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spamman5r

Enjoy your new tattoo!


Shredberry

šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ idk why someone would make that bet


Street-Animator-99

Enjoy that forehead boner šŸ˜‚


stevejr99

came here to comment this lmfao


AdOverall1676

Seriously.. Dude chose arguably the hardest start to finish track on electric guitar.


RouSGeLi

Could have gone for any techdeath song to make it even harder. No way to learn efficient enough pick technique to play that shit in such a short time


heavenIsAfunkyMoose

Please follow up with a pic of the tattoo.


elleeott

If he didn't specify tempo, play it at 1/10th speed.


Bkokane

Still probably too hard. The note placements make you have to move your fingers in whole new ways and an ā€œok fingerpickerā€ by his own definition probably will struggle to learn this in 3 months. Itā€™s like a whole new technique you have to learn.


ErnestMorrow

It's like 10 new techniques they have to learn


Reddit-is-trash-lol

I think learning pinch harmonics alone took my a few months to get down, but thatā€™s probably one of my favorite techniques


Pingj77

Follow up, if he didn't specify you had to play it on guitar, try and master the instrument: VLC player


Alex_Plode

So the hardest parts of the song IMO are: 1. that intro. It's a beast. 2. The arpeggio motif that repeats. The hand stretch required is tricky to play clean. The main melody is pretty easy and fun to play. I think you can do it. I am terrible finger picker but if you gave me four months to learn a song, I think I could do it. Good luck!


Money_Pomegranate494

The outro is also a bit of a doozy.


ConquestOfMankind

Yeah the only hard parts are really the intro, the verse, the chorus, the solo, the bridge, and the outro


donith913

Other than that how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln.


SolutionExternal5569

Other than that though it's pretty simple?


ConquestOfMankind

Yeah if you remove all those hard pieces you could definitely play it


geodebug

The comedy club I frequent in Minneapolis always plays the intro to Cliffs when the show starts. Always reminds me of how tricky that song is and how great the guitar tone was.


Guldgust

The solo


CountingArfArfs

Intro isnā€™t that bad once you get into the flow of. I learned that song probably 15 years ago and I can still rip the intro perfectly. (Probably because I fucked it up and practiced it about 700 times).


3notedrone

>So the hardest parts of the song IMO are: >1. the whole song FTFY. Jokes aside, it's really not horrible but it's taken me far longer than 4 months to get anywhere remotely close to the level of polishing this song demands.


Sad-Contribution7182

Why are you on Reddit when you should be practicing? You wonā€™t know unless you try.


AttilaRS

What is your tattoo gonna say?


diadmer

ā€œThose are the Cliffs of Insanity!ā€


b-lincoln

Inconceivable!


j-random

Anybody want a peanut?


matt7259

"Robert's Johnson" with a down arrow below the navel.


Jelly1524

Dammnn


bfhurricane

**ITā€™S ALL** cliffs of d**OVER**


AttilaRS

Always has been.


Dirks_Knee

All depends on your current level of technique and how much time you can put towards it. I can tell you the intro and solo section are going to take a significant amount of focus. Did he say you have to use a pick? I went to college with an excellent player who does it this way: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-3RTyFMrQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-3RTyFMrQ)


promised_to_veruca

open-tuned without tapping, that's pretty cool!


Shredberry

You know him in person? Wow. Can you ask him to share some of his prowess with us?


Dirks_Knee

We were in the guitar program together at the University of North Texas, it's been a long time since we hung out but I used to catch him now and then when he was gigging. He's actually retired from performing and became a doctor. EDIT: It was a crazy time to be there, [Tim Miller](https://www.youtube.com/c/TimMillerGuitar) was a grad student and one of the instructors along with [Steve Cotter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=oLomvAHnZdI) and another guy named Julian who was more a rock guy, can't remember his last name. Fun times.


Clifo

lmao man, to be in that program and play at that level and then go "you know what? that wasn't hard enough, let's go to medical school!"


Dirks_Knee

Well...that's a long story. I'm pretty sure he changed his major (I did too). Back then he was a killer 2 hand tapping player and they really frowned on that in that program. But he went into medicine years later as a result of the death of his brother from cancer. EDIT: Oddly there was another guy named Justin in our class who already had a chemistry degree and was seeking a 2nd in guitar performance.


Clifo

oh wow, what a noble reason to change his direction in life. makes me feel a little bad for making jokes about it.


Dirks_Knee

[Rhett even made a movie ](https://www.rhettbutler.org/documentary)about his fight to save his brother which eventually led to him seeking a medical degree, really an inspiring guy on many levels.


gdsmithtx

>another guy named Julian who was more a rock guy, can't remember his last name. [Julian Lage](https://www.julianlage.com/)?


Dirks_Knee

No I found him [Julien Kasper](https://college.berklee.edu/people/julien-kasper), teaches at Berklee now.


hallelalaluwah

OP might be able to get a voided wager at worst out of this if he learns this


DMRoller

That is way cool!


OtherOtherDave

Now thereā€™s a name I havenā€™t heard in a long timeā€¦ Iā€™m pretty sure he was doing all that guitar sorcery stuff thatā€™s popular now 20 years ago.


-ManDudeBro-

Sure? Put it on Rocksmith... Also print the tab into sections and focus on one at a time until you can put it together. As far as technique development that depends entirely on you.


flaccidcock

I second this. Rocksmith helped me with a good 80% of the song


RackedUP

Never heard of rocksmith before but trying to get back into guitar a bit more than I have been recently. How do you like it? Applicable for most styles or mainly electric stuff?


uptheirons726

I learned it in about two weeks but I've also been playing for 25 years. Worked on it a few hours every day.


MoreCowbellllll

I've been playing even longer than you, and it would probably take me a month to get it down. Considering working 50 hours/week and other obligations, and band, and other new songs. If I took my guitar and tab on vacation with me, alone, I could get it down in a couple weeks as well. The point of my rambling? Not much, but there's lots to consider. Enjoy the tatt, OP :)


uptheirons726

You can do it bro. Just take it piece by piece. I believe in you.


Stashmouth

If OP is asking whether it's possible in four months, there's a good chance he's been playing for far less than 25 years lol. Props to you for learning that piece in any amount of time!


phred_666

Uhā€¦ good luck with that.


GalaxyOfFun

All the wrong advice being given here OP. What you need to do is create a new Youtube account, upload a very simple and basic song to it called "Cliffs of Dover", and play that.


StupidOldAndFat

Find the tabs online and practice 12 - 16 hours a day minimum. Then youā€™ll have bloody fingers AND a new tattoo.


Sexycoed1972

That middle part between the first couple of notes and the end is pretty tricky. Do you have a public-facing job?


oldmanlearnsoldman

no. next.


AttilaRS

It's for a church, honey. Next.


oldmanlearnsoldman

i did not know what this is. and now i do. thank you.


AttilaRS

You're most welcome. Next.


Bkokane

I looked it up after your glowing review. Thanks.


raakonfrenzi

OP, is there a specific arrangement youā€™re supposed to learn? August 25th is a while away, Iā€™m sure you can do it. If you post the audio/ vid of the arrangement Iā€™ll try too so your not alone.


Bkokane

Not a chance. Iā€™ve been learning it for 3 years. Literally practicing every single day and Iā€™m still nowhere near done.


promised_to_veruca

that should be enough time unless you are novice. hope your finger stretching exercises are solid! EJ is very adept, and I'm fairly certain he uses hybrid-picking... you can hear the pick attack and free fingers for faster runs. most of the main song consists of open triad arpeggios while skipping strings, so the stretching is the toughest part. he's great at shifting neck position quickly, but he also is fairly economic, in that he will use the pinch harmonics to help reposition the drastic shifts.


RatherDashingf11

That last sentence makes this sound so daunting lol. Thatā€™s very difficult to do even slowed down, let alone at full speed.


Mitsunaoristrats

Tips. 1. Learning anything in music is a balance of knowledge and building proper muscle memory (myelination). Ensure that any practice you do is focused and slow enough to not make a single misstep along the way. Each mistake you make builds incorrect muscle memory. 2. Playing quickly is not about moving fast, but making your movements as efficient as possible. Think about how you can cut down on unneeded movements instead of tensing and trying to move your muscles quickly. 3. Doing this song finger style would be difficult, but not impossible, if you are good at tremolo fingering youā€™ll have an edge. Taking a bit of time to get comfy with hybrid picking would be beneficial, but may eat up too much time. 4. Utilize good resources like Guitar Pro. It will help you stay focused on learning phrases instead of trying to blindly play through large sections. But unless you can be diligent in this, enjoy your new tattoo and story to tell your future spouse.


_oreocakesters

LMAO hell no


billskionce

Matteo Mancuso could play it fingerstyle at 19 years old. The problem is that heā€™s Matteo Mancuso, and weā€™re not. https://youtu.be/mQlY7jwl_Us?si=zRIr6ScIr0pjFggg


CanadianJ

Sounds like youā€™re getting a tattoo


Appropriate-Dot8516

0% chance of this happening. Not hyperbole.


paumc95

better ask in r/tattoo for good numbing creams


Fart1ord

Get a metronome and start practicing picking groups of 5ā€™s lol


noiszen

First learn one note at a time. Then put them all together. Simple!


Prestige5470

Hahahahahaha, you are beyond f'ed my dude. Enjoy your tattoo.


BlvckRvses

Why are you on Reddit when you could be watching videos on YouTube on how to play it?


dirkmer

hahahahahahahaha


EventGroundbreaking4

G\_C\_D\_Am\_D\_G\_Em7 Piece of cake. There aren't even any bar chords. lol I just hope you didn't say you had to play it exactly like Eric did.


GuitarJazzer

If you've *never* used a pick, you are basically going to be learning to play the guitar all over again. This is a difficult tune even for experienced players. You might be able to do it in four months if you are really dedicated. What other stuff do you usually play? I have been playing the guitar my whole life and there are still a couple of passages that give me trouble, but OTOH I have seen [high school kids play this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3yDRw1V0-Y).


FitFineNoo

Was totally expecting a shitty sloppy cover but that was tight! Live performance too, so a million times more impressive than a bedroom cover, where you can record as many takes as you like.


BadAstroknot

This guy plays Cliffs of Dover in 1000 different styles on a hello kitty guitar and he has tabs and lessons on his Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GuitrMagic?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan https://www.instagram.com/guitrmagic?igsh=MWUyY29jb3p4YndpMA==


ronismycat

Look up Eric Johnson on Austin City Limits. And marvel at this master play with no mistakes. He's a legend.


theeyeinme

In years to come you'll realize that you learnt 2 lessons when you took that bet.


audioshrub

Start practicing now!


edpinz

Iā€™m a fairly advanced/high intermediate guitar player and this song stumped me pretty hard, especially the intro. However, if you worked at least 4 hours on it every day until August, itā€™s definitely possible. Itā€™s fuckin hard man. Good luck


butterbleek

Tattoo will say Johnson after Viagra. Just Json shrinkage in the pool. šŸ˜Ž


Positive_Top_6042

Maybe just learn instead the Slight Dropoffs of Dover?


jawnlerdoe

Literally the only song I tried to learn and couldnā€™t lol.


dolmane

Semi permanent? You mean hennaā€¦? Who cares if you lose, youā€™ll have a shit tattoo for a few days/weeks. Just go practice now so you can win anyway, but if you lose itā€™s not really a big dealio. Plus, playing cliffs is vague. You can play it note by note flawlessly orā€¦ not really flawlessly, but where to draw the line between whatā€™s acceptable or not? Just go practice!


WallSignificant5930

If ur not a shred master then this is a tall order. My advice is, guitar pro 8. Use text annotations to break into sections. Use the incremtal speed tool to practice in looped parts and learn everything slow and then faster in increasingly larger sections. Also make exercises out of parts that give you trouble. Also find some youtube covers for seeing how people move sections and change hand positions or cheat certain sections. 90% chance he tattoos you though...


LimyBirder

Yeah. . . That intro means youā€™re gettin some new ink bro.


bearlynearly

Thereā€™s a different version. Much slower https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfQjR3iU-A


gdsmithtx

Here's a valuable lesson for you: ask this question ***BEFORE you make the frickin' bet***. Enjoy your new "I šŸ’˜ Dick" neck tattoo.


Shpadoinkall

Hey at least it's not an actual tattoo. Hopefully your friend picks one that isn't too embarrassing.


Perfect-Ladder-2424

Cliffs of Dover is the song that made me decide to start playing guitar. I'm still really new to guitar and I hope to one day be able to at least play something that kinda resembles it lol, though I have no idea how long that will take, I'm not very good atm.


Uncle_dojj

Learn Clover Over Dover by Blur instead, say that's the song you thought he meant


mostfakeSLiNKY

Chop chop OP, clockā€™s ticking


BleachCup8

It took me about a month of consistent practice to get, but i had used a pick before i tried learning it lol


PootySkills

NBD, just one of the hardest electric guitar pieces ever recorded. Even just the first 30 seconds is far beyond most players' capabilities.


Impressive_Gate_5114

U have plenty of time. The intro is hard, but if u only play the main riff, it's not too hard.


Most-Royal-007

LOL, I saw EJ last year in Sac, he had a couple mistakes himself playing the intro (not major gaffs, but noticeable).


MungryMungryMippos

Itā€™s possible. Ā Spend an hour a day. Ā Your skills will increase exponentially. Ā Start small


Jilliterate

AnnualAttorney9472, you in danger, girl.


SHBDemon

Deepends. How much does he know about guitars? You can learn it in like a week if it just needs to be good enough to impress someone that doesnt have a clue but if he has a metronome and also plays guitar... Good luck soldier.


ChefSpicoli

It depends on how flexible the definition of success is. You could most likely work up a version that would be recognizable as Cliffs of Dover and feature lots of parts of the song. But to play it note for note at speed? Certainly nothing is impossible but, if you did that, you should document it because you'll become famous.


Rigormorten

Probably not.


Herald112

Check out Matteo mancuso for a ridiculous electric player not using a pick, also look into hybrid picking if you do fancy a pick! As for the playing, if your pentatonic chops are up to speed it shouldn't be awful, just need some dedicated practice to get it down!


GoodGuyJamie

Post progress vids, I wanna believe in you OP!


Element1977

August of this year?


Boomslang505

Good luck!


lucidzx

Good luck OP šŸ¤˜


Ryan_Polesmoker_68

Whatā€™s your skill level currently? Iā€™m leaning towards no.


doublewide-dingo

lol why would you agree to this


josh_e_pants

No. It took me years to be able to execute the intro well, and if I don't practice it, I need to spend a week getting it back up to speed.


MerelyStupid

What's their definition of "learn"? šŸ˜‚


milkywaybuddy

I play it without a pick, it's doable


Odie_Humanity

Your tattoo can say, "My Johnson was lacking".


crimson117

He didn't specify how/where to play it, so just play a mp3 of it.


Roachpile

Free tattoo is a free tattoo


[deleted]

When you're learning the intro, unless you know that you definitely need to work on your bends, just hold a whole step for a beat instead of doing the bend. You will practice it hundreds of times and it will destroy your fingertip.


ronismycat

yeah....good luck with that pal. There's a reason you don't see a lot of players playing this. It's really difficult even for seasoned professionals. Avoid face tattoos.


oldharrymarble

You are going to have to start by listening to it all most constantly.


LifeFeckinBrilliant

I saw an interview with Eric where he said it took him several years to master it...


VortexM19

Please dear God no make it stop. Hate that song


Marklar1138

Do you have to play it well?


HellRaiser801

Not happening, friend. Hope you like the tattoo!


RedactsAttract

I was not familiar with the song but intrigued by the replies. After reading the description of how seasoned you are as a player and then listening to the song I can say with all sincerity enjoy that tattoo my guy!


wine-o-saur

Hahahahaha


kinginthenorth78

Have you ... heard Cliffs of Dover??


Dull-Mix-870

Have you ever heard the song? Why would you take this bet?


roguevalley

Can you learn 2 measures a day? You can do it with time to spare!


New-Difficulty-9386

Look up Matteo Mancuso. Shreds harder and cleaner than anyone on the planet but can't play with a pick.


Backheelfields

That would take months to a whole year to learn


Open_Carpenter2908

You can do it. I learned classical thump by victor wooten when I was 16. Get the tablature, start slow, and learn one section at a time.


Apprehensive-Okra434

Dude...you're screwed!


Breeze_Jr

Absolutely doable. Practice your fucking ass off. 2 hours a day AT LEAST


xeroksuk

One way or another, this going to be a learning experience.


MyboiHarambe99

I found the fingerpicking lick that repeats to be easy enough after a day. The intro is either you have the hands for it or you donā€™t


majorDm

If you canā€™t already shred, and I mean, clean shred. Youā€™re doomed.


Chaps_Jr

Looks like r/guitarcirclejerk is leaking again


Ziggysan

Absolutely possible.Ā  The main riffs are pretty simple, solos a bit more challenging.Ā Ā  Ā Use. A. Metronome. Eric Johnson is pretty tight on time.Ā Ā  Ā (Also, make sure you have the terms of success set down and clearly elucidated so you know what you need to focus on.) Start slow, get every note right at half or even a quarter-speed and then increase speed slowly until you hit the right tempo. FingerpickingĀ will be fine.


Billycatnorbert

Does it have to be the whole song?


OreoDrinker

Quite literally one of the most difficult pieces of music to play on guitar ever. You are cooked, my friend.


JMSpider2001

Hope you like that tattoo


FourHundred_5

Haha unless youā€™re already at the level to play that song, then youā€™re fucked lol.


DarthBaio

I can sort of play the melody (electric), but man, sliding around with my pinky is not a technique Iā€™ve ever needed on any other song. Also, was there any stipulation that you canā€™t just pick a single note at a time at whatever tempo you want? Make him sit there for a full 2-hour performance šŸ„ø


Couch_pugtato

Considering itā€™s April you could but that depends on your skill level. And how much of the song he wants you to learn


copremesis

Good luck


LaximumEffort

As a benchmark, I was playing for 30 years (rock, metal, fingerstyle, folk, Iā€™m generally regarded as a very good player) before I started it for real, and it took me 13 months to get a good take.


pdmalo

Cliffs of D'OH!!


InternetSam

You have over 4 months. Break it up bit by bit and learn each section. Start at a suuuuper slow tempo. Learn a section at that super slow tempo and slowly build up speed. Once you can do a section at speed, move on to the next section. Repeat. You got this.


camo1902

Lmfao this has to be BS. If legit it could be the most arrogant bet Iā€™ve ever seen. Hope it pans out for you, but unless you are being extremely modest and your ā€˜okay fingerpickingā€™ is actually Matteo Mancuso level, youā€™re going to have a bad time here. One does not just start playing with a pick and learn Eric Johnson licks šŸ˜‚


Fluffy_Meat1018

Lol, good luck with THAT!


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

lmao outjerked by the cosmos


Adventurous_Week_101

>Iā€™ve never used a pick. >I need to learn cliffs of dover by august 25th Remember to follow up with your new tattoo pic in august!


KaceyJaymes

Doubtful. Pinch harmonics bedevil players for \*years\*, LOL. Even on a nylon, it's gonna be rough: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gbAbk6ES8A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gbAbk6ES8A)


Freewheelinrocknroll

Put on the CD and finger-synch!! Otherwise follow up with us with pictures of the tattoo!


onionkisa

LOL. It's one of most difficult solo there is .. just the intro with hybrid picking going to take a while


LJIrvine

The whole song? What tattoo do you think he'll pick for you?


[deleted]

At least you can finger pick the opening yā€™all know what Iā€™m talking about. Eric uses a pick and his ring finger. Iā€™ve been trying for years to do that and nope. Iā€™ll alt pick tyvm


NZImp

How good a musician is your friend? If they aren't all that good you could play the bones of it and they may not know.


Tough_Conclusion3221

Matteo Mancuso covers it nicely fingerstyle [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQlY7jwl\_Us&ab\_channel=MatteoMancuso](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQlY7jwl_Us&ab_channel=MatteoMancuso)


OffBeatBerry_707

Good luck mah boy.


mowatera

Only guitarist I know that can nail CoD flawlessly without a pick is Matteo Mancuso. So itā€™s humanly possible. Bad news for you my friend, is that you are not Matteo Mancuso.


jeharris56

You can learn it--badly.


Guitars_n_Gravel

It matters on your current ability. If you are an intermediate level player, you can do it. Spend 2 hours a day on the song.


Waste-Account7048

The whole song? Or just the main riff?


hooligan99

Do you have to play the whole song at full speed? If you can get away with just doing the chorus at like .75 speed, itā€™s doable and might be convincing enough


golbezza

You didn't say "On the Guitar", despite the sub... Perhaps just a stream will do played from your phone? If hat doesn't fly... Guitar hero?


WMHamiltonII

It's possible you're about to have a peen on your face. EJ's CoD is one of the hardest pieces for even the best guitarists. If you have to ask, there's no way you can do it.


_nathata

!remindme 3 months


generalissimus_mongo

Semi-permanent? Wuss.


ryanoceros666

If youā€™ve never used a pick the only possible way I can see is if you can figure out how to play it fongerstyle.


Thick-Pattern-5614

Piece of cake annual attorney unless you want a Homer Simpson tattoo on your folded arm


rab0oo

Does the bet specify on what type of guitar? If not, play it on Guitar Hero 3 on easy


ControllerAvi

Offer to double or nothing the bet by learning Solfeggietto or get a permanent tattoo.


Nuggets155

Phew thatā€™s a bad bet bro


SqueekyCheekz

Good enough teacher/money/time.. maybe???? But prolly not no


smilingphilfox

You fucked up son.


SnooMarzipans436

I've been playing for 18 years and I still can't play that intro. Enjoy your new tattoo šŸ¤£


Jhubsley

Lot of naysayers in the comments, but I believe you can do it. You'll have to work on it every single day most likely, but there are plenty of online lessons that will show you, note by note, how to play the song. Just follow along, start slowly, play to a metronome, learn one section/measure/lick/note at a time, and incrementally increase the tempo. Spend a couple of hours on it every day, and who knows? You might surprise everyone. It would be really cool if you logged your progress in a series of YouTube videos, too.


_8dave

On Guitar Hero maybe


ChubbyMcHaggis

Spend less time posting. More time practicing. Also no more sleep


CaptGoodvibesNMS

Pray he does not target your face. Thatā€™s an insane piece of guitar mastery. Good luck!


THEDRDARKROOM

So you're selling your dignity to have a social interaction? I remember when my guitar player friends would try to power play me out of jealousy.


bzee77

Practice every single night. I dedicated myself to learning this over Covid (been playing nearly 40 years). Months of dedicated practice, got about 75% through, never really all the way up to speed, and definitely not clean enough. Iā€™ve actually been meaning to revisit it. Good luck.


_soos_

Learn the bass line. You said you will learn the song, but did you exactly said every guitar note?


pysgod-wibbly_wobbly

Following. Please show us pictures of your new tattoo


4me2kn0wAz

Maybe try for the love of god on a les Paul lol ur screwed bub lol


fistfucker07

How is your sweep picking and arpeggios? What about your harmonics? And your, well fuck, this song uses every technique that exists. So practice those and youā€™ll be fine.


potzko2552

1:30 a day and I can do it People romanticize difficulty... Don't be afraid to cheat a bit, a lot of times thinking how YOU prefer to play a passage will make it 3 - 4 times easier


ConclusionAdorable45

I wish you mercy from your friend because unless your name is actually Mateo Mancuso, your never going to nail cliffs of dover with your fingers alone in 90 days.


Darthalzmaul

Just learn it on Bass or Guitar Hero


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

Does it have to be on a real guitar? Because you could totally do this on Guitar Hero 3