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There are widely accepted rumours that they will sell a marquee name to accommodate the numbers Mbappe comes with. See it another Ozil, Bale situation.
The names have bounced from Valverde, Cama and Rodrygo.
2/3 Clasicos this season ended with a last minute winner.
Now while Mbappé is obviously an insane addition, Kroos is also leaving. And anyone who watches Real Madrid knows Kroos is the essence of the way Real Madrid plays over the past decade. He IS the one who controls everything, who slows and speeds up the play, who plays with the tempo as he likes. Kroos and Modric are the ones who control everything Real Madrid does.
And now he is retiring, so personally i can easily see Barca competing
fair point, but real madrid already have a good young core of midfielders to take over the reigns, and i think Jude will also start going back to his no.8-role instead of bombing forward as a striker.
Having Modric for another season should also help them out. If both Kroos and Modric left, then yea it a big handicap for them.
Im just going with hipster picks. Anyone got opinions on those 2 young potential Strikers?
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Obviously Thiago is injured. Konate seems to be chased by all bigger Bundesliga clubs.
Oh you're right, that's the guy. I know we don't rate toneys character but if we get him to trossard conditions, why not? If Brentford already signed his replacement.
https://x.com/partidazocope/status/1797765332167451122
If that is true then it's reek United or Chelsea. Also Omorodion looked pretty good in his loan spell
The fact that people are creaming over Wharton (rightfully so) makes me sad that Wilshere wasn’t around now that fans in general are more football literate. He would have made these new gens look meady.
Could only imagine how good he would be in a midfield of Rice and Bellingham.
Not really, amount of stupid takes skyrocketing. 10 years ago if someone criticize midfielder of Ode productivity he will be treated as nutcase. Now some sheeps of people would think "huh, maybe it's valid opinion"
It's a realistic part of debating.
The NNT guy on Twitter usually tables names like Osimhen, De Jong, Diomande, and Neves. That's like £300M. Not even considering the wage and agent burdens.
The realistic way is knowing that Arsenal can almost afford 2 big names in a window. 2 is the anomaly but it happened last window.
So people can mentally allocate £100M to Bruno, and £65M to Sesko. Instead of £100M to Bruno and £120M to Osimhen.
It's a realistic part of debating.
The NNT guy on Twitter usually tables names like Osimhen, De Jong, Diomande, and Neves. That's like £300M. Not even considering the wage and agent burdens.
The realistic way is knowing that Arsenal can almost afford 2 big names in a window. 2 is the anomaly but it happened last window.
So people can mentally allocate £100M to Bruno, and £65M to Sesko. Instead of £100M to Bruno and £120M to Osimhen.
No sensible club is paying that much for a “prolific goal scorer” that only had 20+ goals in a single in their entire career whilst being injury prone. Seskos allows us to facilitate buying another winger or spend bigger on midfield.
He won the league, ended a 30+ league drought, that's exactly the player we want. The only problem his fee is ridiculous, like even before Declan Rice.
You’re acting like he single handedly won them the league. He had an incredible season alongside kvara and kim min jae. He’s an 80m player max, a quality LCM is more crucial
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I'd put Barkley Wilshere Carrick Gomes in this category but he's mostly right.
Picture this.
We are the only club in for a certain player with a high release clause who’s got his foot out the door already. Player wants the move, coach wants his replacement in. We want the best deal we can get given these conditions
Do you chase him like a desperate crush in high school or do you bait that you’re negotiating for another player who’s future is going to be decided in the next two weeks so that the selling club wants to play ball by your terms before it’s too late?
The downside of finishing up our business early is that we have to now focus on on our upcoming season instead of chasing every Target we could find
Did I say downside? Sorry wrong word
In that case Napoli is left with no suitors for an unhappy striker (and coach), and we get Sesko who we still highly rate, not exactly a bad thing for us is it?
Certainly far from a bad option, not like we’re telling everyone we wanna bring lacazette back lol
Now that we’re the most attractive option why not try this?
After Bayern winning the 12/13 champions Leaguez it being reported that Robert lewandowski wasn't going to sign a new contract with Dortmund and leave on a free (with no lack of gossip that he was headed to Bayern) and that they just signed Gotze, and also just announced pep guardiola was going to manage the next season, Alan shearer justifiably felt that they were going to rule Europe for the next 5 years. Sounded true but they ended up making exactly zero cl finals in that time period.
Tbh a lot of that 12/13 Bayern team were relatively old. Schweinsteiger was 28 and he fell off not long after, Ribery and Robben were both 30, Lahm was 29 and Kroos left a season after.
This Real Madrid team has Lunin (25), Militao (26), Tchouameni (24), Camavinga (21), Brahim (24), Valverde (25), Guler (19), Jude (20), Endrick (18), Rodrygo (23), Mbappé (25) and Vini (23).
Although a Champion League title would be nice with these core of guys. The goal should be the Premier League. Real Madrid made UCL dreadful. I want the EPL title cause it means they did better than Man City. Plus the EPL trophy is a better looking trophy anyways 😌
I do want the Champions League, believe me. But how the UCL plays out including the shit draw that we always get. I wouldn’t be too upset if we lost. Let me rephrase, Arsenal should go for both. But I think Arsenal winning EPL is more likely.
Arteta would get a statue at some point, even if he won nothing else at Arsenal but just one CL.
A league title would take the total from 13 to 14, it's not as significant as winning the biggest European club trophy for the first time.
We should always aim for both comps anyway, as a big club should do. I don't understand your take.
I know Arsenal hasn’t won the UCL, so that makes it a more desirable trophy to most. I think UCL is officiated differently and it’s a crap shoot more so than anything. Premier League teams competing in UCL are already at a disadvantage with the scheduling compared to the other leagues. Not to mention, it depends on the luck of the draw. Arsenal always get a shitty draw. At least with EPL it’s 38 games from August to May. No luck, just consistency needed. Not to mention winning the trophy in front of the home crowd too. Just my opinion
About the shit draw, the team just need to give their everything instead of give in just to focus on the league. That's not a proper winning mentality.
I love him, i really do believe he is the biggest victim of Artetas posession obsession. Because we have less quick transitions and if we do we often wait for the restdefence to form instead of pushing through. I really want him to be our starter but he either needs to adept better to what Arteta wants or he must be given more freedom and transition opportunities.
I think Arsenal should go for Kvaratskhelia at Napoli. Conte's gonna be their new coach and I don't think either of them would want to be in each other's plans. He'll be mindblowing in LW.
I agree man but i also want Bowen who we won't move for either unfortunately. Kvara would be unbelievable as a two footed option. Could play everywhere.
Non of our current wingers have exceptional pace (except maybe Martinelli). And it isn't required when we control a game, pace can only be abused in transitions but we don't get much of transitions without being at least one goal ahead. Btw. im not saying Trossard, Saka, Jesus or Nelson are slow. A quick winger would be Mudryk, Sané or Johnson.
Definitely unrealistic but yeah. Kvara on the left and Saka on the right. Havertz as false 9. We’d be scoring for fun at that point. Like others are saying though, it wouldn’t be great for Martinelli obviously and doubt we’d spend that much just to upgrade him when he still hasn’t hit his ceiling.
Martinelli - One incredible season, one season marred by a couple injuries and lack of a cohesive attack on his side
Kvaratskhelia - One incredible season, one season marred by injury and lack of consistency in the team
But Martinelli has hit his ceiling and Kvaratskhelia would be “mind blowing.” Ok man. Shiny new toy syndrome.
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Even if it's for France, this is a terrible take.
Saliba's most glaring weakness is playmaking from the back. It's exactly why despite Upamecano's bozo moments, he's still the first choice.
Everything else, he's the perfect player.
After a certain point other clubs have to accept that Real Madrid have the best attackers in the world. You can’t find better ones, so to beat them you need other ways. Buying the best defenders and stopping those attacks is one way.
Well, I’ve just had a look and:
Real Madrid - 87 in the league, 127 all comps.
Arsenal - 83 in the league, 110 all comps.
So we aren’t too far off. If we get even better defenders and concede fewer goals and chances, the 110 goals we score will yield us more points.
I don't really care to debate this. But its proven time and again factually that the best teams score the most.
Also it's much easier to upgrade the personnel in our attack then in our defence. Our top scorer has 16 goals.
I think focusing on youth and the best prospects is better than hoarding average experienced players, which is exactly what Real did. Sesko and Doue, if we get them, are a step in the right direction.
It is also funny you are downplaying defenders because for me that might be the only other area where we can get real quality for great prices this window. If we can't fix the other areas, then we might as well fix the defense once and for all and then when an opportunity opens up in attack, we'll be in a better place to take advantage.
I'd like to also point out that Real didn't fix any goalscoring problem by going all out on a striker last summer, but instead pushed their marquee midfielder forward.
Defenders are always cheaper than attackers cause attackers are more important.
Young defenders need to play. Diomande coming here is career suicide for him. Hato could make sense. but he also just renewed his deal. I don't see how that fee will be favourable
That has more to do with marketing and demands. Currently defensive midfielders are the most expensive players because they are in high demands and low supply. Attackers are easier marketable so they will always be more expensive. Every kid wants the shirt of the guy that scored the goal in the game they were watching.
ESR is more well rounded. Vieira has potential because his technique is nice, but his overall game is severely lacking in some areas. For example in the "off the ball"-game ESR blows Vieira out of the park, it's no contest. Also ESR got better runs and is overall more versatile. I like Vieira, not sure he can make it in england currently, maybe he would be better in a team that plays more in transition than we do.
I like Vieira a lot and he is the only one that really naturally covers Odegaard's position but I would say ESR has a better track history with us (provided his fitness is deemed good enough going forward)
Not sure why he isn’t top target personally, has everything you could want in a 9. Him and Havertz rotating is a dream. Must just be a financial thing.
The Napoli owner is like top dog at getting top dollar for everybody he has under contract. Everybody pays up even if what they get in return is a disappointing spell playing now. I can understand the hesitation
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Roughly. Rest would be under £5k a week.
He said they have interest in him. But the rumour is Sesko would join us over anyone else and since there's a release clause we will almost definitely sign him if he's our main guy.
Wait, Douglas Luiz?? Considering I was expecting something closer to 75-80m pounds that sounds fantastic. Get a Luiz and a Fofana for 80m euros total and we have our midfield set I think.
Well I'm just commenting on what the other guy said. As I already mentioned - I expect around 80m pounds (not euros) minimum, probably depending on the buyer.
No UK based outlet/itk has linked us with Osimhen (at least not this window).
It’s all just Napoli and his agent using Arsenal to stir up interest in Osimhen.
Meanwhile the UK based guys like Watts and Cross are definitively saying Sesko is the target.
Watts basically said as such on his most recent video.
Who insisted that? Arteta for the one game against Villa?
Other credible journos have said that once Havertz started banging them in, and we hit our stride, that our plans to buy a big ticket striker changed.
Watts has said this over and over again “don’t expect a superstar signing. Expect floor raisers”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4yLqm4TLUx4
Here’s his video today where he talks about Osimhen.
So the laundry list of British journos and others saying banging the Sesko drum are all full of shit, but a TNAT tweet from 7 months ago when circumstances were materially different is the word of god lol. Okay
Eh, they’ve still called a few of our transfers beforehand in the past couple seasons.
It’s not even that the UK guys aren’t saying anything about Osimhen, it’s the fact that pretty much every guy we think has connections into the clubs (TNAT, Watts, Delaney, Cross, etc) are all beating the drum for Sesko being the first choice that makes me think the Osimhen links are nonsense.
Yea, maybe the Sesko stuff is the agent misinformation, but who knows.
I agree. I like Sesko at 55M more than I like Osimhen at 100M, but both guys are exciting, talented players, and Id be happy to have either.
Psg and Chelsea aren’t interested, conte was signed and vocal about wanting Lukaku, they don’t have Europe so need a big sale and they probably have a gentleman’s agreement for him to be sold (I know, nothing in stone but still).
If we buy Sesko he’s basically staying and going to be unsettled
People blaming Fabrizio for the lack of fanfare regarding the Mbappé signing, when really "Team known for signing world class young players adds another to their collection" isn't anything to marvel over. It's just another Monday.
It’s just another case of people getting bored once something becomes familiar. There was a time when the majority were fiending for any transfer updates or a ‘here we go’ but now apparently it’s ‘ruined’ transfers.
There’s an alternate reality where that’s a functioning line-up. A lot of other things in that universe would be fucked up but I still think it could work for a season or two.
Wharton is one of those crazy technically proficient players, ones that are just fun to watch. He'd be a very good Jorgi or Partey replacement if Arteta insists on keeping Rice further forward, but he just moved to Crystal Palace so no chance.
So do the England fans in this sub. Every time someone Lol's about people wanting Arsenal to sign Maddison over Odegaard, someone jumps in with a "To be fair..."
Bro I’m seeing Bowen better than Saka takes from West Ham fans still. These guys wouldn’t know someone punched them in the face if you absolutely haymakered them. I’m guessing this is what you get with social media , tell a lie long enough that you believe what you say.
I I like saka more but I also respect what bowen does. And it's tricky in that how somebody plays with other players is more important than how they are individually as technical gifts. I don't think Bowen would do bad at all for england. I'm also not going to put down saka but yeah
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Anyone else slightly creeped out how similar Maresca and Pep look? Like, it's uncanny.
Good to see mbappe move early, now papa flo sell us either camavinga tchouameni or Rodrygo
dont see any of those names leaving. diaz as well, im sure even the fringe players or bench players dont mind it as long as they keep winning.
Cama and tchounmeni are def not gonna get sold.
I know you’re joking but how would Mbappe joining lead to Cama leaving? 😂
There are widely accepted rumours that they will sell a marquee name to accommodate the numbers Mbappe comes with. See it another Ozil, Bale situation. The names have bounced from Valverde, Cama and Rodrygo.
Is fever pitch the only book recommending for arsenal?
'89 - audiobook read by Alan Davies
Theres arsene's autobiography but don't expect any dirt like fergie's book
Bergkamp's Stillness and Speed.
Hmm I'd also recommend reading it years later after reading it the first time. But other than that I'm not sure.
RIP La Liga, cannot wait for the next El Clasico to happen with 10 goal involvements
2/3 Clasicos this season ended with a last minute winner. Now while Mbappé is obviously an insane addition, Kroos is also leaving. And anyone who watches Real Madrid knows Kroos is the essence of the way Real Madrid plays over the past decade. He IS the one who controls everything, who slows and speeds up the play, who plays with the tempo as he likes. Kroos and Modric are the ones who control everything Real Madrid does. And now he is retiring, so personally i can easily see Barca competing
fair point, but real madrid already have a good young core of midfielders to take over the reigns, and i think Jude will also start going back to his no.8-role instead of bombing forward as a striker. Having Modric for another season should also help them out. If both Kroos and Modric left, then yea it a big handicap for them.
These Real Madrid players are becoming overrated, even with how good they are.
Im just going with hipster picks. Anyone got opinions on those 2 young potential Strikers? [https://www.transfermarkt.de/karim-konate/profil/spieler/847278](https://www.transfermarkt.de/karim-konate/profil/spieler/847278) [https://www.transfermarkt.de/igor-thiago/profil/spieler/739443](https://www.transfermarkt.de/igor-thiago/profil/spieler/739443) Obviously Thiago is injured. Konate seems to be chased by all bigger Bundesliga clubs.
Thiago just singed for Brentford for a record fee actually
Oh you're right, that's the guy. I know we don't rate toneys character but if we get him to trossard conditions, why not? If Brentford already signed his replacement.
https://x.com/partidazocope/status/1797765332167451122 If that is true then it's reek United or Chelsea. Also Omorodion looked pretty good in his loan spell
The fact that people are creaming over Wharton (rightfully so) makes me sad that Wilshere wasn’t around now that fans in general are more football literate. He would have made these new gens look meady. Could only imagine how good he would be in a midfield of Rice and Bellingham.
Wtf is ‘football literate’? Everyone knew how good Wilshere was he just got injured all the time.
Specifically about football, people in general are smarter than they were 10 years ago.
No they’re not lol
Not really, amount of stupid takes skyrocketing. 10 years ago if someone criticize midfielder of Ode productivity he will be treated as nutcase. Now some sheeps of people would think "huh, maybe it's valid opinion"
Please don't talk about Wilshere I don't have the time to relapse
We should probably buy another RB now that Madrid have Mbappe 😭
People that want Sesko here but don’t rate/want Osimhen are very strange to me
It's a realistic part of debating. The NNT guy on Twitter usually tables names like Osimhen, De Jong, Diomande, and Neves. That's like £300M. Not even considering the wage and agent burdens. The realistic way is knowing that Arsenal can almost afford 2 big names in a window. 2 is the anomaly but it happened last window. So people can mentally allocate £100M to Bruno, and £65M to Sesko. Instead of £100M to Bruno and £120M to Osimhen.
It's a realistic part of debating. The NNT guy on Twitter usually tables names like Osimhen, De Jong, Diomande, and Neves. That's like £300M. Not even considering the wage and agent burdens. The realistic way is knowing that Arsenal can almost afford 2 big names in a window. 2 is the anomaly but it happened last window. So people can mentally allocate £100M to Bruno, and £65M to Sesko. Instead of £100M to Bruno and £120M to Osimhen.
No sensible club is paying that much for a “prolific goal scorer” that only had 20+ goals in a single in their entire career whilst being injury prone. Seskos allows us to facilitate buying another winger or spend bigger on midfield.
He won the league, ended a 30+ league drought, that's exactly the player we want. The only problem his fee is ridiculous, like even before Declan Rice.
You’re acting like he single handedly won them the league. He had an incredible season alongside kvara and kim min jae. He’s an 80m player max, a quality LCM is more crucial
It's mostly because he costs twice the price. He's also twice the player though.
Sesko twice the player of Victor?
Other way around
Obviously not what he meant
I was just asking for clarification mate
Very different styles and a huge difference in cost. Not sure what is strange
Not very different styles at all
Oshimen seems like more of a classic finisher similar to Haaland. Sesko is more well rounded, very good at link up/hold up play.
oh brother
Bruh you letting the highlight reels trick you
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https://preview.redd.it/n9mcnjykxf4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d6178560de17ff37886a71337d20fc073ca5556 I'd put Barkley Wilshere Carrick Gomes in this category but he's mostly right.
I'll never forgive England for what they did to Carrick.
Wilshere being ruled out of the 2014 world cup was like his last chance of really being part of England's lineup so technically he's not wrong
Gomes?
From United academy playing in France [Baller imo](https://x.com/HugoFilmz28/status/1794120982031999122?t=j3eUv3PxG7X5N_J8IORaQw&s=19)
Picture this. We are the only club in for a certain player with a high release clause who’s got his foot out the door already. Player wants the move, coach wants his replacement in. We want the best deal we can get given these conditions Do you chase him like a desperate crush in high school or do you bait that you’re negotiating for another player who’s future is going to be decided in the next two weeks so that the selling club wants to play ball by your terms before it’s too late?
The downside of finishing up our business early is that we have to now focus on on our upcoming season instead of chasing every Target we could find Did I say downside? Sorry wrong word
Seems like our strategy better pay off quickly then, because our leverage has an expiration date.
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They're terrified we're about to sign Sesko...
No they’re terrified that the demand for their asset is disappearing. Chelsea and PSG out, Arsenal hasn’t rang in 3+ weeks..
I mean sure, if he gets really cheap I could see us doing it. I just don't think our Sesko pursuit was a ruse.
Napoli want to get their business done too, can’t wait forever
In that case Napoli is left with no suitors for an unhappy striker (and coach), and we get Sesko who we still highly rate, not exactly a bad thing for us is it?
If we actually want Sesko in this scenario, then sure.
Certainly far from a bad option, not like we’re telling everyone we wanna bring lacazette back lol Now that we’re the most attractive option why not try this?
Works for me!
Real Madrid is looking scary. They just won the UCL, now they have Mbappe and Endrick too? The average age of their team is relatively young too.
The problem with mbappe he has that "superstar" big dick energy about him which may not go down well with real fans especially if things go badly
He is a professionell. More mature then Neymar. The propaganda against Mbappe is crazy.
Something tells me they’ll be fine.
After Bayern winning the 12/13 champions Leaguez it being reported that Robert lewandowski wasn't going to sign a new contract with Dortmund and leave on a free (with no lack of gossip that he was headed to Bayern) and that they just signed Gotze, and also just announced pep guardiola was going to manage the next season, Alan shearer justifiably felt that they were going to rule Europe for the next 5 years. Sounded true but they ended up making exactly zero cl finals in that time period.
Tbh a lot of that 12/13 Bayern team were relatively old. Schweinsteiger was 28 and he fell off not long after, Ribery and Robben were both 30, Lahm was 29 and Kroos left a season after. This Real Madrid team has Lunin (25), Militao (26), Tchouameni (24), Camavinga (21), Brahim (24), Valverde (25), Guler (19), Jude (20), Endrick (18), Rodrygo (23), Mbappé (25) and Vini (23).
Only time will tell how this turns out.
Defence still a bit sus in my opinion, But the attacking threat should overcome that issue
Although a Champion League title would be nice with these core of guys. The goal should be the Premier League. Real Madrid made UCL dreadful. I want the EPL title cause it means they did better than Man City. Plus the EPL trophy is a better looking trophy anyways 😌
No. The European Cup is ultimately the only trophy that matters for the very top clubs.
I do want the Champions League, believe me. But how the UCL plays out including the shit draw that we always get. I wouldn’t be too upset if we lost. Let me rephrase, Arsenal should go for both. But I think Arsenal winning EPL is more likely.
Arteta would get a statue at some point, even if he won nothing else at Arsenal but just one CL. A league title would take the total from 13 to 14, it's not as significant as winning the biggest European club trophy for the first time. We should always aim for both comps anyway, as a big club should do. I don't understand your take.
I know Arsenal hasn’t won the UCL, so that makes it a more desirable trophy to most. I think UCL is officiated differently and it’s a crap shoot more so than anything. Premier League teams competing in UCL are already at a disadvantage with the scheduling compared to the other leagues. Not to mention, it depends on the luck of the draw. Arsenal always get a shitty draw. At least with EPL it’s 38 games from August to May. No luck, just consistency needed. Not to mention winning the trophy in front of the home crowd too. Just my opinion
About the shit draw, the team just need to give their everything instead of give in just to focus on the league. That's not a proper winning mentality.
Martinelli with Timber and an LCM will put up numbers. We have a serious talent in Gabi he’ll just shut up the doubters next season
I love him, i really do believe he is the biggest victim of Artetas posession obsession. Because we have less quick transitions and if we do we often wait for the restdefence to form instead of pushing through. I really want him to be our starter but he either needs to adept better to what Arteta wants or he must be given more freedom and transition opportunities.
he hit Son levels of xG over performance last season with a good LHS and guys say he’s hit his ceiling lol. Just shiny new toy syndrome.
I think Arsenal should go for Kvaratskhelia at Napoli. Conte's gonna be their new coach and I don't think either of them would want to be in each other's plans. He'll be mindblowing in LW.
I don't know how you got the scoop in the second sentence but yes, he's perfect for LW. His price tho, is ridiculous.
I agree man but i also want Bowen who we won't move for either unfortunately. Kvara would be unbelievable as a two footed option. Could play everywhere.
I can’t see West Ham selling us their best player two years in a row.
I don't think he has the pace we demand from a wing signing.
Non of our current wingers have exceptional pace (except maybe Martinelli). And it isn't required when we control a game, pace can only be abused in transitions but we don't get much of transitions without being at least one goal ahead. Btw. im not saying Trossard, Saka, Jesus or Nelson are slow. A quick winger would be Mudryk, Sané or Johnson.
Definitely unrealistic but yeah. Kvara on the left and Saka on the right. Havertz as false 9. We’d be scoring for fun at that point. Like others are saying though, it wouldn’t be great for Martinelli obviously and doubt we’d spend that much just to upgrade him when he still hasn’t hit his ceiling.
 We got someone better already
Nah man Martinelli's ceiling is peeking already.
At 22 years of age 🤔
Honestly can't believe there are people who think Martinelli has hit his ceiling, like wtf
Some people assume that players’ development is linear where they get better every season. It’s rarely the case.
I do hope I'm wrong about this.
Martinelli - One incredible season, one season marred by a couple injuries and lack of a cohesive attack on his side Kvaratskhelia - One incredible season, one season marred by injury and lack of consistency in the team But Martinelli has hit his ceiling and Kvaratskhelia would be “mind blowing.” Ok man. Shiny new toy syndrome.
Tbh Kvara producing those numbers in that Napoli system is quite a merit considering the coaches
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Even if it's for France, this is a terrible take. Saliba's most glaring weakness is playmaking from the back. It's exactly why despite Upamecano's bozo moments, he's still the first choice. Everything else, he's the perfect player.
Literally seen this exact statement worded differently before on r/soccer, twitter and insta before.
You think people weren't saying that here too 😂
Man winning CL will require proper focus, consistency and a lil luck. That Madrid team is insane ngl
[We gotta stop talking about buying CBs and LBs](https://x.com/idoxvi/status/1797682188147949763?t=-NGC3UhadXV1StiNRFPRDw&s=19)
Martinelli Havertz Saka Bruno G Rice Odegaard We can compete with them
Need quality off the bench too.
After a certain point other clubs have to accept that Real Madrid have the best attackers in the world. You can’t find better ones, so to beat them you need other ways. Buying the best defenders and stopping those attacks is one way.
You don't have a chance unless you can get close to matching their firepower. Goals win games
Well, I’ve just had a look and: Real Madrid - 87 in the league, 127 all comps. Arsenal - 83 in the league, 110 all comps. So we aren’t too far off. If we get even better defenders and concede fewer goals and chances, the 110 goals we score will yield us more points.
I don't really care to debate this. But its proven time and again factually that the best teams score the most. Also it's much easier to upgrade the personnel in our attack then in our defence. Our top scorer has 16 goals.
Oh okay. How about the fact Man City scored much more than Real Madrid and still lose most affairs to them.
I agree but there isn’t a superstar attacker feasible really
Doesn't have to be a marquee name..we just need quality and variety at that end of the pitch
I think focusing on youth and the best prospects is better than hoarding average experienced players, which is exactly what Real did. Sesko and Doue, if we get them, are a step in the right direction. It is also funny you are downplaying defenders because for me that might be the only other area where we can get real quality for great prices this window. If we can't fix the other areas, then we might as well fix the defense once and for all and then when an opportunity opens up in attack, we'll be in a better place to take advantage. I'd like to also point out that Real didn't fix any goalscoring problem by going all out on a striker last summer, but instead pushed their marquee midfielder forward.
Defenders are always cheaper than attackers cause attackers are more important. Young defenders need to play. Diomande coming here is career suicide for him. Hato could make sense. but he also just renewed his deal. I don't see how that fee will be favourable
That has more to do with marketing and demands. Currently defensive midfielders are the most expensive players because they are in high demands and low supply. Attackers are easier marketable so they will always be more expensive. Every kid wants the shirt of the guy that scored the goal in the game they were watching.
Vieira is getting a lot of slack but I rather have him then ESR he’s a much better player and he can unlock defenses something that we need.
ESR is more well rounded. Vieira has potential because his technique is nice, but his overall game is severely lacking in some areas. For example in the "off the ball"-game ESR blows Vieira out of the park, it's no contest. Also ESR got better runs and is overall more versatile. I like Vieira, not sure he can make it in england currently, maybe he would be better in a team that plays more in transition than we do.
I like Vieira a lot and he is the only one that really naturally covers Odegaard's position but I would say ESR has a better track history with us (provided his fitness is deemed good enough going forward)
The only unlocking Vieira has been doing lately is prison cells.
Osimhen hype train lost steam but I just found some coal
Not sure why he isn’t top target personally, has everything you could want in a 9. Him and Havertz rotating is a dream. Must just be a financial thing.
The Napoli owner is like top dog at getting top dollar for everybody he has under contract. Everybody pays up even if what they get in return is a disappointing spell playing now. I can understand the hesitation
Afcon starter+ injury prone. So you overpay for a player that misses half of all games. City don't even have one african player left for that reason.
He’s injury prone
Finances is the main reason I think.
Unless Napoli is selling him for 80 million nobody is paying that outrageous fee
By letting 22 players go. How much money did arsenal free up in salary?
https://preview.redd.it/i3swfzk9mf4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23cb53685b1d52f12e1815d08803efb652a1bd3e Roughly. Rest would be under £5k a week.
Goodbye Raya🕊️🕊️🕊️ Never fall in love with a loan player 💔
Raya is not going
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Are the 22 players not contract expiry?
Oh yeah you're right. Thought he meant when we were terminating deals for some reason
Twitter saying Sesko is going to Chelsea? Anyone else see that? Haven’t been able to find the report.
It’s Ben Jacobs, who is allegedly Tier 2 for Chelsea news. Although his track record is awful, so probably nothing in it.
He said they have interest in him. But the rumour is Sesko would join us over anyone else and since there's a release clause we will almost definitely sign him if he's our main guy.
I’m not too bothered personally, if he wants to go to Chelsea he can go there
"twitter"
you’re gonna need a more specific source than that
Hence why I posted to see if anyone else had it. I haven’t been able to find anything on it, other than Eduardo Hagn making reference to it.
Its best to never trust any sort of Hagn transfer news tbh
Luiz for €60m. Wonder if we'll gazump
Hard to believe he's for sale, let alone at that price.
Wait, Douglas Luiz?? Considering I was expecting something closer to 75-80m pounds that sounds fantastic. Get a Luiz and a Fofana for 80m euros total and we have our midfield set I think.
U seriously belief luiz is gonna get sold for less than 100m?
Well I'm just commenting on what the other guy said. As I already mentioned - I expect around 80m pounds (not euros) minimum, probably depending on the buyer.
Who else is in For him?
Juventus. They're tryna make a part ex happen with McKennie 😂😂😂😂
What’s funny Weston isn’t a bad player
That’s why juve are trying to offload him like he’s a packet of pasta
Okay BradyGronk
Why so cheap? Still 2 years on his deal and Villa have CL so I don't imagine they're that desperate.
Most clubs see 2 years as the pinch point. With 1 year left his value plummets.
Seems like we will get to pick between osimhen and sesko, and then everyone else battles is out for whatever we dont take 😂
No UK based outlet/itk has linked us with Osimhen (at least not this window). It’s all just Napoli and his agent using Arsenal to stir up interest in Osimhen. Meanwhile the UK based guys like Watts and Cross are definitively saying Sesko is the target. Watts basically said as such on his most recent video.
https://x.com/teamnewsandtix/status/1728784672925090291?s=46
-7 months ago, before the Havertz’ ascension
And we still insisted that we want to play Kai off a focal point 9 after that
Who insisted that? Arteta for the one game against Villa? Other credible journos have said that once Havertz started banging them in, and we hit our stride, that our plans to buy a big ticket striker changed.
“Handofozil” doesn’t count as a reliable journalist lol
Watts has said this over and over again “don’t expect a superstar signing. Expect floor raisers” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4yLqm4TLUx4 Here’s his video today where he talks about Osimhen.
What’s has been cold for years bro
So the laundry list of British journos and others saying banging the Sesko drum are all full of shit, but a TNAT tweet from 7 months ago when circumstances were materially different is the word of god lol. Okay
Uk based journalists chat nonsense these days
Personally i dont think any uk based journalist will know much about us, we dont leak anything. Noise will likely come from the other sides.
Eh, they’ve still called a few of our transfers beforehand in the past couple seasons. It’s not even that the UK guys aren’t saying anything about Osimhen, it’s the fact that pretty much every guy we think has connections into the clubs (TNAT, Watts, Delaney, Cross, etc) are all beating the drum for Sesko being the first choice that makes me think the Osimhen links are nonsense.
Tnat tbh two months ago or so was saying osimhen is choice number 1. Personally im good with either tho
Yea, maybe the Sesko stuff is the agent misinformation, but who knows. I agree. I like Sesko at 55M more than I like Osimhen at 100M, but both guys are exciting, talented players, and Id be happy to have either.
Oh i dont want him for a 100 mill haha.
I think the Osimhen stuff is bs, just don’t see how that’s even a fit. Seems like it’s being pushed by another party.
It’s almost couldn’t be clearer what he offers us lol
Don’t think we’ll be offering up that release clause though
The chips are falling in place so that maybe we don’t have to
That sounds like hopium to me. What chips?
Psg and Chelsea aren’t interested, conte was signed and vocal about wanting Lukaku, they don’t have Europe so need a big sale and they probably have a gentleman’s agreement for him to be sold (I know, nothing in stone but still). If we buy Sesko he’s basically staying and going to be unsettled
Depending on the fee I would rather have Osimhen
We need more game changers Sesko would be a start his ball striking is elite
People blaming Fabrizio for the lack of fanfare regarding the Mbappé signing, when really "Team known for signing world class young players adds another to their collection" isn't anything to marvel over. It's just another Monday.
Transfer has been dragging for years. Proper weird to blame Romano for lack of hype.
It's more than just the Mbappe story.
It’s just another case of people getting bored once something becomes familiar. There was a time when the majority were fiending for any transfer updates or a ‘here we go’ but now apparently it’s ‘ruined’ transfers.
In general? Absolutely. For this signing in particular? Nah.
Saka - Aubameyang - Buendia Maddison - Bissouma - Guendouzi Tierney - Upamecano - Saliba - Max Aarons Martinez Come on Edu make it happen!!
Needs Hickey
What, no Benzema? Edu Out
There’s an alternate reality where that’s a functioning line-up. A lot of other things in that universe would be fucked up but I still think it could work for a season or two.
It's Europa League level tbh
Or possible 4th place if there’s a big game of top four is lava going on lol
You’re right. I was tripping. The more I look at it, the worse it gets.
Wharton is one of those crazy technically proficient players, ones that are just fun to watch. He'd be a very good Jorgi or Partey replacement if Arteta insists on keeping Rice further forward, but he just moved to Crystal Palace so no chance.
I saw Wharton and immediately just thought you were talking about UPenn Business school
Adam Wharton's gonna be a brilliant signing for someone, I hope its us.
I hope Crystal Palace keep him.
Didn’t he join in January? Hard to see him leaving so soon.
Trent is too good, man
Maddison, you are truly shit
Average player How Spurs fans rate this guy is beyond me
So do the England fans in this sub. Every time someone Lol's about people wanting Arsenal to sign Maddison over Odegaard, someone jumps in with a "To be fair..."
Bro I’m seeing Bowen better than Saka takes from West Ham fans still. These guys wouldn’t know someone punched them in the face if you absolutely haymakered them. I’m guessing this is what you get with social media , tell a lie long enough that you believe what you say.
I I like saka more but I also respect what bowen does. And it's tricky in that how somebody plays with other players is more important than how they are individually as technical gifts. I don't think Bowen would do bad at all for england. I'm also not going to put down saka but yeah
all fans gonna overhype their own players. it's normal.
why do u care what west ham fans think
Can’t believe I was hearing Rodrygo better than Saka takes this season. Madrid would make that swap in a heartbeat if they could.