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EmperrorNombrero

Not living with them rn but I'd assume for most people it's simply not a decision they can make. Rents are insane. That's it


Bitter_Doubt_2399

It sure is


GroteStruisvogel

I lived on my own for a while, due to the insane housing situation in my country I moved a lot around the country and lived in a lot of temporary homes. Then I figured I wanted some more stability, and not having to pay half my paycheck for rent. So I moved back in.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Yeah, fair enough. Can relate to that.


Dixenz

It's pretty normal in my country, we are supposed to take care our parents as they're getting older. Retirement house aren't a thing in my country.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

That's really interesting, sounds pretty nice.


Haisekki3776

It's not, unless a person is a goody two shoes


N3w_B3ginnings

Was meant to be a financial decision, but ended up getting really depressed when I kept fucking things up both financially and otherwise in life. Hit the bottom over the winter, now been working on fixing my head and moving out. Really regret not leaving earlier.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Sorry to hear that.


Few_Discipline1004

will go through this soon🫡


l_Trava_l

I save about 25k a year and live on my own. My coworker lives at home and saves about 70k a year. If your parents don't suck to be around, I'd def consider it the best option.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

25ks a pretty good run. I'm glad to hear it.


l_Trava_l

Thanks man! I've been working hard to learn how to save an invest.


AndysowhatGG

I left home at the age of 15. I was forced into the streets at the age of 17, because of a massive failure on my part. Lived 6months on the streets before I was able to stabilize. I stubbornly refused help from my parents. Considering that 20 years later, I should’ve just moved home. However, my parents were never the type to teach emotional stability or any other type of stability. They would lie about them being stable just to end their marriage short while after. So maybe my younger self knew something I have forgotten. My wife, moved home for 6 years before we met because of medical issues.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Sorry to hear that dude, glad it turned around for ya!!


AndysowhatGG

Thank you, and appriciate that it happend to me. Its an experience I wouldnt want to go without.


AliceInBondageLand

I am very grateful that I was kicked out, because I saw what happened to my sibling that never left.


TheBodyPolitic1

Why did they kick you out? How old were you? What happened with your sibling? How did you support yourself?


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Sometimes, getting kicked out is a real blessing. Obviously, it's kind of lame at the time, though. Hope it turns around for your sibling.


Few_Somewhere3517

Gonna go out on a limb and say a healthy family dynamic. My family does better scattered across the country


Antique-Brother3361

Living in my own home? In this economy?


fauxfaunus

Convince. My family owns two houses and I kived for four yeara with grandma. Saved rent was a big boon during university and with the the first job. When the war begun, grandma moved in with the parents and my girlfriend's family evacuated here, for half a year. It was challenging, as it was four people on a pretty small territory, in a pretty old house, with utilities fsiling to accommodate all of us. It took a lot of growth to realise my responsibilities to bring change and do the necessary fixes and renovations – which was an important step to remove that wait from my father, for whom extra load became too much. After my oarents-in-law moved out, it became more comfortable. We bought furniture and rolling out renovations, fixing what we can. Baby steps, but we're definitely getting somewhere. There was a lot of bombing on energy infrastructure, so winter 2022-2023 was dark, stressful and compromising for our jobs. Making steps toward addressing broke something in me, but it also gave me the confidence that I can tweak the world around myself to make it more comfortable for my family. My relationship with dad become better when I took more responsibilities, and making a few projects together was fun (prior, it felt like a burden on him). New winter is on the horizon, and the house needs to be insulated. Maybe I need contract a company to make me a mini-solar station. And ventilation should be remodeling (basically, added). We'd probably move out some day. If we having kids, we need a bigger house. My wife would love in a city, when those stop being bombed so often. But for now, having a house was a huge boon to out young family, the same way it was to me in university. That's the wisdom my parents knew, and I'd try to provide this stepping stone to the future generation.


rafapott

I live in Brazil. Families don't usually incentivize their offspring to leave their homes as soon as they turn 18. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not as common as I imagine it is in the US. Most people I've seen leave once they're married or enter college far from home, or get a job far from home or something like that. Some people leave because they absolutely cannot stand their parents or siblings. A minimally decent house here can cost hundreds of thousands to buy. If you work minimum wage rent can eat up to 80% of your income or more, so unless you make some good money or have someone to share expenses with, moving out is not exactly feasible.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

That's really interesting. It's definitely not a big cultural factor here in Australia. Although, finances and rent definitely are.


apexjnr

Money, convenience, location. > Because I had to figure out the necessary skills to survive in the real world, left me with a real sense of independence. I already have this, i kinda developed it whilst being at home, my parents trained me without having to explicitly train me. Moving requires me to have to care about things that i otherwise wouldn't have to care about, also the idea of paying rent vs making peace with my parents slides towards my parents when rents double, months when gas or electricity costs 4x more, some other random thing happens like covid. Plus i have to maintain a job that traps me because job security becomes rent security, it was much easier to progress whilst not having to worry if i will have a place to live based on a choice to make more money or learn something new.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Fair enough.


Advanced-Research726

Not enough for rent(+plus house cleaning, ect...) And not in a position to take a loan to buy an apartment


Its1mple

I don’t have to pay rent so I can use that money for investment. Paid out really well thanks to NVIDIA.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

That's a good move lol.


QueenOfTieflings

I was living with friends until I lost my job in the pandemic. I moved back home because my parents wouldn’t charge me rent until I could find work. That way I didn’t have to use up my savings. Eventually got another job and soon I will have a decent down payment for my own home.


Decoherence-

My roommate was audio recording me


Bitter_Doubt_2399

What that's crazy, can I ask why?


Decoherence-

I don’t know. There was a whole lot of other stuff she was doing. She started playing music from her room but only when she would leave the apartment so I was forced to listen to it all day. I would literally beg her not to do this. She did a lot of things that I just have made peace with the fact that I will never understand why


Decoherence-

I will say she knew because I talked to her about it many times that I had a fear of discovering I was being recorded. I used to keep a cover over my phone camera even. And she started doing these sorts of harmful things after I heavily limited communication because she was harming me that way prior. I think it will be a funny story one day.


Aezzil

Laziness. Straight up. (23M) I enjoy being at home. I enjoy the yard, the grass, gardening, etc. Have the second biggest room. I'm definitely very grateful for my parents. They have never asked me for a dime, and my dad has, in fact, bailed me out of a small CC debt when I was unemployed. He even refused the money to pay back so I just wired the money from my bank acc to his. I definitely don't want to live like this forever. Even though Im paid pretty decent hourly for where I live, the hours are very inconsistent, making it a gamble if I were to move out. I currently drive one of my dads old cars, but I am definitely looking for my own.


betooie

I don't have a reason to. I live cheaper, not that many responsibilities and I get along very well with my family I'm 27 and I might think on moving out when I get a good job, I still have a year left to get my college degree so maybe when I get to the third floor I would start to seriously think about it


Ripster404

I go to a college nearby so with the savings I can afford to not take student loans, and save up a small nest egg


SeptemberSan

At first, because that was easier. I broke up after a really long relationship, my apartment was too big and expensive for me. And now, it's just really hard to find an apartment. I don't have a huge salary and the apartments are expensive and it's a battle to find one. I would like to leave my parents house because it's really hard to live with them, having intimacy, ... But I'm searching and trying not to go crazy.


KingJollyRoger

While I probably need the skills you have. Due to cost of living, combined with my mental health problems I seriously can’t be on my own. Though I get along very well with my parents so I at least feel wanted still. I’ll take that comfort and stability any day as I know my life wouldn’t be.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

I hope it goes well for you!!


Demonsan

Save almost half my income if not more by living with my loving parents and having a nice 2 rooms to me ? Or Living in a dinky shitty apartment all by myself just for... ? For what ???????


Beregolas

As someone who moved out at 21 on my own accord, with a girlfriend that was kicked out at 16: you don’t need to get kicked out to learn live skills. I stayed a little longer because it’s just easier when going to university in my home town. I still cooked my own food, became quite a good home cook during that time, manage my own money, investments/savings and bills, washed my clothes etc. It also helps against being alone. There are many cultures where family is more important than here in the west and I can honestly see why: when you are still living with your family, you are not alone. Being alone without friends is a common cause for many (mental) health problems. Yes, sometimes family is even worse, but at least where I come from that is still the exception, even if every family has it’s dark sides and those cases are generally louder than families that are just okay.


Kastlo

You had to leave, so it was not a decision on your part to leave right? So think of the reasons why you didn't leave before they kicked you out. But honestly: if you don't have the certainty of self sustenance, why would you leave? Especially if you're studying


Bitter_Doubt_2399

didn't really have any reasons to stay. My mum kicked me out during the pandemic she was paranoid about getting sick. Lived in a tent out the back of my dads flat for about a year till it went underwater, the situation was unstable, and I had to leave again. I love my family to pieces. Although, It's hard to imagine actually living with them even if the situation's stable now. I'm now sought of realising, after reading the replies. It's actually a lot easier for me to build life skills on my own in relative stability than with my family. Which is something I didn't even consider. I suppose if you have support, why go anywhere.


Kastlo

Pretty much, yes. Makes perfect sense in your case that your family may have been an hindrance in gaining some skills. I think it may be true in some general case too (i.e. it’s easier to learn how to cook on your own than when you live with your parents)


aleks_xendr

Rent prices suck rn, and I don't hate my parents, we actually get along really well, no brainer decision really


Pure_Zucchini_Rage

I lost my job, but even if I was employed, I would still have to live with my family. The cost of rent here is getting higher and higher and I don't think I'll be able to live on my own. If I can get a roommate, then it might be fine. My mom is also getting older so I feel like I'll have to either live with her forever or find a place that's close enough to her.


Riksor

Finances. I'm moving out in a month but only because I was awarded free rent with my school. Wouldn't be able to afford to otherwise.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Congradulations!!


Baggyeyed

Culture, this is something I believe is overlooked especially amongst 1st gen American immigrants. I moved to the US when I was three and it was a struggle trying to make sense of my place in America and how I "should" go about my life. Answering your question isn't as simple as "oh it's because of rent and the economy" because my parents have actively tried to keep me as close to them in the hopes that I would fully embrace my culture and ethnic-identity. This is important because parents that come from collectivist culture/traditions aren't raising you to have a sense of self-determination, they're raising you in order for you to take care of them. In my situation this makes it easier for me to live with my parents because leaving them would make them feel awful and make me feel guilty, but also, leaving home and entering the world on your own can be scary in the beginning. Ultimately, do I want to live on my own, absolutely. But most of my life up to now (23M) hasn't been preparing me for that independence, just another terminally online gen z man--child lol.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

That's interesting, I'm Australian. And grew up in the country. Most first-gen immigrants usually don't venture out that far. So that cultural factor is sought of foreign to me.


Guest_907

Because I can't get a job


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Best of luck!


CreateWater

Can’t live alone with my epilepsy. After divorce I moved back in. But it’s been positive for my son who I have half custody over. And the financial aspect is definitely positive as well.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Fair enough, health comes first. Glad it's going well for you and your son.


Mikeality

I'm 28 and have lived on my own since graduating high school. There were a few times I lived at home for a few months, but about a year ago, I moved back home and will stay for a while it's looking like. The main motivator is financial for sure. I made a major career switch, so I won't be making as much as I was for a few years at least. But also because I'd like to own my place asap. I have the budget to rent, but even at my old salary, I'd never be able to save for a down payment in my lifetime with how insane rent prices are these days. My parents are great and don't charge me rent, but I do help with what I can. But if I'm being honest, there is a mental health aspect to it. My family is close, and we get all get along enjoying each other's presence. 10 years on my own left me feeling lonely and homesick often. Privacy is nice, but so is having home cooked food ready most nights. I wouldn't want to live like this forever, but for a few years, I don't see it as a bad thing. I always get very upset when I notice how hostile family relations seem to be the norm with most people these days. I believe it's smarter and more natural for families to stick together longer than what's become normal of moving out at 18.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Happy days, that's fantastic.


FreshOutAFolsom_

I live in California.... I didn't want to still live with my parents at 31 but here we are I'm making more money than ever and I still can't afford a studio or one bedroom apartment and the area I live in they continue to build more and more homes people can't afford instead of affordable housing keeping more people in the places they rent. High demand low availability is only causing rent to creep higher and higher at this point I've given up on moving out


MemesButMusicAlso

25 here living in the US, working and getting my master’s degree while living my college town. Lease ran out, all my friends graduated and moved, relationship ended, so there was really no point in me staying up here and paying the rent. Decided to move home and commute to work until I graduate and find my next job so I can save my salary instead of spend it all on rent to live alone in an apartment


unoriginalasshat

Financial + it being very hard to rent a place right now


Urkara-TheArtOfGame

My country is in financial crisis. More than 50% of the people make minimum wage and you need make double the minimum wage just to survive alone because rents alone will cost the minimum wage. Sooo unless I got a remote job that pays me on European/American levels I had to stay with my parents.


Johnsworth61

I can’t make enough to live on my own anymore. I used to be able to live off $10.00/hr and now I can’t with $15.00.


QuestionMaker207

I went back and forth between living on my own and living with my parents since I graduated high school. I usually lived with my parents when I was in-between semesters at school or when I was having a health issue and couldn't work.


EarFit5448

Cheap.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Nice


aithosrds

Two words: student loans. I haven’t lived with either of my parents since I was 20 except for a brief period when I was 25 when I got a promotion at work that meant I had to suddenly move back to my hometown (needed time to find a place), but I know lots of people that have moved back in with their parents. Sadly it’s a lot more common than ever, not just because of the insane cost of education, but also because real estate and rent prices are insane now.


LordsAbandoned

I left at age 18 because i knew that my mother will kick out me so i wanted to prevent the humiliation and left in my own terms. Sometimes i wish i could have stayed a little longer and had a better family, but some people just don’t have these options. It was extremelly hard to be self-efficient at 18 but i looking back i might not change it. I got very resilient thanks to those early years. On the other hand im kinda still broke at age 32 so yeah.


Bitter_Doubt_2399

Yeah, boss, that's relatable, kinda feel the same.


ThatMBR42

I literally can't afford anything else. Actively searching for better jobs.


Unlike_a_Pro

Economic reasons mainly. In my country and particularly in my city the salaries aren't really matched to living expenses. I barely save money as it is, if I were living on rent my conditions would have low key sucked. I did start at a better paying job recently so things are looking up for me. Still most single young people who are from the city either stay with their parents or move out to a property that their parents own/pay for. Few of my firends who did move out did it with the help of their parents. That being said, I was seriously thinking about moving out (on my own even if it meant having miserable conditions) since I finished uni last year, but then life hit, and my dad passed away. Right now I will probably stay for at least a little bit longer than planned to make sure my mom can handle being on her own. And just so me an my family can learn to navigate grief without having to worry about rent and other unnecessary expenses. Another thing is that here it's common to take care of your parents once you grow old enough. To be honest it's kind of expected, since there are very few retirement homes and they usually suck, so unless people literally have no other options, they choose to stay at home or go live with their kids. Also culturally it's expected of you. I can't count how many times people have suggested that you "Have children so they can take care of you". To sum it up, living conditions make moving out to be a miserable option that you don't take unless you have a good reason to i.e. you moved to a different city/ you don't get along with your family/ you have a serious partner and wish to live with them and so on.


Beneficial-Dingo-701

21 this year, plan to stay for a bit longer (live with my mom). For me, it's definitely financial. My mom has done a great job raising me and my brother so I do my due at home, I cook most of the meals, do most of the laundry and clean most of the house while working a 9-5. I also pay my share of the rent. If possible I'd like to retire my mom early so I'm working hard towards that + my own place just sounds really sick. But I'd say there is no real downsides if your relationship with your parent/s is good. You get to spend more time with them (which is limited and should be cherished), while being able to save more money for your eventual solo-life experience.


Aaggghhhhhh

For most it's probably finantial decision. If you have a good family (not in finantial, but rather interpersonal sense), then you have your safety network, and don't have to take anyones shit. For example, when you live alone and pay all bills, then you can't just quit your job even if it's shitty. If you live with your parents, you can do that and know you won't end up on the street and hungry while you look gor something else. It's also easier to live in a group, any group, and it's cheaper. If you live in a household of 4, for example, than you can all cook every 4th day, instead of every day. You pay one internet provider, instead of 4. Your electricity, heating and water bills will be much less per person than if it were 4 separate households. Food will be cheaper per person because you can buy in bulks. Now, that's all great, but, then you have to work well and be well organized among yourselves to make it work. You have much much less privacy, and less freedom. Specialy if it's your parents. There are pros and cons in everything. The only question is what pros are your top priority and what cons can you tolerate.


rebrando23

Parents are broke and ill and my rent money helps them out a lot more than it would a landlord. Worth sacrificing some of my social life in my 20s to do right by the people who raised me.


Tazaura

not being alone


Vegetable_Ranger_495

I doubt most people are choosing to lol.