He apparently has a history with Banished commander Let 'Volir, but he and Atriox have met on opposite sides in the recent Halo: Outcasts. Atriox warned that he would be coming for Sanghelios and the Arbiter soon during that meeting, hinting at the current fight for Suban. Atriox got the upper hand of their encounter, and dared to strike the Elites' homeworld's moon, so the Arbiter arguably has almost as much reason to care about taking down Atriox as the Master Chief does.
Shouldn’t even be with prep time, should just be with not getting jumped. Spartans far outclass Brutes in speed and agility and can match them in strength, literally the only reason Atriox wins against Spartans is cause he ambushes them.
Exactly. Chief got sucker punched hard by atriox. Dont get me wrong the dude is strong and will probably be a good fight but Chief doesnt lose often and when he does lose he comes back and wins anyway.
Naomi-010 broke a brute's spine with an uppercut wearing outdated GEN1 armour. Chief, wearing GEN3, uppercut Atriox hard enough to ***lift him off the floor***. He should be able to win as-is, imo.
That doesn't matter because we have still scene Spartans wreck brutes. Hell I. The same game that atriox wrecks red team Jerome is shown later destroying Brutes in CQC.
We have also seen Gamma Company Spartans in regular armor go toe to toe against Brutes in CQC and hold their own.
I mean, sure, but there's a difference between knocking someone unconscious (because we don't know if the Brutes are dead) and breaking someone's spine by hitting him in the head.
I would have imagined that the Master Chief would have fared better, but what we got was far from it. However, it’s at least consistent. Atriox also low diffed red team and that consisted of three Spartan 2s, so it kind of makes sense why the Master Chief lost.
Red Team wears armour so old it doesn’t even have energy shielding (in gameplay they do, but that's purely a gameplay mechanic), so that at least makes some semblance of sense.
Edit: even though I think it’s stupid three soldiers as elite, highly trained, and intelligent as Spartan-IIs, with their emphasis on working together, would repeatedly throw themselves at the same opponent.
Red Team's armor does have energy shields according to the Essential Visual Guide. It's stated to be prototype shield systems installed in their MK IV that were being field tested.
It's also important to remember that red team are reject Spartans who needed a second round of augmentation. They are a little weaker and slower while still being Spartans
Chief can match Atriox. As you pointed out, the fact that he ambushed Chief, and had Chainbreaker, was the real deciding factor.
The camera angles make it look like Atriox punched Chief harder, but Atriox got knocked back by Chief's punch(which should've taken his jaw off), and then right as Chief landed back on the ground, before he even got his proper footing back, Atriox hit him, and Chief's upper body gets knocked toward the camera, but his feet don't move. He managed to maintain his footing, but the camera being in his face makes it look like he was pushed further and harder than he really was. They seem to have punched each other with similar force.
And even with Chainbreaker, Chief tanked the first hit(physically, I mean, because his shields still took damage). Chief managed to put his arm up, and block the first strike, and doesn't even move an inch, meaning Chief managed to counter every ounce of force in Atriox's initial strike.
Not to mention Chief had a little dinky pistol. Chief was put in such a specific situation so he could lose, and Atriox likes to get you when you're not prepared for him, because of course he does. He's not an honorable Elite, or Goku looking for a fair/good fight.
But as it stands, Chief just needs to expect Atriox, and actually have a decent weapon, and he can beat Atriox.
Only if Atriox doesn't have shields, which would be ridiculous if he doesn't.
I know Blur animated it as Atriox having no shields, but it's far from the only thing of dubious canon in Blur's cutscenes. Plus, it would flat out make zero sense, considering if Atriox has no shields, then Red Team had him dead to rights, and decided to just, what, show mercy? Them not firing would only make sense if he had shields, as they'd likely risk Douglass before fully dropping Atriox.
Him having shields, and Blur just failing to animate it, would actually explain how he survived the punch, and I can't imagine a future boss fight with Atriox, where he has no shields, and you can one tap him.
I'm also talking about the Halo Wars 2 cutscene with Red Team, as that was the first dubious scene where Atriox is animated as if he has no shields, and doesn't actually make sense at all, given what happens. The trend continued in Halo Infinite.
I feel alot of people don't realize this. Most of the halo community likely skipped halo wars 2. So they'd for the most part be unaware that Atriox shows up when he has the overwhelming advantage.
Ambushing the MC when he has a pistol with no spare mag is by far the most opportune time to make a move and is absolutely something Atriox would do. It's what makes it a good fight. They show the MC lose but it makes sense. Chiefs been fighting for however long is clearly at a point where he has to scavenge dropped weapons and he hits the Chief fast and hard. It builds Atriox up without tearing down the chief
After watching the fight again you may be right about the cameras angles and how it makes it seem much worse than it actually is. However, Atriox’s hammer is honestly a huge problem. Sure, the Master Chief was unfazed by the first hit but any subsequent hits really damaged him.
When you say the Master Chief can match and beat Atriox if he expects him, do you mean the Master Chief beats him convincingly or it’s a very close fight?
Atriox's mace is a huge issue. With it, a win is still possible, but I'd say it's a really close fight, and Chief is not walking away without some new scars.
Chief would have a much easier time beating Atriox if the mace was out of the picture. Not saying this fight would be easy though. It'd still be a tough fight, but I can see Chief walking away without too much damage here.
Cool cutscene but Chief going down so fast while uninjured is… not my cup of tea.
The Infinity and Gen 3 armor are both supposed to show humanity is now one of the top-dogs in the galaxy but both get instakilled in a 2 minute cutscene with no explanation. Chief fought a Forerunner, you’re telling me Atriox had shit on The Didact?
Chief defeated the Didact using multiple Composers. It wasn't a straight-up fight. They fought earlier in a straight-up fight and the Chief was basically helpless.
Even then Chief doesn´t need them, if we were talking about the flood (and maybe the endless although I dont know the extend of their capabilities) then I agree that a some forerunner pieces in the MJOLNIR armor would be useful.
> It seems almost certain to me that the Master Chief and Atriox will fight again 1 on 1
Correct me if I'm wrong but...I thought Atriox died?
Edit: Looked it up, corrected myself. Not sure how I missed that honestly, seems like a pretty major plot point.
The only logical explanation that holds up in any way for why Atriox defeated the Chief so easily is that the Chief sustained such heavy concussion damage that his punches barely had any power behind them.
Yes, lifting strength doesn't necessarily translate to striking strength, at least not directly, but still Master Chief being able to squat over a 100 tons means that he should be able to turn Atriox' head into pulp with a single punch. Unless again, Atriox had Tartarus-level shields active, but we don't see them flare up in that cutscene, so yea.
I dont remember the source (sorry) but in his gen 3 armour in one of the novels he lifts a block of granite the size of a warthog.
100 tons would be low end for a solid block of stone this large.
He was also wounded in that scene.
A punch on an unarmoured portion of even a brute should pulverise that area, ateiox still having a jaw, skull, and upper spine after that uppercut can only be excused by him having shields active and heavily reinforced skeleton kek
An uppercut on an unarmoured part of their skull from a spartan 2 in gen 3 absolutely is going to.
I forglt who but a spartan 2 shattered the spine of a brute with a punch in gen 1 armour, chief in gen 3 has a lifting strength in the 3 digits *tons*.
Brutes are durable yes but they are still organic and that only gets you so far until you need to get into augmentations cybernetics or supercells to try to keep up with actual armour.
And chief on screen through the saga has punched into titanium A (top of my head halo 3 and 4 plus any boarding of an enclosed unsc vehicle) covenant nano laminite plating( again any boarding of a covie vehicle plus that time he stabbed a knife into a lich's armour hard enough to hard stop his 1 ton ass's fall), and even forerunner platings on some occasions.
Again
All this is prior to gen 3.
Agreed 100%. The Spartans should not have lost so easily according to the Lore. There needed to be technological and surprise advantages stacked to make it make sense.
Atriox was ready for the fight and has power armour too. Atriox is stronger than chief. He hits harder and can take more damage. But why would we want it any other way? Atriox is the FIRST villain 343 has set up that has actually persisted between games and frankly I want how the fight to go is for chief to lose again so we can have more encounters in the future. Can Atriox be defeated? Absolutely. But imagine it like Escharum on legendary. That was NOT easy. And I don’t think Atriox or the banished should go down easy at all especially not in 1 fight.
Remember too, Atriox wants to win the long game. The only reason Chief and Escharum actually fought was because he telegraphed his location and manipulated Chief into coming to him to fight one on one. Atriox is far more valuable to assassinate and I doubt he has any death wish going on like his mentor did.
Atriox didn't win because he was stronger. The Master Chief *routinely* takes out enemies who are as strong or stronger than him - he has gone hand-to-hand with Elites and Brutes, killed Hunters, and taken out Scarabs solo. The problem with Atriox was that he had the element of surprise - he caught the *Infinity* off guard with his fleet, and he caught the Master Chief off guard when he boarded it. He used the element of surprise to press his advantage, and then never gave the Master Chief a chance to recover, brutally pummelling him before throwing him out into space. But if there was a round two - if the Master Chief could pick the ground and be ready with the right weapons, knowing who and what he's up against, and with The Weapon and other reinforcements to support him - the fight could just as easily go the other way.
Yes but all of that shouldn't matter if your augmented Super soldier opponent drives a titanium gauntleted fist, with force multiplying circuits attached to power armor that has shown us multiple times in the lore that injury or concussions can be compensated using the armor to keep performance and strength at near 100%, into ones unprotected and fully breakable meat chin.
We havs seen Spartans dent metal with their bare hands, plot is what saved Atroix
Does anyone think Atriox may be augmented with cybernetics or something? Those little metal bits on his head are interesting but may allude to something?
He doesn’t need anything extra to defeat Atriox for a couple reasons. He defeated the Didact who could spin Atriox around for fun so there are ways for him to win without matching Atriox 1v1. Also, Atriox had plot armor on his side but so could Chief, he is technically more than capable of physically brutalizing Atriox but it’s up to the writers. That’s not to say Atriox doesn’t have the advantage up close but Chief could incapacitate him before even engaging up close if he gets the opportunity. I like the idea of Atriox being so strong but it is mind boggling how he can just take on 3 Spartans, ambush or not, like it’s nothing. That being said, I’m fine with him being illogically overpowered and needing all of Blue Team to take him down or going 1v1 with Chief and losing.
Master chief never beat the didact 1v1, he got slapped around in every one of their encounters. The only reason he was able to “win” in 4 was because Cortana restricted the didact with a hard light bridge that was damn near indestructible. And even then he broke it and bitch slapped chief after he planted that grenade in his chest. He then survived a slip space trip in just his armor to a planet, bodies grey team effortlessly and then bodied the entirety of blue team plus chief. Only reason he lost was because he was cocky and didn’t expect the composer
Idk…. Chief got dragged, literally lol. Choke slammed to hell in space* Atriox seems to be a very smart fighter and I much prefer that to the clown show Elites in 343s early years
The fight made sense for the context and what we know of atriox, both times we’ve seen atriox fight Spartans it’s been in a surprise/ambush scenario. Red team was in a dark area where they had no idea what to expect and were fresh out of cryosleep, and with chief it was a full ambush with supporting units. His special hammer isn’t anything to sneeze at either from what we’ve seen. I think if were to beat atriox as chief in a future story, it would be in a reversal of how atriox normally engages Spartans, by setting up an ambush of our own in a situation where we have the upper hand
Chief is not beating Atriox in a fair 1v1, I don’t think he should be able to. Not without serious prep time or maybe a 2v1 sequence of him and the arbiter taking atriox down
Human vs giga monke, giga monke bonk human and throws him out of hanger,
Giga monke wins human loses
What’s so difficult to understand here, like get a grip every day I see it on here oh how can a hyper lethal vector lose against a smart monke, first off the hyper lethal vector shit is cringe and hasn’t been relevant for years, with chief being more grounded it helps his character to lose rather than being a stagnant I cant lose ever Chad
Spartan showings range from ludicrously strong to ludicrously weak (comparatively) so chief should either one shot him or need the help of a fireteam, it really depends on what they decide the outcome should be.
I mean you took down the hand of Atriox and he still lives so I think you definitely fight him. I think you can beat him for sure. 1. While Atriox was believe to be dead not sure what he went through to survive. 2. Escharum was difficult but sick so Atriox would be tougher but he's shorter than Escharum too and if there's no gravity hammer and some power ups for Master Chief. I think it's a win for MC
I just realized Chief's first 2 punches landed on the ODST chestplate Atriox uses as a belt buckle... and it doesn't totally destroy it, let alone leave a mark.
It is from my understanding of the lore that the Spartan 2s were the strongest, fastest and most durable, I feel as if they've done chief dirty, he should have been able to stay in that fight a bit longer and done a noticeable amount of damage to atriox, even if it was like Ironman vs Thanos when Thanos' cheek was cut, but something like that where the chief could have broken atrioxs hand or nose, maybe broken a piece of his armour even. Either way it's set up for another encounter, they still could have made this first one a bit more on the fair side, ambush or not.
I'd be just as keen to see Atriox go up against the Arbiter (Keith David voice): Stand aside, Spartan. I've been waiting a long time for this...
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He apparently has a history with Banished commander Let 'Volir, but he and Atriox have met on opposite sides in the recent Halo: Outcasts. Atriox warned that he would be coming for Sanghelios and the Arbiter soon during that meeting, hinting at the current fight for Suban. Atriox got the upper hand of their encounter, and dared to strike the Elites' homeworld's moon, so the Arbiter arguably has almost as much reason to care about taking down Atriox as the Master Chief does.
So what you’re saying is we need Arby and the Chief to team up to take him down.
SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI
I'ma look in to this more so appreciate the reference info
Well, now that the Banished are after Suban...
I see Arbiter and Atriox as more rivals than bitter enemies. Depends on how Atriox approaches things in the future.
Chief with prep time wins. Did chief even sustain any injuries before Atriox threw him into space?
yeah he had a big ouchie ouch on his knee but his mom(the pilot) gave him a kiss and bandaid
Sir that is his WIFE
Oh damn...
Shouldn’t even be with prep time, should just be with not getting jumped. Spartans far outclass Brutes in speed and agility and can match them in strength, literally the only reason Atriox wins against Spartans is cause he ambushes them.
Exactly. Chief got sucker punched hard by atriox. Dont get me wrong the dude is strong and will probably be a good fight but Chief doesnt lose often and when he does lose he comes back and wins anyway.
If Chief gets the jump on Atriox, he curbstomps
Naomi-010 broke a brute's spine with an uppercut wearing outdated GEN1 armour. Chief, wearing GEN3, uppercut Atriox hard enough to ***lift him off the floor***. He should be able to win as-is, imo.
Yes, but Travis wrote the infamous scene with Lucy hitting Halsey. So I would take it with a grain of salt.
That doesn't matter because we have still scene Spartans wreck brutes. Hell I. The same game that atriox wrecks red team Jerome is shown later destroying Brutes in CQC. We have also seen Gamma Company Spartans in regular armor go toe to toe against Brutes in CQC and hold their own.
I mean, sure, but there's a difference between knocking someone unconscious (because we don't know if the Brutes are dead) and breaking someone's spine by hitting him in the head.
wasn't Lucy wearing SPI armor
Yes, but even then, she’s still an augmented super soldier with metal bones.
Still, unless Halsey secretly augmented herself, Lucy's hit should have decapitated her.
I would have imagined that the Master Chief would have fared better, but what we got was far from it. However, it’s at least consistent. Atriox also low diffed red team and that consisted of three Spartan 2s, so it kind of makes sense why the Master Chief lost.
Red Team wears armour so old it doesn’t even have energy shielding (in gameplay they do, but that's purely a gameplay mechanic), so that at least makes some semblance of sense. Edit: even though I think it’s stupid three soldiers as elite, highly trained, and intelligent as Spartan-IIs, with their emphasis on working together, would repeatedly throw themselves at the same opponent.
Red Team's armor does have energy shields according to the Essential Visual Guide. It's stated to be prototype shield systems installed in their MK IV that were being field tested.
That’s a silly retcon. Well, whatever, I stand corrected.
Diffed?
Difficulty. To say "low diff" or "low diffed" is the same as saying "with low difficulty."
I always thought it was "low difference" or "low differential", learned something today
It's also important to remember that red team are reject Spartans who needed a second round of augmentation. They are a little weaker and slower while still being Spartans
Chief can match Atriox. As you pointed out, the fact that he ambushed Chief, and had Chainbreaker, was the real deciding factor. The camera angles make it look like Atriox punched Chief harder, but Atriox got knocked back by Chief's punch(which should've taken his jaw off), and then right as Chief landed back on the ground, before he even got his proper footing back, Atriox hit him, and Chief's upper body gets knocked toward the camera, but his feet don't move. He managed to maintain his footing, but the camera being in his face makes it look like he was pushed further and harder than he really was. They seem to have punched each other with similar force. And even with Chainbreaker, Chief tanked the first hit(physically, I mean, because his shields still took damage). Chief managed to put his arm up, and block the first strike, and doesn't even move an inch, meaning Chief managed to counter every ounce of force in Atriox's initial strike. Not to mention Chief had a little dinky pistol. Chief was put in such a specific situation so he could lose, and Atriox likes to get you when you're not prepared for him, because of course he does. He's not an honorable Elite, or Goku looking for a fair/good fight. But as it stands, Chief just needs to expect Atriox, and actually have a decent weapon, and he can beat Atriox.
That dinky little pistol would have put a bullet in Atriox's head if he hadn't deflected it a split second before Chief pulled the trigger
Only if Atriox doesn't have shields, which would be ridiculous if he doesn't. I know Blur animated it as Atriox having no shields, but it's far from the only thing of dubious canon in Blur's cutscenes. Plus, it would flat out make zero sense, considering if Atriox has no shields, then Red Team had him dead to rights, and decided to just, what, show mercy? Them not firing would only make sense if he had shields, as they'd likely risk Douglass before fully dropping Atriox. Him having shields, and Blur just failing to animate it, would actually explain how he survived the punch, and I can't imagine a future boss fight with Atriox, where he has no shields, and you can one tap him.
Axis animated Infinite's opening cutscene, not Blur Just making a note of that
I'm also talking about the Halo Wars 2 cutscene with Red Team, as that was the first dubious scene where Atriox is animated as if he has no shields, and doesn't actually make sense at all, given what happens. The trend continued in Halo Infinite.
Blur doesn't really animate shields, for some reason Halo 2 Anniversary only has like 2 cutscenes where shields were animated
In the words of Iratus: "Tiny weapon...but still satisfactory."
I feel alot of people don't realize this. Most of the halo community likely skipped halo wars 2. So they'd for the most part be unaware that Atriox shows up when he has the overwhelming advantage. Ambushing the MC when he has a pistol with no spare mag is by far the most opportune time to make a move and is absolutely something Atriox would do. It's what makes it a good fight. They show the MC lose but it makes sense. Chiefs been fighting for however long is clearly at a point where he has to scavenge dropped weapons and he hits the Chief fast and hard. It builds Atriox up without tearing down the chief
After watching the fight again you may be right about the cameras angles and how it makes it seem much worse than it actually is. However, Atriox’s hammer is honestly a huge problem. Sure, the Master Chief was unfazed by the first hit but any subsequent hits really damaged him. When you say the Master Chief can match and beat Atriox if he expects him, do you mean the Master Chief beats him convincingly or it’s a very close fight?
Atriox's mace is a huge issue. With it, a win is still possible, but I'd say it's a really close fight, and Chief is not walking away without some new scars. Chief would have a much easier time beating Atriox if the mace was out of the picture. Not saying this fight would be easy though. It'd still be a tough fight, but I can see Chief walking away without too much damage here.
Cool cutscene but Chief going down so fast while uninjured is… not my cup of tea. The Infinity and Gen 3 armor are both supposed to show humanity is now one of the top-dogs in the galaxy but both get instakilled in a 2 minute cutscene with no explanation. Chief fought a Forerunner, you’re telling me Atriox had shit on The Didact?
Chief defeated the Didact using multiple Composers. It wasn't a straight-up fight. They fought earlier in a straight-up fight and the Chief was basically helpless.
Bruh I feel like Chief only comes to slightly over crotch-height on the Didact too 😂
Forerunner armor would annihilate Atriox and it wouldn’t be even funny
I don't think he was talking about full forerunner armor, rather how the Infinity had forerunner parts
Even then Chief doesn´t need them, if we were talking about the flood (and maybe the endless although I dont know the extend of their capabilities) then I agree that a some forerunner pieces in the MJOLNIR armor would be useful.
> It seems almost certain to me that the Master Chief and Atriox will fight again 1 on 1 Correct me if I'm wrong but...I thought Atriox died? Edit: Looked it up, corrected myself. Not sure how I missed that honestly, seems like a pretty major plot point.
The only logical explanation that holds up in any way for why Atriox defeated the Chief so easily is that the Chief sustained such heavy concussion damage that his punches barely had any power behind them. Yes, lifting strength doesn't necessarily translate to striking strength, at least not directly, but still Master Chief being able to squat over a 100 tons means that he should be able to turn Atriox' head into pulp with a single punch. Unless again, Atriox had Tartarus-level shields active, but we don't see them flare up in that cutscene, so yea.
Chief being able squat 100 tons? I thought the best of his feats is flipping the Warthog.
I dont remember the source (sorry) but in his gen 3 armour in one of the novels he lifts a block of granite the size of a warthog. 100 tons would be low end for a solid block of stone this large. He was also wounded in that scene. A punch on an unarmoured portion of even a brute should pulverise that area, ateiox still having a jaw, skull, and upper spine after that uppercut can only be excused by him having shields active and heavily reinforced skeleton kek
Brutes are notoriously durable. A punch from a Spartan isn't gonna instakill them.
Except for all the times in lore where it has.
An uppercut on an unarmoured part of their skull from a spartan 2 in gen 3 absolutely is going to. I forglt who but a spartan 2 shattered the spine of a brute with a punch in gen 1 armour, chief in gen 3 has a lifting strength in the 3 digits *tons*. Brutes are durable yes but they are still organic and that only gets you so far until you need to get into augmentations cybernetics or supercells to try to keep up with actual armour. And chief on screen through the saga has punched into titanium A (top of my head halo 3 and 4 plus any boarding of an enclosed unsc vehicle) covenant nano laminite plating( again any boarding of a covie vehicle plus that time he stabbed a knife into a lich's armour hard enough to hard stop his 1 ton ass's fall), and even forerunner platings on some occasions. Again All this is prior to gen 3.
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Agreed 100%. The Spartans should not have lost so easily according to the Lore. There needed to be technological and surprise advantages stacked to make it make sense.
Atriox has hitherto before unseen levels of plot armor, so Chief doesn't stand a chance.
Atriox was ready for the fight and has power armour too. Atriox is stronger than chief. He hits harder and can take more damage. But why would we want it any other way? Atriox is the FIRST villain 343 has set up that has actually persisted between games and frankly I want how the fight to go is for chief to lose again so we can have more encounters in the future. Can Atriox be defeated? Absolutely. But imagine it like Escharum on legendary. That was NOT easy. And I don’t think Atriox or the banished should go down easy at all especially not in 1 fight.
Remember too, Atriox wants to win the long game. The only reason Chief and Escharum actually fought was because he telegraphed his location and manipulated Chief into coming to him to fight one on one. Atriox is far more valuable to assassinate and I doubt he has any death wish going on like his mentor did.
Atriox didn't win because he was stronger. The Master Chief *routinely* takes out enemies who are as strong or stronger than him - he has gone hand-to-hand with Elites and Brutes, killed Hunters, and taken out Scarabs solo. The problem with Atriox was that he had the element of surprise - he caught the *Infinity* off guard with his fleet, and he caught the Master Chief off guard when he boarded it. He used the element of surprise to press his advantage, and then never gave the Master Chief a chance to recover, brutally pummelling him before throwing him out into space. But if there was a round two - if the Master Chief could pick the ground and be ready with the right weapons, knowing who and what he's up against, and with The Weapon and other reinforcements to support him - the fight could just as easily go the other way.
Yes but all of that shouldn't matter if your augmented Super soldier opponent drives a titanium gauntleted fist, with force multiplying circuits attached to power armor that has shown us multiple times in the lore that injury or concussions can be compensated using the armor to keep performance and strength at near 100%, into ones unprotected and fully breakable meat chin. We havs seen Spartans dent metal with their bare hands, plot is what saved Atroix
Does anyone think Atriox may be augmented with cybernetics or something? Those little metal bits on his head are interesting but may allude to something?
He wears power armor. Let's him hit way harder then a normal brute.
He wears power armor. Let's him hit way harder then a normal brute.
I just wanted to sneak in and say the halo infinite campaign was fantastic
He doesn’t need anything extra to defeat Atriox for a couple reasons. He defeated the Didact who could spin Atriox around for fun so there are ways for him to win without matching Atriox 1v1. Also, Atriox had plot armor on his side but so could Chief, he is technically more than capable of physically brutalizing Atriox but it’s up to the writers. That’s not to say Atriox doesn’t have the advantage up close but Chief could incapacitate him before even engaging up close if he gets the opportunity. I like the idea of Atriox being so strong but it is mind boggling how he can just take on 3 Spartans, ambush or not, like it’s nothing. That being said, I’m fine with him being illogically overpowered and needing all of Blue Team to take him down or going 1v1 with Chief and losing.
Master chief never beat the didact 1v1, he got slapped around in every one of their encounters. The only reason he was able to “win” in 4 was because Cortana restricted the didact with a hard light bridge that was damn near indestructible. And even then he broke it and bitch slapped chief after he planted that grenade in his chest. He then survived a slip space trip in just his armor to a planet, bodies grey team effortlessly and then bodied the entirety of blue team plus chief. Only reason he lost was because he was cocky and didn’t expect the composer
I specifically mentioned the Didactic to say he doesn’t need to match Artiox 1v1, reread what I wrote
Idk…. Chief got dragged, literally lol. Choke slammed to hell in space* Atriox seems to be a very smart fighter and I much prefer that to the clown show Elites in 343s early years
Wait you weren't impressed when they stood still every time they fought Osiris?!
Chief should win realistically. Thst man had the best augmented, experience, skill and equipment unless you write a goofy ass plot.
The fight made sense for the context and what we know of atriox, both times we’ve seen atriox fight Spartans it’s been in a surprise/ambush scenario. Red team was in a dark area where they had no idea what to expect and were fresh out of cryosleep, and with chief it was a full ambush with supporting units. His special hammer isn’t anything to sneeze at either from what we’ve seen. I think if were to beat atriox as chief in a future story, it would be in a reversal of how atriox normally engages Spartans, by setting up an ambush of our own in a situation where we have the upper hand
Chief is not beating Atriox in a fair 1v1, I don’t think he should be able to. Not without serious prep time or maybe a 2v1 sequence of him and the arbiter taking atriox down
I really enjoy Atriox. I know people like to say he's "OP", but I genuinely like his character. He's a real threat.
They should find a way to introduce Jerome and have chief and Jerome beat his ass.
Human vs giga monke, giga monke bonk human and throws him out of hanger, Giga monke wins human loses What’s so difficult to understand here, like get a grip every day I see it on here oh how can a hyper lethal vector lose against a smart monke, first off the hyper lethal vector shit is cringe and hasn’t been relevant for years, with chief being more grounded it helps his character to lose rather than being a stagnant I cant lose ever Chad
Honestly I would prefer Atriox being the Arbiter's nemesis, not Chief's. Jega can be that.
Doesn’t atriox also wear power armor? Shouldn’t that cancel out chiefs power armor strength boost?
All brutes we've seen except for the ones in 2 and the minor-ranked brutes in Reach wore power armor
Spartan showings range from ludicrously strong to ludicrously weak (comparatively) so chief should either one shot him or need the help of a fireteam, it really depends on what they decide the outcome should be.
I mean you took down the hand of Atriox and he still lives so I think you definitely fight him. I think you can beat him for sure. 1. While Atriox was believe to be dead not sure what he went through to survive. 2. Escharum was difficult but sick so Atriox would be tougher but he's shorter than Escharum too and if there's no gravity hammer and some power ups for Master Chief. I think it's a win for MC
atriox is HIM
I just realized Chief's first 2 punches landed on the ODST chestplate Atriox uses as a belt buckle... and it doesn't totally destroy it, let alone leave a mark.
It is from my understanding of the lore that the Spartan 2s were the strongest, fastest and most durable, I feel as if they've done chief dirty, he should have been able to stay in that fight a bit longer and done a noticeable amount of damage to atriox, even if it was like Ironman vs Thanos when Thanos' cheek was cut, but something like that where the chief could have broken atrioxs hand or nose, maybe broken a piece of his armour even. Either way it's set up for another encounter, they still could have made this first one a bit more on the fair side, ambush or not.