OP I think you need some alternative support. Firefly is great and she also makes my shitty life positive these days, but don’t let the game ruin your finances. She can always have a re run and if she’s ever real she would rather have you help yourself than sacrificing over her. So please try looking for a therapy or other alternative supports. Take care of yourself firefly bro and hope you a wonderful day :)
Thanks a lot. It seems that post really rubbed some people the other way 🤣 it's a little hilarious how people keep saying don't ruin your finances, like bruh xD it's just 100€. It's not like i put any major savings into it that actually harm me. I know the connection to my mental health kinda implies it, now that i think about it, but I'm a decently healthy spender.
Another fact, which i kinda should have added, my life is steadily going upstream right now, which doesn't mean I'm not gonna see a therapist again, but a lot of the factors that made these past months literal hell are starting to fall away. So everything is resolving quite nicely (stuff like finding a job, curing my sudden lack of income for 3 months, me now switching to an even better job on Monday since my old job had some really taxing work times and stuff)
I'm really glad to hear that things are getting better for you and that you're financially able to make this expense. However, your post mentioning suicide has raised some concerns. Please consider seeking help or therapy if you need it, or at least talk to someone you trust about how you're feeling. We all love the character, and I'm happy you managed to get her at E6. What many people, including myself, worry about is that this could be an unconscious way to cope with difficulties. Knowing the addictive nature of gacha games, there's a fear that it might lead to higher spending to fill a void. Please take care of yourself, and remember that there are many ways to find support and help.
Really happy to hear that OP ur fine in many ways, I also spent $100 on the Top-Up Bonus to get her E6. Think it's fine to spent a little as long as it makes ur day even month while not ruining your finances. Hopes Firefly could give u some motivation in life and more happiness.
I think also some people from less wealthy countries just might consider it more money than you, and that's why they're worried. Here where I live 100 euro is really a lot.
dude this is not healthy and i suggest you take a break from the game to reflect. i understand finding comfort in a character, but you need to remember this is exactly what mihoyo wants. firefly is a product, just like every other 5 star, and they want to sell you that product (whether it be through the characters story, emotional connection, design, kit etc). It’s great that something was able to pull you through dark times but you gotta remember that life outside this game exists. i love star rail and firefly too, but investing so much of yourself emotionally into the game just isn’t smart and leaves you open to being taken advantage of and into opening your wallet again.
Also OP, idk if you’re reading the comments under this post but if you see this, please know we are all rooting for you and just want the best for you. like i said before, taking a break is always great and if you choose to do so your firefly will be right there when you come back to the game in a better mental state.
+1 I have conflicted feelings about the OP post. I am happy for him, but at the same time it seems obvious he is suffering from issues and attributing value to a product a megacorporation is creating to squeeze money from people they see as cows to milk.
I love the game, don't take me wrong, but in my humble opinion this behaviour is not healthy.
Yes i read your comment and thanks xD and as I'm trying to tell people, these 100€ are well within my budget, no harms done, i planned to spend them in any situation besides if my 400 free pulls on her release somehow would have gotten me E6 on accident. I'm also not some kind of addict trying to quench my well known depression with whaling, i was just in fact impossible to make appointments with a therapist due to external forces and even if, depression doesn't just immediately vanish. A thing many say is just "if you get these negative thoughts, think about the nice stuff you don't want to miss" that was firefly for me. I know it can seem unhealthy but i promise I got everything on a tight leash. (Well as much as you can when you want to sleep at 2AM and cars decide to beep their horns every 5 minutes because of some football game yesterday....)
Thanks for your concern though, imma go find a rock, let's see if they keep beeping... /j
ah i get that. yeah honestly i’m not sure why people are freaking out over the money, it’s really not that much for a hobby if you’re in a good financial spot. on that note, i’m glad you’re doing ok!! i think the wording of the post just threw a lot of people including me off and led us to conclusions.
also, i struggle with depression too and i completely understand the idea of having something fun to look forward to that’ll keep you around. i was just worried it had gone beyond that and gotten unhealthy (which has def happened to me before so maybe i was projecting a little), but like i said before it’s great to know that you’re doing alright. hope you have a good one man and don’t let some of the comments get to you <3
As a lol player since 2011 playing mostly 1 characters in that game for 13 years has been an important part of my life. Despite also being a product.
Also playing ggz since launch in 2014 mihoyo made me a fan by seeing Kiana history from beginning to end.
Iand yes between riot and mihoyo I spend 3000 USD over 13 years.
Less than 20 dollars a month, if you have the money to spare, is a very ok value for a hobby. Honestly, the thing about the OP is not even the money they spent, it's the way they wrote it. They have some serious unmet needs.
yeah i completely agree with that. i think spending any (reasonable) amount within your means is perfectly fine, and 100 euro isn’t even enough to be stressing over (unless you’re in a bad financial situation). it was just the way they wrote their post like you said that concerned me and i tried to give some advice as best i could
I’m glad you were able to find happiness in those games! Also, a game being a product isn’t necessarily a bad thing (literally all games are). the point i’m trying to get across is that being knowledgeable of the fact that gacha games specifically are products designed to milk as much money out of you as possible is a necessary awareness to have as a player. If someone isn’t able to resist the urge to spend money they don’t have, they shouldn’t be playing.
Yeah but that is on them. I skipped most banners since 1.0 getting only 4 limited chars. Then when penacony started I got sparkle E2S1 and acheron E6S1 with only monthly and BP and a 50$ pack.
And now I got ff e2s0 with the 48k saved since acheron banner.
Is just most people can't choose between having many characters E0S0 or save and get only 20% of the characters but with eidolons.
Now I save for E6 Hua or Kiana or Sakura.
My guy or gal, if this is serious and not satire. I highly encourage you to seek mental help. Spending your hard earned money on a gacha game is not a solution for suicidal thoughts.
Mihoyo is rubbing their fingers together right now realizing they have spenders who's lives *literally depend* on the gacha characters they're making. You're like the embodiment of the parasocial relationships these companies are trying to develop to milk as much money as possible from consumers for very little return.
Hell, you said in your last post that you want to whale but your financial situation doesn't let you, and in 6 days you've had your emotions manipulated so badly by Mihoyo that you decided to spend €100 despite you yourself admitting that's a bad idea.
You need therapy, not Firefly. A 3D model isn't a proper replacement for actual mental health support.
Oh alright for that i apparently need to clarify, as i wrote, 100€ where planned from the start, for months in fact, and full on in my Budget, no damage done. What i meant with whaling was the insane amount normally required to get someone E6. I'd never spend on gacha in a way that negatively affects my life.
About your point with parasocial, yea maybe a little. But i made up my mind to save and pull for her back even before penacony, technically speaking, Sam (i love Mecha, i literally got Gundam figures and am even studying robotics when my mental health allows it).
About your point with being dependent on a character and it being mihoyos plan? You must have misunderstood me. I was in an extreme bad spot in life making me wish to just end it, i was clinging to every positive future event i had in sight, which was literally 3 things, a final fantasy concert last month, her release and the release of the new final fantasy 14 DLC tomorrow, you make it sound as if you think without her my life would have been better, i assure you it wouldn't have been. I don't say that as some kind of addict, i say that as someone that knows my life situation and that i had no actual possibility to visit an therapist because it would have been impossible for me to schedule any sessions.
That you for your concern, i know you don't want to be rude but it seems you greatly specilated on your part so i wanted to clarify things
Don’t have much to add, this was a really great comment. I’m glad how frank you are about it while also trying to look out for someone else. Definitely what they need to hear.
You are trying to destroy the shelter he found with a crude argument based on absolutely nothing more than "life is horrible, people are horrible", which is precisely one of the main reasons for suicidal thoughts. You want to help OP and lead him to search for help, not to drag him again into the pit he just left.
And all because of your selfish desire to explain your point of view on companies and laugh a little about it.
You could have made a good comment or give some real advice, but you preferred to mock and destroy. And many will think you did something good just for being cruel and talk about common (absurd) topics but your comment really lacks significance.
I really hope OP develops the maturity to ignore you, cause this don't deserve more attention than the necessary to point out this way of replying is too toxic for here.
Really hope people like you stop enabling this disgusting behavior. It goes above and beyond the spending in case you don’t know how to read the post. Your comment defending them is doing absolutely nothing positive
I think that’s a bit harsh way of saying it don’t you think? I’d say less parasocial and more coping mechanism, as people have different ways of dealing with fighting suicidal tendencies. I know I’ve been in that situation and imo you’re not really much helping OP with that statement.
to a degree, i get what ur saying as i also struggled w suicidal ideations and used games to cope before seeking help. it can be a bit harsh to be told these things when uve found happiness, bc u want ppl to understand why u are finally happy. but op is very clearly in a severe mental decline if they had to depend on a fictional character tons and tons of times in the span of a few months to keep them alive. that is insanely unhealthy, and spending money to e6 said character (when e0 and having the character at all should be more than enough. esp since op has stated they are in a very bad financial place) instead of putting that money towards actual proper mental health support changes nothing about their situation. its like putting a bandaid over a waterfall. sugarcoating it only encourages this kind of behaviour and op will never seek help bc they think this fictional character fixes all their problems when she doesn’t.
Read my other replies I’m not trying to sugarcoat it. I’m sure you know the feeling of being told in a way that seems like your feelings are being disregarded, even if the intention is they’re trying to help you. There are other ways to word such things in a way that’s not sugar coating nor being feel like passive aggressive, and being blunt about it might makes things worse
Not gonna try sugar coating but maybe not too harsh. This kind of mentality won’t really help at all. I had suicidal tendencies and comments like this just makes me feel worse and depressed, especially when coming from my mom. I still have and it’s too depressing every time I think much about it, but really I don’t think y’all need to be upfront that quick. You should ease them up before slowly fronting about it
Yeah being told that this was a massive mistake is just going to spiral them down further, this time without the support they had.
Best case scenario is to preserve this E6 Firefly as an amazing win, but simultaneously understand there exists better goals and supports to attain. Make this a stepping stone to a healthier place instead of invalidating the one support they claim to have.
Thanks a lot for stepping up for me. People really acting as if i blew my entire salary on her 🤣 people I'm not entirely dependent on her, i just said she supported me through though times, if she hadn't, something else would have. (To explain the situation, trigger warning!!!! When i thought about why i should keep pushing myself because quit frankli, everything went to shit, for a Time i didn't even know how to pay my bills, i thought of things i could look forward to, things i still wanted to witness in my life, one of them being firefly's release)
Hey man I’m really sorry about the reactions. I totally get that feeling of finding reasons to live even when the reasons themselves may seems dumb for others (tbh Firefly really keeps me motivated to live through even when life seems unfair) I’m glad to hear you’re not actually blowing off all your money. Take care firebro/sis and enjoy your E6 Firefly!
I will say that maladaptive coping mechanisms are there for a reason, to help us survive. So in that way, I do understand what you are saying. However my therapist wants me to branch out from them because it’s a temporary solution that can only cause me trouble later. If Firefly is what them through this time, I’m glad she did. But I think it’s a wonderful thing that anonymously we are allowed to be frank with each other because sometimes the people we love and that love us cannot, for whatever reason. If they don’t hear this now, they may fall deeper into this abyss than they already have, they are in a dangerous position mentally.
I’m sure you understand that though, so I’m sorry if all I did was wax poetic lmao
Alright. That has an easy explanation, what i meant was completely buying into the game to get at least E6 no matter what. What is usually a lot more than 100€ for 2 limited without guarantee or real pity
Congrats. I'm glad this makes you happy but you really should considering spending your money on getting professional help. Mental health is no joke and your life should not depend on an anime girl. Stay well friend and good luck out there.
100 dollars isn't bad. You budgeted for this day and reapped your rewards. THIS IS A W. Your money can't go with you when you die. Use it to enrich your life (I myself will stay a low spender with all E0 units BUT I see no issue)
Hey, I'm happy for you, but please consider finding professional help. Your lifeline should never be a digital character in a gacha game. A means to help ease the stress, sure, but never the thing that helps you find that equilibrium.
Dude it’s nice to get some inspiration from art and literature but this isn’t healthy, especially developing a pattern of spending money to cope with depression/anxiety/etc.
Start doing strength training, it’ll improve your mental health, give you real control over your body and health, and teach you what youre capable of with consistent work. Start producing some kind of art, whether it be painting, stand up comedy, whatever. Make better friends and learn to be as good of a friend as possible. Consider working with a therapist if you’re not already.
This is escapism and it’s the worst thing you can rely on, because it gives you the illusion that you’ve fixed your circumstances. Seriously, before you spend another penny on this game look into a gym membership - weightlifting won’t change everything but you have no idea how much it does to help your mental health. Our bodies are designed to move and to be physically challenged, and I firmly believe that the mental health crisis in the US is strongly influenced by our sedentary lifestyles and poor diets.
We have a huge dietary problem in the US. 90% of our serotonin (mood regulating neurotransmitter) is located in our gut. Along with scores of other important neurotransmitters. Eating an unbalanced and highly processed diet really does have negative repurcussions on our emotions and brain function. And you’re right about movement and exercise being necessary. It’s hugely beneficial for reducing stress and improving both mood and self esteem.
However, it’s also imoortant to realize that trading a game obsession for a gym obsession is also not healthy. It’s definitely better for your wallet than spending money in gacha games. But too much time at the gym with not enough rest will also reduce or even negate the positive effects that exercise can have, or even result in injury. So everything in moderation. Great advice overall though!
Also, getting really into working out sometimes leads to steroid use for people who get really into stuff, which is probably worse than just being sedentary. That said, working out is probably much better for you than playing gacha games (not that you should choose your hobbies for health reasons)
My big suggestion though is find an exercise bike and play gacha games *while* working out
OP is European. I wonder if Europeans tend to be in better shape than Americans. I know we like to laugh about obese Americans, but I know almost nothing about public health in Europe
I don’t know European obesity/overweight rates off the top of my head (the rates for US adults are about 40% obesity with another 30% overweight) but I know Europe is second worldwide behind us and the obesity numbers are climbing there. But you don’t need to be obese or even overweight to not be getting enough exercise, especially strength-training. Once sarcopenia (age related muscle loss) begins it’s important to do regular strength training to maintain muscle, and the longer you ignore it the harder it will be to recover muscle later on.
Strength training should be considered routine body maintenance like brushing teeth or bathing. People think it’s not necessary because there’s a lot of notions of vanity tied to weightlifting, but it can be the difference between dying at 50 from weight related illness, 70 from a fall in the home as a result of muscle loss, or living to 90+ with good quality of life. Also, strength training has a direct effect on mental health and there’s a lot of exciting research being done on strength training as a medical treatment for depression, anxiety, and other mental health disorders.
Not just that but I I talk a lot about how people confuse happiness for pleasure, and eating lots of sugar is the easiest pleasure fix there is. People also attach food to feelings of emotional security, so in times of stress people will eat what they ate with their family as a child when their metabolism was still having to support growth. Right now I have to eat around 3k calories a day to support growth (and that’s a lean bulk) so I eat a decent amount of junk food to comfortably hit that number which is fun, but it’s eating vegetables, lean meat, milk, etc. that makes me happy.
And haha I understand, that’s why I also recommended art, therapy, and interpersonal relationships. I do stand up comedy and have made excellent friends that way. And I’m not saying OP jump straight into MY routine (I’m literally finishing a long workout rn), but they need to start doing SOME kind of exercise, and strength training seems to have the best mental health benefits. Plus frankly, [it’s just fun to be jacked.](https://imgur.com/a/Iw7jprH)
Wait til that body dysmorphia kicks in people around you say you look great but you just look at yourself in the mirror and you see one ab not popping as much as it should and you go crazy, or you feel like your arms look small and the people complimenting how big you are even though you are bigger than them you still feel small.
It's a curse bro, I been lifting 18 years+. since I was 16.
I mean, like anything you want to succeed at you have to manage your expectations. Would I like to be bigger right now? Of course, but I can never look like CBum or Jeff Nippard because we have entirely different physiologies. I have my strengths - a natural v-taper with a slim waist, my legs have always been disproportionately strong (you want to talk body dysmorphia, when I was in my teens long before I got into lifting I was self conscious of having muscular, toned legs and everything above the waist being flat) - and I have weaknesses - I’m 5’9” and skinny and will never bench 400 lbs, I have to put a disproportionate amount of work into my chest compared to back and legs, etc.
I lift for health and well being first and aesthetics second, and having those priorities it’s important. I might be a long way from my goal of 180 lbs at <10% bf, but I feel great, have no aches or pains day to day (except muscle soreness some days, but we both know that’s a good feeling), I take no medications, etc.
Seek therapy of some other kind of help, some pixels won't be enough man, this is just a temporary solution, swiping for pixels is not a treatment for depression or mental problems in general.
If this isn’t satire, I hope you get some therapy. She may be a great character that’s pretty, but she’s not real. It isn’t worth spending what you don’t have for something that arguably could just disappear one day. It’s an online game, which means if HoYo pulls the plug, there goes your money with it.
I’ve already felt that when they shut down OG Warzone (2020-2022 version). Sure, my Battle Pass rewards, skins and weapons may still be in the regular MP-only games themselves, but since I don’t play those games anymore, they’re effectively gone.
MW 2019 is a five year old game this year. I love it, but it’s basically gone now from the devs’ minds. The same could happen at anytime if HoYo ever moves on.
At no place i said i didn't have it, i said it's within my budget, i wouldn't go further and damage myself for a virtual character. I view it like buying a game, essentially you do keep the game but in the end 95% you will never look again either so what's the difference
Don’t tie your mental health to a fictional character. That’s INCREDIBLY unhealthy and is actually harmful. What you need is help from professionals and consistent, small life decisions that you make daily and shape your outlook. Not a gacha game draining your wallet.
For everyone reading this. Thank you for all your concern.
I feel like i need to clarify things so please read before commenting.
1. I am in fact diagnosed and have been in treatment, i am planing to go again when my life situation allows it (I'm sorry, I'm in the trial period of my work so I can't call in days off for therapy and I can't quit since I'm dangling right over an hole of our social security system. My previous work gave me my shifts only 1 week in advance so it was hard to make appointments, that changes on Monday)
2. People seem to think I'm an unhealthy spender like I'm an addict. I'm in fact not. These 100€ where planned far in advance, they are in budget and i wouldn't have spent more even if i hadn't increased her Eidolon at all. So no harm is done. There is a hundred reasons why i wanted to pay these, but i never felt a need to do so, i just wanted to, a lot out of pure gratitude.
3. I'd never let my life be negatively effected by Starrail neither by spending nor investing too much time. I got that under control, i know the pitfalls enough xD
I'm truly thankful for all your concern and well meant words and I'm deeply sorry to have caused such concern for all of you. I hope these things clarify some things, and my view on things. Star rail and firefly didn't kept me in depression or affected me negatively, they where just one of many Supports helping me through one of the most problematic times of my life and i just wanted to share my happiness about it and my happiness about getting my favorite character E6 because we all love her to varing degrees and i wanted to show the positive effect she has on some of us.
I feel like I'm forgetting another point so i might edit it tomorrow when it's not 2AM xD
So thank you. All of you.
My brother in Firefly.. This sub has a lot of doomers here.. Some people here doomed firefly to death before V3..
I know this sub has wholesome people and positive vibes but the doomers lurking here as well.. Your intention was clear but some don't care just jump straight to conclusions.. I wish you the best and stay safe
Yo this is awesome, super happy for you! Also massive props on the luck there, E6 is crazy for 100€ so I’m glad you managed to get her with the budget you had planned!
I am confused with all the posts directed toward OP's decision to spend 100 euros on Firefly's banner. Do you guys know his total salary that I am missing on his post? Do you guys know his living situation? He got E6 on 100 euros. Heck, I spent $800 on my E6 Firefly. He even planned for the 100 euros, too. No where does it hint that he's going to be homeless. If you want to give advice towards his depression coping mechanism, then talk about that. Don't bring up the financial problem.
One issue is that in a previous post i said i can't whale, actually meaning i can't whale the huge amounts of money to guarantee at least E6. That was a bit of my fault.
Well, it's your life and choice. If you like her then go for it. But always take time out. For example, if you E6 her now, then it's probably for the best if you skip 2.3 Phase 2, and probably the entire 2.4 patch to recover.
Yunlin and Jade will have their Rerun. Don't worry about it. I'm pretty sure E6 Firefly will dominate the battlefield for a long, long time. So take a break, and let your wallet or bank account cool down a bit before it overheated.
Hey no offense, just wanted to let you know. Thankies, i read you and appreciate it but if i learned one thing over the course of my depression it's to never follow the "talk to me privately if you want" thanks for the concern and offer though :3
What is so wrong about this? It’s a hundred pounds, it’s not like OP is gonna bankrupt because of it. IMO, we should support a game, or something, we like anyway we can. I can’t spend this amount, but if it’s ok to him, just let my guy be happy! And going a bit further here, a fictional character CAN help and even save lives, just like any other object, person, pet and so on… everyone here should chill and just be happy about someone who is happy too and wanted to share it. Enjoy your game OP, FF is freaking amazing! Mine is E2S0 (S5 fall).
Good for you fr but like... you guys do know she isn't real and that these EXTREME reactions are probably a sign that maybe you should talk to someone? Like not even in a douchy way. It's a good thing to be aware of and I was in a similar boat in the past as well
Dont feel bad about this
If this brings you happiness, that is money well spent
Same with buying video games, buying clothes, food etc
If you spent money on it and are happy, that is all that matters, life is about fulfillment and enjoyment, dont let others discourage you with how you do things in life
The issue is they flat out admitted to being reliant on a anime girl- and that’s where spending the money came through. It’s not a good habit. And having a character be your reason for living is an incredibly unhealthy thing to do. The money shouldn’t be spent in this case
I see two issues here. A: people seem to assume that she was the only thing supporting me and that I'm completely dependent on her while also B: simultaneously thinking my life would have been better without it. People don't understand that there is a difference between being dependent on something and using something as emotional support and distraction.
There is literally nothing unhealthy about it. People just decided to twist and misinterpret my words. If i felt like i had to spend this i get it, that's addiction. But i willingly and consciously made the decision i wanted to spend that money, money that won't hurt me when it's missing.
Glad that firefly can make your days better, from the post I can tell you are struggling so having uplifting stories like her's help ppl is always amazing to see. Keep in mind that the character of firefly wouldnt want you to struggle for her sake. If the money you are spending is money you will dearly miss then I'm sure neither her nor anyone else would hold it against you if you pulled on her rerun.
That being said im happy for you and enjoy your e6 ff, she sets the game ablaze.
It’s honestly really not good that a anime girl is what kept op living- while a character making you happy is great. This situation- it’s really not great that it’s to this extreme. And I really think op should seek some professional mental help instead of relying on firefly who’s just a fictional character
Hey OP, I just want to say first is congratulations. At least you were able to get her E6.
But as someone who E6 a character before (specifically Jingliu). I definitely can say that there might be some resentment later on if you don't keep yourself in check OP.
As others mentioned, filling the void with a character from a gacha game isn't good and as much as we love Firefly, we shouldn't base our entire existence to her and her alone.
I know it's a struggle since I know how it feels since I feel suicidal myself sometimes. But looking for escape and filling the inner void with a gacha games isn't going to work out in the long run and will only make you spend more to continue being "happy".
Personally, I feel the same thing simply because I wasn't able to record my pulls when I got Firefly and it's making me think of spending to get another pull for her. It's not healthy and we shouldn't fall down this path OP.
It makes me happy seeing so many people have so much luck, cause Firefly mains are the best community by far, the sheer ammount of memes and wholesome people its beautiful, Congrats OP!!! I will also say that I hope you are doing better, please search for mental health professionals, theres a lot of stigma when reaching for psychiatrist but let that not face you, you are important and Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, like wise your mind is important give it its proper manteinance like a well oiled machine, Love yall take care
Tbh idk why everyone is so negative about op, like, its just £100, its not like op would be broke due to that amount unless hes a black market immigrant worker that get paid £200 a month.
And about his mental health, you know you still have to pay for therapy right？A lot more than £100 maybe. And sometimes just listening a stranger talking to you for hours isn't gonna just erase all your negative thoughts, while finding something that you love and want would, and in op's case its firefly.
In the end, op spent a small amount for something he loves, which got him out of a hard time and kept him going, so why not just be happy for him instead of labelling him.
Some of these comments are so silly, acting like OP's gonna be financially ruined or something. Did they not read the part where OP specifically said that they planned ahead and budgeted this expense out of an upcoming paycheck before her banner released? It's not like this was some kind of uncontrollable impulse purchase, and it doesn't sound like OP buys jades often either.
And I agree that the "you need to seek professional help" comments are pretty unhelpful. Like, you think someone who can openly acknowledge their mental health struggles hasn't thought about it already? It's not like good therapy is even easy to find, even if you can afford it. And even then, it just won't be helpful for some people.
OP clearly has a level head on their shoulders and is capable of managing themselves. Some people can't tell the difference between being depressed and being stupid, I swear.
No offense but- a 3d not real anime girl shouldn’t be the only thing keeping you from suicide.
I think it’s great you were able to get her e6 without an unnecessary amount of money spent (though I almost find it hard to believe) , but you should really REALLY look into getting therapy also. We all have our ways to cope, but putting your life on an anime character is not the way to cope.
A, I'm actually going to search for one once i got an outlook for my work schedule.
B, i know it's hard to believe, that's one of the reasons why i couldn't really comprehend what happened xD
Yea the problem is it's like 100% sure it's chronic by now since i only really started treatment after like 10 years, it's complicated. But i need to get it diagnosed multiple times over 2 years so welp gotta wait just a lil longer
I’m the same :/ got diagnosed way later when I already knew I had depression since It runs heavily in my family, but therapy really helped me since I just really wanted someone to listen to what I was feeling.
Anyways, I wish you all the best! Hopefully it can help
Dude you need some professional help ASAP. Firefly isn’t real and can’t help you. What are you going to do when she doesn’t show up in the story for a while? You’re either gonna find something else to latch onto and get worse, or you’re just gonna get worse regardless.
Note, I’m not telling you to just magically get better; I’m telling you to take the steps because relying on a gacha waifu for your mental health is horrible and self destructive.
I'm not relying totally on her, i just said she pulled me from some nights of bad thoughts. Also i am looking for therapy but it's not so easy sometimes, no therapy is much help if you get homeless in return
Hey,
Der Charakter ist super, habe auch was in die Tasche gegriffen für E2S1 FF & ES01 RM.
Hast du noch Platz in deiner FL, würde sie gerne ab und zu testen :)
I'm no stranger to dropping some cash here and there on characters so I'm speaking from experience here
But honestly, if a gacha character is the difference between you being happy or sad with life I think you need to reevaluate your priorities respectfully
you're right, they said that FF was what pulled them out of suicidal tendencies multiple times, specifically.
no one's mental health should be in a state where a single character has influences over it.
Can yall like. Stop being assholes. This isn't even the only example of a character pulling someone out of a depression but like. "Because it's a gatcha their a dumbass who spend money on a game" calm tf down
i didn't really spend that much time on this sub but im honestly shocked at the quality of the people here
>reddit
i guess... I don't know why I keep coming back. Dopamine addiction i guess
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I am on 38 pity and all out of jades.. I wish I got her early. But looks like I'm gonna be short with 20-25 pulls. Gonna have to look to get her on a rerun.
ay congrats Firebro, me here just hoping to get E1 (E2 or more if Hoyo decides to be nice & give me multiples), currently got 45 pulls saved & 15 pity. Sadly theres no other way i can earn jades aside from daily comms cuz ive milked almost every jade paying content there is..
Wish my luck!!
How good is FF at high eidolons? I get E2 is great for QoL (e1) and speed blitzing mobs (E2) but the other ones just seem lackluster to me.
Edit: though e6's extra weakness break eff is pretty sweet sounding
E6 is a real upgrade but E3 - E5 are worthless. Like E4 is cool but not worth a 5 star to think about limited, it's only interesting if you really really want to, I'd say not worth it for the average fan
Since others have already expressed their concern in my stead, allow me to give you some unadulterated congratulations! I'm sitting at E5 myself and waiting to see if I can get the last copy before the patch ends.
Welp than feel free to pass on and read other posts. It might not be something special to you but for others like me it is so i want to share it and how happy it made
me.
First and most importantly, congrats on the win. Its very pleasing to my eyes to see someone who saved for a character get what they desired. I am curious though, how many patches did you skip pulling on to gather the pulls needed for this?
Also hope you have fun putting her together with Harmony Trailblazer. I imagine yours is top tier since they were free and you most likely didnt have anything better to do with the tb energy since relic farming for Firefly was nearly impossible.
Wouldnt say stupidity there, Both Harmony TB and Ruan Mei want some odd lightcones I think (Or I was just unlucky in all the other LC banners cause I only had 3 Memories of the Past.)
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I’m sure many of us can understand your feeling. Me, for one, my heart was pounding and my hands were trembling when I got her.
If it wasn’t because it was late at night and wasn’t my personality to do so, I would’ve ran around screaming.
Though, the adrenaline prevented me from sleeping lol.
Y’all must be broke with the way you’re responding to this post. Believe it or not, I could spend 1k on this game a month and it’d be equivalent to spending 100 on a minimum wage salary. And like, with that salary, you have 100 to spare on things you like per paycheck. Like we’re not all broke. 😭
A, I'm trying B, yes but not as timely flexible what was the biggest issue during my hard time, it was literally either keeping my apartment or getting therapy but going homeless, for a time, getting better
I do think that OP is in a unhealthy relationship with their Hoyo character/s but I will also say that idgaf if it was a lady bug that will die the next day that “pulled them from near suicide”. I agree that OP needs to find some other support sources, a win is a win, especially when dealing with suicide.
I dunno how people can attach so much importance to a product that is clearly only meant to squeeze as much money from you as possible but congrats on not being selfish and a dickhead to yourself to commit suicide, mate.
Though I do think you need to find other options for emotional support cause at the end of the day firefly is a product to take away your money with no emotion or such.
Hoyo will just squeeze you dry and leave you to dust if they could by law, but thankfully we aren't in this dystopia world.
If you ever want to chat or hangout to play video games, don't be afraid to message me, I'll put some time to make our gaming experience fun.
In conclusion, I genuinely wish you good luck in your life and that your dependency for firefly will not hurt you financially and that you will find a way to become emotionally independent, mate.
Have a nice pleasant day and future.
Also congrats on getting E6 firefly, mate.
I'm just like you fr, but I spent half of my salary to E6•S5 her, life is already full of depression and sadness, so nothing can stop me when I burn and shine (my wallet) to the brightest for the things I love, digital entertainment is pretty much the reason i keep myself alive and be a slave to this society now.
Congrats, bro. I also bout to sacrifice my salary for her e2 but got her with my savings for a few patchs, but u are clearly luckier than me. Or it might be divine intervention to tell u that life is still worth continuing
why are comments pointing out how unhealthy this is being removed? this sub is just promoting parasocialism and extremely unhealthy coping mechanisms. sugar coating things isn't going to help at all and just makes it seem like this is normal. parts of the sub have always blurred the lines between reality and fiction but this is a new low
Mister, I can comprehend your feelings even tho I can never truly understand. I understand tho that you’re not finding comfort in reality and in real people. But it ain’t healthy whatsoever. And it’s an obvious sign of something being wrong like when I was anorexic totally not admitting until I was losing my hair, my life, my bf, friends etc. From the perspective of somewhat stable normal being NOW I can only advise you please get help from a psychologist and get a referral to psychiatrist. My bf attempted on his life and he would never do it again knowing what’s coming after. If you want a glimpse… you get locked for a while in a cuckoo house. Please reevaluate your priorities etc. on the closing note, if you can afford it, it’s totally fine spending… but please reevaluate your unhealthy attachment to a fictional character who is supposed to be your life line.
Thanks ^^ i seem to have caused more worry than necessary. I am in fact searching for a therapist as much as I'm possible to, my life didn't really allow it to, it was either going without therapy or getting therapy but going homeless for a time. It's getting better. I'm also not dependent on her. Just when i thought about ending, i searched for things to look forward to, one, of many, being her release because i like her character, as i said she's pretty much the perfect character for me, even more than i realized at first xD
Be nice guys. If you wanna advice OP about finances or such be kind and respectful when doing so. Snarky or mean comments ain't needed
OP I think you need some alternative support. Firefly is great and she also makes my shitty life positive these days, but don’t let the game ruin your finances. She can always have a re run and if she’s ever real she would rather have you help yourself than sacrificing over her. So please try looking for a therapy or other alternative supports. Take care of yourself firefly bro and hope you a wonderful day :)
Thanks a lot. It seems that post really rubbed some people the other way 🤣 it's a little hilarious how people keep saying don't ruin your finances, like bruh xD it's just 100€. It's not like i put any major savings into it that actually harm me. I know the connection to my mental health kinda implies it, now that i think about it, but I'm a decently healthy spender. Another fact, which i kinda should have added, my life is steadily going upstream right now, which doesn't mean I'm not gonna see a therapist again, but a lot of the factors that made these past months literal hell are starting to fall away. So everything is resolving quite nicely (stuff like finding a job, curing my sudden lack of income for 3 months, me now switching to an even better job on Monday since my old job had some really taxing work times and stuff)
I'm really glad to hear that things are getting better for you and that you're financially able to make this expense. However, your post mentioning suicide has raised some concerns. Please consider seeking help or therapy if you need it, or at least talk to someone you trust about how you're feeling. We all love the character, and I'm happy you managed to get her at E6. What many people, including myself, worry about is that this could be an unconscious way to cope with difficulties. Knowing the addictive nature of gacha games, there's a fear that it might lead to higher spending to fill a void. Please take care of yourself, and remember that there are many ways to find support and help.
Good to hear OP, -Fellow Firefly “Main” who spent $100 to get her lightcone
I was worried till I saw this
I'm sorry for worrying you X(
You good, just glad your doing alright!
Thank god we were really worried for you. I’m very happy you’re doing quite well :)
Really happy to hear that OP ur fine in many ways, I also spent $100 on the Top-Up Bonus to get her E6. Think it's fine to spent a little as long as it makes ur day even month while not ruining your finances. Hopes Firefly could give u some motivation in life and more happiness.
Happy for you that you got E6 but please get some help what you are doing is not healthy
I am aware and once i got my shift plan i will
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She's not Imaginary, she's Fire. Noob.
Bro I hope your salary is enough for rent and food. You need to take care of your physical self first. :P
Duh, mate it's only 100€ and that once in who knows how long xD
I think also some people from less wealthy countries just might consider it more money than you, and that's why they're worried. Here where I live 100 euro is really a lot.
He said he spent only 100 pounds on it, so he must have insane luck for this.
dude this is not healthy and i suggest you take a break from the game to reflect. i understand finding comfort in a character, but you need to remember this is exactly what mihoyo wants. firefly is a product, just like every other 5 star, and they want to sell you that product (whether it be through the characters story, emotional connection, design, kit etc). It’s great that something was able to pull you through dark times but you gotta remember that life outside this game exists. i love star rail and firefly too, but investing so much of yourself emotionally into the game just isn’t smart and leaves you open to being taken advantage of and into opening your wallet again. Also OP, idk if you’re reading the comments under this post but if you see this, please know we are all rooting for you and just want the best for you. like i said before, taking a break is always great and if you choose to do so your firefly will be right there when you come back to the game in a better mental state.
+1 I have conflicted feelings about the OP post. I am happy for him, but at the same time it seems obvious he is suffering from issues and attributing value to a product a megacorporation is creating to squeeze money from people they see as cows to milk. I love the game, don't take me wrong, but in my humble opinion this behaviour is not healthy.
Yes i read your comment and thanks xD and as I'm trying to tell people, these 100€ are well within my budget, no harms done, i planned to spend them in any situation besides if my 400 free pulls on her release somehow would have gotten me E6 on accident. I'm also not some kind of addict trying to quench my well known depression with whaling, i was just in fact impossible to make appointments with a therapist due to external forces and even if, depression doesn't just immediately vanish. A thing many say is just "if you get these negative thoughts, think about the nice stuff you don't want to miss" that was firefly for me. I know it can seem unhealthy but i promise I got everything on a tight leash. (Well as much as you can when you want to sleep at 2AM and cars decide to beep their horns every 5 minutes because of some football game yesterday....) Thanks for your concern though, imma go find a rock, let's see if they keep beeping... /j
ah i get that. yeah honestly i’m not sure why people are freaking out over the money, it’s really not that much for a hobby if you’re in a good financial spot. on that note, i’m glad you’re doing ok!! i think the wording of the post just threw a lot of people including me off and led us to conclusions. also, i struggle with depression too and i completely understand the idea of having something fun to look forward to that’ll keep you around. i was just worried it had gone beyond that and gotten unhealthy (which has def happened to me before so maybe i was projecting a little), but like i said before it’s great to know that you’re doing alright. hope you have a good one man and don’t let some of the comments get to you <3
As a lol player since 2011 playing mostly 1 characters in that game for 13 years has been an important part of my life. Despite also being a product. Also playing ggz since launch in 2014 mihoyo made me a fan by seeing Kiana history from beginning to end. Iand yes between riot and mihoyo I spend 3000 USD over 13 years.
Less than 20 dollars a month, if you have the money to spare, is a very ok value for a hobby. Honestly, the thing about the OP is not even the money they spent, it's the way they wrote it. They have some serious unmet needs.
yeah i completely agree with that. i think spending any (reasonable) amount within your means is perfectly fine, and 100 euro isn’t even enough to be stressing over (unless you’re in a bad financial situation). it was just the way they wrote their post like you said that concerned me and i tried to give some advice as best i could
I’m glad you were able to find happiness in those games! Also, a game being a product isn’t necessarily a bad thing (literally all games are). the point i’m trying to get across is that being knowledgeable of the fact that gacha games specifically are products designed to milk as much money out of you as possible is a necessary awareness to have as a player. If someone isn’t able to resist the urge to spend money they don’t have, they shouldn’t be playing.
Yeah but that is on them. I skipped most banners since 1.0 getting only 4 limited chars. Then when penacony started I got sparkle E2S1 and acheron E6S1 with only monthly and BP and a 50$ pack. And now I got ff e2s0 with the 48k saved since acheron banner. Is just most people can't choose between having many characters E0S0 or save and get only 20% of the characters but with eidolons. Now I save for E6 Hua or Kiana or Sakura.
My guy or gal, if this is serious and not satire. I highly encourage you to seek mental help. Spending your hard earned money on a gacha game is not a solution for suicidal thoughts.
I am aware and never wanted to implie that i do think that, obviously it isn't
Mihoyo is rubbing their fingers together right now realizing they have spenders who's lives *literally depend* on the gacha characters they're making. You're like the embodiment of the parasocial relationships these companies are trying to develop to milk as much money as possible from consumers for very little return. Hell, you said in your last post that you want to whale but your financial situation doesn't let you, and in 6 days you've had your emotions manipulated so badly by Mihoyo that you decided to spend €100 despite you yourself admitting that's a bad idea. You need therapy, not Firefly. A 3D model isn't a proper replacement for actual mental health support.
Oh alright for that i apparently need to clarify, as i wrote, 100€ where planned from the start, for months in fact, and full on in my Budget, no damage done. What i meant with whaling was the insane amount normally required to get someone E6. I'd never spend on gacha in a way that negatively affects my life. About your point with parasocial, yea maybe a little. But i made up my mind to save and pull for her back even before penacony, technically speaking, Sam (i love Mecha, i literally got Gundam figures and am even studying robotics when my mental health allows it). About your point with being dependent on a character and it being mihoyos plan? You must have misunderstood me. I was in an extreme bad spot in life making me wish to just end it, i was clinging to every positive future event i had in sight, which was literally 3 things, a final fantasy concert last month, her release and the release of the new final fantasy 14 DLC tomorrow, you make it sound as if you think without her my life would have been better, i assure you it wouldn't have been. I don't say that as some kind of addict, i say that as someone that knows my life situation and that i had no actual possibility to visit an therapist because it would have been impossible for me to schedule any sessions. That you for your concern, i know you don't want to be rude but it seems you greatly specilated on your part so i wanted to clarify things
They also made a post that they un-installed after the 2.3 story. Therapy is right.
That's news to me 👀 like i checked my posts, 100% didn't delete any post, never even wanted to uninstall Starrail
People would do that? Come on the internet and just lie (about you)?
Don’t have much to add, this was a really great comment. I’m glad how frank you are about it while also trying to look out for someone else. Definitely what they need to hear.
You are trying to destroy the shelter he found with a crude argument based on absolutely nothing more than "life is horrible, people are horrible", which is precisely one of the main reasons for suicidal thoughts. You want to help OP and lead him to search for help, not to drag him again into the pit he just left. And all because of your selfish desire to explain your point of view on companies and laugh a little about it. You could have made a good comment or give some real advice, but you preferred to mock and destroy. And many will think you did something good just for being cruel and talk about common (absurd) topics but your comment really lacks significance. I really hope OP develops the maturity to ignore you, cause this don't deserve more attention than the necessary to point out this way of replying is too toxic for here.
Oh don't worry about it. I don't care about strangers on the Internet 🤣 it just feels weird that it feels like they are purposely getting things wrong
Really hope people like you stop enabling this disgusting behavior. It goes above and beyond the spending in case you don’t know how to read the post. Your comment defending them is doing absolutely nothing positive
Didn't read that but I hope you're doing alright
I genuinely hope you follow your own advice and seek therapy too.
I think that’s a bit harsh way of saying it don’t you think? I’d say less parasocial and more coping mechanism, as people have different ways of dealing with fighting suicidal tendencies. I know I’ve been in that situation and imo you’re not really much helping OP with that statement.
to a degree, i get what ur saying as i also struggled w suicidal ideations and used games to cope before seeking help. it can be a bit harsh to be told these things when uve found happiness, bc u want ppl to understand why u are finally happy. but op is very clearly in a severe mental decline if they had to depend on a fictional character tons and tons of times in the span of a few months to keep them alive. that is insanely unhealthy, and spending money to e6 said character (when e0 and having the character at all should be more than enough. esp since op has stated they are in a very bad financial place) instead of putting that money towards actual proper mental health support changes nothing about their situation. its like putting a bandaid over a waterfall. sugarcoating it only encourages this kind of behaviour and op will never seek help bc they think this fictional character fixes all their problems when she doesn’t.
Read my other replies I’m not trying to sugarcoat it. I’m sure you know the feeling of being told in a way that seems like your feelings are being disregarded, even if the intention is they’re trying to help you. There are other ways to word such things in a way that’s not sugar coating nor being feel like passive aggressive, and being blunt about it might makes things worse
Nah, it’s a very reasonable response. Sugar coating isn’t gonna help especially in this situation.
Not gonna try sugar coating but maybe not too harsh. This kind of mentality won’t really help at all. I had suicidal tendencies and comments like this just makes me feel worse and depressed, especially when coming from my mom. I still have and it’s too depressing every time I think much about it, but really I don’t think y’all need to be upfront that quick. You should ease them up before slowly fronting about it
Yeah being told that this was a massive mistake is just going to spiral them down further, this time without the support they had. Best case scenario is to preserve this E6 Firefly as an amazing win, but simultaneously understand there exists better goals and supports to attain. Make this a stepping stone to a healthier place instead of invalidating the one support they claim to have.
Thank you! Tho they’re actually doing fine now recently and I’m glad about it
Good to know! Hope you're doing better for yourself too lately
Thanks a lot for stepping up for me. People really acting as if i blew my entire salary on her 🤣 people I'm not entirely dependent on her, i just said she supported me through though times, if she hadn't, something else would have. (To explain the situation, trigger warning!!!! When i thought about why i should keep pushing myself because quit frankli, everything went to shit, for a Time i didn't even know how to pay my bills, i thought of things i could look forward to, things i still wanted to witness in my life, one of them being firefly's release)
Hey man I’m really sorry about the reactions. I totally get that feeling of finding reasons to live even when the reasons themselves may seems dumb for others (tbh Firefly really keeps me motivated to live through even when life seems unfair) I’m glad to hear you’re not actually blowing off all your money. Take care firebro/sis and enjoy your E6 Firefly!
I will say that maladaptive coping mechanisms are there for a reason, to help us survive. So in that way, I do understand what you are saying. However my therapist wants me to branch out from them because it’s a temporary solution that can only cause me trouble later. If Firefly is what them through this time, I’m glad she did. But I think it’s a wonderful thing that anonymously we are allowed to be frank with each other because sometimes the people we love and that love us cannot, for whatever reason. If they don’t hear this now, they may fall deeper into this abyss than they already have, they are in a dangerous position mentally. I’m sure you understand that though, so I’m sorry if all I did was wax poetic lmao
Letting people throw away money when they say that they can't afford doesn't help either
I’m not supporting OP’s decision I’m saying that y’all need to ease them up before being straight frontal about it.
I seriously question where i say I can't? I specifically said i can, that it's in my budget.
In your last post you say that you want to whale but your financial situation won't let you
Alright. That has an easy explanation, what i meant was completely buying into the game to get at least E6 no matter what. What is usually a lot more than 100€ for 2 limited without guarantee or real pity
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Please know that miss Firefly isn't a materialistic woman and wouldn't want you to go under financial difficulty just for her
Congrats. I'm glad this makes you happy but you really should considering spending your money on getting professional help. Mental health is no joke and your life should not depend on an anime girl. Stay well friend and good luck out there.
Yaaaay! Our best girl in her full glory!
Congratulations on Firefly. She is the best girl to be with.
100 dollars isn't bad. You budgeted for this day and reapped your rewards. THIS IS A W. Your money can't go with you when you die. Use it to enrich your life (I myself will stay a low spender with all E0 units BUT I see no issue)
I've said this once and I'll say it again, Firefly wouldn't want you homeless, brah.
Hey, I'm happy for you, but please consider finding professional help. Your lifeline should never be a digital character in a gacha game. A means to help ease the stress, sure, but never the thing that helps you find that equilibrium.
Dude it’s nice to get some inspiration from art and literature but this isn’t healthy, especially developing a pattern of spending money to cope with depression/anxiety/etc. Start doing strength training, it’ll improve your mental health, give you real control over your body and health, and teach you what youre capable of with consistent work. Start producing some kind of art, whether it be painting, stand up comedy, whatever. Make better friends and learn to be as good of a friend as possible. Consider working with a therapist if you’re not already. This is escapism and it’s the worst thing you can rely on, because it gives you the illusion that you’ve fixed your circumstances. Seriously, before you spend another penny on this game look into a gym membership - weightlifting won’t change everything but you have no idea how much it does to help your mental health. Our bodies are designed to move and to be physically challenged, and I firmly believe that the mental health crisis in the US is strongly influenced by our sedentary lifestyles and poor diets.
We have a huge dietary problem in the US. 90% of our serotonin (mood regulating neurotransmitter) is located in our gut. Along with scores of other important neurotransmitters. Eating an unbalanced and highly processed diet really does have negative repurcussions on our emotions and brain function. And you’re right about movement and exercise being necessary. It’s hugely beneficial for reducing stress and improving both mood and self esteem. However, it’s also imoortant to realize that trading a game obsession for a gym obsession is also not healthy. It’s definitely better for your wallet than spending money in gacha games. But too much time at the gym with not enough rest will also reduce or even negate the positive effects that exercise can have, or even result in injury. So everything in moderation. Great advice overall though!
Also, getting really into working out sometimes leads to steroid use for people who get really into stuff, which is probably worse than just being sedentary. That said, working out is probably much better for you than playing gacha games (not that you should choose your hobbies for health reasons) My big suggestion though is find an exercise bike and play gacha games *while* working out OP is European. I wonder if Europeans tend to be in better shape than Americans. I know we like to laugh about obese Americans, but I know almost nothing about public health in Europe
I don’t know European obesity/overweight rates off the top of my head (the rates for US adults are about 40% obesity with another 30% overweight) but I know Europe is second worldwide behind us and the obesity numbers are climbing there. But you don’t need to be obese or even overweight to not be getting enough exercise, especially strength-training. Once sarcopenia (age related muscle loss) begins it’s important to do regular strength training to maintain muscle, and the longer you ignore it the harder it will be to recover muscle later on. Strength training should be considered routine body maintenance like brushing teeth or bathing. People think it’s not necessary because there’s a lot of notions of vanity tied to weightlifting, but it can be the difference between dying at 50 from weight related illness, 70 from a fall in the home as a result of muscle loss, or living to 90+ with good quality of life. Also, strength training has a direct effect on mental health and there’s a lot of exciting research being done on strength training as a medical treatment for depression, anxiety, and other mental health disorders.
Not just that but I I talk a lot about how people confuse happiness for pleasure, and eating lots of sugar is the easiest pleasure fix there is. People also attach food to feelings of emotional security, so in times of stress people will eat what they ate with their family as a child when their metabolism was still having to support growth. Right now I have to eat around 3k calories a day to support growth (and that’s a lean bulk) so I eat a decent amount of junk food to comfortably hit that number which is fun, but it’s eating vegetables, lean meat, milk, etc. that makes me happy. And haha I understand, that’s why I also recommended art, therapy, and interpersonal relationships. I do stand up comedy and have made excellent friends that way. And I’m not saying OP jump straight into MY routine (I’m literally finishing a long workout rn), but they need to start doing SOME kind of exercise, and strength training seems to have the best mental health benefits. Plus frankly, [it’s just fun to be jacked.](https://imgur.com/a/Iw7jprH)
Wait til that body dysmorphia kicks in people around you say you look great but you just look at yourself in the mirror and you see one ab not popping as much as it should and you go crazy, or you feel like your arms look small and the people complimenting how big you are even though you are bigger than them you still feel small. It's a curse bro, I been lifting 18 years+. since I was 16.
I mean, like anything you want to succeed at you have to manage your expectations. Would I like to be bigger right now? Of course, but I can never look like CBum or Jeff Nippard because we have entirely different physiologies. I have my strengths - a natural v-taper with a slim waist, my legs have always been disproportionately strong (you want to talk body dysmorphia, when I was in my teens long before I got into lifting I was self conscious of having muscular, toned legs and everything above the waist being flat) - and I have weaknesses - I’m 5’9” and skinny and will never bench 400 lbs, I have to put a disproportionate amount of work into my chest compared to back and legs, etc. I lift for health and well being first and aesthetics second, and having those priorities it’s important. I might be a long way from my goal of 180 lbs at <10% bf, but I feel great, have no aches or pains day to day (except muscle soreness some days, but we both know that’s a good feeling), I take no medications, etc.
I didn't spend to cope with my depression. But thanks for the concern and tips. I just don't enjoy sports, like at all.
Take care man!
Seek therapy of some other kind of help, some pixels won't be enough man, this is just a temporary solution, swiping for pixels is not a treatment for depression or mental problems in general.
If this isn’t satire, I hope you get some therapy. She may be a great character that’s pretty, but she’s not real. It isn’t worth spending what you don’t have for something that arguably could just disappear one day. It’s an online game, which means if HoYo pulls the plug, there goes your money with it. I’ve already felt that when they shut down OG Warzone (2020-2022 version). Sure, my Battle Pass rewards, skins and weapons may still be in the regular MP-only games themselves, but since I don’t play those games anymore, they’re effectively gone. MW 2019 is a five year old game this year. I love it, but it’s basically gone now from the devs’ minds. The same could happen at anytime if HoYo ever moves on.
At no place i said i didn't have it, i said it's within my budget, i wouldn't go further and damage myself for a virtual character. I view it like buying a game, essentially you do keep the game but in the end 95% you will never look again either so what's the difference
near suicide... I think you need professional help.
Don’t tie your mental health to a fictional character. That’s INCREDIBLY unhealthy and is actually harmful. What you need is help from professionals and consistent, small life decisions that you make daily and shape your outlook. Not a gacha game draining your wallet.
For everyone reading this. Thank you for all your concern. I feel like i need to clarify things so please read before commenting. 1. I am in fact diagnosed and have been in treatment, i am planing to go again when my life situation allows it (I'm sorry, I'm in the trial period of my work so I can't call in days off for therapy and I can't quit since I'm dangling right over an hole of our social security system. My previous work gave me my shifts only 1 week in advance so it was hard to make appointments, that changes on Monday) 2. People seem to think I'm an unhealthy spender like I'm an addict. I'm in fact not. These 100€ where planned far in advance, they are in budget and i wouldn't have spent more even if i hadn't increased her Eidolon at all. So no harm is done. There is a hundred reasons why i wanted to pay these, but i never felt a need to do so, i just wanted to, a lot out of pure gratitude. 3. I'd never let my life be negatively effected by Starrail neither by spending nor investing too much time. I got that under control, i know the pitfalls enough xD I'm truly thankful for all your concern and well meant words and I'm deeply sorry to have caused such concern for all of you. I hope these things clarify some things, and my view on things. Star rail and firefly didn't kept me in depression or affected me negatively, they where just one of many Supports helping me through one of the most problematic times of my life and i just wanted to share my happiness about it and my happiness about getting my favorite character E6 because we all love her to varing degrees and i wanted to show the positive effect she has on some of us. I feel like I'm forgetting another point so i might edit it tomorrow when it's not 2AM xD So thank you. All of you.
My brother in Firefly.. This sub has a lot of doomers here.. Some people here doomed firefly to death before V3.. I know this sub has wholesome people and positive vibes but the doomers lurking here as well.. Your intention was clear but some don't care just jump straight to conclusions.. I wish you the best and stay safe
Thank you for being alive. You are as great as Firefly. I hope a lot of happiness comes to your life, so enjoy your E6 as I will enjoy my E0, a lot.
Im like you fr fr, but I make sure to use money that's left over after paying my bills, I'm hoping you're doing the same
Yo this is awesome, super happy for you! Also massive props on the luck there, E6 is crazy for 100€ so I’m glad you managed to get her with the budget you had planned!
I am confused with all the posts directed toward OP's decision to spend 100 euros on Firefly's banner. Do you guys know his total salary that I am missing on his post? Do you guys know his living situation? He got E6 on 100 euros. Heck, I spent $800 on my E6 Firefly. He even planned for the 100 euros, too. No where does it hint that he's going to be homeless. If you want to give advice towards his depression coping mechanism, then talk about that. Don't bring up the financial problem.
One issue is that in a previous post i said i can't whale, actually meaning i can't whale the huge amounts of money to guarantee at least E6. That was a bit of my fault.
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Well, it's your life and choice. If you like her then go for it. But always take time out. For example, if you E6 her now, then it's probably for the best if you skip 2.3 Phase 2, and probably the entire 2.4 patch to recover. Yunlin and Jade will have their Rerun. Don't worry about it. I'm pretty sure E6 Firefly will dominate the battlefield for a long, long time. So take a break, and let your wallet or bank account cool down a bit before it overheated.
Duh mate. I'm not gonna cash in for a while. The last time i paid was Silver wolf 🤣
OP: firefly saved me and changed my life Character designer at mihoyo: babes in mechs go brr
Hey, I don't know what you're going through, but just know that I'm here for you, you can also talk to me privately if you want.
Hey no offense, just wanted to let you know. Thankies, i read you and appreciate it but if i learned one thing over the course of my depression it's to never follow the "talk to me privately if you want" thanks for the concern and offer though :3
That great to hear!! And depressing really sucks, hope u starting a better life from now on <3
What is so wrong about this? It’s a hundred pounds, it’s not like OP is gonna bankrupt because of it. IMO, we should support a game, or something, we like anyway we can. I can’t spend this amount, but if it’s ok to him, just let my guy be happy! And going a bit further here, a fictional character CAN help and even save lives, just like any other object, person, pet and so on… everyone here should chill and just be happy about someone who is happy too and wanted to share it. Enjoy your game OP, FF is freaking amazing! Mine is E2S0 (S5 fall).
Good for you fr but like... you guys do know she isn't real and that these EXTREME reactions are probably a sign that maybe you should talk to someone? Like not even in a douchy way. It's a good thing to be aware of and I was in a similar boat in the past as well
Depends, if you mean the ending it thing, i am, if you mean my reaction to pulling her, mah I'm just used to being very unlucky xD
Dont feel bad about this If this brings you happiness, that is money well spent Same with buying video games, buying clothes, food etc If you spent money on it and are happy, that is all that matters, life is about fulfillment and enjoyment, dont let others discourage you with how you do things in life
The issue is they flat out admitted to being reliant on a anime girl- and that’s where spending the money came through. It’s not a good habit. And having a character be your reason for living is an incredibly unhealthy thing to do. The money shouldn’t be spent in this case
I see two issues here. A: people seem to assume that she was the only thing supporting me and that I'm completely dependent on her while also B: simultaneously thinking my life would have been better without it. People don't understand that there is a difference between being dependent on something and using something as emotional support and distraction.
Congrats bro dont listen to haters but of course be responsible
They’re not haters it’s just this is extremely unhealthy and needs to be acknowledged more than anything 😭
OP budgeted this. It wasn't on impulse or an attempt to instantly clear their depression.
There is literally nothing unhealthy about it. People just decided to twist and misinterpret my words. If i felt like i had to spend this i get it, that's addiction. But i willingly and consciously made the decision i wanted to spend that money, money that won't hurt me when it's missing.
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You mean healthiest
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Glad that firefly can make your days better, from the post I can tell you are struggling so having uplifting stories like her's help ppl is always amazing to see. Keep in mind that the character of firefly wouldnt want you to struggle for her sake. If the money you are spending is money you will dearly miss then I'm sure neither her nor anyone else would hold it against you if you pulled on her rerun. That being said im happy for you and enjoy your e6 ff, she sets the game ablaze.
Thanks ^^ it's nice to read some comments that are not being essays lecturing me 🤣
Hey, do what makes you happy just while also being responsible. If you got that down who am I to rain on your parade.
It’s honestly really not good that a anime girl is what kept op living- while a character making you happy is great. This situation- it’s really not great that it’s to this extreme. And I really think op should seek some professional mental help instead of relying on firefly who’s just a fictional character
Seeking help for their depression is very important yeah, that being said if the character helps them that's not bad at least not for the short term.
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Hey OP, I just want to say first is congratulations. At least you were able to get her E6. But as someone who E6 a character before (specifically Jingliu). I definitely can say that there might be some resentment later on if you don't keep yourself in check OP. As others mentioned, filling the void with a character from a gacha game isn't good and as much as we love Firefly, we shouldn't base our entire existence to her and her alone. I know it's a struggle since I know how it feels since I feel suicidal myself sometimes. But looking for escape and filling the inner void with a gacha games isn't going to work out in the long run and will only make you spend more to continue being "happy". Personally, I feel the same thing simply because I wasn't able to record my pulls when I got Firefly and it's making me think of spending to get another pull for her. It's not healthy and we shouldn't fall down this path OP.
🤣 Starrail is not my coping mechanism and i don't plan on paying for at least another year
Good on you OP! Glad to hear that. At least you aren't like me when it comes to this. Never ever rely on Gacha as a coping mechanism.
It makes me happy seeing so many people have so much luck, cause Firefly mains are the best community by far, the sheer ammount of memes and wholesome people its beautiful, Congrats OP!!! I will also say that I hope you are doing better, please search for mental health professionals, theres a lot of stigma when reaching for psychiatrist but let that not face you, you are important and Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, like wise your mind is important give it its proper manteinance like a well oiled machine, Love yall take care
Congrats!.. You deserve better
I say this in all seriousness. Seek help. Do not depend on an anime girl for mental health. Go to a therapist.
Why does everyone think I'm not doing that? XD obviously I'm going to seek a therapist as soon as i can.
Awesome man wish you all the best! I know how it feels to be down ans to have a little bit of joy can go a long way.
Tbh idk why everyone is so negative about op, like, its just £100, its not like op would be broke due to that amount unless hes a black market immigrant worker that get paid £200 a month. And about his mental health, you know you still have to pay for therapy right？A lot more than £100 maybe. And sometimes just listening a stranger talking to you for hours isn't gonna just erase all your negative thoughts, while finding something that you love and want would, and in op's case its firefly. In the end, op spent a small amount for something he loves, which got him out of a hard time and kept him going, so why not just be happy for him instead of labelling him.
Some of these comments are so silly, acting like OP's gonna be financially ruined or something. Did they not read the part where OP specifically said that they planned ahead and budgeted this expense out of an upcoming paycheck before her banner released? It's not like this was some kind of uncontrollable impulse purchase, and it doesn't sound like OP buys jades often either. And I agree that the "you need to seek professional help" comments are pretty unhelpful. Like, you think someone who can openly acknowledge their mental health struggles hasn't thought about it already? It's not like good therapy is even easy to find, even if you can afford it. And even then, it just won't be helpful for some people. OP clearly has a level head on their shoulders and is capable of managing themselves. Some people can't tell the difference between being depressed and being stupid, I swear.
No offense but- a 3d not real anime girl shouldn’t be the only thing keeping you from suicide. I think it’s great you were able to get her e6 without an unnecessary amount of money spent (though I almost find it hard to believe) , but you should really REALLY look into getting therapy also. We all have our ways to cope, but putting your life on an anime character is not the way to cope.
A, I'm actually going to search for one once i got an outlook for my work schedule. B, i know it's hard to believe, that's one of the reasons why i couldn't really comprehend what happened xD
Well it’s good you’re considering therapy. Hopefully it can help you since I know it’s different for everyone.
Yea the problem is it's like 100% sure it's chronic by now since i only really started treatment after like 10 years, it's complicated. But i need to get it diagnosed multiple times over 2 years so welp gotta wait just a lil longer
I’m the same :/ got diagnosed way later when I already knew I had depression since It runs heavily in my family, but therapy really helped me since I just really wanted someone to listen to what I was feeling. Anyways, I wish you all the best! Hopefully it can help
Dude you need some professional help ASAP. Firefly isn’t real and can’t help you. What are you going to do when she doesn’t show up in the story for a while? You’re either gonna find something else to latch onto and get worse, or you’re just gonna get worse regardless. Note, I’m not telling you to just magically get better; I’m telling you to take the steps because relying on a gacha waifu for your mental health is horrible and self destructive.
I'm not relying totally on her, i just said she pulled me from some nights of bad thoughts. Also i am looking for therapy but it's not so easy sometimes, no therapy is much help if you get homeless in return
Some of y'all are some assholes. I think OP isn't the only one here who needs therapy.
you’re so real for this
Hey, Der Charakter ist super, habe auch was in die Tasche gegriffen für E2S1 FF & ES01 RM. Hast du noch Platz in deiner FL, würde sie gerne ab und zu testen :)
Glückwunsch :3
I'm no stranger to dropping some cash here and there on characters so I'm speaking from experience here But honestly, if a gacha character is the difference between you being happy or sad with life I think you need to reevaluate your priorities respectfully
They never said it was.
you're right, they said that FF was what pulled them out of suicidal tendencies multiple times, specifically. no one's mental health should be in a state where a single character has influences over it.
To elaborate, the things that where pulling me down where far outside of the virtual realms. Her effects where solely positive
You are blowing what they said out of proportion, as they've been in the comments saying.
Can yall like. Stop being assholes. This isn't even the only example of a character pulling someone out of a depression but like. "Because it's a gatcha their a dumbass who spend money on a game" calm tf down
Like I agree some sort of mental help is needed considering the circumstances. But being an asshole isn't how you do it
i didn't really spend that much time on this sub but im honestly shocked at the quality of the people here >reddit i guess... I don't know why I keep coming back. Dopamine addiction i guess
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I am on 38 pity and all out of jades.. I wish I got her early. But looks like I'm gonna be short with 20-25 pulls. Gonna have to look to get her on a rerun.
ay congrats Firebro, me here just hoping to get E1 (E2 or more if Hoyo decides to be nice & give me multiples), currently got 45 pulls saved & 15 pity. Sadly theres no other way i can earn jades aside from daily comms cuz ive milked almost every jade paying content there is.. Wish my luck!!
Take all my luck mate, here, have it. Just give it back when that Merlin claw dude comes out xD
How good is FF at high eidolons? I get E2 is great for QoL (e1) and speed blitzing mobs (E2) but the other ones just seem lackluster to me. Edit: though e6's extra weakness break eff is pretty sweet sounding
E6 is a real upgrade but E3 - E5 are worthless. Like E4 is cool but not worth a 5 star to think about limited, it's only interesting if you really really want to, I'd say not worth it for the average fan
Since others have already expressed their concern in my stead, allow me to give you some unadulterated congratulations! I'm sitting at E5 myself and waiting to see if I can get the last copy before the patch ends.
Best of luck ^^
Danke
Wow this story is insane bro
I own several e6s5 and I will never understand people who have the need show it and type their blog on a video game subreddit 🤨
Welp than feel free to pass on and read other posts. It might not be something special to you but for others like me it is so i want to share it and how happy it made me.
Congrats, I'll be getting my e6 on a rerun
First and most importantly, congrats on the win. Its very pleasing to my eyes to see someone who saved for a character get what they desired. I am curious though, how many patches did you skip pulling on to gather the pulls needed for this? Also hope you have fun putting her together with Harmony Trailblazer. I imagine yours is top tier since they were free and you most likely didnt have anything better to do with the tb energy since relic farming for Firefly was nearly impossible.
Let's say Ruan Mei was my last 5 star before (and in stupidity i pulled on lightcone to pity once
Wouldnt say stupidity there, Both Harmony TB and Ruan Mei want some odd lightcones I think (Or I was just unlucky in all the other LC banners cause I only had 3 Memories of the Past.)
CONGRATS!!!!!
I’d spend but I’d rather use that money for bills
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congratulations
s5 next! But fr I'm glad you got a positive experience from this character and community I wish you the best!
Congratulations, So far E2 S1....I felt the same when I got her😭😭😭😭
I’m sure many of us can understand your feeling. Me, for one, my heart was pounding and my hands were trembling when I got her. If it wasn’t because it was late at night and wasn’t my personality to do so, I would’ve ran around screaming. Though, the adrenaline prevented me from sleeping lol.
Y’all must be broke with the way you’re responding to this post. Believe it or not, I could spend 1k on this game a month and it’d be equivalent to spending 100 on a minimum wage salary. And like, with that salary, you have 100 to spare on things you like per paycheck. Like we’re not all broke. 😭
\*Locks toughness bar\*
average firefly enjoyer what they enjoy is escaping reality
If therapy is available in your country please go. It should be cheaper.
A, I'm trying B, yes but not as timely flexible what was the biggest issue during my hard time, it was literally either keeping my apartment or getting therapy but going homeless, for a time, getting better
I'm glad you're getting better
I do think that OP is in a unhealthy relationship with their Hoyo character/s but I will also say that idgaf if it was a lady bug that will die the next day that “pulled them from near suicide”. I agree that OP needs to find some other support sources, a win is a win, especially when dealing with suicide.
I dunno how people can attach so much importance to a product that is clearly only meant to squeeze as much money from you as possible but congrats on not being selfish and a dickhead to yourself to commit suicide, mate. Though I do think you need to find other options for emotional support cause at the end of the day firefly is a product to take away your money with no emotion or such. Hoyo will just squeeze you dry and leave you to dust if they could by law, but thankfully we aren't in this dystopia world. If you ever want to chat or hangout to play video games, don't be afraid to message me, I'll put some time to make our gaming experience fun. In conclusion, I genuinely wish you good luck in your life and that your dependency for firefly will not hurt you financially and that you will find a way to become emotionally independent, mate. Have a nice pleasant day and future. Also congrats on getting E6 firefly, mate.
I'm just like you fr, but I spent half of my salary to E6•S5 her, life is already full of depression and sadness, so nothing can stop me when I burn and shine (my wallet) to the brightest for the things I love, digital entertainment is pretty much the reason i keep myself alive and be a slave to this society now.
Congrats, bro. I also bout to sacrifice my salary for her e2 but got her with my savings for a few patchs, but u are clearly luckier than me. Or it might be divine intervention to tell u that life is still worth continuing
Why tf are you so down voted? People here -_-
Don't mind, don't mind xD
why are comments pointing out how unhealthy this is being removed? this sub is just promoting parasocialism and extremely unhealthy coping mechanisms. sugar coating things isn't going to help at all and just makes it seem like this is normal. parts of the sub have always blurred the lines between reality and fiction but this is a new low
Oh they are far from removing those xD there where just a lot of very disrespectful ones
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Mister, I can comprehend your feelings even tho I can never truly understand. I understand tho that you’re not finding comfort in reality and in real people. But it ain’t healthy whatsoever. And it’s an obvious sign of something being wrong like when I was anorexic totally not admitting until I was losing my hair, my life, my bf, friends etc. From the perspective of somewhat stable normal being NOW I can only advise you please get help from a psychologist and get a referral to psychiatrist. My bf attempted on his life and he would never do it again knowing what’s coming after. If you want a glimpse… you get locked for a while in a cuckoo house. Please reevaluate your priorities etc. on the closing note, if you can afford it, it’s totally fine spending… but please reevaluate your unhealthy attachment to a fictional character who is supposed to be your life line.
Thanks ^^ i seem to have caused more worry than necessary. I am in fact searching for a therapist as much as I'm possible to, my life didn't really allow it to, it was either going without therapy or getting therapy but going homeless for a time. It's getting better. I'm also not dependent on her. Just when i thought about ending, i searched for things to look forward to, one, of many, being her release because i like her character, as i said she's pretty much the perfect character for me, even more than i realized at first xD
Save your tears and energy - you gonna need it while living on instant noodles for next few months.
I spent only 100€ mate xD the only instant noodles i need to eat is the one expensive package i got myself Today at the asian super market xP
Ok so what are the DMG numbers?
It must be nice! It must be nice... to get 7 Fireflies in a night
this game will never get good rep because of post like this. sad