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Well, i just found a solution that seems to work super well using midi out, patcher, and VFX key mapper! Please tell me if you find different ideas :)
Within the piano roll in the top left there is a music note. You can click on it, set the key and scale, then it will prevent you from adding notes that are not in key.
I'd say you can't really have a music workshop with a basic discussion about scales. Feels like you're missing that point and regardless of what any one says to make themselves feel better about lack of knowledge - you do need to have some idea of basic music theory to make music
I see your point, by no means do i think that lack of knowledge is a good thing that should be celebrated
But i also think that music teaching suffers from a "Get good first, have fun later" problem. It should be the other way around in my opinion. First you have fun, and then you go learn theory because you want to have even more fun.
I never had a formal musical education, learned everything by practice & internet tutorials. I loved learning about music theory (and i still do), because i knew it helped me make better music.
I feel like starting out with theory is like these awful video game tutorials where you have to read walls of text before you can start playing. But that's just my way of seeing things :)
Seems overly restrictive. What if they need a passing note that is not in the key?
I think there is a feature where you can snap notes to a scale.
Otherwise maybe you could make your example in C major / A minor and tell them to try to only use the white keys?
This is clearly overly restrictive if you know about music theory, or at least have some experience making music. But for beginners, i think that restriction is super important.
Think about it like a tutorial for a very complicated video game. If you get access to all the mechanics right away it's overwhelming. If you have to read walls of text before you start playing it's overwhelming AND boring.
They have no idea what a passing note is. Half of them don't even know what a key is
What you want is start playing right away, and do something fun. Just punch a tree and make a wooden Pickaxe. If you needed to watch videos about the mechanics of enchanting to even start doing that, 90% of players would just give up.
Great analogy!
There is no free lunch tho. I think a modicum of music theory is good to have before you jump into VSTs and all the advanced concepts.
Maybe you can spend the first session mainly on the piano roll, using ONE stock instrument of their choice as a restriction.
Then have them experiment with the piano roll. Plenty of fun to be had right there. Show them some tricks to make a simple melody and help them understand why sticking to the white notes initially is a useful "hack". They will remember this in the next session.
I would not introduce drums until later. In the hands of a beginner they tend to make noise, not music.
Thanks for the advice!
Here's a screenshot of what we did yesterday, in about an hour. I don't think i'm allowed to share the soundclound link here though.
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https://preview.redd.it/5mx09qv333ad1.png?width=1017&format=png&auto=webp&s=b84538a774ca10ef8c3df597dbeea1faadae582a Well, i just found a solution that seems to work super well using midi out, patcher, and VFX key mapper! Please tell me if you find different ideas :)
That's a clever solution
Within the piano roll in the top left there is a music note. You can click on it, set the key and scale, then it will prevent you from adding notes that are not in key.
Thanks! I don't have the music note yet, but once i update to the newest version it should appear!
Scaler 2 has a feature like this but you'll probably be stuck using Scaler 2 sounds unless there is a way to send midi out
Scaler does have MIDI out support.
That's perfect then, I wasn't sure it could transpose it and still send it out
I'd say you can't really have a music workshop with a basic discussion about scales. Feels like you're missing that point and regardless of what any one says to make themselves feel better about lack of knowledge - you do need to have some idea of basic music theory to make music
I see your point, by no means do i think that lack of knowledge is a good thing that should be celebrated But i also think that music teaching suffers from a "Get good first, have fun later" problem. It should be the other way around in my opinion. First you have fun, and then you go learn theory because you want to have even more fun. I never had a formal musical education, learned everything by practice & internet tutorials. I loved learning about music theory (and i still do), because i knew it helped me make better music. I feel like starting out with theory is like these awful video game tutorials where you have to read walls of text before you can start playing. But that's just my way of seeing things :)
You can learn basic scales in less then an hour.
Its a secret among people who struggle with music theory but still want to learn and create . cales vst .
You can have the notes in the piano roll snap to the scale you choose, but I think that would affect the FPC too
Seems overly restrictive. What if they need a passing note that is not in the key? I think there is a feature where you can snap notes to a scale. Otherwise maybe you could make your example in C major / A minor and tell them to try to only use the white keys?
This is clearly overly restrictive if you know about music theory, or at least have some experience making music. But for beginners, i think that restriction is super important. Think about it like a tutorial for a very complicated video game. If you get access to all the mechanics right away it's overwhelming. If you have to read walls of text before you start playing it's overwhelming AND boring. They have no idea what a passing note is. Half of them don't even know what a key is What you want is start playing right away, and do something fun. Just punch a tree and make a wooden Pickaxe. If you needed to watch videos about the mechanics of enchanting to even start doing that, 90% of players would just give up.
Great analogy! There is no free lunch tho. I think a modicum of music theory is good to have before you jump into VSTs and all the advanced concepts. Maybe you can spend the first session mainly on the piano roll, using ONE stock instrument of their choice as a restriction. Then have them experiment with the piano roll. Plenty of fun to be had right there. Show them some tricks to make a simple melody and help them understand why sticking to the white notes initially is a useful "hack". They will remember this in the next session. I would not introduce drums until later. In the hands of a beginner they tend to make noise, not music.
Thanks for the advice! Here's a screenshot of what we did yesterday, in about an hour. I don't think i'm allowed to share the soundclound link here though. https://preview.redd.it/8le3xmvuh3ad1.png?width=1471&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf05f3011221513cc005ac21361a00ee6d9fae77
Looks like a lot of progress!
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This is such awful advice
Why not just stick with C major and A minor and use only white keys?