Honestly, fontaine as a whole is kinda messed up justice-wise.
From when we arrived, we've seen ourselves nearly imprisoned for an extremely specific bylaw, we've seen both lyney and childe falsely accused, one of whom was sent to prison 'despite' being exonerated. Weve found out that an innocent man can be killed by the state for adamantly refusing to stand trial, we've found out that the prison system is simply just a messed up caste system that pretends to be a fair system where anyone can work their way back up, but is actively abused to target people that the "Duke" feels doesn't deserve that, while uplifting those the Duke likes.
Its telling that this is a chinese game, as there are so many issues and discrepancies with the law of fontaine, that the only recourse for the writers is to have all the power concentrated in specific people who the writers can say "oh, they'll handle it if things go wrong" instead of noting how "Laws can be wrong, and people need to constantly make them better, Not just blindly follow them"
And this isn't even a dig at china or anything. Just how censorship can make certain topics hard to touch when your bottom line depends on not being censored. Liyue is based on china and has a much better grasp of justice, because you always feel like even if things are or aren't 100 percent against the law, the leaders of Liyue would still make sure that the Social Contract isn't being violated. But when the topic is specifically "Laws and Justice" things like "An enforcer of the law realizing that the law is wrong and trying to make sure justice happens anyway" is the kind of thing that genshin's many competitors in the gacha sphere would happily spin for points, so even if the law is used negatively, it has to be respected by the characters. And the enforcers have to always be right to enforce it.
Gimme a Yanfei or Ningguang story about people trying to weasel their way in and out of legality and how to handle them, rather than a fontaine story that boils down to "But the law is the law"
Hell even Wriothsley isn't *that* good at keeping control of Meropide. Some random smuck with a power complex put the entire prison on lockdown complete with mech gardes *just* to ensure that one little girl *born* inside the prison doesn't escape.
I had a similar response to the Fountaine stories, particularly the archon quests and anything associated with the Fortress of Meropide. The settings for the stories and the initial setup for the plots felt so promising, but by the end, it felt like the writers backed away out of fear of offending people in the positions of authority as well as players in general.
Ultimately, even though Fountaine obviously wasn't based on China, it still seemed like they couldn't be critical of institutions, like the justice system and the penal system. In the case of the latter, it was a complete mess in how they presented the Fortress of Meropide. They could not convey that life in prison is brutal and that the reality of prison life is the loss of all freedoms.
Looking ahead to Natlan, I think the writers will have considerably more freedom in how they approach similar themes. Like Sumeru (where I think they did a far better job), there will be a stronger fantasy element to Natlan in its settings, including the social-economic systems of its inhabitants. There will be less risk of making commentary that exposes the company to unwanted attention.
I always figured that was the point. Each nation is supposed to embody an ideal, but the story usually ends up showing us how they’ve misinterpreted or abused it. Fontaine’s justice system is messed up, Sumeru’s scholars lack wisdom and start causing LOTS of trouble, and Inazuma’s notion of eternity prevented any cultural progress. Liyue isn’t so bad, but the story did center around someone wanting out of a contract. Mondstadt could still hold a twist; Venti’s got secrets.
If you think about it logically, without even getting into any specifics, from the get go Fontaine is a supremely fucked up police state were all legal matters are decided by a machine no one really understands (and later a singular God Emperor with ultimate authority), were there is absolutely no protection for almost any of the universally accepted rights in modern society, and with no regards for any procedural standards whatsoever. And then all of the investigation, procedure and trial being over at joke-speeds.
The only thing duct-taping this whole operation together is suspension of disbelief based on the general feel that the Neuvilette is *good* and thus their choices will be *correct* (which is factually not true).
I would say there are some very clear differences between what the story takes seriously and what it doesnt and that points to what we should be focusing on analyzing. For example, a ton of people point out how Furina was gonna throw the Traveler in jail for a super specific law but lets be honest, she has no actual power in doing that and Neuvillette isnt that dumb to allow that to happen which is why it was played off as a joke.
The people around them were more so admiring her public spectacle rather than a genuine arrest which is why she panicked when we challenged her because that wasnt really what was “in the script”. At worst, we wouldve just been delayed in going to Fontaine so the entire scenario was played off rather lighthearted enough that nothing wouldve really happened. The crime scene, she had plenty of evidence for Lyney being the murder. It just happened we found more evidence proving otherwise and the trial was taken formally.
Also, Navia’s father didnt “refuse to stand trial”, he had a choice. The choice is not take the trial and face Clorinde *or* stand trial. Once one is picked, the other cannot be acted upon. Considering it’s a duel to the death and Clorinde is still alive, we can safely say the duel is a 100% death rate. Now the issue here is that this included political movements that Navia wasnt even aware of and standing trial is generally much more fair than our current modern justice system at least.
Navia comes to the conclusion that if he had stood trial, he likely wouldve won but because that placed Navia in danger, he didnt and chose to hand over his position as the Leader to Navia to protect her which is something only the people onvolved at the moment of the murder wouldve been aware of. In the end, this was an elaborate plan to expose him once Navia was old enough to take him into trial herself and the arc resolves there. Its not like Neuvillette is a lie detector but it’s also not like he makes unfair or partial judgements either. At least in canon so far.
The duel isn't a 100% death rate, it was explained that Navia's father chose to die rather than yield, and Clorinde's lore does talk about how people cheat against her in duels only to lose and end up getting additional charges of "contempt of court", a charge that seems superficial if they really were dead after each duel.
Iirc the duel is to the death and Navia’s father accepted his defeat without question or resistance. Basically, it was a glorified execution rather than a real duel. But I havent read Clorinde’s lore so Im mostly blind on that.
Fron Fontaine Act 2:
Navia: But since he entrusted his will to you, Clorinde, you should tell us the truth about his sacrifice.
Furina: Erm... So... During the duel, did you believe that Callas was intending to die?
Clorinde: Yes, I did.
Clorinde: As a Champion Duelist, I've fought many battles, and taken a countless number of dishonored lives.
Clorinde: In my line of work, I've seen all kinds of people give their all for the faintest hope to continue living. Some were determined, others passionate, and some even manic and twisted.
Clorinde: Just one look and I can tell if a duelist is hoping to live, or if they're looking to die.
Clorinde: I hereby swear on my name and honor as a Champion Duelist that Mr. Callas never intended to leave the Ring alive.
Im aware of this scene but the additional lore on people being able to leave the duel alive was vague at the time and I havent played her story quest or own her at all so the additional info I was nor aware of it. This scene in the Archon quest doesnt contradict anything I was trying to say.
I can’t be assed to look up any of the actual dialogue, but from what I remember the AQ was always pretty straightforward about the fact you can yield the duel and that Callas only died because he was specifically choosing not to.
I was under the impression that the decision was actually between Callas taking the trial or taking the duel. I dont remember whether his duel was actually to the death but it’s only been implied that taking the duel usually means the suspect is guilty but wants a chance to escape and with Clorinde still alive, I just assumed it was a duel to the death without any leeway.
Again, I could be wrong but its then implied that Callas accepted his death in the duel because going to trial would endanger Navia and he didnt want that despite having clear evidence of what happened. The only one implied to have been able to stop the duel was Neuvillette because Navia called Callas “clearly innocent at the time” but with no evidence at the time for Neuvillette to see and Callas refusing to go to trial, it was a very morally grey area of whether he was innocent or guilt.y.
Are you morally justified because you are the law? Or are you the law because you are morally justified?
Laws are inherently human, in the sense that it reflects the creator’s intent at the time. But the law should be remembered to be a reflection, and not an unquestionable rule. That’s why we have legal professionals, or just people who know the law to argue for their interpretation.
Of note is that Meropide isn't really a prison but an allied micro-nation that criminals are exiled to. Wriothesley is a dictator who doesn't answer to Fontaine law. He derives his power from his own strength, influence. He is supported by some Fontainians because he is most likely to be the most stable and friendly leader for Fontaine to work with.
Which is why I'm still not satisfied that she couldn't finish the job despite hearing Chevreuse's reasons for it.
Like, the worst Veronique can get is a life behind bars. Chev could easily turn a blind eye for that.
But the funny thing is that both her and Morris are being thrown into Meropide *together*. And instead of giving Wrio a heads-up about one of the new inmates possibly trying to murder the other one, she instead gives him the "fuck this guy lol" kind of heads-up. Morris is not gonna last a week before getting prison shanked by Veronique, so Chevreuse might as well have sentenced him to death.
Exactly lol
There isn't really much of a difference if she just lets Veronique finish him off. I would be more ok with her decision if she's someone who doesn't use dirty tricks but earlier the event itself shows that she can use underhanded tactics to get info from Fleuve Cendre. Since she anticipated Veronique to bite her bait, she may as well make it so that she didn't see her coming, giving her plausible deniability.
Excuse me, Chevreuse is an officer of the **law** 😤 and will dutifully uphold the law as she should as she believes in due process.
But Meropide operates outside of Fontaine law so whatever happens there is not her problem, so...🔪
Veronique and her brother seek vengeance against a corrupt noble who murdered their mother.
Long ago, that noble had an affair with a maid, who was her mother. She ended up getting pregnant which scared him. He demanded her to abort the child, but she refused to do so and so she left in silence. However, years later she sent him a picture and a letter asking if he at the very least wanted to see his children.
That noble in turn responded by sending an assassin to hunt them down, because in a fit of paranoia, he feared that if the existence of his children and previous affair came to light, he would lose his fortune.
Both Veronique and her brother hid as they watched the assassin sent by that man to murder their mother, and didn't dare to come out until the next day out of fear that he would have killed them as well.
After so long and much planning, Veronique finally managed to get close, and would have killed him and take revenge if not for Chevreuse protecting him, and demands that they follow the law instead, saying that her method will just create a cycle of revenge, and that his children will also kill her afterwards if she kills him.
Veronique is very unhappy that he gets to live, thinking that this isn't fair, and that with his power and status, he would still get to live like a king even in prison. Chevreuse tries to reassure her that she would do what she can to make sure that won't happen, but Veronique walks away angrily in response, saying that she doesn't trust or agree with what she said.
At the end it's a bit bittersweet. I guess the Law isn't always fair even if you were to catch the criminal.
>and that his children will also kill her afterwards if she kills him.
I honestly think this is bullshit since they can just turn themselves in after doing the deed. We know Wriothesley won't permit murder within the Fortress if her father's children did want to sneak in to assassinate them.
I was ok with the ending, but if I´m being honest, I would have loved a option in which we get to kill the rich ourselfs, and get away with it due to our status (a ironic ending, in a way)
Well, I can use that in my AU storyline.
TL;DR: Her father had her mother (his mistress) killed for having his kids. They survived, and later in life plotted and succeeded in tracking and killing the assassin who did it, then they tried to kill their father but were stopped by Chevy and she went to jail.
Someone already did the summary of the events so let me just redirect you to the book the entire event is based on.
It's an ingame book called "The 2 Musketeers" a pretty nice read all things considered.
The only one out of this three who could be justified is Veronique. But even then again if people all will decided to screw the law and go killing people that made shit to them world will go into chaos. She had all of the evidence to throw him into meropide. Most of the people in meropide are actually very chill so I’m ready to bet my buttcheeks is someone learned what that guy did he would get his just deserves.(and people in meropide would learn because news there are spreading very fast)
So again Chevreuse did the right thing. The other two is not justified in any sort of way. Both are assholes. If I can understand Pottons motivation in some way he still continued to scam people with dead people water even after he got the money and had the chance to bail. Don’t forget he had connection with so many criminal people his testimony could have gotten Marechusse Fanthom to Vaschear and saved a lot of lives(after Furina SQ will all know how fucked up was being held captive by him was).
Jemma has no justification. Fuck her.
Oh hell nah Benoit Leroy literally sold his granddaughter off to someone else and pretended to his daughter that she was killed. He also used his daughter as a tool for marriage and married her off twice for money. And she was abused constantly.
Slight spoiler warning.
This is a short sociological analysis of Fontaine.
I should emphasize that this is strictly applicable *before* the Fontaine archon quest, specifically *before* Neuvillete did his thing which I will not tell.
Moving on, considering that the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale converts drama into a *literal* energy source, you can't expect a society that survives off of the fuel to... well... that's the point.
No drama. No energy. No fuel, no industry, no economy. You get the point.
How do you get drama? From problems. Practically speaking, Fontaine *has* to have all sorts of problems. But not to the point where problems become too problematic where problematic people die before being judged by the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale.
Thus it only incentivizes *not* to cut societal problems by their deepest roots when doing so brings the total collapse of society, and most importantly ruining the Hydro Archon's plan to do her thing.
Of course, this all changed after Neuvillete did his thing. The thing that he did that now powers the whole country. Without the need for the now-defunct Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale, they don't have to rely on drama anymore to keep the country running.
Which conclusively leads to the betterment of Fontaine as a whole.
Edit: grammar, format.
Wish we can visit these people in Prison. Would be nice to ~~rub it in~~ talk to them and get their thoughts on all of this.
Except for Veronique, she deserves a prison break out scene. Chev is a fuckin moron for that. Turning a blind eye for all of her friend's offences but not Veronique? That's a dirty cop if I've ever seen one.
Veronique was 100% justified in her crimes.
Honestly, fontaine as a whole is kinda messed up justice-wise. From when we arrived, we've seen ourselves nearly imprisoned for an extremely specific bylaw, we've seen both lyney and childe falsely accused, one of whom was sent to prison 'despite' being exonerated. Weve found out that an innocent man can be killed by the state for adamantly refusing to stand trial, we've found out that the prison system is simply just a messed up caste system that pretends to be a fair system where anyone can work their way back up, but is actively abused to target people that the "Duke" feels doesn't deserve that, while uplifting those the Duke likes. Its telling that this is a chinese game, as there are so many issues and discrepancies with the law of fontaine, that the only recourse for the writers is to have all the power concentrated in specific people who the writers can say "oh, they'll handle it if things go wrong" instead of noting how "Laws can be wrong, and people need to constantly make them better, Not just blindly follow them" And this isn't even a dig at china or anything. Just how censorship can make certain topics hard to touch when your bottom line depends on not being censored. Liyue is based on china and has a much better grasp of justice, because you always feel like even if things are or aren't 100 percent against the law, the leaders of Liyue would still make sure that the Social Contract isn't being violated. But when the topic is specifically "Laws and Justice" things like "An enforcer of the law realizing that the law is wrong and trying to make sure justice happens anyway" is the kind of thing that genshin's many competitors in the gacha sphere would happily spin for points, so even if the law is used negatively, it has to be respected by the characters. And the enforcers have to always be right to enforce it. Gimme a Yanfei or Ningguang story about people trying to weasel their way in and out of legality and how to handle them, rather than a fontaine story that boils down to "But the law is the law"
Hell even Wriothsley isn't *that* good at keeping control of Meropide. Some random smuck with a power complex put the entire prison on lockdown complete with mech gardes *just* to ensure that one little girl *born* inside the prison doesn't escape.
I had a similar response to the Fountaine stories, particularly the archon quests and anything associated with the Fortress of Meropide. The settings for the stories and the initial setup for the plots felt so promising, but by the end, it felt like the writers backed away out of fear of offending people in the positions of authority as well as players in general. Ultimately, even though Fountaine obviously wasn't based on China, it still seemed like they couldn't be critical of institutions, like the justice system and the penal system. In the case of the latter, it was a complete mess in how they presented the Fortress of Meropide. They could not convey that life in prison is brutal and that the reality of prison life is the loss of all freedoms. Looking ahead to Natlan, I think the writers will have considerably more freedom in how they approach similar themes. Like Sumeru (where I think they did a far better job), there will be a stronger fantasy element to Natlan in its settings, including the social-economic systems of its inhabitants. There will be less risk of making commentary that exposes the company to unwanted attention.
I think the meropide arc was pretty good at portraying the banality of incarcerated life. It is, more than anything else, dull. Or so I've heard.
I always figured that was the point. Each nation is supposed to embody an ideal, but the story usually ends up showing us how they’ve misinterpreted or abused it. Fontaine’s justice system is messed up, Sumeru’s scholars lack wisdom and start causing LOTS of trouble, and Inazuma’s notion of eternity prevented any cultural progress. Liyue isn’t so bad, but the story did center around someone wanting out of a contract. Mondstadt could still hold a twist; Venti’s got secrets.
If you think about it logically, without even getting into any specifics, from the get go Fontaine is a supremely fucked up police state were all legal matters are decided by a machine no one really understands (and later a singular God Emperor with ultimate authority), were there is absolutely no protection for almost any of the universally accepted rights in modern society, and with no regards for any procedural standards whatsoever. And then all of the investigation, procedure and trial being over at joke-speeds. The only thing duct-taping this whole operation together is suspension of disbelief based on the general feel that the Neuvilette is *good* and thus their choices will be *correct* (which is factually not true).
I would say there are some very clear differences between what the story takes seriously and what it doesnt and that points to what we should be focusing on analyzing. For example, a ton of people point out how Furina was gonna throw the Traveler in jail for a super specific law but lets be honest, she has no actual power in doing that and Neuvillette isnt that dumb to allow that to happen which is why it was played off as a joke. The people around them were more so admiring her public spectacle rather than a genuine arrest which is why she panicked when we challenged her because that wasnt really what was “in the script”. At worst, we wouldve just been delayed in going to Fontaine so the entire scenario was played off rather lighthearted enough that nothing wouldve really happened. The crime scene, she had plenty of evidence for Lyney being the murder. It just happened we found more evidence proving otherwise and the trial was taken formally. Also, Navia’s father didnt “refuse to stand trial”, he had a choice. The choice is not take the trial and face Clorinde *or* stand trial. Once one is picked, the other cannot be acted upon. Considering it’s a duel to the death and Clorinde is still alive, we can safely say the duel is a 100% death rate. Now the issue here is that this included political movements that Navia wasnt even aware of and standing trial is generally much more fair than our current modern justice system at least. Navia comes to the conclusion that if he had stood trial, he likely wouldve won but because that placed Navia in danger, he didnt and chose to hand over his position as the Leader to Navia to protect her which is something only the people onvolved at the moment of the murder wouldve been aware of. In the end, this was an elaborate plan to expose him once Navia was old enough to take him into trial herself and the arc resolves there. Its not like Neuvillette is a lie detector but it’s also not like he makes unfair or partial judgements either. At least in canon so far.
The duel isn't a 100% death rate, it was explained that Navia's father chose to die rather than yield, and Clorinde's lore does talk about how people cheat against her in duels only to lose and end up getting additional charges of "contempt of court", a charge that seems superficial if they really were dead after each duel.
Iirc the duel is to the death and Navia’s father accepted his defeat without question or resistance. Basically, it was a glorified execution rather than a real duel. But I havent read Clorinde’s lore so Im mostly blind on that.
Fron Fontaine Act 2: Navia: But since he entrusted his will to you, Clorinde, you should tell us the truth about his sacrifice. Furina: Erm... So... During the duel, did you believe that Callas was intending to die? Clorinde: Yes, I did. Clorinde: As a Champion Duelist, I've fought many battles, and taken a countless number of dishonored lives. Clorinde: In my line of work, I've seen all kinds of people give their all for the faintest hope to continue living. Some were determined, others passionate, and some even manic and twisted. Clorinde: Just one look and I can tell if a duelist is hoping to live, or if they're looking to die. Clorinde: I hereby swear on my name and honor as a Champion Duelist that Mr. Callas never intended to leave the Ring alive.
Im aware of this scene but the additional lore on people being able to leave the duel alive was vague at the time and I havent played her story quest or own her at all so the additional info I was nor aware of it. This scene in the Archon quest doesnt contradict anything I was trying to say.
I can’t be assed to look up any of the actual dialogue, but from what I remember the AQ was always pretty straightforward about the fact you can yield the duel and that Callas only died because he was specifically choosing not to.
I was under the impression that the decision was actually between Callas taking the trial or taking the duel. I dont remember whether his duel was actually to the death but it’s only been implied that taking the duel usually means the suspect is guilty but wants a chance to escape and with Clorinde still alive, I just assumed it was a duel to the death without any leeway. Again, I could be wrong but its then implied that Callas accepted his death in the duel because going to trial would endanger Navia and he didnt want that despite having clear evidence of what happened. The only one implied to have been able to stop the duel was Neuvillette because Navia called Callas “clearly innocent at the time” but with no evidence at the time for Neuvillette to see and Callas refusing to go to trial, it was a very morally grey area of whether he was innocent or guilt.y.
And you see, this is why you live in Mondstat.
Are you morally justified because you are the law? Or are you the law because you are morally justified? Laws are inherently human, in the sense that it reflects the creator’s intent at the time. But the law should be remembered to be a reflection, and not an unquestionable rule. That’s why we have legal professionals, or just people who know the law to argue for their interpretation.
Of note is that Meropide isn't really a prison but an allied micro-nation that criminals are exiled to. Wriothesley is a dictator who doesn't answer to Fontaine law. He derives his power from his own strength, influence. He is supported by some Fontainians because he is most likely to be the most stable and friendly leader for Fontaine to work with.
Which is why I'm still not satisfied that she couldn't finish the job despite hearing Chevreuse's reasons for it. Like, the worst Veronique can get is a life behind bars. Chev could easily turn a blind eye for that.
But the funny thing is that both her and Morris are being thrown into Meropide *together*. And instead of giving Wrio a heads-up about one of the new inmates possibly trying to murder the other one, she instead gives him the "fuck this guy lol" kind of heads-up. Morris is not gonna last a week before getting prison shanked by Veronique, so Chevreuse might as well have sentenced him to death.
Exactly lol There isn't really much of a difference if she just lets Veronique finish him off. I would be more ok with her decision if she's someone who doesn't use dirty tricks but earlier the event itself shows that she can use underhanded tactics to get info from Fleuve Cendre. Since she anticipated Veronique to bite her bait, she may as well make it so that she didn't see her coming, giving her plausible deniability.
Excuse me, Chevreuse is an officer of the **law** 😤 and will dutifully uphold the law as she should as she believes in due process. But Meropide operates outside of Fontaine law so whatever happens there is not her problem, so...🔪
I don’t remember much from the event besides Chevreuse shooting Yoimiya and the really godawful acting Ayaka did. Care to refresh me?
Veronique and her brother seek vengeance against a corrupt noble who murdered their mother. Long ago, that noble had an affair with a maid, who was her mother. She ended up getting pregnant which scared him. He demanded her to abort the child, but she refused to do so and so she left in silence. However, years later she sent him a picture and a letter asking if he at the very least wanted to see his children. That noble in turn responded by sending an assassin to hunt them down, because in a fit of paranoia, he feared that if the existence of his children and previous affair came to light, he would lose his fortune. Both Veronique and her brother hid as they watched the assassin sent by that man to murder their mother, and didn't dare to come out until the next day out of fear that he would have killed them as well. After so long and much planning, Veronique finally managed to get close, and would have killed him and take revenge if not for Chevreuse protecting him, and demands that they follow the law instead, saying that her method will just create a cycle of revenge, and that his children will also kill her afterwards if she kills him. Veronique is very unhappy that he gets to live, thinking that this isn't fair, and that with his power and status, he would still get to live like a king even in prison. Chevreuse tries to reassure her that she would do what she can to make sure that won't happen, but Veronique walks away angrily in response, saying that she doesn't trust or agree with what she said. At the end it's a bit bittersweet. I guess the Law isn't always fair even if you were to catch the criminal.
>and that his children will also kill her afterwards if she kills him. I honestly think this is bullshit since they can just turn themselves in after doing the deed. We know Wriothesley won't permit murder within the Fortress if her father's children did want to sneak in to assassinate them.
Veronique still gets sent to prison regardless even after the failed attempt. So in the end, fail or succeed, it didn't really matter.
Yes, which is why I say she should've been allowed to finish the job. If you're still going to prison for it why not just let her do it?
You will most likely get a worse sentence
Such as...? (I'm genuinely curious)
Getting 25 years for first degree murder is more punishing than lets say 10 for planned assassination's
Eh, I'd say if they don't care as much about freedom as getting their revenge, then they should just go for it.
I was ok with the ending, but if I´m being honest, I would have loved a option in which we get to kill the rich ourselfs, and get away with it due to our status (a ironic ending, in a way) Well, I can use that in my AU storyline.
Sounds pretty based tbh, both rightfully go to jail .
TL;DR: Her father had her mother (his mistress) killed for having his kids. They survived, and later in life plotted and succeeded in tracking and killing the assassin who did it, then they tried to kill their father but were stopped by Chevy and she went to jail.
Someone already did the summary of the events so let me just redirect you to the book the entire event is based on. It's an ingame book called "The 2 Musketeers" a pretty nice read all things considered.
Having to read that bottom text hurt.
Veronique does not deserve to be on this list
F*ck Jemma, she ruined a good man life and images for years and felt nothing about it.
In Veronique's case, I think it makes the point that the law, while meant to be far and impartial, will never equate to true justice.
Veronique broke the law but she is morally irreprehensible.
The only one out of this three who could be justified is Veronique. But even then again if people all will decided to screw the law and go killing people that made shit to them world will go into chaos. She had all of the evidence to throw him into meropide. Most of the people in meropide are actually very chill so I’m ready to bet my buttcheeks is someone learned what that guy did he would get his just deserves.(and people in meropide would learn because news there are spreading very fast) So again Chevreuse did the right thing. The other two is not justified in any sort of way. Both are assholes. If I can understand Pottons motivation in some way he still continued to scam people with dead people water even after he got the money and had the chance to bail. Don’t forget he had connection with so many criminal people his testimony could have gotten Marechusse Fanthom to Vaschear and saved a lot of lives(after Furina SQ will all know how fucked up was being held captive by him was). Jemma has no justification. Fuck her.
What did Jemma do to deserve sympathy?
Opps wrong person. Sorry about that. Replied by mistake.
There's also the Leroy WQ, only difference is that they get away with it.
Ah wait, you didn't mean "Leroy got away with it"
Not how I played it, he didn't
Oh hell nah Benoit Leroy literally sold his granddaughter off to someone else and pretended to his daughter that she was killed. He also used his daughter as a tool for marriage and married her off twice for money. And she was abused constantly.
I think they meant Autumn and Athos got away with killing Leroy. Not that Leroy got away with everything he did.
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Slight spoiler warning. This is a short sociological analysis of Fontaine. I should emphasize that this is strictly applicable *before* the Fontaine archon quest, specifically *before* Neuvillete did his thing which I will not tell. Moving on, considering that the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale converts drama into a *literal* energy source, you can't expect a society that survives off of the fuel to... well... that's the point. No drama. No energy. No fuel, no industry, no economy. You get the point. How do you get drama? From problems. Practically speaking, Fontaine *has* to have all sorts of problems. But not to the point where problems become too problematic where problematic people die before being judged by the Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale. Thus it only incentivizes *not* to cut societal problems by their deepest roots when doing so brings the total collapse of society, and most importantly ruining the Hydro Archon's plan to do her thing. Of course, this all changed after Neuvillete did his thing. The thing that he did that now powers the whole country. Without the need for the now-defunct Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale, they don't have to rely on drama anymore to keep the country running. Which conclusively leads to the betterment of Fontaine as a whole. Edit: grammar, format.
Vautrin : Murder may not be judicially legal, but it's definitely an effective solution.
Why is Véronique here again? And not the bastard who killed her mom?
Being a Vigilante seems to be illegal in Fontaine.
Wish we can visit these people in Prison. Would be nice to ~~rub it in~~ talk to them and get their thoughts on all of this. Except for Veronique, she deserves a prison break out scene. Chev is a fuckin moron for that. Turning a blind eye for all of her friend's offences but not Veronique? That's a dirty cop if I've ever seen one.
Just remember to put SPOILER when publishing near release of SQ.
Man, next time please proofread things you post online. Like come on, that bottom panel
Nah Jemmas a bitch, haven't done siegewinnes so I can speak about that guy. Veronique was justified 100%