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something happening for the first time in the darkest paradise, crossing the line for someone, they (i.e., outsiders, the public) say she’s gone too far.
and comparing love to a drug and the act of using — the stigma, the negative connotations (i.e., ‘drugs are bad’). using for the rest of her life — suggesting this isn’t a phase, it’s who she is.
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Have we all forgotten about the "best friends" Vogue article?! Titled "Two for the Show" (cough Champagne Problems cough).
Big Sur Trip - "Now I'm your Daisy" (pic of the daisy on the car dashboard and then Same flower drawn next to the lyric), "congratulations on your engagement, take her to Big Sur". Soooo many lyrics and references to this trip throughout her discography.
Multiple hairpin references. Literally no excuse for that lol.
I also mentioned the “gay pride makes me me” thing to my friend, and she didn’t believe it. We watched it back together, and her only response was, “Oh, I didn’t notice she said that.” Haha
her saying the Man isn’t about what she’d do as a man but if she didn’t the same thing she’d get away with it as a man and then proceed to sing about “ getting bitches and models”
I think she even used the words “if I did everything EXACTLY the same” exactly?! Ok then. Get those bitches and models. Also in Miss Americana she had ghe “bitches and models” line first and then wrote the other line to rhyme with it. She really wanted to brag about getting bitches and models.
wonderland being so obviously about dianna is the smoking gun for me
also the ''my covert narcissism i disguise as altruism'' in the context of her sudden gay activism during lover era
Ok I’m not an expert at this because I only recently saw like one TikTok so this is definitely verrrry speculative. But I guess Sara Bareilles has been quoted as saying Brave is about a good friend of hers who was struggling with coming out. Then Sara performed the song with Taylor on the Red tour. Taylor also alluded to this song during her rep tour pride speech.
Kissgate, and the entirety of Question...? She is describing that concert, and there's no way that it's about anything else. I *gasped* when I first listened to that song.
The audacity to release that song KNOWING kissgate was so mainstream. I heard about kissgate before I was a swiftie or gaylor and thought I’d fucking dreamed it up or something once I became a fan. Then once I heard about gaylorism it all fell into place
I can’t find a single screenshot of this since I assume it got scrubbed from the surface of the earth, but here’s an article and the quote in response to her saying “ME! Out now”:
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/brendon-urie-thanks-taylor-swift-8508879/amp/
“Wait. This really happened?! Like for real?!?!,” he posted. “Well I can’t begin to describe how incredible it has been to work on this song and video. So I will simply say: Thank you Taylor Swift for allowing me to be a part of your beautiful story. So much fuckin love and respect. #ME!”
I like this gay Texan pic from wayyy long ago
https://preview.redd.it/cu3g7slc2c3c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f9275121a9f7eb0f78f84609af9cdbf1ffc5789
For me the strongest proof is the friendship bracelet which said proud and the colors were bi flag colors. I feel like not one single het would wear that. They could wear maybe pride bracelet with basic rainbow colors but Taylor's bracelet was too specific I think
The fact that the bracelet was allegedly given to Taylor by a fan and it said “proud ally” but she took the picture with just proud showing….. she could have taken the 1 second to turn it to show ally but she didn’t. In fact she could have at any point said she is straight or an ally or not a part of the lgbt but she never has despite everything.
Whe it comes to Hits Different, first of all it's just a grownup sad version of Our Song, which is inherently gay. But while everyone gets caught up in "Argumentative Antithetical Dream Girl," which IS super gay, what always gets me is when the bridge slows down and we get to "Is that your key in the door, down the hallway? Is that your key in the door, is it okay? Is it you? Or have they come to take me away?" Maybe it's just because of the time of year fhe album was released, but to me that line has always felt like a parallel to the movie V for Vendetta. There's a lesbian woman named Valerie telling her story about how in this world queer relationships had been outlawed ~again~ and her partner was picked up and put in a really awful prison camp situation. Eventually, her door was broken down and they came in to take her away too. All she wanted was for her partner to come back in the door, but the next time someone came in, they had come to take her away.
i see what you mean by listening to girl on red on repeat, but so do i (straight female). also i don’t think you 100% guarantee someone’s sexuality based on their music preferences especially if you’re judging it off of one artist
My favorite/undeniable proof is Christian Siriano, but my second was the combination of her talking about Easter eggs and her clues, and then bam, she’s on the cover of Entertainment Weekly in a Jean jacket with pins that SHE SAYS ARE EASTER EGGS, including a rainbow heart pride pin and a tombstone that says “I tried” with the daisy from Karlie’s Instagram post from their trip to Big Sur. What else could those be Easter eggs for?!
https://preview.redd.it/h6x3yf9cdb3c1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1db0fb6f7bc0217d13471cc988ba14202c482b11
There’s no straight explanation for the rainbow pin. I’m sorry. I know straights can wear rainbow but there is no bigger flag (or should I say hairpin drop?) than wearing rainbow shit
I have a pin just like that one! And when the straights wear rainbow, I feel like it’s usually more subtly rainbow coded vs the exact pattern of Pride flags
This! My stubbornly hetlor friend today finally was like, “hmm” when I made this exact point, in response to her refusing to believe You’re Losing Me was written in 2021
I like the 2013 Victoria Secret show where she walks out, smacks Cara Delevigne's ass, and then waves at the camera at the end of the runway and there's (inexplicable, because the visual theme is the Union Jack) RAINBOWS behind her: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pX1RpvZ8Pc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pX1RpvZ8Pc)
Her songwriting itself feels the most queer to me. Secrecy and teasing like THAT seemingly doesn’t exist in straight relationships, even with her fame. But that’s just my opinion. She seems like our modern-day closeted sapphic poet.
She learned how to center herself instead of men (which is a process a lot of comphet queers go through). The Man and Vigilante Shit scream that.
And NO ally is that passionate about being an ally. 😂
Lastly, looking into the history of the lavender scare in D.C. and the Hollywood blacklist (both of which her music felt like it directed my interest to) make me believe it even more.
But it’s all theory. I don’t want her to feel like she has to come out because none of us wanted to feel that way. It’s annoying to have to continue to explain it to everyone. I’m 30, though, and have been in the world of Taylor’s music and the evolution of gay rights in this country for the past 15 years, and I don’t know if I’m old enough yet for my age to be playing that much of a factor into my perspective here. 😅
Totally agree - “I loved you in spite of deep fears that the world would divide us” and “I would fall from grace just to touch your face”…in what universe is this about a hetero relationship?!
Babe [music video](https://youtu.be/l25AL0BdD6w) = I'm not the only one [music video](https://youtu.be/nCkpzqqog4k)(Sam smith)
Also, can't stop thinking about how lavender haze [music video](https://youtu.be/h8DLofLM7No) rips off the Better Days [music video](https://youtu.be/GQAOrCOknCY) (Mae Muller). Is there a deeper reason, are they both referencing the same thing, or does she just steal ideas?
I say this as a MASSIVE fan of Better Days, like it's been in my spotify wrapped/top 100 tracks of the year for multiple years at this point, with all respect, these are just really basic 70s aesthetics. Wood paneling, retro TV, news anchor/weathermen/primetime TV as main entertainment, fuzzy/faux fur clothes, earth tones. If anything, Taylor's LH MV is more expansive with the concept than Better Days, but obviously both are great. It's like people who claim Olivia Rodrigo was trying to rip off (I can't even remember) with the Vampire music video, like...these are just super basic aesthetics common to photoshoots capturing a certain era or genre. The reason Babe is clearly an (unhinged!) copy of Not The Only One is in part because of the timestamp matching/overall structure of their MVs being identical, like the same story beats happening at the same time, hyper specific shots that are identical (for ex. both women shot at a mid-level angle put in the right side of the frame as they perform the same action playing the same character), and gratuitous extra time added despite the song Babe being shorter just to match the length of the NTOO MV.
This is what does it for me. Even when I start to question Taylor being queer, I remember that tiktok and his IG post with “fan art” (which is still up). There is simply NO hetero explanation for it.
Her unreleased songs are actually really telling. My favourite gaylor evidence is Sweet Tea And God's Graces and how seven is literally the same song from an older perspective:
*Tire swings*, summer dreams, honeysuckle on the breeze, *Wilson County creek* -> I hit my peak at seven feet in the *swing over the creek*
We used to get *high* on the first kiss -> But I, I was *high* in the sky, with Pennsylvania under me
Laying *in the green grass*, I was watching clouds pass -> Please picture me *in the weeds*
You can get by with *sweet tea* and God's graces -> *Sweet tea* in the summer, cross your heart, won't tell no other
And the most telling of all:
You can **love like a sinner** and lose like a winner -> Then you won't have to cry, or **hide in the closet**
There's also the song Angelina and how it ties into Mandolin. Some people interpret it as her being jealous of Angelina but I interpret it as her being jealous of the boy she's dating:
He’s got everything **you’d wanna be**
He’s funny, dark and tall
Watch him run across to Angelina
But **I won’t cause**
And then there's Mandolin, which tells the story about a young man trying to achieve his dreams, then it's revealed at the end that the entire thing is actually from Taylor's perspective (probably the first instance of her writing from the male perspective). Interestingly, she references Angelina in this song:
He's got his local crowd tonight
At Angelina's family bar and grill
I feel like I'd stumbled upon those sweet tea and god's graces lyrics somewhere before, great comparison. I think Mary's Song is tied up in the seven story too.
Don’t forget Me and Britney! “Maybe I was just jealous that he’d come between me and Britney.” There are other lyrics that could be interpreted as gay, but could also just them being hashtag gal pals 🤪 for life. Y’know just classic love between friends and growing old together and such
It's the Grammy after party. MUNA, Fletcher, and Hayley Kioko were there. Here's one photo, there's lots more that you should google: https://images.app.goo.gl/2t6GULZmALvZbc59A
(Only evidence of Joe was his jacket, apparently.)
There was a photo of Jack and Joe at the party - it was only posted way after and something really gay happened that day, but I can’t recall what it was 😅
- RWYLM could mean "right where you left me - bonus track", a track from *evermore (deluxe version)* (2021) by Taylor Swift.
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The clip of her singing Call It What You Want (Karlie Would You Want To) in the Miss Americana documentary to Karlie where you can hear Karlie sing “I did one thing right”.
The entirety of lover promo and the bi wig and being mayor of gayville and the proud bracelet and me out now and all that is what sealed the deal for me. A lot of lyrics can be interpreted as her hiding from the media or singing from someone else’s pov (🙃) but those things were LOUD and hard to explain away imo. Like that’s what I would personally want her to apologize for if she ever says she’s straight. Allies don’t do that… cuz obviously if they did we’d all think they were queer too lol
- LWYMMD could mean "Look What You Made Me Do", a track from *reputation* (2017) by Taylor Swift.
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The loie fuller tribute during rep tour
Hayley Kiyoko [referencing Lavender Haze as Lavender Hays](https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMZRkqvVMs/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) (hays code)
The short index fingernail in this board game (Lover music video)
https://preview.redd.it/zq15fpazl73c1.jpeg?width=1408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aafbf8010ee2635365c2ebfb31c4773a800c6d2
Can someone explain the board game to me? I know the lyric but have never heard about this board game and short nail relating to being gay? In the dark about this one.
The Time 100 gala performance of New Years Day where she repeatedly looks directly into the camera and says “I want her midnights.”
My own biases and queer lens aside, I genuinely, truly don’t know how that video didn’t break the internet.
Listen at 22:35 - it's the second chorus, and the "HER" is undeniable to me (it was iffy on the first). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ8\_it4KRYU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ8_it4KRYU)
A while ago i mentioned these tweets (might have been in the underscore sub) and i couldn’t believe there are people that think it’s about his actual beard… Or some getting hung up on the fact that “HE was HER beard not the other way so that can’t be what he meant”. Like what?? Semantics! He was pissed his bearding relationship didn’t get him that Grammy. Period end of story!
The lyrics in The Very First Night and how all the lyrics purposefully rhyme except the ones that are supposed to rhyme with "her". There's no hetero explanation for that, I'm sorry.
As songwriter who has studied lyrical devices for years, I’m sorry to say that there is a hetsplanation for it 😭 I don’t pretend to know who the muse is about (even though I do feel it is about Dianna) but it doesn’t necessarily mean she was talking about a girl just because the last rhyme would fit better. Nowhere else in the song does she use 3rd person pronouns and ending the prechorus without a rhyme begs it to be resolved and so it makes the chorus land so much better and feel so much stronger (she could’ve easily gotten away with saying “ya” instead of a hard “you” to make it rhyme better but didn’t, making me think this was a very conscious writing tool). HOWEVER I can buy the idea that she wants people to think she was going to say “her” and was too afraid to put a song like that on Red and that’s why she released it 10 years later. Either way I would love to see any working tapes or demos of this song because I really wanna know what she was thinking there.
I’ve wondered about this before too. It made me wonder if the whole song is supposed to be using she/her instead of you. So like “I wish I could fly, I’d pick **her** up and and we’d go back in time, I’d write this in the sky, I miss **her** like it was the very first night.”
If you do that for the whole song, then the rhyme scheme pronouns/perspective switch issue is resolved. I’m not saying that’s definitely what she intended, just positing it as another possibility!
I would buy the explanation that the missed rhyme was just a tool to put emphasis on the "you"/end of the chorus if the words that set up the rhyme didn't BOTH rhyme on "her". If it was only one time, or the same word twice, then sure. But two words that rhyme on "her" is intentional, or it's one hell of a coincidence and possibly sloppy writing. So I guess I believe that there is a hetsplanation, but it's not what I'd expect from the songwriting of Taylor Swift.
I don't think "her" is the original lyrics; the "you" is supposed to be there. I think by setting up the rhyme on "her", but not going through with it, she breaks the fourth wall and tells the listener/reader that no one knows how much she misses "her" (a woman, the "you" in the song). The song has themes of secrecy (the whispering) and a wish to proclaim her feelings (to the muse and to the world) that she might not have not been able to at the time (the chorus), likely to do with the muse being a woman ("we broke the status quo"), which both the emphasis on "you" and the hidden "her" adds to.
Repeating rhyme schemes is common in pop music though, it makes the song catchier and easier to remember and when you want thousands of fans screaming your lyrics, you’ll want them to remember the words.
And yeah, I already said I could see it being an intentional shift. She does break the fourth wall a lot, usually it’s a lot more intentional and the music changes along with the pronoun switch but like I said, it’s possible she was setting it up intentionally to flag. I just don’t think it’s the most hard hitting Gaylor evidence when you have lyrics like “I can still melt your world, argumentative antithetical dream girl” and “you could hear a hairpin drop”
I see. Do you have any examples of something similar to TVFN? I know tone is difficult online so I'll add that I'm asking genuinely, I'd like to know more.
I still think a repeating rhyme scheme that includes a pronoun and then words that rhyme on another pronoun is clumsy if not intentional (especially in this particular case when she has had gay rumours for years at the time of release), but that could of course be the case.
I guess my main point is that I think the hidden "her" adds to the song, and is great writing. But then again, I come from a poetry/fine art background rather than a songwriting background, so that influences my understanding of it.
Is it over now, wonderland, I know places, style, say don’t go, you belong with me, back to December all have pre choruses with the same rhyme scheme before the chorus! I’m sure there are more but those are just the ones I can think of rn lol
I disagree with this…both you and her work for the first two times. One is about her friends not knowing “they don’t know about the night in the hotel…didn’t read the words on the Polaroid picture they don’t know…” and one is about the world not knowing “no one knows about the words that we whispered no one knows…”. Both of those could use her or you and work fine. Only the last one is directly to the muse “you’re the one on the phone as I whisper” and this is a common pattern Taylor uses in songs where she does idk if perspective change is the right word but the last time she does a chorus she changes who it is to. She also says whisper differently in the last one where it actually would have rhymed with “yah” (but she said youuuu anyway)
Throughout the whole song, she’s addressing You, as if writing a letter. She’s telling the muse about how her friends can’t really console her because they don’t know about all the details in their relationship. She’s still talking *to* You in the pre-chorus because she includes We (they weren’t riding in the car when *we* both fell / no one knows the words *we* whispered).
In the final pre-chorus after the bridge, the only thing that changes lyrically is that she’s no longer talking about her friends or other people, she’s talking about their past directly, and it makes it seem more personal and poignant.
She does change perspective in songs a lot (most recently in Slut) but changing it for just one word to rhyme isnt going to make the most sense for the song. In slut, she makes a point to make that whole verse different as if she’s not even talking about the same person. There has to be a reason for pronoun/pov shifts in songs or else it’s just sloppy.
She does the perspective change sloppily plenty of times - particularly in her younger songs. We is not just the plural of first and second person. It is also the plural of first and third person. But right after the song came out and everyone was talking about the her/you she posted a tiktok with a picture of her younger drunk self and said “the truth is I miss her” which is obviously about herself but I thought also a nod to the interpretation of the song
Speaking of sloppy perspective in early work, Forever and Always is the most egregious example of that. Like, woof is that song confusing, especially in the chorus.
New Gaylor so I don’t know every theory but here are my favorites:
-the jack antonoff clip for sure, that was hilarious
-hits different lyrics: “bet I could still melt your world, argumentative, antithetical, dream girl.” That could be normal by itself but it’s the fact that only a couple lines earlier she says “Dreams of your hair and your stare and your sense of belief”
-“call it what you want” video from miss Americana
-when she was performing I Knew You Were Trouble and sang “She never loved me.” There is no way that sounded like anything but “she” for that one.
-the time she sang “her midnights” instead of “your midnights.” For that one I’ve always thought though that it does sound like “your” if thats what you try to hear but it sounds more like “her” than “your.”
Omg the clip... Aaron looks so uncomfortable. Its obvious taylor had some liquid courage because she doesn't even look like she's buying what she's saying
I kinda really wanna know how you can explain the hits different line away? I’ve heard people say she’s referring to herself, but what is so argumentative and antithetical about Taylor Swift lol
eh i'm fully a gaylor and have been for like a decade, and i do read that line as being self-referential! she talks a lot about arguing on lover (went off like a siren just crying) and in midnight rain she positions herself as antithetical (he was sunshine i was midnight rain).
based on lots of other song lyric snippets (and i mean all of anti-hero lol), i think taylor views herself as a pretty difficult and temperamental person, at least at times.
i don't think so! if you're someone's partner i really don't think it's a stretch to call yourself (especially cheekily) your "dream girl". to me it seemed like she was saying it facetiously anyway. obviously being argumentative and antithetical aren't typical traits of a dream girl, so she's kind of dragging herself by calling herself that sarcastically lmao. that's my preferred read anyway
Not really. I think Hits Different is "satirical" in the way Blank Space is in some points (Hits Different is her playing up her own "hysteria" and kinda mocking herself post breakup, while Blank Space is about media's perception of her and yadaya). She isn't this perfect "dream girl" who saves her partner from whatever issues, no one is, but I think in this post-breakup hysteria (I always think of the BS video with the mascara and the knife in hand) she's kinda spitting back all the things they thought of her and saying that even though they left because she wasn't those things, she still has the power to melt their world. That's always how I interpreted it, anyways.
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simply, the song Don’t Blame Me.
I once was poison ivy but now I’m your daaaaaaisy
something happening for the first time in the darkest paradise, crossing the line for someone, they (i.e., outsiders, the public) say she’s gone too far. and comparing love to a drug and the act of using — the stigma, the negative connotations (i.e., ‘drugs are bad’). using for the rest of her life — suggesting this isn’t a phase, it’s who she is.
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Have we all forgotten about the "best friends" Vogue article?! Titled "Two for the Show" (cough Champagne Problems cough). Big Sur Trip - "Now I'm your Daisy" (pic of the daisy on the car dashboard and then Same flower drawn next to the lyric), "congratulations on your engagement, take her to Big Sur". Soooo many lyrics and references to this trip throughout her discography.
Multiple hairpin references. Literally no excuse for that lol. I also mentioned the “gay pride makes me me” thing to my friend, and she didn’t believe it. We watched it back together, and her only response was, “Oh, I didn’t notice she said that.” Haha
Its the whole-ass documentary about coming out... as a Democrat... for me.
her saying the Man isn’t about what she’d do as a man but if she didn’t the same thing she’d get away with it as a man and then proceed to sing about “ getting bitches and models”
I think she even used the words “if I did everything EXACTLY the same” exactly?! Ok then. Get those bitches and models. Also in Miss Americana she had ghe “bitches and models” line first and then wrote the other line to rhyme with it. She really wanted to brag about getting bitches and models.
Also everything about the Riptide performance
Holy Ground meaning “Dianna Agron” and the “note on the door with the joke we made”
wonderland being so obviously about dianna is the smoking gun for me also the ''my covert narcissism i disguise as altruism'' in the context of her sudden gay activism during lover era
Please tell me more about > the theory that Brave by Sara Bareilles is about Taylor
My Tears Ricochet: "Cause when I'd fight, you used to tell me I was BRAVE"
Ok I’m not an expert at this because I only recently saw like one TikTok so this is definitely verrrry speculative. But I guess Sara Bareilles has been quoted as saying Brave is about a good friend of hers who was struggling with coming out. Then Sara performed the song with Taylor on the Red tour. Taylor also alluded to this song during her rep tour pride speech.
Kissgate, and the entirety of Question...? She is describing that concert, and there's no way that it's about anything else. I *gasped* when I first listened to that song.
The audacity to release that song KNOWING kissgate was so mainstream. I heard about kissgate before I was a swiftie or gaylor and thought I’d fucking dreamed it up or something once I became a fan. Then once I heard about gaylorism it all fell into place
Brendon Urie’s response to Me! Out Now was so unhinged and quickly deleted. Her team prob had a bounty on his head for that one.
Ooh, would love to see this/more info
Tell me more!
I can’t find a single screenshot of this since I assume it got scrubbed from the surface of the earth, but here’s an article and the quote in response to her saying “ME! Out now”: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/brendon-urie-thanks-taylor-swift-8508879/amp/ “Wait. This really happened?! Like for real?!?!,” he posted. “Well I can’t begin to describe how incredible it has been to work on this song and video. So I will simply say: Thank you Taylor Swift for allowing me to be a part of your beautiful story. So much fuckin love and respect. #ME!”
I like this gay Texan pic from wayyy long ago https://preview.redd.it/cu3g7slc2c3c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f9275121a9f7eb0f78f84609af9cdbf1ffc5789
I have not heard the theory about brave being about Taylor. Is there more info about that?
I have not heard the theory about brave being about Taylor. Is there more info about that?
For me the strongest proof is the friendship bracelet which said proud and the colors were bi flag colors. I feel like not one single het would wear that. They could wear maybe pride bracelet with basic rainbow colors but Taylor's bracelet was too specific I think
The fact that the bracelet was allegedly given to Taylor by a fan and it said “proud ally” but she took the picture with just proud showing….. she could have taken the 1 second to turn it to show ally but she didn’t. In fact she could have at any point said she is straight or an ally or not a part of the lgbt but she never has despite everything.
Whe it comes to Hits Different, first of all it's just a grownup sad version of Our Song, which is inherently gay. But while everyone gets caught up in "Argumentative Antithetical Dream Girl," which IS super gay, what always gets me is when the bridge slows down and we get to "Is that your key in the door, down the hallway? Is that your key in the door, is it okay? Is it you? Or have they come to take me away?" Maybe it's just because of the time of year fhe album was released, but to me that line has always felt like a parallel to the movie V for Vendetta. There's a lesbian woman named Valerie telling her story about how in this world queer relationships had been outlawed ~again~ and her partner was picked up and put in a really awful prison camp situation. Eventually, her door was broken down and they came in to take her away too. All she wanted was for her partner to come back in the door, but the next time someone came in, they had come to take her away.
Posting so I can come back here
i see what you mean by listening to girl on red on repeat, but so do i (straight female). also i don’t think you 100% guarantee someone’s sexuality based on their music preferences especially if you’re judging it off of one artist
My favorite/undeniable proof is Christian Siriano, but my second was the combination of her talking about Easter eggs and her clues, and then bam, she’s on the cover of Entertainment Weekly in a Jean jacket with pins that SHE SAYS ARE EASTER EGGS, including a rainbow heart pride pin and a tombstone that says “I tried” with the daisy from Karlie’s Instagram post from their trip to Big Sur. What else could those be Easter eggs for?! https://preview.redd.it/h6x3yf9cdb3c1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1db0fb6f7bc0217d13471cc988ba14202c482b11
Oh my god I just noticed the Killing Eve pin too
The whole jacket gives big bi energy!!
There’s no straight explanation for the rainbow pin. I’m sorry. I know straights can wear rainbow but there is no bigger flag (or should I say hairpin drop?) than wearing rainbow shit
Boom. 100%
the pic jack just posted of her about YLM she's wearing a brown/rainbow sweatshirt 💀
I have a pin just like that one! And when the straights wear rainbow, I feel like it’s usually more subtly rainbow coded vs the exact pattern of Pride flags
who writes three and a half albums of breakup songs in a long term, allegedly happy relationship?
This! My stubbornly hetlor friend today finally was like, “hmm” when I made this exact point, in response to her refusing to believe You’re Losing Me was written in 2021
RIGHT!
This was my introduction to gaylorism. I heard "the one" and googled "did taylor swift and Joe alwyn break up" lol. It led me to this subreddit.
I like the 2013 Victoria Secret show where she walks out, smacks Cara Delevigne's ass, and then waves at the camera at the end of the runway and there's (inexplicable, because the visual theme is the Union Jack) RAINBOWS behind her: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pX1RpvZ8Pc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pX1RpvZ8Pc)
My favorites are the “wear you like a necklace” lyric & her and Dianna wearing matching scissor charms lol
The scissor necklaces were so unhinged I love it 😂
It’s so funny lol
Dianna Agron removing her Alice in Wonderland tattoo after Taylor released Wonderland.
This!! Why else would you remove a tattoo referencing your supposed “favorite piece of media ever” ???
This is my roman empire, I just can't believe this is a coincidence
This is the one.
Her songwriting itself feels the most queer to me. Secrecy and teasing like THAT seemingly doesn’t exist in straight relationships, even with her fame. But that’s just my opinion. She seems like our modern-day closeted sapphic poet. She learned how to center herself instead of men (which is a process a lot of comphet queers go through). The Man and Vigilante Shit scream that. And NO ally is that passionate about being an ally. 😂 Lastly, looking into the history of the lavender scare in D.C. and the Hollywood blacklist (both of which her music felt like it directed my interest to) make me believe it even more. But it’s all theory. I don’t want her to feel like she has to come out because none of us wanted to feel that way. It’s annoying to have to continue to explain it to everyone. I’m 30, though, and have been in the world of Taylor’s music and the evolution of gay rights in this country for the past 15 years, and I don’t know if I’m old enough yet for my age to be playing that much of a factor into my perspective here. 😅
Totally agree - “I loved you in spite of deep fears that the world would divide us” and “I would fall from grace just to touch your face”…in what universe is this about a hetero relationship?!
The only allies that are that passionate are the ones that haven't come out of the closet yet.
I’ve scrolled too far and not seen anyone say simply the way her and Karlie looked at each other. I’m gay and I do NOT look at my “friends” that way
Babe [music video](https://youtu.be/l25AL0BdD6w) = I'm not the only one [music video](https://youtu.be/nCkpzqqog4k)(Sam smith) Also, can't stop thinking about how lavender haze [music video](https://youtu.be/h8DLofLM7No) rips off the Better Days [music video](https://youtu.be/GQAOrCOknCY) (Mae Muller). Is there a deeper reason, are they both referencing the same thing, or does she just steal ideas?
I say this as a MASSIVE fan of Better Days, like it's been in my spotify wrapped/top 100 tracks of the year for multiple years at this point, with all respect, these are just really basic 70s aesthetics. Wood paneling, retro TV, news anchor/weathermen/primetime TV as main entertainment, fuzzy/faux fur clothes, earth tones. If anything, Taylor's LH MV is more expansive with the concept than Better Days, but obviously both are great. It's like people who claim Olivia Rodrigo was trying to rip off (I can't even remember) with the Vampire music video, like...these are just super basic aesthetics common to photoshoots capturing a certain era or genre. The reason Babe is clearly an (unhinged!) copy of Not The Only One is in part because of the timestamp matching/overall structure of their MVs being identical, like the same story beats happening at the same time, hyper specific shots that are identical (for ex. both women shot at a mid-level angle put in the right side of the frame as they perform the same action playing the same character), and gratuitous extra time added despite the song Babe being shorter just to match the length of the NTOO MV.
Christian Siriano basically confirming the dress for her failed coming out
This is what does it for me. Even when I start to question Taylor being queer, I remember that tiktok and his IG post with “fan art” (which is still up). There is simply NO hetero explanation for it.
Also if it was false, it would be beyond unprofessional for him to do this.
Exactly!!
Her unreleased songs are actually really telling. My favourite gaylor evidence is Sweet Tea And God's Graces and how seven is literally the same song from an older perspective: *Tire swings*, summer dreams, honeysuckle on the breeze, *Wilson County creek* -> I hit my peak at seven feet in the *swing over the creek* We used to get *high* on the first kiss -> But I, I was *high* in the sky, with Pennsylvania under me Laying *in the green grass*, I was watching clouds pass -> Please picture me *in the weeds* You can get by with *sweet tea* and God's graces -> *Sweet tea* in the summer, cross your heart, won't tell no other And the most telling of all: You can **love like a sinner** and lose like a winner -> Then you won't have to cry, or **hide in the closet** There's also the song Angelina and how it ties into Mandolin. Some people interpret it as her being jealous of Angelina but I interpret it as her being jealous of the boy she's dating: He’s got everything **you’d wanna be** He’s funny, dark and tall Watch him run across to Angelina But **I won’t cause** And then there's Mandolin, which tells the story about a young man trying to achieve his dreams, then it's revealed at the end that the entire thing is actually from Taylor's perspective (probably the first instance of her writing from the male perspective). Interestingly, she references Angelina in this song: He's got his local crowd tonight At Angelina's family bar and grill
I feel like I'd stumbled upon those sweet tea and god's graces lyrics somewhere before, great comparison. I think Mary's Song is tied up in the seven story too.
and perhaps its nice to have a friend/tis the damn season/suburban legends?
Don’t forget Me and Britney! “Maybe I was just jealous that he’d come between me and Britney.” There are other lyrics that could be interpreted as gay, but could also just them being hashtag gal pals 🤪 for life. Y’know just classic love between friends and growing old together and such
Actually. Scratch that. This. This is living rent free in my mind right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/g6JqOJajYb
This is also a new one for me and I can’t believe I never noticed
The bi pride wig and the P R O U D friendship bracelet post in 2019 really seemed to me like glaring hints.
Today I learned that she went to a lesbian party. Why is this not greater news?
She didn’t just go to a lesbian party, she hosted it 😂😂
It's the Grammy after party. MUNA, Fletcher, and Hayley Kioko were there. Here's one photo, there's lots more that you should google: https://images.app.goo.gl/2t6GULZmALvZbc59A (Only evidence of Joe was his jacket, apparently.)
There was a photo of Jack and Joe at the party - it was only posted way after and something really gay happened that day, but I can’t recall what it was 😅
At the time it was happening I recall seeing his back in someone's photo on Instagram but I don't think I could dig it up at this point.
Got any more info on this? I wasn't aware.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/10vtgch/taylor_fletcher_and_kelsea/ And this one too!
https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/10w3we3/im_sorry_if_this_has_been_mentioned_but_im/ Here’s a good thread from when it happened
I read from OPs list. Waiting for info from OP.
Yea and can we please see this finger nail photo?!
The hairpin drop lyrics in RWYLM and the Great War, there's really no other explanation for them
This is my favorite gaylor coded song
- RWYLM could mean "right where you left me - bonus track", a track from *evermore (deluxe version)* (2021) by Taylor Swift. --- ^[/u/four-legged-bird](/u/four-legged-bird) ^(can reply with "delete" to remove comment. |) ^[/r/songacronymbot](/r/songacronymbot) ^(for feedback.)
The clip of her singing Call It What You Want (Karlie Would You Want To) in the Miss Americana documentary to Karlie where you can hear Karlie sing “I did one thing right”.
But nooooo that was Joe! She just wanted to keep him…. Private!! lol 🙃
The entirety of lover promo and the bi wig and being mayor of gayville and the proud bracelet and me out now and all that is what sealed the deal for me. A lot of lyrics can be interpreted as her hiding from the media or singing from someone else’s pov (🙃) but those things were LOUD and hard to explain away imo. Like that’s what I would personally want her to apologize for if she ever says she’s straight. Allies don’t do that… cuz obviously if they did we’d all think they were queer too lol
>pussy magnet squad Please someone tell me what this is!!! Also what is MMM?
>pussy magnet squad in the LWYMMD music video, specifically the scene where taylor's dressed like a dominatrix, watch the screens carefully 😏
Ooh thanks! Never noticed that.
realistically i know that she was probably just wearing that collar bc of the aesthetic, but i was also like 👀 switch vibes with the crop lol
- LWYMMD could mean "Look What You Made Me Do", a track from *reputation* (2017) by Taylor Swift. --- ^[/u/four-legged-bird](/u/four-legged-bird) ^(can reply with "delete" to remove comment. |) ^[/r/songacronymbot](/r/songacronymbot) ^(for feedback.)
Midnights Mayhem with Me
Thanks!
The loie fuller tribute during rep tour Hayley Kiyoko [referencing Lavender Haze as Lavender Hays](https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMZRkqvVMs/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) (hays code) The short index fingernail in this board game (Lover music video) https://preview.redd.it/zq15fpazl73c1.jpeg?width=1408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aafbf8010ee2635365c2ebfb31c4773a800c6d2
Can someone explain the board game to me? I know the lyric but have never heard about this board game and short nail relating to being gay? In the dark about this one.
Oh my god the nail
ughhh the loie fuller tribute was so fucking iconic. i got to see it in person and dimly remember screaming "i'm so fucking gay!!!" lmao
And Taylor singing "Curious" on stage with Hayley Kiyoko after Karlie got engaged to Josh.
This is my Roman Empire.
The Time 100 gala performance of New Years Day where she repeatedly looks directly into the camera and says “I want her midnights.” My own biases and queer lens aside, I genuinely, truly don’t know how that video didn’t break the internet.
Could i get a link to this?
Listen at 22:35 - it's the second chorus, and the "HER" is undeniable to me (it was iffy on the first). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ8\_it4KRYU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ8_it4KRYU)
Because people are willfully ignorant. That’s the only explanation for that one and many, many others slipping right by.
Still all of Hits Different. And the Calvin Harris beard tweets.
A while ago i mentioned these tweets (might have been in the underscore sub) and i couldn’t believe there are people that think it’s about his actual beard… Or some getting hung up on the fact that “HE was HER beard not the other way so that can’t be what he meant”. Like what?? Semantics! He was pissed his bearding relationship didn’t get him that Grammy. Period end of story!
Does anyone have photos of these? I’ve never seen them!
https://preview.redd.it/w1dsop9vfa3c1.jpeg?width=1150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61d229ad0fc03c0dce7344e42eb4995456b34f58 Now deleted but here they are
LMAO this is far better than I could have ever imagined
the calvin harris beard tweets were WILD, that's a good one
The lyrics in The Very First Night and how all the lyrics purposefully rhyme except the ones that are supposed to rhyme with "her". There's no hetero explanation for that, I'm sorry.
As songwriter who has studied lyrical devices for years, I’m sorry to say that there is a hetsplanation for it 😭 I don’t pretend to know who the muse is about (even though I do feel it is about Dianna) but it doesn’t necessarily mean she was talking about a girl just because the last rhyme would fit better. Nowhere else in the song does she use 3rd person pronouns and ending the prechorus without a rhyme begs it to be resolved and so it makes the chorus land so much better and feel so much stronger (she could’ve easily gotten away with saying “ya” instead of a hard “you” to make it rhyme better but didn’t, making me think this was a very conscious writing tool). HOWEVER I can buy the idea that she wants people to think she was going to say “her” and was too afraid to put a song like that on Red and that’s why she released it 10 years later. Either way I would love to see any working tapes or demos of this song because I really wanna know what she was thinking there.
I’ve wondered about this before too. It made me wonder if the whole song is supposed to be using she/her instead of you. So like “I wish I could fly, I’d pick **her** up and and we’d go back in time, I’d write this in the sky, I miss **her** like it was the very first night.” If you do that for the whole song, then the rhyme scheme pronouns/perspective switch issue is resolved. I’m not saying that’s definitely what she intended, just positing it as another possibility!
I would buy the explanation that the missed rhyme was just a tool to put emphasis on the "you"/end of the chorus if the words that set up the rhyme didn't BOTH rhyme on "her". If it was only one time, or the same word twice, then sure. But two words that rhyme on "her" is intentional, or it's one hell of a coincidence and possibly sloppy writing. So I guess I believe that there is a hetsplanation, but it's not what I'd expect from the songwriting of Taylor Swift. I don't think "her" is the original lyrics; the "you" is supposed to be there. I think by setting up the rhyme on "her", but not going through with it, she breaks the fourth wall and tells the listener/reader that no one knows how much she misses "her" (a woman, the "you" in the song). The song has themes of secrecy (the whispering) and a wish to proclaim her feelings (to the muse and to the world) that she might not have not been able to at the time (the chorus), likely to do with the muse being a woman ("we broke the status quo"), which both the emphasis on "you" and the hidden "her" adds to.
Repeating rhyme schemes is common in pop music though, it makes the song catchier and easier to remember and when you want thousands of fans screaming your lyrics, you’ll want them to remember the words. And yeah, I already said I could see it being an intentional shift. She does break the fourth wall a lot, usually it’s a lot more intentional and the music changes along with the pronoun switch but like I said, it’s possible she was setting it up intentionally to flag. I just don’t think it’s the most hard hitting Gaylor evidence when you have lyrics like “I can still melt your world, argumentative antithetical dream girl” and “you could hear a hairpin drop”
I see. Do you have any examples of something similar to TVFN? I know tone is difficult online so I'll add that I'm asking genuinely, I'd like to know more. I still think a repeating rhyme scheme that includes a pronoun and then words that rhyme on another pronoun is clumsy if not intentional (especially in this particular case when she has had gay rumours for years at the time of release), but that could of course be the case. I guess my main point is that I think the hidden "her" adds to the song, and is great writing. But then again, I come from a poetry/fine art background rather than a songwriting background, so that influences my understanding of it.
Examples of her breaking the 4th wall or of her repeating rhyme schemes?
Examples of repeating rhyme schemes from either her or other artists!
Is it over now, wonderland, I know places, style, say don’t go, you belong with me, back to December all have pre choruses with the same rhyme scheme before the chorus! I’m sure there are more but those are just the ones I can think of rn lol
Thank you!
I disagree with this…both you and her work for the first two times. One is about her friends not knowing “they don’t know about the night in the hotel…didn’t read the words on the Polaroid picture they don’t know…” and one is about the world not knowing “no one knows about the words that we whispered no one knows…”. Both of those could use her or you and work fine. Only the last one is directly to the muse “you’re the one on the phone as I whisper” and this is a common pattern Taylor uses in songs where she does idk if perspective change is the right word but the last time she does a chorus she changes who it is to. She also says whisper differently in the last one where it actually would have rhymed with “yah” (but she said youuuu anyway)
Throughout the whole song, she’s addressing You, as if writing a letter. She’s telling the muse about how her friends can’t really console her because they don’t know about all the details in their relationship. She’s still talking *to* You in the pre-chorus because she includes We (they weren’t riding in the car when *we* both fell / no one knows the words *we* whispered). In the final pre-chorus after the bridge, the only thing that changes lyrically is that she’s no longer talking about her friends or other people, she’s talking about their past directly, and it makes it seem more personal and poignant. She does change perspective in songs a lot (most recently in Slut) but changing it for just one word to rhyme isnt going to make the most sense for the song. In slut, she makes a point to make that whole verse different as if she’s not even talking about the same person. There has to be a reason for pronoun/pov shifts in songs or else it’s just sloppy.
She does the perspective change sloppily plenty of times - particularly in her younger songs. We is not just the plural of first and second person. It is also the plural of first and third person. But right after the song came out and everyone was talking about the her/you she posted a tiktok with a picture of her younger drunk self and said “the truth is I miss her” which is obviously about herself but I thought also a nod to the interpretation of the song
Speaking of sloppy perspective in early work, Forever and Always is the most egregious example of that. Like, woof is that song confusing, especially in the chorus.
New Gaylor so I don’t know every theory but here are my favorites: -the jack antonoff clip for sure, that was hilarious -hits different lyrics: “bet I could still melt your world, argumentative, antithetical, dream girl.” That could be normal by itself but it’s the fact that only a couple lines earlier she says “Dreams of your hair and your stare and your sense of belief” -“call it what you want” video from miss Americana -when she was performing I Knew You Were Trouble and sang “She never loved me.” There is no way that sounded like anything but “she” for that one. -the time she sang “her midnights” instead of “your midnights.” For that one I’ve always thought though that it does sound like “your” if thats what you try to hear but it sounds more like “her” than “your.”
>the jack antonoff clip Link please sorry
[Here you go!](https://youtu.be/OjXf5QN6zm0?si=4ei6PXuu7EYtizeR)
Thanks!
Omg the clip... Aaron looks so uncomfortable. Its obvious taylor had some liquid courage because she doesn't even look like she's buying what she's saying
I kinda really wanna know how you can explain the hits different line away? I’ve heard people say she’s referring to herself, but what is so argumentative and antithetical about Taylor Swift lol
eh i'm fully a gaylor and have been for like a decade, and i do read that line as being self-referential! she talks a lot about arguing on lover (went off like a siren just crying) and in midnight rain she positions herself as antithetical (he was sunshine i was midnight rain). based on lots of other song lyric snippets (and i mean all of anti-hero lol), i think taylor views herself as a pretty difficult and temperamental person, at least at times.
kinda weird if she referred to herself as a "dream girl"
i don't think so! if you're someone's partner i really don't think it's a stretch to call yourself (especially cheekily) your "dream girl". to me it seemed like she was saying it facetiously anyway. obviously being argumentative and antithetical aren't typical traits of a dream girl, so she's kind of dragging herself by calling herself that sarcastically lmao. that's my preferred read anyway
Not really. I think Hits Different is "satirical" in the way Blank Space is in some points (Hits Different is her playing up her own "hysteria" and kinda mocking herself post breakup, while Blank Space is about media's perception of her and yadaya). She isn't this perfect "dream girl" who saves her partner from whatever issues, no one is, but I think in this post-breakup hysteria (I always think of the BS video with the mascara and the knife in hand) she's kinda spitting back all the things they thought of her and saying that even though they left because she wasn't those things, she still has the power to melt their world. That's always how I interpreted it, anyways.
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