There's a whiteboard in the first Portal detailing what they know about Black Mesa and their portal research program.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Intel goes both ways. Whoever the source is could even be playing both sides. Maybe it's G-Man.
G-Man was supposed to make an appearance in Portal 2 but Valve didn't want to make the connection between HL and Portal too obvious so they removed it. G-Man definetely did something in Aperture.
"Opsec? Here's one for you: one op-fuckin'-second to get your stuff before i call security on you for trying to waste *my* money on """data security training""" . What do you think the turrets are for. "
if black mesa stole everything they knew about xen and teleportation from aperture since the 70s i'm surprised the borealis wasn't discovered before all of the combine stuff
Most of the Resistance's leaders are Ex-Black Mesa scientists. Black Mesa and Aperture were close competitors and I think the implication is that they were illegally peeking at each other's homework.
It’s not necessarily the key to defeating the combine, it’s local teleportation technology better than what black Mesa East has and honestly the best scientific creation for humanity. The combine only has extradimensional teleportation and therefore cannot conquer more than one planet in a universe without traveling extremely far distances and possibly running out of supplies before they can reach the next conquerable planet. This technology would allow them to literally go anywhere instantly and it would be game over for anyone that isn’t combine. Eli wants you to destroy it because even the chance of someone mishandling it would have absolutely horrible consequences. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is what I assume it to be based off of what Mossman’s whole thing is in Nova Prospekt, Eli in episode 2, and a few other moments in those games.
The way I interpreted it, is that the combine, don't even really open portals they just invade anyone that's dumb enough to do so. They can't really choose end points the technology on the ship does exactly that.
Reading this just makes me sad because Valve has such an incredible universe and lore and I don't even know if I will be alive to see and experience the culmination of it.
The >!retcon in H:Alyx!< was super interesting in my opinion but we technically just changed one cliffhanger for another without moving the whole borealis thing forward at all.
Fuck, I miss Half-Life...
If you don't mind >!H:Alyx changed the episode 2 ending by having G-man save Eli from the advisor thus changing the timeline but by doing so G-man takes Alyx with him. And the game ends with Eli giving the crowbar to Gordon!<
You have to remember that Laidlaw is no longer at Valve, he was Half-Life main writer, and with Alyx is clear that Valve is steering the story in a different direction. We'll see what they're planning in around... 15 years.
FTL still means months to years of space travel at a time. Portal tech would mean instantaneous travel from one end of the galaxy to the other. It's a huge plot point of both Farscape and Warhammer 40k iirc
I honestly find it hard to believe the Combine, a multi-dimensional empire with funding and resources human minds cannot accurately visualize, would have trouble figuring out something as basic as **local teleportation** especially when it has already been done by a handful of powerless humans on Earth.
It just sounds... contrived.
I believe they say it's a physics issue, like they could open a portal but our world is fundamentally different so all their stuff has to adapt. I could see them working on the "now" stuff and figuring their portal division will "get right on it" but are having big problems
No, I haven't played Half Life 2. I haven't even played the first one. In fact I don't even play Valve games. What are video games?
Dripping sarcasm aside, that is some peak Reddit. Passive aggressively asking if I played the game instead of just opting to **give the damn explanation.**
I’m not the person you replied to but from what I recall Judith has a whole thing mid game of HL2 where she explains that the combine are masters at invading worlds but once they’re here they dependent on local means of transportation to get around.
I know it sounds dumb but yes, the premise is that they’re really good at going interdimensional but really bad at teleporting down the road to the gas station.
Yeah I recall that, but it doesn't really explain *why* the Combine are dependent on conventional technology (apart from saying that don't know how to harness local teleportation but that would just lead right back to my original comment).
Maybe the worlds they invade are really alien to their own. So they adapt by using/modifying existing means of transportation of the invaded world.
Discovering a world that deals with teleportation and has successfully done so at a local scale would be a priority to them.
Exactly... fucking idiots saying shit that contributes nothing AT ALL to the questions, the same level of stupidity as "dont you guys have phones??"
Yeah, peak reddit. Lmao
I always interpreted the borealis as a mobile research vessel. I never thought the borealis itself was the important part, but some pre-combine invasion goodies from aperture left behind on there? They were a black mesa competitor, tons of potential that they had something the resistance would find useful. Especially since the vessel had vanished some decades ago, An entire research lab from aperture that hasn't been affected by the invasion? Anyone still alive would be incredibly valuable to the cause.
I didn’t think about it like that. If any of the surviving researchers were able to continue their research, completely uninterrupted by the Combine, who knows what they could’ve discovered in 20 years.
The Aperature Science Boot-Leg device that is housed on the Borealis is capable of star-level destruction if it malfunctions. It's main use was supposed to be for similar yet separate interdimensional space travel like how Black Mesa was using, only except it had no need for slingshotting around Xen as a tether: it simply *goes* to the other place.
The Combine want this not only so everyone else can't, but they also want it for the teleportation technology, possibly for reverse-engineering and practical use of their universal conquest.
It was at their facility, being prepared to be taken offsite somewhere remote where it could be tested. But, an accident on board occurred and the teleportation system activated sending the ship to somewhere unknown… “it even took some of the dry dock with it!”
You can see the aftermath damage of said dry dock in Portal 2.
I think it's supposed to be that, on top of having local teleportation, it can also be used to cross between universes. Maybe it's that it can travel directly to another universe without the use of a portal like what we see at the end of HL2 and in Episode 2. Or, maybe it can access the multiverse in the more common sense, in that it travel to alternate versions of Earth like in the Marvel movies, whereas the Combine seem to only be capable of traveling to other universes which are all completely different from the original universe.
Maybe in other media, but in Half-Life it's implied that there are no identical realities that you can travel to, since absolutely nothing from the alternate universes are remotely similar to anything in our universe, and the Combine are shown to have needed to develop their human Overwatch soldiers, meaning that they've never encountered us before. On top of that, Dr. Breen on numerous occasions state he is working towards the benefit of all humanity, which would be strange if there were already humans all over the Combine empire.
Replaces your blood with peanut oil or smth, idk whatever the expirements were in portal 2. If theres any gel on board they can use it to cover the combine in bouncy goo and make them bounce off earth.
I always thought that it had more of the gems / materials that created the resonance cascade which could be used to some degree to assist the resistance idk
I was with you until the unwarranted rudeness.
HLA directly confirms the entire franchise is going on a different path "This entity will continue" (new direction) "And this entity will not" (old direction.)
I know time-travel is more of an Epistle 3 idea, but I feel like that's what it likely is. I'd imagine being able to literally prevent the Black Mesa incident from occurring would be an effective way of stopping the Combine.
It supposedly has better portal technology than the combine, so humans could use it to open a portal to the combine overworld and drop a fat ass nuke on it
According to Mark Laidlaw's Epistle 3, It's a teleporter on steroids. It can teleport through space *and* time, and it makes use of an experimental "Bootstrap Device" which allows for insant interdimensional travel.
This information is not canon, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what it was supposed to do.
On another topic, totaly random, i think that the borelas could have disappeared becuase of a giant portal device, i watched in a star strek episode where part of the earth “portaled” to a spot above it. I think that somehow someone or something could have found tech to do that, what do u think
I always imagined Half life 3 and Portal 3 as a crossover. Half life 3 being the third instalment in both series and incorporating mechanics from both series.
I suspect it has multi-dimensional portal guns, and a much much larger portaling device that is able to teleport entire parts of aperture, which is why a large number of enrichment spheres are in the toxic water, and so I suspect it would be able to just teleport every single combine unit off of Earth and prevent them from ever being able to come back
Best guess is that it's supposed to be a transport or atleast a holder for some form of technology that could, if used, defeat the Combine in the long run, but we never get anything outside of the fact its owned by Aperture
I’m pretty sure one of the main technological goals of the combine is local teleportation. Even though they have interdimensional they have never quite developed local teleportation however the borealis has that exact technology. Even if the ship itself might not be super powerful, the scientific significance of it makes it one of the most important possessions of humanity.
I like EZ2's take on it that essentially >!something in the core gave it the ability to alter time, which even sent it back in time to before they even bought out the company that would investigate it in the first place. Things altered by this power seem to be able to manipulate time and teleport completely at will, which may even be why G-Man is able to do some of the things he does throughout the games. !<
The only reason the combine doesnt completely wipe humanity off the map is because of the production of resources and potential technology. One of those are the substantial improvements that Aperture have made to easy teleportation: AKA the portal gun. The Borealis is said to have a lot of miscellaneous highly valuable technology as it relates to portals.
1. what can it do?: that we know of. it can teleport to any point in space
2. why is it the key?: it's probably not, it's most probably just a powerful item the resistence wants to get their hands on, could work, could not.
based on writer's story: was a research vessel that was made to isolate the test in the sea but it went off before leaving the docks at aperture labs ! (you see the results in Portal 2)
the fan theory: is that this type of teleportation achieves the same result as the Xen-relay Teleportation that Black Mesa was researching without the Xen (exactly as the teleportation that the Gman is using) and it should be (in theory) able to teleport in universe and out of it
after this event a government investigation into the matter ended with no results as all key scientists where on the vessel and no information was found later
this investigation was the source of all the roamers that was known in the science community later
my guess is that it has advanced portal technology and maybe other powerful aperture stuff(like an infinite energy pellet)
But how would the resistance at white forest know that? Isnt that stuff like top secret?
To be fair, what do you honestly think cave johnson would say if an employee told him they need to improve their opsec?
There's a whiteboard in the first Portal detailing what they know about Black Mesa and their portal research program. I wouldn't be surprised if the Intel goes both ways. Whoever the source is could even be playing both sides. Maybe it's G-Man.
G-Man was supposed to make an appearance in Portal 2 but Valve didn't want to make the connection between HL and Portal too obvious so they removed it. G-Man definetely did something in Aperture.
Gman told Cave Johnson to make military contracts for science ofc.
Gman gave Cave all those lemons 🍋
Gman bought all of cave's shower curtains to give cave the money to buy the salt mine.
I suspect that my next have fun game will have combustible lemons as a grenade
Wait that means... GMAN IS LIFE
he'd tell them not to get their ass kicked by the door on their way out..
"Opsec? Here's one for you: one op-fuckin'-second to get your stuff before i call security on you for trying to waste *my* money on """data security training""" . What do you think the turrets are for. "
I don't think Aperture was the most competent at keeping stuff secret
if black mesa stole everything they knew about xen and teleportation from aperture since the 70s i'm surprised the borealis wasn't discovered before all of the combine stuff
Most of the Resistance's leaders are Ex-Black Mesa scientists. Black Mesa and Aperture were close competitors and I think the implication is that they were illegally peeking at each other's homework.
Don't forget Mossman literally was at a base in the arctic, she might have some insight
They found records of its voyage and loss.
i think at the end of hl2 ep1 alyx steals some data in the citadel which details that mossman found the borealis
Wasn't Eli Vance an employee at Aperture first? He would have been mad about being fired and told BM scientists everything he knew.
Black mest and borialis where rivals in technology like before everything went down basically a coke and Pepsi
I don’t know until I play Episode 3
valve doesn't count to 3
So half life 2 episode 2 episode 1
ye
Season 2 episode 1
Float on water
Nice try, combine drained all water sucka
Exactly why they’ll never see it coming
Nobody expects the floating borealis!
Exactly why: they’ll never sea.
Wasn't that only in the beta
Highway 17 sea levels are pretty low
Low ≠ all
I forgor
💀
Why’s it sitting on ice then? Is it stupid?
Something froze and broke.
It’s not necessarily the key to defeating the combine, it’s local teleportation technology better than what black Mesa East has and honestly the best scientific creation for humanity. The combine only has extradimensional teleportation and therefore cannot conquer more than one planet in a universe without traveling extremely far distances and possibly running out of supplies before they can reach the next conquerable planet. This technology would allow them to literally go anywhere instantly and it would be game over for anyone that isn’t combine. Eli wants you to destroy it because even the chance of someone mishandling it would have absolutely horrible consequences. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is what I assume it to be based off of what Mossman’s whole thing is in Nova Prospekt, Eli in episode 2, and a few other moments in those games.
The way I interpreted it, is that the combine, don't even really open portals they just invade anyone that's dumb enough to do so. They can't really choose end points the technology on the ship does exactly that.
Reading this just makes me sad because Valve has such an incredible universe and lore and I don't even know if I will be alive to see and experience the culmination of it. The >!retcon in H:Alyx!< was super interesting in my opinion but we technically just changed one cliffhanger for another without moving the whole borealis thing forward at all. Fuck, I miss Half-Life...
Im oolp what retcon?
If you don't mind >!H:Alyx changed the episode 2 ending by having G-man save Eli from the advisor thus changing the timeline but by doing so G-man takes Alyx with him. And the game ends with Eli giving the crowbar to Gordon!<
I wonder why they did that
You have to remember that Laidlaw is no longer at Valve, he was Half-Life main writer, and with Alyx is clear that Valve is steering the story in a different direction. We'll see what they're planning in around... 15 years.
I would be highly surprised if the Combine didn't have FTL capability
So would I, but for some reason they care about Judith and her teleportation research so much so who knows for sure 🤷♂️
FTL still means months to years of space travel at a time. Portal tech would mean instantaneous travel from one end of the galaxy to the other. It's a huge plot point of both Farscape and Warhammer 40k iirc
That's true, and makes the most sense
Why wouldn't they? Are they stupid?
Maybe you just simple can't in half-life
They probably only assimilate invaded races tech and can't invent anything on their own.
Still, there are planets millions of light years away
I honestly find it hard to believe the Combine, a multi-dimensional empire with funding and resources human minds cannot accurately visualize, would have trouble figuring out something as basic as **local teleportation** especially when it has already been done by a handful of powerless humans on Earth. It just sounds... contrived.
Maybe by the time the Combine invade earth they're in their infancy, and are actually a small size group/corporation on a multiversal scale?
Like the Tau!
I believe they say it's a physics issue, like they could open a portal but our world is fundamentally different so all their stuff has to adapt. I could see them working on the "now" stuff and figuring their portal division will "get right on it" but are having big problems
Hence the advisors needed heavily altered and modified bodies that act as physical vessels to traverse the HL world.
Ahh, that makes sense. Thank you!
Did you even play Half Life 2? This is explained in game.
No, I haven't played Half Life 2. I haven't even played the first one. In fact I don't even play Valve games. What are video games? Dripping sarcasm aside, that is some peak Reddit. Passive aggressively asking if I played the game instead of just opting to **give the damn explanation.**
I’m not the person you replied to but from what I recall Judith has a whole thing mid game of HL2 where she explains that the combine are masters at invading worlds but once they’re here they dependent on local means of transportation to get around. I know it sounds dumb but yes, the premise is that they’re really good at going interdimensional but really bad at teleporting down the road to the gas station.
Yeah I recall that, but it doesn't really explain *why* the Combine are dependent on conventional technology (apart from saying that don't know how to harness local teleportation but that would just lead right back to my original comment).
Oh yeah I agree that part is strange.
Maybe the worlds they invade are really alien to their own. So they adapt by using/modifying existing means of transportation of the invaded world. Discovering a world that deals with teleportation and has successfully done so at a local scale would be a priority to them.
Exactly... fucking idiots saying shit that contributes nothing AT ALL to the questions, the same level of stupidity as "dont you guys have phones??" Yeah, peak reddit. Lmao
Thats what people from the 1920s thought about Y2k... yet we are still the same greedy, dumb humans fucking up the planet lmao
It can teleport bread for more than 3 days
Dear god...
there's more.
*No!!*
There’s more.
Noo
Lives rent free in our heads
This
It auroras all over the place
She aurora on my borealis until I teleport
It goes back TO THE FUTURE! ... sorry
Someone should warn Freeman about elicit goings on with his mother.
I always interpreted the borealis as a mobile research vessel. I never thought the borealis itself was the important part, but some pre-combine invasion goodies from aperture left behind on there? They were a black mesa competitor, tons of potential that they had something the resistance would find useful. Especially since the vessel had vanished some decades ago, An entire research lab from aperture that hasn't been affected by the invasion? Anyone still alive would be incredibly valuable to the cause.
> Anyone still alive would be incredibly valuable to the cause. Unintentional Still Alive reference?
Definitely not intentional, just a happy accident.
I didn’t think about it like that. If any of the surviving researchers were able to continue their research, completely uninterrupted by the Combine, who knows what they could’ve discovered in 20 years.
I'm more curious about how the lights on the Borealis are working after 20 years of abandonment
Regular Odell maintenance
To be fair, Aperture still has power after like a millennium of not being operational in Portal 2.
power bill gone brrr
In portal 2 at least a thousand years later glados is in perfect condition, no cracks, no moss, nothing, aperture tech makes no sense
Anti-Rusting metals, as real as their bots firing cartridge and bullet together
Nuclear power and the cold slowing the rusting process.
Generators and fuel.
Aperture Science ignores the Phoebus Cartel
It bores alis
Why does no one here say something about time travel the borealis may have time travel capabilities, which would make it the ultimate weapon
because it probably isn't that
The Aperature Science Boot-Leg device that is housed on the Borealis is capable of star-level destruction if it malfunctions. It's main use was supposed to be for similar yet separate interdimensional space travel like how Black Mesa was using, only except it had no need for slingshotting around Xen as a tether: it simply *goes* to the other place. The Combine want this not only so everyone else can't, but they also want it for the teleportation technology, possibly for reverse-engineering and practical use of their universal conquest.
If the Borealis was capable of that level of destruction, it makes me wonder if it was disappeared intentionally.
I’m just wondering why they would keep all this high tech shit on a boat and not jn thier main facility??
It was at their facility, being prepared to be taken offsite somewhere remote where it could be tested. But, an accident on board occurred and the teleportation system activated sending the ship to somewhere unknown… “it even took some of the dry dock with it!” You can see the aftermath damage of said dry dock in Portal 2.
When you build a nuke it's in a lab, when you test a nuke it's far far away in an empty desert or island
I think it's supposed to be that, on top of having local teleportation, it can also be used to cross between universes. Maybe it's that it can travel directly to another universe without the use of a portal like what we see at the end of HL2 and in Episode 2. Or, maybe it can access the multiverse in the more common sense, in that it travel to alternate versions of Earth like in the Marvel movies, whereas the Combine seem to only be capable of traveling to other universes which are all completely different from the original universe.
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Maybe in other media, but in Half-Life it's implied that there are no identical realities that you can travel to, since absolutely nothing from the alternate universes are remotely similar to anything in our universe, and the Combine are shown to have needed to develop their human Overwatch soldiers, meaning that they've never encountered us before. On top of that, Dr. Breen on numerous occasions state he is working towards the benefit of all humanity, which would be strange if there were already humans all over the Combine empire.
Replaces your blood with peanut oil or smth, idk whatever the expirements were in portal 2. If theres any gel on board they can use it to cover the combine in bouncy goo and make them bounce off earth.
And some crewmembers didn't have their skin teleport with them.
The combines teleportation tech is the one thing they have that is garbage.
Nobody knows, every comment of somebody blindly speculating or claiming they know the answer here is false.
I always thought that it had more of the gems / materials that created the resonance cascade which could be used to some degree to assist the resistance idk
In the book, it was sailing through the Bermuda Triangle when it was sent through another dimension where they found Scully looking for Mulder
I think you might want to hear this out https://youtu.be/E-eDQHX78Vg?si=KKG9gxtSv5D178-N
it boreals all over the place
it blueballs you for over 16 years
thats the point OP, >!in epistle 3, it is revealed that the borealis cant do shit to the combine !<
epistle 3 isnt canon
It clearly was the direction that Mark Laidlaw was going for and until HL3 comes out, it's canon to me
Neither is Half-Life 2: Episode Two according to Half-Life: Alyx.
most of the concepts are canned in valve and can be used in the future, even the basis, cry about it
“cry about it” 🤯🤯
I was with you until the unwarranted rudeness. HLA directly confirms the entire franchise is going on a different path "This entity will continue" (new direction) "And this entity will not" (old direction.)
If anyone's crying that's you
Who says it was canned? Marc Laidlaw explicitly said it wasn't even written for the game to begin with.
I know time-travel is more of an Epistle 3 idea, but I feel like that's what it likely is. I'd imagine being able to literally prevent the Black Mesa incident from occurring would be an effective way of stopping the Combine.
What does it do? It floats. It's a ship. Idiot.
The combine acquiring properly refined local teleportation technology would probably make them so unbelievably cracked humanity would die instantly.
It doing plot that lead to cliffhanger
I think it travels universes
It's a ship with aperture science tech on it
Looping through time
is it stupid?
This ship is full of MAGIC
Why is the borealis stuck? Is it stupid?
I think in epistle 3 it said something about them being able to teleport to the combine empire and blow them up or something
Your mom
most media-literate half life fan
Your mom
How do you have a lambda pfp if you don’t know this
This video is great and gives the whole back story with Aperture Science and what not. Super informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC4U2IBNkWU
The ship is based off the ship from the Philadelphia experiment, fun read
It can teleport.
time travel i think
It can teleport the whole Combine to hell at once.
it transports Cave Johnson's lemons
suck at being a ship, that's what
Pull the plot forward
It supposedly has better portal technology than the combine, so humans could use it to open a portal to the combine overworld and drop a fat ass nuke on it
According to Mark Laidlaw's Epistle 3, It's a teleporter on steroids. It can teleport through space *and* time, and it makes use of an experimental "Bootstrap Device" which allows for insant interdimensional travel. This information is not canon, but it should give you a pretty good idea of what it was supposed to do.
On another topic, totaly random, i think that the borelas could have disappeared becuase of a giant portal device, i watched in a star strek episode where part of the earth “portaled” to a spot above it. I think that somehow someone or something could have found tech to do that, what do u think
Because Aperture science We do what we must Because we can
for the good of mankind
if you destroy it than the combine will not have access to its portal tech (they don't already have it) and boom, world is saved.
Float
I always imagined Half life 3 and Portal 3 as a crossover. Half life 3 being the third instalment in both series and incorporating mechanics from both series.
Time and space
Aiden walker boreal
I suspect it has multi-dimensional portal guns, and a much much larger portaling device that is able to teleport entire parts of aperture, which is why a large number of enrichment spheres are in the toxic water, and so I suspect it would be able to just teleport every single combine unit off of Earth and prevent them from ever being able to come back
Best guess is that it's supposed to be a transport or atleast a holder for some form of technology that could, if used, defeat the Combine in the long run, but we never get anything outside of the fact its owned by Aperture
I’m pretty sure one of the main technological goals of the combine is local teleportation. Even though they have interdimensional they have never quite developed local teleportation however the borealis has that exact technology. Even if the ship itself might not be super powerful, the scientific significance of it makes it one of the most important possessions of humanity.
teleportation is very powerful, that's why the combine want teleportation devices, powerful things help you fight wars
It floats
it bores the alis
It contains the number 3
It can float on water
Stuff
It does things
I was told once that it has a “Bootstrap Device” that is an unstable invention that can travel through space and time. That’s all I know.
Essentially, borealis = big kaboomies
It's an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands.
Not much these days.
Who even knows anymore. I was 12 when HL2 EP2 came out and now I’m almost 29
It has the portal gun which means that dr freeman can play the hit game portal by valve
Magic science mugifin powers
I like EZ2's take on it that essentially >!something in the core gave it the ability to alter time, which even sent it back in time to before they even bought out the company that would investigate it in the first place. Things altered by this power seem to be able to manipulate time and teleport completely at will, which may even be why G-Man is able to do some of the things he does throughout the games. !<
The only reason the combine doesnt completely wipe humanity off the map is because of the production of resources and potential technology. One of those are the substantial improvements that Aperture have made to easy teleportation: AKA the portal gun. The Borealis is said to have a lot of miscellaneous highly valuable technology as it relates to portals.
It appears at this time of day, at this time of year, in this part of the country, localised entirely within your kitchen
1. what can it do?: that we know of. it can teleport to any point in space 2. why is it the key?: it's probably not, it's most probably just a powerful item the resistence wants to get their hands on, could work, could not.
2: Because with it Combine will have ability to colonize entire universe, not just earth. They had problems with local teleportation before.
it could probably fly and set a portal for coordinates, so they could enter the coordinates for the combine homeworld and travel back in time
what brought a ship here? Is he stupid?
It files my taxes for me
Well in entropy zero 2 it had that power ball
Drives the plot forward
Just a hunch, but I think it will get retconned...
based on writer's story: was a research vessel that was made to isolate the test in the sea but it went off before leaving the docks at aperture labs ! (you see the results in Portal 2) the fan theory: is that this type of teleportation achieves the same result as the Xen-relay Teleportation that Black Mesa was researching without the Xen (exactly as the teleportation that the Gman is using) and it should be (in theory) able to teleport in universe and out of it after this event a government investigation into the matter ended with no results as all key scientists where on the vessel and no information was found later this investigation was the source of all the roamers that was known in the science community later
It was a portal experiment
\>locate combine \>teleport borealis on top of combine \>they dead