Yeah, when you finish the basic learning, the hard part of learning matchups and learning the psychology of fighting another player is all that's left, and that part is really hard.
You have to either push through or just decide to take it more casually. Or stop. Or just look for a new fighting game to learn I guess
i mean, that's pretty much fighting games at a high enough level. you've gotta predict what the opponent is going to do based on what they've done previously. i find that fun since you're rewarded for being right in most cases.
For me it was the inverse, the most fun I've had with this game began when I hit celestial. I could finally explore the depth of the game without worrying about ranks
Judging by what you and other people are saying, i think you're kinda right. Since i started the game, i always wanted to get to celestial. But now that im there, its not as fun as i thought it would be. I think staying more casual and just goofing around is more so up my alley
It sounds like you’re experiencing a level of competency where you’re starting to feel dispirited by how much you just don’t know.
Following the Dreyfus model of skills acquisition, you’re at the point where the magic and mystery is gone and you still have to make conscious efforts to solve problems. This is usually the part where people are most frustrated with learning something new, as they’re very well aware of the sheer volume of things they don’t know. You’ve gone past simply not knowing combos or match-ups and have begun to start trying to play around your opponents.
When you talk about guessing, you feel that you’re guessing because you aren’t sure enough/do not have the experience yet to make more than a guess. After awhile you’ll simply know what an opponent will or won’t do based on what they’ve been doing. You won’t be right every time but you won’t feel like you’re guessing randomly either.
This is the part where you really have to work at learning fighting games as a genre. It’s the least fun part to really work on, but once you’re past it, you can jump into basically any fighter and have fun with it at any skill level.
I totally feel you when it comes to fighting random single matches online. Playing against people I know (friends or just people I've met a couple of times online), though, is fun as hell. Even just long sets with strangers, doing 10+ matches gets really exciting. It's also a lot less of a guessing game when you actually know how someone plays from previous matches, and that makes it less frustrating/boring.
You might be dIfferent, of course, I'm a super competitive person, you may not be.
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No. For me the psychology of solving my opponent and being able to predict what they're going to do is the most fun part of a fighting game. Obviously it isn't purely guessing or the same people wouldn't be dominating the competitive scene year in and year out. What you're feeling isn't uncommon though, most people quit fighting games at around your level because that's when it starts to actually get hard and make you think beyond just flailing at your controller until you get a stray hit you can convert into the same combo you've practiced a thousand times, a lot of people prefer to not have to think.
If you don't enjoy it then go do something else. You may get the itch again to play after some time away. It's not like playing the game is your job lol why worry about it.
Yeah, when you finish the basic learning, the hard part of learning matchups and learning the psychology of fighting another player is all that's left, and that part is really hard. You have to either push through or just decide to take it more casually. Or stop. Or just look for a new fighting game to learn I guess
i mean, that's pretty much fighting games at a high enough level. you've gotta predict what the opponent is going to do based on what they've done previously. i find that fun since you're rewarded for being right in most cases.
For me it was the inverse, the most fun I've had with this game began when I hit celestial. I could finally explore the depth of the game without worrying about ranks
it sounds like you figured out fighting games and you don't actually like them as much as you thought.
Judging by what you and other people are saying, i think you're kinda right. Since i started the game, i always wanted to get to celestial. But now that im there, its not as fun as i thought it would be. I think staying more casual and just goofing around is more so up my alley
Did you try switching character, it helps renewing the gameplay
For example, Asuka R. Kreutz. He’s great fun with near limitless potential for crazy plays. (I picked up Asuka a week ago and watch Gobou’s gameplay)
It sounds like you’re experiencing a level of competency where you’re starting to feel dispirited by how much you just don’t know. Following the Dreyfus model of skills acquisition, you’re at the point where the magic and mystery is gone and you still have to make conscious efforts to solve problems. This is usually the part where people are most frustrated with learning something new, as they’re very well aware of the sheer volume of things they don’t know. You’ve gone past simply not knowing combos or match-ups and have begun to start trying to play around your opponents. When you talk about guessing, you feel that you’re guessing because you aren’t sure enough/do not have the experience yet to make more than a guess. After awhile you’ll simply know what an opponent will or won’t do based on what they’ve been doing. You won’t be right every time but you won’t feel like you’re guessing randomly either. This is the part where you really have to work at learning fighting games as a genre. It’s the least fun part to really work on, but once you’re past it, you can jump into basically any fighter and have fun with it at any skill level.
I totally feel you when it comes to fighting random single matches online. Playing against people I know (friends or just people I've met a couple of times online), though, is fun as hell. Even just long sets with strangers, doing 10+ matches gets really exciting. It's also a lot less of a guessing game when you actually know how someone plays from previous matches, and that makes it less frustrating/boring. You might be dIfferent, of course, I'm a super competitive person, you may not be.
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Ez. Get worse or find a friend who is as skilled as you. Having a blast as floor 10 and soon to be celestial
No. For me the psychology of solving my opponent and being able to predict what they're going to do is the most fun part of a fighting game. Obviously it isn't purely guessing or the same people wouldn't be dominating the competitive scene year in and year out. What you're feeling isn't uncommon though, most people quit fighting games at around your level because that's when it starts to actually get hard and make you think beyond just flailing at your controller until you get a stray hit you can convert into the same combo you've practiced a thousand times, a lot of people prefer to not have to think.
ah, so any game at all?
It's the Guilty Gear Strive™ we met along the way is the most fun.
You got to celestial dude, you basically beat the game
If you don't enjoy it then go do something else. You may get the itch again to play after some time away. It's not like playing the game is your job lol why worry about it.