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Welcome r/BetterCallSaul fans!


MisRox79

This is my mother in law. She thinks she was born with magnets inside her that I guess interact negatively with smart phones and computers. She will only use an old flip phone and can only be by her home computer for about 15 minutes. I have no idea what happens if its longer. They have some kind of meter that shows spikes in electro magnetic whatever crap in her body. I don’t know how she exists in public.


unic0rnspaghetti

Not trying to be witty or snide, but has she been diagnosed with a mental illness? Kinda sounds like the start of paranoia


being-weird

The start? This could be full blown psychosis.


TheEeveelutionMaster

I AM NOT CRAZY!


Pug_police

I know he swapped those numbers!


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1216 one after magna carta as if i would ever forget!


MisRox79

She’s always been wacky and believes every dumb wellness theory she sees. She and my father in law also put a cut onion by the bed when they are sick.


unic0rnspaghetti

Yeah that sounds like mental illness


TOW3L13

>interact negatively with smart phones > >uses a flip phone Even without any diagnosing, this is exactly how you know it's exclusively a mental thing, not physical at all. All phones - no matter if smart or not, emit and receive exactly the same electromagnetic waves. Who is affected by smartphones - is affected exactly the same by flip phones. Who is ok with flip phones - is ok exactly the same with smart phones.


MisRox79

I know but there is no telling her that! Lol.


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TOW3L13

2G is 900 and 1800 MHz 4G is 700, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz 5G is 600, 700, 800, 900, 1500, 2100, 2300, 2600 MHz and can be switched off on all smartphones supporting 5G 3G is already turned off (phased out) in most countries So a very high chance that that 2G flip phone operates on the same frequency as a 4G smartphone. However, frequencies depend exclusively on location.


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TOW3L13

Really? Where I live 3g is no more, I thought it was the case for most countries. Sorry my mistake. Yes, a 4g phone may use a different frequency than 2g - e.g. a 4g phone can use 700MHz which 2g doesn't use at all (closest is 800MHz). But e.g. 1800MHz is used by both. That's why I said it is a high chance, not it is sure. However, what I meant in my original comment was that all phones use radio waves, not the exact frequencies.


mynanship

Mother like McGill over here


[deleted]

Gal think she Chuck


Iron_Base

It's crazy the internet has convinced idiots this deep that they tell their church about then5g waves hurting their brains


Independent-Ad-8783

but the greatest legal mind i ever knew...


Eren189

church cabeza is just around the corner


whambamthankyoumaan

Charles McGill enters the chat


[deleted]

That was so well written and acted. Psychosomatic illnesses are very real.


Untouchable-Ninja

Yea - if your brain thinks you're sick, it'll make you feel sick.


[deleted]

I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You


PlutonianSag

chicanery! i have a hard time thinking chuck would engage in any church-going though


[deleted]

idk he seems quite moral (in some parts lol) so i could see him following some sort of religion trying to live his best life


PlutonianSag

well i wouldnt equate church with morality, but i actually dont think he would, hes too much of a man of science aint he


thespiansGlamor

He was born in the 40s to what seems like a pretty traditional American family, and he has a very rigid, deontological ethical code. He seems like he'd be religious to me, and if you brought up his being a man of science, he'd probably use the standard comeback of "Einstein believed in God."


[deleted]

yeah by morality i kinda meant his code of ethics which could be applied on a 10 commandments sorta level but ig his ethics mainly are there for his benefit man of science but scared of a phone idk


PlutonianSag

tru


TOW3L13

>man of science but scared of a phone idk Being a man of science doesn't absolve you from mental issues tho.


thespiansGlamor

It should have keyed him into the fact that you can't sense the electrical current of a battery that isn't connected to anything and is still in its plastic packaging though, lol


TOW3L13

I understand that, but this is a mental issue. It's similar to fear of spiders - even if you're scientific-based, you know very well a spider in front of you isn't venomous and can't possibly hurt you in any way, you're still scared of it and won't touch it. It might help you mitigate, treat, or even cure your issue, but it doesn't guarantee you won't have the issue at all. A therapist might have an easier job with you than with someone who doesn't understand or rejects science, and you also might be more likely to seek a therapist's help (which is the first important step), but it doesn't guarantee success.


thespiansGlamor

Oh i know, i wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just making fun of Chuck a bit. I know that, even if Chuck realised that those batteries shouldn't hurt him, he'd come up with some rationalisation for why they did, and that it was mostly the shock of being publicly bested by Jimmy in "Chicanery" that caused him to seek help. I just think it is funny that he apparently never came to that realisation in the first place, even though he'd been doing all that research on EHS


TOW3L13

He wouldn't attend any church (including this one) or any other gathering like that first and foremost because even if people's phones would be turned off, they would still have batteries in them so it would still trigger his mental issue.


sha1ashaska22

Nah Chuck was mentally ill but very intelligent


Verbal-Gerbil

There’s the classic apocryphal anecdote about the company that was installing a new aerial of some sort and the townsfolk descended upon the office of the installers and tore strips off the project manager, complaining of headaches and pain and other side effects and complications caused by the mast. Calm as anything, he asked them to return with a list of symptoms the following week after he’d turned it on


Swamptor

The same thing happened with water fluoridation. They were supposed to turn on the fluoridation in January or something, but the project was delayed. Same story, a bunch of wackjobs blowing up the phones at the municipal waterworks claiming everything from headaches to teeth falling out before they had even turned it on.


Verbal-Gerbil

Haha. I wasn’t familiar with any real-life examples!


CowboyLaw

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?


gmthisfeller

Do they pass out tinfoil hats, too?


Revolutionary-Cost78

No but they may have space blankets.


Harak_June

I really want to run a controlled experiment with these people. Let's test this claim empirically. But none of them are ever willing to do it.


Squidwina

I recently saw a documentary about exactly this! It was about two brothers, both lawyers…


TOW3L13

What is this chicanery?


[deleted]

Yeah pretty good doc didn't get the stuff with the parking attendant and Mexican mob though. Couldn't they have made that into a separate doc?


[deleted]

no i thought it tied in very well at the end and it was required to understand what happens near the end i guess. but they made a whole seperate doc from the perspective of that teacher which also continues the lawyers journey huh


Swamptor

It's been done many times. They experience symptoms whether it is a real device or a fake device and don't experience symptoms when there is no device, or when there is a hidden device. The symptoms are real, it's a nocebo effect. The cause is obviously not.


[deleted]

Have someone bump into them earlier in the day, and then later, tell them to check their pocket.


TOW3L13

We need Huell


stable_maple

This has been done. I can't remember where I saw it though.


[deleted]

There's a mini-documentary about the study [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuZ34IeY_L0&ab_channel=BreakingBad%26BetterCallSaul)


stable_maple

Thanks!


kantoblight

The Church of Chuck McGill is finally a thing.


targetprairiedress

What's in your pocket Jimmy?


EarthTrash

Amazing episode. I immediately thought of this.


69RovnaSeSmich

And he gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke!


Pug_police

I should've stopped him when I had the chance!


oppkiller215

"I have an allergy Howard"


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Church of Chuck


CodeOfKonami

I deleted my comment in honor of yours.


buddahgunz

Who is this Chuck? Chuck Norris? Chucky from the movie or the cheese? No chance its Chuck Berry... he's awesome.


GastonBastardo

[Chuck McGill.](https://youtu.be/PuZ34IeY_L0)


buddahgunz

Oh that Chuck. Sorry to say, I've never called Saul. thanks


lafulusblafulus

Church of Chuck Your Brain Out the Window Before You Enter


Opossum_mypossum

Established 1216


Verried_vernacular32

I am collecting cell phones to leave under the choir stand.


koreiryuu

I'll bet not one of those pseudo-hypochondriac fucks wore a mask during COVID of their own volition, but they expect everyone else to entertain their actually made up bullshit by turning off their smartphones? Fuck them, if they want me to believe that AM and FM radio waves bombarding them 24/7 isn't affecting them but the Bluetooth and Wifi on my phone is, they can wear a full body faraday cage.


UninspiredCactus

bruhhh you fell for it! This guy fell for it!


Past_Passenger_4381

yo chuuurch


TSM-

Such a weird fake thing to think is real. I wonder why people do it. I think it is maybe because they are uncomfortable when people use phones and they don't know what they're doing, so it creates a bit of underlying anxiety. So with this they can react to other people using phones and remove that feeling of uncertainty. Not a direct inferential connection, but what else explains why it is specifically phones and not wifi or the Earth's magnetic field (which is stronger than phones), etc.?


tearsonurcheek

> Such a weird fake thing to think is real. I wonder why people do it. It's why the feds had to step in and make it illegal for local government and HOAs to use this debunked crap as justification to deny cell tower placement.


Fortunoxious

You’re on the money with underlying anxiety. A theory about internet conspiracy people is that they are struggling with anxieties around information. They try to take control of things, make the information work for them, it helps ease the pain of living in a sea of data.


PdxPhoenixActual

Because once you've gotten to believe religion, you can get them to believe ***anything***.


User_identificationZ

I doubt this applies to the choir, but there is at least 1 case of a guy that got sick when radio is aves interacted with his body. I can’t remember his name, but I think it was a Swedish or Norwegian name and the guy lived in a cabin in the woods away from civilization. Idk how credible this is because I saw in a popular science magazine about 10 years ago


TSM-

There has to be a legitimate possible mechanism for this happening, and there is no possible explanation for how cells in the body will register radio waves due to different genes and proteins. ] That said, if they had some invasive surgery replacing something in their head it might happen. There have been cases where people can hear radio signals due to dental fillings (decades ago). That is actually plausible. Radio waves do not interact with the body in a way that could be detected for a reaction, and self reports on it are almost always false. In some mental disorders like schizophrenia, innocuous things are perceived as directed at them. Two cars driving by is suspicious, two people walking dogs is them being monitored, etc. There is a tendency to misattribute causation like that. Radio waves are a natural target to have this false causation with that kind of mental illness. It also allows them to retreat away from others and feel safer, confirming the false causal attribution.


tiredofsametab

I think very old pacemakers or other implants had issues with certain older phones. AFAIK, implants now are better and mobile devices are as well. It's why Japan still displays and announces to not use mobile devices by the priority seats (though everyone does anyway, just on vibrate/silent as is manners on public transit). EDIT: I don't know if it were specifically radio waves or something else without trying to hunt down the stories.


User_identificationZ

I think it did have to do with proteins, but I’m working off of 10 year old info in my head so I could be dead wrong. I do also remember it only had an effect when the signal was strongest, such as either making or receiving a call. I look for this guy after work


TOW3L13

It's a mental thing. It's probably similar to when someone's scared of spiders, even of a spider they know very well isn't venomous.


Old-Ad4431

Go inside with your phone on silent see what happens


AMWJ

They can just occasionally remind folks to turn their phone off. Everyone will assume that *someone* had their phone on.


Old-Ad4431

Leave it on and see if the choir says anything


TOW3L13

This is purely a mental issue, so nothing. If the patient thinks the phone is turned off or thinks there's no phone, there's no reaction. I think this notice was maybe done with that in mind too - the priest (or whoever put that notice up) knows some people won't turn their phones off and doesn't really care if they will or not, but having it printed out like this makes the choir singer with this issue *think* everyone will, so they'll be calm. Same thing as when Chuck (Better Call Saul) still didn't know he has the battery in his pocket - he was calm, no reaction.


Old-Ad4431

Yeah makes sense


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ah yes “electromagnetic wave poisoning” as they claim to call it


[deleted]

I AM NOT CRAZY!


DVDN27

What is this Chicanery?


phantomfire00

I didn’t know Chuck went to church


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AmbystomaMexicanum

“Chicanery” is a constant joke in my household thanks to that scene.


Money_Tomorrow_3555

And he gets to be a choir boy? What a sick joke.


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redditjwh

"I AM NOT CRAZY!"


PranavYedlapalli

What are they? Vampires? Why are they allergic to light?


ttvfrozen12

I AM NOT CRAZY!….I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just, I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop him! You….


MisterBastian

I AM NOT CRAZY!


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OnAStarboardTack

Or lights.


tearsonurcheek

Wireless lights?


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

Don't forget the bluetooth hose.


Ten_minuteemail

Don't forget the wifi they use to transmit everything.


Pale_Chapter

I can't even tell if this is a snake-handling Charismatic kinda thing, or a maracas and kente cloth UCC kinda thing.


[deleted]

Bring a motom next time and a wi fi router. Just to fuck with them, and make sure your setup makes a ton of noise.


steelneil82

Why would god make them so feeble?


SyntheticReality42

Cell phone signals are stronger than Jesus.


_ElioPerlman

Fuck Chuck S1 E1 synopsis leaked


[deleted]

I AM NOT CRAZY


[deleted]

FUCK CHUCK


BayMinetteStoryLady

This cracks me up. At my church half the congregation reads along during the scripture reading on their phones. The pastor even says, “ take out your Bible or mobile device and follow along.”


Dickinablender96

Morons.


I_joke_about_dying

Just pray the radiation away.


Rattiom32

Kid named Chuck


CooperDaChance

McGrilled


BeanBoyBob

chuck


Aquatic6Trident

I'd suggest ignoring this request and see if someone notices


PoopyLooper

Maybe plant a fully charged battery in one of their pockets if this is even real


GingerTurtle43

That you Jimmy?


cravenj1

Huell no


GingerTurtle43

Legend says he's still drinking in New Orleans to this day.


TBone_Hary

Say what?


ThatOnePickleGuy

I am not crazy! I AM NOT CRAZY!


Gullible-Future9784

He is the Bad one


jacrispy252

WHAT A SICK JOKE


N26_real

AND HE GETS TO BE A PASTOR?


Sraffiti_G

THIS CHICANERY


EggsKrodi

Chuck? Is that you?


N26_real

Bitch I'm taking uranium with me


BobTheNobber

Just hand out space blankets with the hymnals.


phoenixrising211

Affected from the radiation emitted by so-called 'mobiles' IF THAT IS THEIR REAL NAME


antibotty

*mumbles to myself about everything in existence having electromagnetic radiation including color, heat, energy, or whatever but that's way over simplifying it and it's going to attract the attention of a Google search so someone can say technically. Mumbles. GD churches.*


bearsfan1323

Greatest Religious Mind I Ever Knew


Mega_Masquerain

I bet the church has at least 3 smoke detectors


[deleted]

Do these people not know what cell towers are ?


hammocktimeyo

You mean the Covid generators?


BurningPenguin

Damn, these things are versatile. They can do covid, haarp, chemtrail, mind control and deliver high speed internet at the same time. A real marvel of engineering.


SyntheticReality42

Don't forget about controlling the weather, too.


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That's the ones


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Last-GenRichtofen

Kid named brain-damage


CooperDaChance

McGrilled


Master_Combination74

Jimmy do you have something in your pocket?


Ashweed137

Nah just excited to see you.


salgudmangamign

chuck mcgill moment


Dry-Beginning-6322

I AM NOT CRAZY!….I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just, I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! *He* orchestrated it! Jimmy! He *defecated* through a *sunroof*! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I *thinking*? He’ll never change. He’ll *never* change! Ever since he was 9, *always* the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious *Jimmy*! Stealing them blind! And *HE* gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! And you, you *have* to stop him! You….


giantpetrel14

Chcuk Mcgill moment


Bobrossandhisfriend

Wear a space blanket


WitchwayisOut

OMG 🤦🏻‍♀️


winyf

bro think he chuck


Oyst_

I KNEW IT WAS 1216


GIBBEEEHHH

Have some more chicken, have some more pie, it doesn't matter if it's boiled or fried


w6a6t6sup

It's all part of god's plan.


Lord_Oglefore

Seems like he’d be a Verizon kind of entity


mr_toad_1997

Like, he orchestrated it?


Ophiotaurus_

Damn they should be vampires or something


mr_toad_1997

Bro thinks he Chuck


Huge_Fact2267

Chuck from better call saul


windowxylophone

You think this is bad?


[deleted]

This-this chicanrry?


acengie1234

He’s done worse!


HEXC_PNG

A man just HAPPENS to fall like that? NO


Money_Tomorrow_3555

What utter chicanery


Eris_Corn

What a sick joke


Slash_red

Yes, it does.


SometimesNocturnal

You reminded me of someone I once worked with who once who said her father was scientist in New Zealand and she said he had "proved" this. Meanwhile she sent me countless messages from her mobile and wrote the longest emails I have ever received from a human. So it was clearly ok for her to do even though she "believed" in her father's work.


idowhatiwant8675309

What is it, 1989?


XXXJAHLUIGI

1216


xKommandant

It’s their lived experience


CrookedUnicorn63

Yep! Fuck the diptarded hypochondriacs.


M1ao_wa

It's a physical reaction and response to stimuli! I think it's called electromagnetic hypersensitivity.


TheRealPaj

It's called 'bullshit'.


M1ao_wa

Kid named Better Call Saul reference


TheRealPaj

?


PacifistPapyrus

This post is being flooded by Better Call Saul fans in which the show has a character who is 'sensitive' to electrical radiation.


Yunners

Ah, now it makes sense. I wondered why this post was doing so well.


TheRealPaj

Ahh... I see. Never watched the show...


PacifistPapyrus

It's really good. Give it a go, I promise you won't turn out like all the people here spamming references.


TheRealPaj

Ah it's not my kinda thing - know a few folks who love it though.


3p1cBm4n9669

What about the cellphone towers and access points that are everywhere? Why do those not affect them if that’s a legitimate condition?


Complete-Zucchini-85

Because they don't know how any of this stuff works.


Yunners

One or two people per million claim to experience it. It's statistically very unlikely that several people in the same choir actually have it,


Squids-With-Hats

It’s also not real lmao


Yunners

>claim


WhollyDisgusting

Unless they convinced others that it's both real and that they too have it