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This family of colonizers just love terrorizing the women in their lives. I don’t care for Kate and I’m firmly on team abolish the monarchy but after hearing about how Megan was treated, I don’t buy the attempts to vilify Kate. I genuinely do hope she’s okay physically and mentally.
Richard III declared her children illegitimate to take the throne. He was their uncle and likely had her sons murdered to secure his claim. Richard III was then killed on the battlefield and Henry VII took the throne. Henry was the first Tudor king and married Elizabeth Woodville’s eldest daughter to boost his weak claim to the throne. Elizabeth Woodville was later forced to retire to a nunnery where she lived in poverty until her death.
Henry II was the worst. Aquitaine was her’s and he just wanted to milk it for its wealth. Then he blames her for their sons rebelling against him. No dude. You did that in your own.
Don’t forget Henry VIII and all he did.
Margaret Beaufort was married at 12. Her husband was told to wait. He didn’t. She almost died in childbirth with Henry VII. She became the Queen mother.
Then there’s Queen Victoria’s entire life until she took the throne.
And her poor sister Joanna (Juana la Loca) had it rough. She’s somewhat a mystery but the question is how “loca” was she, in what way, and did it truly make her unfit to rule? What’s not a mystery is that the men in her life benefited greatly from her alleged madness and Juana spent most of her life confined.
It seems all the women who marry into the family are seen as collateral for their bullshit and it's really fucking sad. Not surprising, but still just sad. I can't imagine a life like that being worth it for too long, now maybe Kate can't either. Her, Meghan, Diana, it seems all the women are thrown under the bus for the sake of the men.
Didn't Kate herself partake in Meghan's bullying? If so, and if Chuck and the Side Chick are throwing her under the bus, this is top Leopards Eating People's Faces shit.
Kate never came out to correct the rumour that Megan made her cry during her wedding preparation. She’s just complicit in letting the red tops shape Megan’s public opinion. All she had to say is, that isn’t true.
Kate can be a victim of the BRF bullshitery and at the same time be the one who perpetuates the same bullshit on others.
Exactly this!! Why do they always go after the women??? Charles was a sociopathic cheater but Diana was the one vilified everywhere she went to the point where she lost her life.
Harry is still portrayed as a poor simp who’s in the clutches of an evil American gold digger.
Now I don’t know what’s going on with William, whether he’s keeping it in his pants or not, but they’re already throwing Kate to the wolves to protect the Prince.
While I’m not a fan of hers, I hope she protects herself. And gets some compassion that she never extended to Meghan, who fled for her sanity.
It's a tricky situation imo. One one hand, no woman deserves the treatment people like Diana and Megan got from the british media / establishment / whatever, on the other hand tho - why would anyone willingly marry into this fucking mess? ESPECIALLY after all that happened with Diana? There's gotta be a level of knowing what you're getting yourself in at this point - which by no means is victim blaming, more like these women must've been aware of the price that comes with marrying into that kind of wealth and power, in one of the most harmful institutions in human history no less.
People make bad decisions all the time believing they’ll be the exception. I think people are even more likely to make a bad decision when it’s less a matter of believing you’ll be the exception and more a matter of how wealth distorts a person’s beliefs Wealthy people are less empathetic. They are more likely to believe that they are wealthy/privileged because that’s what they deserve and that poor people are poor because that’s what they deserve (kind of like the just world fallacy). Both Kate & Meghan were either independently wealthy or raised wealthy by the time they married into the family. I think there’s a possibility they believed that the people who were treated so horribly by the royal family/media received that treatment because that’s what those people deserved and that both believed they wouldn’t be treated that way because they weren’t deserving of it.
> why would anyone willingly marry into this fucking mess?
There have been rumours for years that Kate chose St Andrews for her university specifically to meet Wills.
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a34711551/kate-middleton-prince-william-posters
You can know the history, while believing someone who lies to you and says it's going to be different this time. William was Diana's son, and traumatized by her death - of course any intimate partner of his would be able to believe that he wouldn't let that history repeat itself.
They will never, ever, ever pass up the opportunity to throw a woman under the bus to save themselves (aka the men). History just continues to repeat itself.
They were nice to Kate during her happy early marriage days to William and after Meghan joined the family. Now that they're turning their backs on her (just like how she got overly scrutinized pre-marriage, with the title waity-katy), I think something is happening and Kate's behind it. Divorce is probably something possible and Kate insisted on it
It was commonwealth day on Monday and both Camila and William were there to attend and celebrate but because of the photoshop fail from Sunday making international news combined with the ramped conspiracy theories all the attention has been on Kate instead of them so they must be pissed at her for it even when none of it is her fault. Same thing happened to Meghan they hated how much more attention she was getting over the rest of them and punished her for it
Even the British trash tabloids are turning on her, this being my favorite headline:
https://preview.redd.it/sm9yzmo1bjoc1.png?width=1247&format=png&auto=webp&s=18f9bf0a85b14db045cf7df9a376569959361a3e
I can only hope and aspire to be dubbed a "chaos-bringer of humiliation and mockery" one day.
How dare you, the Daily Star is a bastion if the British tabloid media, none of their employees are smart enough to use ChatGPT, all of their output is written by the finest unpaid interns no money can buy.
Not gonna lie, that’s a catchier title than Duchess of Cambridge was. Feel like this is a clutch name for a trivia team, or a D&D character, or a WWE villain, or a pet cat.
Kneel before me, peasant! I am Catherine, Chaos-Bringer of Humiliation and Mockery!
She gave out Plan B/condoms at her concert in Missouri I believe, and also had informational booth sessions about reproductive health at her concerts alongside donating part of its proceeds to the prochoice health org. Her labels lawyers probably wanted to prevent any lawsuits so she's not giving them out anymore (on top of crazy prolifers on her neck) but she said she's still keeping the informational booths.
The most accurate-yet-devastating insult I’ve ever gotten was “Hipster ass Franz Ferdinand listening to bitch,” but that was 10 years ago. I really need to up my game.
I’m sorry for not keeping apace, but—does everyone think the tabloids are turning on her because they hate the monarchy and this is the perfect time to shit on them, or do we think the tabs are still in the pocket of the RBF and are cooperating by making her the scapegoat
or they aren't happy about being shut out and this is their punishment. That's the danger with the invisible contract- once you stop feeding them, they turn on you.
Yes!! Harry has said this but surprise surprise no one listened. It’s a very creepy parasitical relationship between the monarchy and press. The press will be fine without the monarchy but the monarchy NEEDS the press to survive
They did this to her before MM was around, and she became the darling stick of the royal family to figuratively beat her with. She'll be back in their good graces again at some point and be expected to pretend like this never happened. It's the same cycle, all over again.
This is William wanting a divorce and smearing Kate’s reputation by feeding stories to the tabloids. If she’s horrible enough, poor Wills should of course have a divorce and be able to openly be with his long-time affair partner (Rose Lady Cholmondeley [sp?]).
Allegedly.
I'm far from an expert on this, but from what all I've seen and read the last few days, the British tabloids are still very much the royal family's creatures. So if they're turning on Middleton, it's likely sanctioned on some level by at least some powerful people in the RF.
Even? They've turned on her since they learned about the likelihood of a royal divorce. It's no coincidence they started calling her Kate Middleton again, as opposed to the Princess of Wales or, before, the Duchess of Cambridge, her actual titles.
Nope, the article is still very much [live](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/kate-middleton-dubbed-chaos-bringer-32343284) and pointed at Kaotic Katey herself.
No, that one was from The Mirror in January and was something like "Kate Middleton your best friend one minute and your enemy the next." Then they changed it to Prince Harry but their original tweet of the article still has the original thumbnail with the picture of Kate and the original title. They added an editors note at the end saying the first version mistakenly said Kate instead of Harry. But like..there's no way! How would they possibly put the wrong name in the title, the wrong name throughout, and select a photo of the wrong person!
I was thinking the same. I could be so wrong but I feel like if she’s also not being told the truth (most likely) then she’s probably worried about her too.
My petty self wants Meg to be petty but I think she’s classier than I am 😂
She called Kate called a good person in the Netflix doc so I think you're right. I got the vibe that she really wanted them to be close, especially as someone who grew up an only child and with the way her actual sister has treated her since.
Also money. More people than ever in the UK are using foodbanks, we are having historic strikes.
We are also spending crazy money on a coronation. And if Charlie is ill we’ll soon be spending more crazy money on another coronation. Its a lot. Its hard to justify when Versailes makes more money.
You think?? I'm not trying to start an argument or anything. But, man... I think people really loved QEII and I certainly have some admiration for her. But now that she's gone and like other people said, no one likes Chaz or Cammie, and now Bill and Cathy? I think it's going to come unglued.
As much as they get criticism, I do think people can't see outside of the echo chamber of online. The support for them in Britain is still _very much there_ and they are so enmeshed into British society and the idea of Britain itself, that the family coming unglued is literally Britain coming unglued.
Not saying I don't want it to happen, I am an Irish republican, I desperately want it to happen.
She was born into a well to do family and could've had a cushy luxurious life on her own salary/family assets or married someone not directly benefitting from colonialism like that so hey. Anything for a crown ig.
Pippa won, IMO. Everyone used to rag on Pippa for being the "lesser" sister and not-mummy's-favorite, but Pippa lucked out by not being the oldest child and pressured to chase after aristos and royalty. Pippa lives a rich lifestyle and has no obligations to an archaic institution such as the BRF. She had children in her own time, lived most of her adult years travelling, and got to see snippets of the royal family by being the sister-in-law. I wonder what she has witnessed over the years or what gossip she heard from Kate.
Exactly! From what I know about her, she was still born on third base and would have led a charmed life regardless of who she married. She (and her mom by association) sought royal life.
I totally feel like Pippa got the better end of the deal when it comes to husbands. Her husband legit has more money than the royal family, and she doesn't have to deal with any of the endless rules/scrutiny that comes along with being a part of the monarchy.
Also, not that James's family is perfect, I'm sure, but they generally seem less terrible than the royal family (it's a low bar, but, ya know, I think they do clear it)
She’s not old money/aristo though. Her mom had a party supply business (I think?) and used to work as a stewardess. Iirc the press had a field day with her “commoner” status and even Williams school friends made fun of her for it.
I get what you mean, but *are* there actually that many people in upper class Europe who aren't direclty benefiting from ongoing defacto colonialism? There's a lot of "former" colonies that are still very economically enmeshed and under the thumb of the countries they *technically* have independence from.
Fucking over the "third world" sort of seems like the underlying groundwork for what allows "first world" countries to *be* first world countries. And the further up the old money ladder you go, the more wrapped up in that power structure things seem to go. Like if you even simply own land in Scotland as a British person.....you're already direclty benefiting from colonialism just doing that.
She was always going to bag someone who benefitted from colonialism directly, the entire upper class and aristocracy maintained their wealth and status through it
I’m really of two minds here. She knew on a level. She likely thought “but I’m different, I’m better, I’m going to follow all protocols and suck up so they’ll like me”. But the royals (especially men) are abusive. They don’t care. They were just more open with Diana and now Megan because they were openly “defiant”(normal) but behind closed doors no woman is treated well. She must’ve known. But at the same time, she’s human and I’m having a really hard time not feeling bad. Weird though because I’ve never had sympathy for Camilla.
I don’t understand my own self 😂. I’m super conflicted.
This comment is great. Just a really nuanced and very balanced and generous take - BUT ALSO FUCK THAT BITCH OVER THERE IN PARTICULAR. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE DID.
Same lmao. I still side with Megan because racism is racism but some Harry and Megan stans don't have a consistent approach, it's like you're either anti-monarchy on principle or you're not.
Her mom pushed her to chase Will when she was just a teenager. Had her change her university and everything. Her parents didn’t raise her to be independent, and since she actually ended up with Will, she never got the chance. I suppose their might have been a chance when Will briefly broke up with her, but she worked for her parents, and she continued to play the Waity Katie game and lost weight and went to clubs to be seen. I don’t think she had anyone encouraging her to do something else with her life.
I give zero fucks about the royals but of course now I’m glued to this story. As far as marrying into the family goes, I think both she and Megan signed up for something that was 1000000x worse than they ever imagined. And I think the institution completely blames all women for every wrongdoing in the media because they know it keeps the royal family in the headlines. The women are, and have always been, media bait thrown to the wolves.
Yes and she benefited from the harassment meghan received - I have no sympathy for her🤷🏽♀️ you reap what you sow, what goes around comes around I guess
So do you think they've had some bad Charles news and had to accelerate the divorce timeline so Rose is somewhat accepted by the public in time to be Queen or has Kate decided that she's had enough and they're scrabbling around to spin it in William's favour and have ended up with a colossal pooch-screw because Kate isn't doing as she's told anymore?
If this is going to bring the monarchy down can it hurry up?
Rose is married y’all. And it’s not a Diana/Camilla situation because Rose is more of an aristo and actually would have been more “acceptable” than Kate to start with.
It’s not being reported enough that Rose’s grandmother was literally a bridesmaid in Elizabeth’s wedding! She always had ties to the RF
Now her husband is working in Charle’s office and their son was the only non family member up on the balcony during the coronation. That’s a big deal she is very high up in the aristo circles
Am I the only one who thinks that Kate is probably just puffy from steroids and doesn't want to be seen/photographed right now? This is a woman who once made up a whole story about "a childhood scar" on her head, rather than just admitting that she was wearing hair extensions, so it does track with her general personality to not want to appear in public looking anything less than perfect.
I mean, William could totally be cheating on her too, wouldn't be surprised, I just don't actually think she'd leave him for that.....
Based on my extremely superficial gleanings and catching up from the last few days, my current theory is that Kate Missington is feeling a little bloated in the face after her surgery, and doesn't want to make her re-debut to the public until she looks perfect again.
Meanwhile, other parts of the royal apparatus, possibly even her husband, think she's making a fuss over nothing (the royals downplaying the concerns of a woman who married into their family, tale as old as time), and has been steadily increasing the pressure on her to start going public again. This has only caused Missington to feel more isolated and she's now dug in.
And all of this would've happened regardless of whatever else is going on.
I'm not very married to this theory, mind you, and I'm open to a quickie divorce should more evidence and news pile in.
I don’t think Kate would initiate divorce. She worked way too hard to marry William and catapult herself into the aristocracy.
It would be William all the way and it starts with character assassination. Just wait until they start with the “mentally unstable” whispers.
My sympathy towards her is v limited as she partook in driving the hate campaign towards Meghan, thinking it meant that she was safe. Well, she wasn’t, and isn’t, safe.
Even if he isn’t planning to marry Rose( or more likely Rose has no intention of leaving her husband and her comfortable life for William), Kate being coronated would probably make getting divorced harder. Charles has set a precedence for a Prince of Wales getting divorced but the last time a king wanted to end things with a crowned queen, Henry VIII had to start a whole new church to get the marriage annulled
I hope she’s the one who wants out but somehow I doubt it
Brit and not a monarchist but there hasn’t been a shred of evidence for this Rose Hanbury rumour? People keep referring to an affair but not one piece of proof? Agree there’s no smoke without fire but find it odd there’s no evidence tbh
It's a machinery that eats you Alive. For years got down voted for anything pro Meghan. Because it was clear that they needed a villain to detract from the big scandals (Andrew, Will’s Rose).
People who went to high school with Meghan at Sacred Heart said only nice things. The brits grumbled because she had the audacity to wake up at 5 am to do yoga. She came from a child of divorce and her family was really messed up. No one is perfect but ambition is always a good trait in Americans but it was looked down on by British society.
Geeezus this is some grim King shit.
First son decided to repeat history and throw his wife/mother of his children's name to the wolves.
Second son decided to break the cycle and literally ran.
I'm an *Australian* republican (to clarify, not an *American* republican).
Title sucks but I like this lil bit:
>The Prince and Princess of Wales have been, for so long now, the universally-acknowledged, Great Hope of Crown Inc, the shining city on the hill, the beacons of hope for committed monarchists fretting over whether King Charles and Queen Camilla have it in them to keep the whole shebang afloat.
>
>How much damage has **the couple and their handling** of the last few weeks done to that? They are now clouded by vast masses of public suspicion and scepticism and have, with the picture editing snafu, just accidentally revealed the degree to which their seemingly easy, breeze-y, bouncy show is actually carefully constructed and moulded for public consumption.
>
>The great Wales dog-and-pony show has come unglued.
Totally still on the 'blame willy and his willy' train. He's survived thus far due to Diana's 'transferred goodwill' but I'm glad everyone is waking up a little.
Yeah it's amazing the work the Palace immediately did to get the media talking about this as Kate's fuck up, when I guarantee most of this is William's fault.
*He's survived thus far due to Diana's 'transferred goodwill' but I'm glad everyone is waking up a little.*
Wild how little of that transferred goodwill seemed to apply to Harry (who at least outwardly was the one struggling more from the loss).
Just as an aside - as a Welsh person and ardent republican I cringe every time a member of the royal family is mentioned in the same sentence as my country
I'm of the same mind.. Divorce isn't that big a deal anymore, and I believe the public would deal with it well. It honestly could be anything at this point, but I worry about Kate's well-being, and really hope she's safe, and has family that's not royal that can help her if she isn't safe!
Divorce also means the finances come into play. William is the Duke of Cornwall now and the owner of the duchy’s assets.
The Royal Family is not going to want a spotlight shone on their private fortune while a divorce makes its way through the courts. It’s not the 90s, social media is going be all over every scrap of info from any legal proceedings.
Except that to the Royal family divorce IS this bad. The Royal family have only allowed very specific divorces recently. Because of their weird connection to the church and ‘upholding the crown’ they have historically struggled with the concept of divorce and when it does happen, don’t handle it well (even though divorce is perfectly normal and a non issue)
After discussing it for most of the afternoon my office has decided to throw ourselves passionately behind the rumour that Kate Middleton will be on The Masked Singer
Wow, it’s not enough that they threw her under the bus with the photoshop thing — they have to raze her image to the ground. It’s not going to work. We all now know: it’s not Kate that’s hit rock bottom. It’s the entire institution, the dying symbol. For as long as Elizabeth was alive, they were always going to maintain a degree of favour and goodwill from the public. She was widely beloved in a way that Charles (and Camilla, by extension) will never, ever be. To add insult to injury, they lost their golden-boy bachelor “to the Americans”. And if that wasn’t enough, everyone and their mother has been aware of William’s infidelity for years and it hasn’t gone away. The whole thing is an absolute disaster and I, for one, can’t wait for them to fade into obscurity so we can all stop watching them abuse and eventually discard of “non-compliant” women every couple decades.
They’re definitely getting divorced and he’s definitely slandering her. Meghan said that this was the big issue. That they manipulate the media, play teams and throw each other under the bus. Hopefully now people will pay attention.
My maternal great grandmother had an affair, and subsequent illegitimate child in 1923 (my mother's father) with Lord Mountbatten. It was the big not-so-secret family secret. He cast her aside as he did many others he was seeing at the time. I cringe to consider the amount of possible monarchs from whom I descend. Eat the rich! 🍽️
Oh woah. Mountbatten “the last viceroy aka head colonizer in charge” of then India (now 🇵🇰 🇮🇳 🇧🇩 )who along with his king and then subsequent queen— abandoned the country they looted for hundreds of years (and made them
Fight as largest “volunteer army” in both world wars) after doing a botched job of announcing a Partition. With boundaries drawn by a random British barrister using old census data. and then they said ok bye y’all handle the violence (mass murdering), mass migration of people, and entire mess yourself. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY and Eat the rich ✊🏾
Unpopular opinion that I’m definitely gonna her downvoted for- if all these rumors are true (William has been cheating on Kate for years, got Rose Hanbury pregnant, etc.) I don’t feel sorry for Kate. I’m not saying she deserves it or condoning William’s behavior, but let’s be real here: she dated him for *10 years* before they got married. She knew exactly the type of man he was after a decade of being together and knew that marriage probably wasn’t gonna change him at that point. But she was so determined to marry into the royal family/ become queen one day that she was willing to tolerate his indiscretions.
Honestly, I respect her lifelong hustle to marry William despite everything. But I think she’s had enough of his BS, even though she’s so close to the throne now.
Even royal families aren't exempt from that specific dynamic of dysfunctional families imploding when the scapegoat of the family has had enough and leaves. I guess the unique thing about this trashy family is that rather than turning on each other, they turn on the women who married in.
I want to feel sorry for Kate but after everything that happened with Meghan, I just don't. I do hope she leaves William though, his anger issues can't be pleasant to be around. I feel sorry for her in that aspect at least.
It's weird that it's solely put on her and not like.... whoever the fuck is making decisions for the RF. It's not like anyone thinks she sent out the photoshop tweet.
I don't think it makes Kate bad, more that it makes William/KP/Monarchy look bad.
It is interesting that there are several publications blaming Kate. Like as far as the public knows she's recovering until easter.
oh it’s KATE’S FAULT people don’t trust the monarchy??? everything bad with dwindling trust and respect is due to the fact people are worried about her?? give me a BREAK
I find this really amusing. I'm in the UK and honestly no one is bothered by this Kate drama (despite what our trashy tabloids say). The US is for sure making this a bigger thing than it is here. The Royals to us Brits aren't seen as celebrities, they are public servants.
I just don’t understand why they are not forthcoming about her condition. If it’s actually a medical one that is holding her from the public. That is literally their jobs to be public figures. So we can talk about privacy, but this is what you get into when you marry into this family
Never marry a British royal. They drain the life from the wives like vampires. Seriously Kates mother pushing her into the marriage, who the hell would want their kid to marry a royal?
This [piece](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/15/world/kate-middleton-news-controversy-cec) is a pretty good summary of the current Kate situation and the press weirdness around it.
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This family of colonizers just love terrorizing the women in their lives. I don’t care for Kate and I’m firmly on team abolish the monarchy but after hearing about how Megan was treated, I don’t buy the attempts to vilify Kate. I genuinely do hope she’s okay physically and mentally.
We’ve known how they treat women since Diana
Exactly! I’m not trying to sound like I’m blaming her or any of their partners but it’s not a secret, they’ve been doing this for centuries
That’s true. We all know about Henry VIII’s six wives.
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Which king ordered the act that illegitimatized Elizabeth's children? Richard III? I know Henry VII reversed it when he married Elizath of York.
Richard III declared her children illegitimate to take the throne. He was their uncle and likely had her sons murdered to secure his claim. Richard III was then killed on the battlefield and Henry VII took the throne. Henry was the first Tudor king and married Elizabeth Woodville’s eldest daughter to boost his weak claim to the throne. Elizabeth Woodville was later forced to retire to a nunnery where she lived in poverty until her death.
This makes me want to re-watch The White Princess. Rebecca Ferguson is so stunning and her acting was so good in that!
A poem every child learns at school, about how the Royal Family treat women
Eleanor of Aquitaine was imprisoned for 16 years
Henry II was the worst. Aquitaine was her’s and he just wanted to milk it for its wealth. Then he blames her for their sons rebelling against him. No dude. You did that in your own. Don’t forget Henry VIII and all he did. Margaret Beaufort was married at 12. Her husband was told to wait. He didn’t. She almost died in childbirth with Henry VII. She became the Queen mother. Then there’s Queen Victoria’s entire life until she took the throne.
I encourage people to read about her cos she was fascinating.
Anne Boleyn
Honestly Catherine of Aragon even considering William’s supposed mistress.
And her poor sister Joanna (Juana la Loca) had it rough. She’s somewhat a mystery but the question is how “loca” was she, in what way, and did it truly make her unfit to rule? What’s not a mystery is that the men in her life benefited greatly from her alleged madness and Juana spent most of her life confined.
We've known how they treat women since the wives of Henry VIII (and before). It's a long, horrible history.
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Girl we’ve known how they treat women since Anne Boleyn
It seems all the women who marry into the family are seen as collateral for their bullshit and it's really fucking sad. Not surprising, but still just sad. I can't imagine a life like that being worth it for too long, now maybe Kate can't either. Her, Meghan, Diana, it seems all the women are thrown under the bus for the sake of the men.
Didn't Kate herself partake in Meghan's bullying? If so, and if Chuck and the Side Chick are throwing her under the bus, this is top Leopards Eating People's Faces shit.
I think the royal PR teams get up to a lot of bullshit that their principals are unaware of.
Kate never came out to correct the rumour that Megan made her cry during her wedding preparation. She’s just complicit in letting the red tops shape Megan’s public opinion. All she had to say is, that isn’t true. Kate can be a victim of the BRF bullshitery and at the same time be the one who perpetuates the same bullshit on others.
I thought the same thing; I wonder white it’s different when it happens to Kate.
Exactly this!! Why do they always go after the women??? Charles was a sociopathic cheater but Diana was the one vilified everywhere she went to the point where she lost her life. Harry is still portrayed as a poor simp who’s in the clutches of an evil American gold digger. Now I don’t know what’s going on with William, whether he’s keeping it in his pants or not, but they’re already throwing Kate to the wolves to protect the Prince. While I’m not a fan of hers, I hope she protects herself. And gets some compassion that she never extended to Meghan, who fled for her sanity.
It's a tricky situation imo. One one hand, no woman deserves the treatment people like Diana and Megan got from the british media / establishment / whatever, on the other hand tho - why would anyone willingly marry into this fucking mess? ESPECIALLY after all that happened with Diana? There's gotta be a level of knowing what you're getting yourself in at this point - which by no means is victim blaming, more like these women must've been aware of the price that comes with marrying into that kind of wealth and power, in one of the most harmful institutions in human history no less.
People make bad decisions all the time believing they’ll be the exception. I think people are even more likely to make a bad decision when it’s less a matter of believing you’ll be the exception and more a matter of how wealth distorts a person’s beliefs Wealthy people are less empathetic. They are more likely to believe that they are wealthy/privileged because that’s what they deserve and that poor people are poor because that’s what they deserve (kind of like the just world fallacy). Both Kate & Meghan were either independently wealthy or raised wealthy by the time they married into the family. I think there’s a possibility they believed that the people who were treated so horribly by the royal family/media received that treatment because that’s what those people deserved and that both believed they wouldn’t be treated that way because they weren’t deserving of it.
> why would anyone willingly marry into this fucking mess? There have been rumours for years that Kate chose St Andrews for her university specifically to meet Wills. https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a34711551/kate-middleton-prince-william-posters
You can know the history, while believing someone who lies to you and says it's going to be different this time. William was Diana's son, and traumatized by her death - of course any intimate partner of his would be able to believe that he wouldn't let that history repeat itself.
They will never, ever, ever pass up the opportunity to throw a woman under the bus to save themselves (aka the men). History just continues to repeat itself.
They were nice to Kate during her happy early marriage days to William and after Meghan joined the family. Now that they're turning their backs on her (just like how she got overly scrutinized pre-marriage, with the title waity-katy), I think something is happening and Kate's behind it. Divorce is probably something possible and Kate insisted on it
So much drama and statements for a photoshopped photo, but not one statement against the racial abuse Meghan has suffered by the British press
History has had plenty of examples of women from powerful families get locked away and horrible things happen to them (Rosemary Kennedy)
It was commonwealth day on Monday and both Camila and William were there to attend and celebrate but because of the photoshop fail from Sunday making international news combined with the ramped conspiracy theories all the attention has been on Kate instead of them so they must be pissed at her for it even when none of it is her fault. Same thing happened to Meghan they hated how much more attention she was getting over the rest of them and punished her for it
They need to keep their royalty alive somehow … it’s slot of pressure but how on earth did Andrew not let it collapse
Even the British trash tabloids are turning on her, this being my favorite headline: https://preview.redd.it/sm9yzmo1bjoc1.png?width=1247&format=png&auto=webp&s=18f9bf0a85b14db045cf7df9a376569959361a3e I can only hope and aspire to be dubbed a "chaos-bringer of humiliation and mockery" one day.
Damn ChatGPT threw all the insults in there
How dare you, the Daily Star is a bastion if the British tabloid media, none of their employees are smart enough to use ChatGPT, all of their output is written by the finest unpaid interns no money can buy.
Any more insults and they'd get the "As an AI model, I cannot spread negativity" response!
Not gonna lie, that’s a catchier title than Duchess of Cambridge was. Feel like this is a clutch name for a trivia team, or a D&D character, or a WWE villain, or a pet cat. Kneel before me, peasant! I am Catherine, Chaos-Bringer of Humiliation and Mockery!
I am crying this is so good.
Defs gonna be my Tav's name when I do a Durge playthrough on Baldur's Gate 3 🤣
Individual of culture
🤣I might consider liking a her a little if she leaned into it and addressed herself as such.
Went to the same school to whoever named Olivia Rodrigo "High Priestess of child sacrifice"
Was this some regressive butthurt about plan B?
She gave out Plan B/condoms at her concert in Missouri I believe, and also had informational booth sessions about reproductive health at her concerts alongside donating part of its proceeds to the prochoice health org. Her labels lawyers probably wanted to prevent any lawsuits so she's not giving them out anymore (on top of crazy prolifers on her neck) but she said she's still keeping the informational booths.
That was genius 😂
Between this and the title Olivia Rodrigo got I’m beginning to think I’m not doing enough. The best I’ve gotten is bitch
The most accurate-yet-devastating insult I’ve ever gotten was “Hipster ass Franz Ferdinand listening to bitch,” but that was 10 years ago. I really need to up my game.
I’m sorry for not keeping apace, but—does everyone think the tabloids are turning on her because they hate the monarchy and this is the perfect time to shit on them, or do we think the tabs are still in the pocket of the RBF and are cooperating by making her the scapegoat
The latter
or they aren't happy about being shut out and this is their punishment. That's the danger with the invisible contract- once you stop feeding them, they turn on you.
Yes!! Harry has said this but surprise surprise no one listened. It’s a very creepy parasitical relationship between the monarchy and press. The press will be fine without the monarchy but the monarchy NEEDS the press to survive
They did this to her before MM was around, and she became the darling stick of the royal family to figuratively beat her with. She'll be back in their good graces again at some point and be expected to pretend like this never happened. It's the same cycle, all over again.
This is William wanting a divorce and smearing Kate’s reputation by feeding stories to the tabloids. If she’s horrible enough, poor Wills should of course have a divorce and be able to openly be with his long-time affair partner (Rose Lady Cholmondeley [sp?]). Allegedly.
I'm far from an expert on this, but from what all I've seen and read the last few days, the British tabloids are still very much the royal family's creatures. So if they're turning on Middleton, it's likely sanctioned on some level by at least some powerful people in the RF.
Even? They've turned on her since they learned about the likelihood of a royal divorce. It's no coincidence they started calling her Kate Middleton again, as opposed to the Princess of Wales or, before, the Duchess of Cambridge, her actual titles.
Dutchess of Chaos-Bringing
Countess of Chaos, Princess of Pandemonium, First of Her Name!
not the royal family trying to convince us kate is the loser when andrew is right there 😭
My beautiful mods, wouldst thou bestow the flair “chaos-bringer of humiliation and mockery” upon me? It pleases me so.
And she is somehow doing all of this while still recovering from abdominal surgery? 
Yess, rise Sailor Chaos ✨️ 💫
It's so weird since she literally isn't doing anything
The best time to be a chaos-bringer of humiliation and mockery was 20 years ago. The next best time is today.
I like her so much more now! I never realized she and I were so alike
A portent of doom, one might say. I'd wear the title proudly.
Compliment aside, this is starting to reek of "throw her under the bus to protect the crown's image" (... again)
If I was her I'd put the first part on my resume tbh
Isn’t this the article they scrubbed and just replaced all Kate’s with Harry?
Nope, the article is still very much [live](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/kate-middleton-dubbed-chaos-bringer-32343284) and pointed at Kaotic Katey herself.
No, that one was from The Mirror in January and was something like "Kate Middleton your best friend one minute and your enemy the next." Then they changed it to Prince Harry but their original tweet of the article still has the original thumbnail with the picture of Kate and the original title. They added an editors note at the end saying the first version mistakenly said Kate instead of Harry. But like..there's no way! How would they possibly put the wrong name in the title, the wrong name throughout, and select a photo of the wrong person!
Well your flair is up to date 😂
This is cute
It really is. Also, she doesn’t strike me as the type of person to react this way. Even though it’s completely justified
I was thinking the same. I could be so wrong but I feel like if she’s also not being told the truth (most likely) then she’s probably worried about her too. My petty self wants Meg to be petty but I think she’s classier than I am 😂
She called Kate called a good person in the Netflix doc so I think you're right. I got the vibe that she really wanted them to be close, especially as someone who grew up an only child and with the way her actual sister has treated her since.
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Also money. More people than ever in the UK are using foodbanks, we are having historic strikes. We are also spending crazy money on a coronation. And if Charlie is ill we’ll soon be spending more crazy money on another coronation. Its a lot. Its hard to justify when Versailes makes more money.
Spoiler, it won’t.
You think?? I'm not trying to start an argument or anything. But, man... I think people really loved QEII and I certainly have some admiration for her. But now that she's gone and like other people said, no one likes Chaz or Cammie, and now Bill and Cathy? I think it's going to come unglued.
As much as they get criticism, I do think people can't see outside of the echo chamber of online. The support for them in Britain is still _very much there_ and they are so enmeshed into British society and the idea of Britain itself, that the family coming unglued is literally Britain coming unglued. Not saying I don't want it to happen, I am an Irish republican, I desperately want it to happen.
Céad míle fáilte! ☘️
Agus tusa!
She chose to marry into this family and uphold the aristo tradwife institution. I have zero sympathy.
She was born into a well to do family and could've had a cushy luxurious life on her own salary/family assets or married someone not directly benefitting from colonialism like that so hey. Anything for a crown ig.
If it wasn't for Willy, I think she would have married a hedge fund bro like her sister.
Pippa won, IMO. Everyone used to rag on Pippa for being the "lesser" sister and not-mummy's-favorite, but Pippa lucked out by not being the oldest child and pressured to chase after aristos and royalty. Pippa lives a rich lifestyle and has no obligations to an archaic institution such as the BRF. She had children in her own time, lived most of her adult years travelling, and got to see snippets of the royal family by being the sister-in-law. I wonder what she has witnessed over the years or what gossip she heard from Kate.
I was thinking that too, no doubt she would marry well.
Exactly! From what I know about her, she was still born on third base and would have led a charmed life regardless of who she married. She (and her mom by association) sought royal life.
I totally feel like Pippa got the better end of the deal when it comes to husbands. Her husband legit has more money than the royal family, and she doesn't have to deal with any of the endless rules/scrutiny that comes along with being a part of the monarchy. Also, not that James's family is perfect, I'm sure, but they generally seem less terrible than the royal family (it's a low bar, but, ya know, I think they do clear it)
Maybe she was in love 🤷
And it's a bonus and coincidence a crown and throne come with it?
I mean in romcoms it is 😂
Out of curiosity, do you hold the same views about Megan?
I mean IF she was in love, yeah? Or do you think nobody who would marry a prince could possibly have a purely love-based motive?
"Whatever love is...." - Charles
I think infatuation and obsession
I’m sure she was, but she didn’t wait almost a decade for that man to decide to marry her for no reason.
While I agree with your sentiment, just wanna point out that ALL those British old money families directly benefited from colonialism
She’s not old money/aristo though. Her mom had a party supply business (I think?) and used to work as a stewardess. Iirc the press had a field day with her “commoner” status and even Williams school friends made fun of her for it.
Her sister is doing so much better.
Agreed. Married to a billionaire without having to deal with a public life in the press. Pippa won!
I get what you mean, but *are* there actually that many people in upper class Europe who aren't direclty benefiting from ongoing defacto colonialism? There's a lot of "former" colonies that are still very economically enmeshed and under the thumb of the countries they *technically* have independence from. Fucking over the "third world" sort of seems like the underlying groundwork for what allows "first world" countries to *be* first world countries. And the further up the old money ladder you go, the more wrapped up in that power structure things seem to go. Like if you even simply own land in Scotland as a British person.....you're already direclty benefiting from colonialism just doing that.
Her sister made a better match. All the luxury with none of The Firm.
She was always going to bag someone who benefitted from colonialism directly, the entire upper class and aristocracy maintained their wealth and status through it
Kate and her sister always wanted to bag someone above their status from a noble or a royal family. They got what they wanted.
Seriously! The most predictable marital issues in history
I’m really of two minds here. She knew on a level. She likely thought “but I’m different, I’m better, I’m going to follow all protocols and suck up so they’ll like me”. But the royals (especially men) are abusive. They don’t care. They were just more open with Diana and now Megan because they were openly “defiant”(normal) but behind closed doors no woman is treated well. She must’ve known. But at the same time, she’s human and I’m having a really hard time not feeling bad. Weird though because I’ve never had sympathy for Camilla. I don’t understand my own self 😂. I’m super conflicted.
This comment is great. Just a really nuanced and very balanced and generous take - BUT ALSO FUCK THAT BITCH OVER THERE IN PARTICULAR. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE DID.
😂 I hate you for making me laugh jerk 😆
>She chose to marry into this family I mean can't you say the same about Megan? Harry was a full on slur using racist
This is why I’m safe in disliking all of them.
Same lmao. I still side with Megan because racism is racism but some Harry and Megan stans don't have a consistent approach, it's like you're either anti-monarchy on principle or you're not.
Her mom pushed her to chase Will when she was just a teenager. Had her change her university and everything. Her parents didn’t raise her to be independent, and since she actually ended up with Will, she never got the chance. I suppose their might have been a chance when Will briefly broke up with her, but she worked for her parents, and she continued to play the Waity Katie game and lost weight and went to clubs to be seen. I don’t think she had anyone encouraging her to do something else with her life.
Lol the difference between this comment and the one above it.
I give zero fucks about the royals but of course now I’m glued to this story. As far as marrying into the family goes, I think both she and Megan signed up for something that was 1000000x worse than they ever imagined. And I think the institution completely blames all women for every wrongdoing in the media because they know it keeps the royal family in the headlines. The women are, and have always been, media bait thrown to the wolves.
Yes and she benefited from the harassment meghan received - I have no sympathy for her🤷🏽♀️ you reap what you sow, what goes around comes around I guess
So do you think they've had some bad Charles news and had to accelerate the divorce timeline so Rose is somewhat accepted by the public in time to be Queen or has Kate decided that she's had enough and they're scrabbling around to spin it in William's favour and have ended up with a colossal pooch-screw because Kate isn't doing as she's told anymore? If this is going to bring the monarchy down can it hurry up?
Rose is married y’all. And it’s not a Diana/Camilla situation because Rose is more of an aristo and actually would have been more “acceptable” than Kate to start with.
It’s not being reported enough that Rose’s grandmother was literally a bridesmaid in Elizabeth’s wedding! She always had ties to the RF Now her husband is working in Charle’s office and their son was the only non family member up on the balcony during the coronation. That’s a big deal she is very high up in the aristo circles
Camilla was also born into aristocracy! But I agree that the family would have preferred Rose over Kate
Am I the only one who thinks that Kate is probably just puffy from steroids and doesn't want to be seen/photographed right now? This is a woman who once made up a whole story about "a childhood scar" on her head, rather than just admitting that she was wearing hair extensions, so it does track with her general personality to not want to appear in public looking anything less than perfect. I mean, William could totally be cheating on her too, wouldn't be surprised, I just don't actually think she'd leave him for that.....
Wait what?! That wasnt a scar??
Based on my extremely superficial gleanings and catching up from the last few days, my current theory is that Kate Missington is feeling a little bloated in the face after her surgery, and doesn't want to make her re-debut to the public until she looks perfect again. Meanwhile, other parts of the royal apparatus, possibly even her husband, think she's making a fuss over nothing (the royals downplaying the concerns of a woman who married into their family, tale as old as time), and has been steadily increasing the pressure on her to start going public again. This has only caused Missington to feel more isolated and she's now dug in. And all of this would've happened regardless of whatever else is going on. I'm not very married to this theory, mind you, and I'm open to a quickie divorce should more evidence and news pile in.
I don’t think Kate would initiate divorce. She worked way too hard to marry William and catapult herself into the aristocracy. It would be William all the way and it starts with character assassination. Just wait until they start with the “mentally unstable” whispers. My sympathy towards her is v limited as she partook in driving the hate campaign towards Meghan, thinking it meant that she was safe. Well, she wasn’t, and isn’t, safe.
Or just a bachelor king. . .
Make it a reality show at the point
Last bachelor King abdicated for Wallis Simpson. I don’t think that the establishment wants another Edward VIII situation.
Yep a divorced bachelor, not a great look
Even if he isn’t planning to marry Rose( or more likely Rose has no intention of leaving her husband and her comfortable life for William), Kate being coronated would probably make getting divorced harder. Charles has set a precedence for a Prince of Wales getting divorced but the last time a king wanted to end things with a crowned queen, Henry VIII had to start a whole new church to get the marriage annulled I hope she’s the one who wants out but somehow I doubt it
Well if the rumours about Charles are true, he will be dead soon by not taking the chemo and just going holistic
To have the British monarchy abolished in my lifetime would be wild, but deserved. I hope it's a possibility
Brit and not a monarchist but there hasn’t been a shred of evidence for this Rose Hanbury rumour? People keep referring to an affair but not one piece of proof? Agree there’s no smoke without fire but find it odd there’s no evidence tbh
I would love to be the fly on the wall in Harry and Meghan's home as all this drama unfolds.
Their *Schadenfreude* is probably off the charts.
She announced a new lifestyle brand in as many days.
It's a machinery that eats you Alive. For years got down voted for anything pro Meghan. Because it was clear that they needed a villain to detract from the big scandals (Andrew, Will’s Rose). People who went to high school with Meghan at Sacred Heart said only nice things. The brits grumbled because she had the audacity to wake up at 5 am to do yoga. She came from a child of divorce and her family was really messed up. No one is perfect but ambition is always a good trait in Americans but it was looked down on by British society.
You know some Netflix executives are banging on their door with a camera crew right now ready to film a reality tv show.
I wanna see their group texts
Geeezus this is some grim King shit. First son decided to repeat history and throw his wife/mother of his children's name to the wolves. Second son decided to break the cycle and literally ran.
I imagine his mother would be so disappointed in him.
I'm an *Australian* republican (to clarify, not an *American* republican). Title sucks but I like this lil bit: >The Prince and Princess of Wales have been, for so long now, the universally-acknowledged, Great Hope of Crown Inc, the shining city on the hill, the beacons of hope for committed monarchists fretting over whether King Charles and Queen Camilla have it in them to keep the whole shebang afloat. > >How much damage has **the couple and their handling** of the last few weeks done to that? They are now clouded by vast masses of public suspicion and scepticism and have, with the picture editing snafu, just accidentally revealed the degree to which their seemingly easy, breeze-y, bouncy show is actually carefully constructed and moulded for public consumption. > >The great Wales dog-and-pony show has come unglued. Totally still on the 'blame willy and his willy' train. He's survived thus far due to Diana's 'transferred goodwill' but I'm glad everyone is waking up a little.
Yeah it's amazing the work the Palace immediately did to get the media talking about this as Kate's fuck up, when I guarantee most of this is William's fault.
*He's survived thus far due to Diana's 'transferred goodwill' but I'm glad everyone is waking up a little.* Wild how little of that transferred goodwill seemed to apply to Harry (who at least outwardly was the one struggling more from the loss).
He did marry a black woman, so by colonist standards that straight nullifies any good will.
I’m an Australian republican too! Love to see the whole thing come unstuck before we can have another referendum, it’s cheaper….
Just as an aside - as a Welsh person and ardent republican I cringe every time a member of the royal family is mentioned in the same sentence as my country
And it’s good to remember that this article is from a staunch Murdoch publication that upholds the monarchy
So annoyed they’ve gone with KateGate rather than WaterKate
I’ve been calling it KateGate WaterKate because it’s fun to say 😂
Katespiracy
I wonder if, at this point it's a case of "Let them think it's a divorce" because it's actually something a whole lot worse.
I'm of the same mind.. Divorce isn't that big a deal anymore, and I believe the public would deal with it well. It honestly could be anything at this point, but I worry about Kate's well-being, and really hope she's safe, and has family that's not royal that can help her if she isn't safe!
If you think their divorce wouldn’t be a big deal you’re so wrong. It would be a very big deal
Divorce also means the finances come into play. William is the Duke of Cornwall now and the owner of the duchy’s assets. The Royal Family is not going to want a spotlight shone on their private fortune while a divorce makes its way through the courts. It’s not the 90s, social media is going be all over every scrap of info from any legal proceedings.
Someone gotta let her know to keep away from cars, Boeing planes and the public places in general
Except that to the Royal family divorce IS this bad. The Royal family have only allowed very specific divorces recently. Because of their weird connection to the church and ‘upholding the crown’ they have historically struggled with the concept of divorce and when it does happen, don’t handle it well (even though divorce is perfectly normal and a non issue)
The more I read these headlines, the happier I am that my country doesn't have a royal family. Lord, what an expensive, chaotic mess they are.
You say that now, but without a Royal family how would your country.. uh, do the.. get a.. um, shit they are worthless aren't they?
My country had to chase them away 💀
Trailer parks have less drama.
I can’t believe this is seriously happening again. How many women do they have to tear down to keep their ivory towers standing?
n+1
What she didn't consider when she joined in throwing Meghan under the bus: once the existing scapegoat was gone, she was next in line.
After discussing it for most of the afternoon my office has decided to throw ourselves passionately behind the rumour that Kate Middleton will be on The Masked Singer
Wow, it’s not enough that they threw her under the bus with the photoshop thing — they have to raze her image to the ground. It’s not going to work. We all now know: it’s not Kate that’s hit rock bottom. It’s the entire institution, the dying symbol. For as long as Elizabeth was alive, they were always going to maintain a degree of favour and goodwill from the public. She was widely beloved in a way that Charles (and Camilla, by extension) will never, ever be. To add insult to injury, they lost their golden-boy bachelor “to the Americans”. And if that wasn’t enough, everyone and their mother has been aware of William’s infidelity for years and it hasn’t gone away. The whole thing is an absolute disaster and I, for one, can’t wait for them to fade into obscurity so we can all stop watching them abuse and eventually discard of “non-compliant” women every couple decades.
They’re definitely getting divorced and he’s definitely slandering her. Meghan said that this was the big issue. That they manipulate the media, play teams and throw each other under the bus. Hopefully now people will pay attention.
I’m gonna need some random YouTuber to do an hour long video essay on this whole situation involving Kate because I’m still SO lost.
My maternal great grandmother had an affair, and subsequent illegitimate child in 1923 (my mother's father) with Lord Mountbatten. It was the big not-so-secret family secret. He cast her aside as he did many others he was seeing at the time. I cringe to consider the amount of possible monarchs from whom I descend. Eat the rich! 🍽️
Oh woah. Mountbatten “the last viceroy aka head colonizer in charge” of then India (now 🇵🇰 🇮🇳 🇧🇩 )who along with his king and then subsequent queen— abandoned the country they looted for hundreds of years (and made them Fight as largest “volunteer army” in both world wars) after doing a botched job of announcing a Partition. With boundaries drawn by a random British barrister using old census data. and then they said ok bye y’all handle the violence (mass murdering), mass migration of people, and entire mess yourself. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY and Eat the rich ✊🏾
the monarchy is a relic
Relics are interesting, the monarchy is more useless than the dirt on my shoes.
Unpopular opinion that I’m definitely gonna her downvoted for- if all these rumors are true (William has been cheating on Kate for years, got Rose Hanbury pregnant, etc.) I don’t feel sorry for Kate. I’m not saying she deserves it or condoning William’s behavior, but let’s be real here: she dated him for *10 years* before they got married. She knew exactly the type of man he was after a decade of being together and knew that marriage probably wasn’t gonna change him at that point. But she was so determined to marry into the royal family/ become queen one day that she was willing to tolerate his indiscretions. Honestly, I respect her lifelong hustle to marry William despite everything. But I think she’s had enough of his BS, even though she’s so close to the throne now.
Why does this article make it sound like Kate is at fault for something? We've not heard much from her (obv) but what has she actually done wrong?
Even royal families aren't exempt from that specific dynamic of dysfunctional families imploding when the scapegoat of the family has had enough and leaves. I guess the unique thing about this trashy family is that rather than turning on each other, they turn on the women who married in. I want to feel sorry for Kate but after everything that happened with Meghan, I just don't. I do hope she leaves William though, his anger issues can't be pleasant to be around. I feel sorry for her in that aspect at least.
All of this because she got surgery?
It's weird that it's solely put on her and not like.... whoever the fuck is making decisions for the RF. It's not like anyone thinks she sent out the photoshop tweet.
I will absolutely scream if it is Adobe Photoshop that ends up being the death of the monarchy
I don't think it makes Kate bad, more that it makes William/KP/Monarchy look bad. It is interesting that there are several publications blaming Kate. Like as far as the public knows she's recovering until easter.
oh it’s KATE’S FAULT people don’t trust the monarchy??? everything bad with dwindling trust and respect is due to the fact people are worried about her?? give me a BREAK
Oh so she’s definitely leaving him.
This is a very dramatic article. 
The RF going this low to hurt a woman is unfortunately unsurprising. I hope whatever is up, Cate has all the support she needs.
I find this really amusing. I'm in the UK and honestly no one is bothered by this Kate drama (despite what our trashy tabloids say). The US is for sure making this a bigger thing than it is here. The Royals to us Brits aren't seen as celebrities, they are public servants.
Anyone else think she’s gonna show up at an event after Easter just as they said and this will turn out to be nothing
I just don’t understand why they are not forthcoming about her condition. If it’s actually a medical one that is holding her from the public. That is literally their jobs to be public figures. So we can talk about privacy, but this is what you get into when you marry into this family
Ain’t it some shit tht Camilla and Charles end up being each others true love out of everyone
Imagine having to pay taxes for this family to exist....
Never marry a British royal. They drain the life from the wives like vampires. Seriously Kates mother pushing her into the marriage, who the hell would want their kid to marry a royal?
she is so close to becoming queen , do we think she’ll throw it all away now?
This [piece](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/15/world/kate-middleton-news-controversy-cec) is a pretty good summary of the current Kate situation and the press weirdness around it.
What! A family who's famously used women as broodmares for literally thousands of years has mistreated a woman! :-O
What a terribly written article