By definition, I don't know WHAT the Solarian Iron Dominion actually has as a government.
I am not endorsing nor praising fascism, totalitarianism, tyranny, martial law, despotism, or any other freedom confining political systems.
My brain just spit this out today. I read it after it was posted.
Something strange is going on in Human Land.
It's still democracy. The people chose this, and they haven't given up anything.
They just don't want to die.
What are they willing to give up so that they may survive?
As for the nation-states all fighting, that's just par for the course. "We hate each other, but we hate everyone else more."
*the universe liked that*
You say human politics are complicated?
No.
Juggling 5 balls on fire, while you are drunk and also on fire yourself, that's difficult.
Trying to pin down an overgrown burgerland-swamp land reptile while singing the burgerland anthem backwards, that's difficult.
Racing in the crashrider memorial international weapons-free cross-ocean derby challenge with a no-weapons handicap, that's difficult.
Understanding human politics? It's insane. It cannot be described under just a few words like fascism or dictature. The humans are too complex, to emotional, they would never accept it. They had to create 3 new levels of military gouvernment and stuck then all drunk in a trenchcoat trying to pass them off as a whole different regime. It's mind boggling, it's crazy, it's..... Too insane to describe.
And WHY did they do it? What reasoning can they give to such madness?
Easy... It's FUN!
Whoaii-Soh-Sairrri'ous, Pubvian Diplomat to the Iron Dominion. 2 years after the Great Bag Opening.
Complicated...?
It is all a matter of perspective.
It seems complicated until you close an eye.
One Eyed perspective is ever so much easier to understand.
Survival of the fittest now drives humanity. All else is subordinated to the goal of survival.
Simple really, if you endanger survival you aren't one of Us.
If you are of Them then you are likely the Enemy or a non-entity at best.
Survival dictates removal of the Enemy
The Enemy only exist to be destroyed.
Considering that the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Roman, I've always just assumed we can name our government whatever we want and then proceed to run it however we want; and the two things do not have to correlate. (Squints at the Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
It is every so much simpler if you just close one eye instead of squinting. If you view the DPRK that way what you see out of one eye is democratic, what you don't see out of the other won't contradict your vision.
Simple really.
I am outraged by the completely predictable consequences of my actions! Voting for the Weasles Eating Your Face Party seemed so reasonable at the time!
You have been visited by the fairy of democracy, liberty and our way of life.
Make the choice that will change your life.
Become a Helldiver!
Travel the galaxy!
Visit new places!
And kill everything that stand against managed democracy!
“Cryo-Reserves” and “to be determined” release date for conscripts… Sounds like an easy way to waaaay underreport populations without technically lying. Question is… what is the ratio of cryo reserves to reported population?
Add in TerraSol having full access to the SUDS and Afterlife, those numbers could easily be comically large with tons of combat experience
Edit: based on TerraSol revelations of severed diplomatic ties and “with me or against me” this gives a secondary perspective on the flat rejection of allowing the other Confederate members access to their people in Afterlife
50 years in the bag, 2.x generations of population created during that time with an actual *scoreboard* that may well have ousted She Who Has Birthed A Hundred from the competitive league.
Napkin math is telling me if the entire adult population (rejuvination therapy is probably mandatory now) really goes for it the doubling time is going to be somewhere around 2 years. The first thirty years worth of this are adults now and contributing to the snowball.
In-universe is probably lower than that, **but** we have force multipliers with cloning and DASS creches. Not to mention the Big Red Button that is going to make someone rename the Tomb Worlds.
Simple math - starting bag pop of 1.25B
60% female each having average of 10 kids at 50/50
Each of that generation repeats the process
Subtract the 3-6B stated population and you are left with 34-37 Billion cryo reserves just by using natural birth.
Now what would be somewhere between funny and hilarious would be the reactions from the older gestalts if TerraSol casually mentioned using Daxin and Kalki’s gene code to create entire divisions of Immortals offspring. Even funnier would be using their gene sequence as a new born whole template “just to supplement and spice things up a bit”
Daxin and the other Immortals earned their Rest. I think messing with a genetic template from their line would cause the same issue we have currently with Legion . .. . Make too many of them and Banmf. . you invoke their wrath . . .
> Now what would be somewhere between funny and hilarious would be the reactions from the older gestalts if TerraSol casually mentioned using Daxin and Kalki’s gene code to create entire divisions of Immortals offspring. Even funnier would be using their gene sequence as a new born whole template “just to supplement and spice things up a bit”
so u/Ralts_Bloodthorne ... just how much did they change while inside the bag? What levels of inconceivable are being conceived?
Thing is, a LOT of Terran/Humans would GLADLY come back for one more glorious war, for a variety of reasons. So we wouldn't necessarily have to conscript anyone from Afterlife, they might be begging to join the fight in a lot of cases.
I think too many are getting caught up in the word fascist and have forgotten that this story is pure imagination. Historical events don't have anything to do with it.
But we're trying to communicate. I love your writing, not because it's accurate. I love it because it makes me *feel* something. Fascist is just a word that paints a picture of unified under one goal.
For millions of words, you've painted a universe where we're stronger together, but it's the individual who matters. We rooted for our friends. We destroyed our enemies. All with the power of humanity.
Now we're grappling with the *how* we get there. There's going to be messy parts. There's going to be misunderstandings and mistranslations. There's going to be things we hate and things we love, fear, and in the end, kindness.
Let's not get caught up in terminology. I'm enjoying watching you define terms in your universe. There's billions of people right now, who have conflicting views on those terms anyways. Just continue to show us your vision and we'll all muddle thru till you define what you *mean*.
The absolute fatal flaw of centrally managed economies is that they are incapable of managing anything well. Centralized planning means you wont have the granular knowledge that makes for efficient systems. The Iron Dominion seems to have figured out how to localize decisions and priorities, spread out the thinking part of management, kept the discussion and disagreement that is essential to successful planning, and kept most people rowing in the same direction.
At the end of the day, when you are against the wall, you want to live. Your tribe, family, clan (Scottish sense of the word, you weirdos) want to live. Everyone on earth understands the stakes. The only disagreement is on the how, and humans can do more than one thing at a time.
Kith and Kin is a good way say the this.
Defined : noun
1. Both [friends](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=friends+definition&ia=definition) and [family](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=family+definition&ia=definition).
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition •
# If you threaten my Kith and Kin, you are the "other". This makes you the enemy and the enemy only exist to be destroyed.
Knowing was had and smiles followed.
End of Lime.
Not a hope. While Tik-Tak was a planning and resource finding Genius. . . .even when fighting the Whole bio-bullshit, of the Dweller Spawn that was the second war of First and Second Telkan. He used diplomacy, and worked on a democratic point of view. .. . . .all I know. .. . Is when Dee hears about this shit. . . .. . .I truly pity that Lawyer from the last chapter. . .. .
And while there are some Lawyers that may actually do the Detainee's work. The absolute distain that Dee has expressed towards Communism and Fascism, would make all but the most deluded, and dedicated Lawyers to the SID government, want to run, hide, and start finding small things that they can do in the background that would slowly undermine the regime. Cause when Dee shows up . . . .ye be Fucked if you be against her.
I think its some kind of fascist government but it doesn’t have a dictator or a war footing, so its gone into some kind of preservation mode where it pretends to be benevolent.
Picture a galactic scale pissed off momma bear and you wont be too far off, except it's a terrasol momma bear. Not one of ours. So it's at least half gene mods and cybernetics by weight. And that isn't even the scary half
It's Pinochet's system of national capitalism under a junta on a larger, looser scale rather than true fascism. Mussolini before the reforms of the second Italian-Abyssinian conflict is a better example of true fascism in which large industry has more freedom and isn't strictly military owned.
Franco's Spain from the Civil War until the Opus Dei technocrats took over in the 1960s was also like this: industries were privately owned but did what the Caudillo wanted.
We did something similar during WW2, and I'm not talking about the Nazis. Pretty much all America's infrastructure went to a war footing to beat the Nazis. It Beggs the question. In a post scarcity society, with informed consent, freedom of speech and right to bear arms in place, is it really a fascism? I would call more of war footing republic more than anything
Not going to shit up the comments (further) with politics, but if you want an excellent grounding in the various flavors of Fascism in different countries, I recommend Stanley Payne's Fascism: Comparison & Definition. May cause exclamations of "Real Fascism has never been tried!"
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I can totally see it. Sort of like the old Roman dictator. Limited and within a set of written or unwritten but commonly accepted laws, humans will give up many "rights" in order to plow thru a bad situation. Those in charge know that they can't get away with total totalitarianism and don't want to. Totalitarianism always violates information entropy. However if you can find a benevolent king to force solutions on the grand scale while individuals still figure out how to solve the issues at the individual scale.
That said, they also need to have a negative feedback loop or else the totalitarian state will become just as big of an existential threat as any outside force. Basically central planning can produce amazing things quickly... But they are also highly entropic so they tend to stagnate over the long term or they move in the wrong direction if run by the incompetent.
Basically it is better to still be alive and have a shitty temporary asshole govt than be dead while arguing over who is "best girl."
Strange is as strange does.
It matters not in the end.
Evolution, Mother Earth, and the Malevolent Universe dictate which roads allow the species to survive and maybe, just maybe, thrive. The competing forces that shape humanity's options create some strange paths indeed.
Stay on a path, no matter how strange, or fall by the wayside.
Smells of Psy-Ops to me, humanity has a... reputation, that when things get bad they get mean. They know that the universe outside may see them as the terrors and they are playing into that while not really changing from how their system ran. Instead of walk softy and carry a big stick, they choose the bust in like the kool-aid man carrying a baseball bat.(With a glove in the truck of the hover car so it's not considered pre-meditative)
That's... What the hell IS that? They're post-scarcity on individual levels, but on industrial complex levels they aren't. The Iron Dominion needs to use the gas giants to feed the war machine. And they need people, but they're sticking the conscripts into deep-freeze? And is that before or after training? Or are they getting neural mapped training in cryo? There are so many questions!!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Is it not obvious...
u/ralts_bloodthorne shared a few SUDS with the ghost of RA Heinlein last week... and the 4 years previously
*Would you like to know more...*
Never ment to imply that you did, would have, and I certainly damn well understand from reading between the lines of the previous almost 1200 chapters, that as a whole, never to assume that Humans/Earthlings/TDH or anybeing in this amazing story is what it appears to be on the surface. You literally grabbed lightning, and have been channelling the information that is trying to find a way out of your head.
I judge not. Well mor accurately I do not judge you for making the Solarian Iron Dominion basically a Diplomatic Fascist government. I Judge the SID . . . . .wait. . . .OK brain is not allowed to abbreviate this late at night any more. SID I will judge Soley on the actions, choices and acts of wanton Destruction perpetrates by them.While . . . subconsciously they may be a teeny tiny fragmation of your persona (more than likely created by the roller coaster ride of elections the world is going through), it might represent how you are making sure those thoughts do not take up residence in your head. ... .or at least that's what my insomniac ADHD medication wore out HOURS ago is grasping at so I can appreciate the complexity of the stupidity of Humanity . . . .In the very far future . . . .cause I gave up on figuring out Humanity's Stupidity that is currently happening.
What's that line?
If we don't even know what we're doing then how can the enemy figure out what we'll do next?
Also:
Wait, how does your government work?
That's the neat part, it doesn't.
But then why have it?
It's keeping you busy isn't it?
"Before doing a thing, I think to myself, *Would doing this thing potentially motivate a Terran to kill me?* If I think it could, then I do not do that thing." ~ Great Grand Most High Av'err'itri'skk'moo, Lankatallan Unified Ethics Council
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"No, the machines aren't alive; their *spirits* are alive. They don't usually care about their *shells*; they care about their *selves*. And some of them need tough love, so **hit the fucking housing with the fucking sledgehammer, private first class!**" ~ First Lieutenant Mekkani'ik, Telkan Marine Corps Logistics Battalion, Second Precursor War
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"I'm the big dog, motherfucker! I'm the motherfucking big dog!" ~ Lance Corporal Ontrim, Tukna'rn Marine Corps designated automatic rifleman, providing doctrine-approved suppressive fire and a doctrine-approved war cry
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"It's not that we think fascism is cool, it's just that it's the fastest way to werf the enemy's flammens, you know?" ~ Chief Warrant Officer 3 Shan "Hans" Nash, Solarian Iron Dominion Navy, Spurwide Mar-gite Conflict
"We can be well dressed wearing those fashionable skull decorations and do our job in a orderly fashion without being the baddies, ja. We are professionals, not barbarians." Rifleman Gunter G Gunter, Solarian Iron Dominion Navy, Spurwide Mar-gite Conflict
7 BC (bag closed)
The humming of the mat-trans unit is the corner fades as a chair creaks under the settling weight of a bespectacled grey haired woman. As the view pans to right it is obvious that the conference table is crowded with similar tense people sitting attentively.
The grandfatherly figure at the head of the table started speaking in a pleasantly congenial voice.
"Alright, everyone. This isn't news to most of you but remember this black box project is now sealed so free discussions are encouraged. We're meant to be the brains that *advise* the powers that pay for this here *ThinkTank*.
The Bag is screwy, Sol system's faster time dilation has decayed. It's already spinning faster out there than in here, and the dilation is accelerating. We need short-term, mid-term, and long-term scenarios yesterday. Short-term worst case everything first. Then back things off to fill every eventuality. Start mid-term analysis in a week but only allocate what you can spare from short term. Long-term can wait.
Questions?
OK, overviews in 24 hours. If you don't get a redirect I want actionable plans in 72 hours and details within the month.
Let's get this shit show underway."
***Audio/video recording found in Dr. Snipend notes***
8 BC
".... on the inter-species interaction front, long-term analysis shows that we have some bad news and some good news.
The bad news is that the allies are not socially or psychohistorically advanced enough to sustain the flame of determination to ensure that the Confederacy continues to thrive in our absence.
The longer the Bag remains closed, the higher the probability is that the Confederacy will be fractured and the allied members backsliding ever faster to their pre-humanity state of stagnation.
The good news is, based on the analysis of how we educated and inspired them on our first.. uhhh...*meetings*, we have a solution. We just need to scare them straight and drive them hard. They should join us voluntarily, like new conscripts if we do it right.
The Xenopsychologists had even better news. For all their species and cultural variation, there is one thing that is guaranteed to scare them straight. The reason they trust our aggressive culture is government oversight. They feel the civilians ultimately hold the reins of our rambunctious militaries. They suggest that we just reverse the power structure and put the military in charge of *everything*. Martial law with a fancy name should do the trick."
***Excerpt of ThinkTank Director reporting to a closed session of the United Sol System Inner Cabinet***
[Edited: to correct for time dilation event error.]
I like it, but only thing wrong about this is that this wouldn't have happened right at the beginning or even the 3-4 year mark in bag. Remember that initially the bag was moving faster than the universe to ensure that humanity gets more time to come out swinging. It was only some time later with the Atrekna attack, that the direction flipped. The initial few years in the bag would have been about reinforcing the total war protocols and ensuring that we had enough man power available.
It seems like the Iron Dominion is less about horrible Tyranny and more about cutting out the debate in order to do *something*. No time for talks about ethics or efficiency, can't think just gotta act on a system wide scale. They aren't here to crush the little guy theyre here to make sure the little guy survives whether they like it or not.
Remember in First Contact when the earth Gestalt came back for a little bit and was suuuper divided and arguing with itself constantly over every little fuckin thing? I doubt that system could survive what's going on right now, The Iron Dominion will.
“There is a saying on the cradle world of humankind that has a thousand iterations but a single meaning: It isn’t over until it’s over.
With respect to our human friends and allies, allow me to offer this slightly corrected saying as the rest of the galaxy knows it: It isn’t over until the humans say it’s over.
It doesn’t matter what the situation is. It doesn’t matter how long the odds are. It doesn’t matter if every sapient ever to live, every god ever known and the laws of physics and reality itself say that it *should* be over. If the humans didn’t hear no bell, then the matter isn’t concluded and won’t be until they’re convinced it is.
And good luck convincing an enraged, stubborn, defiant human of anything.”
- Excerpted from ‘*Iron Blood, Iron Will: A primer on Humanity*’
Ladies, Gentlemen, Both, and Neither,
Humans saved us. Our world, our children, our ducks.
Humans chased away all the things in the universe that sought to destroy us. Time and again. No matter how strong, no matter what it cost them.
They saved us, and called us their friends.
And my ancestors did the dumbest, most wonderful thing. They called Humans "Friend" back. And meant it.
So when the humans taught us their way of war, we learned it.
When they taught us their way of travel, we learned that, too.
And when they taught us what it meant to be friends, when they sacrificed everything but their home system for us? Well, what did we learn?
I urge you, all of you, do not make the mistake of forgetting who our friends are, have been, and always should be.
Vote to ally with the Humans. No matter what they call themselves now. No matter what it costs us. No matter what we have to do.
There's only one thing to say to them right now.
And everyone's so busy asking Humans to save their asses or give them slaves to work to death again that they've forgotten what we've been shown, been taught. What you say to a friend that's about to go to war. What you say to a friend that just spent forty thousand years stuck in a hole.
If you cowards won't say it, I will personally give up my office and kick all of your asses and ask them myself.
"Do you need assistance?"
-recorded on the Rigellian Saurian Compact Senate floor.
***To truly know another first you must understand their soul . -- So sayeth the Holy Book.***
My mother spent her life in service to her people.
She spent a lifetime in the void, seeking out hidden gems of knowledge and wisdom to keep her people safe.
The knowledge she gained about the Terrors, or the Terrans as they prefer to be called, fill entire libraries.
She was there to witness their return and the start of the Orion Arm War.
She called them friend and showed them the respect appropriate for clan-kin.
She knew them better than any other of our people.
But if you were to ask, she would tell you all you needed to know about them could be summed up in one sentence.
A sentence that was at the core of who they were.
A sentence that should rightfully send chills through whoever heard it.
*We're not done yet.*
***-- Battle Master Sethanathi,*** ***Orion Arm War Fleet Commander***.
A scene of protestors waving signs demanding the suspension of conscription, throwing teargas and projectiles, smashing windows, destroying vehicles. Law Enforcement began arresting them. Some of them paused, looking at the camera.
"We're doing our part!" the Law Enforcement *and* the protestors exclaimed.
Maintaining the vital traditions of Public Protest and the Rule of Law.
Don't let these things die out.
Do your part.
Is it confusing? During Desert Shield then Desert Storm there was political and war specific media everywhere. We absolutely were going over to kick ass. And outside the gates of my base there were three groups. A group protesting us in conflict, a group protesting the first protesters, and police on hand to make sure neither of the previous groups hurt each other.
From the military we looked at the protesters and said "I do this so you can call me a monster."
Bahn'yaad does politics the way we wish things were done. Following in the footsteps of a human senator from the first Margite War. Someone said something lazy and stupid. And they replied in violence to show how that does not work. Bahn' in my opinion was classier by passing on the rest of his ammunition to let others voice their displeasure as well.
Why is someone doing their civilian job doing their part? If we all march to war we surrender being human. Having those we care about behind us ***is*** the wall humans will fight beyond the end to protect.
Why are troops going to cryo? We do not know where we need them yet. They will be young and ready to rock when the time comes. Before that we preserve resources. It is cold and pragmatic, but that is sometimes what is needed in War.
The troops going into cryo are probably volunteers anyway. After 8,000 years TerraSol has probably developed acceptable procedures for this and it's no doubt as remarkable to them now as wearing a hat is to us. Not everyone does it but it's still a thing that people do.
100 years in cryo? Imagine the back pay!
At first I was appalled at what humanity has become but then I looked closer. I then found myself simply disappointed at how far they had fallen from enlightenment, but then I looked closer. The closer I look the more I realize that I’m damn sure they’re all just taking the piss.
I should have expected as much.
Listen, the current system is insane and self conflicting, but it works with minimal self immolation and that's what matter. That and building an extra large can of ass whooping for everything that even looks at humanity funny. Or thinks about us funny. Or possibly can think about looking at humanity funny. We'll figure out everything after the fighting ends. Or, more likely, go back to fighting each other as is tradition.
"Humans coming out of the bag was a very confusing experience for everyone involved.
As anyone, who studied humans properly, would assess, they came out ready to fight.
What was surprising was how it looked up close. With facist, yet very liberal government and militarised, yet very relaxed society.
What we did not understand, was that, this was Humanity being ready, rested and reloaded. Not as an army, but as a species."
- Tea'cher'moo "On the events of Terran Reemergence book 1 of 75" 62 ATR (After Terran Reemergence)
Maybe the government is just calling themselves tyrannical fascists to head off any allegations from people who don't like the change? In FC contact the vibe I got was the the Sol Government literally didnt give a shit about civil matters as long as you weren't causing issues, so having to keep track of all the resources in the system and instuting the draft and federalizing industry is a pretty big step up in control. Now people have to say this really isn't all that bad instead of screaming about how [new gov.] is tyrannical fascism in disguise or around the pike.
Edit: also it sounds cool af and you can have cool uniforms with lots of gold braid and peaked caps with shiny visors and eagles
Some shenanigans were needing shenanigans. Being a T1 resource, probably means the military can cut a fuck ton of red tape to defend planets without needing to go through the government. Although Idk how actual mineral resources stack up
Hey can someone help me with my *Solarian History 2* homework?
The current question is:
> Compare and contrast the Solarian Iron Dominion with the Combine Military Authority as well as how the circumstances of their creation pertaining to the Great Glassing and Archaeo-reversion attack are similar and different
To clarify I'm not asking anyone to write the whole essay for me but some pointers on what I can put there would be appreciated.
All of Terrasol needs some serious grief and trauma counseling. Also anxiety counseling.
The poor bastards were stuck in a hole for over 5 decades, trying to process that everything they knew would be gone. They could get hints and peeps now and then and nothing seemed good (like the shades squeezing through the tortured hypercom).
They prepared for the worst and...immediately were justified as an ancient foe has returned. Ancient to the rest of space but the scars are still fresh and in living memory for Humanity. The Confederacy is still there and still remembers them but half of the members immediately do something stupid by begging for their dead in a form of slavery, half of the other half are...weird. And all are begging to be saved.
Humanity needs another half century to screw its collective heads back on straight and they're not getting it. Because the readers, I mean Malevolent Universe, demand satisfaction!
Me against my brother...
Me and my brother against my cousin...
Me, my brother and my cousin against the World...
Me and my World against the Galaxy...
Me and my Galaxy against the Malevolent Universe...
- Traditional Jihad Call of the Holy Nomad Tribes of The Glassed Sea of The United Desert Deserts.
# The Solarian Iron Dominion
People are often confused with regard to human government.
This is entirely normal, as humans are often confused about their government.
Whatever they may call themselves, human governments always have some task they are expected to carry out without disrupting the lives of the people any more than they must to accomplish that task.
However, humans are naturally obstreperous. A wise government leaves avenues of expression open to the public. If you stifle all open forms of protest, the protests remain; they simply go underground to reemerge as violent rebellion seeking the destruction of a government that has overstepped its mandate.
The SID's mandate is simple.
Ensure that humanity will survive no matter what awaits it when The Bag reopens.
To accomplish this, several goals must be met:
- Sufficient war material must be amassed to counter even inconceivable levels of opposition.
- Sufficient warriors to operate the amassed war material must be born, trained, and preserved against future needs.
These two goals generate a series of necessary actions, some of which are listed here. The remainder are left as an exercise for the student.
- Research:
- Basic principles. Without basic research, you cannot find new effects useful in war.
- Weapons research, both new and improvements of existing systems. If you return with only what you had, you will lose.
- Banned systems. Many capabilities were abandoned due to the high probability of accidents or misuse causing global catastrophe. Those systems are prime candidates for research to make them safer and more effective. Some systems were relatively safe but abandoned due to perceived moral or ethical issues
- Personnel
- The population must grow.
- Training. That population must be capable of operating and maintaining the necessary systems.
- Preservation. The trained personnel must be preserved for future use.
- Production
- All war-critical production must be freed from interference by local governments.
- All material required by critical war production must be reserved.
- Production of any material required by war production must also be freed of local government interference.
- Politics.
- Propaganda to condition the population to the sometimes harsh measures required is essential.
- Despite the mandates, care must be taken to ensure the average citizen of local governments does not become sufficiently agitated to effectively rebel.
- Population growth must be accelerated to provide the warriors necessary.
Strangely enough, that last requirement caused the greatest problems and finally broke down the civilian resistance to conscription.
The population initiatives were so successful that population growth became a severe problem. The obvious answer was to conscript the excess population into the military, train them, and use the fortuitously provided cryosleep capability to preserve them against future needs.
— "An Introduction To The Solarian Iron Dominion", Academician W. H. Poohcan, University of Telkan
Now we ask the truly prudent and important historic questions like:
* Did the Terrans have explicit programming to be less horny relative to humans?
* Is this overbearing heat snowballing the moment they rolled back the changes an unintended consequences of those actions?
* Will humanity ever be able to keep it in its pants again?
1. No. Just reproductive sexuality. Projects Neighborhood and Streetlights curbed aggression, and the normalization of extremely casual and fetishistic sex as well as the artificial wombs would also curb sexuality in the reproductive sense. This is why you see Lady Keena going nuts with having babies compared to Terrans. She was stated to have a genetic defect in which she missed Neighborhood and Streetlights and she was a fantasy primitivist who refused artificial wombs and used casual sex to create her private army of loyal children. Ye olden days where you have 8+ but none of them die.
2. Partially but Terrans weren't exactly stable, peaceful, and gentle prior to the bag. Clownface happened just a few centuries before the bag.
3. Again? Was it ever?
*Casual* sex? Did you miss the chapter where Lady Keena explained to a squicked-out Nakteti the Traveller precisely how feudal relations worked on her planet?
So what I got from that is that they streamlined a bunch of governmental processes and everyone that is “conscripted” into cryo-reserves are really just a cover for a new dandelion fleet. Humanity has never had a shortage of volunteers to fight the Margite from what I can remember. With the old systems coming back online they’ll also have the clone worlds back in action.
I'd argue there's nothing *more* supportive of the Iron Dominion than talking about tiddies and drawing a dick on everything. Do. Your. Part. Be *Human*. Fuck it, eat it, or kill it.
Alright Starshit Troopers,
Listen up!
We are going in hot and hard. We will face the Margite and we will destroy them.
Your average lifetime expectancy will be around 10 minutes on the front.
Do Your Part!
Do not pay attention to the guy with the bionic arm. He got lucky. I went through the SUD system 3 times already. Get ready to die, maggots.
DO YOUR PART!
- A message that may or may not have originated from one of the LARP worlds.
Oh, fuck. Not another "chapter 25 week" again.
I still like the joke, in fact I still think it's absolutely hilarious every time I read it, but it's just annoyng as hell on repeat read throughs. Or whenever I need to go back and check a reference to something in one of the earlier chapters.
Hugo Boss inspired threads - ✔️, booming heavy brass dramatic music(klendathu drop) - ✔️, gratuitous amounts of ridiculous kinetic weaponry - ✔️, state run propaganda on overdrive - ✔️ "they'll keep fighting......AND THEY'LL WIN" ✔️. Heinlein approves this message, now.....where do I sign up for the mobile infantry?
Wouldn't you rather food services, or motor pool, perhaps handing out towels at the gym, communications, personnel? No. Mobile Infantry? You're sure? You're absolutely sure? I'll ask one more time, cause there are plenty of other necessary billets to fill. Ok you can have Mobile Infantry. We tried to warn you.
One of the nice things about the book (as opposed to the movie) is that M.I. in powered armor is too damn expensive in terms of equipment and training to waste like that.
"Why give so many outs to the one part of the Rights to Consent?"
"The thing about conscription is, you don't have to if everyone is bought in. And when you threaten a bunch of angry, wounded, and paranoid Humans with another extinction event, well, the ante is cheap."
To think, forty-eight thousand years ago, the mantid queens saw *that*. Not the Terran Decent Humanity that's so commonly associated with the Prime Miscalculation, but OG humans, and *still* thought "Yeah, I can take 'em." It really re-frames thinking about their thought process from "Damn, they were fucking stupid." To "Y'know, it's of my opinion that they weren't all that intelligent."
I think I figured it out. The Humans? They're scared.
They went from who knows how many systems to one. Their home. Their one place they were sure they were safe.
And it's because that one final safe spot, the Bastion at the End of the Line, was attacked. The sanctity of the hearth was broken. Inside every Human is a little kid that wants to run home and have Mommy kiss their boo-boos better.
And now Mommy has a black eye.
They're scared, they feel threatened, their flight-or-fight response is in full 5-star red alert danger zone critical *and they have nowhere to run.* So guess what they are going to do.
If they even think you are going to do so much as cough in their general direction and you'll be lucky if they only knock you back to the stone age.
Don't quote me anywhere near a human though, I like living.
Asking the Dominion to rejoin is not going to go over well, trying to force them (shudders), well, we all know how that would end.
Confederacy would be wise to surrender to the Solarian Iron Dominion. Now - before any foolish attempt to understand the Dominion causes fatal misunderstandings,
Complete and total surrender to the Will of the Universe will get you taken under the protection of the humans, and taught how to fight, survive and prosper the Human way.
A simple statement found outside the main campus of the University of South Africa in Pretori, South Africa holds a vivid simple description of how to destroy any nation state, be it planet bound or space bound. "Destroying any nation does not require the use of atomic bombs or the use of long range missiles. It only requires lowering the quality of education and allowing cheating in the examinations by the students." Nelson Mandela.
I am openly self explorative, and attempt to be openly honest about where I sit on the socio political scales. So while I identify as a Leftist idealistic fool some days, I can not condone writing something, or someone off with out exploring the deep complexities of their arguments . . . .even when it seems like the hamster at the controls has died and started a miniaturized black hole in their ability to think rationally, or critically.
"There are, within history, past, present, future, always there will and will always have been, people whose immediate reaction to anything they do not quite understand, or that which is new to them, or unheard of, or unthinkable to them... anyway, their reaction is to put a familiar label onto it.
If they deign whatever it is they are labeling to be positive by their momentary evaluation, the label will be related to something positive, trying to expand the terminology to include that which is new, but similar, to them. The same goes for neutral feelings. Or adverse feelings. And nowhere is this more prevalent than in political theory. It gives birth to many wonderful fallacies, truly, a marvel to behold. The sheer sophistry alone brings tears to the eyes of any being engrossed in the theory of politics.
But the question, the important one, and the realisation that it stems from, tends to elude those who label haphazardly. That question is: why was this course of action deemed necessary and right? Because, as with all things, a being does not consciously do something without justifying it to themselves, first.
The justification may be a flippant "I am bored, let's see if this amuses me". A need to possess, often maligned as greed. Some want to see the world burn for the sleights transgressed against them by it. Some wish to build utopia, no matter how many mass graves each building block will be made out of. Some wish to be left alone. Some wish to not leave alone. Conflict and resolution both spring from these justifications."
Alphonse Rubelia Schitt-Störer, Author "Bring some popcorn! Politics as a Spectator Sport"
1.25 billion humans is far far more than enough to ensure that the human population, once it is regrown as the most important resource for the entire government, system and species, that it does not run into any genetic inbreeding problems.
Aka if the malevolent universe would communicate, it'd just put a post it note on the fridge saying "Nice try killing them off, now get fucked."
Wait I'm confused Councilor, if you already knew of this change in government, why did you not inform the Rigelian government sooner?
Why? Because it's funny!
Ah crap, she's gone native.
Fascinating - they went from Star Trek Federation to Star Ship Troopers government. Which is better than going back to the 40k despotism that they were under. Ironically, their fascism does resemble "managed democracy" as espoused in Helldivers closest.
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Well there’s confirmation that the Atrekna archeo-reversion attack worked inside The Bag to turn TDH back to humans. I’m still a bit unclear on why the implants and cybernetics didn’t rebel against the change inside The Bag the way they did outside, though. Or maybe they did, and we just haven’t heard about it.
So I was playing some Azur lane (ship girl mobile game set in factional fantasy? WWII) earlier today and on the loading screen scroll pass "Iron blood" (German nazi faction in game) and "Vichya Dominion" (axis occupied French faction).... Remind me, what the humanity call the Nazi Germany again in this setting?? I'm now a bit concerned.
Everybody seems to be fixating on the *words* "Military Directorate", like it is some boogeyman dystopian Sci-Fi story.
For all we *know* this might be an inverse "people's democrat republic". It could also be a "map designation" - 'Solarian Military Directorate' here, Tau Ceti Military Directorate 'there', etc, etc.
TDH was pushed back to the heartland, there is no where else to fall back to. For all they've knew, the war was still going on "outside". They went to a wartime economy. The bag opened "early' from their perspective, they expected more time. But you go to war with the military assets you have on hand, not the ones you wanted.
By definition, I don't know WHAT the Solarian Iron Dominion actually has as a government. I am not endorsing nor praising fascism, totalitarianism, tyranny, martial law, despotism, or any other freedom confining political systems. My brain just spit this out today. I read it after it was posted. Something strange is going on in Human Land.
It's still democracy. The people chose this, and they haven't given up anything. They just don't want to die. What are they willing to give up so that they may survive? As for the nation-states all fighting, that's just par for the course. "We hate each other, but we hate everyone else more." *the universe liked that*
#MANAGED DEMOCRAZY
**HOW ABOUT A NICE CUP OF LIBER-TEA?**
*Did Someone Say The mar-gite were made out of Petroleum?*
And they touched one of our boats. I almost pity them.
*Here comes the sun, doo-dah-doo-doo!*
That made me LOL.
Sure, as soon as the Enemy has been... removed.
For Super TerraSol!
Interrupt their friendly fighting amongst each other at your own peril.
It's.... complicated
You say human politics are complicated? No. Juggling 5 balls on fire, while you are drunk and also on fire yourself, that's difficult. Trying to pin down an overgrown burgerland-swamp land reptile while singing the burgerland anthem backwards, that's difficult. Racing in the crashrider memorial international weapons-free cross-ocean derby challenge with a no-weapons handicap, that's difficult. Understanding human politics? It's insane. It cannot be described under just a few words like fascism or dictature. The humans are too complex, to emotional, they would never accept it. They had to create 3 new levels of military gouvernment and stuck then all drunk in a trenchcoat trying to pass them off as a whole different regime. It's mind boggling, it's crazy, it's..... Too insane to describe. And WHY did they do it? What reasoning can they give to such madness? Easy... It's FUN! Whoaii-Soh-Sairrri'ous, Pubvian Diplomat to the Iron Dominion. 2 years after the Great Bag Opening.
Complicated...? It is all a matter of perspective. It seems complicated until you close an eye. One Eyed perspective is ever so much easier to understand. Survival of the fittest now drives humanity. All else is subordinated to the goal of survival. Simple really, if you endanger survival you aren't one of Us. If you are of Them then you are likely the Enemy or a non-entity at best. Survival dictates removal of the Enemy The Enemy only exist to be destroyed.
Considering that the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Roman, I've always just assumed we can name our government whatever we want and then proceed to run it however we want; and the two things do not have to correlate. (Squints at the Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
DPRK: They managed to fit three lies into only four words.
"You have been banned from r/Pyongyang."
Damn, there goes my non-refundable deposit.
Love it
It is every so much simpler if you just close one eye instead of squinting. If you view the DPRK that way what you see out of one eye is democratic, what you don't see out of the other won't contradict your vision. Simple really.
Its sounds like a fascist government made by people who really want to leave themselves a way to pull back from it once the shooting is all over
Something humanity has a history of. Voting or walking into situations that you can only shoot your way out of.
I am outraged by the completely predictable consequences of my actions! Voting for the Weasles Eating Your Face Party seemed so reasonable at the time!
"Admittedly they were baby weasels in the campaign posters and adult weasels when they ate my face. How Was I Supposed To Know?"
Reaching out to the malevolent universe...with *hope*, with *friendship*, with a spirit of *peace*, .... and this Magac I found.
We really do. . .. even when the warning signed are literally being used to bludgeon us.
A political system grown in the fog of war? All this to confuse our young grass hopper?
You have been visited by the fairy of democracy, liberty and our way of life. Make the choice that will change your life. Become a Helldiver! Travel the galaxy! Visit new places! And kill everything that stand against managed democracy!
“Cryo-Reserves” and “to be determined” release date for conscripts… Sounds like an easy way to waaaay underreport populations without technically lying. Question is… what is the ratio of cryo reserves to reported population? Add in TerraSol having full access to the SUDS and Afterlife, those numbers could easily be comically large with tons of combat experience Edit: based on TerraSol revelations of severed diplomatic ties and “with me or against me” this gives a secondary perspective on the flat rejection of allowing the other Confederate members access to their people in Afterlife
50 years in the bag, 2.x generations of population created during that time with an actual *scoreboard* that may well have ousted She Who Has Birthed A Hundred from the competitive league. Napkin math is telling me if the entire adult population (rejuvination therapy is probably mandatory now) really goes for it the doubling time is going to be somewhere around 2 years. The first thirty years worth of this are adults now and contributing to the snowball. In-universe is probably lower than that, **but** we have force multipliers with cloning and DASS creches. Not to mention the Big Red Button that is going to make someone rename the Tomb Worlds.
Simple math - starting bag pop of 1.25B 60% female each having average of 10 kids at 50/50 Each of that generation repeats the process Subtract the 3-6B stated population and you are left with 34-37 Billion cryo reserves just by using natural birth. Now what would be somewhere between funny and hilarious would be the reactions from the older gestalts if TerraSol casually mentioned using Daxin and Kalki’s gene code to create entire divisions of Immortals offspring. Even funnier would be using their gene sequence as a new born whole template “just to supplement and spice things up a bit”
. . . .if Ralts yoiks the last half of that . . . . . . . . Fuck.
roflmao, it's probably already in the Maelstrom. Just waiting to flow to the keyboard for our purview. Go, Go, Wordsmith!
Daxin and the other Immortals earned their Rest. I think messing with a genetic template from their line would cause the same issue we have currently with Legion . .. . Make too many of them and Banmf. . you invoke their wrath . . .
> Now what would be somewhere between funny and hilarious would be the reactions from the older gestalts if TerraSol casually mentioned using Daxin and Kalki’s gene code to create entire divisions of Immortals offspring. Even funnier would be using their gene sequence as a new born whole template “just to supplement and spice things up a bit” so u/Ralts_Bloodthorne ... just how much did they change while inside the bag? What levels of inconceivable are being conceived?
"Der be a whole lot o' conceiving going on. Folks going to be getting really good from all the practicing they be doing.'
Thing is, a LOT of Terran/Humans would GLADLY come back for one more glorious war, for a variety of reasons. So we wouldn't necessarily have to conscript anyone from Afterlife, they might be begging to join the fight in a lot of cases.
I think too many are getting caught up in the word fascist and have forgotten that this story is pure imagination. Historical events don't have anything to do with it. But we're trying to communicate. I love your writing, not because it's accurate. I love it because it makes me *feel* something. Fascist is just a word that paints a picture of unified under one goal. For millions of words, you've painted a universe where we're stronger together, but it's the individual who matters. We rooted for our friends. We destroyed our enemies. All with the power of humanity. Now we're grappling with the *how* we get there. There's going to be messy parts. There's going to be misunderstandings and mistranslations. There's going to be things we hate and things we love, fear, and in the end, kindness. Let's not get caught up in terminology. I'm enjoying watching you define terms in your universe. There's billions of people right now, who have conflicting views on those terms anyways. Just continue to show us your vision and we'll all muddle thru till you define what you *mean*.
Well said!
The absolute fatal flaw of centrally managed economies is that they are incapable of managing anything well. Centralized planning means you wont have the granular knowledge that makes for efficient systems. The Iron Dominion seems to have figured out how to localize decisions and priorities, spread out the thinking part of management, kept the discussion and disagreement that is essential to successful planning, and kept most people rowing in the same direction. At the end of the day, when you are against the wall, you want to live. Your tribe, family, clan (Scottish sense of the word, you weirdos) want to live. Everyone on earth understands the stakes. The only disagreement is on the how, and humans can do more than one thing at a time.
Kith and Kin is a good way say the this. Defined : noun 1. Both [friends](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=friends+definition&ia=definition) and [family](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=family+definition&ia=definition). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • # If you threaten my Kith and Kin, you are the "other". This makes you the enemy and the enemy only exist to be destroyed. Knowing was had and smiles followed. End of Lime.
Give you one guess who was in charge of their planning....
Supreme dictator for life or as soon as we decide he can step down Tik-Tak.
Supreme Dictator Until He Escapes
Not a hope. While Tik-Tak was a planning and resource finding Genius. . . .even when fighting the Whole bio-bullshit, of the Dweller Spawn that was the second war of First and Second Telkan. He used diplomacy, and worked on a democratic point of view. .. . . .all I know. .. . Is when Dee hears about this shit. . . .. . .I truly pity that Lawyer from the last chapter. . .. .
There are things even Lawyers fear. Justifiably so!
And while there are some Lawyers that may actually do the Detainee's work. The absolute distain that Dee has expressed towards Communism and Fascism, would make all but the most deluded, and dedicated Lawyers to the SID government, want to run, hide, and start finding small things that they can do in the background that would slowly undermine the regime. Cause when Dee shows up . . . .ye be Fucked if you be against her.
It seems to have its roots in the Roman position of dictator, as a logical outgrowths of the Total War protocols.
For another example of this, see the analog to Panama in Tom Kratman's Carreraverse novels
It has what it needs for humanity to survive, no more and no less
So, would you say, “ITS WHAT *humans* CRAVE!”
Genetically
CHOCOLATE!!!
Brawndo?
> I don't know WHAT the Solarian Iron Dominion actually has as a government. I'd say necessary evil.
More like a contradictory orgy.
Truly these are confusing times for the Solarian Clusterspunk.
I think its some kind of fascist government but it doesn’t have a dictator or a war footing, so its gone into some kind of preservation mode where it pretends to be benevolent.
Picture a galactic scale pissed off momma bear and you wont be too far off, except it's a terrasol momma bear. Not one of ours. So it's at least half gene mods and cybernetics by weight. And that isn't even the scary half
The scary part is that its base genome comes from recovered cave bear DNA.
Short-faced Mama Bear!
It's Pinochet's system of national capitalism under a junta on a larger, looser scale rather than true fascism. Mussolini before the reforms of the second Italian-Abyssinian conflict is a better example of true fascism in which large industry has more freedom and isn't strictly military owned.
Franco's Spain from the Civil War until the Opus Dei technocrats took over in the 1960s was also like this: industries were privately owned but did what the Caudillo wanted.
Falangism. Kinda yeah.
We did something similar during WW2, and I'm not talking about the Nazis. Pretty much all America's infrastructure went to a war footing to beat the Nazis. It Beggs the question. In a post scarcity society, with informed consent, freedom of speech and right to bear arms in place, is it really a fascism? I would call more of war footing republic more than anything
Not going to shit up the comments (further) with politics, but if you want an excellent grounding in the various flavors of Fascism in different countries, I recommend Stanley Payne's Fascism: Comparison & Definition. May cause exclamations of "Real Fascism has never been tried!" https://amzn.to/45IsnJp
Thanks! I'll look into it.
I can totally see it. Sort of like the old Roman dictator. Limited and within a set of written or unwritten but commonly accepted laws, humans will give up many "rights" in order to plow thru a bad situation. Those in charge know that they can't get away with total totalitarianism and don't want to. Totalitarianism always violates information entropy. However if you can find a benevolent king to force solutions on the grand scale while individuals still figure out how to solve the issues at the individual scale. That said, they also need to have a negative feedback loop or else the totalitarian state will become just as big of an existential threat as any outside force. Basically central planning can produce amazing things quickly... But they are also highly entropic so they tend to stagnate over the long term or they move in the wrong direction if run by the incompetent. Basically it is better to still be alive and have a shitty temporary asshole govt than be dead while arguing over who is "best girl."
Strange is as strange does. It matters not in the end. Evolution, Mother Earth, and the Malevolent Universe dictate which roads allow the species to survive and maybe, just maybe, thrive. The competing forces that shape humanity's options create some strange paths indeed. Stay on a path, no matter how strange, or fall by the wayside.
Smells of Psy-Ops to me, humanity has a... reputation, that when things get bad they get mean. They know that the universe outside may see them as the terrors and they are playing into that while not really changing from how their system ran. Instead of walk softy and carry a big stick, they choose the bust in like the kool-aid man carrying a baseball bat.(With a glove in the truck of the hover car so it's not considered pre-meditative)
That's... What the hell IS that? They're post-scarcity on individual levels, but on industrial complex levels they aren't. The Iron Dominion needs to use the gas giants to feed the war machine. And they need people, but they're sticking the conscripts into deep-freeze? And is that before or after training? Or are they getting neural mapped training in cryo? There are so many questions!!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
You say that now but happens when some watery tart gives you the "Sword"
Is it not obvious... u/ralts_bloodthorne shared a few SUDS with the ghost of RA Heinlein last week... and the 4 years previously *Would you like to know more...*
Never ment to imply that you did, would have, and I certainly damn well understand from reading between the lines of the previous almost 1200 chapters, that as a whole, never to assume that Humans/Earthlings/TDH or anybeing in this amazing story is what it appears to be on the surface. You literally grabbed lightning, and have been channelling the information that is trying to find a way out of your head. I judge not. Well mor accurately I do not judge you for making the Solarian Iron Dominion basically a Diplomatic Fascist government. I Judge the SID . . . . .wait. . . .OK brain is not allowed to abbreviate this late at night any more. SID I will judge Soley on the actions, choices and acts of wanton Destruction perpetrates by them.While . . . subconsciously they may be a teeny tiny fragmation of your persona (more than likely created by the roller coaster ride of elections the world is going through), it might represent how you are making sure those thoughts do not take up residence in your head. ... .or at least that's what my insomniac ADHD medication wore out HOURS ago is grasping at so I can appreciate the complexity of the stupidity of Humanity . . . .In the very far future . . . .cause I gave up on figuring out Humanity's Stupidity that is currently happening.
It sounds like a bunch of sober drunks trying really hard not shoot each other in the dick, because Jim from the next town over may be coming by.
One way to look at is that humanity is the third chimp fighting to get his children on Noah's ark. Some days it is raining and others it is not
What's that line? If we don't even know what we're doing then how can the enemy figure out what we'll do next? Also: Wait, how does your government work? That's the neat part, it doesn't. But then why have it? It's keeping you busy isn't it?
"Before doing a thing, I think to myself, *Would doing this thing potentially motivate a Terran to kill me?* If I think it could, then I do not do that thing." ~ Great Grand Most High Av'err'itri'skk'moo, Lankatallan Unified Ethics Council --- "No, the machines aren't alive; their *spirits* are alive. They don't usually care about their *shells*; they care about their *selves*. And some of them need tough love, so **hit the fucking housing with the fucking sledgehammer, private first class!**" ~ First Lieutenant Mekkani'ik, Telkan Marine Corps Logistics Battalion, Second Precursor War --- "I'm the big dog, motherfucker! I'm the motherfucking big dog!" ~ Lance Corporal Ontrim, Tukna'rn Marine Corps designated automatic rifleman, providing doctrine-approved suppressive fire and a doctrine-approved war cry --- "It's not that we think fascism is cool, it's just that it's the fastest way to werf the enemy's flammens, you know?" ~ Chief Warrant Officer 3 Shan "Hans" Nash, Solarian Iron Dominion Navy, Spurwide Mar-gite Conflict
"We can be well dressed wearing those fashionable skull decorations and do our job in a orderly fashion without being the baddies, ja. We are professionals, not barbarians." Rifleman Gunter G Gunter, Solarian Iron Dominion Navy, Spurwide Mar-gite Conflict
This is fantastic, too! GOOD JOB!
You got yoinked! Nice!
7 BC (bag closed) The humming of the mat-trans unit is the corner fades as a chair creaks under the settling weight of a bespectacled grey haired woman. As the view pans to right it is obvious that the conference table is crowded with similar tense people sitting attentively. The grandfatherly figure at the head of the table started speaking in a pleasantly congenial voice. "Alright, everyone. This isn't news to most of you but remember this black box project is now sealed so free discussions are encouraged. We're meant to be the brains that *advise* the powers that pay for this here *ThinkTank*. The Bag is screwy, Sol system's faster time dilation has decayed. It's already spinning faster out there than in here, and the dilation is accelerating. We need short-term, mid-term, and long-term scenarios yesterday. Short-term worst case everything first. Then back things off to fill every eventuality. Start mid-term analysis in a week but only allocate what you can spare from short term. Long-term can wait. Questions? OK, overviews in 24 hours. If you don't get a redirect I want actionable plans in 72 hours and details within the month. Let's get this shit show underway." ***Audio/video recording found in Dr. Snipend notes*** 8 BC ".... on the inter-species interaction front, long-term analysis shows that we have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that the allies are not socially or psychohistorically advanced enough to sustain the flame of determination to ensure that the Confederacy continues to thrive in our absence. The longer the Bag remains closed, the higher the probability is that the Confederacy will be fractured and the allied members backsliding ever faster to their pre-humanity state of stagnation. The good news is, based on the analysis of how we educated and inspired them on our first.. uhhh...*meetings*, we have a solution. We just need to scare them straight and drive them hard. They should join us voluntarily, like new conscripts if we do it right. The Xenopsychologists had even better news. For all their species and cultural variation, there is one thing that is guaranteed to scare them straight. The reason they trust our aggressive culture is government oversight. They feel the civilians ultimately hold the reins of our rambunctious militaries. They suggest that we just reverse the power structure and put the military in charge of *everything*. Martial law with a fancy name should do the trick." ***Excerpt of ThinkTank Director reporting to a closed session of the United Sol System Inner Cabinet***
[Edited: to correct for time dilation event error.]
I like it, but only thing wrong about this is that this wouldn't have happened right at the beginning or even the 3-4 year mark in bag. Remember that initially the bag was moving faster than the universe to ensure that humanity gets more time to come out swinging. It was only some time later with the Atrekna attack, that the direction flipped. The initial few years in the bag would have been about reinforcing the total war protocols and ensuring that we had enough man power available.
I forgot that little detail... thanks for pointing it out.
OK, adjusted. I hope that fits better with Ralt's arc.
Great! Hope it gets yoinked! :)
Well, this is fucking fantastic! GOOD JOB DOING YOUR PART!
It seems like the Iron Dominion is less about horrible Tyranny and more about cutting out the debate in order to do *something*. No time for talks about ethics or efficiency, can't think just gotta act on a system wide scale. They aren't here to crush the little guy theyre here to make sure the little guy survives whether they like it or not. Remember in First Contact when the earth Gestalt came back for a little bit and was suuuper divided and arguing with itself constantly over every little fuckin thing? I doubt that system could survive what's going on right now, The Iron Dominion will.
Yeah it's similar to the crises that resulted in emergency powers being granted to the Roman Consul, followed by Caesar forming the empire.
>cruises then mothballed around the super-massive gas giant Urectum. Even more curious Urectum? You damn near killed 'em! That is all.
Take My UpVote and Be gone. (The nerve, using such language)
“There is a saying on the cradle world of humankind that has a thousand iterations but a single meaning: It isn’t over until it’s over. With respect to our human friends and allies, allow me to offer this slightly corrected saying as the rest of the galaxy knows it: It isn’t over until the humans say it’s over. It doesn’t matter what the situation is. It doesn’t matter how long the odds are. It doesn’t matter if every sapient ever to live, every god ever known and the laws of physics and reality itself say that it *should* be over. If the humans didn’t hear no bell, then the matter isn’t concluded and won’t be until they’re convinced it is. And good luck convincing an enraged, stubborn, defiant human of anything.” - Excerpted from ‘*Iron Blood, Iron Will: A primer on Humanity*’
Ladies, Gentlemen, Both, and Neither, Humans saved us. Our world, our children, our ducks. Humans chased away all the things in the universe that sought to destroy us. Time and again. No matter how strong, no matter what it cost them. They saved us, and called us their friends. And my ancestors did the dumbest, most wonderful thing. They called Humans "Friend" back. And meant it. So when the humans taught us their way of war, we learned it. When they taught us their way of travel, we learned that, too. And when they taught us what it meant to be friends, when they sacrificed everything but their home system for us? Well, what did we learn? I urge you, all of you, do not make the mistake of forgetting who our friends are, have been, and always should be. Vote to ally with the Humans. No matter what they call themselves now. No matter what it costs us. No matter what we have to do. There's only one thing to say to them right now. And everyone's so busy asking Humans to save their asses or give them slaves to work to death again that they've forgotten what we've been shown, been taught. What you say to a friend that's about to go to war. What you say to a friend that just spent forty thousand years stuck in a hole. If you cowards won't say it, I will personally give up my office and kick all of your asses and ask them myself. "Do you need assistance?" -recorded on the Rigellian Saurian Compact Senate floor.
***To truly know another first you must understand their soul . -- So sayeth the Holy Book.*** My mother spent her life in service to her people. She spent a lifetime in the void, seeking out hidden gems of knowledge and wisdom to keep her people safe. The knowledge she gained about the Terrors, or the Terrans as they prefer to be called, fill entire libraries. She was there to witness their return and the start of the Orion Arm War. She called them friend and showed them the respect appropriate for clan-kin. She knew them better than any other of our people. But if you were to ask, she would tell you all you needed to know about them could be summed up in one sentence. A sentence that was at the core of who they were. A sentence that should rightfully send chills through whoever heard it. *We're not done yet.* ***-- Battle Master Sethanathi,*** ***Orion Arm War Fleet Commander***.
Hope this gets Yoinked!!!
A scene of protestors waving signs demanding the suspension of conscription, throwing teargas and projectiles, smashing windows, destroying vehicles. Law Enforcement began arresting them. Some of them paused, looking at the camera. "We're doing our part!" the Law Enforcement *and* the protestors exclaimed. Maintaining the vital traditions of Public Protest and the Rule of Law. Don't let these things die out. Do your part.
Is it confusing? During Desert Shield then Desert Storm there was political and war specific media everywhere. We absolutely were going over to kick ass. And outside the gates of my base there were three groups. A group protesting us in conflict, a group protesting the first protesters, and police on hand to make sure neither of the previous groups hurt each other. From the military we looked at the protesters and said "I do this so you can call me a monster." Bahn'yaad does politics the way we wish things were done. Following in the footsteps of a human senator from the first Margite War. Someone said something lazy and stupid. And they replied in violence to show how that does not work. Bahn' in my opinion was classier by passing on the rest of his ammunition to let others voice their displeasure as well. Why is someone doing their civilian job doing their part? If we all march to war we surrender being human. Having those we care about behind us ***is*** the wall humans will fight beyond the end to protect. Why are troops going to cryo? We do not know where we need them yet. They will be young and ready to rock when the time comes. Before that we preserve resources. It is cold and pragmatic, but that is sometimes what is needed in War.
o7 fellow Storm Rider.
The troops going into cryo are probably volunteers anyway. After 8,000 years TerraSol has probably developed acceptable procedures for this and it's no doubt as remarkable to them now as wearing a hat is to us. Not everyone does it but it's still a thing that people do. 100 years in cryo? Imagine the back pay!
At first I was appalled at what humanity has become but then I looked closer. I then found myself simply disappointed at how far they had fallen from enlightenment, but then I looked closer. The closer I look the more I realize that I’m damn sure they’re all just taking the piss. I should have expected as much.
everyone's doing their part! and i'd like to know more!
Listen, the current system is insane and self conflicting, but it works with minimal self immolation and that's what matter. That and building an extra large can of ass whooping for everything that even looks at humanity funny. Or thinks about us funny. Or possibly can think about looking at humanity funny. We'll figure out everything after the fighting ends. Or, more likely, go back to fighting each other as is tradition.
As is tradition.
Oh no, there's still self-immolation going on, but at least your food cold-storage doesn't brick itself.
"Humans coming out of the bag was a very confusing experience for everyone involved. As anyone, who studied humans properly, would assess, they came out ready to fight. What was surprising was how it looked up close. With facist, yet very liberal government and militarised, yet very relaxed society. What we did not understand, was that, this was Humanity being ready, rested and reloaded. Not as an army, but as a species." - Tea'cher'moo "On the events of Terran Reemergence book 1 of 75" 62 ATR (After Terran Reemergence)
Maybe the government is just calling themselves tyrannical fascists to head off any allegations from people who don't like the change? In FC contact the vibe I got was the the Sol Government literally didnt give a shit about civil matters as long as you weren't causing issues, so having to keep track of all the resources in the system and instuting the draft and federalizing industry is a pretty big step up in control. Now people have to say this really isn't all that bad instead of screaming about how [new gov.] is tyrannical fascism in disguise or around the pike. Edit: also it sounds cool af and you can have cool uniforms with lots of gold braid and peaked caps with shiny visors and eagles
Or it's a joke 50 years in the making, just to see the council's faces when they learn about it.
That would be pretty funny And also pretty human
Super Senator Spy Ba'hrn Yahrd was the one that came up with it to fuck with everyone else.
Uniforms get dirty, I don't care about the *cool styling*. Just give me a big f'ing gun and lots, LOTS, of ammo.
Some shenanigans were needing shenanigans. Being a T1 resource, probably means the military can cut a fuck ton of red tape to defend planets without needing to go through the government. Although Idk how actual mineral resources stack up
Hey can someone help me with my *Solarian History 2* homework? The current question is: > Compare and contrast the Solarian Iron Dominion with the Combine Military Authority as well as how the circumstances of their creation pertaining to the Great Glassing and Archaeo-reversion attack are similar and different To clarify I'm not asking anyone to write the whole essay for me but some pointers on what I can put there would be appreciated.
All of Terrasol needs some serious grief and trauma counseling. Also anxiety counseling. The poor bastards were stuck in a hole for over 5 decades, trying to process that everything they knew would be gone. They could get hints and peeps now and then and nothing seemed good (like the shades squeezing through the tortured hypercom). They prepared for the worst and...immediately were justified as an ancient foe has returned. Ancient to the rest of space but the scars are still fresh and in living memory for Humanity. The Confederacy is still there and still remembers them but half of the members immediately do something stupid by begging for their dead in a form of slavery, half of the other half are...weird. And all are begging to be saved. Humanity needs another half century to screw its collective heads back on straight and they're not getting it. Because the readers, I mean Malevolent Universe, demand satisfaction!
Dee is busy right now. Don't bother trying again until you're dead.
> "I'm doing my part!" she exclaimed in a chipper tone. Never forget Buenos Aires.
I am glad someone else got the reference.
Me against my brother... Me and my brother against my cousin... Me, my brother and my cousin against the World... Me and my World against the Galaxy... Me and my Galaxy against the Malevolent Universe... - Traditional Jihad Call of the Holy Nomad Tribes of The Glassed Sea of The United Desert Deserts.
# The Solarian Iron Dominion People are often confused with regard to human government. This is entirely normal, as humans are often confused about their government. Whatever they may call themselves, human governments always have some task they are expected to carry out without disrupting the lives of the people any more than they must to accomplish that task. However, humans are naturally obstreperous. A wise government leaves avenues of expression open to the public. If you stifle all open forms of protest, the protests remain; they simply go underground to reemerge as violent rebellion seeking the destruction of a government that has overstepped its mandate. The SID's mandate is simple. Ensure that humanity will survive no matter what awaits it when The Bag reopens. To accomplish this, several goals must be met: - Sufficient war material must be amassed to counter even inconceivable levels of opposition. - Sufficient warriors to operate the amassed war material must be born, trained, and preserved against future needs. These two goals generate a series of necessary actions, some of which are listed here. The remainder are left as an exercise for the student. - Research: - Basic principles. Without basic research, you cannot find new effects useful in war. - Weapons research, both new and improvements of existing systems. If you return with only what you had, you will lose. - Banned systems. Many capabilities were abandoned due to the high probability of accidents or misuse causing global catastrophe. Those systems are prime candidates for research to make them safer and more effective. Some systems were relatively safe but abandoned due to perceived moral or ethical issues - Personnel - The population must grow. - Training. That population must be capable of operating and maintaining the necessary systems. - Preservation. The trained personnel must be preserved for future use. - Production - All war-critical production must be freed from interference by local governments. - All material required by critical war production must be reserved. - Production of any material required by war production must also be freed of local government interference. - Politics. - Propaganda to condition the population to the sometimes harsh measures required is essential. - Despite the mandates, care must be taken to ensure the average citizen of local governments does not become sufficiently agitated to effectively rebel. - Population growth must be accelerated to provide the warriors necessary. Strangely enough, that last requirement caused the greatest problems and finally broke down the civilian resistance to conscription. The population initiatives were so successful that population growth became a severe problem. The obvious answer was to conscript the excess population into the military, train them, and use the fortuitously provided cryosleep capability to preserve them against future needs. — "An Introduction To The Solarian Iron Dominion", Academician W. H. Poohcan, University of Telkan
Now we ask the truly prudent and important historic questions like: * Did the Terrans have explicit programming to be less horny relative to humans? * Is this overbearing heat snowballing the moment they rolled back the changes an unintended consequences of those actions? * Will humanity ever be able to keep it in its pants again?
1. No. Just reproductive sexuality. Projects Neighborhood and Streetlights curbed aggression, and the normalization of extremely casual and fetishistic sex as well as the artificial wombs would also curb sexuality in the reproductive sense. This is why you see Lady Keena going nuts with having babies compared to Terrans. She was stated to have a genetic defect in which she missed Neighborhood and Streetlights and she was a fantasy primitivist who refused artificial wombs and used casual sex to create her private army of loyal children. Ye olden days where you have 8+ but none of them die. 2. Partially but Terrans weren't exactly stable, peaceful, and gentle prior to the bag. Clownface happened just a few centuries before the bag. 3. Again? Was it ever?
**4.** Will this society survive telling the horny-programmed citizens that they can not the xenos?
They will the xenos.
I know, the question is will this be the thing that breaks them?
*Casual* sex? Did you miss the chapter where Lady Keena explained to a squicked-out Nakteti the Traveller precisely how feudal relations worked on her planet?
Ok two doses...er...days back has made withdrawal symptoms more manageable. Thank goodness. End of lime.
So what I got from that is that they streamlined a bunch of governmental processes and everyone that is “conscripted” into cryo-reserves are really just a cover for a new dandelion fleet. Humanity has never had a shortage of volunteers to fight the Margite from what I can remember. With the old systems coming back online they’ll also have the clone worlds back in action.
Well alright then. Humanity Unleashed.
I can taste the raltsberries.
BEWARE THE TIDDLES
I thought that said BEWARE THE TIDDIES at first
I'm crazy enough to joke with the Iron Dominion. I'm not *that* crazy
I'd argue there's nothing *more* supportive of the Iron Dominion than talking about tiddies and drawing a dick on everything. Do. Your. Part. Be *Human*. Fuck it, eat it, or kill it.
THE PLANET *URECTUM*
Oh my, yes. You see, astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.
Here, let me locate it for you
NO! no. I think I'll just sniff around over here.
Did we get a second 75? Is this a thing now?
It seems to happen quarterly....
The last one was actually 55.
You are correct sir. ( adjusts glasses and looks, again, for the magnifying glass )... Remains blind :-l
50, 55... I'm sure it falls within the margin of error...
Oh the poor little mantid, he just thinks he's confused wait till he finds out the truth then he will be confused!
I mean this dose explain why tik tac is still in the army was probably drafted to be incharge of the sol industrial complex
Nobody better.
Not drafted. Either recalled or stop lossed. Or...voluntarily returned to service.
Thrice burned, now thrice over the universe will burn so that that infection can be cured. The enemy only exists to be destroyed.
R̷̡̡͔̭̊̊̂̈̓̿̈́͐̅̀͜͝͠Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝EË̴̪́͐̐̉̈́̀͒̔͘Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓͝ Ě̸̛̃̈́Ë̵̞͂̃̄̂̊̍͋̃̏͆̚͘̚͝͝É̸͙̥̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝ER Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝EË̴̪́͐̐̉̈́̀͒̔͘Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓͝ Ě̸̛̃̈́Ë̵̞͂̃̄̂̊̍͋̃̏͆̚͘̚͝͝É̸͙̥̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝ER Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝EË̴̪́͐̐̉̈́̀͒̔͘Ě̴̽̃̂͐̂͂É̸̅̈́̋̀̓͝ Ě̸̛̃̈́Ë̵̞͂̃̄̂̊̍͋̃̏͆̚͘̚͝͝É̸͙̥̅̈́̋̀̓̑́͂́̒̀͊͝E
Hug.
I see. Astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all..
And then perpetuated the joke by only going slightly further up the GI tract.
Alright Starshit Troopers, Listen up! We are going in hot and hard. We will face the Margite and we will destroy them. Your average lifetime expectancy will be around 10 minutes on the front. Do Your Part! Do not pay attention to the guy with the bionic arm. He got lucky. I went through the SUD system 3 times already. Get ready to die, maggots. DO YOUR PART! - A message that may or may not have originated from one of the LARP worlds.
Oh, fuck. Not another "chapter 25 week" again. I still like the joke, in fact I still think it's absolutely hilarious every time I read it, but it's just annoyng as hell on repeat read throughs. Or whenever I need to go back and check a reference to something in one of the earlier chapters.
I missed that!
Dang straight. 75 is just 25 + 25 +25 Three times the goodness!
Hugo Boss inspired threads - ✔️, booming heavy brass dramatic music(klendathu drop) - ✔️, gratuitous amounts of ridiculous kinetic weaponry - ✔️, state run propaganda on overdrive - ✔️ "they'll keep fighting......AND THEY'LL WIN" ✔️. Heinlein approves this message, now.....where do I sign up for the mobile infantry?
MI LEADS THE WAY
Wouldn't you rather food services, or motor pool, perhaps handing out towels at the gym, communications, personnel? No. Mobile Infantry? You're sure? You're absolutely sure? I'll ask one more time, cause there are plenty of other necessary billets to fill. Ok you can have Mobile Infantry. We tried to warn you.
On the bounce, Trooper.
I heard the grinders are in need of meat.
One of the nice things about the book (as opposed to the movie) is that M.I. in powered armor is too damn expensive in terms of equipment and training to waste like that.
MI in the book is like Nova Star Mk 1.
What, no "Ludicrous" class weapons??
Urectum........That cracked me up! best laugh I had in a while
Ahh CH75A1
"Why give so many outs to the one part of the Rights to Consent?" "The thing about conscription is, you don't have to if everyone is bought in. And when you threaten a bunch of angry, wounded, and paranoid Humans with another extinction event, well, the ante is cheap."
Moo
Moo
UTR, I'm doing my part !
So glad to see you back. UTR.
Rectum? *snirk*
>inside The Bad, forty-thousand years had gone by outside Hmmm. I thing it's supposed to be "Bag"...
Are you a friend or foe? We'll find out one way or another. -unknown human
LONG LIVE CHAPTER 75!
To think, forty-eight thousand years ago, the mantid queens saw *that*. Not the Terran Decent Humanity that's so commonly associated with the Prime Miscalculation, but OG humans, and *still* thought "Yeah, I can take 'em." It really re-frames thinking about their thought process from "Damn, they were fucking stupid." To "Y'know, it's of my opinion that they weren't all that intelligent."
I think I figured it out. The Humans? They're scared. They went from who knows how many systems to one. Their home. Their one place they were sure they were safe. And it's because that one final safe spot, the Bastion at the End of the Line, was attacked. The sanctity of the hearth was broken. Inside every Human is a little kid that wants to run home and have Mommy kiss their boo-boos better. And now Mommy has a black eye. They're scared, they feel threatened, their flight-or-fight response is in full 5-star red alert danger zone critical *and they have nowhere to run.* So guess what they are going to do. If they even think you are going to do so much as cough in their general direction and you'll be lucky if they only knock you back to the stone age. Don't quote me anywhere near a human though, I like living.
Asking the Dominion to rejoin is not going to go over well, trying to force them (shudders), well, we all know how that would end. Confederacy would be wise to surrender to the Solarian Iron Dominion. Now - before any foolish attempt to understand the Dominion causes fatal misunderstandings, Complete and total surrender to the Will of the Universe will get you taken under the protection of the humans, and taught how to fight, survive and prosper the Human way.
A simple statement found outside the main campus of the University of South Africa in Pretori, South Africa holds a vivid simple description of how to destroy any nation state, be it planet bound or space bound. "Destroying any nation does not require the use of atomic bombs or the use of long range missiles. It only requires lowering the quality of education and allowing cheating in the examinations by the students." Nelson Mandela. I am openly self explorative, and attempt to be openly honest about where I sit on the socio political scales. So while I identify as a Leftist idealistic fool some days, I can not condone writing something, or someone off with out exploring the deep complexities of their arguments . . . .even when it seems like the hamster at the controls has died and started a miniaturized black hole in their ability to think rationally, or critically.
"There are, within history, past, present, future, always there will and will always have been, people whose immediate reaction to anything they do not quite understand, or that which is new to them, or unheard of, or unthinkable to them... anyway, their reaction is to put a familiar label onto it. If they deign whatever it is they are labeling to be positive by their momentary evaluation, the label will be related to something positive, trying to expand the terminology to include that which is new, but similar, to them. The same goes for neutral feelings. Or adverse feelings. And nowhere is this more prevalent than in political theory. It gives birth to many wonderful fallacies, truly, a marvel to behold. The sheer sophistry alone brings tears to the eyes of any being engrossed in the theory of politics. But the question, the important one, and the realisation that it stems from, tends to elude those who label haphazardly. That question is: why was this course of action deemed necessary and right? Because, as with all things, a being does not consciously do something without justifying it to themselves, first. The justification may be a flippant "I am bored, let's see if this amuses me". A need to possess, often maligned as greed. Some want to see the world burn for the sleights transgressed against them by it. Some wish to build utopia, no matter how many mass graves each building block will be made out of. Some wish to be left alone. Some wish to not leave alone. Conflict and resolution both spring from these justifications." Alphonse Rubelia Schitt-Störer, Author "Bring some popcorn! Politics as a Spectator Sport"
1.25 billion humans is far far more than enough to ensure that the human population, once it is regrown as the most important resource for the entire government, system and species, that it does not run into any genetic inbreeding problems. Aka if the malevolent universe would communicate, it'd just put a post it note on the fridge saying "Nice try killing them off, now get fucked."
So an entire post is a nod to late and most excellent Robert A. Heinlein .
Wait I'm confused Councilor, if you already knew of this change in government, why did you not inform the Rigelian government sooner? Why? Because it's funny! Ah crap, she's gone native.
UTR!
UTR 6 minutes ago!! Wow.. just, wow.
I got a bad feeling about this folks.
I dunno whats going on and I dont like it.
UTR 2 hours late due to work complications.
Fascinating - they went from Star Trek Federation to Star Ship Troopers government. Which is better than going back to the 40k despotism that they were under. Ironically, their fascism does resemble "managed democracy" as espoused in Helldivers closest.
One of Humanity's favorite things to do is show the good under all the evil, and the evil under all the good.
UTR!
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I've got it figured out: SOLARIAN IRON DOMINION is simply an anagram for ADIOS OIL LININ IRONMAN.
Well there’s confirmation that the Atrekna archeo-reversion attack worked inside The Bag to turn TDH back to humans. I’m still a bit unclear on why the implants and cybernetics didn’t rebel against the change inside The Bag the way they did outside, though. Or maybe they did, and we just haven’t heard about it.
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It occured to me to wonder. What effect did the network surreptitious messaging have on Terrans?
So I was playing some Azur lane (ship girl mobile game set in factional fantasy? WWII) earlier today and on the loading screen scroll pass "Iron blood" (German nazi faction in game) and "Vichya Dominion" (axis occupied French faction).... Remind me, what the humanity call the Nazi Germany again in this setting?? I'm now a bit concerned.
Violet should go in some time dilation chamber and spend a year with most peaceful humans,, in these story then she/he/them/whatever might understand
Everybody seems to be fixating on the *words* "Military Directorate", like it is some boogeyman dystopian Sci-Fi story. For all we *know* this might be an inverse "people's democrat republic". It could also be a "map designation" - 'Solarian Military Directorate' here, Tau Ceti Military Directorate 'there', etc, etc. TDH was pushed back to the heartland, there is no where else to fall back to. For all they've knew, the war was still going on "outside". They went to a wartime economy. The bag opened "early' from their perspective, they expected more time. But you go to war with the military assets you have on hand, not the ones you wanted.