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Aspire29112000

What’s even better is that there are a shit tonne of legal communist parties that exist and even hold office in India such as the CPI(M) and the CPI(ML) currently. The tankie doesn’t know what they’re talking about.


WattledBadge069

What a suprise


Nutvillage

Same thing happened with China. They just call it socialism with Chinese characteristics


McLarenMP4-27

To illustrate the point, our GDP per capita was USD$ 304 at the time of liberalization in 1991. In 2022 it was $2,389. [Source](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/IND/india/gdp-per-capita).


Kirxas

Funny how you can change India for any other country in the planet that dropped communism and it still applies


DanPowah

India knew when it was time for the INC to go. They had outstayed their welcome after 3 generations of rule from the Nehru-Gandhi family and Indira Gandhi's authoritarian rule


Independent-Ice-1656

Yup! It was time for a nationalist government. Fuck the commies.


BriarHeart10

Indian, Communism has destroyed my home state, West Bengal. It was once one of the best performing states post Independence and then after 34 years of communism, we rank in the bottom on pretty much every parameter. Fun fact about India - one of the largest terrorist group operating in the country is a communist one (The Naxalites).


Living_Diamond5964

Wait but I heard that West Bengal has a lot of resources to build great industries. Sorry I don't know alot about Indians politicals.


BriarHeart10

It had. It arguably has the most fertile land in the Indo-Gangetic plain, yet Agriculture is not a booming industry. Post Independence, it had a huge chunk of the Jute mills and so could have been really helpful for growth. But The communist governments in West Bengal have tried to throw roadblocks whenever any sort of new ideas were implemented, or tried to be implemented. The notoriously famous CM of West Bengal, Jyoti Basu once opposed Introduction of Computers to schools and offices, saying it will take away jobs of people, eventually they relented, but it was too late. Same with the introduction of English Medium schools. Industrialists were beaten in the middle of the street and made to walk to their homes naked. So most of them just went away. https://thefederal.com/states/east/west-bengal/from-opposing-computers-to-digital-push-cpim-has-come-a-long-way/ https://www.deccanherald.com/india/computer-shy-cpi-m-now-logs-on-to-facebook-112922.html https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1482713299896926209 https://kreately.in/how-communist-destroyed-a-vibrant-west-bengal-part-1/ The communists (CPIM) also were actively pro union, whose demands were ridiculous at times and there would be strikes (bandhs in Bengali) almost every month. Next they popularised political violence. The infamous Sain Bari Murders was a good example of how they established control of the state incredibly effectively, so much so that their successors the TMC have kept the tradition going. Oh, it sometimes happens at College/University level politics as well. Their demise ironically came about when they tried to industrialise by grabbing lands of farmers to set up a car manufacturing unit of the Tata Motors in Singur, which further drove away Industries. And that trend has continued since. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainbari_murder https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marichjhapi_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanoor_massacre#:~:text=Nanoor%20massacre%20refers%20to%20the,%2C%20on%20July%2027%2C%202000. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandigram_violence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano_Singur_controversy


BriarHeart10

There is another Communist ruled state in India, Kerala. Recently there was a report of a student who was beaten up and starved until he unalived himself. The communist cadres who were responsible filed a sexual harrasment case against the student to pin the blame on him. The government is now trying to cover up the whole issue. https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2024/Mar/05/sad-bad-mad-kerala-mob-trial-case-shows-need-for-reforms


Living_Diamond5964

Sorry to hear that.


BriarHeart10

Do read up on the violence during the communists reign. The Sain Bari Murders are bone chilling tbh


Independent-Ice-1656

Yeah! I live in Kerala and the news was so heartbreaking. The fucking commies still claim to have no part in it. I am afraid for my family's life nowadays. My father is in a union in his workplace that supports BJP and he is quite active in it. He says that the commies' days are over and they won't be elected again but I believe that a desperate animal is even more dangerous. The police are full of commie loyalists and I dunno.... I just got a bad feeling about this.


[deleted]

Thailand may have problems about politics (nothing to do with America), but it surely isn’t a sinkhole. Thailand has many tourist attractions and nice culture. I’m saying this as a Thai person.


SensitiveAsshole4

Yeah for emerging market standard none of these countries are the worst of the "shitholes" at all, actually some of the better and more stable ones out there, see Myanmar for one of the worse ones example (not to hate on Myanmar)


FactBackground9289

how did Myanmar fuck itself up with all that heritage and culture?...


kanthefuckingasian

Thailand is actually classified as a developed nation by UN’s development metric and is an advanced economy, and is projected to be on the same par as EU average in term of development within 15 years


Inevitable-Jeweler26

Thailand is such a shithole that almost 20 percent of the whole country's economy is people coming there for a vacation lol


Niskoshi

Thailand is economically superior to most SEA nations, I don't know what stats the commie was even pulling from. Hell in Vietnam the "Made in Thailand" tag is always paired with high quality.


bobthetrucker

You have beautiful ladyboys like me, I’m getting my surgeries in your country. I love Thailand!


[deleted]

The medical industry in Thailand is overlooked by a lot of folk, it's just stupid high quality for the lower prices compared to Western countries. Hope your surgeries go well. 🫡


FoldAdministrative14

We israelis actually realllyyy love Thailand,


Unfieldedmarshall

Philippines killing all the commies is rich. _We still get fucking communists in Colleges recruiting Students to fight the government in the jungles and mountains in the longest Insurgency thanks to them._ Screw that Spanish Commie.


Federal_Youth_2932

As a Spaniard, I deeply regret the fact that this man lives in our country. Spanish people love and respect Pinoy culture, history, monuments, food and language. We will try to deport him and see if we can send him to lick Putin’s butt. Sincerely, A Spaniard. Magandang araw


[deleted]

>We will try to deport him and see if we can send him to lick Putin’s butt. I wish this is what happened with every tankie that spout out about how much they hate the West.


FactBackground9289

Putin's more of a fascist, honestly, and i think the bunker fatso would just send him to the Chernyy Delfin.


Viscount-Von-Solt

Yeah. I was applying for this great college, but my mother was worried because there was news of one or some of its graduates were NPA.


Intrepid_Lynx3608

Or hey, if he’s so brave and wanting to start his own resistance against the real fascists and genocidal imperialists, send him back in time to the Japanese occupation. Let’s see if he’d be willing to fight with the resistance and eventual combined American-Filipino force.


levywhy

Too much stereotype in the post, Philippines suffered corruption due to old cultural values dating back to the colonial periods


[deleted]

as a filipino-american, I gotta say, from what I hear from my relatives, the philippines is not without fault, but definitely not a shithole also isn’t india allied with daddy russia?


HeirAscend

India is one of the leaders of the non-aligned movement that specifically chose not to ally with either the US or the USSR during the Cold War. India has somewhat friendly relations with Russia because during the Bangladesh liberation war, the Pakistan side was supported by the US and the India/Bangladesh side was supported by the USSR (just another proxy war in the Cold War). However, India is still officially non-aligned and doesn’t have that much communist influence in its government (except for certain states). Indians also immigrate much more to the US than Russia. Overall, I wouldn’t say India is as close to the US as some Asian countries (like Japan or even the Philippines), but they aren’t exactly allied with Russia either. The extent of their relationship is that both countries are in BRICS, but BRICS also has China and China is basically an enemy to India so that doesn’t say too much.


Independent-Fly6068

India is a major power within itself, but it only really bought oil and weapons from Russia. It's still broadly aligned with the US on topics like China.


levywhy

Yea, weFilipinos need self realization that rejection of past norms/tradition (lateness,patronage etc) is a must and we have to rebuild filipino thinking/norms


[deleted]

the filipino culture is great for a so-called “shithole” as OOP describes


Real-Fix-8444

As a Filipino. This is why I always opposed colonialism, even if it’s done by those quote Western “Democracy” Countries, our whole political system is mess


Independent-Fly6068

RAHHHHHHH DISTANT LATINOS RAHHHHHHH


Suspicious_Trash_805

Too much to be xenophobia, straight up racism, stereotypes and good old fashioned white chauvinism


PHLurker69nice

+orientalism


bunnyjerky

Couldn’t agree for more


FN7307

As a Thai person, I'm glad we didn't descend into communist commune shithole like Pol Pot's Cambodia or Mao's China and destroy the economy and our beautiful culture. In fact, Thailand accepted massive influx of refugee from China during its civil war. It would be mad to accept commie like that.


SilverWarrior559

Were those Chinese anti-communists or were against the communists in the Civil War?


uncapableguy42069

>Backwards >Some of the more progressive South East Asian countries >???


Charn_Q

Hey, from Thailand here, we are pretty much very progressive toward LGBT marriage and LGBT healthcare, but almost everyone over 50 will turn full blown far-right once someone mentioned about monarchy. ;) Still, the meme is somewhat inaccurate because I don't think aligning ourselves with China or Soviet Union/Russia will land us in better position, examples, Laos and Cambodia.


Inevitable-Jeweler26

Your country was very smart to ally itself with the west! Countries allied who allied with China and Russia - North Korea, Laos, Myanmar, Syria, Cambodia, Iran Countries who allied with the west - South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand


imbadplsstop

Calling these countries as shitholes are insane. Maybe add Russia, Belarus, Cuba, and North Korea instead of these countries and maybe I'll believe you.


FactBackground9289

Out of the four, only Belarus is not really a shithole, and that's because of the legacy of USSR and Poland, imo.


TaipeiMinerva

India will be outpacing China in the future.


Parchokhalq

india literally landed on the moon recently so no india is not backwards neither are any of these countries


waffenwolf

The only country in the world that comes close to this description is Somalia. 


FactBackground9289

Or Yemen


IshyTheLegit

If India killed all commies why are they still suffering terrorist attacks


asion611

> India Do they forget the relationship between Soviet and Indi


FCMacbeth39

Of the four countries featured in this post, I've only visited Thailand on two occasions. And on those two occasions, it's hardly a shit hole (for reference, I've been to Hatyai and Bangkok during my family vacation).


Beneficial-Monk-7936

A European calling Asians backwards- if this wasn't a commie they'd cry racism.


FactBackground9289

Thailand - Not a shithole. Flourishing from tourism and it's vast wood resources. Indonesia - def not a shithole, is one of best ASEAN countries to live in. India - Doubt, India started slowly solving it's poverty problems since 2010s. Philippines - literally considered one of best Asian countries to live in. My conclusion: none of them are shitholes, lol


iaann03

Philippines is a good country but still has shitty governance


FactBackground9289

I don't recall the Philippines having a bad government - They are a almost-perfect democracy.


Snoo_78739

Ooo no... Lot of political machines. And the head honcho (Marcos) has family history...


iaann03

Idk if it's a satire but I'm actually a Filipino Born and raised. When Duterte was elected, the extra-judicial killings was skyrocketed, Most of Activists was either red tagged or killed and during his administration (Ironic since he claimed during his campaign that he would be the first Leftist President but turned into fascist once he become leader). Also in his administration, his politicians are the one who denied the legislative franchise for ABS-CBN that paralised Philippine Media and lost jobs due to retrenchment. When Marcos Jr. became President, nothing changed, Government is still corrupt, the cost of living skyrocketed, he didn't do anything than travelling overseas and nothing happens once he came back. Philippines is not a "Almost-perfect democracy" it's a "Flawed Democracy"


Independent-Ice-1656

We started solving our poverty since BJP came to power in 2009


Ok_Mode_7654

Wasn’t India allied with the Soviets after independence


BriarHeart10

Not really, India tried to stay neutral but had close ties to Soviets because of the US helping Pakistan during the 1971 (Bangladesh Liberation) war. Also one of the reasons why Israel, a pro US ally sided with India during the war, providing Intel and Military aide, and has maintained friendly relations regarding Military Technology sharing ever since.


hemang_verma

But India never killed its commies on the scale as the other nations. We never got the chance to.


Independent-Ice-1656

That is such a shame, isn't it? We have to petition the central government to government to ban and hunt down the commies. We have more than enough reason to. Have you heard about the attacks on the governor or the torture and death of a student by the commies in Kerala?


Avionic7779x

Ah yes, India. The famous American ally in the Cold War.


SilverWarrior559

India had close ties with the USSR but was never aligned with them


eeeeeeeeeee6u2

some of the only non western countries i have been to or want to go to!


Purple-ork-boyz

Thai is good, love their transport infrastructure


alphachupapi02

Philippines still horrible because of these closeted commie retards


RTSBasebuilder

I see we have left Singapore.


The_Grizzly-

To many of these countries (in Asia) it’s either, ally with the US or be invaded by China.


MrG00SEI

Very cool! Now let's see Japan and South Korea


PHLurker69nice

Indonesia literally has a Chinese funded high speed rail line and a fairly strong military lol Edit: ah yes, a Spaniard AND tankie lambasting the PH 🤣


bruhmp44

Thailand is not backwards lol. Neither is the Philippines or Indonesia


Tokidoki_Haru

Last I checked, Thailand is one of the leading makers of mid-tier semiconductors. The ones that go into cars. Not exactly a shithole if you ask me.


kanthefuckingasian

Thailand is actually classified as a developed nation by UN’s development metric and is an advanced economy, as per UN’s definition, and is projected to be on the same par as EU average in term of development within 15 years.


Mperrier1234

Why did Philippines get lumped in there? The most backwards places should be North Korea, Eritrea, Afghanistan and the like. We’re a fairly stable, but flawed Liberal Democracy in comparison to those shitholes.


tubbablub

Very nice, now let’s see Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, West Germany, and Chile.


[deleted]

Achieve national liberation Kill all the capitalists Khmer Rouge


Brick-Thrower

Thailand’s doing just fine, what’s that tankie on about?


Kronod1le

I wish the second point was true for India, but it simply isn't.


Independent-Ice-1656

Me too bro, me too🇮🇳


let-me-beee

Holy fuck, maybe the top most uneducated blurts I have seen, ever.


HighGeneral

aint no way indonesia, one of the founders of the non-aligned movement during the cold war, was an "ally of the US"💀


SilverWarrior559

Many Tankies see anyone that's not a communist A enemy of communism


iaann03

Everything is gangsta till Jollibee do the reverse colonisation in spain


RefrigeratorDizzy738

Besides everything else wrong with this line of reasoning, it requires a big stretch of mental gymnastics to define India as a U.S. ally.


HateradeVintner

Who TF thinks Costa Rica is a backwards shithole?


Fallacy_Destroyer

Pretty sure that's the flag of Thailand.


Inevitable-Jeweler26

The weird thing is, Thailand ia far more developed than its dirty little communist brother Laos . Average person in Laos make 4 grand a year


cia_throwaway123

But who did Thailand get "liberated" from, exactly? They were never a colony.


Drippy_Doge

Is this dumbo for real? The NPA is still here in the Philippines, [extorting from](https://businessmirror.com.ph/2017/04/03/mindanao-banana-farmers-seek-more-government-protection-from-npa/), [slaughtering](https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/05/22/news/top-stories/npa-rebels-kill-farmers/263579) [farmers ](https://www.philstar.com/nation/2021/12/26/2150100/farmer-slain-npa-rebels-negros-town/amp/)and innocents, and [taking their land](https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1022388) [and equipment](https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1148697). Hell, they even have some ["activist" groups here pretending to campaign for human rights](https://manilastandard.net/news/national/314217580/ex-rebels-vote-for-kabag-party-list-bloc-is-vote-for-reds.html) that are recruiting students to die in the mountains for their silly cause. (Also ironically they even have a [women's rights group](https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1169850) while [rape of female cadres are commonplace in their ranks](https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1169897).)


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