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dahpizza

Hear me out o==8 8==o


shooteredditor

lol, I needed a laugh


What-mold_toolbag

I want my birth year too and I fucking hate that it was hijacked by a bunch as assholes. So our year isn't our year lol


peach_xanax

same, I hate that 88 is associated with nazi shit


My_PlacetoVent

Just add an apostrophe at the beginning :) ‘88


Itchy-Combination675

Or a “19”. Or just join a gang where others were also very fond of that birth year


Pleasant-Event-8523

Exactly. So much hijacking!! Punisher, Washington’s pine tree flag, Gadsden flag and so much more. Here in Vermont the flag for Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys has come to symbolize tRump support. Pretty sure Ethan and his boys are rolling in their graves over that.


FriendofSquatch

I have a Gadsden flag on my arm from almost 25 years ago. I can’t wait to get it surrounded by a pride flag. Fucking white supremecists


outta_thymee

Happy to hear someone bring up the punisher 😭 they massacred him and turned him into a symbol for the exact thing he hated


calliel_41

1984, I’m guessing?


mtflyer05

Whats wrong with Orwell?


Typical-Block5576

69 is a hard year to have as well


No_Recognition_1570

Better gay than hate symbol. ;) (Edit to clarify - for some reason this reminded me of ‘moon landing’ - gay position from Modern Family) haha


El_Joe

That’s the dry version of the splash down, right?


mtflyer05

Tell that to my uncle daddy


No-Muffin-1241

Better gay than hate ❤️


shooteredditor

https://preview.redd.it/o0jnohuzys3d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=d599740be3a57ad64290adb602f80fc06d6570ee How's this? I posted this below but thoughts? does this solve this? I am overwhelmed by the response here, thank you all for the ideas!


doctor_atomic

If you did dots instead of dashes like in Europe, it might look less crowded. Sorry Nazis ruin everything!


VanessaLovesBurgers

We're using dashes in Europe. Dots would look fine tho :)


GirlWithTheLabrador

German here, somehow I would still suggest the dots. Idk why, still gives me the 88 vibes


ClimbingAimlessly

Definitely not lightening bolts


Shmooperdoodle

I laughed way too hard at this.


PatricksWumboRock

So I was scrolling through this thread without knowing what “88” meant for hate and saw your comment and decided to finally look it up. Before reading “nazi”, I was not expecting white supremacy! Holy shit!! 😳 Honestly I weirdly laughed out loud. Not cause it’s *actually* funny, but I have a dark sense of humor and dayum that is ironic how sweet of a tattoo it’s supposed to be and how insanely bad it can be interpreted. Oof. Def not making fun of OP, that sucks :/ I’d probably lose my freaking mind if I realized I (a white person) accidentally tattooed something that could be misconstrued as white supremacy on myself. Thankfully for OP, there’s lots of great answers here to make this work better without laser or super extensive work. I hope OP finds a meaningful solution and shows us later! :)


heartwinnie

I had no idea 88 was a hate symbol until this thread. I’m surprised too because I read a lot about the Holocaust and watch Holocaust based movies/documentaries. I’m panicking now/feel like an idiot because I made my husband and son matching jerseys for Father’s Day and I made my husband’s jersey number “88” and my son’s “23” for the years they were born. Now idk if I need to throw them out and remake them.


PatricksWumboRock

Oh man! I mean, I probably wouldn’t think much of it on a Jersey (now that I know) unless it was accompanied by other hate symbols on the person or their clothes 🤷🏻‍♀️


heartwinnie

Okay, that’s what I was thinking too. 🤦🏻‍♀️😅


Informal-Salad-7304

That looks really good in my opinion!!


rocketduck413

Looks way better! no confusion with it that way


Rickrickrickrickrick

Definitely not a hate symbol anymore. Either way, the artist should’ve warned you or denied to do the original lol


reclusivegiraffe

It’s possible the artist didn’t know


Top_Sky_4731

It’s fairly widely known as a hate symbol and especially should be known in the tattoo industry. If anything I’d be suspicious of the artist.


elleplates

I’m an artist and I had no idea until this thread 🥴 it’s not like something you think to look into without a reason (or at least for me) but I might have a google now haha


notquitesolid

You should check out hate symbols on the southern poverty law center and aclu websites. There’s a lot of covert dog whistle hate symbols out there.


Top_Sky_4731

Probably a good idea. Pretty sure I’ve also seen the reverse of this situation posted somewhere on Reddit, where an artist found out they accidentally did a Nazi tattoo and felt gutted about it.


oof_comrade_99

Looks fine! I’d do dots instead of dashes though and then maybe do your kids names just to be extra covered lol.


616Lamb

Just add a 17 on the end and you can add a heart at the beginning so it's more centered


sunshineandcacti

Or the 17 at the start and say it’s to show your support for the constitutional party and when the states first really signed/adopted it.


Ok_Height_9185

or make it 1887 and they can talk about the appreciation they have for Romanian chemist Lazăr Edeleanu, who became the first man to synthesize Amphetamine


Taco-Bob

Truly the greatest moment in world history 🙌🤣


Throwaway392308

Amphetamines? Now we've circled back to Nazis!


tinmil

You win the under-rated comment of the day lol


Sugarfreak2

don’t you mean under-ratified? Eh? EH?


auditoryeden

Or the birth flower for August, or some other meaningful little symbol that would take up space and point to the deeper meaning of the date.


adrxnaline_bulletz

Yeah I was gonna say the leo symbol, OP will get more shit for the astrology rather than potential hate symbols at least


RedshiftSinger

Yeah if it’s an astrology symbol people will just maybe poke fun, not assume OP is a raging bigot.


Aliceinboxerland

8817? What does that mean? Or what is it supposed to look like? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious because of all the likes. Lol Edit: just went back and read the description. I missed that, my bad! Yes I agree. ❤️8817 would definitely work!


Impossible_Oil5204

Unironically a sick ass panther should cover that up nicely


PinxJinx

Always a sick ass panther


Zappababuru

What about a sick ass tiger?? Joe Exotic next to it!


freshly_ella

No. Panther. A sick ass one


Admirable-Garbage-45

sick ass panter….


IAmAnObvioustrollAMA

Can we still get the Joe Exotic?


freshly_ella

Yes


Benji742001

I’m thinking a panther with diarrhea


Goldie-96_MWR

Or the pink panther in a straight jacket


JaMMi01202

Never a Panzer


cwsjr2323

This is always the answer https://preview.redd.it/aocu4v8rzv3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dff40501030e659f601c0453ef09e5d9f0b2339


[deleted]

No fucking way bro. You’re a legend lol


Joboobavich

that or like a really bitchin' pirate ship with skulls all over it and some exploding cannons.


Plastic_Jello

YARRR HAR HAR


hometowhat

Greetings, my brother in saying "bitchin'", ty for yr comradery ❤️‍🔥


RavenxMorrow

You could add another 8 on the inside and it would be an angel number. I have no idea what they mean but they are popular right now.


shooteredditor

Ohhhhhhh this is an interesting idea


TheWhaleyBunch

“…strongly associated with abundance, prosperity, and financial success.” So get another 8 tattooed then buy a scratchie right after brother 


Good_Branch_9415

My sister did the same exact thing with an accidental gang related number tattoo.. turned it into an Angel number


-C-stab-

888 is for success


xdylanthehumanx

And toll free phone calls!


sunshinecat6669

DONT WAIT CALL THE 8’S


CapN-_-Clutchh

888 is definitely balance.


[deleted]

My dob is 8/8/82 and the 3 8s are always so fun to say. Sadly, have not had much success. Though I do seem to have a lot of luck, sometimes it's not good.


akbrown56

8/18/98, and my mom is 6/16/66. Repetitive noises are good to my brain


KouRaGe

I’m 8/8/87. Giving my DOB is fun because of how it sounds.


cheekycheeks8

888 is for abundance 🥰 at least it’s fixable!!


MistressShadow999

The number 8 is the sign of infinity as well and is a very sacred number in many eastern traditions. Triple 8 would change that hate into fate my friend.


shooteredditor

This seems like the best clean idea but least meaningful? I’m torn


HrhEverythingElse

In numerology, you add the digits of a multi digit number together until you're down to 1, so 17 would be 8. Takes a little negotiating, but the third 8 could stand for 17


shooteredditor

OH MY GOD, YOU JUST SAVED ME. I think this is the cleanest solution but I didn't want a hate group to steal the meaning of my tattoo! So I was really bummed that this might be the best solution, and now you made it just as meaningful, I'M CRYING THANK YOU!!!!


anarchopossum_

I think this is a really great option!


WeirdScar5

Reddit is sometimes the best! I’m glad some internet friends were able to help you get to a place of comfort 🥰


Ok-Equivalent8260

Yes, my dads bday is 8/8/53, so we got 888 tattoos for him


Opening-Ad-8793

Put two hearts above or below it (can look into the symbolism of placement if you want … I have no idea or else I would share) that way it still has some representation for your twins. Hearts or any other symbol that reminds you of them: flowers, suns, sun and moon, or maybe the first letter or their names. To me that associates the success and other positives of the 888 with your girls.


Successful-Grass-135

Honestly probably the best and simplest fix I can think of. Also makes for a kinda funny story.


Dangerous_Jump_4167

Just get one of these 🚫 over it. Then it's anti-racist. /s


rosymaplewitch

I love this


Neat_Ad_3043

what about adding a lot of 8 around it and doing a full sleeve of them


justakult

An 88888888888 arm band would be dope.


ClimbingAimlessly

The barb wire of 2024


RaeLynn13

It actually would be! Hah I love unique arm band ideas


Kapokkie

Add 2017 under the 8s to balance it out Or, add a small heart before and after. ♡8-8♡


CoachTwisterT3

I’m not sure the hearts would fix this


bomberblu

It would make it waaaay funnier though


RasputinsThirdLeg

Lolol I feel better I’m not the only one that thought that immediately.


bomberblu

The thought just gives kawaii facism uwu vibes


altdultosaurs

Which is sadly like, already an aesthetic.


_facetious

That's horrible, amazing, and tbh half of them are anime avatars anyway so it's not a far stretch. Poor OP.


eaglesnd

Love ya 'dolph! Squee!


ready-to-rumball

😂 fuck


[deleted]

Yep. It might communicate that OP really loves HH.


AcidBuuurn

Better than lightning bolts, as far as symbols go. 


Starchasm

Or 20 on one side and 17 on the other in larger script, like a fancy monogram?


TDKevin

Now I'm just picturing a really effeminate white supremacist and chuckling 


Honks4Donks

I mean there was the whole Gay Arian Skin Heads movement and bands. So it can absolutely get worse


nobitchesdotcom

❤️8.8.17 so it’s centered


muchandquick

I don't do tattoos but is it suss that the artist didn't blink an eye at this request?


PilotNo312

Fuck those of us born in 88 I guess


muchandquick

Yeah, it's not great! Fuck those people for taking an innocuous number and making it a hateful dog whistle.


armoredsedan

for real, 8 is my favorite number (my therapist pronounces “favorite number” as “ocd fixation” lmao) and i would absolutely love to have double 8’s on me but that will never be an option because the douchebags have stolen it. i’ll have to settle for one 8 but one 8 doesn’t feel as nice as two of them, and don’t even get me STARTED on three in a row, disastrous


StaubEll

You could do a bunch of single 8s in different spots and fonts


Amethyst_Opal

> my therapist pronounces “favorite number” as “ocd fixation” Thanks for giving this therapist a laugh.


ComicsEtAl

If that’s supposed to be a date it should be “8/8.” Or, if you’re European, “8/8.”


nyanXnyan

I appreciate the clarification. I always have to pause and think about where it was dated for any numbers 12 or less.


ComicsEtAl

Actually I didn’t realize I responded under yours. In your case, the short form for 1988 would be ‘88, with the half-quote mark preceding the numbers.


thedaddystuff1979

>half-quote mark AKA an apostrophe


ComicsEtAl

I couldn’t think of the word! 😁 I blame the scotch.


Ass_Balls_669

The 8th letter of the alphabet is H so 88 = HH which is short for Heil Hitler. Yeah, it’s convoluted but that’s kind of the point of a dog whistle. And there are a lot of examples of numbers being used as stand ins for letters. It’s really common in motorcycle clubs as is white supremacy.


shooteredditor

I don’t think most people know that?


muchandquick

True, I might be overly-aware. Honestly it IS a very sweet tribute you got, I am sure you'll get some good suggestions here.


shooteredditor

I genuinely appreciate that. This info broke me honestly


muchandquick

Yeah I understand where you're at, please do NOT beat yourself up for this! It was an honest mistake.


NotActuallyJen

Enough people know it that I would definitely want to add the 17 like you said you were going to. Then it would be fine for sure


FaelingJester

Except that Q is the 17th letter. So now it's racist and conspiracist. I think turning them into something else is the best choice.


catshateTERFs

It’s be more immediately recognisable as a date though especially if written as 8.8.17. Putting their initials above or below the date would help move it away from that too. Sorry you’re in this spot op


HangryBeaver

This is definitely common knowledge among tattoo artists and it’s a highly recognizable symbol for “heil Hitler”. At least it’s small enough to cover up or get removed. Sorry you’re going through this. The artist should have told you.


Abnormal-Normal

Most people don’t, but most tattoo artists will. Legit surprised the artist did it tbh


State_of_Flux_88

Yeah I wasn’t aware of the significance until I joined Reddit and it came up because of my username. I was born in 1988 so often used 88 to add numbers to usernames, something I won’t be doing moving forward now i know the potential connotations. I think the knowledge of it as a hate symbol is more well known by younger people as, pre-internet, these sorts of symbols were only really understood by the neo-nazis/white supremacists that used them. However, with internet culture the knowledge is more widespread and I think the more online someone is the more likely they are to get the reference outside those groups. I sympathise with you OP it was such a sweet concept for a tattoo. Hope you come up with a solution that you like!


Princessbearbear

I was in my thirties before I found out the significance of "88." I used a random username once that ended with "88." Someone on AOL chat asked if I was born in 1988, and I said,"Yeah, I was, I didn't notice that." And they left the chat. To this day, I wonder if it's bc I was underage or if they thought I was a nazi. Either way, good on them.


tetrasomnia

Tattoo artists should know better to be on the know of such things. I work at a tattoo shop. Can't hold a "no hate symbol" policy if your artists can't spot them.


BreadandCirce

Tattoo artists know


WickedJoker420

Not really. They are associated with good luck in China. They are Marvin Harrison's jersey #. And if he came in and told the story then said he wants the date on him, why would he think twice? Though, not suggesting a period or a different format may show his ignorance


LeonardoDaTiddies

More like, it should be more common knowledge among artists, to the point they could have offered tweaks before just doing the 88. "Hey, man. Sweet idea but 88 is a racist dog whistle. How about we add more to it or format it differently?" "Oh shit! I had no idea and that's definitely not what I was going for. Thank you so much. What should we add?"


zebra_noises

Me too! Most artists I know don’t do symbols of hate or even gang signs and even though face tattoos have become a thing again, a lot of them won’t do those either.


Tasty-Pineapple-

I didn’t know it was a hate symbol either. So maybe the artist didn’t know. How common knowledge is this?


muchandquick

Honestly, I can't say. I saw a post about racist/fascist dogwhistles a long time ago and this was among them.


just_a_wolf

It's very common knowledge in tattoo artist circles. Most shops wouldn't do this tattoo. Among just average people? People probably don't usually know unless they've had to deal with white supremacists in their lives before.


Claim-Unlucky

Tattoo artists will do whatever the fuck you pay them for.


hthratmn

As a tattooer, if it weren't for this sub, I honestly wouldn't know this connotation and wouldn't think twice about it.


consumeshroomz

I mean I’m so out of the loop I don’t even understand what’s racist about it. But you’d assume a tattoo artist would be more familiar with common racist tattoos. These friggen dog whistle codes and shit are really annoying though. If you’re gonna be racist at least have balls to just be out in the open about it. It’s dumb that we let these people ruin numbers and other mundane things. We need to take back the number 88.


The-Davi-Nator

I mean the only reason I’ve known the meaning of 88 since age 14(?) is because a relatively deep cut Sum 41 song from Chuck so I’d say it’s not out of the question that the artist had no clue.


Pinheadsprostate

Most people aren't aware of this. I just recently learned what it meant.


Mumchkin

Adding the 17 is a good idea. ETA, I wonder if there's a way to turn them into lion cubs, (for Leo's) or flowers?


mother_of_dragons011

Dandelions flowers with the Leo thing still incorporated


Im_done_with_sergio

Adding the •17 is a great idea. 8•8•17


carlweaver

Thank goodness it wasn’t 2014 if OP goes with this format. I like your solution though!


bmobitch

so sorry to all the people born august 8th, 2014


Confident_Scheme_716

https://preview.redd.it/gn453vf5us3d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=b047b2f29a51b5da3c53cd7d5748d02c321a9315 Turn them into bows


[deleted]

I see a two headed big titty alien.. maybe I need to make another appointment with my shrink


Confident_Scheme_716

https://preview.redd.it/sy5l32cius3d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=90580ed8c1e6425a8a9c4df2230448197b83fccc Or a butterfly


Confident_Scheme_716

I’m taking appointments all week if anyone needs any exceptional ink done /s


sammehkablammeh

😂


swampeaches

that’s a cute idea actually. maybe put bow design over the 8s and put the ribbon ends on opposite sides


lunazipzap

get another 8 and say the one in the middle is the infinity symbol or it’s just 888 angel number OR put dots in them and parenthesis on either side so it’s two smiley faceeeeS 😅


skinnyluther

It’s cool just put a 14 before it and you’re set 🙏🏻


AcidBuuurn

Other people were worried about it being centered. If they are fans of Harry Potter they could add some lightning bolts at the end to balance out the 14. Maybe add a maze, too. 


skinnyluther

Oh great idea! What about 2 lightening bolts? Just because if you do one it will get lonely, love the maze idea too! Man what would this dude do without us good folk helping him!! Last thing, you know the company Independent? It’s a skate company, throw that logo in there too with maybe an eagle or something, thought? Concerns?


AcidBuuurn

I had never heard of the skate company, but I learned that they changed their logo. 


skinnyluther

Oh weird. Anyways, let me know if you want to come to a campfire later, we wear robes and do chants, it’s a hoot


TheLizardKing89

Lol. For people who don’t get this, 14 is white supremacist code for “The 14 Words”, a white supremacist slogan created by David Eden Lane. > We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.


tangycrossing

maybe make it 8/8 ?


shooteredditor

Would that slash fit you think?


erinberrypie

I'm gonna be honest, I don't think so. I think it'd look crowded. Personally, I'd tattoo over it with a heart or whatever and put 8/8/17 under it. E: Or 08/08 if you're looking for that double number to symbolize twins.


cluelessibex7392

i think a - or • would fit and gives the same idea


patroncrow

or 8-8


AnimeGeek10721

Im so dumb , why is this a hate symbol?


Panthera_014

88 = HH =Heil Hitler it is the same as having the double lightning for the SS I think it was meant as a 'stealth' way without putting a swastika on you though I think most of those fucktards have both anyway.... (not at the OP)


AnimeGeek10721

Oh damn 😳


yourpaljax

Stands for The Schutzstaffel


duujal95

Honestly just put a big swastika above it so no one gets confused


wilderneyes

Why don't you just frame it with a small heart or flower or angel wings or something? I highly doubt anyone intending to permanently tattoo a Nazi dogwhistle on themself would go through the effort of making it cutesy to hide it. I think that would give pretty clear context to the fact your tattoo has a very different meaning to you. You could also potentially add the year underneath to make it clear that it's referring to a date, since the numbers are somewhat close and might look crowded if you tried to add punctuation between them.


RavenxMorrow

Adding 17 under the 88 is a good idea


ty_for_trying

Yeah, do this, OP. 88 17


DigLost5791

Thank god it isn’t 14


KingSquare88

😬😬😬


wherestherum757

Seconding putting a . Between the 88 then put a 17 under it


cluelessibex7392

add a little heart or dot between 8•8 or 8♡8 and 2017 below it or maybe their names above and below? not sure it would fix it. I think a dot or dash between the hearts would help it read more as a date. also, I would be a little surprised if lots of folks know about the 88 thing I guess? I'm Jewish and spend too much of time online, as well as a teenager who has had to spend lots of time around teenagers who think stuff like that is funny, and I've never even heard of it. Had to google it. Most normal folks probably won't know it if I had to guess


the_walrus_was_paul

Well at least if you go to prison now, you will be welcomed with open arms lol.


Outside_The_Walls

>I think I’m just going to make it the date 8.8.17 Good thing your kids weren't born in 2014.


Die-Top-Zehn

Please don't come to Germany with that tattoo. Really, don't!


dependabletrout

I'd fully cover it. Whatever you decide, I'd do it ASAP as to be honest I think if I saw this in passing I would immediately assume it was pro-Hitler. It's just short of accidentally getting a swastika.


nikded

I’m amazed your tattoo artist didn’t stop you here. In the culture, they obviously know that connotation. I wouldn’t worry too much about the symmetricalness of it, adding numbers. Can alway say its off centeredness is purposeful if anyone ever asked, which I doubt.


pallmallsmooth

add another 8 to make it an angel number. or get it covered up


brewberry_cobbler

My god what tattoo artist would give this out lol


Kitsuneanima

Two hearts that connect between the 8s with the 17 below?


veroquinn

Add another 8, make it an angel number


Salt-Benefit7944

You could add a dash in between, and maybe the year below


finn11aug

8|8


AppointmentHot8069

Oh hey, **my** birthday is August 8th!


idkcrisp

Pertaining to amateur radio it means love and kisses


orchidelirious_me

73 de NU3I! Yeah, that was the only thing I knew that 88 stood for until this post.


sunshineandcacti

If you get “1788” tatted you can say that you’re hella pumped abt the US constitution being drafted?


[deleted]

If you find another artist that’s REALLY good you can get the 17 centered. this should be an easy fix


theatrebish

Yeah you gotta add the 17


Col_Forbin_retired

Add mph after and people will think it’s a Back to the Future tattoo!


doyoulaughaboutme

♡.8.8.17 add a heart to the beginning to even out the space with the 17 on the end.


ImpossibleInternet3

You could just tattoo “Fuck Nazis” under it.


kuriT9

Here me out 88 + 332 ------ 420 It's kinda shit but anything is better than what you currently have. Saw some folks say 888 which realistically may be the best choice


snotboogie

Cover that up quick .  


[deleted]

tattoo artist is at the very least a nazi sympathizer


M4DM1ND

Side note, I was going to get a norse rune as a matching tattoo with my grandma and realized that almost all runes are associated with white supremacists now. I can't even get anything from my heritage because of fucking skinheads. We ended up getting a quenya word instead.


KegManWasTaken

8.8 17 That's how I would edit it personally