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Comfortable_Fill9081

Some, like, 14 year old boy knows a bit of trivia?  Extraordinary!!


EricUtd1878

I could rhyme off the turbo i/o diameters of every single articulated lorry (or 'waggon' as they are known to 14yr old farmers) we drove past on the way to auction! I was a nerd, not a fucking genius! 🤣


tomatoesaucebread

I could give you so many facts about sharks when I was a kid lol was a total nerd as well


ButthealedInTheFeels

I knew pretty much every dinosaur and every kind of cloud and shit when i was a little kid.


Questioning-Zyxxel

My teacher was angry because I arrived late to a written test and clearly told me I would not get any extra time. I got angry enough myself that I ended up writing multiple paragraphs word-for-word from the school book. The teacher obviously got upset again since I must have cheated - until I repeated the same paragraphs once more. The human brain can be quite good at remembering things we find interesting. There is a reason musician's can learn many thousands of songs. Or a computer programmer may learn the parameters and error codes for a huge amount of OS function calls. Or a chess player knows a huge number of moves. Or some people learns a huge number of players, stats and game results for their favourite team. 9-15 is probably a rather usual age for children to get some more or less peculiar interest and decide to learn a lot about that subject. Nothing strange. And not genius. Nerd might be a better word. The brain is a great sponge if we spend some time letting it soak up information.


ThePhoneBook

Not all brains work like that, but yeah, many do. A lot of clever people meanwhile have fairly mediocre memories lol.


Questioning-Zyxxel

We are not all designed the same. But memory can be trained. A person can't just start to memorise music, because a beginner will need to learn note by note. But after learning enough music theory, the brain will see patterns. And can suddenly memorise sequences of patterns. Until I was 15, I could remember numbers like crazy. Now? Oops - I can't. Because my focus has changed. It doesn't help me to know 1000 peoples phone numbers. The phone book in the phone works quite well for that task. I'm now very good at remembering details of requirements specifications. And remembering source code. The more you remember, the bigger "scaffolding" you build in the brain to allow you to remember more things of the same type. So some people are crazy good at remember names. Some are specialists at remembering faces. Some remembers bird songs. Some learns new languages at a scary pace. Outside of the areas we have trained our brains, things may be forgotten very quickly. We don't have the required structure where to "hang" that information. But that also means some people never ever challenges their own brains. The outcome is similar to the people who never ever uses their muscles. So the difference between people is way bigger than just the variance from different biological limits. And that's where the "nerd" part comes in. The decision to actually focus on learning something. And learning a lot.


Past-Direction9145

I'm a published writer and can chime in here. While I can't make music, there are certainly patterns and cadences that make picking the right words help the reader along with their imagination. picking the wrong words doesn't read right, people stumble over it, or have to re-read the sentence. some people hate writing, particularly re-writing. I can basically do it forever. my last sci fi series didn't get published until a friend flew in, sat on me, and made me click the publish button, essentially. I worked on it for five years, got it edited multiple times, paid all that, got all the cover art sorted out, fonts licensed, size, paper, everything. aaand it just sat there lol I'm not sure about music, but books are like ships. never completed... merely abandoned. :)


ThePhoneBook

Not really, some people really try very hard and don't have brains that can memorise lots of specific details. We don't even know how memory works, so it would be weird to assume all our brains manage the same way. If a person's brain has the capacity, it is reasonable to hypothesise that the capacity needs to be honed somehow, as you've described, since that's what most people seem to experience.


Questioning-Zyxxel

I already mentioned we have different abilities. No reason to post that as a counter argument. We do know quite a bit about how memory works. It is quite well known that you can train the brain to learn specific patterns and it then becomes better at learning more similar patterns. While it still is challenging to memorise different types of information that does not fit this pattern structure. This is similar to how we know that the brain learns what features are important in faces. Which is why white people can think lots of Asians looks the same. And Asians are challenged by white people looki g similar. Because the important markers are different. Same with language. A person born in one country will train what sounds are important when recognize speech. But will be challenged by foreign languages, thinking words sounds exactly the same because of sounds that wasn't important in the original language. Our brain is an inference engine. And it identifies or memorises based on earlier training. Which means you can see large differences in memory between twins that did grow up separated. Not by biology, but by differences in training. https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2011/aug/15/people-other-races-look-alike


ThePhoneBook

No don't do that techbro thing where you confuse psychology and neurology and assume that neurology = modelling brain basically like an artifical neural network = solved problem (and for some reason need all people who do this end up giving examples related to race, though at least this example isn't too racist lol). We can conclude that memory has particular features. We know very little about the underlying biological processes, i.e. we *don't* know how memory works. To say "our brain is an inference engine" is just psychobabble. ETA you're literally talking to someone who has no memory of faces and in fact *no visual memory at all*, something experienced by maybe 3% of people. To "remember" a face, I have to study it and make a mental note of descriptions of the features. Yet I can function perfectly well, have a reasonable set of STEMmy qualifications and work experience, etc. But it's without *seeing* anything unless it's right in front of my fucking face. If our memories were so general, picture data is just another type of data, so why can't I store it? It's not a matter of practice, either. I have no mind's eye, yet I've been using my eyes all my life. Yet I *can* dream, although I expect my dreams are more nonsense than average.


Questioning-Zyxxel

We do not need to know how the atims and electrons behave in the brain. We *do* know that the brain is better at remembering types of patterns you are training it on. Is that a too complex subject for you to grasp? That is why we are better at remembering faces of the same race. Or are better at separating language sounds of our native language. Or why a musician is way better at remembering music. It is very, very much a question of practice. You know that people competing in memory challenges trains every day? Why? Because that strengthens the relevant scaffolding for that type of memory. And why do you make a nonsense claim about faces? The relevant part to memory here is to know what to look for. And what is relevant to remember. The scaffolding works as data compression. The training as we are growing up is what specific angles and features that are good separators between different faces. And that differs depending on race. So it takes training. Not magically different biological brains. A white person born in Asia with just Asian people around them will have problems with Afro-american or Caucasian faces. Because of lack of training. A person with a native language that makes little use of intonation will be seriously challenged by a language that puts a large focus on intonation. Not because of lacking brain capacity. But not growing up training the relevant inference rules. And the inference rules you did not get when small can be extremely hard to build up later. A child can grow up in a family talking three languages and learn all three perfectly. A grown-up can move to a different country and 30 years later still fail to sound like a native. Most of our capabilities are trained when we are young. You think knowing scales, signatures etc aren't affecting how hard it is to learn music? Past knowledge really do matter for how hard it is to learn more on the same subject. That's a hard reality. Not something the scientists are doubting. The failure to recognize faces? Prosopagnosia can come from not learning the relevant rules when young. Or from a brain damage in that part of the brain. Multiple reasons possible. But that is not evidence that we aren't training our brains to remember things. And that we get better and better to remember more of the same type of information. Study linguistics for 10 years, and you will be extremely much better at remembering differences between languages than you are now.


ThePhoneBook

Christ, you type a lot and say very little. Memories of similar patterns are optimised like "data compression"? Stop talking about neurology like a techbro, i.e. where you name something you understand and make an assumption it must be like the thing you don't understand. Only NotEnoughMuskSpam gets to do that here. Not being able to see faces or remember images isn't from "not learning the relevant rules" like the brain is some basic bitch silicon computer and some kids just can't be arsed to self modify their code. It is not clearly understood why some people can't do this, though we can see certain differences in areas of brain activation to confirm the brain isnt just some magic generalised pattern matcher like you imagine. You're pulling ideas out of your arse, which is fine as a thought exercise to compare with reality, but not if youre trying to teach someone else. I'm unfollowing, cos I think you're just doubling down out of ego. Have a nice day.


ReallyGlycon

I could listen to any album or song, even if I'd never heard it before, and tell you the exact year it was made by things like tape hiss and production technique. Songs after 2010 it's harder to tell.


glaciator12

I was a space nerd when I was 14. Now give me 200 billion dollars!


Historical_Grab_7842

Right? Reading the encyclopedia set is an accomplishment but it's far from an extremely rare thing. My won brother completed his first set by about 8 yo. I know others that have read it as well. Also, reading it doesn't mean he either retained it or understood any of it. And it's clear from his current behaviour that he's way more interested in receiving acolades fro an accomplishment than actually achieving it.


Staalone

That's well above average for that family


bam1007

“Did you know the human head weighs 8 pounds?”


Comfortable_Fill9081

I mean, isn’t this *every* 14 year old boy?


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maazatreddit

Bragging about reading an encyclopedia is such a red flag. They desperately need a way to make people think that they're smart but this is the best they could come up with.


I-Pacer

Yeah it’s like claiming you read the phone book so now you know everyone in your district.


maazatreddit

I have 10,000 friends on facebook, I am very popular.


Historical_Grab_7842

Great analogy.


archangelst95

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Not_Bears

I always think about the movie dodgeball where Ben Stiller's reading the dictionary to try and look smart.


_fFringe_

I mean, before the internet it was quite commonplace to read encyclopedias. It would be like bragging that you read Wikipedia.


MNfarmboyinNM

I read encyclopedias. We didn’t have anything else


Inannareborn

Knowing Elon's tendency to be an insufferable d bag and barge into everyone's business, it probably was more like: ​ Elon: Look at the moon Cousin: Yeah... Elon: You probably think it's a million miles away huh? Cousin: No. Elon: It isn't, it's 239.000 miles away depending on the orbit Cousin: Mom, can we go home?


hanskazan777

I'm crying from laughter.


moderatefairgood

![gif](giphy|xThtar0e9kO3WkwQ1O|downsized)


-lukeworldwalker-

Elon Musk was born in 1971. So he was a “kid” from 1971-1989. South Africa went through metrication in the 1960s. Why would Elon Musk argue with another kid about the distance to the moon in miles in the 70s or 80s in South Africa, which was well metrified by then. At least get these details right, if you make shit up. (We do sometimes use miles in everyday speech as a figure of speech. Like “this feels miles away” etc. But certainly no one would use miles over kilometers when discussing scientific matters in ZA.)


MBCpy

Probably more proof this is either Elon or some dumbo American making this up. Elons lived in the USA for years so would speak in terms of miles.


Hashmob____________

😭😭😭 naw this is crazy.


reddit_despiser

Maybe he was just too stupid to do the conversion.


imbadatusernames_47

I mean I fucking hate the man but couldn’t they have just had an outdated encyclopedia set?


DisgracefulPengu

To be fair “a million miles away” wasn’t necessarily a scientific conversation (and therefore a potentially reasonable figure of speech), and replying in the same unit does make sense when correcting someone.


LevianMcBirdo

No no, they of course said it in km. Makes total sense that the other kid said "the moon is 1 609 000 km away"


ErebosGR

His family were Canadian and migrated to South Africa. That's probably why they would still use imperial units when talking to each other.


-lukeworldwalker-

The grandfather that migrated from Canada to South Africa was part of technocratic movement. They were weird people, but as technocrats were champions of the metric system.


Hullfire00

By the age of eight, I could tell you all the capitals of the countries of the world and match the flags to them. Unless he was 2 when this anecdote occurred, it’s a pretty unspectacular feat to be recounting what is essentially 5th grade science content.


Desperate_Scale_2623

Right. There are real child prodigies who like show up to their first day at Harvard at age 14 with a homemade argon laser and shit. this is just average nerdy child behavior.


ElHumilde13

I could play Fur Elise and Habanera by 10. I'm clearly no genius, but know playing those 2 melodies on piano takes more "genius" than reading and knowing some facts


Ellavemia

Reading the encyclopedia is not a feat. That’s just what we did for entertainment back then before modern video games, computers and smartphones.


Equivalent_Passage95

I always just assumed it’s what weird kids like me did in school cause we were understimulated


remove_krokodil

I read dictionaries when I was a teen.


caynebyron

I used to jam hard on Encarta '95.


ErebosGR

>Encarta '95 I think I still have the pirated CD somewhere. [The Way Things Work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Things_Work) was my jam. Got the book and then got the CD-ROM, at different birthdays.


talltime

Going to have to get that for the kids. Thanks.


dootdootboot3

Now people just binge read wikipedia


Apoordm

MUMMY THINKS IM A SPECIAL BOY!


Rogue-13DC

Odds are yes. Didn’t get any results doing reverse image searches of it. Which begs the question who else would be in possession of a photo not readily available on the internet.


ErebosGR

They're working for people close to Musk: Ken Howery, Bill Lee, or Jared Birchall. They try to win points with Musk for their employers. https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/16i4s5d/using_investigative_journalism_to_answer_the/


Comfortable_Exam_222

He read an entire encyclopedia and learned nothing


Ssider69

First, he didn't read a single encyclopedia, much less two of them. Second, smart people know what reference sources are for.


reddit_despiser

How long until Elon starts pushing flat earth bullshit?


remove_krokodil

Would be wild if the CEO of a rocket company believed in a flat Earth... I bet he's gonna do it.


reddit_despiser

The firmament is the reason his rockets can't make it into space.


Embarrassed_Alarm450

I mean he's already got a car company that sells alcohol so nothing is off the table at this point...


Ok_Instruction_5292

The idea that reading an encyclopedia makes you a genius, or that a sign of a genius is reading an encyclopedia, is funny


Purgii

Why would he use miles when he grew up with the metric system?


NotEnoughMuskSpam

That’s what she said


Work-Safe-Reddit4450

Dude I read the encyclopedia as a kid too because we didn't have the Internet yet and I was bored as hell. It's not some crazy thing. Some kids are just naturally curious and information sponges. I sure as hell don't consider myself some one in a billion genius because I did that. Ridiculous.


Hazeri

I read encyclopedias for fun as well, but my parents don't own an emerald mine


GarysCrispLettuce

So he was basically literate and capable of modest numerical recall. Jesus fuckin wow


AlamosAvenger

He is now an annoying asshole


maroonmenace

Sheldon's dad: The moon looks beautiful while being millions of miles away Sheldon: Actually, father, its more like 239,000 miles away. (Laugh track) Sheldon's dad finally sick of his shit rips the sink out of his wall and swings it at Sheldon Laugh track X10.


the_colonel93

What a fucking loser he must be to create alt accounts to fellate himself


TestOk8411

More proof of his being a super genius. Let us all bask in his wonder brain


junitog65

Before or after the stair toss?


settlementfires

being a pedantic little shit like that should have at least earned him an indian burn. the stair toss for making fun of that one student's father's passing was fine too.


RedneckOfFlatLands

No cousin ever said that...


Cobek

Sounds like he's always been a Buzzkillington


CyborgRaptors

Every account with the word "doge" in it is either Elmo's employee or Elmo himself.


ErebosGR

They're working for people close to Musk: Ken Howery, Bill Lee, or Jared Birchall. They try to win points with Musk for their employers. https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/16i4s5d/using_investigative_journalism_to_answer_the/


PermanentlyDubious

Probably. I don't think I have seen that picture before?


lukas_the

Don't their jaws get tired from sucking off billionaires every day of the week?


Zestyclose-Ad-8807

Twatburger looked at trivia in encyclopedia. Such a true genius.


swirlymaple

And finally, at the age of 50, his genius peaked with such profound tweets as “Why does ur pp look like u just came?“ to a United States Senator. We will never see intelligence at Musk’s scale ever again. ^thank ^god


SocialJusticeAndroid

OMG it’s true.🤦🏻‍♂️ (I googled it. I don’t know why it sounded so hard to believe.)


Forward-Bank8412

The most fragile snowflake on earth is addicted to boosting his own ego though alt accounts. It really is one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen. But what’s the end game? Convincing us he was a genius child? Does he not understand how poorly that reflects on his life’s trajectory? He’s one of the stupidest adults alive, so if he was indeed a child genius like he claims, that means he peaked in childhood!


Tekwardo

His endgame is to feel loved and important. It’ll never happen because he’s not loved and his ‘importance’ is all fake. He can’t just be super wealthy and happy.


Kindle282

It's a lot sadder if it isn't Elon's alt, to be honest. Nobody should be making posts about someone else like this. It's pathetic.


ElHumilde13

Both of his father's encyclopedias? Don't they mean "wokeypedias"?


Otherwise-Course-15

So far beyond pathetic


Phantomyy

Sounds like a conversation I could have with my niece if she knew this fact. She’s 5.


LordXenu12

Is that Elmo? Lol he didn’t age well


3RADICATE_THEM

He probably unironically thinks reading an encyclopedia makes him an expert in every subject—just like he masquerades to be an expert in all engineering subdisciplines.


Hamblerger

Oh wow, I was also an annoying little shit at that age. What a coincidence


pdx74

Yeah, but the difference is, I bet you outgrew it.


Hamblerger

I certainly hope so, but a look at my comments history on this site makes that an arguable position at best


xeno486

crazy how now he’s still a fucking annoying nerd


AugustCelestial

With all do respect, to be a nerd you have to be at least right when you are annoying. He larps being a nerd and engineer and most of the time instead of facts serves „straight from his ass data or vocabulary” without even common understanding. And I will be genuine enough to forgive him comprehension of research results interpretation. Guy thinks he is always right because no one will oppose him at his companies because fragile ego cannot be offended by someone opposing little, 50yo baby melon. He is just annoying.


xeno486

that is so valid


Burnt_Roses94

No, it’s a simple. This one isn’t Elon. This one got caught stealing other people’s posts last summer. It’s a wannabe cb\_doge.


HanakusoDays

"Depending on the orbit". Working hard even then on saying things that sound authoritative, but parse down to nothing meaningful.


Tekwardo

People that think they’re super smart tend to use all the superfluous words they can.


islandfay

So he has always been an ass


BeamTeam032

Elon grew up a dork. He's now in the cool kids club because he's a billionaire and society as quickly turned on him and he's still on the outside looking in. He wants people to like him, but he's a jerk. He could easily do a lot of things for humanity but choosing not to. Because he's a jerk. He could pay his employees a livable wage, which would force other companies to do the same. But he cares about the share holders. Elon like to pretend that he's "not like the other Billionaires" while being exactly like them.


ProfessionalTwo5476

Miles? Not 384,400 kilometers (depending on orbit)? Is there anything about Elon R. Musk that isn't fake? Musk keeps trying to rewrite history, to make him seem even more extraordinary. Next he'll steal Steve Martin's line from The Jerk: "I was born a poor black child". Perhaps he could star in the sequel: "The Cunt".


SteampunkBorg

Somehow that first sentence sounds like mother and sister are the same person. I might have just watched Hot Fuzz too often


sexi_squidward

When I was a kid, I had a math book that stated that the highest number ever recorded was a googleplex. Obviously, that is the exact amount of money my Barbies had. Therefore, I am a genius.


Violet_Potential

Oh my god this shit is so annoying. Also, how old is he in this picture? 10-13? You should know how to read by then and I think the topic of space is a fairly common interest for kids. It definitely was for me, it’s a cool subject. Doesn’t make you a genius for being interested.


LoudLloyd9

https://preview.redd.it/8p778cslo3xc1.png?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee1a00de1adf4be4f8146889bef0e50f79554986 Elmo had dreams of being the Queen of England when he was a boy.


Tekwardo

Too skinny


UltimateArsehole

"Depending on the orbit" Err...the orbit of the Moon around Earth (and vice versa) does change over massive timescales, but not to any non-trivial extent during a human lifetime. I'd expect such a genius to know that...


mayalourdes

Ok? He didn’t measure it himself.


CommenterAnon

We dont use miles in South Africa


Aggravating_Task_908

An original redditor


BrilliantAttempt4549

My 8 year old brother knew this simple trivia, so do many other children.


HatJosuke

He never developed past the annoying nerd phase


Time_Faithlessness27

This account could be my bosses account. Pretty sure the guy has a secret room with an altar dedicated to this creep.


DrLager

What do you call a nerd that’s an annoying shit that doesn’t really understand most of the things they say they do?


ProfessionalTwo5476

"No, it's like 239,000 miles, depending on orbit". If true, no wonder this little cunt got his dick kicked in the dirt on several numerous. But rather amusing is how so many posts act as it this is a true story. Next they'll believe Elon founded Tesla.


TwerkingGrimac3

Wouldn't they use kilometers in SA? Also that "nerd" bullied a kid so much that the kid snapped and pushed Musk down a flight of stairs. Elon always plays the victim even though he says people with victim mentalities are weak and undeserving of empathy. Fuck that contradiction of a POS.


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slaucsap

actually is called sodium chloride


01Alekje

Knowing his *sslickers, it could very well be one of them


dukeofgibbon

Autofellatio with extra ribs


Secondchance002

Elmo’s principal: “he’s kind of a retard”


Riko_7456

It's his mom's alt


reocares

This looks like one of Ivanka’s pictures from that age.


EmotionalPlate2367

Isn't that all Xitter has become? And Elon Musk circle jerk


CYYA

Every picture of this guy and he's smiling. Has he ever struggled? Where's his eye bags like the rest of us??


elmaki2014

![gif](giphy|l0HlR3kHtkgFbYfgQ|downsized)


DannyMinick

And I read Wikipedia bitch you ain’t special 😂


MrsDanversbottom

If he were a genius he’d have gone to an accredited university and gotten an actual engineering or physics degree.


NotEnoughMuskSpam

I would like to apologize for firing these geniuses. Their immense talent will no doubt be of great use elsewhere.


stos313

Keep in mind this is happening in apartheid South Africa


Dehnus

Wait, his mother is also his sister? OMG, ...that explains soo much.... /Jk