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backflipbananaz

Did anyone work out how to watch MAG trials outside of the US? Asking for research purposes and nothing else xxx


InternationalFall515

VPN + peacock


KelpRepublic

Live or after? Day 1 is here: https://youtu.be/j2rKRRXJurw?feature=shared


backflipbananaz

Live for tomorrow but this is great for now šŸ’•


chalkbucketrat

I need Tim Daggett replaced. I canā€™t stand a negative Nancy dude just talked crap about the gymnasts for 2 hours straight


mistee8866

Tim is not bad and he is just honest about where the deduction are going to come from so the audience can be a little educated on what to look for. Landings give away tenths and even casuals fans can understand it. His excitement for gymnastics is evident and he is very consistent with his commentary. I like the team of him and John and their banter.


Lumpy_Window4998

tim is not that bad yall need to calm down and see that he has clear passion for the sport and commentating unlike many who they have tried to bring in through the years


Loaf713

could not agree more. I quite like Tim, and his enthusiasm was a big part of how I even got back into gymnastics. Consistency of voice truly helps with viewership. The current commentators all have strengths and weaknesses


_elizsapphire_

Oh no I step away for an hour and suddenly Khoi is in trouble šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ MAG you never fail to give me a heart attack. I think he _probably_ still makes it based on what Iā€™m reading? I just hope he can still recover on Day 2 and hopefully rest that knee a little So pleased for Frederick and Shane tho!!


AReckoningIsAComing

Shane and Paul's stocks went way up. Khoi needs to have an AMAZING night 2 to come back from this (which I truly hope he does).


berrikerri

Does anyone know when they typically upload the replay on peacock? I couldnā€™t watch live :(


smilingseal7

It's available already for me! Generally it takes an hour or so


January1171

Came here to ask the same thing


yolo216

Up now! I was there live but want to see some of the broadcast


Traechic

Same. I donā€™t see it on mine though


complusivenewsreader

Okay, first in-person elite meet recap: 1. When people say you can feel the environment in the arena, they mean it. I donā€™t totally know how things compare to other meets, but I felt a nervy energy personally. Iā€™ve been to a few UMN gym meets and they were a lot more relaxed than this. Minnesota showed out for Shane, and you could definitely feel everyone was really rooting for Donnell. 2. Tomorrow, Iā€™m bringing my earplugs! And my binoculars šŸ˜‚ (for those in the top bowl). I ended up heading home mid rotation 4 because I had a headache. 3. Check out the vendors outside if youā€™re interested! The Skippy booth has a photo option where they superimpose you onto a gym background of your choice. I got a free picture of me that looks like Iā€™m standing in front of the uneven bars on the podium! Core hydration was giving out free water samples, the scrunchy, and stickers. The merch line took a long timeā€”look for the one by Target Field for a shorter wait. They also have Olympic rings you can get your photo in front of, and a Spieth low beam too. Now to rest up emotionally for tomorrow, lol!


myrunningshoes

Itā€™s funny, I didnā€™t think it was that loud - but I realized when we left that my head was pounding šŸ˜‚


Loaf713

I felt this way at worlds in Liverpool! so exciting though


Traechic

The atmosphere is really the best part. I didnā€™t even feel like today was that loud, I canā€™t even imagine what womenā€™s day 2 is gonna be like!Ā 


complusivenewsreader

I was outside in the merch line for awhile at the beginning when one of the bands was playing and they were super loud. I think that just carried over because my head was totally pounding. But Sunday is probably going to be wild. So excited for tomorrow!


wolfsmanning08

I really wonder if Steven may have mathematically clinched a spot? Barring the loophole someone posted where there may be two different highest scoring teams and even if Stephen is on both, he can potentially be left off. But considering the selection criteria, I do kind of agree with him playing it safe. Now he can throw whatever he wants the last day and still have three solid scores. Idk how I actually feel about him being on the team, but by the guidelines he's put himself in a very good position (also helped by others having major issues on pommels across multiple meets)


southofnowhere

i believe he needs to contribute .5 more than the next highest scoring team. so maybe someone has the potential to score highly enough to average things out appropriately? but it does seem very unlikely.


presek

The 0.5 thing would only apply if another non-all-arounder was on the highest scoring team (e.g. Curran).


AardvarkCool

yea, as the other person said, it's a full 2 points but it only applies if they had 2 specialists, not just one


alexallatt

That is only if bringing a specialist means they can only put up 3 in quals (which I believe wouldnā€™t be the case) according to neutral deductions


steffph

I will never understand how these ladies run with their hair flowing like that. (Coming from a swimmer with a lot of hair.) it boggles my mind. (No, I havenā€™t turned the channel lol.)


Mintronic

Ok help me understand those 200m track uniforms that look like a thong one piece swimsuit over shorts?


sherapop80

You mean the adidas ones? I noticed those also. They are horrible! Idk if it is actually a thong or it is just designed to look like one but I donā€™t see the point either way.


Mintronic

Yesā€”theyā€™re AWFUL


steffph

They surely use anti chafing stuff between their legs. That has to be painful without it.


steffph

Funnily enough, the swimmers are more covered šŸ˜‚


steffph

Chat, idk if I can take Courtney tulloch and Donnell not going to Paris.


wolfsmanning08

Spencer posted Khoi dropped off the highest scoring team, replaced with Shane or Juda. Stephen still in it (which makes sense compared to everyone else's pommels)


Solid-Brush-5687

What is Spencerā€™s socials please


wolfsmanning08

He posted it on BBS: [https://balancebeamsituation.com/2024/06/27/2024-trials-live-blog-mens-day-1/](https://balancebeamsituation.com/2024/06/27/2024-trials-live-blog-mens-day-1/)


steffph

Edge to Shane šŸ™ I didnā€™t have him on it but Mr always the alternate deserves it.


Keighty651619

Thatā€™s (hopefully) soon to be Mr. 2 time Olympian.


southofnowhere

from spencer: Averaging nationals and trials so far, Khoi Young is dropped off the highest-scoring team, replaced by Wiskus or Juda in a tie. Nedoroscik is still in there because no one else has scores.


InternationalFall515

Iā€™m new to menā€™s, mostly a womenā€™s fan, but enjoyed watching today so Iā€™m curious! Iā€™m wondering what is holding back Asher Hong from being in the highest scoring team above Juda or Wiskus? Thanks for the help and explanations for this newbie :)


pixie1sunshine

he had a bad showing at nationals so needs another high scoring night. Tonight was a great improvement.


kaylaells

Asher had a disastrous nationals - he ended up 10th. They use scores from both nationals and trials to decide the team, so he has a big hole to climb out of.


Epic_Soap

My wife and I did some quick work - if you JUST take Day 1 results - top scoring team by .05 is Brody, Fred, Shane, Paul and Yul. This doesn't take into consideration people scoring better JUST what they scored today


Correct-Bend900

So is it Brody, Frederick, Yul, Shane/Paul and Stephen?


southofnowhere

yes!


gym_fun

Ummmm I pray that Stephen will not bring a 12-13 in team final. Heā€™s kinda almost locked if heā€™s consistently in the highest scoring team.


point-your-FEET

If heā€™s on the team I kinda hope he does an easier / more consistent routine in TF like he did today.


gym_fun

I think if he's selected, he's expected to go for a fairly difficult routine in TF which helps lock his spot for one event, not just playing it safe.


Tundra_Tornado

Especially since other countries, who USA will be directly competing with for medals, have pommels guys who will likely be scoring in the 15s. GB with Max, Ukraine with Illia and Oleg, China with Zou Jingyuan, etc etc. That's not even getting into Stephen's chances of entering the pommels EF if he puts up a mid 14 in qualifications.


gym_fun

Yes, the US can't afford the luxury to bring one event specialist who purposefully downgrade in both QF and TF. If he downgrades at the last minute in the last one or two rotation to secure a team medal, like Daiki always did on HB, I can understand that. But someone who could contribute on multiple events would have added more (with a lower risk) when the goal of specialist is to intentionally downgrade in the first few rotations...


Correct-Bend900

I wish he was the male version of Madison Kocian where we knew we could put him up on any event as a backup if necessary. But if makes it and no one else bumps him out, I'll be hoping he kills it in Paris.


gym_fun

Madison Kocian is different because she wonā€™t drop below 15.5 (a medal score). Pommer Horse is like beam. Everyone has a chance to mess up. Khoi could score 15, but he received 11 today. Stephen also received 12-13 in 2022 team final.


southofnowhere

i adore stephen but his consistency does leave something to be desired lol


Tundra_Tornado

I will say he has been doing his best this year to overcome that reputation. He's scored in the low-mid 15s internationally and at Nationals one day (these are scores which will contend for the apparatus gold medal), and hasn't dropped below a mid-high 14 otherwise (a "low" score for a specialist but still really handy for a team).


wolfsmanning08

Even if he does, he is likely to make it. He will drop his lowest score. I know they made a big deal about his score today, but mid 14s on pommel is still an excellent score, especially comparatively.


gym_fun

I know, but taking one event specialist is still a very risky move. Like Khoi, Stephen can reach 15, but he can also go 12-13ā€¦ it happened in 2022 team final.


wolfsmanning08

Oh, I definitely agree. However, per the selection protocol, he seems to be in a place where he potentially can't be left off the team. They tried to make the selection process very clear, but it's left them in a position where Steven is on all variations of highest scoring team.


Correct-Bend900

Crazy first night. I'm the most concerned for Khoi (that knee definitely seems to be holding him back) and Pommel Horse in general (every miss made me think about the Team Final in Paris and not in a good wayšŸ™ƒ)


SpectralTh1ef

Shaneā€™s stock probably rose the most tonight followed by Stephen and then Asher, all unclear though on making the team Brody and Frederick stayed the same as safely on the team Yul may have gone down slightly, but prob still on Paul stayed the same but still prob still an alternate Khoi down a lot but could improve, has best history Curran and Colt prob off still Donnell stock down but could possibly improve


damewallyburns

Yullll šŸ«¶


ray_ish

I think the only thing that helped Stephen was he stayed on, but played it way to conservative.


SpectralTh1ef

I think he was helped by everyone else struggling on pommels


redushab

Well this is going to be interesting. After Nationals I was assuming Brody, Frederick, Khoi, and Yul with one spot open, pretty much. With both Khoi and Yul having falls on pommels, though, I'm definitely curious to see what happens Saturday. Khoi was great on vault, and Yul looked good on P-Bars, but. Shane and Paul were both great tonight. And I'm going to believe in Donnell to show up Saturday (he can afford to drop his scores tonight, he was greatt on relevant events at nationals)


a28s13f11

2/10 night and I'm only giving it that because of Frederick and Shane.


notplop

Stock up: Asher, Shane Stock down: Khoi, Donnell, Stephen Everyone else I think stayed pretty neutral


Keyblader1412

I think Stephen went up given how messy most of the guys were on Pommels today. His score today wasn't great for him but it's still very usable in a team final.


notplop

Iā€™m just curious if his score will mathematically lock him into a spot, because I donā€™t see the committee taking a one event specialist who isnā€™t putting up scores to medal if they donā€™t have to


point-your-FEET

I know that the men have one automatic spot if the top AAer is also in the top three on three events. What do they do about vault - is it top three of single vault scores?


pixie1sunshine

I was wondering the same thing.


AardvarkCool

no you have to have 2 vaults!


steffph

I feel like Khoi should pull out with injury and petition.


gym_fun

I wish they allow that like the Japanese selection for Daiki.


notplop

Can the men petition for injury? I know for WAG you cannot petition for injury


steffph

According to this, yes: https://static.usagym.org/PDFs/Pressbox/Selection%20Procedures/m_24olympics.pdf


notplop

After reading it, Iā€™m not sure it would even work for him. It says you need to show readiness by July 1, which is only 4 days from now. I donā€™t really see how him sitting out would make patellar tendinitis get better in only a 4 day span


steffph

Well, couldnā€™t you argue day 1 showed readiness though? Itā€™s a chronic injury so idk might be treated differently but you could be right. I also mentally was thinking July was a week away but honestly, that is still very soon.


notplop

I mean he totally flopped day 1 so I would definitely say he did not show readiness based on day 1 Edit: in my eyes readiness is an ability to be on the team, not simply a readiness to compete. Not sure what the committee views as ā€œreadinessā€ though


point-your-FEET

Do the men have a procedure to petition on to the team? I think if he were to pull out now the team could end up automatically selected without him on it.


souzle

It looks like Khoi would have to be able to do a show of readiness (routines with full difficulty) by July 2nd at the LATEST in order for his petition to be accepted. That's only 5 days. So Khoi's injury doesn't seem like the kind of thing the petition would work for.


steffph

Yep https://static.usagym.org/PDFs/Pressbox/Selection%20Procedures/m_24olympics.pdf


steffph

Itā€™s not letting me copy and paste from the PDF. iPhone problems idk. Youā€™ll have to scroll to 1.4.3.c


point-your-FEET

thank you! Super interesting. The menā€™s procedures really have everything laid out clearly


southofnowhere

tbh i think he should have done that after vault today. he was never quite right after that


steffph

Agree.


[deleted]

What happened to Khoi? Did he fall?


peppybasil2

Yeah, he fell twice on pommel horse.


[deleted]

Nooooo! Thank you šŸ˜­


gym_fun

Fred is top 3 on 3 events!


Savings-Patience-422

Why does menā€™s gymnastics look so exhausting???


gym_fun

They have 6 events and do 10 counting skills in each event. It will change to 8 counting skills thankfully next year.


point-your-FEET

Womenā€™s is 8, right? So men have a minimum of 51 skills (5x10 plus vault) and women have a minimum of 25 (3x8 + 1).


pixie1sunshine

wow! I had never added it all up or even thought about it. Do they really do 10 skills on high bar? I had heard the 10 skill thing before, but didn't think about it being all events.


Tundra_Tornado

Yes but only 5 can be releases. Generally they count multiple C or B skills, because it's very hard to build up a routine with 10 counting skills.


gym_fun

Yes, at least 10 skills on each event (well except vault). Sometimes, they count some A/B skills except for parallel bar. That's why a 15+ parallel bar is more common than other apparatus. It's the only apparatus that can reach 16+.


gym_fun

Yes, and thatā€™s demanding for AAers in MAG.


a-world-of-no

Because 6 events in a row is A LOT.


politicalcatmom

Switching to track & field trials to hopefully cheer myself up šŸ˜­


gym_fun

Do they have live chat lol


politicalcatmom

Per r/trackandfield it looks like they have a discord channel for live chat


steffph

I love these hot pink cleats


Boop711

I have been a secret shane stan and now I am a PROUD SHANE STANĀ 


Full_Database_2045

Why does Shane Wiskus get no love? He did well today


Keighty651619

He got a hell of a lot of love in the arena.


Full_Database_2045

Iā€™m glad. They didnā€™t hype him up enough on peacockā€™s main stream for my liking.


WanderingLemon13

The whole arena exploded for him after everything he didā€”heā€™s a local MN guy so he enjoyed all the hometown vibes!


ray_ish

Shane is loved!


Cassandrae_Gemini

I like his clean international look.


Comfortable-Sky-4635

Iā€™m SO rooting for both Shane AND Suni to make the team in front of their home crowds!!!


gym_fun

No heā€™s loved!


notplop

I love him!! Heā€™s been my fave since last Olympics


Traechic

He did amazing. Steady and clean


Deuteronomy23-1

People were going crazy for him in the Target Center today!


buginskyahh

This meet drained me but I feel like I should watch the first part of the debate


OftheSea95

I wouldn't. At least here you can mute the nonsense (aka Tim) and still know what's going on.


[deleted]

I think that would drain you even more


Cassandrae_Gemini

new drinking game: drink whenever one of them says something incoherent you'll be unconscious within minutes


priyatequila

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Dapper_Text6653

Someone please do the math and let me know if Khoi's vault alone is enough for him to make it šŸ˜­


Chimera_08

I feel so bad for him, but unfortunately everyone elseā€™s vault scores are decently high and hitting, that itā€™s not as helpful for Khoi šŸ˜„


steffph

Honestly, the additional criteria will probably come into play. I donā€™t see how the different team scenarios arenā€™t 2+ points apart after tonight šŸ˜‚


southofnowhere

pain. i feel so terrible for khoi. i also just think it would be really fucking cool to have two black men on the team (maybe three?). when's the last time that happened, like 1996?


LisaSaurusRex83

I miss Chainey Umphrey. He was my fave in MAG back in the day!


Solid-Brush-5687

This !!! I really got big on MAG because of them at World last year


a28s13f11

Same! And clearly becoming more diverse has significantly helped the women.


Signal_Ad_2002

anyway see yall tomorrow for the women


point-your-FEET

So Brody and Frederick are pretty much locks at this point. Then pick three of Khoi, Yul, Donnell, Shane, Paul, Asher, Stephen? ^(Edited bc I forgot that he asked to be called Frederick)


onyxrose81

Just FYI, he wants to be called Frederick, not Fred.


hopefeedsthespirit

Donnell has exhibited his patented mental flop. I think he is out. Edit: And I don't think Stephen is on the team with lower difficulty. If he's not a medal contender (which he is not with that score) he is not going to make it.


Scatheli

How the team is selected Donnell is still in it if he hits night two because nationals was very clean for him. They look at the best three of four scores so anybody with more than one bad night on an event is in trouble. Trials isnā€™t worth more than nationals for men


hopefeedsthespirit

I know. I'm saying that I think Donnell is out because mentally, he can never seem to compose himself once the mistakes start rolling in.


Scatheli

Heā€™s done a ton of work on his mental game based on interviews heā€™s given, letā€™s give him a chance.


hopefeedsthespirit

I love Donnell. I was rooting for him. I'm being honest though. I'm not optimistic but will be happy to eat my words.


OftheSea95

It's only night 1, and he's been working on his mental space during these meets! We don't need to write him off just yet!


hopefeedsthespirit

I am sorry. I do love Donnell. I'm just not optimistic. I will be so happy to be wrong though!


point-your-FEET

I agree that it wouldnā€™t make sense to pick him for the team, but if he has a good day Saturday I think he could still end up automatically selected. But maybe not idk I havenā€™t looked at the numbers.


maghart

I agree. He's out.


gali_leo_

Patented mental flop šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ


Soft_Swing_875

Fredrick and Brody in the lead! And Shane at #3! Shane is the most surprising. What do teams look like if he makes it?! (Also hoping Suni gets the same home crowd boost he has šŸ™Š)


Solid-Brush-5687

Frederic * in first


Soft_Swing_875

I already changed it even before your comment. Iā€™m sorry ā¤ļøā¤ļø


FlutzingDinosaur1

Shane did awesome, definitely a contender for the team now especially with the struggles from Khoi and Donnell. Asher did well but I think he has a big road ahead, has to hit day 2 as well to have a shot considering his Nationals


MichiganDCCFan

This was fun see yā€™all tomorrow night šŸ„°


littlej2010

I didnā€™t comment before in fear of jinxingā€¦ but go Frederick!! So happy to see him do well. Still holding out hope for Khoi, Yul, and Donnell but thatā€™s going to come down to the wire.


hopefeedsthespirit

Yul's still in it. He is #6. Khoi, I'm worried about. The kneee looks like it is hurting him badly.


Sensitive_Ride3198

Wait someone educate me could Shane beat out Khoi??


TechnicalYogurt6689

According to BBS the best scoring team would now leave off Khoi and instead Shane and Paul are tied for that last spot.


Sensitive_Ride3198

Wowwww


Keighty651619

Shane is riding the hometown crowd and willing his way onto this team and Iā€™m here for it.


ysabeaublue

Frederick in 1st! Paul did good. Yul did okay to better. Poor Khoi...


SingaporeanNoodles

Yayyy Frederick in 1st for AA!


Educational_Kiwi_143

Is Shane-Juda-Cameron the Chiles-Kayla-Leanne of MAG?


Educational_Kiwi_143

As in very good all arounders but just too alternate coded


Chemistry66

Time to go either watch Phineas and Ferb or more Bridgerton.


ray_ish

Shane being in third!!!! Lets GOOOOOOOOOO


korbutfan

Frederick finishes first day 1!!!


Critical_Face6636

Fredrick!!!!


Solid-Brush-5687

I have to say I like Khoiā€™s mind set , he is not falling apart.I was thinking about his momā€™s reaction her hand on her head . Like itā€™s in your mind


tsukamatsu24

HELL YEAH 14.7 Fred on FX


MichiganDCCFan

Frederick and Juda GO BLUE


point-your-FEET

šŸ’™šŸ’›


wolfsmanning08

Wow, huge score for Fredrick!


kaylaells

Frederick wins!!!!!


Cassandrae_Gemini

the one bright spot of the meet!


Signal_Ad_2002

aww why did khoiā€™s ā€œhi everyoneā€ remind me of spiderman


Friendly_Coconut

Khoi actually just always reminds me of Spider-man in general. Heā€™d be a great live action stunt show Spider-man.


Cassandrae_Gemini

\*\*\*\* Can someone quickly calculate who is currently on track to make the team? I'm dying to know. Probably helpful to run it twice, once with all scores, and once with top 2/3 \*\*\*\*


steffph

Selection procedures: https://static.usagym.org/PDFs/Pressbox/Selection%20Procedures/m_24olympics.pdf


steffph

Interestingly, even if Asher somehow came in first, I donā€™t think heā€™d get the automatic berth. (I know heā€™s not first anyway but had a chuckle when I remembered the rule.)


OftheSea95

First as in first place? But yes, you have to end Trials in first as well as top 3 on 3 events right? I think that could only happen if several people flub on floor at this point


steffph

Yea, I was keyed in on it when he was momentarily in first šŸ˜‚


OftheSea95

If all goes well on Saturday it'll go to Fred!


steffph

Yea thatā€™s my hope. I think. There is one clause that says any highest scoring team scenarios that donā€™t include the auto qualifier will be discarded. I guess thereā€™s no way that scenario would come into play anyway with Brody or Frederick in the spot.


OftheSea95

Especially with both their strengths being high bar lol


point-your-FEET

I really like Frederick


jerseysbestdancers

Frederick is such an ambassador for his sport. I love it.


wolfsmanning08

Glad Yul turned it arpund


hopefeedsthespirit

Me too!


Boop711

Ik the math will decide regardless but I also feel like itā€™s a mistake not to bring Khoi (assuming his injury can improve in a month)


hopefeedsthespirit

I think it would be a mistake as well but I don't know if they built any leeway into the rules.


Chrissy2187

He did get top score on vault tonight!


Traechic

Fredā€™s floor is my fav and in person is just crazy! The height is insane. Plus heā€™s just such an entertaining person.Ā 


tsukamatsu24

Fred slayed FX and hype from the crowd, proud of him


expertlurker12

Give me Frederick at the Olympics!!!!


redushab

Donnell report: made it through pommels. A bit of a struggle on the dismount, but got it up and held on. And, you know, it's Donnell on pommels.


[deleted]

Thanks!


gali_leo_

We stan Donnell in my house.


drladybug

his arms are so big i'm amazed he can even do pommels in the first place


OftheSea95

Apparently its his favorite event!


Scatheli

Yeah we are not looking for perfect a hit is fine for him there


germli

Whew I havenā€™t made myself listen to Tim for this long in a while.


gym_fun

Frederick is probably the all around champ tonight!


ChelseaC1017

I hope Fred beats Brody for the automatic spot just so Tim shuts tf up


pixie1sunshine

He seems to be working under the assumption, both of them are a given. During nationals he said he only expected Fred to keep getting better, so he has been complimentary to both. I expected the same. It wouldn't surprise me if Fred qualifies for the automatic spot. It will be interesting to see how much risk the two of them take on night two.


ChelseaC1017

Thatā€™s correct, itā€™s just his clear favoritism towards Brody thatā€™s frustrating because the way he talks about the two of them is not entirely the same but they are very much evenly matched.


hopefeedsthespirit

Me too! LOL!


Old_Emergency1738

Iā€™d love that! But then, heā€™d probably just start rambling anyway saying, ā€œWell, we actually know TWO team members now because no way theyā€™re leaving Brody Malone off this team!ā€


OftheSea95

Big mood


a28s13f11

Mood