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There's this thing called the Roche limit, which is the minimum distance between two celestial bodies required for them *not* to pull each other apart.
If you calculate that for the moon and do a bit of trigonometry, its apparent size viewed from the surface of the earth would be about the same as the height of an average computer monitor at a comfortable viewing distance.
So if a bunch of planets were that close to each other relative to their sizes, let's just say they wouldn't be round anymore.
No, it's the other way round, because the gravity of the planets works against each other.
(Even if in truth, given their proximity, the planets should all come together to form one big mess.)
true, though there would be subtle differences in net gravitation direction and intensity. so it would feel even worse/disorienting than, the zero-g environments most astronauts are subject to.
The tidal forces on a human body would not be large enough to be noticeable. At most there'd just be maybe a little more discomfort or muscle stress than zero-g
Which was the point. The body doesn't like extended exposer to such things. You wouldn't notice anything at first; but, eventually you'd likely start feeling symptoms, more so that you would in zero g.
That, or whatever's holding the planets together won't apply to you.
And will cause there to be a small region of zero g, surrounded by intense gravitational pull in each direction
Why intense gravitational pull? It gets weaker by distance squared. Mild gravitational pull unless those are massive high mass planets like jupiter and even then since the forces cancel each other out continuously the resulting gravitational force would slowly increase, not abruptly.
They would cancel each other completely in the center of the system reaching 0g but would continue to do so everywhere else too, just not to 0.
And even jupiter having 318 times more mass than earth has just 2,5g.
I think so. Was the first number google gave me and i haven't looked into it further. It has a much lower density than earth and is massive in size. That probably explains the "low" gravitation on surface despite the mass.
Yeah, but that's mostly because Jupiter is 90% gas.
Its gravity isn't *that* much on the surface, but that's like the equivalent of Earth's upper atmosphere.
Go towards the core, and the pressure and gravity should be enough to fold a few moons in half
First of all, could see what looks like a bunch of gas giants in the video.
Also dunno if it's the camera angle, but it kinda looks like the traveler is barely a few meters away from them so it should be pulling on them.
Also yeah, Jupiter and only twice the gravity as compared to earth, but there are like 6 gas giants in there, all super close to each other.
If this was irl, their gravity wouldn't be cancelling each other out. They'd be ripping through each other.
For some reason they aren't destroying each other, but if hypothetically speaking this weird protection didn't extend to the middle, all the planets should be pulling the traveler towards themselves.
Even from space, Earth pulls meteors towards it. If a person were to stand this close to a planet, they would be barreling through its atmosphere by now.
Put 5 more of such planets in close proximity, and you'd probably get pulled apart.
Probably. Not sure tho.
I haven't studied physics in a year, so I could be wrong. Most likely am.
But yeah. You could be right too. I just think it's less likely.
Think of it as pulling on a pillow with your friend.
At first it won't go anywhere because you're both applying equal force, but eventually it will rip.
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Tldr, I think being this close to 20 fucking gas giants should rip apart everything in the middle, the gas giants included.
The planets getting torn apart thing happens because of tidal forces being stronger than the celestial body's own gravitational pull. A planet is held together by gravitational pull. Objects and humans are not. They are held together by electromagnetic forces. The sun is constantly pulling on us too and our supermassive black hole in the center of our galaxy aswell yet nobody gets torn apart.
Gravitation is a very weak force. A small magnet can beat the gravitational force of the entire planet. I am not a physicist but getting torn apart by gravity sounds like something a black hole might do.
See about not getting torn apart by the sun is pretty simple.
It's too far from us.
Stand like next to it, and if you don't get burnt to a crisp in an instant you will get pulled towards the surface and crushed.
As for the other things.... I'm out of argument material. Let's wait for a physicist to pick up the topic lol. Don't wanna make any false arguments
I hate how I keep on seeing them going into a crash course with each other...although I sometimes forget how big the distances between celestial objects are
Reality is sometimes boring. Our Asteroid field in reality is not even close to scifi levels where you could hide in them. 1M km average distance between objects apparently.
And even hiding in saturns rings wouldn't work but for the opposite reason. objects are way too close to each other there.
I'm fine with space games like Elite, but this kind of reminds me of those cgi videos where you look up and there's planet closing in at an unatural speed about to crash on Earth.
Now that gives me an existential fear.
"A planet of awesome size, lit by no sun. An invisible titan, all thick, black forests and jagged mountains and deep, turbulent oceans." (Welcome to Night Vale)
If it helps you can think of them as big balls. They’re nowhere close to true planet size, they’re probably a few hundred ft max in diameter going by the camera angles. The mountain in mondstad is likely bigger.
I think it's a variant of thalassophobia. It doesn't freak me out but it definitely startles me a bit. First experienced it noclipping around older games and coming upon giant models either that were left in or were waiting for an animation to be triggered etc. Just zooming through the fog and suddenly seeing a giant motionless fantasy creature.
Its interesting that the sky being a fake barrier is implied to have been established to keep away stuff that keeps trying to invade teyvat.
An example would be the narwhal, the second descender and the traveller
Not necessarily. As long as most of the alphabets are used and a similar sounding name is conveyed
Example: Shara Ishvalda from MHIB's an anagram for Ishvara, which means God in hindi. As you can see, there are extra letters there but as long as the main word has been... anagramed, the filler words don't matter
Shara Ishvalda is a Hindu inspired monster, evident by his armor/weapon designs and their descriptions, even the way his wings representing the many hands Hindu gods traditionally have when he opens up so yeah. Pretty sure you don't need to be extra specific with the alphabets
I find it funny, in the Destiny Universe there is a group called the Nine and it's basically the sentient consciousness of the planets of our solar system.
Ironically, IX is possibly in Genshin as an author, Mr. Nine, who writes the Fischl stories. The events of Legend of the Shattered Halberd mimic Acheron's trailer really closely, and we've had it since 1.0.
How canon the lore from jazznight is is up for debate. Considering it was on hoyofair, I'd argue it's not canon at all. But, I wouldn't say it's unlikely that the two may connect in some way eventually
well, there is a theory saying that the scene of the twins being blocked by the sustainer could be them waiting for someone to pick them up, since the twins is stated as shooting stars, and the astral express also looks like a shooting star when traveling, it could be that Akvili would actually be one of the twins or one of their kind, i believe the channel i saw that was IslandXD, i\`m not entirely sure, i mean, i do believe both games could end up doing a crossover, but i don\`t think it would be like that, maybe traveling between dimensions kinda like how Otto did... idk, but it would be cool as fuck to have both games doing a crossover XD
Looks like a tear in the "the sky is fake" & we are seeing other reality/universe.
And from the looks of it someone in the circle of witches has broken through.
This looks amazing but I'm really interested how we can see literal outer space from that single room in the library. As the Spiral abyss goes deeper, we eventually go so deep, until we see the moon... Not something you'd see when you go straight down unless the world is a firmament. But here, we see outer space?? And it has a tear??? Did we go even deeper, or the opposite?? What in the Hexenzirkel...
probably the witches created a special domain where celestia cannot intervene, this allows them to see beyond the dome of teyvat, honestly these witches seem more interesting than the sovereign dragons, their achievements alone go far beyond just controlling a large mass of elemental energy from teyvat, they study reality itself
The existence, or at least the knowledge of the existence of other planets in Genshin sounds very interesting, considering the only celestial bodies we see are the sun and the moon, and the sky being fake and all that. Have we ever seen other planets being shown in Genshin?
Can't wait for massive lore bombs.
Honestly, seeing planets from our own solar system in Genshin is really freaking me out. So.... Teyvat is on earth? Wtf??
What if the game starts to go even more meta, implying that us, in real life, are part of, like, the hundredth cycle of Samsara?
This looks really cool, but judging by the way things are rendered, I think this might be an out of bounds space that we're not really supposed to go. Kinda like how everyone freaked out over the Unknown God cubes appearing in the Irminsul domain back in the 3.0 beta, but in the actual game we never even get close enough to see them. I hope we get at least some cool space lore... it would be nice to know about things that exist outside of Teyvat.
maybe this will finally break the idiotic theory that teyvat is a flat planet, other than that these planets look too much like those in the human solar system, like there is Jupiter, Saturn, a blue planet with a moon in its orbit
To be fair, for those who live in teyvat it is difficult to believe that the sky, the stars, the moon and the sun are all just a fake dome made by celestia, now for the players shouldn't have this doubt
It's stupid because seeing the configurations already shown by Mihoyo and its previous games, it's impossible for Teyvat to be a flat world, that's not how the planets in the imaginary tree exist, just bubbles universes enter this condition1 and they only exist in the quantum sea
>that's not how the planets in the imaginary tree exist
Doesn't the imaginary tree contain universes and such? Not "round planets"?
Tbh I'm not completely understanding what you're saying. But still, I don't think we should pay too much attention to HI3, because even if they are connected bc of the Imaginary Tree, they are still their own worlds with their own rules and laws. As is HSR.
Edit: Also don't forget that the book 'before sun and moon' said that the Primordial One literally remade the whole planet. Even if it was a globe originally, who knows what it looks like now. It even has a "false sky", and that's not natural.
I think I kinda understand what the OP is trying to explain.
HSR story is happening across parallel worlds and universes on the Imaginary Tree, and most of the planets we see there are round. The Imaginary Tree operates on the basis of branching timelines. So, if the starting point of the Tree is the Big Bang and the birth of stars, then regardless of how much the timeline branches, all the stars in parallel worlds and parallel universes should technically look similar to each other, as they are round planets.
However, this assumption is also flawed in some way. While it's true that all the planets we have in real life appear to be round, we shouldn’t apply this irl logic to the Honkai series. As I said before, HSR is a story that takes place across parallel worlds and parallel universes on the Imaginary Tree and we literally have Penacony, which is an artificial flat planet in there lol. You even have Muldrasil, which just flat out looks like a tree.
So, there is always an exception to the rule.
>HSR story is happening across parallel worlds and universes on the Imaginary Tree, and most of the planets we see there are round.
They are also naturally formed planets, right? At least planets like Jarilo are. So it makes sense that they're round.
But the planet Teyvat is located on... It might have been a naturally formed planet back when the Sovereigns ruled it, but then the Primordial One arrived who, iff we can believe 'before sun and moon' in a somewhat literal sense, did this:
>\[...\] When the eternal throne of the heavens came, the world was made anew. \[...\]
> But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world." \[...\]
>The Primordial One, the great sovereign, began the creation of heaven and earth for "our" sake — that of its creations which it cherished most, who would soon appear upon this earth. \[...\]
>The mountains and rivers were made, and the seas and oceans accepted those who rebelled and those who would not kneel. The Primordial One and one of its shades created the birds of the air, the beasts of the earth, and the fish of the sea. Together, they also created flowers, grass, and trees, before finally creating humans — our ancestors, numerous as the stars in the sky, uncountable as the sand on the shore. \[...\]
According to that book, they literally remade the original planet of the Sovereigns into something that, as far as we know, has a "false sky".
So even if the universes within the Imaginary Tree don't have drastically different laws of nature and physics... Even if Teyvat's planet was originally a globe, that doesn't mean it still is after all that has been done to it.
Perhaps instead of comparing it to a planet like Jarilo, we should compare to the Xianzhou Luofu. But instead of being a mechanical "planet" (space ship), it's one made of rock and nature.
That's what I meant when talking about Genshin and HSR having its own laws. Even if planets are naturally round, in both games there exist beings and powers that can make some "impossible" things, like, perhaps, flat planets.
I'm not claiming Teyvat is flat though. I'm just saying that the possibility is there. There are some crazy theories out there about the true nature of Genshin's world, like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/ldlz9j/teyvat_celestiacentric_theory/) or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/11qj2fa/speculative_map_of_teyvat/).
As far as we know in this game, anything could be possible.
>However, this assumption is also flawed in some way. While it's true that all the planets we have in real life appear to be round, we shouldn’t apply this irl logic to the Honkai series. As I said before, HSR is a story that takes place across parallel worlds and parallel universes on the Imaginary Tree and we literally have Penacony, which for lack of a better word, is an artificial flat planet in there too lol. You even have Muldrasil, which just flat out looks like a tree.
I agree. If we judge the Imaginary Tree by looking at HSR's worlds, literally anything is possible.
> The Imaginary Tree operates on the basis of branching timelines. So, if the starting point of the Tree is the Big Bang and the birth of stars, then regardless of how much the timeline branches, all the stars in parallel worlds and parallel universes should technically look similar to each other, as they are round planets.
That's also true. If that was what OP meant, I can understand their point.
But it seems they also forgot that Teyvat isn't a natural planet, but an (assumedly) natural planet warped into something else entirely by the Primordial One and the Heavenly Principles.
There is a possibility that teyvat is in the sea of quanta and in the sea there is complete planets and anomalies like mars that is a bubble with just some kilometers of diameter and a border.
Teyvat can be in the sea because it is in a dome (bubble if you extrapolate), Irminsul is upside down, abyss share similarities with the decay in the Sea, etc...
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tbh there's none, if you think there's a "possibility" sadly you've been consumed by all the conspiracies and misinformation spreaded on the internet lmaoo
first the fear of deep sea with Remuria and now fear of space with the theater, Mihoyo has certainly surpassed themselves
and they said they didn't want to cause anxiety huh? Well I'm here with goosebumps down to the tips of my toes
I'd say not really. It's just to emphasize divinity, a gender-neutral pronoun for a divine being. Some languages already have a word like this, but in English the closest you can get is just the gender-neutral part. However, there is precedent for all caps when referring to a divine being in English and many other latin-script languages, so the change does make sense.
Why cant they just leak entire gameplays?!? Like we ve got enough crumbs time to move on and post what really matters: a complete showcase of the new mode with actual fights.
It's nothing like SU like the person is saying... you pick your team and buffs in SU. You pick neither in this event. You just get random characters and play them. Each character has two charges. There was an event for this, I just don't remember the name
It's called Triumphant Frenzy. Just look up that event.
oh nooo my explanation was completely nullified because the way to choose the team is different 🥺🥺🥺
Firstly, you can choose your team but with restrictions
And you can choose cards with buffs, before you act like a smart ahh, at least try to understand what you're talking about
The only difference if you can use some of your own characters and you get additional buffs.
Just cuz you get buffs doesn't make the theater anything like SU. You are going to be very disappointed if you go in thinking that.
It's inspired by that event, but it's almost nothing alike except the charges. Overall the SU comparison is correct, as you use your own characters (with the exception of 1 out of 6 (I think) trial character the game gives you in case you haven't build enough chaarcetsr of the allowed elements.
You can also take 1 character from a friend that meets the criteria. There are a few characters that are alloed that don't meet the criteria, but you have to own them yourself to use them.
Each character can only be used twice, so you actually need to build or have already built characters.
You can get many unique cards, which are invitations (to bring another character in the mode - must be preselected before entering the mode), encounters (lore info/bombs), buffs and debuffs.
Essentially it's the SU, but with some minor adjustments to fit into Genshin.
this mode is literally the Simulated Universe of Star rail but with the action combat of Genshin
you choose cards, situations, events and choose extra characters to help you
The debuffs are like the debuffs from old events, there are also linked enemies that recover life and receive buffs like in reputation quests, earthquakes from the abyss, Tatarasuna thunder, etc
What does star rail have to do with it? If i wanted su i would go play it. Im talking about this new mode because the leaks for this version are so little and i dont get why leakers don’t share gameplay like they used to, instead they just post little snippets of the scenery lol
That's what I've been trying to explain this whole time, it's a SU with Genshin's action combat
normal enemies are random like in Star rail
you choose cards with buffs just like in Star rail
some things give you debuffs or make fights more difficult in exchange for better rewards like in Star rail
and the final bosses are always the same and with their buffs and debuffs set in stone like in Star rail
leakers are leaking scenarios because unlike Star rail, Genshin scenarios matter because they are part of the gameplay or contain lore
Well exactly? Thats what i think too i wanna see it in action rather than imagining it being the same as hsr. Also im not saying scenery leaks are bad just want to see gameplay too like they what they re used to leak.
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Something about seeing other planets that close freaks me out
There's this thing called the Roche limit, which is the minimum distance between two celestial bodies required for them *not* to pull each other apart. If you calculate that for the moon and do a bit of trigonometry, its apparent size viewed from the surface of the earth would be about the same as the height of an average computer monitor at a comfortable viewing distance. So if a bunch of planets were that close to each other relative to their sizes, let's just say they wouldn't be round anymore.
And it would look cool af, imagine having planets on the sky ripping each other apart, scary, yes, but damn
Right? The gravity in the middle must be insane
No, it's the other way round, because the gravity of the planets works against each other. (Even if in truth, given their proximity, the planets should all come together to form one big mess.)
true, though there would be subtle differences in net gravitation direction and intensity. so it would feel even worse/disorienting than, the zero-g environments most astronauts are subject to.
The tidal forces on a human body would not be large enough to be noticeable. At most there'd just be maybe a little more discomfort or muscle stress than zero-g
Which was the point. The body doesn't like extended exposer to such things. You wouldn't notice anything at first; but, eventually you'd likely start feeling symptoms, more so that you would in zero g.
That, or whatever's holding the planets together won't apply to you. And will cause there to be a small region of zero g, surrounded by intense gravitational pull in each direction
Why intense gravitational pull? It gets weaker by distance squared. Mild gravitational pull unless those are massive high mass planets like jupiter and even then since the forces cancel each other out continuously the resulting gravitational force would slowly increase, not abruptly. They would cancel each other completely in the center of the system reaching 0g but would continue to do so everywhere else too, just not to 0. And even jupiter having 318 times more mass than earth has just 2,5g.
Is that 2,5g at its „surface“?
I think so. Was the first number google gave me and i haven't looked into it further. It has a much lower density than earth and is massive in size. That probably explains the "low" gravitation on surface despite the mass.
Yeah, but that's mostly because Jupiter is 90% gas. Its gravity isn't *that* much on the surface, but that's like the equivalent of Earth's upper atmosphere. Go towards the core, and the pressure and gravity should be enough to fold a few moons in half
Pressure != gravity. Gravity decreases after a point because you would have more mass behind you pulling in the other direction and less in front.
I- Fair enough. You got me there
First of all, could see what looks like a bunch of gas giants in the video. Also dunno if it's the camera angle, but it kinda looks like the traveler is barely a few meters away from them so it should be pulling on them. Also yeah, Jupiter and only twice the gravity as compared to earth, but there are like 6 gas giants in there, all super close to each other. If this was irl, their gravity wouldn't be cancelling each other out. They'd be ripping through each other. For some reason they aren't destroying each other, but if hypothetically speaking this weird protection didn't extend to the middle, all the planets should be pulling the traveler towards themselves. Even from space, Earth pulls meteors towards it. If a person were to stand this close to a planet, they would be barreling through its atmosphere by now. Put 5 more of such planets in close proximity, and you'd probably get pulled apart. Probably. Not sure tho. I haven't studied physics in a year, so I could be wrong. Most likely am. But yeah. You could be right too. I just think it's less likely. Think of it as pulling on a pillow with your friend. At first it won't go anywhere because you're both applying equal force, but eventually it will rip. --- Tldr, I think being this close to 20 fucking gas giants should rip apart everything in the middle, the gas giants included.
The planets getting torn apart thing happens because of tidal forces being stronger than the celestial body's own gravitational pull. A planet is held together by gravitational pull. Objects and humans are not. They are held together by electromagnetic forces. The sun is constantly pulling on us too and our supermassive black hole in the center of our galaxy aswell yet nobody gets torn apart. Gravitation is a very weak force. A small magnet can beat the gravitational force of the entire planet. I am not a physicist but getting torn apart by gravity sounds like something a black hole might do.
See about not getting torn apart by the sun is pretty simple. It's too far from us. Stand like next to it, and if you don't get burnt to a crisp in an instant you will get pulled towards the surface and crushed. As for the other things.... I'm out of argument material. Let's wait for a physicist to pick up the topic lol. Don't wanna make any false arguments
agreed, the moon in floors 9-11 of the abyss is bad enough but this... is on another level. i literally shuddered seeing this video
I hate how I keep on seeing them going into a crash course with each other...although I sometimes forget how big the distances between celestial objects are
Reality is sometimes boring. Our Asteroid field in reality is not even close to scifi levels where you could hide in them. 1M km average distance between objects apparently. And even hiding in saturns rings wouldn't work but for the opposite reason. objects are way too close to each other there.
Yeah and so we can do this on games where they're super close! I kind of like it but it also makes me paranoid
Same, this is the reason why I can't play space games lol.
I'm fine with space games like Elite, but this kind of reminds me of those cgi videos where you look up and there's planet closing in at an unatural speed about to crash on Earth. Now that gives me an existential fear.
Watch Moonfall. 😇
"A planet of awesome size, lit by no sun. An invisible titan, all thick, black forests and jagged mountains and deep, turbulent oceans." (Welcome to Night Vale)
If it helps you can think of them as big balls. They’re nowhere close to true planet size, they’re probably a few hundred ft max in diameter going by the camera angles. The mountain in mondstad is likely bigger.
I think it's a variant of thalassophobia. It doesn't freak me out but it definitely startles me a bit. First experienced it noclipping around older games and coming upon giant models either that were left in or were waiting for an animation to be triggered etc. Just zooming through the fog and suddenly seeing a giant motionless fantasy creature.
Ayo , wtf , Teyvat sky is fake
Always has been 🔫
The way the stars are different in the desert, Fontaine and Chenyu compared to the rest of the nations
Watch it not be anything special and just hoyo updating the skybox in those regions and forgetting the other 3 lol
What i thought too, but you know hoyo… there has got to be a reason there just gotta!!!
Yes there is a reason, it will be revealed in like 2-3 years tops trust
Real
Its interesting that the sky being a fake barrier is implied to have been established to keep away stuff that keeps trying to invade teyvat. An example would be the narwhal, the second descender and the traveller
Flat Teyvaters don't want you to see this
Leakers didn't lie when they said it's gonna be beautiful
Ikr
Oh wow so Liben was somewhat right. >Liben: A few days ago, I accidentally fell into a hole and spent the whole night staring at the stars.
Of course Liben was right, he's always hinted at future stuff. This time it just seemed much more vague than what we're used to
14 year old childe: first time? he also found a mommy in there
Well, his name IS an anagram for Nibelung Makes you wonder why he always makes it out alive from so many dangerous situations and knows alot of things
Wouldn’t an anagram need to use all the letters of another word to be considered an anagram?
Not necessarily. As long as most of the alphabets are used and a similar sounding name is conveyed Example: Shara Ishvalda from MHIB's an anagram for Ishvara, which means God in hindi. As you can see, there are extra letters there but as long as the main word has been... anagramed, the filler words don't matter Shara Ishvalda is a Hindu inspired monster, evident by his armor/weapon designs and their descriptions, even the way his wings representing the many hands Hindu gods traditionally have when he opens up so yeah. Pretty sure you don't need to be extra specific with the alphabets
Nibel---ung......Liben...GUN???
Space Impact, lmao It looks so beautiful and mysterious!
thats just star rail if not turn based
Actually looks beautiful and the lore heads can eat more
FINALLY THEY BROKE THE DAMN SKY
Inb4 all those are planets we will explore after the Teyvat chapter is over
Genshin Star Rail
Nah, you skipped a step: Genshin Space Program 🚀
A hoyo sci fi game with a focus on open world exploration would go so hard
That’s what I thought Star Rail was going to be at first. A missed opportunity 😔
Hoyo would give Bethesda a run for their money
it already did lol bethesda is not even 10% of hoyo gains, RIP beth
When you can jump
With Mihoyo, there's no such thing as not being a lore about something
who let IX out again
I find it funny, in the Destiny Universe there is a group called the Nine and it's basically the sentient consciousness of the planets of our solar system.
Imagine one of the Ringwraiths' name was just Uranus.
i thought this was a destiny reference
Acheron slipped and her blade fell out of her sheathe, oopsies
This was my first thought LMAO
IX Searching for another mommy nihility and XI detected Lisa as Potential Emanator
Ironically, IX is possibly in Genshin as an author, Mr. Nine, who writes the Fischl stories. The events of Legend of the Shattered Halberd mimic Acheron's trailer really closely, and we've had it since 1.0.
Saturn and Jupiter in Genshin confirmed?
The sizes are disproportional, but that does remind me of a theory that Teyvat is actually a place on Earth lol
Pompom: the train is about to make the jump! Astral express: *arrives in Teyvat
Asmoday:Phanes get back here i cant handle this shit anymore
Reminds me of the leak saying Teyvat would be a place HSR would end up lmao
Apparently, Teyvat (or Tavyet) is an actual planet in Star Rail.
How canon the lore from jazznight is is up for debate. Considering it was on hoyofair, I'd argue it's not canon at all. But, I wouldn't say it's unlikely that the two may connect in some way eventually
Honestly, it's possible. In Honkai impact manga,Otto did find Teyvat so the trio games gonna collab with each other
That'd be cool ngl
well, there is a theory saying that the scene of the twins being blocked by the sustainer could be them waiting for someone to pick them up, since the twins is stated as shooting stars, and the astral express also looks like a shooting star when traveling, it could be that Akvili would actually be one of the twins or one of their kind, i believe the channel i saw that was IslandXD, i\`m not entirely sure, i mean, i do believe both games could end up doing a crossover, but i don\`t think it would be like that, maybe traveling between dimensions kinda like how Otto did... idk, but it would be cool as fuck to have both games doing a crossover XD
This is beautiful wtf they really did allow us to explore domains now lol
Looks like a tear in the "the sky is fake" & we are seeing other reality/universe. And from the looks of it someone in the circle of witches has broken through.
This looks amazing but I'm really interested how we can see literal outer space from that single room in the library. As the Spiral abyss goes deeper, we eventually go so deep, until we see the moon... Not something you'd see when you go straight down unless the world is a firmament. But here, we see outer space?? And it has a tear??? Did we go even deeper, or the opposite?? What in the Hexenzirkel...
probably the witches created a special domain where celestia cannot intervene, this allows them to see beyond the dome of teyvat, honestly these witches seem more interesting than the sovereign dragons, their achievements alone go far beyond just controlling a large mass of elemental energy from teyvat, they study reality itself
upside down teyvat and sky is fake theory stocks are rising
wtf planets are weird to see in genshin
Not only planets, but OUR SOLAR SYSTEM'S planets!!
bro what the actual fuck is this place yall dont understand how crazy this is
The lore gonna go crazy 🔥
Looks insaneee 😍😍 Genshin cooks this right
Bro I cant wait for the lore.
it's IX
Teyvat isn’t flat confirmed!
Oh we are getting lore LORE this patch huh im so excited
The existence, or at least the knowledge of the existence of other planets in Genshin sounds very interesting, considering the only celestial bodies we see are the sun and the moon, and the sky being fake and all that. Have we ever seen other planets being shown in Genshin? Can't wait for massive lore bombs.
We havent seen but the traveler roee mention them
I never think i would see planets like jupiter in genshin
Honestly, seeing planets from our own solar system in Genshin is really freaking me out. So.... Teyvat is on earth? Wtf?? What if the game starts to go even more meta, implying that us, in real life, are part of, like, the hundredth cycle of Samsara?
And then, in the final cutscene, we will see clips from real life, End of Evangelion style
We take off Sucrose's glasses and then walk into the sunset holding her hand
Lore accurate travelers before coming to teyvat
Welcome to teyvatX. Take you to the moon
Had to check if I was in the HSR leaks sub lol. But can’t wait for what the loreheads can unearth from all this!
better space skybox than HSR, ahah
That's not an impressive feat. HSR skyboxes are often just very low res JPEGs, lol.
oh yeah that's for sure. Kinda sad they don't put a bit more efforts in HSR skybox though
If we got Genshin quality world graphics for HSR that'd be insane.
Theatre Hubble Telescope
Finally HSR collab
And now years later Teyvat will be discovered by the ipc as an ancients planets lost to time and be call Tavyet for some reason cause of language
the sky is fake as fuck
no way we got planets in genshin
ahh.. 30 gb update :)
Thank you miss Herta for sponsoring this new mode.
WHY ARE THEY COOKING WITH THE BACKGROUND
Wtf is going on
existence is meaningless
"I'm gonna send him to [outer space](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMlqy9Nd8P4) / To find another race"
Aaayyooooo who put the abyss in my thing
This looks really cool, but judging by the way things are rendered, I think this might be an out of bounds space that we're not really supposed to go. Kinda like how everyone freaked out over the Unknown God cubes appearing in the Irminsul domain back in the 3.0 beta, but in the actual game we never even get close enough to see them. I hope we get at least some cool space lore... it would be nice to know about things that exist outside of Teyvat.
First showcase in loading screen now this? What are leakers trying to tell us?
seeing planets up close always freaks me out
Well, while we are stuck in space, might as well call my nephew to get ne with his train buddies.
maybe this will finally break the idiotic theory that teyvat is a flat planet, other than that these planets look too much like those in the human solar system, like there is Jupiter, Saturn, a blue planet with a moon in its orbit
Kinda hilarious how there’s flat earthers in Teyvat technically LMao
The round earthers are seen as the weirdos in teyvat lmao, there's one in sumeru and his fellow scholars made fun of him for it
To be fair, for those who live in teyvat it is difficult to believe that the sky, the stars, the moon and the sun are all just a fake dome made by celestia, now for the players shouldn't have this doubt
Genuinely asking, why is that theory idiotic? Irl it's idiotic of course, but Teyvat is a fantasy place with its own rules.
It's stupid because seeing the configurations already shown by Mihoyo and its previous games, it's impossible for Teyvat to be a flat world, that's not how the planets in the imaginary tree exist, just bubbles universes enter this condition1 and they only exist in the quantum sea
>that's not how the planets in the imaginary tree exist Doesn't the imaginary tree contain universes and such? Not "round planets"? Tbh I'm not completely understanding what you're saying. But still, I don't think we should pay too much attention to HI3, because even if they are connected bc of the Imaginary Tree, they are still their own worlds with their own rules and laws. As is HSR. Edit: Also don't forget that the book 'before sun and moon' said that the Primordial One literally remade the whole planet. Even if it was a globe originally, who knows what it looks like now. It even has a "false sky", and that's not natural.
I think I kinda understand what the OP is trying to explain. HSR story is happening across parallel worlds and universes on the Imaginary Tree, and most of the planets we see there are round. The Imaginary Tree operates on the basis of branching timelines. So, if the starting point of the Tree is the Big Bang and the birth of stars, then regardless of how much the timeline branches, all the stars in parallel worlds and parallel universes should technically look similar to each other, as they are round planets. However, this assumption is also flawed in some way. While it's true that all the planets we have in real life appear to be round, we shouldn’t apply this irl logic to the Honkai series. As I said before, HSR is a story that takes place across parallel worlds and parallel universes on the Imaginary Tree and we literally have Penacony, which is an artificial flat planet in there lol. You even have Muldrasil, which just flat out looks like a tree. So, there is always an exception to the rule.
>HSR story is happening across parallel worlds and universes on the Imaginary Tree, and most of the planets we see there are round. They are also naturally formed planets, right? At least planets like Jarilo are. So it makes sense that they're round. But the planet Teyvat is located on... It might have been a naturally formed planet back when the Sovereigns ruled it, but then the Primordial One arrived who, iff we can believe 'before sun and moon' in a somewhat literal sense, did this: >\[...\] When the eternal throne of the heavens came, the world was made anew. \[...\] > But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world." \[...\] >The Primordial One, the great sovereign, began the creation of heaven and earth for "our" sake — that of its creations which it cherished most, who would soon appear upon this earth. \[...\] >The mountains and rivers were made, and the seas and oceans accepted those who rebelled and those who would not kneel. The Primordial One and one of its shades created the birds of the air, the beasts of the earth, and the fish of the sea. Together, they also created flowers, grass, and trees, before finally creating humans — our ancestors, numerous as the stars in the sky, uncountable as the sand on the shore. \[...\] According to that book, they literally remade the original planet of the Sovereigns into something that, as far as we know, has a "false sky". So even if the universes within the Imaginary Tree don't have drastically different laws of nature and physics... Even if Teyvat's planet was originally a globe, that doesn't mean it still is after all that has been done to it. Perhaps instead of comparing it to a planet like Jarilo, we should compare to the Xianzhou Luofu. But instead of being a mechanical "planet" (space ship), it's one made of rock and nature. That's what I meant when talking about Genshin and HSR having its own laws. Even if planets are naturally round, in both games there exist beings and powers that can make some "impossible" things, like, perhaps, flat planets. I'm not claiming Teyvat is flat though. I'm just saying that the possibility is there. There are some crazy theories out there about the true nature of Genshin's world, like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/ldlz9j/teyvat_celestiacentric_theory/) or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/11qj2fa/speculative_map_of_teyvat/). As far as we know in this game, anything could be possible. >However, this assumption is also flawed in some way. While it's true that all the planets we have in real life appear to be round, we shouldn’t apply this irl logic to the Honkai series. As I said before, HSR is a story that takes place across parallel worlds and parallel universes on the Imaginary Tree and we literally have Penacony, which for lack of a better word, is an artificial flat planet in there too lol. You even have Muldrasil, which just flat out looks like a tree. I agree. If we judge the Imaginary Tree by looking at HSR's worlds, literally anything is possible. > The Imaginary Tree operates on the basis of branching timelines. So, if the starting point of the Tree is the Big Bang and the birth of stars, then regardless of how much the timeline branches, all the stars in parallel worlds and parallel universes should technically look similar to each other, as they are round planets. That's also true. If that was what OP meant, I can understand their point. But it seems they also forgot that Teyvat isn't a natural planet, but an (assumedly) natural planet warped into something else entirely by the Primordial One and the Heavenly Principles.
There is a possibility that teyvat is in the sea of quanta and in the sea there is complete planets and anomalies like mars that is a bubble with just some kilometers of diameter and a border. Teyvat can be in the sea because it is in a dome (bubble if you extrapolate), Irminsul is upside down, abyss share similarities with the decay in the Sea, etc...
How is it "the idiotic theory" when it's literally what everyone in-game except that one round-teyvater in Sumeru believes?
Oooo do WE get to fall through and see it like that, or is that just for Beaters? ;))))
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Collab when 🫡
Right? It'd fit the cosmology of both settings too
this is so scary bro what the hell is going on
2nd Phase Astrageldon in terraria calamity be like:
Are we actually going into The Traveler head next patch like we did with Kazhua, Fischel, Xinyan, and Mona?
Transport us to another dimension please.
Ayo can someone share a bit of context, what am I looking at??
That crack in the sky reminds me of finality
this shi so dead lately lmao
LORE TIME 👹👹👹
Omg what is that place?? An end-game content?
This reminds me of Xenoblade Chronicles and I just finished the game a few days ago
When you're observing teyvat's eye of universe
Part of me wants traveler to start falling at a curve as the fat planet sucks her into its elliptical orbit
If leakers can fly freely in Private server, can they go near celestia too? I really wanna see it up close
People have used bugs to get closer to Celestia, but it's coded in a way that makes it get smaller the closer you get lol
Damn they really be hiding Celestia in every way they could huh
Excuse me, I think you went to the wrong leaks subreddit. The HSR leak subreddit is this way sir.
Dawg this isn't hsr leaks right?
so far Star rail doesn't come close to Genshin in terms of world design
I didn't mean it in bad way either. I never seen stuff like planets when everyone is theorizing that teyvat is two semi spheres.
oh that's not a theory Teyvat really has a dome and there is a scholar in Sumeru who is made fun of because he believes that Teyvat is a globe
You wish HSR looked this beautiful
The rise of Star rail could never
lmao you wish hsr skybox looks this good, btw aren't you the same person that thinks genshin added endgame just because of wuwa?💀
I only said there's a possibility 😐
tbh there's none, if you think there's a "possibility" sadly you've been consumed by all the conspiracies and misinformation spreaded on the internet lmaoo
Acheron, save us 🥺
first the fear of deep sea with Remuria and now fear of space with the theater, Mihoyo has certainly surpassed themselves and they said they didn't want to cause anxiety huh? Well I'm here with goosebumps down to the tips of my toes
We are doing a hsr after teyvat chapter
IX going to teyvat finding akivili
IX called, THEY want THEIR planets back.\*
>THEY want THEIR planets back. FIFY
Does it matter to capitalize them all? 😭 Fine, also edited. .-.
>!I just find it funny, but ig hoyo cares about it since they uppercased old lines & everything!<
I'd say not really. It's just to emphasize divinity, a gender-neutral pronoun for a divine being. Some languages already have a word like this, but in English the closest you can get is just the gender-neutral part. However, there is precedent for all caps when referring to a divine being in English and many other latin-script languages, so the change does make sense.
Brb time to go find Welt
what the hell did you do Xipe?
What if teyvat is the prequel of all honkai verse. This is where all began. Imaginary tree from irmensul and honkai from abyss
Why cant they just leak entire gameplays?!? Like we ve got enough crumbs time to move on and post what really matters: a complete showcase of the new mode with actual fights.
Look up a SU gameplay, thats it
SU? Isn’t this about the new genshin mode?
It's nothing like SU like the person is saying... you pick your team and buffs in SU. You pick neither in this event. You just get random characters and play them. Each character has two charges. There was an event for this, I just don't remember the name It's called Triumphant Frenzy. Just look up that event.
oh nooo my explanation was completely nullified because the way to choose the team is different 🥺🥺🥺 Firstly, you can choose your team but with restrictions And you can choose cards with buffs, before you act like a smart ahh, at least try to understand what you're talking about
The only difference if you can use some of your own characters and you get additional buffs. Just cuz you get buffs doesn't make the theater anything like SU. You are going to be very disappointed if you go in thinking that.
It's inspired by that event, but it's almost nothing alike except the charges. Overall the SU comparison is correct, as you use your own characters (with the exception of 1 out of 6 (I think) trial character the game gives you in case you haven't build enough chaarcetsr of the allowed elements. You can also take 1 character from a friend that meets the criteria. There are a few characters that are alloed that don't meet the criteria, but you have to own them yourself to use them. Each character can only be used twice, so you actually need to build or have already built characters. You can get many unique cards, which are invitations (to bring another character in the mode - must be preselected before entering the mode), encounters (lore info/bombs), buffs and debuffs. Essentially it's the SU, but with some minor adjustments to fit into Genshin.
Nothing you said at all sounds like SU. It's the other event except you get your own characters at random times.
this mode is literally the Simulated Universe of Star rail but with the action combat of Genshin you choose cards, situations, events and choose extra characters to help you The debuffs are like the debuffs from old events, there are also linked enemies that recover life and receive buffs like in reputation quests, earthquakes from the abyss, Tatarasuna thunder, etc
What does star rail have to do with it? If i wanted su i would go play it. Im talking about this new mode because the leaks for this version are so little and i dont get why leakers don’t share gameplay like they used to, instead they just post little snippets of the scenery lol
That's what I've been trying to explain this whole time, it's a SU with Genshin's action combat normal enemies are random like in Star rail you choose cards with buffs just like in Star rail some things give you debuffs or make fights more difficult in exchange for better rewards like in Star rail and the final bosses are always the same and with their buffs and debuffs set in stone like in Star rail leakers are leaking scenarios because unlike Star rail, Genshin scenarios matter because they are part of the gameplay or contain lore
Well exactly? Thats what i think too i wanna see it in action rather than imagining it being the same as hsr. Also im not saying scenery leaks are bad just want to see gameplay too like they what they re used to leak.
The idea is the same but visually they're nothing alike
genshin star rail confirmed
IX ?
Wait what happened to excessive anxiety?