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basedsims

I don’t think he will want to leave the club this summer


Amberle73

I doubt he would want to go to Saudi at least, that would effectively put the nail in the coffin for his Brazil career.


Sal1017

Given his Knee situation he may think this is the last chance for a mega pay check. He comes from an underprivileged background, i bet he looks after a lot of family as well, pretty sure he did some insfastructure projects in his childhood favella as well


Fleetfox17

I think you're being very presumptive about his knee injury. There is no indication that this is a career on the line thing. To me it seemed like he was saying he's always pushed himself to play and not worried about his injuries as much, and this summer is the first time he won't push himself to play above everything else, but focus on getting his knee as healthy as possible.


Locogooner

Jesus is an explosive player and bad knees don't really ever fully recover. Especially for forwards. Cristiano had to completely change his playing style to manage his bad knees. R9 was never the same have his knees got blown out. Jesus is nowhere near their level so bad knees could really impact his career imo.


Fleetfox17

It really isn't the same situations though. First off, obviously knee injuries aren't great, but we can't compare totally different situations. R9 had his injury 24 years ago, and it was probably the worst knee injury an athlete can have (ruptured both the tendons in kneecaps). Cristiano has a degenerative knee condition that means the collagen on his knee is slowly disappearing, which again isn't great. Jesus had neither of those things happen, he had a meniscus tear, and then a cleanup of the area (which is relatively common after tearing a meniscus), obviously still not ideal, but nowhere near the level of the two injuries you mentioned. For example, Luis Suarez tore his meniscus he was 27, and he still went on to have a great prime of his career. Every player's situation is different. I trust the club medical staff has a good idea of what the condition of Jesus' knees are and what it says about his future in the squad.


LesBrandals

R9 was never the same, but it is a testament to how amazing he was as a player that he was still able to change his game to not rely only on his speed. Without his injuries, I reckon he could be the best forward ever that played the game.


hobocommand3r

He's not explosive anymore. He looks slow when sprinting. He is still agile when changing directions on the ball but he looks slow off it these days.


ixikzisigwvbend

tbf Neymar plays in saudi


Jewrisprudent

It’s a testament to how much that league kills your career that I completely forgot Neymar was still playing anywhere at all.


arbitraryusername314

Isn’t that more so due to his injury record as of the last five years? I didn’t have much recollection of his PSG days either


US__Grant

that in part but also Ligue 1 is so fundamentally imbalanced with PSG being so dominant, even more so than Bayern in Bundesliga, it simply takes the weight of winning that league entirely away.


beetletoman

I really really hope he stays. We need him


WeezingTiger

Yeah. I mean, we will have to look over the numbers if there is ANY truth to this, but ultimately, as soon as we sell him, we are immediately looking for a player to replace him. And as much has he hasn’t started a ton since the WC injury, he has still played a fair amount of minutes. We hear people say we need an outside forward or whatever, losing him will ,immediately and potentially catastrophically require some sort of replacement. Who knows though, maybe the money will be good enough to replace him and add improve the squad. I won’t hold my breath though, Jesus is an excellent player, it’s a shame he is really fighting his body.


apb2718

We need someone who scores goals


beetletoman

Need is a strong word in context


apb2718

We need an out and out goalscorer so we can be more versatile, we can’t just play a false 9 all the time


Ill-Opportunity5714

That has to be the way though. Mikel has stated his belief that about 90 goals are needed to win the league. There aren't enough Haalands out there to get the lion's share of that. You need 5 players pushing 15 goals plus the random dozen from elsewhere. It also removes a single point of failure if said primary striker gets injured.


apb2718

Yeah no doubt, but having a 25-30 goal striker is absolutely what we should be aiming for because we're pushing for both CL and the league


Ill-Opportunity5714

Currently at 88 goals 2 games to play, so it's just about coming out sound reasoning. We already have 3 players at the level: Saka (16) Tross (11) Kai (12), with plenty of upside potential. So certainly could use another goalscorer-profile, but I'm not sure it has to exclusively be a striker/9


beetletoman

Havertz Doesn't play false 9. I feel like Messi-Ronaldo and now Haaland skewed people's perception. 15-20 goals are the norm


apb2718

He’s not really a true CF either. If anything, Haaland is a true CF.


beetletoman

Guess we can agree to disagree here. I don't see the need for a Haaland type CF


apb2718

They won a treble in that style man, how can you even say that


beetletoman

Because it's Haaland and not a Haaland type CF. I'm pretty sure Pep would never go for Toney. But when you have an opportunity to sign Haaland, you make adjustments


GeniuslyMoronic

They also had a 98 point season without him.


RyansKorea

We should be looking to upgrade him imo. If we can replace him with someone who is at least available most of the year it's a big improvement to the squad


beetletoman

There is no upgrade to Jesus lol you'll have to find a different profile


Sayek

I'd say it depends on his knee. If the club knows his knee is fucked and want to cash in. The player could realise it's time to get a massive final contract and ease into retirement.  If he feels his knee is fine and he can come back to full fitness. I agree he might not want to go. Regardless of the offer. 


americanadiandrew

Not a chance. Guy lives to play for Brazil. He’s not going to a retirement league at 27.


atrde

True but also may realize his time for Brazil is up. Likely won't be on the next WC team.


_serious__

Lmao wut


atrde

I don't see Jesus being in the 2026 World Cup lineup. He isn't a starter and I don't see the knee getting much better. Already behind Richarlison, Joao Pedro actually looks pretty good and Roque is coming up as well so not playing striker. Isn't better than Raphina or Rodrygo on the right. Isn't taking Vinicius's place on the left and you have Pepe, Lino and Savio there as well. Even Martinelli is going to struggle to get into the tournament (if they make it) on his current form he's dropped off a good bit.


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Yes I’m sure Martinelli’s “current form” (coming off an extended injury absence) will persist into 2026, and I’m sure Jesus’ versatility and creativity will be overlooked by a Brazilian team that values both things. What an inane take to show you get all your Arsenal takes from pundits instead of actually watching a game or two.


atrde

Ok Martinelli missed 8 games total lets not oretend like thats the reason he hasn't improved in key areas like dribbling with his head up its still a major issue. The reason he is benched is because outside of speed he doesn't offer a lot and is constantly turning the ball over running headfirst into defenders everyone can see it and his form is because of this. Also its not even an argument the Martinelli is the 3rd best LW on Brazil and shouldn't even be taken as am insult there are just better wingers. Jesus has literally never been a key part of the Brazil team so I don't know why you think they would suddenly rate him.


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Jesus has the second most caps of active Brazilian forwards/wingers behind Neymar, so I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about. Martinelli is 22. There are very few NTs that start U23s. After going from a 5mil to 80mil player in four years, you really don’t think he’ll get better. If Martinelli hasn’t improved in two years, then something went very wrong along the way.


atrde

Look when his starts were lol. Were talking about 2024 not 2018 he isn't the starter anymore neither is Neymar at this point. I don't guarantee Martinelli will get better players very rarely get linearly better over their careers. Its not an issue of development certain players will just always carry certain bad habits. Also Tranfmrkt values mean nothing there have been dozens of highly rated players who were worthless years later.


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He started the last two World Cup qualifiers he was healthy for and was the first forward off the bench for the other qualifiers in 2023 while recovering from his season-ending injury. Are you stupid or do you just enjoy spewing bullshit?


atrde

He is already coming off the bench for them and there is a reason they look pretty poor with him upfront. I really don't believe he is the starter in 2 years he is already on the way out for them.


TheFlyingHokie

People giving you shit for this, but I can see him not being as involved depending on how the other upcoming forwards develop. Endrick, Roque, Marcos Leonardo, etc are developing, Diniz and Tite both seemed to prefer Richarlison over Jesus, and the Seleção is currently having a goalscoring problem, Jesus not scoring much has always been spoken about in the Brazilian community (only Brazil #9 in history not to score a single WC goal) Feel for Gabi too as he will have to find a way to start over Vini (though Vini is usually disappointing for the Seleção)


YouDontGotOzil

300 million and he's yours


Routine_Size69

I would be nice and give them a 100 million discount off of that.


YouDontGotOzil

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vulgrin

Tree fiddy.


ProcrastinationNock

100M?


JabInTheButt

Gotta feel he's too young and too motivated to take a Saudi move


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CarnifexGunner

Mate he's on 250k~ a week, that IS life changing money. He's way too motivated to play for Brazil to be heading off to Saudi at 27 years of age.


Oltjen

Hé can earn double that in Saudi. Plus theres no taxes there iirc.


unclebrenjen

There's more to life than money. Maybe wife doesn't want to live in a place where women are property 🤷‍♂️


Magicallyshit

Basically what happened to Henderson family, they simply do not enjoy their stay in Dubai lmao There's only so much you can do it that country anyway


NiallMitch10

Tbf - Henderson was getting up in age and still had the security of a clueless Southgate still picking him for internationals


obsterwankenobster

He also never got paid lmao


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CarnifexGunner

I think you are vastly overestimating his knee injury at this point. It's not the 90's where Marco van Basten had to retire at 28 due to recurring ankle injuries. Like Jesus himself has said, he might need surgery again to fix the remaining issue, and after that he might very well be back to his very best. There will also definitely be big European clubs looking to sign him, even if there's a bit of risk involved with him fitness wise. Just look at his [FBREF](https://fbref.com/en/players/b66315ae/Gabriel-Jesus) profile, a lot of you seem to have forgotten just how insanely good Jesus is when he's on it. So I can guarantee you there will be a big club out there willing to take their chances with a 27 year old Jesus.


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CarnifexGunner

If you don't see 150k a week as life changing money then I don't know what to tell you. Not every footballer is just looking at their wage when it comes to deciding where they want to play. Jesus absolutely loves playing for Brazil, he will not jeopardize that by going to Saudi.


okcomput3r

He’s already earned life changing money lol. 


acasovoycayendo

You realise most athletes play with pain right? Just because he is it doesn’t mean he’s only got a couple of years left in him


Chupagley13

Wed finally know how it feels to be a Liverpool or Chelsea getting an insanely inflated transfer fee then talk about net spend.


Rolex_throwaway

Absolutely not.


Sal1017

If its good money fine, but i think we should keep him otherwise. He hasnt been scoring but he has still had impressive performances of late and has an x factor we lack and can’t easily replace


WheelIllustrious9

There’s like 5-6 other players who need to be sold before Jesus, I agree with you wholeheartedly.


BrianThatDude

I am in the camp of wanting to keep Jesus. I think he's a perfect impact player along with trossard who can play across the front line. That said, if Saudi is offering us big money for him and Jesus is willing to go (I'd be a bit surprised if he wanted this) I think it's one of those market opportunities you have to take. Maybe that gives us the money we need to bring in isak


lukas90m

Arteta knows about his health, other clubs too. I don't believe this story.


NegativeHeli

They can have Al-Nobody if they aren't paying up


radhumandummy

I assume they've shortlisted him to be their marquee signing for when they play in the pro league for next year then


Fieser_Factsack

Depends on the money, i think for 80+ we should let him go. I don't see him and Zinny wanting to move. But maybe if Jesus gets 400k+ a week he would consider it.


maidentaiwan

“80+” oh boy here we go again, nothing quite like arsenal fans and wildly overestimating the market value of our players. I reckon we’d take someone’s hand off for anything over 40m. He is on huge wages and his fitness is a big risk on the back of an injury plagued season.


rubberpencilhead

He probably means Saudi money. Not the money in the real world that anyone else would pay.


maidentaiwan

We will let him go for far less than 80m, and knowing that, the Saudis won’t be dumb enough to offer that much.  There will be some big learnings from last summer. It won’t be the same free for all this time around.


Fieser_Factsack

Maybe before you comment, check what the saudis payed last summer for players that have been written off in europe. They payed 90+ for 31 year old Neymar. 60+ million for relative nobodies Malcom and Otavio. 55+ million for 26 year old Ruben Neves who was passed on by all the big 6 before. If anyone overpays it's the Saudis.


maidentaiwan

You’re not really citing Neymar as a serious comp, right? The marketing value of Neymar is orders of magnitude beyond what Jesus gives them. The other players you cite are better comps, but they’re still not perfect. Malcom certainly not a “nobody,” he just happened to be playing in Russia, where he was easily the best player in the league after joining from Barcelona. Neves and Otavio meanwhile were on wayyyy lower wages than Jesus. Given any club will have to match and probably better his arsenal wage packet, the fee will be lower. This is more akin to the Koulibaly signing. If an offer comes I suspect it will be short of 50m.


Fieser_Factsack

I said 31 year old Neymar. Gabriel Jesus is still extremely competitive and will get plenty of playtime with us if we don't sell him. I'm done arguing as it's leading nowhere here. Saudis are willing to overpay and we are not at all in a need of selling Jesus. Peace Out.


maidentaiwan

Are you dense?  The Neymar signing, as I pointed out in my last response, has nothing to do with his ability and everything to do with his brand value. Congrats on addressing absolutely nothing I spelled out for you. Clearly this transfer business is a bit complex for some.


Franchise1109

Fuck no. He’s still a great versatile experience squad member. Involved him in the wing rotation next year.


Muscat95

Depends on the offer, I think he can be a useful player for us


44cprs

I wouldn't do it for less than 100M.


Sheikhspeare24

Backed by Aramco? You mean the states oil reserves and company? Watch him get loaned out to Newcastle if they lose Isak.


Flabby-Nonsense

Nah. I have my criticisms of Jesus but he’s still valuable to us even if he’s not a nailed on starter. Plus you never know, he might regain his pre-injury form.


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I would cash in on him now whilst his transfer value is still there; Havertz and any potential summer striker signing will share most of the minutes, I don’t see Jesus getting much playtime and I think he’s on a downward trend since his last injury


BIG_FICK_ENERGY

I continue to believe Jesus is already the depth we are looking for across all 3 forward positions, and selling him would be a mistake.


after8man

Jesus did the hard work and gave the assist for our third goal v Bournemouth , that was just sublime. Love that guy. Don't sell him to oily cunts


RIP200712

I have a feeling everyone is rushing to pass the judgement on Holy Gabi based on the last couple of years. But he’s only on the path to recovery now after all the surgeries. Athletes tend to recover really well now a days given all the medical science advancements. And if his knee is back to full strength then is too valuable a player to be sold.


darkgreenrabbit

I assume he'd have to change his surname too then, no?


Lefty2Gunz81

Gabriel Isa should do it!


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bossmanA

My cousins name is literally Issa, idk why ppl think we hate Jesus he is one of the most respected prophets in Islam


chostax-

It’s called ignorance


darkgreenrabbit

see my response to the above commenter. and stop being ignorant yourself.


chostax-

Okay Father Dumbass


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darkgreenrabbit

>Judeo-Christian no such thing


PutYrDukesUp

Get this shit the fuck out of here.


darkgreenrabbit

how about a counter argument


chostax-

“Not to start a religious debate” *starts a religious debate*


bossmanA

Fuckin reddit bro I swear 😭


bossmanA

When did Prophet Muhammad 'unleash a war' against Christians? He literally sent Khalid ibn al-Walid to Najran to protect Christian's ability to practice their religion under Islamic government.


Rolex_throwaway

It’s a joke…


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Rolex_throwaway

Slow indeed. They don’t tolerate other religions, and symbols and artifacts of other religions are illegal there, so it’s a bit of a juxtaposition for a guy named Jesus to go there.


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Rolex_throwaway

Oh, so you’re A LOT more than slow. This is like the Nazis and KKK who say “aren’t you supposed be tolerant” when people hate them.   There is nothing bigoted about this, and if anyone here is ignorant, it’s you. This isn’t about the Muslim religion, this is about Saudi government actions. Actions that are unique in even the Muslim world.  Edit: I’m curious, did you know that the Saudis publicly behead someone an average of every other day? And that they sometimes publicly crucify the headless body after?


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Rolex_throwaway

We can joke about serious things, like silly little juxtapositions.


bossmanA

Pls try harder to hide ur muslim hate boner mate


Rolex_throwaway

I didn’t say anything about Muslims, I said things about the Saudi government. Did I say anything untrue? Would it be wrong if we implemented similar policies here, but in reverse?


darkgreenrabbit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/xwBd3CkjND


kindaforgotit

From now on he will be called Muhammad Jibril


MaliciousPotatoes

Jibril Issa


Gooner_93

Jesus has been a good player, he has played his part but it's time for us to get some of that saudi money, tbh. Hopefully we make them pay a decent amount, though.


Rolex_throwaway

No, they can keep it.


ElecticMad

Can they take Nketiah instead?


a_posh_trophy

That'll be £100m.


normott

I don't think he's gonna wanna leave Europe at this point in his career


Mojave_Patroller

Nope, still our best striker


Travisntscott

I mean for the right price i’d sell him but i highly doubt he wants to move to saudi rn


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el-fenomeno09

It depends on the offer, he really fits with this squad especially being able to play across the front 3. Even if he’s not starting at striker, he can and will make an impact and yes he needs to work on finishing.


TheArsenal04

silly saudi money just means, say, an arsenal 80m summer target suddenly becomes 120m


tuananhtran191911

He would never leave for Saudi, but who knows.


MoreoverMo

For all the strikers we are linked with none of them are on jesus' level. You may convince yourself that they score goals but they don't do it in an arsenal system. They get way too much space. And are at best one season wonders or actuallyscore as many as jesus without the other tricks he has in his bag like versatility and the fact he makes everyone better. Are also one position ponies. I would be more interested in a right winger who has more pace, guile and ball manipulation than Saka. That means we have legitimate squad depth for him to rest and also for him improve in those departments.


Du713

Never have I ever thought that my local club who just got promoted from the 2nd division would be in for Arsenal players who are considered in their prime. Certianly a glitch


blackwraythbutimpink

Saudi second tier man how is this not fake


vedantk21

what is this Football Manager ahh headline


biglockkk

Al-Quesadilla


Drogueba

Al-Quesadilla


cappo40

130m you oil fucks


ArsenalThePhoenix

make it happen, if they pay up!


Jaded_Collection_716

☹️


Fernandov2

Remember when edu went to Saudi for a meeting. Now we know why.


MelandrusApostle

Sounds a lot like al Queda 


AhhBisto

If they come in with a good offer we have to be rational and look at it, but the problem with a lot of the Saudi teams is that they offer shit transfer fees in comparison to the wages they offer players, I think Neymar at £80m was the highest transfer and after that Otavio for around £50m. Whether or not he has the desire to go there is another story but it hasn't hurt the international careers of others who have gone to Saudi as much as people have predicted. If they offered us £90m for him and we can reinvest it back in the team then I'd begrudgingly accept it.


likpoper

70 mln


absolut_didalo

Might be good for him, he’ll be in a weaker league so he can ease and rehab his knee for a couple of years and he’ll still be young enough to get a move to a top 5 European league


FactCheckYou

i get the uncomfortable feeling that we actually will sell one of our players to Saudi sooner rather than later no Arsenal player under contract should really want to go there though if Cedric or Elneny want to go there once they're free agents, that's probably understandable


lurking4everr

Show me that oil money😍


tbbt11

I’d realistically take 70m but we’re not getting anywhere near that


Oppailover69

We are about to taste that Saudi money fr


hans_erlend

Yes!! Yeeeeeeeesssssss. Do it. Do it!


ShiroiMaou

Pls do