And Faber had to appeal to the Librarian, who once made a credible threat of crippling the Ecumene's entire medical system, and Faber was actually threatened...
>How was that threat credible?
That was never elaborated. The book only mentioned that Faber found cooperating with her was a lot less troublesome than fighting against her.
The fact that Builders conceded to her was the only example we got.
>I do remember is that their armour made them essentially immortal.
Yep, I also have done [extensive research on that](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/10ngp7k/combat_skin_classification_why_guilty_sparks/).
Looked it up, spelled cylix.
And from what I understand on Halopedia, the cylixes function as more of a prison for species that need it. Why are the flood not on that list? Who knows, maybe it doesn't work for flood.
Was it specified that she was part of the Xalanyn? I understood it more as her being an ally of them but not exactly one of them, please correct me if im wrong
I'm not really an expert, that's just how I understood the plot. If I remember, she used the word "we" a lot when talking about the Xalanyn being imprisoned.
Due to the religious sentimentality of the forerunners, they did not believe fundamentally with a weapon capable of eliminating all life in the galaxy so they used these as mini arks to keep life on.
If you're curious you can read Greg Bears forerunner trilogy where it goes over this in better detail
But the goal was to ultimately reseed life throughout the Milky Way, why did they need habitable Halo’s when there were planets they wanted to put them on?
The halos were safe from their own firing. No planet in the galaxy could be done
After the rings fired the forerunners never came back for the rings and the monitors on each maintained the status quo
This is untrue. Everything on the surface of a Halo is also killed when they are fired, at least for the second set of rings. The first set of rings did not harm the inhabitants on the surface when firing, however.
And aesthetics. Compared to the superstructure, weaponry, and firing mechanisms, the life support and material for the artificial biosphere are probably really cheap.
As others have said, religion, politics, and appearances. But the Halos also contain preserved organisms that would likely be revived and bred on the rings themselves to help reseed life, _along with_ the specimens on the Ark itself.
They used to rings habitation to nurture the rebirth species until they were ready to be returned to their home planets as mentioned in the fractures book Promises to keep.
Can't really go wrong with release order.
I personally don't think you should skip any but I didn't care for *Hunters in the Dark*. Karen Traviss' trilogy is widely regarded for some uncharacteristic choices made by established characters but I thought the books were still great reads and good additions to the lore. My head canon for the inaccuracies are just that the books are essentially in universe propaganda. You know, [unreliable narrator](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnreliableNarrator) and all that.
The sidebar has a link for [the reading order](https://www.reddit.com/r/Halo/wiki/literature) if you want to try and optimize the fun out of the journey.
because the librarian put enough political pressure on emmet from the LEGO movie until he caved and allowed her to put populations on his rings.
read the forerunner trilogy for more information.
Wasn't it a compromise the Librarian and the Master Builder made? That if they were going to build weapons capable of destroying all life on the galaxy, those weapons should be able to nurture new life themselves? Anyway, after the Halo Array fiered ending the Forerunner Flood war, the species that the Libirian had indexed first started to thrive at the rings, and The Ark before being relocated to their native planets once they were able to support life again, if I am not mistaken.
Yes it was a compromise Faber made so the lifeworkers would allow the creation of the rings and therefore be able to outvote the mass construction of the shield worlds the Prometheans were biding for.
Thanks for corroborating that. I haven't had to read through all of the extended Hali media, but I have lurked this sub, and the wikis, trying to better understand the lore.
Religious reasons, they found the halos absolute destruction of life disgusting so as a compromise they made them also capable of supporting life as a nice balance.
The Forerunners had a caste system, and the Builders had to compromise to get the Lifeworkers to accept the idea of the rings at all-this included adding habitats to the rings to make them habitable, and having facilities on the rings to aid the conservation measure.
Forunner society is split into a caste system. There are Builders, Miners, Lifeworkers, Warrior-servants, and Engineers. All castes or “rates” are represented in Forunner governance but they are not represented equally.
To combat the flood, it was the Builders’ plan to construct the Halo Array. However, a weapon that could kill all life around it went against Forunner ideology so a compromise was made between the Librarian (the highest ranking Lifeworker) and Master Builder (the highest ranking Builder) to use the Halo rings as habitable environments for life to be studied and preserved by Lifeworkers.
IIRC the Halos were also designed as massive laboratories to store samples of various life forms for eventual reseeding after the Flood. Plus I imagine for the Array to function there had to have been some Forerunners onboard to man the systems for when the inevitable came to pass. Part of the whole point of the first game was that Halo was not automated and required manual control.
All the other reasons you've heard here, but also the forerunners liked using flora and fauna to sort of decorate their superstructures. Cultivating entire worlds as a hobby wasn't uncommon for some forerunners.
“You know what? The big ol’ galaxy destroying bombs that double as a prison for the strongest evil entity in the galaxy should have nice trees and be habitable :3 definitely nothing wrong will happen”
these bozos
I would say "because you are also storing flood samples on the rings, and they consume life". Even plant life. So why have anything they can use on the rings?
Basically the only way the life-worker strand of forerunner society would sign off on the builders making such destructive things was if they also housed and allowed species to grow, be studied and more importantly protected, as having endangered species on movable rings made them safer from the flood.
They also acted as the last vestiges of a now destroyed humanity after the Didact wiped out most of the different human species.
Halos were always galaxy-killers. Don't believe me? Look no further than Halo CE.
The shield worlds were their own thing as far back as either Ghosts of Onyx or Halo Wars, I don’t remember which.
"The Forerunner built this place. What they called a 'Fortress World' in order to-" quote from Cortana in Halo CE during the mission "Assault on the Control Room".
Halo was always a weapon, yes, I never said otherwise. It was also always a fortress world until 343's lore where they changed it so Shield Worlds were instead designated as Fortress Worlds instead of Halos.
Yes. In Bungie's universe, Shield Worlds were NOT Fortress Worlds. Halos were. I did not say Shield Worlds replaced Halos as "Fortress Worlds" when they were added to the lore. Shield Worlds predate that. It was with the Forerunner Trilogy of books that Halos were retconned to no longer be Fortress Worlds, and instead Shield Worlds were given the designation of Fortress Worlds. The same trilogy of books that changed the purpose of the Shield Worlds.
The rings were also designed to store living and stasised specimens for the conservation measure.
And Faber had to appeal to the Librarian, who once made a credible threat of crippling the Ecumene's entire medical system, and Faber was actually threatened...
Nothing that makes politicos shit their pants as much as having their health be held hostage
well i mean no shit, that's most basic form of a threat
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>How was that threat credible? That was never elaborated. The book only mentioned that Faber found cooperating with her was a lot less troublesome than fighting against her. The fact that Builders conceded to her was the only example we got. >I do remember is that their armour made them essentially immortal. Yep, I also have done [extensive research on that](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/10ngp7k/combat_skin_classification_why_guilty_sparks/).
but arent they stored in cylexs(dont know how to spell them)
Looked it up, spelled cylix. And from what I understand on Halopedia, the cylixes function as more of a prison for species that need it. Why are the flood not on that list? Who knows, maybe it doesn't work for flood.
In halo infinite theres 1 cylix for the flood
Is there? When?
it’s been a while but if I remember correctly it was in the beginning when master chief and Cortana 2 hadn’t yet reached the surface
That cylix was for the Xalanyn (ie the Harbinger, the main baddie you fight at the end).
https://youtu.be/K4QtkDSILbw?si=wZLrbZcxLB7S8jGQ Pretty sure we see human cylix as well in game
Oh damn, that's sick. I thought that door was always locked.
Was it specified that she was part of the Xalanyn? I understood it more as her being an ally of them but not exactly one of them, please correct me if im wrong
I'm not really an expert, that's just how I understood the plot. If I remember, she used the word "we" a lot when talking about the Xalanyn being imprisoned.
Due to the religious sentimentality of the forerunners, they did not believe fundamentally with a weapon capable of eliminating all life in the galaxy so they used these as mini arks to keep life on. If you're curious you can read Greg Bears forerunner trilogy where it goes over this in better detail
But the goal was to ultimately reseed life throughout the Milky Way, why did they need habitable Halo’s when there were planets they wanted to put them on?
The halos were safe from their own firing. No planet in the galaxy could be done After the rings fired the forerunners never came back for the rings and the monitors on each maintained the status quo
This is untrue. Everything on the surface of a Halo is also killed when they are fired, at least for the second set of rings. The first set of rings did not harm the inhabitants on the surface when firing, however.
Oh rip. So there were samples on each of the rings that got reseeded after the firing?
Presumably, since there is wildlife on the rings.
I’m talking about after they were fired. They were able to store them in compact storage devices, why did they need the entire ring to be habitable?
Religious reasons
And aesthetics. Compared to the superstructure, weaponry, and firing mechanisms, the life support and material for the artificial biosphere are probably really cheap.
As others have said, religion, politics, and appearances. But the Halos also contain preserved organisms that would likely be revived and bred on the rings themselves to help reseed life, _along with_ the specimens on the Ark itself.
They used to rings habitation to nurture the rebirth species until they were ready to be returned to their home planets as mentioned in the fractures book Promises to keep.
Emphasis on THEIR OWN, because once you activate the Array from the Ark, the other Halos will clap life on each of the Halos due to resonance
Is there a read order, and anything to skip? Read the first few like 20 years ago. Haven't since, I think the last one was Contact Harvest.
Can't really go wrong with release order. I personally don't think you should skip any but I didn't care for *Hunters in the Dark*. Karen Traviss' trilogy is widely regarded for some uncharacteristic choices made by established characters but I thought the books were still great reads and good additions to the lore. My head canon for the inaccuracies are just that the books are essentially in universe propaganda. You know, [unreliable narrator](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnreliableNarrator) and all that. The sidebar has a link for [the reading order](https://www.reddit.com/r/Halo/wiki/literature) if you want to try and optimize the fun out of the journey.
Thanks! I should have looked!
Long answer is all the other comments here. Short answer is that the Forerunners were *really* extra.
because the librarian put enough political pressure on emmet from the LEGO movie until he caved and allowed her to put populations on his rings. read the forerunner trilogy for more information.
Wasn't it a compromise the Librarian and the Master Builder made? That if they were going to build weapons capable of destroying all life on the galaxy, those weapons should be able to nurture new life themselves? Anyway, after the Halo Array fiered ending the Forerunner Flood war, the species that the Libirian had indexed first started to thrive at the rings, and The Ark before being relocated to their native planets once they were able to support life again, if I am not mistaken.
Yes it was a compromise Faber made so the lifeworkers would allow the creation of the rings and therefore be able to outvote the mass construction of the shield worlds the Prometheans were biding for.
Thanks for corroborating that. I haven't had to read through all of the extended Hali media, but I have lurked this sub, and the wikis, trying to better understand the lore.
Sounds like you should read Greg Bear's Forerunner Trilogy. So much incredible lore
Also a lot of retconned lore
Always has to be one of you, huh. Just enjoy shit
Just consoom
Like what
The Forerunners thought it would be funny if the super weapon designed to kill everything also had the flood and food for the flood on it.
Religious reasons, they found the halos absolute destruction of life disgusting so as a compromise they made them also capable of supporting life as a nice balance.
So that they could support life to be reseeded into the galaxy.
Politics
The Forerunners had a caste system, and the Builders had to compromise to get the Lifeworkers to accept the idea of the rings at all-this included adding habitats to the rings to make them habitable, and having facilities on the rings to aid the conservation measure.
Forunner society is split into a caste system. There are Builders, Miners, Lifeworkers, Warrior-servants, and Engineers. All castes or “rates” are represented in Forunner governance but they are not represented equally. To combat the flood, it was the Builders’ plan to construct the Halo Array. However, a weapon that could kill all life around it went against Forunner ideology so a compromise was made between the Librarian (the highest ranking Lifeworker) and Master Builder (the highest ranking Builder) to use the Halo rings as habitable environments for life to be studied and preserved by Lifeworkers.
It was a compromise between the life workers and master builder
IIRC the Halos were also designed as massive laboratories to store samples of various life forms for eventual reseeding after the Flood. Plus I imagine for the Array to function there had to have been some Forerunners onboard to man the systems for when the inevitable came to pass. Part of the whole point of the first game was that Halo was not automated and required manual control.
All the other reasons you've heard here, but also the forerunners liked using flora and fauna to sort of decorate their superstructures. Cultivating entire worlds as a hobby wasn't uncommon for some forerunners.
Short answer is: Because the librarian thought it would be cool
“You know what? The big ol’ galaxy destroying bombs that double as a prison for the strongest evil entity in the galaxy should have nice trees and be habitable :3 definitely nothing wrong will happen” these bozos
Why not
I would say "because you are also storing flood samples on the rings, and they consume life". Even plant life. So why have anything they can use on the rings?
For science
I'm thinking that could have been done in remote places, without anything for the flood to feed on.
Eh, im sure theres a way to fire a low power charge id they need
Basically the only way the life-worker strand of forerunner society would sign off on the builders making such destructive things was if they also housed and allowed species to grow, be studied and more importantly protected, as having endangered species on movable rings made them safer from the flood. They also acted as the last vestiges of a now destroyed humanity after the Didact wiped out most of the different human species.
In the Bungie universes, Halos were fortress worlds. In 343's universe? Idk exactly. They used one as a human habitat
Halos were always galaxy-killers. Don't believe me? Look no further than Halo CE. The shield worlds were their own thing as far back as either Ghosts of Onyx or Halo Wars, I don’t remember which.
"The Forerunner built this place. What they called a 'Fortress World' in order to-" quote from Cortana in Halo CE during the mission "Assault on the Control Room". Halo was always a weapon, yes, I never said otherwise. It was also always a fortress world until 343's lore where they changed it so Shield Worlds were instead designated as Fortress Worlds instead of Halos.
Ghosts of Onyx and Halo Wars were Bungie-era
Yes. In Bungie's universe, Shield Worlds were NOT Fortress Worlds. Halos were. I did not say Shield Worlds replaced Halos as "Fortress Worlds" when they were added to the lore. Shield Worlds predate that. It was with the Forerunner Trilogy of books that Halos were retconned to no longer be Fortress Worlds, and instead Shield Worlds were given the designation of Fortress Worlds. The same trilogy of books that changed the purpose of the Shield Worlds.