Governments had to draw a clear line first for how long somone is underage. Because for the longest time in human history a very young age wasn't really a concern if a child did or didn't get fucked. All genders equally btw.
And it's different across the world. In Europe most countries set the age between 14-16. In the US it varies by state between 16 and 18. In South Korea it's 20. There's a level of arbitrariness that goes into it because every individual is emotionally and psychologically "ready" to have sex at a different time, if you can even define what "ready" means.
Yet those same states don’t allow a divorce till the girl is 18 because she isn’t considered legal mature enough to ask for a divorce… let that sink in… personally I don’t understand our drinking and smoking laws either. So Americans can go to war and be in a porno at 18 but are not considered adult enough to buy a beer?
In Sweden it's 15 to have sex, you're an adult at 18. I think it's basically because teens are gonna have sex before 18 (statistically) so 18 isn't realistic? I honestly don’t know, just guessing.
Yesn't. In many places age of consent isn't a clear cut line. Age of consent being 14 or 16 doesn't neccessarily mean that any adult can just have sex with a 14 or 16 year old, but under certain conditions it can happen
age determines a lot of things, drinking, voting, shooting porn, having a bank account, joining the army, marrying, etc etc, including sex.
so you can be over for some and under for others, once you pass 18(in most countries) you can do all of those.
Also in criminal offenses there's some discrepencies. Sometimes " underage" or " minor" does not apply and an underaged/minor can be charged as an adult. This to me does not make sense.
That's because minors get lighter punishments. So, if a 17 year old commits rape and murder, should he really get off lightly just because he won't legally be an adult for a few months?
Age of consent doesn't mean ready to be fked by 60 yo.
Usually you can be adult with age of consent relationship if yours relationship started when both of you were in age of consent and before adulthood.
12 with 18 is a nono.
Usual barely acceptable difference is 15 and 17.
Also age of consent doesn't mean adult, and is under a lot of restrictions.
Age of consent means the age you are able to give consent to have sex. Who you are having sex with is up to you since you are old enough to consent to who you choose. In most places there are few limitations and those are mostly about people in authority over the person. So 16 and 40 are mostly legal.
Yeah, it's kinda crazy that some people seem to think there's something intrinsically significant about the age of 18 that magically makes them an adult. Some people legitimately seem to think a relationship between a 18 and 17 year old is predatory but turn around and watch "middle aged man drills barely legal petite teen" (because of course there's no problem at all with that, because they're 18!!!). Of course this is mostly just chronically online people, in the real world 18/17 is generally seen as fine and 45/18 would be seen as creepy, as it should.
I'm certainly not saying 18 is necessarily too high - maybe 19 is the best number, maybe it's 17½, maybe it's 21. The line has to be drawn somewhere but we shouldn't act like there's something magic about the line when we do decide it.
South Korea is probably the most correct about what the correct age should be.
I don't know which European countries see underage being 14 but I assume it's more of the South Europe.
Yep. TIL that SoKor age of consent is 20 years old because I knew about the mandatory military service for boys at 18 is a thing there, and I thought it's the same. It's sad that you are eligible to be cannon fodder at 18 but can't drink or fuck yet.
South Korea is the outlier. Their age is the highest in the world apart from Bahrain who has it at 21. I'm curious why you think the age should be 20? That seems pretty old to me and I think the vast majority of people have sex before that age.
I work in a country where sexual assault is rarely discussed, and my statistics might be skewed for various other reasons, but the data shows more men here disclose (during anonymous surveys) having experienced SA as boys, compared to women disclosing childhood SA. My theory is that, because people are in denial about the danger to boys, boys are exposed to a wider social circle while growing up, so they have a bigger pool of potential abusers. It's depressing as hell. Girls and women cannot talk about sexual assault because of "purity" and "honor", and boys and men can't because "it doesn't happen". It is infuriating.
In Christianity there is a rule for underage- Matthew 18:6. So "underage" means a child and what a child is is determined by the laws of the land. This means that it will differ from country- to- country and also from time-to-time. Most Christians, especially Catholics tend to follow the UN Rights of The Child's protocols regarding minors.
Well, except for the catholic church which has no problems continuing is side job of being a global paedophile ring. Pretty sure that doesn’t fit the UN rights of the child.
No it doesn't. They were famous for hiding gay Priests who have pedophiliac tendencies because they think one can just pray it away and you know, Christianity is all about forgiveness. Fortunately, they are very strict now with who they accept into the clergy and ordain.
They still are famous for not only hiding them, but preventing them from being prosecuted for their crimes.
It still doesn’t negate the fact that in all countries where the Catholic church has had a presence, there are pedophile priests (molesting children is not just ‘tendencies’, nor is ‘only’ wanting to do it. It is pedophilia). The system knew about it, did not prevent it, but allowed them to continue their practice and then protected the priests - NOT children - when they were caught. This went to the highest levels. Pedophile ring.
Yep and like I explained. It is because the Catholic Church back the was too forgiving snd dependent on prayer to save gay men and pedophiles. Fortunately, donce then, they are now very selectivr of who they ordain and in a lot of countries, governments work together with the Church to vet those who are assigned to work with children. In most parts of Africa, homosexuality is also a crime so the Church can't hide the pedophiles.
Yeah the post sounds like "why aren't bad things common sense not to do" but yes you need a government to process what's "common sense" and to find a social agreement and enforce rules around it. That's how life works. Just like you need laws not to kill people, even though that's pretty well agreed upon for millenia that murder is a Bad Thing. You still need a govenrment to tell people not to do it and enforce that law.
Otherwise if OP is an anarchist, sure, that's a philosophy. Don't think it'd help this topic much at all... but sure, it's a philosophy.
Was looking for this specific comment.
And it's not like there's a female teacher fucking underage boys every one in a while and nobody in the media calls it rape.
No consent = rape. Under the age of consent = can't consent. Can't consent = no consent = rape.
It really is as fucking simple as that.
It always goes both ways. That's how equality is supposed to look like. But we're not there yet and won't be for a long time.
Pretty sure this is from Afru.com - an absolute cess pool of hatred and "woke" bullshit. It's so bad I struggle to fully understand if it's a joke website or not.
From my knowledge of history: the age of adulthood was way WAY younger. One of the reasons was probably average living age. The dangers of childcare, especially in "older" women. And how your childhood wasn't about going to school and dating chad because of his sicc tiktok following. You grew up, MOST LIKELY dirt poor, growing most of what you ate... and because of this poverty, you were most likely gonna pick up your fathers proffesion and take over the farm, or be married of to someone else who also was a dirt poor farmer.
In time as we progressed, we learned about development. School. You no longer had to follow your familys methods, and could be your own person. And with that, the age we considered adults grew. to protect children, certian laws were implemented.
Ofcourse, OP wants to make it a gendered problem and blame one side. So fuck thinking, lets just be sexist
Even the poorest people know what too young is. We don't need government to set a number we just need more places to barrie those who those who set it to low.
What the fuck is this? Someone being rational and knowledgeable about history on Reddit? Blasphemy!
For real, though. You hit the nail on the head, here. This comment should be at the top.
your knowledge of history is wrong. you spend too much time on reddit
people lived well into their 50s and 70s but a LOT more young children died, so the average age was only 20.
that doesn't mean most people lived and had children before they were 20
see how your knowledge of history is wrong?
the rest of what you said just came out of your ass based on your knowledge of history
“op wants to make it a gendered problem and blame one side which is sexist”
you need to be fucking joking girl come on now 😭😭 this is something that happens to women in my country and eastern countries so often.
young girls are forced out of school and sold to old men to get married. girls that want to go to school but cannot because they’re forced to be home bound and married to someone 50 years older than them.they don’t want to go to school because they “want to date chad” whoever tf that is they go to school because they want to be educated. these are systems implemented by men to benefit men. it’s not sexist a gender accountable.
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/6-female-teachers-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-with-students-in-us-3951950/amp/1
This is just this year… you’re high as balls of you don’t acknowledge the bipartisan issue. If you think this is strictly a male thing then you’re just being an ignorant sexist. In the last 15 years the number of female teachers fucking their male students has gone wayyy up. Keep in mind that I’m just referencing teachers. I don’t wanna know the actual demographic across the gambit.
I’m going to keep this short and sweet. Your ignorance is showing
1-120+ years ago it WAS normal for both genders. Man and woman. Boy and girl. It was the way of life because life was vastly different.
2-what is the reason for this nonsense still happening in your country? That’s right. Religion. Hence why I’m many parts of the world the government stepped in and said hey fuckfaces, that’s illegal until x age. It has nothing to do with sexism. Pull your head out of the sand.
Lmao mating or having sex had NOTHING to do with what age people died at. That’s stupid af. When and after a woman bled they were considered a woman for 300,000 years or from our existence until 30 years ago. Nothing has changed other than we pump hormones into our foods causing premature puberty and bleeding. That’s the real issue.
There’s a lot of truth in this. We also are neglecting the fact that teens are little fucking shitheads that can and will do things just to get a rise out of parents… we need to not think about these kids like they’re helpless. The vast majority are actually far from it.
The UK is amongst the only western countries (if not the only one) where a woman cannot get charged for rape. Deeply flawed, but they are an outlier.
Also at least in the US if they get charged for rape they cannot sue for child support.
This is a due to the legal definition of rape in the UK. That Being “when someone puts their penis in another person's vagina, anus or mouth, without the person's permission.” (https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/ro/report/rsa/alpha-v1/advice/rape-sexual-assault-and-other-sexual-offences/what-are-rape-sexual-assault/#:~:text=The%20legal%20definition%20of%20rape,mouth%2C%20without%20the%20person's%20permission.)
Due to how the term rape is defined a woman is incapable of doing it. However they can be charged with “sexual assault by penetration” which carries the same sentence as a rape charge, however it does not carry the same social ramifications as a rape charge does.
Not true, you can sue for child support in the US even if the child was conceived through raping an underage boy. Hermessman v Seyer set the precedent.
They can't but they'll get downplayed as "adult female teacher had sex with minor" instead of calling it rape and some adults saying the kid has a blast or living the dream or something
It could be true dont have enough data to say that definitively. Men are highly unlikey to report forced sexual actd by women. Female sexual violence is barely even a thing we have accepted as reality in our collective psycho
Idk. Most crimes are already committed by men. And it's much easier for a man to force himself on a women than vice-versa. Stands to reason it's mostly men doing it.
Its not even considered a crime when women do it most of the time. So this is like women attacking men for doing things they also do without consequences
I don't have the spreadsheet on me.
But most crimes are committed by men.
It is easier for a man to rape a women than the other way around.
It seems pretty obvious at a glance.
Not in schools it isn't. The idea that its somehow worse if a man does it is perpetuating the problem. Male molesters are marked for life and do serious prison time for it (as they should), but women get a slap on the wrist. It's established that men touching little girls is a problem and no one is saying "they need to be told its bad" like the original post suggests.
I never said it's worse if a man does it. I just said men are more likely to.
And tbf most men don't suffer consequences for rape either. Less than 1% of reported rape results in any jail time.
The statistic you gave is because it's an under reported crime, and hard to prove in a lot of circumstances (both people were drunk and one person says it was consensual) I'm not saying its right, just pointing out that its not like no one cares.
The difference is a woman does it, admits it, its on the news and everything, and barely anything happens.
I genuinely don't understand why you're being attacked for telling the truth. Men will say they're "naturally sexual" and that testosterone drives them, but when you say the obvious affirmation, that men are more likely to commit sexual assault, there comes the obvious deflection.
The whole premise of the statement is silly anyway. Same logic could say: "Why do we need the government to tell us not to kill people?" "Why do we need the government to tell us not to fuck horses?"
Some people want to do shitty things and we need laws in place to discourage the behavior and hold people who do it anyway accountable. Welcome to Earth.
Considering the amount of attention a 15 year old girl on Instagram receives, while I wouldnt say it's most men, but definetly a concerningly huge amount.
The sad thing is, most female to male rape is of the underage variety. It’d be tough for the average female to physically impose their sexual will on an average grown man…
Yeah sure they are, "female teacher has *sex* with underage male student" is gonna be the headline most of the time, to the point where Im actually shocked when they use the word "rape" for once.
Look at the Overwhelming majority of female rapist walking on the streets freely. Somebody needs to stop this female led oppressive system, constantly trying to suppress poor guys. 😢
honestly... sadly its probably not. like im not saying the person is a psychopath. but psychopaths absolutely joke about this stuff online and thats been shown in many many cases on murders and rapists. they hide it in plain sight.
then people think they are joking so they upvote and think its just dark comedy.
but yeah who knows anymore
but also they could just be a teen. teens always just try and be edgy.
Because if you karma farm now, it makes your account seem more legit later on when they start sharing that sweet election propaganda! Build karma on the funsies, spend it trolling for Putin.
Women would reply to you like that: "saying not all men are like that only proves all men are like that". Encountered this "argument" many times in TwoXChromosomes.
Sadly there seems to be a problem recognizing harm inflicted in many areas of social behavior and it takes some some sort of authority to define and enforce ethics and morality.
But OP needs that sweet karma so they can post more meaningful propaganda as we get closer to elections! You can’t wait until election day to validate your social accounts! You’ve got to do it early so they look legit on election night!
Because before governments were a thing there was no such a thing as underage?
But I feel it is more like that a vast majority of men, women and others need government to keep the minority that would actually go and marry kids to men on the leash.
We shouldn't need them to enforce it, we should have had those basic values from our education (like most of us do). The government is here to punish those who, regardless of values, choose to do it. However nowadays people in the governments seem to not share said values from time to time
Well religion is the reason for most ill’s crusades and invasions throughout history.
Let me phrase it right.
“They need “RULE OF LAW” to save people from getting killed by religion”.
Read Bible, it permits slavery, genocide,etc. It’s pretty fun to read.
Historically and globally there are various reasons for marriage.
Love is a relatively rare one.
Usually it's been about money and influence and union between families.
There are plenty of places where females are married to men many years before sex is contemplated.
There are also societys where younger males are married to older females.
Farm the karm, spread propaganda later. You can tell there’s an uptick in these types of accounts because they need the karma to be able to claim they’re legit accounts during election season. “Look! They’ve got 13000 karma and social justice issues! There’s no way they’re spreading Russian propaganda!”
Check op's history, it's clear that the guy is either a bot or a very depressed feminist that is blaming everyone else except herself about why her life sucks.
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/6-female-teachers-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-with-students-in-us-3951950/amp/1 this was the first article I saw when I googled female to male rape… there’s been a frightening uptick with teachers in particular. Even more frightening when you realize that female teacher make an incredibly small demographic. Makes you wonder what the real numbers are across the gambit.
They do not call it rape Because of blatant sexism.
Also , for the same reason there are laws in countries like UK where make it impossible legally for a man to be classified as rape victim or a woman as rapist.
You do realize the democrats fund these so called conservatives right? You should reject the far right as they are controlled opposition there to make dems look good. Well damn you are absolutely correct.
Most democratic voters are never exposed to these perspectives, info, or just facts that look bad or contradict them or any individual on "their team". And its mostly not their fault.
I'd say the same is true of republican voters, except if you turn on the TV it's unavoidable as the majority of our cultural centers (Hollywood and mainstream media) is left. So you're still getting the criticism reaching you in some way if you're a Bublican.
I say this as someone who still votes for mostly liberal aligned perspectives. But I can see that democratic party has been captured by corporate and corrupt incentives.
They are not the party they pretend to be.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FFytCr0VKnU&si=yC8SmnniBZr5Ulgb
I know I lack patience for stupid people and terrorists. If you learned how to think critically you would know that.
We need governments to tell people not to kill people. Most people can be moral if their society has a strong religious or arts culture, but if you can't punish the murderers, that's an issue.
You know, technically speaking your post fits quite well in this subreddit, it perfectly encapsulate the only two appropriate reactions someone should have:
- laugh at you
- feeling sadness for you, almost pity
Pretty simple, because underage isn't an absolute thing. You might think it is, because your government told you what they consider underage and thus set a limit that differs worldwide of what's considered underage, consent or whatever.
If it was clear cut, it would be clear cut globally, which it isn't.
And it would be a dick move of governments to not tell people what is legal or illegal.
And don't give me your morality, I'm only addressing the stupidity of the question.
There are no stupid questions. Nobody is born knowing or realizing or understanding a thing. Even if you feel it's self obvious, not everyone is the same. Never hurts to share knowledge.
Hell, on Reddit, we know next to nothing about a commenter. You might literally be interacting with a 10 year old.
There are absolutely stupid questions, but they are the ones asked in bad faith to provoke an expected response.
Just look at every "question" Tucker Carlson asks and you'll see what stupid questions are.
Governments had to draw a clear line first for how long somone is underage. Because for the longest time in human history a very young age wasn't really a concern if a child did or didn't get fucked. All genders equally btw.
This was my thought too. Someone has to define underage
And it's different across the world. In Europe most countries set the age between 14-16. In the US it varies by state between 16 and 18. In South Korea it's 20. There's a level of arbitrariness that goes into it because every individual is emotionally and psychologically "ready" to have sex at a different time, if you can even define what "ready" means.
Underage is under 18 in EU... What you are refering to is the age of legal consent
Age of consent and legal age go hand in hand most places. Not all places recognize a age of consent before full adulthood
In the USA 41 states allow marrage before 18. 34 allow marriage to a 16 year old.
Yet those same states don’t allow a divorce till the girl is 18 because she isn’t considered legal mature enough to ask for a divorce… let that sink in… personally I don’t understand our drinking and smoking laws either. So Americans can go to war and be in a porno at 18 but are not considered adult enough to buy a beer?
In Sweden it's 15 to have sex, you're an adult at 18. I think it's basically because teens are gonna have sex before 18 (statistically) so 18 isn't realistic? I honestly don’t know, just guessing.
Yesn't. In many places age of consent isn't a clear cut line. Age of consent being 14 or 16 doesn't neccessarily mean that any adult can just have sex with a 14 or 16 year old, but under certain conditions it can happen
Would there be a legal difference? Like would anyone over the age of consent but underage be a criminal charge?
age determines a lot of things, drinking, voting, shooting porn, having a bank account, joining the army, marrying, etc etc, including sex. so you can be over for some and under for others, once you pass 18(in most countries) you can do all of those.
Also in criminal offenses there's some discrepencies. Sometimes " underage" or " minor" does not apply and an underaged/minor can be charged as an adult. This to me does not make sense.
That's because minors get lighter punishments. So, if a 17 year old commits rape and murder, should he really get off lightly just because he won't legally be an adult for a few months?
Age of consent doesn't mean ready to be fked by 60 yo. Usually you can be adult with age of consent relationship if yours relationship started when both of you were in age of consent and before adulthood. 12 with 18 is a nono. Usual barely acceptable difference is 15 and 17. Also age of consent doesn't mean adult, and is under a lot of restrictions.
Age of consent means the age you are able to give consent to have sex. Who you are having sex with is up to you since you are old enough to consent to who you choose. In most places there are few limitations and those are mostly about people in authority over the person. So 16 and 40 are mostly legal.
16 and 40 is illegal in the most western countries
15 to anyone above is legal in sweden
NaHBrO Most countries has restrictions to not let that happen.
Yeah, it's kinda crazy that some people seem to think there's something intrinsically significant about the age of 18 that magically makes them an adult. Some people legitimately seem to think a relationship between a 18 and 17 year old is predatory but turn around and watch "middle aged man drills barely legal petite teen" (because of course there's no problem at all with that, because they're 18!!!). Of course this is mostly just chronically online people, in the real world 18/17 is generally seen as fine and 45/18 would be seen as creepy, as it should. I'm certainly not saying 18 is necessarily too high - maybe 19 is the best number, maybe it's 17½, maybe it's 21. The line has to be drawn somewhere but we shouldn't act like there's something magic about the line when we do decide it.
South Korea is probably the most correct about what the correct age should be. I don't know which European countries see underage being 14 but I assume it's more of the South Europe.
Unless you're a dude, in which case, you are ols enough to be sent to war and you have no say on the matter.
The fuck?
Yep. TIL that SoKor age of consent is 20 years old because I knew about the mandatory military service for boys at 18 is a thing there, and I thought it's the same. It's sad that you are eligible to be cannon fodder at 18 but can't drink or fuck yet.
South Korea is the outlier. Their age is the highest in the world apart from Bahrain who has it at 21. I'm curious why you think the age should be 20? That seems pretty old to me and I think the vast majority of people have sex before that age.
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Oh silly, boys can't be raped! Says the creators of these ... Um .. toilet wall propaganda posters.
I work in a country where sexual assault is rarely discussed, and my statistics might be skewed for various other reasons, but the data shows more men here disclose (during anonymous surveys) having experienced SA as boys, compared to women disclosing childhood SA. My theory is that, because people are in denial about the danger to boys, boys are exposed to a wider social circle while growing up, so they have a bigger pool of potential abusers. It's depressing as hell. Girls and women cannot talk about sexual assault because of "purity" and "honor", and boys and men can't because "it doesn't happen". It is infuriating.
*Sparta perks up*
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In Christianity there is a rule for underage- Matthew 18:6. So "underage" means a child and what a child is is determined by the laws of the land. This means that it will differ from country- to- country and also from time-to-time. Most Christians, especially Catholics tend to follow the UN Rights of The Child's protocols regarding minors.
Well, except for the catholic church which has no problems continuing is side job of being a global paedophile ring. Pretty sure that doesn’t fit the UN rights of the child.
No it doesn't. They were famous for hiding gay Priests who have pedophiliac tendencies because they think one can just pray it away and you know, Christianity is all about forgiveness. Fortunately, they are very strict now with who they accept into the clergy and ordain.
They still are famous for not only hiding them, but preventing them from being prosecuted for their crimes. It still doesn’t negate the fact that in all countries where the Catholic church has had a presence, there are pedophile priests (molesting children is not just ‘tendencies’, nor is ‘only’ wanting to do it. It is pedophilia). The system knew about it, did not prevent it, but allowed them to continue their practice and then protected the priests - NOT children - when they were caught. This went to the highest levels. Pedophile ring.
Yep and like I explained. It is because the Catholic Church back the was too forgiving snd dependent on prayer to save gay men and pedophiles. Fortunately, donce then, they are now very selectivr of who they ordain and in a lot of countries, governments work together with the Church to vet those who are assigned to work with children. In most parts of Africa, homosexuality is also a crime so the Church can't hide the pedophiles.
Yeah the post sounds like "why aren't bad things common sense not to do" but yes you need a government to process what's "common sense" and to find a social agreement and enforce rules around it. That's how life works. Just like you need laws not to kill people, even though that's pretty well agreed upon for millenia that murder is a Bad Thing. You still need a govenrment to tell people not to do it and enforce that law. Otherwise if OP is an anarchist, sure, that's a philosophy. Don't think it'd help this topic much at all... but sure, it's a philosophy.
Pretty much and it’s still a contentious topic today
Because the government defines underage. And those laws are for women, too.
Was looking for this specific comment. And it's not like there's a female teacher fucking underage boys every one in a while and nobody in the media calls it rape. No consent = rape. Under the age of consent = can't consent. Can't consent = no consent = rape. It really is as fucking simple as that. It always goes both ways. That's how equality is supposed to look like. But we're not there yet and won't be for a long time.
Pretty sure this is from Afru.com - an absolute cess pool of hatred and "woke" bullshit. It's so bad I struggle to fully understand if it's a joke website or not.
How many government guys are fucking underage girls?
Ironically a much higher concentration of them than you find most other places.
A lot less now that Maxwell is in prison and Epstein supposedly killed himself.
Nah. When big drug dealers go down, does the trade stop? Nope, it just transfers to the next guy.
There's always a bigger fish.
Fish?! On a totally unrelated note.. dem gungans got flaps..
I dunno. lets ask the FBI, i'm sure they have a few copies of the Epstine logs in their databases :D
They are probably on Epsteins logs too.
From my knowledge of history: the age of adulthood was way WAY younger. One of the reasons was probably average living age. The dangers of childcare, especially in "older" women. And how your childhood wasn't about going to school and dating chad because of his sicc tiktok following. You grew up, MOST LIKELY dirt poor, growing most of what you ate... and because of this poverty, you were most likely gonna pick up your fathers proffesion and take over the farm, or be married of to someone else who also was a dirt poor farmer. In time as we progressed, we learned about development. School. You no longer had to follow your familys methods, and could be your own person. And with that, the age we considered adults grew. to protect children, certian laws were implemented. Ofcourse, OP wants to make it a gendered problem and blame one side. So fuck thinking, lets just be sexist
This comment right here makes the most sense.
Even the poorest people know what too young is. We don't need government to set a number we just need more places to barrie those who those who set it to low.
What the fuck is this? Someone being rational and knowledgeable about history on Reddit? Blasphemy! For real, though. You hit the nail on the head, here. This comment should be at the top.
your knowledge of history is wrong. you spend too much time on reddit people lived well into their 50s and 70s but a LOT more young children died, so the average age was only 20. that doesn't mean most people lived and had children before they were 20 see how your knowledge of history is wrong? the rest of what you said just came out of your ass based on your knowledge of history
Good point, yet government shouldn't be needed to determine whether a person is to young to get
“op wants to make it a gendered problem and blame one side which is sexist” you need to be fucking joking girl come on now 😭😭 this is something that happens to women in my country and eastern countries so often. young girls are forced out of school and sold to old men to get married. girls that want to go to school but cannot because they’re forced to be home bound and married to someone 50 years older than them.they don’t want to go to school because they “want to date chad” whoever tf that is they go to school because they want to be educated. these are systems implemented by men to benefit men. it’s not sexist a gender accountable.
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/6-female-teachers-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-with-students-in-us-3951950/amp/1 This is just this year… you’re high as balls of you don’t acknowledge the bipartisan issue. If you think this is strictly a male thing then you’re just being an ignorant sexist. In the last 15 years the number of female teachers fucking their male students has gone wayyy up. Keep in mind that I’m just referencing teachers. I don’t wanna know the actual demographic across the gambit.
I’m going to keep this short and sweet. Your ignorance is showing 1-120+ years ago it WAS normal for both genders. Man and woman. Boy and girl. It was the way of life because life was vastly different. 2-what is the reason for this nonsense still happening in your country? That’s right. Religion. Hence why I’m many parts of the world the government stepped in and said hey fuckfaces, that’s illegal until x age. It has nothing to do with sexism. Pull your head out of the sand.
All these languages, yet you choose pure facts.
Thank you for being a rational human being
Lmao mating or having sex had NOTHING to do with what age people died at. That’s stupid af. When and after a woman bled they were considered a woman for 300,000 years or from our existence until 30 years ago. Nothing has changed other than we pump hormones into our foods causing premature puberty and bleeding. That’s the real issue.
There’s a lot of truth in this. We also are neglecting the fact that teens are little fucking shitheads that can and will do things just to get a rise out of parents… we need to not think about these kids like they’re helpless. The vast majority are actually far from it.
The same reasons female school teachers need the government to tell them they can not fuck underage boys
Many governments tell women they can. If they get pregnant they can sue for child support.
The UK is amongst the only western countries (if not the only one) where a woman cannot get charged for rape. Deeply flawed, but they are an outlier. Also at least in the US if they get charged for rape they cannot sue for child support.
This is a due to the legal definition of rape in the UK. That Being “when someone puts their penis in another person's vagina, anus or mouth, without the person's permission.” (https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/ro/report/rsa/alpha-v1/advice/rape-sexual-assault-and-other-sexual-offences/what-are-rape-sexual-assault/#:~:text=The%20legal%20definition%20of%20rape,mouth%2C%20without%20the%20person's%20permission.) Due to how the term rape is defined a woman is incapable of doing it. However they can be charged with “sexual assault by penetration” which carries the same sentence as a rape charge, however it does not carry the same social ramifications as a rape charge does.
Not true, you can sue for child support in the US even if the child was conceived through raping an underage boy. Hermessman v Seyer set the precedent.
They can't but they'll get downplayed as "adult female teacher had sex with minor" instead of calling it rape and some adults saying the kid has a blast or living the dream or something
The youngest case I read online put the boy at 12 years old…
Yep thats pretty young
OP is definitely the kind of person who doesn't think this is an issue
SICK BURN
Tbf while both are equally disgusting, it's mostly men doing it.
Whats your point?
It could be true dont have enough data to say that definitively. Men are highly unlikey to report forced sexual actd by women. Female sexual violence is barely even a thing we have accepted as reality in our collective psycho
Idk. Most crimes are already committed by men. And it's much easier for a man to force himself on a women than vice-versa. Stands to reason it's mostly men doing it.
Men bad.
Oh my god, at least have the fucking decency to admit you hate men. If I said what YOU said only about women, I'd be called a misogynist.
Its not even considered a crime when women do it most of the time. So this is like women attacking men for doing things they also do without consequences
Yeah that's kind of fucked. Men are still more likely to rape than women though. That's all I'm saying.
Out of what complete data set that accounts for lack of FoM rape? Or is this just your anecdotal experience forming an opinion?
I don't have the spreadsheet on me. But most crimes are committed by men. It is easier for a man to rape a women than the other way around. It seems pretty obvious at a glance.
Not in schools it isn't. The idea that its somehow worse if a man does it is perpetuating the problem. Male molesters are marked for life and do serious prison time for it (as they should), but women get a slap on the wrist. It's established that men touching little girls is a problem and no one is saying "they need to be told its bad" like the original post suggests.
I never said it's worse if a man does it. I just said men are more likely to. And tbf most men don't suffer consequences for rape either. Less than 1% of reported rape results in any jail time.
The statistic you gave is because it's an under reported crime, and hard to prove in a lot of circumstances (both people were drunk and one person says it was consensual) I'm not saying its right, just pointing out that its not like no one cares. The difference is a woman does it, admits it, its on the news and everything, and barely anything happens.
Wtf are you taking about? Rape is wildly under reported by all metrics.
Oh now its all. Even though "*men* or so much more likely" "most *men* dont suffer consequences"
Uhhh. Yeah. Most rapists never suffer consequences for it. This is true.
Just because someone made an accusation of rape doesn't mean it actually occured.
I genuinely don't understand why you're being attacked for telling the truth. Men will say they're "naturally sexual" and that testosterone drives them, but when you say the obvious affirmation, that men are more likely to commit sexual assault, there comes the obvious deflection.
How dare you strawmaning men in general?
JUST the school teachers? Pretty sure everyone can be a pedo, men just do it too much with too much legal leniency.
School tearchers are the only ones getting caught it seems. Or there is something about school that makes us pay more attention to the issue
709,000 post karma from these click bait post for lack of a better word try to avoid commenting under these since thats what they want
Being a pedofile is bad upvote me
Holy fucking Reddit moment 😂😂😂
This person is a Master Baiter
Most men don’t
The whole premise of the statement is silly anyway. Same logic could say: "Why do we need the government to tell us not to kill people?" "Why do we need the government to tell us not to fuck horses?" Some people want to do shitty things and we need laws in place to discourage the behavior and hold people who do it anyway accountable. Welcome to Earth.
Yep, it is an awful generalization. Can't get angry at it when Reddit loves to generalize women in this exact way, but still.
yeah not to mention the meme is neither funny nor sad.
OP is a misandrist. Look at their post history
Considering the amount of attention a 15 year old girl on Instagram receives, while I wouldnt say it's most men, but definetly a concerningly huge amount.
To be fair do you remember middle aged women throwing themselves at teen aged Justin Bieber. Again I agree not most but a concerningly large amount.
I don’t think OP understands the content that is supposed to be posted to this sub.
Karma farm no care if content good! Karma farm only care karma!
Because the government is the one who sets the age of consent? You do realize that people younger than 18 can get married in many places, right?
The real question is why aren’t female rapist held to the same standard?
FFS yes there are some terrible women but lets be honest here and keep some perspective, or is that too much to ask?
The sad thing is, most female to male rape is of the underage variety. It’d be tough for the average female to physically impose their sexual will on an average grown man…
Because it's called sex at that point
They are. Most rapists sadly aren't held accountable at all, regardless of gender.
Yeah sure they are, "female teacher has *sex* with underage male student" is gonna be the headline most of the time, to the point where Im actually shocked when they use the word "rape" for once.
Look at the Overwhelming majority of female rapist walking on the streets freely. Somebody needs to stop this female led oppressive system, constantly trying to suppress poor guys. 😢
Down with the matriarchy
They should be, but tbf it's mostly men who rape.
No one was saying it wasn’t. They just said women should be held equally accountable
Why would you want to marry them anyway? Just dump the bodies in the woods when you're done.
This is sarcasm right? Indicate it
honestly... sadly its probably not. like im not saying the person is a psychopath. but psychopaths absolutely joke about this stuff online and thats been shown in many many cases on murders and rapists. they hide it in plain sight. then people think they are joking so they upvote and think its just dark comedy. but yeah who knows anymore but also they could just be a teen. teens always just try and be edgy.
Yikes, mate. I just like dark humour! 😅 You're probably just overreacting. 🙂
Probably. 😋
There's nothing funny about this, you're just karma farming
Karma farming is just so depressing lol karma a yellow point why post something Just to get upvotes instead of posting something you think is cool
Because if you karma farm now, it makes your account seem more legit later on when they start sharing that sweet election propaganda! Build karma on the funsies, spend it trolling for Putin.
This person posts shit like this every day. Checked his profile and it’s a pure karma account farm.
Why do you need government to tell you not to murder, embezzle, kick dogs, etc etc etc?
I’m very concerned about this poster
Some. Some men. I get it, but god damn, not all men are like this.
Women would reply to you like that: "saying not all men are like that only proves all men are like that". Encountered this "argument" many times in TwoXChromosomes.
That would be infuriating to hear.
Sadly there seems to be a problem recognizing harm inflicted in many areas of social behavior and it takes some some sort of authority to define and enforce ethics and morality.
That's bait
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But OP needs that sweet karma so they can post more meaningful propaganda as we get closer to elections! You can’t wait until election day to validate your social accounts! You’ve got to do it early so they look legit on election night!
Teachers over here like "please don't call on me, please don't call on me"...
Funny how you say "men".
Because humans without rules are just fancy apes.
Governments tell everyone who they can and can't marry. Who do you think grants marriage licenses?
Because before governments were a thing there was no such a thing as underage? But I feel it is more like that a vast majority of men, women and others need government to keep the minority that would actually go and marry kids to men on the leash.
We shouldn't need them to enforce it, we should have had those basic values from our education (like most of us do). The government is here to punish those who, regardless of values, choose to do it. However nowadays people in the governments seem to not share said values from time to time
if we didn't define the year and never knew the age of people or ourselves, how would we define underaged?
...because they aren't underage unless the government says so?
For the same reason they need religion to not kill someone
Well religion is the reason for most ill’s crusades and invasions throughout history. Let me phrase it right. “They need “RULE OF LAW” to save people from getting killed by religion”. Read Bible, it permits slavery, genocide,etc. It’s pretty fun to read.
*and women
The old days when marrying your 12 yr old cousin was not frowned upon.
Are’t there women who are deterred by similar laws?
Historically and globally there are various reasons for marriage. Love is a relatively rare one. Usually it's been about money and influence and union between families. There are plenty of places where females are married to men many years before sex is contemplated. There are also societys where younger males are married to older females.
This really is all this user posts about.
Farm the karm, spread propaganda later. You can tell there’s an uptick in these types of accounts because they need the karma to be able to claim they’re legit accounts during election season. “Look! They’ve got 13000 karma and social justice issues! There’s no way they’re spreading Russian propaganda!”
Oh my god shut the fuck up
Why is this pointlessly gendered? Why do teachers need to be told not rape students?
Check op's history, it's clear that the guy is either a bot or a very depressed feminist that is blaming everyone else except herself about why her life sucks.
Karma farm. Gain karma now, spend it later to troll for Putin. In another month it’ll all be political.
crazy that most news are reporting more and more female teachers fucking minors, but sure
It’s been a disturbing uptick in the last 5 years… one of those boys was only 12.
Little punks need to keep their mouth shut and enjoy what most boys wish they had.
Cool hatemongering m8
Ummmm.... they don't. Child marriage as young as 13 is legal in the US. The situation is actually worse than what this meme is showing
Wtf!?
Why does society act like this is only a male issue?
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/6-female-teachers-arrested-for-sexual-misconduct-with-students-in-us-3951950/amp/1 this was the first article I saw when I googled female to male rape… there’s been a frightening uptick with teachers in particular. Even more frightening when you realize that female teacher make an incredibly small demographic. Makes you wonder what the real numbers are across the gambit.
It’s crazy that the article is “sexual misconduct with students” and not “rape”… imagine the tables turned
They do not call it rape Because of blatant sexism. Also , for the same reason there are laws in countries like UK where make it impossible legally for a man to be classified as rape victim or a woman as rapist.
Imagine splitting that hair…
We should call rape rape, not sure how it’s an argument
"Love is love" 😄❤🏳️🌈🏳️🌈 "Love is love" 💀🤬🚨👮♂️
Why only men?! The law is for mens and women's ...
Why do women get asked to sign a prenup when they marry?
I guess that for the same reason women need it too.
It’s not men who need to be told no. It’s conservatives.
Dem men prefer underage boys. Both are sick and should be wiped from the planet.
> Dems prefer underage boys That’s a strange way of spelling Republicans
Apparently you have trouble reading. Dems make it very clear now they feel about sex with underage kids.
You do realize the democrats fund these so called conservatives right? You should reject the far right as they are controlled opposition there to make dems look good. Well damn you are absolutely correct.
Most democratic voters are never exposed to these perspectives, info, or just facts that look bad or contradict them or any individual on "their team". And its mostly not their fault. I'd say the same is true of republican voters, except if you turn on the TV it's unavoidable as the majority of our cultural centers (Hollywood and mainstream media) is left. So you're still getting the criticism reaching you in some way if you're a Bublican. I say this as someone who still votes for mostly liberal aligned perspectives. But I can see that democratic party has been captured by corporate and corrupt incentives. They are not the party they pretend to be.
And apparently you’re an idiot
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FFytCr0VKnU&si=yC8SmnniBZr5Ulgb Americans in general are idiots
So right wingers are mostly pedos??? Including center right? Democrats are right wing that is a fact actually
I’m not playing pigeon chess with you.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FFytCr0VKnU&si=yC8SmnniBZr5Ulgb I know I lack patience for stupid people and terrorists. If you learned how to think critically you would know that.
Instead of googling it, I'd rather ask you. What's pigeon chess? It sounds awesome!
We need governments to tell people not to kill people. Most people can be moral if their society has a strong religious or arts culture, but if you can't punish the murderers, that's an issue.
Oh yeah women never do anything to underage boys😒
You know, technically speaking your post fits quite well in this subreddit, it perfectly encapsulate the only two appropriate reactions someone should have: - laugh at you - feeling sadness for you, almost pity
Why do women need to be told not to fuck their students?
Misandry is indeed funny and sad.
all throughout human history underaged girls were married off to adult males.
Doesn’t make it okay. Slavery and many other atrocities have existed all throughout history as well.
For the same reason we need a minimum wage for companies. They’re pieces of shit that will go as low as possible.
Pretty simple, because underage isn't an absolute thing. You might think it is, because your government told you what they consider underage and thus set a limit that differs worldwide of what's considered underage, consent or whatever. If it was clear cut, it would be clear cut globally, which it isn't. And it would be a dick move of governments to not tell people what is legal or illegal. And don't give me your morality, I'm only addressing the stupidity of the question.
There are no stupid questions. Nobody is born knowing or realizing or understanding a thing. Even if you feel it's self obvious, not everyone is the same. Never hurts to share knowledge. Hell, on Reddit, we know next to nothing about a commenter. You might literally be interacting with a 10 year old.
There are absolutely stupid questions, but they are the ones asked in bad faith to provoke an expected response. Just look at every "question" Tucker Carlson asks and you'll see what stupid questions are.
Why aren't underage girls taught to stop being little sluts and trying to be with older men
Oh that's easy. Because most would be attracted to an underage girl.
Oh come on, you're saying Mohammed shouldn't have married a 6 year old?
Because they were aloud to for a very long time.
They should raise it to 30 years
Why cus you don’t have the guts to ask someone out? 🤣