get to watch her leave out the window, guess that’s why they call it window pane.”
I think it’s so annoying he talks badly about relapse but then will defend revival to the death. Ill never forget how heartbroken I was when he said “fuck my last CD that shits in my trash” but then with revival everyone is apparently just too stupid to get it like what 😭
He could place the blame for relapse being critically panned on him re-learning to rap after being a drug addict, and encore for him being an addict. Revival he had a 4 year wait and seemed to be at his most technically proficient, and dropped arguably his worst album. Thats gotta be hard to have no excuse for that.
Was relapse critically panned really tho? I know critics had something to say about the accents but I mean it won a Grammy 😅
He raps extremely well, but is not very good at piecing together a cohesive album imo. That's not to say that I don't like his albums of course, but they almost never feel like one solid piece of work that has a concept, and flows all together like some other artists can. Some examples off the top of my head. Concept albums like GKMC from Kendrick, or WOLF from Tyler the Creator. I always thought Born Sinner was p good bout this too with having an over arching theme and having all of the different tracks kind of display or tie into these themes in one way or another.
You're right, I've felt that he just puts selected good songs together to form an album but not as a complete story with each track being part of it, especially the recent ones and i think MTBMB is a good example. But I feel like he did a great job of it making TES and Relapse.
putting remind me on the same album as castle/arose was a federal crime lol
Frrr
I only slightly disagree with you. MMLP was an entire album a kid who was a nobody 12 months before that becoming one of the biggest stars on the planet and how he dealt with it. His Parents, his record label, other rappers, his extended family, the press. I once wrote a whole deal on how almost every song on that album is him adjusting to his new life from a different POV. The Way I Am, Criminal, Marshall Mathers, Kill You, Stan of course, Real Slim Shady every one of those songs is him adjusting to the very basic concept of "last year I was nobody, now I'm making money" as he said. Relapse, Recovery and Kamikaze all have very big themes throughout their albums. Overall though I agree with you.
I said almost. MMLP is deff one of the better examples for sure. Same with Relapse and Recover, and kind of TES. Not that he cant do it, just not one of his strengths. I do agree with you somewhat as well though.
I like that answer while you’re not dissing him in any way , respect ✊
You instantly lost all credibility by saying Eminem can’t piece together cohesive albums and then give wolf by Tyler the creator as a good example. Lol your an idiot
How? I'm clearly not talking about the quality of the albums or the rapping ability. For the WOLF example, just look at how its structured. The album is presented almost like a play of sorts, you get introduced to characters, there's a setting (they are at summer camp) and the songs all kind of allude to a story being told through the lens of the characters introduced throughout the album. The skits play a big part in tying the events together that take place along the way. I don't see how I could explain it any better, and I guess its just one of those thing where you understand what I'm saying or you don't. Either way, there's no need to be salty. You came to a post asking for us to say something bad and you called me out my name over it lol. Relax family.
You’re*
Sometimes he isn’t a lyrical spiritual Miracle individual
He was a bad husband
Great dad though
He also gets along with Kim now adays for the sake of their kids, but she wasn’t the perfect wife either
They both were at fault!
Absolutely it was toxic for sure, I remember seeing a documentary and his former body guard was like Kim used to take her heal of her shoe and hit Marshall with it
I'm not going to lie though, one of the MAIN rules of a relationship is dont get others involved into it, once you start talking about all the private things to everyone and get everyone involved and make the relationship so public, its bound to be over. It's already bad enough if you just gossip to people in your local community bout it, imagine the whole world. I mean in the end the "popular" couple who everyone knows every single detail of their relationship never lasts. I'm not saying it would work out if Marshall never dissed her in the first place, but there is no chance if he did, there could be a bigger chance if he didn't, way bigger, it would be private and there is no obligation at the back of your mind to stick to what you said to everyone else. What he said "but I was also tryin' to piss Kim off. I put a lot of my personal shit out there. But I don’t care. See, it’s like every time somebody disses me, I'ma talk about them. It’s kind of like if you piss me off, I'ma respond in my songs. Okay, Kim, you’re going to piss me off? Then I'ma make you look stupid in front of all these people. But I don’t limit this attitude to just Kim… I mean everybody." Is a horrible attitude, there is no place for private relationships or forgiveness, ever. Especially when you get so pissed when someone else disses you for your wrongs... Also an apology expresses your own wrongs, if you're only sorry because they're sorry that's being guilt tripped, not sincere apology, saying "we both suck" and expressing what they did wrong in your own apology is really..... something. She did a lot wrong too but the most sincere apology is the one where you are sorry, even if the other person isn't. When you can acknowledge what you did and be the bigger person even if the other person wont be. Amywynam💀🇺🇲
And one thing about Kim is she took years of abuse and humiliation before she put him on blast. Like I am fully convinced that if she was as bad as Em painted her she would have dragged him to filth from day one and would have been making millions from being his ex. Andy Cohen would have paid her top dollar to be on one of those housewives shows. She would have brought legendary drama. But she had zero interest. I think that says a lot about her. Bc if any rapper's wife deserved to get payback it's her.
People downvoting you are just plain dickriders. I love Em but I don’t think Kim was as bad as he painted her. She deserves her privacy and him talking openly about everything probably fucked her up mentally. Imagine seeing fans of your husband burning pictures of you in public. That’s just fucked up. Hope she’s doing well these days. Nobody deserves that kind of public humiliation.
Yup.. that's why I mention how he treated kim so much. Stans like to gloss over the fact that his music was so toxic for her. And the stans who say that she deserved are fcking psychos tbh Em even admitted he exaggerated about her in his book and he had zero room to be mad at her when he was whoring his way around the world lost in his own addiction. I can only imagine if you are a fragile person like Kim has been in recent years due to grief and depression that having that narrative out there about you weighs on you heavily. You don't tend to see yourself very positively once you slip into that mindset anyway so imagine what it's like for her. She even had stans DMing her after her 2015 suicide attempt to tell her to make sure and do it right the next time.. truly depraved
Some of these Em fans are fucking stupid man.
Truly. I also saw tweets years ago from ppl living in their town that they were driving past her house blasting his music I bet we don't know half of the shit she's had to deal with. It's the one thing that I truly dislike about him and I think Kim has had to swallow a lot of bitterness for her kid's sake. I always say that one interview from Kim about how much trauma she has as a result of him targeting her publicly and he's screwed. He's extremely lucky she stays quiet bc the receipts are all there ... and not many exes stay quiet in the rap world..
His beat selection could be better.
The mf never smiles! Every pic we see he’s got this angry ass look on his face. Nobody will think less of him if he smiles for a damn photo lol
I’ve been thinking this so much lately like why does he always look so serious but at the same time makes some of the worlds most unserious songs like tone deaf that can’t be the same person
honestly it makes it even funnier to me
lol word!
That photo of him with the sunglasses a year or two back where he smiled was the most uncanny thing
[удалено]
I don't know, Kamikaze was a fantastic album born from negativity.
I do believe he likes corny lines with dad jokes, it's not for younger fans
Yeah. Dad jokes is how you troll your kids. And by kids I mean Stans
That's just em tho... if it wasn't that you would be listening to an every day rapper
His beard is weird
Someone grab him some clippers
He was fat once, and that is unacceptable.
He'll throw a stroller at you with a baby in it
He's not a consistent artist and doesn't put much effort into being one. Not that he has to at this point, dude gotta rest, but it'd be just nice if he was, you know.
Yeah he don’t got anything to prove anymore. But that mf needs to drop an album I’m starving😭
He worry’s to much about what people think
He's gotten a little soft in his older age. Even with Kamikaze being his hardest album since MMLP1, he censored himself. I'd have preferred if he'd just gone in and rerecorded than blatantly censoring himself. Man was king of controversy, was still spouting about being controversial, then did that. I suppose it's natural, but sucks to see sometimes haha.
The worst thing about Eminem is that he’s white. I don’t mean that in a hateful way, I mean no matter how good he is, no matter how many other rappers have him on their list of top rappers and no matter how many times he proves himself he will never be seen as being the best of the best by the mainstream simply because he’s white. However this has allotted him a top five spot on most lists and articles I’ve seen they’re afraid or too biased to a white man as #1 even if he’s earned it.
He doesn't do concepts. Even if it is a concept, it doesn't sound like it. I genuinely think if he made a concept version of Relapse, entirely about drugs and the effect they had on his life it could be widely received almost as high as TPAB. I feel in a lot of ways Kendrick is just Em if Em made albums about deeper stuff
>I genuinely think if he made a concept version of Relapse Isn't Relapse already a concept album though?
Eh. I mean a more serious one where he's talking more realistically about drugs and doesn't have songs where he just goes 'yes I rape women' but more of what Kendrick does and cole to some extent. Like a really serious drug album I mean.
I detest his overuse of "get it" and "haha" adlibs, I'm not one to care TOO much about corny lines but if they're followed by one of those adlibs it becomes 100x worse.
I personally don't mind them I even like them in songs like The Ringer
I feel like they acc fit on the ringer. Other ones they feel forced or he’s doing it just because he can
It adds personality tho, it’s his style now
He's dragging his feet and messing up my life plan. I really thought he'd be my ex-husband by now. Not even one song about killing me on his last album.
His beard is stupid and looks like Stan marsh from south park rubbing mud on his face
He too good.
I dont like when hes rapping fast
So true.
Why
Idk, its just a cool thing once every 100th time, like in rap god. That was pretty cool but it gets tireing. Plus it overshadows his other abilities. Most People that Arent stans remember him for his fast rapping, neglecting his wordplay and storytelling
The worst thing about Eminem is the active people in this sub. You ruin his reputation.
He’s become what he used to make fun of.
What do you mean?
He’s so bothered by critics, other people, and stuff he would’ve used to just ignore. Like, he cared enough to beef with MGK? Don’t get me wrong, his music sounds like fermenting trash, but classic Eminem wouldn’t have bothered. Though, him becoming far more inclusive is an improvement over his young self, so there’s obviously that.
He's just playing with the ladies. They know he loves them.
He didn't released Relapse 2
His inconsistent dropping of albums
He is awful at promoting the artists under his own label. Seriously, Boogie and Grip are both amazing, but they’re being killed by the disease that is shady records. I’m also really scared for EZ Mil, he’s a young artist with so much potential (seriously I could see him being Kendrick level one day) but signing with shady records is always a bad choice.
The highs are extremely high, but the lows are extremely low
What he did to Kim is way worse than what Kim did to him
If he was was black, he woulda sold half He ain’t have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that
His dick is too big
a song losing it's vibe cus he jumps in with his angry flow
To many corny lyrics.
I just don't agree with him politically
What does he say politically?
Fuckin *equality*
And they aren’t for equality?
He's a Democrat Joe Biden supporter
No, fk you! lol
He's aging
He wasted 6 million dollars wiping his ass.
Let me go in real quick: Bro has run out of shit to rap about but still thinks he needs shit to rap about. Godzilla was great, Rap God was great, neither of them were about beef. They were just fun. When he rapped about the media in The Ringer I was like, "when the fuck is the last time the media talked shit about Em?" Eminem has no opps and that's a good thing. He should rap about that. The best thing that could have happened to Em was being placed at 5th GOAT and all these dude's coming out saying he can't be the best because he's white. It gave him shit to rap about.
The media is journalists and they all trashed Revival. Hell, they haven't cared for a lot of his post Recovery work. They openly acknowledge sometimes they hate that he's won the war against them, because despite how much they talk about him losing it, his stuff still sells, still gets views and fans love it.
I mean they did send secret service to his house after the BET cypher
The fans
The Stans
[удалено]
Kendrick made a record with Taylor swift
Fine you forced me to do [this.](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQxWg92Ux4&si=kzwukvmoAXhtRGhs)
Homophobia, but in the early 2000s times were different.
You can't expect everybody to like the idea of men fuckin
I don't think he actually disliked gay people lol, it was all about the controversy and said things you only joke about with your friends inside your living room
He's a multimillionaire recording artist and some of his recent music sounds ghetto as hell. Like a 6th grader mixed it on an iMac or someone just downloaded a beat from a free app. Just unprofessional.
No
His face looks artificial lol
No New music
sold his soul
Not just that, he sold it to the devil and he’ll never get it back
If he could go back, he never would have rapped.
Honestly its fuckin crazy, because all he wanted to do was give Hailie the life he never had.
Honestly, he used “mumble rap” as a scapegoat for any problems Revival had, and it’s not a good scapegoat for anyone who was paying attention to Hip Hop at the time. Guys like Joey Badass, Kendrick Lamar, Jay-Z, XXXTentacion and Big Sean (I’d even throw J Cole and Ab-Soul in since they dropped at the very end of December 2016) all dropped albums that year that did fine commercially and didn’t have nearly the amount of criticism that Revival had. People were pretty upfront about what they disliked about Revival, and most of the hate was towards the pop features. Em even acknowledged this on the Chloraseptic remix, but afterwards he just acted like that had nothing to do with the hate towards the album. As much as I like Kamikaze, blaming Lil Yachty, Lil Pump and Lil Xan, who were ALL falling off at the time, for your album being criticized is kind of a ridiculous notion when you think about it.
His music def went downhill when he got sober
Misogyny and homophobia Also, he never tried to push D12 much. Sure, they made two fire albums he put a lot into, but he never made any serious attempt at pushing any of the members. Where was the Eminem produced Kuniva solo album, where were the features by single members on Em albums, where were any attempts at linking guys with other artists? Swift hopping on a track with Cypress Hill coulda been a great fit and a huge look for him, for example
The homophobia was just a front he didn't actually believe in what he was saying, he just liked pissing people off at that time lol
The misogyny and homophobia is self referential. This is where his biggest subliminals are. Listen to the beats and how the melodies fall apart. His voice is full of anguish. He hates this side of himself. He's saying how unhappy it makes him. He hates that the fanslove it up and can't see what he's really saying. Yeah, he said those things. He was occupying a version of himself that is broken and powerless and full of lies, stuck in the past. You are welcome.
Kinda used some people as stepping stones
[The ruling is....](https://images.app.goo.gl/nsmQYfxRWFysr5R47)
Kim?
He's sooooo overrated
He’s too private, like I get you like to be left alone, but do something other than just staying inside all day
All he does is read the dictionary and stay inside
Hes like top 5 - top 10 in every category of rap, like flow and storytelling and stuff, but never Nr 1 in any
i agree for the most part but i’d say he’s the best at possibly freestyling (wayne is like right behind him) and maybe technical ability. by that i mean purely stuff like rhyme schemes, breath control, flow execution, etc
He CAN'T sing
Shut your stupid mouth.
I think it was a Hailie's Song reference lol
i know that this sub loves his new music, but it’s hust unlistenable to me. especially mtbmb, i would rather listen to encore that’s the bad thing, his new music
Let me put it this way... "You can take the boy outta the white trash, but you can't take the white trash outta the boy..."
His political leanings have turned terrible and it greatly effects the respect I had for him. He used to not give a fuck and insult whoever was stupid, now he says if you don’t like Biden to fuck off…kinda like he is a puppet with a message tbh
This is 👍. I agree.
He looks corny at 50years of age flipping the bird to the cameras
His beards weird
No drop since TOO MANY TIME
i think that he’s gotten better in terms of like his rapping technically and everything, in fact in that sense i dont think anybody is better than him. BUT, but he needs better concepts for records and his beats are okay but all sound too similar and boring. i think he should also make a concept album, but like a deep concept album, one that would fit him, yk.
He’s so good that he’s so bad
Paul Rosenberg
His beard is weird
How he only makes one song with newly signed artists, we have so much great music and potentially full feature albums to be made, like 2 artists collaborating on 1 full album, I want that, with Grip, Conway, Kendrick, or another Bad Meets Evil and others that I can’t think of right now
Why did he call NF 'NF ing clone of him' :( I believe he didn't have to
He can be so annoying
He has a small penis
He should shut up about politics
He ‘s a criminal
He needs to stop making songs about chicks/love songs.
He cheated on Kim a ton and got pissed when she cheated
That he let certain rappers diss him and get away with it , The young Em would’ve slayed anyone who opposed him
Seemed to get off on humiliating Kim and likely would still be doing it if it wasn't for their daughters. You can tell he misses using her name as a punching bag.
Really? What makes you think he misses that?
What?
his use of gay slurs is too much Edit: phrasing
Sometimes he puts too much stuff on his albums. Like the mmlp2 was a solid B+ album but man that’s like a hour and 40 minutes long
Releases disgusting overpriced sauce instead of new music