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AlphonseLoosely

It was used post sex as an ineffective and presumably deeply unpleasant contraception, 'back in the day'


CarbyMcBagel

A lot of birth control products were marketed as "women's hygeine" products back then because birth control was illegal. They were at best ineffective but harmless and at worst ineffective and dangerous. Edited to add: another common item during that era were tinctures and tonics for "women's hygiene" to treat "irregularities." They were ostensibly for treating an *irregular* menstrual cycle or other vague *menstrual troubles*. Publicly discussing any menstrual problem was exceptionally taboo so you really have to read between the lines here. They were made of herbs and plants like Pennyroyal and caused miscarriages.


squirrellytoday

Things were also described as being for "restoring menses" if they were abortifacient.


incubusfc

“Sit and drink pennyroyal tea Distill the life that’s inside of me” Holy shit I didn’t put those together. Edit - yeah I didn’t get the lyric right. Sorry.


OldExistential

But that’s not the lyric. It’s ‘distill the life that’s inside of me’


jamaicanoproblem

I thought it was “to still the life that’s inside of me” because that would make more sense… I’m disappointed to learn you’re right


Ms_Emilys_Picture

Could also be a bit of a play on words.


incubusfc

Oh shit you’re right.


Otherwise_Bear_7982

Wow me neither (and, probably a bunch of seemingly nonsense Nirvava lyrics will continue to go right over my head despite actually having meaning)


incubusfc

I didn’t get the lyric right though.


Otherwise_Bear_7982

Hey they weren't called Nirvava either lol


soliherba

From "In Utero"


GypsySnowflake

I wonder how common that knowledge was, or if there were women out there trying to get pregnant and having no idea that their regular Lysol baths were self-sabotaging


CarbyMcBagel

It was common knowledge. The products weren't marketed this way by accident. Women knew what to look and ask for; birth control methods have been around as long as people have.


redcolumbine

It didn't work (and may have caused cancer - Lysol contained cresol at the time). But it was a brilliantly evil marketing campaign. They never said it in their official communication, but they implied it and never attempted to clarify.


mrslII

Physicians commonly recommend a Lysol douche. Due to the information available at that time. Women shared "recipes" to "prevent birth". Because we had to rely on each other. There were several, well-known, recipes to "prevent birth". Many shared on 3x5 cards, tucked into thousands of recipe boxes. Filed under "Miscellaneous". Because no one looked there. It was there if you, a friend, or loved one, needed one. Then that person saved it to share. Some recipes listed Lysol as a single ingredient. In a list of many ingredients. It wasn't "evil marketing". The evil was not having access to safe healthcare.


lighthouser41

Which sadly is happening again today.


mrslII

You're right. I was trying to make that point, as well.


Granddyke

In what way, if I may ask?


lighthouser41

Women not having access to safe healthcare.


Granddyke

I thought you meant specifically the use of Lysol, thank you for the reply


BlackSeranna

One lady told my mom she used turpentine around the belly button.


Mego1989

Thank you. The comment that said that women just knew what these things were for was kind of blowing my mind. This makes much more sense.


mrslII

They had to know. (I'm someone who remembers the passage of Roe v Wade.i was very young. ) I've heard stories from family members, including my grandmother, and great-grandmother. My grandmother was born in 1919. Nothing from my mother. I was an unplanned pregnancy.) I found some of the "recipes" in their recipe boxes, when they died. I've found others, in other recipe boxes in thrift stores. They had, held onto, and shared information. Including who would terminate a pregnancy. If someone in the community would. Some of it "worked". Some didn't. Often, multiple attempts were made. I became curious, after hearing about the recipes, and other stories, from them. How, sometimes, one or more, women in the community would stay with the "patient". Household chores had to be completed, and meals made, in many cases. Sometimes, someone would provide childcare. Often, women endured on their own. The person that I originally replied to mentioned " evil marketing" and the prospect of causing cancer. The truth is more desperate, and heinous. Women, and girls, were assaulted when trying to end a pregnancy. Women, and girls, were horriblly burned, and scared. Women, and girls, were left unable to bear children. Women died- Even with support from others.


redcolumbine

The "information" was available from Lysol marketing (albeit not self-identified as such). This was very much intentional and engineered.


mrslII

You can pick whatever hill you choose to defend. No one is going to stop you.


Smart-Stupid666

It's not evil. It's not evil. It's not evil.


Smart-Stupid666

See, abortion has been around forever. One of the founding fathers had recipes. In the Bible God tells men how to abort their wives' babies. Numbers five if you don't believe me. And the conservatives want to cut everyone off. You can bet their girlfriends are getting them.


Stracharys

Wow! That was akin to testing for a which by seeing if a woman floats! The husband could have his wife suffer that trial if he was even feeling jealousy, and the burden of proof was, of course, on her. “The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.”


whatsasimba

God did a whole lot of post-birth abortions, too. The flood and his son, are just a few.


Spiritual_Ad_3259

Wow


MishmoshMishmosh

Yikes.


Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly

According to my mom as a 1950's teenager in the Southern United Statee, girls would shake up glass bottles of Coca Cola and douche with them in public restrooms after "parking" or sex at drive in movies. Apparently, it was thought the carbonation and pressure would clean out the sperm? Less unpleasant than Lysol I guess, but it must have been so sticky.


symphonic-ooze

Breeding ground for yeast infections with all that sugar


StrongArgument

Honestly the acidity probably did a little something . I guess sperm motility is low below pH 6, and coke is under 3.


CeramicLicker

Yeah, I’ve heard of it as a homemade spermicide before. I’m glad most people have access to better options now. A good reminder of the saying “the good old days were terrible”


Urithiru

Here is an article on it. https://www.motherjones.com/media/2012/03/when-women-used-lysol-birth-control/


vidanyabella

Not just used as a contraceptive either. It was also used as an abortifacient. Just look up Lysol abortion. It's a hell of a rabbit hole. One a lot of forced birthers want to see come back.


SimpleVegetable5715

The old Plan B when the condom broke.


Spiritual_Ad_3259

Or when their pullout game was weak.


haroldangel

I saw this in Boardwalk Empire!


duh_nom_yar

Feel the burn


Consistent_Sale_7541

my hands ache looking at that picture.. my mother used to make me scrub the kitchen and dining room floor on hands and knees, no gloves with lysol and water


No_Banana_581

My stepmom did too. The tub and the kitchen floor. I can still smell that stuff in my brain when I think about it. I had to use the old creamy murhys oil to shine the wood floors everywhere w a cotton cloth on my hands and knees once a month and then go over it again to buff it out


Smart-Stupid666

I hope you know that was child abuse


graywoman7

That’s how floors used to be cleaned for most people. It was a point of pride for families to have very clean homes and things like spin mops and gentle cleaners didn’t exist so lysol and scrubbing with a brush was how it got done. Waxing floors was part of it because modern floor coatings hadn’t been invented yet. Kids helped with all chores deemed appropriate for their age and gender, including scrubbing floors. I scrubbed floors too and while I’m old on Reddit I’m young compared to average age so we’re not talking 100 or even 50 years ago. 


TopHatCat999

Did they not have gloves back then?? I mean 😭


mangatoo1020

Haha gross! I've actually used that before (NOT AS A DOUCHE LMAO) to disinfect my basement after it flooded with sewer water many many years ago (and the bottle was pretty old back then too). It smelled very medicinal. Several years ago, the basement flooded again, and I was disappointed to find out they didn't sell it any more. I ended up using bleach.


babysmalltalk

They do still sell Lysol concentrate! It's hard to find in stores but it exists.


mangatoo1020

Thanks! I'll keep my eyes open for it!


HumbleAbbreviations

Check Walmart.


Smart-Stupid666

Holy crap, I hope you had a mask


mysmom2001

My grandmother was from Green county Tennessee. During the Great Depression women would use Lysol as an abortifacient. It rarely works, and it could cause sepsis. Very dangerous.


jeneric84

I wonder if it was known as a gamble even back then but desperation took precedent.


Skele_again

Can you imagine the desperation of an unwanted pregnancy during the great depression? Holy shit!


koalamonster515

That makes me a wee bit nauseous just to think about.


alleecmo

Hello, fellow hillbilly descendant! Momo (b. 1900s) was from Wayne County and also was intimately acquainted with Lysol's varied uses.


OnlyFreshBrine

No, that can't be. That's conservative country.


Significant-Link3359

it definitely can be, was and still is a thing that happens in "conservative country"


OnlyFreshBrine

Life ends at disinfection.


ReferenceMuch2193

This concentrate has a particular smell. Like a dental office. It’s medicinal smelling.


Urithiru

In 1952 Lysol changed its formula and replaced the potentially carcinogenic cresol with ortho-hydroxydiphenyl. This made Lysol about one-fourth as toxic but “still potentially lethal if swallowed by a young child.”


alleecmo

The newer smell always reminded me of Band-aids.


ReferenceMuch2193

Exactly! Bandaids.


LG0110

I've read a lot of death certificates of women using Lysol as a suicide aid. It's so very sad. One lady drank it a day after giving birth.


Urithiru

That is so sad. Do the death certificates actually state the poison used or is that info learned from another source? I've done genealogy research but I've never seen a death certificate for a poisoning, accidental or international. 


LG0110

There's a sub here called Death certificates and some of the older ones do.


LG0110

I'm having trouble linking it but it's on the sub Death certificates. Just search Lysol in the search bar.


miscplacedduck

I had a coworker who’s 13 year old daughter used the Lysol spray on her nether region thinking it would get things tidy and refreshed. The 4 hours in the ER with an inflamed vagina proved otherwise.


MORGBORG_on_YT

r/kidsarefuckingstupid


StrongArgument

Parents who don’t teach kids about hygiene and reproductive health are fucking stupid


babysmalltalk

My grandma used to take a weekly Lysol bath.


borgchupacabras

Hwhat now?


FunAdministration334

After Sunday bukake


Brother_Delmer

An extremely rare sighting in the wild of the term "douche bag" where it is not an insult!


anotherbuffalogal

Digging into the history of women's healthcare in America is truly shocking. This is just a tiny taste 😖


squirrellytoday

Not just in the USA either. Women's health historically was just horrid. The past was the fekkin worst, in so many ways.


borgchupacabras

"The good old days"


N8iveIO1

It definitely is. I made the mistake of looking up the history of the chainsaw. 😳


hey-meow

Why did you do that to me.


N8iveIO1

Sorry. I did say that I’d made that mistake. 🤷🏼‍♀️


gap97216

There’s a late night rabbit hole nightmare! The history of the douche.


Fairgoddess5

Unfortunately it’s still pretty awful tho, for a lot of reasons.


ghostkittykat

My labia majora slammed shut after reading this.


pigglepops

My minora slammed soon after


ghostkittykat

Our vagina's "fight-or-flight-or-batten down the hatches" ain't messin' around.


jase40244

I remember hearing about that. It's said to have caused chemical burns "down there" in some women. But it wasn't uncommon for unregulated marketing departments to come up with stuff like that. I remember hearing Listerine was originally a floor cleaner that was later marketed as an, anti-septic, a dandruff remedy, and a mouthwash.


acidwashvideo

Emanuel Bronner laughs at your puny tri-purpose product and scales his font down a little more


CommunistOrgy

ALL ONE OR NONE!


eighteen_forty_no

DILUTE! DILUTE! OKAY!


Lainarlej

Listerine is used as a cleaning solution for removing cat pee smell and spray on countertop or outdoor table to keep flies away


symphonic-ooze

Really? I'll have to try that one. Do you mix it with water or use it straight? is it the regular pee-colored Blisterine?


solaroma

My grandfather used Listerine for dandruff. I remember him putting some in his hand and patting/ rubbing it into his balds head. This was in the 1970s.


pearlescentpink

There is a scene in Boardwalk Empire highlighting this purpose that sent me down a Lysol rabbit hole many years ago.


theexitisontheleft

I’m torn between screaming and crossing my legs really tightly. Guess I’ll just do both.


calvin-coolidge

So you’re saying my great grandmother was using Lysol as a douche, and im out here not touching receipts because of BPA/BPS


mattyh2433

Use on: Linoleum, Porcelain, Stinky Pussy, Hardwood Floors & More


FunAdministration334

Hahahaha


reijasunshine

Sadly, yes, it was a thing. They shamed women into thinking their bodies were dirty and unsanitary, and believing that they needed to use MFing lysol to "fix" the "problem".


Gazorpazorpfield_8

Isn’t this how Trump proposed we cure Covid 😂


acidwashvideo

If you don't have the anatomy to douche, just boof it.


Triette

This was more along the lines of a “birth control” method hidden behind “hygiene”.


This-Requirement6918

Well western hospitals have done the same thing to this day with males having foreskin.


Ini_Miney_Mimi

Removing foreskin with clean tools in a clean hospital, complete with aftercare and followup? Surrounded by actual doctors who know what they're doing... Versus being prescribed floor cleaner to shove up your vag at home by a "doctor" who's never even looked at a vagina before because they're too "dirty"? I don't agree with the practice of foreskin removal either, but no. It's not the same thing.


This-Requirement6918

It was an analogy how western medicine sees foreskin as dirty. You really didn't get it. r/woosh


Motherofcats789

It seems unnecessary to insert a penis into a conversation about women’s health.


FunAdministration334

On the bright side, now they don’t have to Lysol behind all that skin, eh?


urbantravelsPHL

The vintage ads for Lysol douches are really something. On the surface they're all about "personal daintiness" and how if you don't douche with Lysol your husband will be horrified with your stank down there. Which is \*fully bad enough\*. But the underlying knowledge that douching with Lysol was considered to be a contraceptive (and, worse still, that some would try to get it up their cervix as an abortifacient) makes the ads read like a true horror show. Yes, Woman of the Past, you don't have safe and effective contraception available to you, but it's YOUR FAULT if your marital sex life isn't going great because of that fact and you'd damn well better keep your Lysol bottle handy. [https://www.messynessychic.com/2020/05/19/how-she-kept-her-husband-with-lysol-the-disinfectant-of-choice-for-feminine-hygiene/](https://www.messynessychic.com/2020/05/19/how-she-kept-her-husband-with-lysol-the-disinfectant-of-choice-for-feminine-hygiene/)


angeltart

I mean life before the pill..


FunAdministration334

I laughed out loud at “personal daintiness.” [fans away flies down there]


ArtaxIsAlive

Yeah it was actually written into the HBO show Boardwalk Empire which one of the female characters does. It’s not mentioned or a part of the story or script, just something she does in some random (post coital) moment that’s historically accurate.


cranbeery

"This is what you do. After you lie down with me, you go in there, wash your body with this poison, like any whore.” He then smashes it after she says she won't be having any more children, the implication being that the Lysol is not *just* for "cleanliness." So yeah, the word "Lysol" isn't said aloud (just printed on the label), but it's definitely part of the story.


Partigirl

I had a relative that used it as a douch back in the early 60s and said it burned horribly. It was her husband who told her he didn't think she should use it if it hurt. People trusted companies back then because they thought they truly had their customer's best interests in mind.


ChumpChainge

Back in the day magazines had full page ads on how douching with Lysol was really every wife’s responsibility if she wanted to keep a happy husband.


angeltart

Or what you did if you had a horrible husband.. I feel like people don’t really talk about marital rape .. and how prevalent it was.


myra_myra_myra

Oh good gosh.


penguinbiscotti

"A little spray here, a little spray there, a little spray in my underwear!"


Mobile-Ad3151

Google Lysol douche ads. They also advertised it as a remedy for women whose husbands were uninterested in intimacy with their wives due to “odors down there.” They pathologized normal genital scents and made women feel like it was their own poor hygiene that caused their partner to not want sex. No, it *couldn’t* be that hubby was having an affair or was a closet homosexual. It was only because she smelled bad. Ad execs were just making women feel insecure over normal body function so they could sell more Lysol. Who cares if it caused a miscarriage or gave vaginas chemical burns or messed up their delicate ph balance? Not the Mad Men! I’m sure many women had no idea it was an abortifacient and lost wanted babies due to being made to feel they weren’t’ well enough disinfected for sex.


Candy_Says1964

I was hoping it was a recipe for making speed lol.


Usedtobesperm

i have that feeling guys get when they see other guys getting kicked in the nads


mr_electrician

Pikachu used **testicle retract**


N983CC

The bottle of bluing is cool too


arbitrosse

Contraceptive and (believed possible) abortifacient. It would have been outrageous at the time to directly state those words on the label, and depending upon where this was sold, illegal. Other contraceptive methods at the time were primarily available only to men (condoms) or married women with their husbands’ consent (diaphragm), or little-known (fertility awareness method) in the countries where this was sold. If you are shocked by this, I have some bad news for you about women’s history.


Autxnxmy

Yup Lysol was originally intended as a feminine hygiene product until women started getting seriously ill


algebramclain

“New Shimmer is a floor wax!” “No, New Shimmer is a desert topping!”


sideshowbvo

Am I the only one thinking "Lysol That Pussy(LTP)" could be a rap song?


ponyrx2

Pouring Lysol into your local douche bag since 1930


EhDotHam

Yep. It was actally used as a type of birth control 😳


gap97216

Damn! The Good, The Bad, The Caustic


Sharp-Incident-6272

My Nanny used to douche with Borax…


SimpleVegetable5715

There's still boric acid suppositories at Target.


Sharp-Incident-6272

I’m not sad that I don’t see commercials for “mom sometimes I just don’t feel fresh” while driving in the car when mom Pulls out the masengil box because everyone keeps douche in their purse


FunAdministration334

Got mine on a keychain, fam.


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

Yes Lysol used to be used as a douche. Clean your floors, clean your vag! I take it you never saw Boardwalk Empire.


MamaDidntTry

My grandma was still using Lysol as a "personal cleanser" (as she called it) IN THE 90s!!


SimpleVegetable5715

I remember learning about that in college. If it wasn't diluted enough, it could cause chemical burns, since this is the phenolic version of Lysol (phenols are great disinfectant, but also used in some chemical peels). Microbiome what? I'm pretty sure it caused some issues if a woman douched with Lysol when they were pregnant also.


DFWtixFleas

Lysol douche truly cleans Grandma’s ‘pantry’.


SausageBuscuit

That’s seems like a record-breaking yeast infection speed run.


myniche999

My grandmother always had this mixed with water in a separate brown glass spray bottle that also said Lysol on it. One day when I was about 5 years old, I tried to pet her neighbor’s cat and it gave me bloody scratches down my entire inner forearm. My grandmother wanted to disinfect it, so she sprayed what was in the bottle into the cuts. That moment instantly became a long term memory that I still have today.


coffeebeanwitch

This stuff was stinky!!!


YogurtclosetAny1823

Listerine and I believe Lysol were also used for Douching.


SimpleVegetable5715

Listerine was a surface disinfectant before they realized it's an effective mouthwash.


Exact_Insurance

I can smell that now...I believe you can still buy this today I work in a grocery store...I will check out the shelves when I go to work later


HumbleAbbreviations

It easily available at Walmart pre Covid.


Steelcod114

I *knew* douchbags were a thing...


MissPicklechips

No matter how bad the political climate gets, please do not put Lysol up your lady bits.


CraziZoom

HEY DO NOT DO THIS


[deleted]

I thought that was fairly common knowledge by now that they came before Summers Eve in that department


Crazy-bored4210

Omg!!!!!


missdead_lee138

Omg. That sounds horrible..ouchhhh


JohnExcrement

CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE???! 😱😱😱


Historical_Animal_17

DEEP clean with Lysol!


SirCaptainReynolds

Just love the old school terminology of, “douche”.


LemonadeParadeinDade

My mom had one of these left in the 90s. I was horrified. O I learned 2 young.


StrangeSequitur

I knew that Lysol was marketed as a douche, but I didn't know that they recommended diluting it first, so this is... oddly comforting to know, given the _absolute horrors_ I had been imagining all these years.


theCountessofCool

RIP your pH balance for like the next decade, good LORD.


StarryEyedSurprise33

Omg was Trump right about injecting Lysol? /s


DizzyVictory

Code for contraception. Pretty wild but also, I’m keeping this in mind for when shit gets real around here.


comat0se

yea maybe, but in the 90s I worked a home for schizophrenic women and some lady in her 70s went to the hospital because she douched with Lysol... except it was Lysol concentrate. Dont think she was pregnant but she may have thought she was.


Affectionate_Salt351

The way everything crawled back inside me when I read that… 🥴


periloustrail

Granny was wild!


FunAdministration334

I knew that was coming, but I still smiled 😂


FunAdministration334

I worked for an older woman years ago who described this to me. She also cleaned around the outside with Listerine. Just for funsies, I guess.


KnittingKitty

# 1937 Took a fatal amount of Lysol within 24 hours of giving birth to her 3rd child [https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathCertificates/comments/1doap31/took\_a\_fatal\_amount\_of\_lysol\_within\_24\_hours\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathCertificates/comments/1doap31/took_a_fatal_amount_of_lysol_within_24_hours_of/) #


OtherThumbs

Some women used to do this as a birth control method. DO NOT DO THIS!!!!


Mr-Blackheart

It was created and marketed first as a douche.


127Heathen127

My vagina just retreated inside itself. 😨


Loud-Mans-Lover

I think I just made a diamond with how hard I clamped down at the thought. Ohmigosh. No. Eww.


sweetpotato-1123

Holy crap! My thighs just slammed shut involuntarily.


vibes86

It was first launched as a feminine hygiene product. I can’t even imagine that. Ouch.


HankIndieGamesYT

I don't even have a vagina and the thought of a Lysol douche makes my insides feel itchy and raw.


Buzz_Osborne

DEEP CLEAN


garyandkathi

Can you imagine the SMELL??


flatgreysky

Oh dear Jesus.


Any_Title4767

my stunned ass read “one tampon lysol to each quart” 😵‍💫


Dry-Environment-929

Yeah... I cannot even imagine douching with fecking LYSOL


Lumpy_Branch_4835

Yeah I remember reading that when I was a kid. Fuck I'm old.


Smart-Stupid666

I knew it was going to be that!!!! I think I read it 20 years ago or so.


Lainarlej

They still sell this. I use it on my floors, it has a really strong (hospital) smell, but I know it kills germs and pet odors.


fungus909

That would definitely get you clean..


Objective_Zombie3493

No thank you.


EyesOpenBrainonFire

Yikes… a deep clean.


Eddieroxsteady

Douche baggery


Welder_Subject

Hmm, will that work for Covid? Sounds kind of trumpy.


imburningagain

Dettol 🇯🇲


ThisIsTooLongOfAName

Go to the store and buy regular Lysol and try to take that back .


Royal-Association-79

Yup. My friend’s dad would use Lysol wipes like wet naps because he grew up in this era. Luckily he never used it internally lol


Shiny_Green_Apple

Diaper Pails and Douche: Mid-Century Mom


wyohman

They are talking about your ex


ClassicWhile2451

You just know that lysol probably cleans way better than anything on the market these days


Greedy_Group2251

Yep! True!


trampus1

Someone tell Cardi B.


HumbleAbbreviations

She probably grew up using Lemisol.