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UJ/ honestly real interested in the direction the story could go from a woman's perspective. Wanted so badly to play as Sadie in RDR2.
RJ/ how could you do this R*....I never wanted politics in my gta.....
"That god damn Colm O'Driscoll transed all our genders, Dutch!"
"God dammit, Arthur! I've got a plan to make enough money to go to Thailand and get us all some SRS! You gotta trust me!"
GTA tends to be a lot more boorish than R2D2, so I suspect the female character will be very similar to the male characters, swearing, shooting and so on.
To be fair women acted way differently in 1899 versus now, even as criminals.
GTA protagonists by nature also pretty much have to be psychopaths. Even Niko was pretty okay with killing despite his PTSD.
>GTA protagonists by nature also pretty much have to be psychopaths.
Not really, a some of the protaganists aren't really psychopathic at all. Tommy Vercetti was a cold blooded killer but he seemed mentally quite stable and Vic Vance actively tries to be a good person and just gets forced into doing bad stuff. The 'evil' ness of the protaganists kinda are by the city, with the Liberty City Protagonists being the most evil (Claude killing without remorse, Tony grinding a guy into meat and selling him and committing multiple terrorist bombings, Niko murdering hundreds) The Los Santos Protaganists are kinda in the middle and the Vice City protaganists tend to be the 'nicest' so i don't doubt the GTA 6 protaganists will follow suit
Any guy that willfully kills dozens of people in the name of money or revenge is not mentally well though.
Likable =/= “not a psycho”.
Pretty much all shootout dialogue indicates that they revel in the killing, even the more stable ones like Niko (“this is nothing, I was in a war!”). All GTA protagonists say some pretty messed up things while pointing a gun at somebody or looting corpses in addition to the horrible acts they commit in story missions.
Even Arthur Morgan is an awful person as much as we love him as a character.
I’m not saying that GTA should have a good person as main character, I’m saying a GTA story can’t work if they are. No matter how we try to justify Rockstar protagonists there is no doubt all of them do awful things, even if they might regret it.
Edit: people with way too much time and an inflated sense of moral superiority seem to think “GTA protagonists who repeatedly and unflinchingly kill for money and regret nothing but the consequences are mentally ill” is ableist apparently.
Those wanting to throwing stones, do you seriously think these GTA protagonists don’t have some variant of narcissistic personality disorder...? People who kill without remorse often get sent to insane asylums. Acknowledging that isn’t ableist.
I don't think you should conflate morals with mental health, it borders on ableism.
Historically morals have been drastically different to the modern day, that doesn't mean that historically all those people were mentally unwell. You can be perfectly mentally healthy and have different standards of morality.
Also, there is consistency to consider. Are you consistent with this thought? If you consider a person mentally unwell if they kill a few dozen with a gun for money, do you also consider a person mentally unwell if they kill a few thousand using a pen for money?
Different moral standards aren't mental instability or illness. This thought tends to harm people who are actually mentally ill by making people view them as dangerous.
I really want GTA to lean into the goofier side of things rather than having the too serious story. The “satirical” world clashes pretty hard with the serious crime stories they try to tell and it does not work for me.
IDK, GTA 4 has my favourite story and it's probably the seriousest, but San Andreas is the silliest and it's also pretty great
I think they just need to pick one, and not do like GTA 5 where they try to do both at once
Eh, personally I liked GTAV way more than GTA4. The latter just felt boring to me, while the former (along with San Andreas) is a perfect mix of seriousness and goofiness, without being as stupid as Saints Row.
My problem with games trying hard to be serious is that, most of the time, the plot reminds me of angsty B-movies.
I had the most fun shootouts in 4, myself. The police AI seemed very "fuck your fun" focused from what I remembered of V.
I also couldn't forgive V for what it did to my boy Johnny K.
I remember hating the shootouts in GTA IV as a kid but replaying it this year I began to appreciate its difficulty and nuances. You couldn’t just hold down the fire button and expect to kill anybody quickly yet A.I. was balanced in a way that they didn’t hitscan you the millisecond you broke cover.
Replaying GTA V right after replaying IV this year made me realize how tedious V’s gunfights and A.I. were. Every single cop can clap you from 50 meters away with a pistol and it becomes really annoying after a while.
That's my thoughts on it exactly, though I personally loved it when I was younger too. Even the way cops and pedestrians would react to being shot or hit had so much more life to it that V's did.
If I could get the smoothness and general customization of V with the nuance and writing quality of IV I'd be really happy.
Yeah absolutely.
I definitely have fears about Dan Houser and Lazlow being gone for 6 though. I believe a lot of the humor in GTA V missed but RDR2 had amazing writing all around.
I hope Rockstar is able to fill the void left by their absence and still make a great game. I have huge worries the talent vacuum will give us some shitty Far Cry ripoff that every open world but GTA tries to be nowadays.
GTA V has planes and I’m a sucker for fixed-winged aircraft.
Klebitz was a very sympathetic character, but let’s not pretend that he was some innocent lamb lmao
I think my problem is that V didn’t take itself to an annoyingly degree. The humor is way more self-aware and less subtle than IV’s or even SA’s. Michael’s son practically explains the joke several times throughout the story and it gets annoying.
Replaying V a couple months ago after replaying IV made me realize how IV’s subtler humor is actually way funnier as an adult.
I do think SA hit the balance perfectly though. Serious story but also goofy and cartoony and memeable.
San Andreas' story wasn't really focused after the 1st act, it's just CJ doing random shit in new areas until he gets back to Los Santos and the plot starts again
I’m definitely in the minority where GTA4’s story does not work for me. It’s really weird to have Niko dramatically telling a story about the traumatic war crimes he committed and he blowing up dozens of cars with rocket launchers 5 minutes later.
Based off of the gameplay I saw, not really. Characters enter cars by jumping straight through the windshield and you can be a shirtless clown with hotdog tattoos. It still seems pretty goofy.
Afaik you aren't a god in a simulation so it won't be as insane as 4, but I tend to avoid trailers and gameplay to avoid spoilers and go in fresh so I'm not sure about the exact details tbh. I doubt they would try to make a straight laced game though considering their audience, I'm hoping for something a bit between 2 and 3 in terms of tone.
I'd be alright anywhere between 2 and 3 inclusive. I really enjoyed 4, but it was often just too much. At the very least I wouldn't have wanted them to try to go even wackier than 4. That road had reached its end.
I legit don't know how they could go wackier than 4 lol, I'll be glad for a bit more grounded of a game but I'm still expecting to beat people up in a cat costume with a giant dildo bat
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My guess is she'll either be a butch/stud that the male player base can relate to enough to accept her or she'll be eye candy. But maybe I should have more faith in R* lol, hoping she'll be interesting
>But maybe I should have more faith in R* lol, hoping she'll be interesting
I can't think of anything they've done to earn that benefit of the doubt. It seems just as likely that they make her super butch and have characters call her transphobic slurs all the time cause Rockstar thinks that's funny.
Honestly, I struggle with the reality that GTA and RDR come from the same dev. GTA 5 has some serious punching down and I can't get my head around the fact that the same company made such a compelling story about a group of oppressed outlaws.
Yeah it's kinda insane, and it's not like the company has taken some big progressive turn and disavowed their past works when they're still re-releasing GTA V and adding to the online.
I do think that they removed the exceptional hateful content when they rereleased it for a third time. Props to them for listening to outside feedback but I struggle to believe the call was coming from inside the house.
I'm hoping they do better! But I'm gonna wait to give them credit until they actually do better.
I imagine they mean in regards to the way other characters interact with them. GTA has always presented an exceedingly sexist world so to simply act like that doesn’t happen to the one female protagonist would be white-washing the issue instead of tackling it in an interesting way.
I would be surprised if R* didn’t try to tackle that issue though—I certainly hope they do.
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Wow, you’re right. Games are sexist. Now, allow me to get back to accusing gamers of playing games and sucking Anita Sarkeesian’s cock. Edit: Wow. I’ve truly been challenged. Enlightened, even. Who knew the political views of my fellow gamers could be so diverse?
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Using inclusive language to try and stop diversity is gross.
If Rockstars first female protagonist is just a man with boobs it's because the developer is a childish boys club going through the motions.
You guys should see the comments in r/gta6 already talking about "making satire of both sides" aka a stereotypical racist portrayal of the female main character. There's a reason people don't like comedians who punch down and make fun of marginalized groups lol.
If it ain't Bonny & Claire, or Bob & Clyde, I'm not interested. I wish Rockstar would just stop forcing its heteronormative agenda down our throats ^without ^consent and let us play as a normal everyday Latina drag queen.
I've only ever played GTA V online and I honestly had no idea there hasn't been a female protagonist yet! It seems like a no-brainer, but hey I'd rather it be late than never.
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Is online any good?
Only ever played it in single player, the idea of an open world filled with your standard GTA players doesn’t appeal to me all that much
Personally, the open world having other players isn’t really what I get fun from. I enjoy the things to do with other people (where you’re on the same team) like heists, I like doing crimes to buy and customize cars, I like buying clothes and styling my character, I like making money to buy customize and manage businesses, and I like the little fun things like going to the casino.
I only have one friend who plays and it’s definitely more fun when I play with them, but I think the heists and missions are fun enough that it’s worth playing solo as well.
That being said most heists and some missions require at least two people so you may have to pair with randoms which usually goes really well or really bad.
As a political myself, it's about damn time there was a female protag in the GTA series. I'm pretty shocked it took Rockstar this long to include one. Here's hoping we get one in RDR3! Shoot, if they ever make another Bully game (unlikely), they should have a girl protag in that one, too. The worst bullies at my school growing up were the girls, bar none. They were completely merciless.
And for anyone who thinks girls can't be realistically portrayed as gangsters/hard, allow me to introduce you to Snoop from The Wire.
They’ve even seeded a potential Red Dead sequel or DLC with Sadie. I think she runs a Merc company in South America? Which, if you consider the Western as a genre instead of a location (which some people intellectually incapable of doing), I’d love to see Red Dead take the aesthetic and narrative style of a western and apply it in a different location.
My other “dream” sequel would be Jack Marston in North Africa before, during, or after the First World War.
Honestly I’d love to see Jack as a ‘20s gangster.
Shockingly few games cover that era. The one I was super hyped for a decade ago, Faith and a .45, was cancelled.
I would fucking love a game following Jack in the 20s as he is the new generation of outlaws (John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, John Ashley, ect.)
my idea, in 1918 Jack Marston is a disillusioned young man, left with no family or friends, he’s tried to maintain the ranch but it is eventually foreclosed and Jack decides to leave, it’s 1922 and Jack has ended up in the Midwest usa somewhere near Philadelphia or Chicago, he witnesses a bank robbery in a small town and through some way he ends up joining the gang, Jack and the gang rob banks and trains and stores becoming public enemies and being hunted, I am really bad at coming up with stories so I don’t have much
The main city would be Philadelphia and would have horse-drawn carriages, early 1920s cars and trams, while traveling into the countryside and into small towns would be more reminiscent of the wild west (no cars just horses). There’d be lots of gangs, gangs in the city would be street kids (young adults) who rob pedestrians and the occasional store, the mob. In the countryside would be a gangs similar to the Bonnie and Clyde gang who are young wild adults and then another gang could be a mix of older and young people who are still holding onto the old Wild West way and then the weird supernatural gang that lurk in the night and kill travelers
Some side missions would be meeting an old man who’s a retired Wild West sheriff or outlaw and Jack and the two converse (similar to John and Hamish Sinclair missions). Helping out Albert Mason’s child or grandchild shoot early movies. Coming across a Wild West show and participating in it in some way. Helping out cowboys rustle and herd.
Closest one I can think of is mafia 1 but that game mostly takes place in the early to late 30s. I heard rumours of a prequel to mafia 1 about Don Salieri in Sicily in the turn of the century to maybe 1910s/1920s but not sure how real that is.
Yeah it’s was supposed to be a Bonnie and Clyde “squad based” shooter during the Great Depression. Made by the same team that made the forgotten gem Total Overdose.
I assumed any single player RDR2 DLC was dead before it ever got off the ground. I haven't touched the game in a while but once they started pumping out online stuff, it was clear single player was "done" and the extra areas of the map were never getting finished.
Oh well, still a great game. Just not interested in online at all.
>if you consider the Western as a genre instead of a location (which some people intellectually incapable of doing)
Even if you did consider the Western as a location, those locations include South America lol
/uj I think Rockstar did a really great job with Sadie’s character in RDR2. Projecting that energy and writing onto a GTA VI protagonist will be really interesting to see!
/rj w*man detected, opinion discarded
>if they ever make another Bully game (unlikely), they should have a girl protag in that one, too
Honestly I don't want this. Not because I hate having female protagonists in games but if Rockstar finally decided to make a sequel to bully after 20 years and didn't make Jimmy Hopkins the protagonist I'd be pissed.
It's been a long time. Have Jimmy be a groundskeeper at the school or something who helps the new protagonist. I swear there's a character like that in Bully and it'd be a pretty funny and interesting progression to see Jimmy take his place.
Gamers hate women, because they are political, which means that they like men, which means they are gay, but gay is political, but gamers hate politics. Paradox.
Amount of clowns in that thread complaining about politics and not being able to punch down is gross
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You can't trust critics, but you can trust the guy whose 0/10 review just says "i hate gay people i hate gay people i hate gay people i hate gay people."
On one hand, it could very well be handled well and responsibly. Rockstar is capable of crafted well rounded characters and can tackle heavy themes.
On the other, it is GTA. So there’s going to be multiple “jokes” about casting couches and Weinstein and sexual assault. So I doubt they’ll be able to pull any sort of scene like that when they’re making fun of it outside of story missions.
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I pity the Rockstar engineer who spent the last 6 years working on the world's most realistic cock and ball physics simulation just so magic Mike's helicopter dong swinging looks believable in ray-traced 4K
Oh please let this mean these cry babies won’t be near the new gta! Please oh gaming gods! Grant me the one wish to enjoy my sexy Miami partner in crimes romance story in peace!
/uj Unironically a good thing. A true GTA game with a female protagonist is something I’ve wanted to see for a while.
I love GTA V but there’s no denying it can be kind of bigoted and sexist. I feel GTA has always been edgy but V was just South Park levels of enlightened centrist downward punching.
I would like to see a semi-realistic take on a woman’s life in crime. More like GTA IV and less like the cartoony hypercapitalist playground GTA V had.
/rj wamen bad
absolutely. i do really love GTA’s sense of humour but the worst of it, as with all humour really, is when it’s either incredibly childish or just insults. The satire of LA is hilarious but sex jokes and racism is both unfunny and more importantly really horrible. I’m really looking forward to a GTA with less of that, I think it could be incredible
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Wow, you’re right. Games are sexist. Now, allow me to get back to accusing gamers of playing games and sucking Anita Sarkeesian’s cock. Edit: Wow. I’ve truly been challenged. Enlightened, even. Who knew the political views of my fellow gamers could be so diverse?
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/uj Damn I've been fantasizing about what GTA 6's female protag could be like and I always thought about her as latina so this is awesome.
/rj the wookies won jodarn peters0n saveus
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uj/ worried and interested about how the story will end up without Dan Houser, i hope they pull this off right
rj/ ROKTER NOOOOO😭😭 DO'NT SHOVE HOKUS WOKEUS AGENDUS POLITICUS SJDOBOLYUS IN GTGaySEX!1!1!1!1!
🤢😡😡
I call bullshit. This would require Rockstar to devote GTA time and resources to a new project instead of milking the desiccated GTAV online cow for every last drop of curdled milk. In the next few weeks the CEO will come out and laugh at us and take a shit on an effigy of GTAIV hopefuls. Truly we are an oppressed class.
…this is a rj/uj hybrid comment.
In san Andreas if CJ gets a girlfriend you could do local two player with the second player as the gf. But then you could do the character skin cheat to change to a male if you wanted and could still kiss CJ so gta has been woke for awhile. Smh Cuckstar putting politics in my apolitical sigma simulator 🙄
Finally! The GTA series has been a sausage party for a long time
Being able to play as a woman in GTA Online and now this are steps in the right direction
> Play gta6
> Fun so far.
> I'm entering a new protagonist story
> See a woman
> "Okay cool a side character, now where's the cool gangster"
> Wait 10 more minutes
> No cool gangster, just random woman
> Uninstall game immediately, break computer and go cry
I hope she's a psychotic dirty redneck like Trevor.
Would love to get some more non perfect women rep 😁👌
Or 3 female protagonists like GTAV, that cover the aspects of being different types of women.
I can taste the gamer salt and I'll get to finally play a girl character.
/rj women can't commit crimes, this is just nonsensical
/uj i read somewhere that they're gonna do some kind of Bonnie and Clyde themed story, which would be pretty fun. Having partners in crime from the start would be nice
/uj That thread is crazy I saw a comment saying it would only be ok if the female character had large tits and an ass with jiggle physics. You can’t make this stuff up.
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UJ/ honestly real interested in the direction the story could go from a woman's perspective. Wanted so badly to play as Sadie in RDR2. RJ/ how could you do this R*....I never wanted politics in my gta.....
Yeah i liked all the female cast in rdr2, rockstar can probably make a cool main character
I read that as “The all female cast” and got really confused lol
Red Dead Redemption X-2
"That god damn Colm O'Driscoll transed all our genders, Dutch!" "God dammit, Arthur! I've got a plan to make enough money to go to Thailand and get us all some SRS! You gotta trust me!"
Red Dead Redemption XX chromosomes
I read this as Arthur Morgan using a dress sphere system.
Dutch's plan to go to Tahiti was just a cover for buying estrogen
Now I want that game
Dutch had the best ass. It was so political they didn’t show her midriff
NGL I thought Kieran had the best ass but maybe that’s just an opinion only Sean, Bill, and I shared
GTA tends to be a lot more boorish than R2D2, so I suspect the female character will be very similar to the male characters, swearing, shooting and so on.
To be fair women acted way differently in 1899 versus now, even as criminals. GTA protagonists by nature also pretty much have to be psychopaths. Even Niko was pretty okay with killing despite his PTSD.
>GTA protagonists by nature also pretty much have to be psychopaths. Not really, a some of the protaganists aren't really psychopathic at all. Tommy Vercetti was a cold blooded killer but he seemed mentally quite stable and Vic Vance actively tries to be a good person and just gets forced into doing bad stuff. The 'evil' ness of the protaganists kinda are by the city, with the Liberty City Protagonists being the most evil (Claude killing without remorse, Tony grinding a guy into meat and selling him and committing multiple terrorist bombings, Niko murdering hundreds) The Los Santos Protaganists are kinda in the middle and the Vice City protaganists tend to be the 'nicest' so i don't doubt the GTA 6 protaganists will follow suit
Any guy that willfully kills dozens of people in the name of money or revenge is not mentally well though. Likable =/= “not a psycho”. Pretty much all shootout dialogue indicates that they revel in the killing, even the more stable ones like Niko (“this is nothing, I was in a war!”). All GTA protagonists say some pretty messed up things while pointing a gun at somebody or looting corpses in addition to the horrible acts they commit in story missions. Even Arthur Morgan is an awful person as much as we love him as a character. I’m not saying that GTA should have a good person as main character, I’m saying a GTA story can’t work if they are. No matter how we try to justify Rockstar protagonists there is no doubt all of them do awful things, even if they might regret it. Edit: people with way too much time and an inflated sense of moral superiority seem to think “GTA protagonists who repeatedly and unflinchingly kill for money and regret nothing but the consequences are mentally ill” is ableist apparently. Those wanting to throwing stones, do you seriously think these GTA protagonists don’t have some variant of narcissistic personality disorder...? People who kill without remorse often get sent to insane asylums. Acknowledging that isn’t ableist.
I don't think you should conflate morals with mental health, it borders on ableism. Historically morals have been drastically different to the modern day, that doesn't mean that historically all those people were mentally unwell. You can be perfectly mentally healthy and have different standards of morality. Also, there is consistency to consider. Are you consistent with this thought? If you consider a person mentally unwell if they kill a few dozen with a gun for money, do you also consider a person mentally unwell if they kill a few thousand using a pen for money? Different moral standards aren't mental instability or illness. This thought tends to harm people who are actually mentally ill by making people view them as dangerous.
I really want GTA to lean into the goofier side of things rather than having the too serious story. The “satirical” world clashes pretty hard with the serious crime stories they try to tell and it does not work for me.
IDK, GTA 4 has my favourite story and it's probably the seriousest, but San Andreas is the silliest and it's also pretty great I think they just need to pick one, and not do like GTA 5 where they try to do both at once
Hard agree, 5's narrative wasn't as focused as 4 and SAs. As long as they pick one or the other I'm cool with it.
Eh, personally I liked GTAV way more than GTA4. The latter just felt boring to me, while the former (along with San Andreas) is a perfect mix of seriousness and goofiness, without being as stupid as Saints Row. My problem with games trying hard to be serious is that, most of the time, the plot reminds me of angsty B-movies.
I had the most fun shootouts in 4, myself. The police AI seemed very "fuck your fun" focused from what I remembered of V. I also couldn't forgive V for what it did to my boy Johnny K.
I remember hating the shootouts in GTA IV as a kid but replaying it this year I began to appreciate its difficulty and nuances. You couldn’t just hold down the fire button and expect to kill anybody quickly yet A.I. was balanced in a way that they didn’t hitscan you the millisecond you broke cover. Replaying GTA V right after replaying IV this year made me realize how tedious V’s gunfights and A.I. were. Every single cop can clap you from 50 meters away with a pistol and it becomes really annoying after a while.
That's my thoughts on it exactly, though I personally loved it when I was younger too. Even the way cops and pedestrians would react to being shot or hit had so much more life to it that V's did. If I could get the smoothness and general customization of V with the nuance and writing quality of IV I'd be really happy.
Yeah absolutely. I definitely have fears about Dan Houser and Lazlow being gone for 6 though. I believe a lot of the humor in GTA V missed but RDR2 had amazing writing all around. I hope Rockstar is able to fill the void left by their absence and still make a great game. I have huge worries the talent vacuum will give us some shitty Far Cry ripoff that every open world but GTA tries to be nowadays.
GTA V has planes and I’m a sucker for fixed-winged aircraft. Klebitz was a very sympathetic character, but let’s not pretend that he was some innocent lamb lmao
I think my problem is that V didn’t take itself to an annoyingly degree. The humor is way more self-aware and less subtle than IV’s or even SA’s. Michael’s son practically explains the joke several times throughout the story and it gets annoying. Replaying V a couple months ago after replaying IV made me realize how IV’s subtler humor is actually way funnier as an adult. I do think SA hit the balance perfectly though. Serious story but also goofy and cartoony and memeable.
San Andreas' story wasn't really focused after the 1st act, it's just CJ doing random shit in new areas until he gets back to Los Santos and the plot starts again
I’m definitely in the minority where GTA4’s story does not work for me. It’s really weird to have Niko dramatically telling a story about the traumatic war crimes he committed and he blowing up dozens of cars with rocket launchers 5 minutes later.
I honestly just want Saint's Row back. That was the perfect tone for a game where I race around a city in stolen cars causing mayhem to amuse myself.
We're getting a new one in August actually
I had heard that they were abandoning the wacky tone and making a more serious game. Is that true?
Based off of the gameplay I saw, not really. Characters enter cars by jumping straight through the windshield and you can be a shirtless clown with hotdog tattoos. It still seems pretty goofy.
Well that's a relief. I'll have to check it out!
Afaik you aren't a god in a simulation so it won't be as insane as 4, but I tend to avoid trailers and gameplay to avoid spoilers and go in fresh so I'm not sure about the exact details tbh. I doubt they would try to make a straight laced game though considering their audience, I'm hoping for something a bit between 2 and 3 in terms of tone.
I'd be alright anywhere between 2 and 3 inclusive. I really enjoyed 4, but it was often just too much. At the very least I wouldn't have wanted them to try to go even wackier than 4. That road had reached its end.
I legit don't know how they could go wackier than 4 lol, I'll be glad for a bit more grounded of a game but I'm still expecting to beat people up in a cat costume with a giant dildo bat
So, saints row?
It's been done. It's called Saint's Row...and by the 4th installment, it really went off the rails.
Catalina would fit the whole "blow up everything first, ask questions later" gameplay that made the series a hit to begin with like a glove.
Same! I think a female protagonist perspective in a GTA title would be interesting!!!
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Let's hope she's more than just "a man, but female."
My guess is she'll either be a butch/stud that the male player base can relate to enough to accept her or she'll be eye candy. But maybe I should have more faith in R* lol, hoping she'll be interesting
>But maybe I should have more faith in R* lol, hoping she'll be interesting I can't think of anything they've done to earn that benefit of the doubt. It seems just as likely that they make her super butch and have characters call her transphobic slurs all the time cause Rockstar thinks that's funny.
Sadie Adler is their best female character for sure
Honestly, I struggle with the reality that GTA and RDR come from the same dev. GTA 5 has some serious punching down and I can't get my head around the fact that the same company made such a compelling story about a group of oppressed outlaws.
Yeah it's kinda insane, and it's not like the company has taken some big progressive turn and disavowed their past works when they're still re-releasing GTA V and adding to the online.
Didn't they cut out a transphobic joke from GTA
I do think that they removed the exceptional hateful content when they rereleased it for a third time. Props to them for listening to outside feedback but I struggle to believe the call was coming from inside the house. I'm hoping they do better! But I'm gonna wait to give them credit until they actually do better.
A customisable protagonist looks wise would be nice A bit like V in Cyberpunk
Why? Have mfers like you gone so progressive that they’ve looped back to enforcing stereotypical gender roles?
I imagine they mean in regards to the way other characters interact with them. GTA has always presented an exceedingly sexist world so to simply act like that doesn’t happen to the one female protagonist would be white-washing the issue instead of tackling it in an interesting way. I would be surprised if R* didn’t try to tackle that issue though—I certainly hope they do.
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Wow, you’re right. Games are sexist. Now, allow me to get back to accusing gamers of playing games and sucking Anita Sarkeesian’s cock. Edit: Wow. I’ve truly been challenged. Enlightened, even. Who knew the political views of my fellow gamers could be so diverse? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Using inclusive language to try and stop diversity is gross. If Rockstars first female protagonist is just a man with boobs it's because the developer is a childish boys club going through the motions.
Yes. So woke I call it "sleepwokeing."
Two protagonists apparently and inspired by Bonnie & Clyde
UJ/ my biggest worry for the game is that reality has overtaken satire…
Im hoping GTA6 gets us a Sadie esque take no shit badass for a protagonist Also hoping she’s gay because the gamers will go crazy
/rj Female and Latina. That's It. Fuck GTA. /uj holy shit im excited
Uj: Was gta 6 actually announced ??
I think it was announced in much the same way that TES VI was announced. It’ll happen some day, but until then, all we’ve got is the rumor mill.
TES VI had a teaser though. GTA has nothing.
Correction: GTA VI has a "shut up, we're working on it" tweet. Take that, Todd Howard.
They announced they’re working on it And R* don’t tend to make any sort of announcement if they’re not deep into the development process
Why politic in game?
You guys should see the comments in r/gta6 already talking about "making satire of both sides" aka a stereotypical racist portrayal of the female main character. There's a reason people don't like comedians who punch down and make fun of marginalized groups lol.
Imagine Catalina from San Andreas (and III?) being in GTA VI
It would be in the 90's, because she died in gtaIII
From what I read (IDK the legitimacy lol), they’re gonna make a Bonnie and Clyde kinda characters which is pretty neat
If it ain't Bonny & Claire, or Bob & Clyde, I'm not interested. I wish Rockstar would just stop forcing its heteronormative agenda down our throats ^without ^consent and let us play as a normal everyday Latina drag queen.
So, like "Faith and a 45"
Honestly it is about time
I've only ever played GTA V online and I honestly had no idea there hasn't been a female protagonist yet! It seems like a no-brainer, but hey I'd rather it be late than never.
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Is online any good? Only ever played it in single player, the idea of an open world filled with your standard GTA players doesn’t appeal to me all that much
Personally, the open world having other players isn’t really what I get fun from. I enjoy the things to do with other people (where you’re on the same team) like heists, I like doing crimes to buy and customize cars, I like buying clothes and styling my character, I like making money to buy customize and manage businesses, and I like the little fun things like going to the casino. I only have one friend who plays and it’s definitely more fun when I play with them, but I think the heists and missions are fun enough that it’s worth playing solo as well. That being said most heists and some missions require at least two people so you may have to pair with randoms which usually goes really well or really bad.
So like Monster Hunter then… The randos will either be experts, or will basically run into the gunfire/monsters
especially given there have been 11 protagonists. 11 whole different characters and not one of them female.
The ratio of men to women is 11:1, didnt you know
in GTA 1 you can choose to play as a Woman so it’s more 37:5
As a political myself, it's about damn time there was a female protag in the GTA series. I'm pretty shocked it took Rockstar this long to include one. Here's hoping we get one in RDR3! Shoot, if they ever make another Bully game (unlikely), they should have a girl protag in that one, too. The worst bullies at my school growing up were the girls, bar none. They were completely merciless. And for anyone who thinks girls can't be realistically portrayed as gangsters/hard, allow me to introduce you to Snoop from The Wire.
They’ve even seeded a potential Red Dead sequel or DLC with Sadie. I think she runs a Merc company in South America? Which, if you consider the Western as a genre instead of a location (which some people intellectually incapable of doing), I’d love to see Red Dead take the aesthetic and narrative style of a western and apply it in a different location. My other “dream” sequel would be Jack Marston in North Africa before, during, or after the First World War.
I don't think a jack sequel would work if it wasn't a radically different game. A story about sadie in south america, maybe argentina, would be cool
Why would a Jack sequel require a different radically different game if it’s North Africa?
cause ww1 and like machines and stuff, both games are about the death of the western so there's not really a reason to go anywhere beyond that
Sadie specifically mentions wanting to go to Brazil, and guess what Brazil had at the time? Its very own wild west outlaw scene.
come to brazil or brazil will come to you
Honestly I’d love to see Jack as a ‘20s gangster. Shockingly few games cover that era. The one I was super hyped for a decade ago, Faith and a .45, was cancelled.
I would fucking love a game following Jack in the 20s as he is the new generation of outlaws (John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, John Ashley, ect.) my idea, in 1918 Jack Marston is a disillusioned young man, left with no family or friends, he’s tried to maintain the ranch but it is eventually foreclosed and Jack decides to leave, it’s 1922 and Jack has ended up in the Midwest usa somewhere near Philadelphia or Chicago, he witnesses a bank robbery in a small town and through some way he ends up joining the gang, Jack and the gang rob banks and trains and stores becoming public enemies and being hunted, I am really bad at coming up with stories so I don’t have much The main city would be Philadelphia and would have horse-drawn carriages, early 1920s cars and trams, while traveling into the countryside and into small towns would be more reminiscent of the wild west (no cars just horses). There’d be lots of gangs, gangs in the city would be street kids (young adults) who rob pedestrians and the occasional store, the mob. In the countryside would be a gangs similar to the Bonnie and Clyde gang who are young wild adults and then another gang could be a mix of older and young people who are still holding onto the old Wild West way and then the weird supernatural gang that lurk in the night and kill travelers Some side missions would be meeting an old man who’s a retired Wild West sheriff or outlaw and Jack and the two converse (similar to John and Hamish Sinclair missions). Helping out Albert Mason’s child or grandchild shoot early movies. Coming across a Wild West show and participating in it in some way. Helping out cowboys rustle and herd.
Closest one I can think of is mafia 1 but that game mostly takes place in the early to late 30s. I heard rumours of a prequel to mafia 1 about Don Salieri in Sicily in the turn of the century to maybe 1910s/1920s but not sure how real that is.
Damn, that title’s good enough to make me sad it was canceled too
Yeah it’s was supposed to be a Bonnie and Clyde “squad based” shooter during the Great Depression. Made by the same team that made the forgotten gem Total Overdose.
I assumed any single player RDR2 DLC was dead before it ever got off the ground. I haven't touched the game in a while but once they started pumping out online stuff, it was clear single player was "done" and the extra areas of the map were never getting finished. Oh well, still a great game. Just not interested in online at all.
>if you consider the Western as a genre instead of a location (which some people intellectually incapable of doing) Even if you did consider the Western as a location, those locations include South America lol
/uj I think Rockstar did a really great job with Sadie’s character in RDR2. Projecting that energy and writing onto a GTA VI protagonist will be really interesting to see! /rj w*man detected, opinion discarded
>if they ever make another Bully game (unlikely), they should have a girl protag in that one, too Honestly I don't want this. Not because I hate having female protagonists in games but if Rockstar finally decided to make a sequel to bully after 20 years and didn't make Jimmy Hopkins the protagonist I'd be pissed.
I think they could do both. If GTA5 can have three playable characters, Bully 2 can have two.
It's been a long time. Have Jimmy be a groundskeeper at the school or something who helps the new protagonist. I swear there's a character like that in Bully and it'd be a pretty funny and interesting progression to see Jimmy take his place.
Please clarify which political you are so I know beforehand which slur to use, thanks for understanding
NTA, your husband, your catgirl maid bussy
Same here girl. When GTA5 introduced 3 playable characters I was hoping in the next game they have a female as a playable character
Uj/ bout time lol Rj/ What's next for Grand Theft WOKO?!!. Built in pronoun police?!!
Gamers hate women, because they are political, which means that they like men, which means they are gay, but gay is political, but gamers hate politics. Paradox.
that means gamers are aro/ace or like non-binary people but that's also political 🤷
I don't have time for relationships I need to learn how to waveshine
Schrodingers bigot?
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I heard the sound of a million keyboards angrily clacking.
A million bags of Cheetos just opened to fuel the rage
A tidal wave of Dew to power the slur engines.
The gta 6 thread on r/games has over 300 comments in an hour lmao
YOU PUT WAHMEN IN MY VIDYA ROCKSTAR MORE LIKE WOKESTAR SJW TRASH LIBERAL AGENDA
GTA VI GONNA BE CULTURAL SENSITIVE?! NOOOO GTA GONE WOKE!!! NO EDGY JOKES ANYMORE!!!
Women: *exist* Triggered people because of it: **iTs tOo PoLiTiCaL nOw!!1**
Amount of clowns in that thread complaining about politics and not being able to punch down is gross Edit: I think the chud hivemind recently found the r/games thread because I was getting a solid amount of upvotes on a comment and now it's down by half and being marked as controversial
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HERE IT COMES!!!!! 😆
This is gonna be a 98 critic vs 1.4 user rating isnt it. Assemble rating warriors!
You can't trust critics, but you can trust the guy whose 0/10 review just says "i hate gay people i hate gay people i hate gay people i hate gay people."
You can't trust critics, unless they're agreeing with me. But if they're not agreeing with me, then they're 100% paid shills.
GTA VI, more like TLOU2.5.
It’s also GTA, so most of the chuds who bitch and moan and review bomb it are going to play it anyway
>GTA 6 >Existing Lmao ok
Saints Row did it first. And I bet Rockstar won’t even have the balls to let you run around naked
In Saints Row 2 you could even choose how your character walked. You could make a fabulous guy with a hip-swinging walk, it was great.
>You could make a fabulous ~~guy~~ zombie with a hip-swinging walk, it was great.
GTA with the freedom of character customization Saints Row has would be great
This sounds like reverse psychology to Rockstar so you can see a naked girl in a video game lol
/uj who wants to bet she's gonna be victim to some sort of gender violence during the course of the game story?
On one hand, it could very well be handled well and responsibly. Rockstar is capable of crafted well rounded characters and can tackle heavy themes. On the other, it is GTA. So there’s going to be multiple “jokes” about casting couches and Weinstein and sexual assault. So I doubt they’ll be able to pull any sort of scene like that when they’re making fun of it outside of story missions.
I’d say give a couple more games. Best not to throw that in on the first female protagonist.
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Oh, so we're gonna enter a male strip club?.... Asking for a friend
I'm hoping for a bi protagonist who can visit male and female strip clubs
There actually was a gay club in GTA 5 but it's a buyable property so it's completely unenterable
Why would you need to be bi to visit both?
I pity the Rockstar engineer who spent the last 6 years working on the world's most realistic cock and ball physics simulation just so magic Mike's helicopter dong swinging looks believable in ray-traced 4K
I would never stop laughing at a dude’s junk bouncing a la DOA boob physics.
Why do you pity them?
Keep me away from those naked men! You better tell me where every male strip club is so I can avoid them because I’m not gay!!!!!!
Gay Tony returns
So they finally caught up to what Saints Row did over a decade ago. Congrats.
Oh please let this mean these cry babies won’t be near the new gta! Please oh gaming gods! Grant me the one wish to enjoy my sexy Miami partner in crimes romance story in peace!
they’re all gunna pre-order it the second it’s announced lol
https://c.tenor.com/zXeLI09P0mkAAAAC/bobs-burgers.gif
They’re too media addicted to ever stop
Womanising? What’s wrong with a bit of Britney in GTA
/uj Unironically a good thing. A true GTA game with a female protagonist is something I’ve wanted to see for a while. I love GTA V but there’s no denying it can be kind of bigoted and sexist. I feel GTA has always been edgy but V was just South Park levels of enlightened centrist downward punching. I would like to see a semi-realistic take on a woman’s life in crime. More like GTA IV and less like the cartoony hypercapitalist playground GTA V had. /rj wamen bad
absolutely. i do really love GTA’s sense of humour but the worst of it, as with all humour really, is when it’s either incredibly childish or just insults. The satire of LA is hilarious but sex jokes and racism is both unfunny and more importantly really horrible. I’m really looking forward to a GTA with less of that, I think it could be incredible
Sexism and racism is kinda big part of every GTA game so far. I don't think that it's much of a problem if it stays in the game.
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Wow, you’re right. Games are sexist. Now, allow me to get back to accusing gamers of playing games and sucking Anita Sarkeesian’s cock. Edit: Wow. I’ve truly been challenged. Enlightened, even. Who knew the political views of my fellow gamers could be so diverse? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
/uj Damn I've been fantasizing about what GTA 6's female protag could be like and I always thought about her as latina so this is awesome. /rj the wookies won jodarn peters0n saveus
/rj Greedstar is targeting gamers now, GAMERS! /uj God please be a well written, horrible character.
You not rocking with women⁉️
Took too long to see this
Just looked at all the comments. I didn't know GTA fans were so sensitive. Also that having a female protagonist would ruin gaming apparently
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People acting like a woman driving fast cars isn’t like the hottest thing ever >!it’s because of the seatbelts!<
Honestly, it's time.
Pretty sure GTA 1 and 2 had female characters as main cast, but geymers wouldnt remember or care.
uj/ worried and interested about how the story will end up without Dan Houser, i hope they pull this off right rj/ ROKTER NOOOOO😭😭 DO'NT SHOVE HOKUS WOKEUS AGENDUS POLITICUS SJDOBOLYUS IN GTGaySEX!1!1!1!1! 🤢😡😡
I call bullshit. This would require Rockstar to devote GTA time and resources to a new project instead of milking the desiccated GTAV online cow for every last drop of curdled milk. In the next few weeks the CEO will come out and laugh at us and take a shit on an effigy of GTAIV hopefuls. Truly we are an oppressed class. …this is a rj/uj hybrid comment.
/hj
Next thing you know they'll add pronounce 😟
If you misgender someone you instantly get 6 stars and the pronoun police run you over with a tank.
What they don’t realize is womanizing has always been a part of GTA
/r/gamingcirclejerk eatin' right now
uj/ I can’t even begin to describe how excited this makes me for GTA6
Dlc for playing as Catalina would be fire
You could play as a woman in GTA 1.
The jiggle physics better be good.
Rockstar is going to copy/paste/genderswap Trevor. Quote me.
In san Andreas if CJ gets a girlfriend you could do local two player with the second player as the gf. But then you could do the character skin cheat to change to a male if you wanted and could still kiss CJ so gta has been woke for awhile. Smh Cuckstar putting politics in my apolitical sigma simulator 🙄
finally
I wanna meet the neckbeard whose actually offended by this.
Finally! The GTA series has been a sausage party for a long time Being able to play as a woman in GTA Online and now this are steps in the right direction
This guy doesn't even know what womaniser means.
\#womancanbecriminalstoo \#ladycrimes
> Play gta6 > Fun so far. > I'm entering a new protagonist story > See a woman > "Okay cool a side character, now where's the cool gangster" > Wait 10 more minutes > No cool gangster, just random woman > Uninstall game immediately, break computer and go cry
They will do a TLOU 2 to GTA 6 and then say that wokeness ruins games bc they cant accept that women exist
Uj/ I think the biggest thing for me was more interior location than previous games
Politics is when women
How will Jordan Peterson ever recover from this
I hope she's a psychotic dirty redneck like Trevor. Would love to get some more non perfect women rep 😁👌 Or 3 female protagonists like GTAV, that cover the aspects of being different types of women. I can taste the gamer salt and I'll get to finally play a girl character.
Republican incels = triggered
>Why **they** womanising gta man? Pronounce 😡😡😡
/rj women can't commit crimes, this is just nonsensical /uj i read somewhere that they're gonna do some kind of Bonnie and Clyde themed story, which would be pretty fun. Having partners in crime from the start would be nice
/uj That thread is crazy I saw a comment saying it would only be ok if the female character had large tits and an ass with jiggle physics. You can’t make this stuff up.
This will certainly be one of the games ever made.
*Women, black people or gay people just existing* Assholes like that user: **iTs ToO pOlItIcAL nOw!!1**
It's strange that a game franchise about being a psycho felon for hire now has to worry about being politically correct.
That guy does NOT know what womanizing means
Saints Row has been doing this for years