Concert prices are insane now. It’s at the point where I’m always shocked when I find out a friend of mine is at some big concert because I’m like, “Damn I didn’t know you were rich.”
Girls5Eva had this as a plot point lol, they priced their tickets at a reasonable price, but after ticketmaster/fees they became wildly expensive
an entertaining show, if anyone is on the lookout for something new to watch!
LOL it is a great vibe! some of the songs are really catchy LOL, and the flashback songs are pretty hilarious! one was something like- jailbait \~ Im a virgin but Im great at sex! \~ LOL the subtleties of pop music out in the open
[the show trailer is here :) ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUYv_EtEAg)
Just started this show ~30 seconds ago and I love it already, thank you for the rec! For some reason the tile on Netflix just wasn’t grabbing me even tho it’s been up there for ages!
The fees on resale sites are also an absolute menace. I was trying to get tickets to a symphony my sister really wanted to see as a surprise and once I checked out the fees added $180 to the final total. For e-tickets of all things. Like the actual tickets were already a big splurge but the fees are so high that could have more than covered a nice pre-symphony dinner for two beforehand and it blows 😭
Just got crushed on fees. Its for a bday presents so ill eat it.
But it really makes me never want to buy any for fun.
Used to love concerts. Fuck ticketmaster monopoly
I was gonna try to go to a Billy Joel concert over the summer in Chicago. Cheapest ticket is $160, I thought “maybe I could swing it”
With Ticketmaster the total is $230.
I am no longer going to that concert because I can’t afford that.
Bruno Mars has two shows for the grand opening of the Intuit Dome in LA. Tickets for all the way up top, all the way in the back, with an "obstructed view" warning were no less than $350 without fees. Absolute madness.
For our first wedding anniversary, my husband and I went to see Billy Joel and Elton John, and we paid $120 each for nosebleeds and I said that was the most expensive concert we'd ever go to. That was in 2010 and I'm laughing at how naive I was back then.
Not rich just financially irresponsible 😂 Just gotta be drinking salt water for dinner for a while, maybe with some sugary water if we’re feeling fancy.
But jokes aside tho, I live in France and the prices here aren’t too bad. I got very good seats for Bey last year for 250€. I saw people in the states have shitty seats for the same price. I think the regulations are different here. Because I never had the insane fees y’all got in the states and I went to 5 major concerts last year, and have three this year. But things I worsening a little bit…
It’s defo the corruption going on to let TM just do the absolute worst in the US but slightly change their game over here.
got my Eras Tour GA tickets for 100€, no extra fees. I paid 60ish each for Hozier, Troye Sivan and Boygenius, so that's four major concerts for about 300$.
I always lucked out of this in the past by not being very into these giant pop stars. Most of what I like are either very local scale or older bands that aren’t in the prime of their career, usually for $30-$60.
Not anymore! My first taste was wanting to see the Cure but their tickets were minimum $300, and the latest is PJ Harvey whose tickets also started at $300.
Who has this kind of money?
My bestie and I have seen Depeche Mode at all their tours over the last 20+ years, but noped hard out of the ticket queue for the last tour. Paying triple digits for nosebleed seats was insane.
Credit card debt is often the answer, some people do have a lot of money or save up for a long time for the occasional show but many many people are drowning in debt 🤷♀️
I paid close to $400 for my wife and myself to see them (the Cure) last year and that seemed pretty ridiculous seeing as how they weren't amazing seats. Not nosebleed but not great by any means. But I've always been a big Cure fan and it's been on my bucketlist to see them live so I sprung for the tickets, but it's getting ridiculous. Now my daughter wants to see Weezer as she's been getting really into them and tickets are even more expensive in way worse seats, the world is going crazy.
Sometimes I get jealous of these mega US tours because of how many dates they get, then I remember how big the US is and your distributed density when I see these prices. That's insane and I hope it gets better for you all but if people are paying these and they're selling out, it's only gonna get worse.
On a relative scale it's also bad where I live and as much as I love the Cure I wouldn't drop a.months rent on them. Tickets here were more like 40, 80 for the pricey ones
Its not even necessary, its not like that in othe countries. So clearly they can host shows without charging that much. Im living in brazil, i went to Taylor swift for $20, The Weeknd for like $40.
But people pay $5K to see Taylor swift. And hundreds to see others. If people pay it, they’ll charge it. It’s really insane. People need to stop supporting it.
There was some article recently about how a group of TS fans decided to see her in Sweden because to fly there and stay for a few nights plus the tickets was less than just the ticket to see her in the US. I've been to Sweden. It is an expensive country (ex: it was about $100 for two of us to take the train from the airport into downtown Stockholm round trip for our 8 hour layover in 2019). If it is cheaper to go there of all places AND stay there PLUS the ticket to the concert, then this whole thing is just beyond ridiculous.
I don't know if you're friend went alone or not, but if you buy a single ticket, it's usually much cheaper than what you would pay for two. I went to see Stevie Nicks and had great seats, I paid around $100 with fees. The couple next to me paid around $150 a ticket for seats literally right next to mine.
Honestly, as a concert goer, I’ve stopped indulging in presales. The tickets I buy seem to drop heavily in price within two weeks. If it sells out at presale I assume it wasn’t meant to be.
Fuck the fees though. I swear they’re even worse than they were pre-pandemic.
Can’t speak for every artist as the big artists I tend to follow are a bit older and less in the spotlight (mainly Bruce Springsteen) and I have been able to see him three times this tour by not losing my mind on the date of ticket release.
I’ve been monitoring ticket prices and have managed to get in the door for less than $100 each time when they were originally on sale for $250-$300 for the worst seats.
While not perfect, punk shows/venues are where it's at. Can still get a good 4 hour show for 35-40 a ticket where I live (USA). Riotfest tickets are quite reasonable given its size, compared to other festivals. Obviously you have to be into that music though
Yeah I really hate that. And I hate that you have to (for most artists) register for a presale and if you get accepted to the presale you still have to wait to *maybe* get tix. So if you don’t do presale, you’re basically screwed.
Bring back the option of buying tix at the box office!
> Bring back the option of buying tix at the box office!
That'll happen just as soon as demand slows down for A-Tier entertainment events. Which is to say, not anytime soon.
You can still do this at most large venues. Day of is another story most of the time, but you can certainly still purchase tickets in advance at the box office.
It is still possible if you can make your way to the physical box office! I buy all my tickets this way and avoid the fees! The folks are usually super helpful too about seat location, etc.
Only a few times in recent years have I used the online service and it was usually because I was getting a VIP experience in addition to the ticket and those you do typically have to do online.
Most venues still have box offices with no fees. I live in the largest city in Ohio, and all major venues have box offices open during the week. I will drive to the venue during the week to buy tickets to save the $30-80 in fees.
That would really suck for people in my position. I’m smack in the middle of 8 different cities we regularly go to shows in. The closest is 45 minutes away, the furthest is 4 hours, and we average driving about 2.5 hours for most of them.
That, and also not disclosing all types of tickets and pricing before the sale opens. I don’t know if it’s like that in the US but here in Italy you almost never know about the prices until you’re fighting for you life during the sale.
I got the cheapest Billie tickets for her date here in Italy and it was 87€ each (included fees). Pit tickets were 150€. I think it’s ridiculous that concerts are becoming so inaccessible, seeing an artist live shouldn’t be such a luxury, no matter the popularity (especially since the bigger the artist the bigger the venue, so you’ll probably see very little of it except for the big screen).
Yeah, its the same here for any big artist in the UK.
You get at most a weeks notice, and to get into "presale" you probably had to buy the album 6 months ago or be lucky and your amex/mobile phone company/some other service you use has access.
Then, if you can get into the presale there's no info on ticket pricing beforehand because they know if you don't slam the buy button someone else will.
I don't see it changing soon sadly as its clearly working for artists that will sell out
and why can't they start selling tickets after the album comes out? I am sure it's not so bad I would want to return tickets but I am still more cautious about songs I haven't heard
That's for everything. "We boycott Spotify .... for 5 days."
Companies know people don't have a backbone because life is hard and they want to feel better by hearing a song.
They just hold out for a week or two because attention spans are short.
Yup. That’s how you set the market. You provide a product, people buy it, you raise prices, those people keep buying it, you raise price more, people keep buying it. Eventually you raise prices and people start passing. That’s how you know your market.
If people didn’t go then proves would go down. But they’ll complain and pay anyways. Hard to feel bad when it’s a luxury like going to a concert.
That's not quite true. The market is actually shifting to a smaller pool of people who can afford more expensive luxuries. The pool of potential customer is still much larger than the total seats, so the norms of the world miss out, while those with more discretionary income get to see a now more exclusive show.
But hey, at least I can't buy physical media anymore to play the music I can't see live! And thankfully the artists don't get any money from that, so have to constantly tour at absurd prices! *Everyone wins!*
It's hard to imagine this I guess, but there WAS a time I'd go to shows for free, as the venue would rather have people inside (perhaps to buy drinks?) than have a half full venue. I might have known the right people to get these opportunities, but I saw some amazing shows that way. We also just would play our own shows at our own venues, but the city closed all those venues down after Ghost Ship.
It's a little known fact that back in the 80s, ushers at Madison Square Garden would sell tickets for "undesirable" seats ("a partial view" for example) on the down low for $10 each. I had a friend who saw some major shows back then by taking advantage of this.
I mean the person who can do something about it is the artist itself, not the people. As an argentinian, let me tell you what happens when someone doesn't buy the ticket because it's expensive for the average person to purchase them: some jackass from a foireign country that earns x5 more comes and buys it instead
Maybe the artists globally known who already have more money they will ever spend in their lifetime can dial it back a little, or is that too much to ask?
Nah you don't understand, people don't buy albums anymore (except for 20 versions of the same vinyl in different colours) so poor starving artists like Billie have to demand a fortune for a ticket. Meanwhile legacy grandpas like The Cure still manage to tour with tickets for $40 and also actually play their music. Honestly I spent so much time trying to be less judgemental about shallow pop capitalism but I think we need to bring music snobbery and the rock'n'roll attitude back.
Plenty of legacy artists milking it as well! My friend is going to see The Eagles in the UK. Standard (i.e. non VIP package) tickets ranging from £145 to £443.
Bruce Springsteen tickets for Ireland gigs this year started at €144.
ETA: Even Pearl Jam who had a very high profile dispute with Ticketmaster back in the 90s are charging £126.50+ for tickets in the UK. Well, you can get "limited video view" for the low low price of £92.50.
We already know the answer. It is too much to ask. And that's why things are priced how they are.
I'm not saying it's good, I am saying 'This is how it is'.
As a society we care a lot about concerts. Far more than at any point in history. We are willing to spend obscene amounts of money to experience it in person.
Billie Elish can do a show and get 100,000 people to show up Even when it is $220 or more for a seat. The venue can only hold 100,000. She doesn't care which 100,000 shows up.
And you are right, the artist ultimately sets the price...but it really doesn't matter. If the price were $10 instead of $220 people would buy them up and immediately resell them for $250 or $200 or whatever the market will support. Like you said, people will even travel from all over the world.
The problem here isn't greed. It's scarcity. It's supply and demand. Many many many millions of people really want to see this one particular person perform. Billie is only going to do so many concerts. There are only so many seats. It's a scare. The supply is limited. Demand is much higher.
The supply side solution is to have alternative performers/virtual/digital/whatever experiences so that many people could do the shows or so that seating was unlimited. But none of that is happening and people don't want it.
The only reasonable and effective solution is for people to stop caring so much about seeing rich strangers who make pretty sounding music perform in person.
Noooooo don't you get it? We're in the age of neoliberal impossibilism! Nobody can do anything about it, it's just how the world is, stop thinking of other things. We must let the market dictate everything, interfering with that would be ushering in the three-eyed lamb of communism which will devour and masticate mankind!
Orrrr we could have regulations that restrict how much the ticket seller can charge in fees, or we could break up the ticket seller monopolies so there are other options, or literally do anything else other than putting it on the consumer and blaming them
Well, the thing is there's going to be enough rich people in each city to buy tickets at any price so it's never going to matter. Often times the people complaining are not the people going.
Wtf, I hate these service fees. It needs to be legally regulated because adding a huge % fee for nothing is insane. I get so upset and worked up and angry and I haven't even been to a concert in 9 years lmao!
Artists have the option of at least disclosing the fee up front. Ticketmaster does “all in pricing” at the artists request. Still high but at least it’s more transparent.
Fortunately we don’t have those kind of service fees in the UK, I think the most I’ve ever paid for a service fee is around £8. $50 is crazy, they’re ripping you off in America.
I promised my nephew tickets but these are the cheapest available for us 😭
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Okay I HATE the prices however in the case of ireland: we are an island, are insurance for performance is why cold play pulled out (our insurance industry is warmly known as a cartel), pulling all the equipment across the sea plus red tape, plus being one of the most expensive cities on earth, ya it’s gonna be baaaad. But usually less the 150 chriiist. You can go to a whole music festival for less.
Aye i was expecting it to be expensive but i think this is the highest price tickets i've ever seen! My ACDC tickets were only half this price and that's seats right near the stage too 😭
I actually saw Billie at EP last year, ticket was €200 and obviously saw lots of others too. She was amazing so that’s why I’d go again and I’d pay up to €200. But over €300 is ridiculous!
Holy fuck. I recently bought seating tickets for twenty one pilots (also in Dublin!) and I thought that was expensive since I paid around €280 for two. This is insane. 😭
I do agree tbh, €70 is absurd but not too bad. I was prepared to pay about €250+ altogether but €335 EACH?! I cannot wrap my head around it. Bruce Springsteen is cheaper! 😭
I haven't been to one since before covid.. maybe even 2018. Even then, I could only afford a lesser-known band who is out of their prime popularity (Cake)
it’s sad our kids aren’t going to know getting a $30 ticket to a show and going. i’m 37 and have 4 kids, i went to PLENTY of concerts growing up and it’s just unattainable now. not because of kids, but just for me and my husband to go to anything. it’s so far out of reach now.
I was gonna say, I go to 4-5 shows a month and max I'm willing to pay is $60 after taxes and fees. Most of the shows I see are $20-30 and this is the Bay Area which is notoriously expensive. I don't even consider my music taste underground or anything, usually the shows are sold out, I just don't listen to pop music or go to anything in venues bigger than a theatre (sound is bad there anyway) 😅
I saw smashing pumpkins with our Lady peace for 75 dollars cad (barely 50 usd) and placebo for 60.
All massive bands from the 90s and 00s. I've seen hundreds of announced concerts in that price range from well knwo band. Most of the overly expensive ones are artists for 14yos like Taylor Swift, Travis Scott and other artists that are terrible live like eilish (yes she's great on record)
Last year I won front section seats to Beyoncé’s renaissance tour. (Eleventh row, Wooh!) My parents encouraged me to consider selling them since they were easily going at least 1k a piece (in usd) and obvs I could do a lot with that money, but I explained that even if I didn’t actively follow her, how else was I going to get the opportunity to see an objectively amazing entertainer. I don’t regret it because it was really fun having amazing seats at least once in my life, but I still won’t spend even 200 hundred for artists I do love 😂
Ronny chieng’s tour came by my city and seats were 140 and it was still a total hell nah for me lol
Concerts are so expensive now. Back when I was in college I remember we would all go see popular artists for like $30 max 😭
i may also just be old lol but nowadays it feels like the prices are like, Vegas prices now no matter who you see. Kinda discouraging. If an artist is too huge now, I just assume it’s out of my price range.
That's not bad tho! Concerts are entertainment and everyone should be able to attend, not only fans. Maybe some people become more invested after watching them perform. The problem is class disparity, as with most things these days
I got front row tickets to a show fairly recently and it blew my mind a lot of the people also up front weren’t hardcore fans - just people there to see and be seen - reminds me of people who travel just to flex… they got to these concerts as some status dopamine hit and not for music
Smaller artists are still great. I saw Ethel Cain for about $45 and Rina Sawayama for similar. Chappell Roan was similar but she now did Coachella so idk.
Its funny because every time i venture into other subreddits talking about concert prices, everyone is always like, “what? I never pay more than 50 bucks for a concert ticket!”.
So a lot of people either are out of touch in today’s concert landscape, or they only see small/indie artists because anyone who has been to an even remotely popular artist within the last 5 years will tell you $50 dollar tickets will get you no where but the nosebleeds lol
Yeah I wouldn't expect to see an arena tour with a major artist for less than $100 minimum (before fees). Even that would seem like a good deal in this current landscape where it seems like it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get tickets to these popular shows.
Simple fix: don't go to the concerts. Complaining online and then buying the tickets anyway won't solve anything and will just encourage them to raise prices for the next tour, since they know people will keep buying them.
I mean, this is only a "fix" if you have a reasonable expectation that enough people will make the same choice to make a difference. You don't have any such expectation for concert tours by popular artists. There are a lot more people who want tickets than there are tickets. If I choose to stand on principle and don't go because the price is higher than I'd prefer, there's a dozen people who will be happy to snatch up the ticket I passed on. There's no illusion that I'm adding anything towards solving the problem, I'm straight up just cheating myself out of something I wanted to experience and getting on a high horse about it.
I don't know what the solution to skyrocketing ticket prices is, or if there is a solution at all, but for so long as there is more demand than supply, not going to the concert doesn't affect the artist's bottom line at all.
What bothers me more is that her album isn’t even released yet. How very presumptuous that these tickets are even worth the money. Obviously fans will just want to see her regardless if the music is good
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Look at what I found for the Dublin show 🥴
How the fuck is it double the price of a standing ticket in the UK?! I know Ireland is expensive to tour in but €335?!!!!
ETA: it seems she's using surge pricing. Some UK standing tickets now up to £240. Such a shitty way to price tickets.
Saw seating for some of the England shows hit £300+. Absolute insanity. Am I fuck paying that much to sit on a plastic seat with my knees under my chin, wiping blood of my nose because I'm up in the nosebleeds.
Yeah I thought about getting tix for my niece and I and they’re $$$$. She’s 13 and I don’t even know if she will still be a Billie fan next year - know what I mean? 13 is when you’re figuring shit out and what’s cool today could be boring tomorrow. SORRY, KID lol
Last year I bought two tickets for The Cure and I thought I made a mistake and only bought one because the total cost was about $75. Then a week later Ticketmaster refunded about $10 of it because the band complained. God bless Robert Smith.
I remember a video circulating where Nirvana can’t believe that Madonna was charging $50 for tickets . I would give anything for the most expensive ticket for a concert to be $50. 😭
To be fair, with inflation that $50 would $113 in 2024. That's definitely lower than tickets for most A-list singers concerts are going for, but still not exactly affordable.
It's her fault - The Cure last year did a great job of keeping tickets reasonable and off the resale market, even with the awful Ticketmaster involved.
Not sure if the prices in the article include fees, but £145 = $181 US dollars, and this amount is pretty standard for any arena sized show in the US. I’m not surprised or even outraged by that price; it’s just standard and to be expected now. I used to go to 10+ shows a year with decent seats for all of them and post-Covid I just have to pick 2-3 favorites.
I did read that at least for the US she is not allowing tickets to be sold on third party sites or resold for higher than face value, which I really respect.
I had the same reaction as you. I'm Canadian and those prices don't seem that high to me compared to what I've paid for other shows and that was a few years ago. Is shitty ticket pricing just now showing up in the UK?
Nah that’s insane for the UK. Going to see some of our biggest bands is half that price. For example, standing tickets to Arctic Monkeys last summer was £75ish. And I know a lot of people who would consider that too expensive.
You’d expect those sort of prices for Beyoncé or Taylor Swift, but you’d also expect there to be cheaper seats available.
If these concerts are still selling out then I guess the prices weren't "too expensive".
Just your daily reminder that celebrities aren't your friends and capitalism ruins everything it touches. It's a metastasizing cancer on the planet and the human spirit.
£145 for a pit ticket is insane.
I remember paying 70 euros for a pit ticket for Muse a few years ago, in a big stadium.
Muse was (still is ?) extremely popular, the tickets were selling out in minutes, so I don’t think Billie’s ticket prices here are being fair.
I saw The Weeknd last year on his stadium tour and it was £90 for a standing ticket. He was the biggest artist in the world at that point. Absolutely insane how much Billie is charging when arguably bigger artists have sold tickets for much less than she is.
You pay out the ass then they herd you like cattle into the venue. The whole experience has gone to shit unless you’re paying for the big VIP tix. The way the other half lives is crazy compared to the rest of us.
This makes me so grateful that I was a teen in the 90s. I saw so many bands and artists who went on to be massive for, like, £6-£8? I’m sure that even arena gigs cost £30 at the absolute most.
This was the only natural result from artists not being able to make money selling albums. They have to tour to make the money and they have to drive up ticket prices.
Here's another point where I think she's just a total contradiction of herself, anyone remember her raging about multiple editions of vinyl records despite being guilty of doing that herself?
She's fake af.
for an album not even out yet with a day’s notice of presale. i find it ironic that she talked about the vinyls and yet she’s essentially doing the same thing.
I tried going to an Olivia Rodrigo concert and everything about this process is broken. Look at this fuckin ticket someone listed - Ticketmaster some bitches. Btw these tickets never sold. Just going to waste. From original high ticket prices to reselling - it’s sad. Regulate this shit.
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I remember when I was younger I used to go to concerts sooo often. And it was good bands not like friends of friends bands. It was so cheap and fun. That’s how I got so into Muse cause I casually went to their gig cause I was mildly interested. With these prices there’s no way I would ever go to a concert if I am not a huge fan of the artist.
I went to a festival with Muse simply because I knew a few songs, and they blew me away. Same with The Kills and Kasabian. Went to a bunch of bands I liked as a kid even though I didn't care about them anymore just to please my 13 year old self too.
Now I can't afford going to even one show, wtf.
yeah i wanted to go but i’ll sit this out. to think i once i saw her for 5 dollars. 😭 i prefer going to concerts for smaller artists at this point, typically reasonable.
It may not be her, Ticketbastard has the exclusive ticket rights to most large venues and once those thieving scumbags are involved, grit your teeth and grab your ankles
It worries me tremendously I wasn't even shocked by the ticket price, I thought it would be higher.
Who can buy concert tickets anymore? Who can afford groceries anymore? Is everyone just in debt?
This is the cost of not paying for music. Tours used to lose money as they’d drive album sales.
Now the album sales drive the exorbitant prices of the tour.
She’s become too posh and money focused now. It kills me to say it but, when you factor in the low quality - high price of the merch this is evidence that she is becoming greedy and out of touch. What they don’t tell you is that Ticketmaster works within the numbers the artist decides. If Metallica wants to charge X for a ticket Ticketmaster and others will add their fees on top of that, but the initial base price is set by the artist.
Tour timing is SO WEIRD now? Idk if I've never paid attention to it before but I've noticed that tour announcements are happening *before* the release of a new album. What if the new album sucks? I've had that happen before and thankfully didn't have any tickets to sell but could you imagine blowing a couple hundred dollars and not liking what will arguably be most of the work performed at the gig?
There used to be stark cost differences between venues; smaller/lesser known ones being cheapest, "theaters" being mid-tier, and then arenas being the most expensive (and I'm talking *close* to $100 for that). Festivals were the ones where you'd spent a couple hundred for multiple days! Going to one gig for a couple hundo is ridiculous!
Isn't this the result of our collective disinterest in buying the physical music?
Streaming has killed a large source of revenue for the artists, and companies alike.
So, they decided to take it out on fans at the ticket booth. Doesn't make it right, but it's the state that we're in.
Don't know how we're ever going back to the days of affordable tickets.
Noah Kahan is playing at Fenway over the summer, and the cheapest tickets I could find were over $500 before fees. Granted, there’s not a ton of tickets left, but for shitty seats the price is ridiculous. He’s a good artist, but no one is worth $500.
Concert prices are insane now. It’s at the point where I’m always shocked when I find out a friend of mine is at some big concert because I’m like, “Damn I didn’t know you were rich.”
And the fees are so out of control. I was looking at buying two $39 tickets, and the total at the end for both together was like $120 or something
Girls5Eva had this as a plot point lol, they priced their tickets at a reasonable price, but after ticketmaster/fees they became wildly expensive an entertaining show, if anyone is on the lookout for something new to watch!
I loooove Girls5Eva! I'm not optimistic that they'll bring it back since viewership decreased after the move to Netflix, but fingers crossed
It did? I only started watching because of Netflix, dang!
I love your username ps, so good!
Did the last season end on a cliff hanger? That’s one way to know that Netflix is going to cancel.
Actually, yes 😭
Me and the Santa Clarita Diet fans send our condolences.
It did? I only started watching because of Netflix, dang!
Omg I just started watching this and I love it so much!!! Hilarious and I love the characters.
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LOL it is a great vibe! some of the songs are really catchy LOL, and the flashback songs are pretty hilarious! one was something like- jailbait \~ Im a virgin but Im great at sex! \~ LOL the subtleties of pop music out in the open [the show trailer is here :) ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUYv_EtEAg)
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I love it so much more than I expected to. Its like 30 Rock with cursing
And more funny women
Id argue that 30 rock had a ton of funny women, just different ones featured in different episodes
TGS hates women!
Just started this show ~30 seconds ago and I love it already, thank you for the rec! For some reason the tile on Netflix just wasn’t grabbing me even tho it’s been up there for ages!
I LOVE THAT SHOW! I need to binge the new season!
I keep hearing about it. I’ll check it out while I work next week!
Just had this for a show we are taking our kid to. Tickets:$60 expensive but ok we can manage. FEE: $35 per ticket? Over 50% cost of the ticket? HOW
Yep, I bought two $25 tickets. total cost $80.
That’s what keeps me from going. If it was all or mostly going to the artist than sure whatever, but Ticketmaster is robbing people
It’s 100% the fees. I was fine paying $80 for a ticket until I saw the fees were $40!!! What the hell? This was not for Billie.
The fees on resale sites are also an absolute menace. I was trying to get tickets to a symphony my sister really wanted to see as a surprise and once I checked out the fees added $180 to the final total. For e-tickets of all things. Like the actual tickets were already a big splurge but the fees are so high that could have more than covered a nice pre-symphony dinner for two beforehand and it blows 😭
The resale site was most likely owned by Ticketmaster too...
This, they own every part of the chain, from management to the concerts themselves.
If I can, I try to buy tickets straight from the venue. Which seriously only works if it’s a much smaller artist/band these days
Bill burr was like $50 for two of us then with Ticketmaster and parking it was $150. Lol what?
I tried to get Stephen Sanchez tickets and the same thing happened! $35 tickets with $30 in fees added on??
Just got crushed on fees. Its for a bday presents so ill eat it. But it really makes me never want to buy any for fun. Used to love concerts. Fuck ticketmaster monopoly
I was gonna try to go to a Billy Joel concert over the summer in Chicago. Cheapest ticket is $160, I thought “maybe I could swing it” With Ticketmaster the total is $230. I am no longer going to that concert because I can’t afford that.
Bruno Mars has two shows for the grand opening of the Intuit Dome in LA. Tickets for all the way up top, all the way in the back, with an "obstructed view" warning were no less than $350 without fees. Absolute madness.
I adore him and would love to see him but I'm not paying that.
For our first wedding anniversary, my husband and I went to see Billy Joel and Elton John, and we paid $120 each for nosebleeds and I said that was the most expensive concert we'd ever go to. That was in 2010 and I'm laughing at how naive I was back then.
Not rich just financially irresponsible 😂 Just gotta be drinking salt water for dinner for a while, maybe with some sugary water if we’re feeling fancy. But jokes aside tho, I live in France and the prices here aren’t too bad. I got very good seats for Bey last year for 250€. I saw people in the states have shitty seats for the same price. I think the regulations are different here. Because I never had the insane fees y’all got in the states and I went to 5 major concerts last year, and have three this year. But things I worsening a little bit… It’s defo the corruption going on to let TM just do the absolute worst in the US but slightly change their game over here.
If you told me you went to 5 major concerts, I would assume you spent at least $1200 USD on just concerts
got my Eras Tour GA tickets for 100€, no extra fees. I paid 60ish each for Hozier, Troye Sivan and Boygenius, so that's four major concerts for about 300$.
I always lucked out of this in the past by not being very into these giant pop stars. Most of what I like are either very local scale or older bands that aren’t in the prime of their career, usually for $30-$60. Not anymore! My first taste was wanting to see the Cure but their tickets were minimum $300, and the latest is PJ Harvey whose tickets also started at $300. Who has this kind of money?
My bestie and I have seen Depeche Mode at all their tours over the last 20+ years, but noped hard out of the ticket queue for the last tour. Paying triple digits for nosebleed seats was insane.
>Who has this kind of money? everyone else apparently because these concerts are always packed no matter how much they charge I'll never get it
Credit card debt is often the answer, some people do have a lot of money or save up for a long time for the occasional show but many many people are drowning in debt 🤷♀️
I paid close to $400 for my wife and myself to see them (the Cure) last year and that seemed pretty ridiculous seeing as how they weren't amazing seats. Not nosebleed but not great by any means. But I've always been a big Cure fan and it's been on my bucketlist to see them live so I sprung for the tickets, but it's getting ridiculous. Now my daughter wants to see Weezer as she's been getting really into them and tickets are even more expensive in way worse seats, the world is going crazy.
Sometimes I get jealous of these mega US tours because of how many dates they get, then I remember how big the US is and your distributed density when I see these prices. That's insane and I hope it gets better for you all but if people are paying these and they're selling out, it's only gonna get worse. On a relative scale it's also bad where I live and as much as I love the Cure I wouldn't drop a.months rent on them. Tickets here were more like 40, 80 for the pricey ones
Its not even necessary, its not like that in othe countries. So clearly they can host shows without charging that much. Im living in brazil, i went to Taylor swift for $20, The Weeknd for like $40. But people pay $5K to see Taylor swift. And hundreds to see others. If people pay it, they’ll charge it. It’s really insane. People need to stop supporting it.
I’m lucky my Taylor swift ticket was $65 including fees.
>my Taylor swift ticket was $65 including fees. Which country do you live in ? So lucky..
There was some article recently about how a group of TS fans decided to see her in Sweden because to fly there and stay for a few nights plus the tickets was less than just the ticket to see her in the US. I've been to Sweden. It is an expensive country (ex: it was about $100 for two of us to take the train from the airport into downtown Stockholm round trip for our 8 hour layover in 2019). If it is cheaper to go there of all places AND stay there PLUS the ticket to the concert, then this whole thing is just beyond ridiculous.
I met quite a few people who flew down from the states to Rio because it was cheaper than getting tickets there, including like a week long vacation
damn does this count towards TS's carbon footprint too?
My friend went to Taylor and Beyonce and they were not very far apart and he had GOOD seats and I was like 😲. Dude spent A LOT of money.
I don't know if you're friend went alone or not, but if you buy a single ticket, it's usually much cheaper than what you would pay for two. I went to see Stevie Nicks and had great seats, I paid around $100 with fees. The couple next to me paid around $150 a ticket for seats literally right next to mine.
I’m going to 3 concerts this year and every single one of them is on a payment plan through Affirm 😭 I regret that shit now bc those payment pile up
That’s on you fam
Yeah no shit lmao
Honestly, as a concert goer, I’ve stopped indulging in presales. The tickets I buy seem to drop heavily in price within two weeks. If it sells out at presale I assume it wasn’t meant to be. Fuck the fees though. I swear they’re even worse than they were pre-pandemic.
Can’t speak for every artist as the big artists I tend to follow are a bit older and less in the spotlight (mainly Bruce Springsteen) and I have been able to see him three times this tour by not losing my mind on the date of ticket release. I’ve been monitoring ticket prices and have managed to get in the door for less than $100 each time when they were originally on sale for $250-$300 for the worst seats.
While not perfect, punk shows/venues are where it's at. Can still get a good 4 hour show for 35-40 a ticket where I live (USA). Riotfest tickets are quite reasonable given its size, compared to other festivals. Obviously you have to be into that music though
Not just the cost but one day's notice to buy them is absurd.
Yeah I really hate that. And I hate that you have to (for most artists) register for a presale and if you get accepted to the presale you still have to wait to *maybe* get tix. So if you don’t do presale, you’re basically screwed. Bring back the option of buying tix at the box office!
> Bring back the option of buying tix at the box office! That'll happen just as soon as demand slows down for A-Tier entertainment events. Which is to say, not anytime soon.
If they did people would queue for days, guaranteed.
You can still do this at most large venues. Day of is another story most of the time, but you can certainly still purchase tickets in advance at the box office.
Like back in the 90’s. Camping out outside of Wherehouse to get tickets.
People queue for days to get to the front of a 1975 concert, I hate to think how long they would queue for tickets
It is still possible if you can make your way to the physical box office! I buy all my tickets this way and avoid the fees! The folks are usually super helpful too about seat location, etc. Only a few times in recent years have I used the online service and it was usually because I was getting a VIP experience in addition to the ticket and those you do typically have to do online.
Most venues still have box offices with no fees. I live in the largest city in Ohio, and all major venues have box offices open during the week. I will drive to the venue during the week to buy tickets to save the $30-80 in fees.
That would really suck for people in my position. I’m smack in the middle of 8 different cities we regularly go to shows in. The closest is 45 minutes away, the furthest is 4 hours, and we average driving about 2.5 hours for most of them.
Maggie Rogers is doing this!!
That, and also not disclosing all types of tickets and pricing before the sale opens. I don’t know if it’s like that in the US but here in Italy you almost never know about the prices until you’re fighting for you life during the sale. I got the cheapest Billie tickets for her date here in Italy and it was 87€ each (included fees). Pit tickets were 150€. I think it’s ridiculous that concerts are becoming so inaccessible, seeing an artist live shouldn’t be such a luxury, no matter the popularity (especially since the bigger the artist the bigger the venue, so you’ll probably see very little of it except for the big screen).
Yeah, its the same here for any big artist in the UK. You get at most a weeks notice, and to get into "presale" you probably had to buy the album 6 months ago or be lucky and your amex/mobile phone company/some other service you use has access. Then, if you can get into the presale there's no info on ticket pricing beforehand because they know if you don't slam the buy button someone else will. I don't see it changing soon sadly as its clearly working for artists that will sell out
and why can't they start selling tickets after the album comes out? I am sure it's not so bad I would want to return tickets but I am still more cautious about songs I haven't heard
People keep complaining about prices, but they still go. And as long as they keep going, businesses will raise prices.
This 100% nothing will stop if the ‘outrage’ people feel isn’t actively acted on
the people outraged and the people buying the tickets are not the same
You’re gonna tell me not one person buying a ticket will bitch about the price but do it anyways? Yea ok
*fans buying tickets for OUTRAGOUS prices* 
Oh please, everyone complains ad nauseum that the price of x is too damn high and a week later magically finds the funds to pay for x
A lot of people disagreeing with you, but the truth is a lot of people have simply been priced out of concerts.
That's for everything. "We boycott Spotify .... for 5 days." Companies know people don't have a backbone because life is hard and they want to feel better by hearing a song. They just hold out for a week or two because attention spans are short.
Yup. That’s how you set the market. You provide a product, people buy it, you raise prices, those people keep buying it, you raise price more, people keep buying it. Eventually you raise prices and people start passing. That’s how you know your market. If people didn’t go then proves would go down. But they’ll complain and pay anyways. Hard to feel bad when it’s a luxury like going to a concert.
That's not quite true. The market is actually shifting to a smaller pool of people who can afford more expensive luxuries. The pool of potential customer is still much larger than the total seats, so the norms of the world miss out, while those with more discretionary income get to see a now more exclusive show. But hey, at least I can't buy physical media anymore to play the music I can't see live! And thankfully the artists don't get any money from that, so have to constantly tour at absurd prices! *Everyone wins!* It's hard to imagine this I guess, but there WAS a time I'd go to shows for free, as the venue would rather have people inside (perhaps to buy drinks?) than have a half full venue. I might have known the right people to get these opportunities, but I saw some amazing shows that way. We also just would play our own shows at our own venues, but the city closed all those venues down after Ghost Ship.
It's a little known fact that back in the 80s, ushers at Madison Square Garden would sell tickets for "undesirable" seats ("a partial view" for example) on the down low for $10 each. I had a friend who saw some major shows back then by taking advantage of this.
I mean the person who can do something about it is the artist itself, not the people. As an argentinian, let me tell you what happens when someone doesn't buy the ticket because it's expensive for the average person to purchase them: some jackass from a foireign country that earns x5 more comes and buys it instead Maybe the artists globally known who already have more money they will ever spend in their lifetime can dial it back a little, or is that too much to ask?
Nah you don't understand, people don't buy albums anymore (except for 20 versions of the same vinyl in different colours) so poor starving artists like Billie have to demand a fortune for a ticket. Meanwhile legacy grandpas like The Cure still manage to tour with tickets for $40 and also actually play their music. Honestly I spent so much time trying to be less judgemental about shallow pop capitalism but I think we need to bring music snobbery and the rock'n'roll attitude back.
Plenty of legacy artists milking it as well! My friend is going to see The Eagles in the UK. Standard (i.e. non VIP package) tickets ranging from £145 to £443. Bruce Springsteen tickets for Ireland gigs this year started at €144. ETA: Even Pearl Jam who had a very high profile dispute with Ticketmaster back in the 90s are charging £126.50+ for tickets in the UK. Well, you can get "limited video view" for the low low price of £92.50.
We already know the answer. It is too much to ask. And that's why things are priced how they are. I'm not saying it's good, I am saying 'This is how it is'. As a society we care a lot about concerts. Far more than at any point in history. We are willing to spend obscene amounts of money to experience it in person. Billie Elish can do a show and get 100,000 people to show up Even when it is $220 or more for a seat. The venue can only hold 100,000. She doesn't care which 100,000 shows up. And you are right, the artist ultimately sets the price...but it really doesn't matter. If the price were $10 instead of $220 people would buy them up and immediately resell them for $250 or $200 or whatever the market will support. Like you said, people will even travel from all over the world. The problem here isn't greed. It's scarcity. It's supply and demand. Many many many millions of people really want to see this one particular person perform. Billie is only going to do so many concerts. There are only so many seats. It's a scare. The supply is limited. Demand is much higher. The supply side solution is to have alternative performers/virtual/digital/whatever experiences so that many people could do the shows or so that seating was unlimited. But none of that is happening and people don't want it. The only reasonable and effective solution is for people to stop caring so much about seeing rich strangers who make pretty sounding music perform in person.
Noooooo don't you get it? We're in the age of neoliberal impossibilism! Nobody can do anything about it, it's just how the world is, stop thinking of other things. We must let the market dictate everything, interfering with that would be ushering in the three-eyed lamb of communism which will devour and masticate mankind!
There’s too many people that just simply do not give a shit. They’re bringing the rest of us down.
Orrrr we could have regulations that restrict how much the ticket seller can charge in fees, or we could break up the ticket seller monopolies so there are other options, or literally do anything else other than putting it on the consumer and blaming them
Well, the thing is there's going to be enough rich people in each city to buy tickets at any price so it's never going to matter. Often times the people complaining are not the people going.
I mean I would, but scalpers got them all seconds after it was opened I am not gonna pay double the price.
omg £145 on a ticket? what the hell
Don’t forget the $50 “service fee.”
Wtf, I hate these service fees. It needs to be legally regulated because adding a huge % fee for nothing is insane. I get so upset and worked up and angry and I haven't even been to a concert in 9 years lmao!
Artists have the option of at least disclosing the fee up front. Ticketmaster does “all in pricing” at the artists request. Still high but at least it’s more transparent.
Fortunately we don’t have those kind of service fees in the UK, I think the most I’ve ever paid for a service fee is around £8. $50 is crazy, they’re ripping you off in America.
I promised my nephew tickets but these are the cheapest available for us 😭 https://preview.redd.it/2ogu73bev8yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ec2191c54af1350a6352ea6e8415cc08da66d2d
Okay I HATE the prices however in the case of ireland: we are an island, are insurance for performance is why cold play pulled out (our insurance industry is warmly known as a cartel), pulling all the equipment across the sea plus red tape, plus being one of the most expensive cities on earth, ya it’s gonna be baaaad. But usually less the 150 chriiist. You can go to a whole music festival for less.
Aye i was expecting it to be expensive but i think this is the highest price tickets i've ever seen! My ACDC tickets were only half this price and that's seats right near the stage too 😭
just gotta wait 40 years for billie's farewell/reunion/whatever tour, I guess.
Coldplay pulled out of what? Are they not doing their shows this September
I actually saw Billie at EP last year, ticket was €200 and obviously saw lots of others too. She was amazing so that’s why I’d go again and I’d pay up to €200. But over €300 is ridiculous!
My daughter asked to go and I laughed. Just no possible way am I spending that much money for a 4 hour event.
Holy fuck. I recently bought seating tickets for twenty one pilots (also in Dublin!) and I thought that was expensive since I paid around €280 for two. This is insane. 😭
This lets me know how out of the loop I was: i thought (and still think) that 70€ for a ticket is absurd.
I do agree tbh, €70 is absurd but not too bad. I was prepared to pay about €250+ altogether but €335 EACH?! I cannot wrap my head around it. Bruce Springsteen is cheaper! 😭
Get the seat over the standing, if anything. Same shit price.
I stopped going to shows because ticket prices are WAY WAY too much.
I haven't been to one since before covid.. maybe even 2018. Even then, I could only afford a lesser-known band who is out of their prime popularity (Cake)
I want a ticket with a short price and a loooooooong concert
Omg another Cake lover in the wild!!
2019 for me. 4 tickets for like 130 bucks. Now one ticket is over that x.x. Just can’t afford it.
it’s sad our kids aren’t going to know getting a $30 ticket to a show and going. i’m 37 and have 4 kids, i went to PLENTY of concerts growing up and it’s just unattainable now. not because of kids, but just for me and my husband to go to anything. it’s so far out of reach now.
this is why I listen to bands that a lot of people don't know about lol. I saw movements for like $30 last year
The days of the $30 tickets are alive and well in the punk and hardcore scenes
Right but when the other genres were 30 bucks, there were 10, so its still shitty
I was gonna say, I go to 4-5 shows a month and max I'm willing to pay is $60 after taxes and fees. Most of the shows I see are $20-30 and this is the Bay Area which is notoriously expensive. I don't even consider my music taste underground or anything, usually the shows are sold out, I just don't listen to pop music or go to anything in venues bigger than a theatre (sound is bad there anyway) 😅
I saw smashing pumpkins with our Lady peace for 75 dollars cad (barely 50 usd) and placebo for 60. All massive bands from the 90s and 00s. I've seen hundreds of announced concerts in that price range from well knwo band. Most of the overly expensive ones are artists for 14yos like Taylor Swift, Travis Scott and other artists that are terrible live like eilish (yes she's great on record)
Last year I won front section seats to Beyoncé’s renaissance tour. (Eleventh row, Wooh!) My parents encouraged me to consider selling them since they were easily going at least 1k a piece (in usd) and obvs I could do a lot with that money, but I explained that even if I didn’t actively follow her, how else was I going to get the opportunity to see an objectively amazing entertainer. I don’t regret it because it was really fun having amazing seats at least once in my life, but I still won’t spend even 200 hundred for artists I do love 😂 Ronny chieng’s tour came by my city and seats were 140 and it was still a total hell nah for me lol
You made the right choice. That tour was a *historical event.*
I still remember that night so vividly
sooooooo true. i would give up my soul to experience it again 😭
$140 for Ronny Chieng?!? I like him a lot but WTF who is going to these shows - wealthy homogeneous crowds..?
I’m praying Beyoncé holds off on the Cowboy Carter tour til next year cause I am broke right now 😭
I hope she waits until part 3 comes out and then tours! And those all of the albums. That would make the most scene tbh
Concerts are so expensive now. Back when I was in college I remember we would all go see popular artists for like $30 max 😭 i may also just be old lol but nowadays it feels like the prices are like, Vegas prices now no matter who you see. Kinda discouraging. If an artist is too huge now, I just assume it’s out of my price range.
A huge part of this is that before social media, only actual fans went to these shows. Now people go because it's a cool event.
That's not bad tho! Concerts are entertainment and everyone should be able to attend, not only fans. Maybe some people become more invested after watching them perform. The problem is class disparity, as with most things these days
I got front row tickets to a show fairly recently and it blew my mind a lot of the people also up front weren’t hardcore fans - just people there to see and be seen - reminds me of people who travel just to flex… they got to these concerts as some status dopamine hit and not for music
Smaller artists are still great. I saw Ethel Cain for about $45 and Rina Sawayama for similar. Chappell Roan was similar but she now did Coachella so idk.
I just discovered Chappell and am so obsessed
I just looked up tickets to some of her upcoming shows and they’re sold out (yay for her!) with resell prices in the $600-1000 range 😬
I mean...how long ago was that?
This has become the new normal now sadly
Its funny because every time i venture into other subreddits talking about concert prices, everyone is always like, “what? I never pay more than 50 bucks for a concert ticket!”. So a lot of people either are out of touch in today’s concert landscape, or they only see small/indie artists because anyone who has been to an even remotely popular artist within the last 5 years will tell you $50 dollar tickets will get you no where but the nosebleeds lol
Yeah I wouldn't expect to see an arena tour with a major artist for less than $100 minimum (before fees). Even that would seem like a good deal in this current landscape where it seems like it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get tickets to these popular shows.
Simple fix: don't go to the concerts. Complaining online and then buying the tickets anyway won't solve anything and will just encourage them to raise prices for the next tour, since they know people will keep buying them.
i mean, that choice is already made for most people who can't afford it, which is the issue
the people outraged and the people buying the tickets are not the same
I mean, this is only a "fix" if you have a reasonable expectation that enough people will make the same choice to make a difference. You don't have any such expectation for concert tours by popular artists. There are a lot more people who want tickets than there are tickets. If I choose to stand on principle and don't go because the price is higher than I'd prefer, there's a dozen people who will be happy to snatch up the ticket I passed on. There's no illusion that I'm adding anything towards solving the problem, I'm straight up just cheating myself out of something I wanted to experience and getting on a high horse about it. I don't know what the solution to skyrocketing ticket prices is, or if there is a solution at all, but for so long as there is more demand than supply, not going to the concert doesn't affect the artist's bottom line at all.
There is no simple fix or else it would have already happened.
What bothers me more is that her album isn’t even released yet. How very presumptuous that these tickets are even worth the money. Obviously fans will just want to see her regardless if the music is good
Yeah, nobody is deciding to see her on the strength of a new album though.
https://preview.redd.it/lcp0kksbu8yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=890ba6fd675b30a24e8c0d95acb828a22bd18373 Look at what I found for the Dublin show 🥴
How the fuck is it double the price of a standing ticket in the UK?! I know Ireland is expensive to tour in but €335?!!!! ETA: it seems she's using surge pricing. Some UK standing tickets now up to £240. Such a shitty way to price tickets.
Saw seating for some of the England shows hit £300+. Absolute insanity. Am I fuck paying that much to sit on a plastic seat with my knees under my chin, wiping blood of my nose because I'm up in the nosebleeds.
I don't know why anyone goes to these large stadium shows. Legit my worst nightmare.
I went to one and I’ll never go again. I felt claustrophobic and anxious the entire time…
Yeah I thought about getting tix for my niece and I and they’re $$$$. She’s 13 and I don’t even know if she will still be a Billie fan next year - know what I mean? 13 is when you’re figuring shit out and what’s cool today could be boring tomorrow. SORRY, KID lol
Last year I bought two tickets for The Cure and I thought I made a mistake and only bought one because the total cost was about $75. Then a week later Ticketmaster refunded about $10 of it because the band complained. God bless Robert Smith.
Robert Smith and his all caps tweets fighting Ticketmaster was my favorite thing of 2023
Bless him indeed.
Which proves it IS possible to not do these prices!
I remember a video circulating where Nirvana can’t believe that Madonna was charging $50 for tickets . I would give anything for the most expensive ticket for a concert to be $50. 😭
To be fair, with inflation that $50 would $113 in 2024. That's definitely lower than tickets for most A-list singers concerts are going for, but still not exactly affordable.
While that is still expensive, I think $113 would be a bargain for an arena/stadium concert. Especially if it was good seats or floor tickets.
$50 in that year would probably be about $130 today. So it was quite high.
Just remember, her and her team don’t give a fuck about her fans.
Her fans don’t give a fuck about her either. It’s always been transactional.
ya and? i still want to see her in concert. why do people always say this shit like it’s supposed to make me enjoy the music less?
It's her fault - The Cure last year did a great job of keeping tickets reasonable and off the resale market, even with the awful Ticketmaster involved.
Not sure if the prices in the article include fees, but £145 = $181 US dollars, and this amount is pretty standard for any arena sized show in the US. I’m not surprised or even outraged by that price; it’s just standard and to be expected now. I used to go to 10+ shows a year with decent seats for all of them and post-Covid I just have to pick 2-3 favorites. I did read that at least for the US she is not allowing tickets to be sold on third party sites or resold for higher than face value, which I really respect.
I had the same reaction as you. I'm Canadian and those prices don't seem that high to me compared to what I've paid for other shows and that was a few years ago. Is shitty ticket pricing just now showing up in the UK?
Nah that’s insane for the UK. Going to see some of our biggest bands is half that price. For example, standing tickets to Arctic Monkeys last summer was £75ish. And I know a lot of people who would consider that too expensive. You’d expect those sort of prices for Beyoncé or Taylor Swift, but you’d also expect there to be cheaper seats available.
If these concerts are still selling out then I guess the prices weren't "too expensive". Just your daily reminder that celebrities aren't your friends and capitalism ruins everything it touches. It's a metastasizing cancer on the planet and the human spirit.
£145 for a pit ticket is insane. I remember paying 70 euros for a pit ticket for Muse a few years ago, in a big stadium. Muse was (still is ?) extremely popular, the tickets were selling out in minutes, so I don’t think Billie’s ticket prices here are being fair.
I saw The Weeknd last year on his stadium tour and it was £90 for a standing ticket. He was the biggest artist in the world at that point. Absolutely insane how much Billie is charging when arguably bigger artists have sold tickets for much less than she is.
I saw Muse in 2004 in a concert venue that was converted from an old church for $30. Held about 500 people and is still the best show I’ve ever seen.
Yep, the difference in price between rock and pop acts is frankly astonishing
Remember when music was accessible to the masses?! It’s insane how much the everyday population get priced out of everything
fun is being paywalled
You pay out the ass then they herd you like cattle into the venue. The whole experience has gone to shit unless you’re paying for the big VIP tix. The way the other half lives is crazy compared to the rest of us.
This makes me so grateful that I was a teen in the 90s. I saw so many bands and artists who went on to be massive for, like, £6-£8? I’m sure that even arena gigs cost £30 at the absolute most.
This was the only natural result from artists not being able to make money selling albums. They have to tour to make the money and they have to drive up ticket prices.
Here's another point where I think she's just a total contradiction of herself, anyone remember her raging about multiple editions of vinyl records despite being guilty of doing that herself? She's fake af.
for an album not even out yet with a day’s notice of presale. i find it ironic that she talked about the vinyls and yet she’s essentially doing the same thing.
My father paid $14 for a front row seat to U2’s Joshua Tree tour What the fuck.
I tried going to an Olivia Rodrigo concert and everything about this process is broken. Look at this fuckin ticket someone listed - Ticketmaster some bitches. Btw these tickets never sold. Just going to waste. From original high ticket prices to reselling - it’s sad. Regulate this shit. https://preview.redd.it/ywe23woc99yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea1489c0ec09f8071e866f321231888e12ba0b9a
she said save the planet but not your wallets
I remember when I was younger I used to go to concerts sooo often. And it was good bands not like friends of friends bands. It was so cheap and fun. That’s how I got so into Muse cause I casually went to their gig cause I was mildly interested. With these prices there’s no way I would ever go to a concert if I am not a huge fan of the artist.
I went to a festival with Muse simply because I knew a few songs, and they blew me away. Same with The Kills and Kasabian. Went to a bunch of bands I liked as a kid even though I didn't care about them anymore just to please my 13 year old self too. Now I can't afford going to even one show, wtf.
yeah i wanted to go but i’ll sit this out. to think i once i saw her for 5 dollars. 😭 i prefer going to concerts for smaller artists at this point, typically reasonable.
It may not be her, Ticketbastard has the exclusive ticket rights to most large venues and once those thieving scumbags are involved, grit your teeth and grab your ankles
I checked out some nosebleed tickets, and they STARTED at $214 each. With Ticketmaster fees, that’s at least $250. That’s pure insanity.
it’s insane. i went to look at o2 priority, for *ONE seat* at the very back it was £394. no thanks.
It worries me tremendously I wasn't even shocked by the ticket price, I thought it would be higher. Who can buy concert tickets anymore? Who can afford groceries anymore? Is everyone just in debt?
This is the cost of not paying for music. Tours used to lose money as they’d drive album sales. Now the album sales drive the exorbitant prices of the tour.
She’s become too posh and money focused now. It kills me to say it but, when you factor in the low quality - high price of the merch this is evidence that she is becoming greedy and out of touch. What they don’t tell you is that Ticketmaster works within the numbers the artist decides. If Metallica wants to charge X for a ticket Ticketmaster and others will add their fees on top of that, but the initial base price is set by the artist.
Tour timing is SO WEIRD now? Idk if I've never paid attention to it before but I've noticed that tour announcements are happening *before* the release of a new album. What if the new album sucks? I've had that happen before and thankfully didn't have any tickets to sell but could you imagine blowing a couple hundred dollars and not liking what will arguably be most of the work performed at the gig? There used to be stark cost differences between venues; smaller/lesser known ones being cheapest, "theaters" being mid-tier, and then arenas being the most expensive (and I'm talking *close* to $100 for that). Festivals were the ones where you'd spent a couple hundred for multiple days! Going to one gig for a couple hundo is ridiculous!
Isn't this the result of our collective disinterest in buying the physical music? Streaming has killed a large source of revenue for the artists, and companies alike. So, they decided to take it out on fans at the ticket booth. Doesn't make it right, but it's the state that we're in. Don't know how we're ever going back to the days of affordable tickets.
Greed > InFlatioN
That doesn’t even count the overpriced food and beverages. 16oz Miller light is like $18.
Ppl keep paying and going. It will only get worse.
Man, times like this I’m grateful I like gutter punk and death metal. Most I’ve paid for a show is like £25, not counting festivals.
Noah Kahan is playing at Fenway over the summer, and the cheapest tickets I could find were over $500 before fees. Granted, there’s not a ton of tickets left, but for shitty seats the price is ridiculous. He’s a good artist, but no one is worth $500.
Ticketmaster must be put down like a dog that won't hunt lol. Where's Noem when you need her?
Imagine thinking your mediocre music was worth paying that much for.
To buy tickets for a tour for an album you might not hear before going is crazy