It's not, the pilot here was Siegfried "Siggi" Hoffmann, who at the time was MMB's chief test pilot. The video was shot as a factory demo for military customers.
I hate to nitpick but a metric shit tonne is 10 fuck loads. A fuck tonne is 100 shit tonnes so 1000 fuck loads. We don’t really get imperial shit tonnes out here.
I have so many questions….
How many Butt Loads equal a shit ton,
Are fuck ton and shit ton the same ?
If not what’s the conversion formula
Can ass loads be substituted fo butt loads
By 'standard' I assume you mean a short shit ton (aka US shit ton)?
So there are three 'shit tonne' measurements:
1. The short shit ton, aka US shit ton is 2,000/lbs of shit.
2. The long shit ton aka Imperial (British) shit ton is 2240 lbs of shit.
3. The third ton is the metric shit tonne which is, equal to 1000 kilograms, or approximately 2204 pounds, of shit.
So, yes, a metric shit tonne has around 204 lbs of extra shit :)
My guess would be plenty of gun runs back in nam.... staying low flying map of the earth gave ol Charlie less time to get of a lucky shot and distracted them and gave a the boys a chance to di di mau and get to the lz while Charlie was distracted.
The Germans used them in an anti-tank role for decades. German Army Aviation thinks so fondly of it, they are going to toss out their dedicated attack helicopters (Eurocopter Tiger) and get some Eurocopter H145 as a replacement to emulate the old 105.
Funny thing, the H145 is in most regards a direct descendant of the Bo 105. MBB and Kawasaki teamed up to make a "bigger" Bo 105, with MBB contributing almost everything from the Bo 105s rotor and flight control system and Kawasaki designing the airframe. That aircraft became the incredibly successful BK-117. Later, an improved BK-117 was developed. Kawasaki produced version of the updated helicopter are known as BK-117C2, but in Europe it is the EC-145, later renamed H-145. Or, in service with the US military, UH-72.
Not Eurocopter anymore, Airbus. H145 is a marketing name for BK117 C3. The US military uses the C2 as the Lakota, but only in support roles and are upgrading to C3 and the five blade configuration. As a tech rep, we tried to go by the data plate and not the marketing names.
True. Ukraine has put a huge questionmark on the viability of attack helicopters as a concept since all their tasks can be done by much cheaper and much more expendable drones.
So, a bunch of retrofitted light utility choppers could probably be put to an alternative use much more easily than a Tiger Gunship.
I worked as a Tech Rep on the 105 and retired 2 years ago, and I haven’t seen it for like 20 years. If I remember correctly there it a part where he clips a tree with the tail rotor
I just turned 64 and was watching reruns of this...or something like that!! Man those helicopter pilots!! Jan Michael Vincent and Roy Schreider man woohoo!!
For pilots trained in two-bladed helicopters this type of maneuvering will always be unsettling since we’ve been relentlessly warned against zero-G or negative-G maneuvers. The US Army qualification course for the AH-64 includes deliberate negative-G pushovers just to make the point that you *can* do them without instant disaster
In a two-bladed helicopter the blades are basically on long blade mounted on a pivot at the rotor hub (mast). And the blades pivot around that mount kind of like a seesaw. If the aircraft goes negative-g the interior end of the blades can knock against the mast and the forces exerted can snap the rotor mast off taking the rotor with it.
[Check out this explanation.](https://youtu.be/jDg1G2y8ZX4?si=2Ozck-jAKP1kGtf5&t=53)
It does make total sense that the two blades could practically be considered one long blade.
That helps, thanks!
I just watched the video and this seems like the kind of mistake you only get to make once.
Video ist speed up, unfortunately. There is absolutely no way a pilot or machine could handle the g forces when he "jumps" over the trees. Physics simply wouldn't allow this to happen.
And where pray tell did you get that BS information?
And the only way I would even **begin** to agree with you is if it was a carbureted engine. And suffered the same negative g fuel feed problem as the early spitfires did.
There are not that many g's involved when dancing over a tree at fast highway speed. Not even negative ones.
Info from comments on a 13-year-old version of this video on YouTube: This was filmed in Bavaria, in a valley called Teufelsgraben (Devil’s Trench). The pilot is not Charly Zimmermann but Siegfried Hoffmann, MBB’s former chief test pilot. He died in 1989 when crashing a similar Bo-105 during a movie shoot for “Fire Birds”.
He later stuffed it doing cool shit: [https://www.military.com/video/military-aircraft-operations/crash-landings/charlie-zimmermans-fatal-crash/663171869001](https://www.military.com/video/military-aircraft-operations/crash-landings/charlie-zimmermans-fatal-crash/663171869001)
I doubt this is Charly Zimmermann. According to the [German Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charly_Zimmermann), he was alive and retired in 2018.
>After the terrible air show accident involving aircraft from an Italian aerobatic team in Ramstein in August 1988, the then Minister of Defense Rupert Scholz decided not to allow the Bundeswehr to participate in air shows anymore, which inevitably meant that the aerobatic activities of “Charly” Zimmermann had to come to an end.
Maybe the video shows the Italien helicopter
It was an Aermacchi MB-339, a Trainer jet used by the Frecce Tricolori. Around 70 people died when the jet crashed into the crowds.
The Helicopter in the Video, registered N5353V, crashed in 1989 during an airshow in Tuckerton, NJ.
It’s occupant died, but it was not Zimmermann, and not a German army helicopter.
Helicopters are capable of much more than usually ever see them do because they typically put safety first, I’ve seen a lot of pilots show off when I go on maintenance flights (I’m a helicopter mechanic)
This is in no way “typical”. I obviously don’t know this dude’s flight history but he’s either really good and knows the area and done it a few times, or lucky, but probably a little of both.
Won't go without saying for most folks. Otherwise OP wouldn't have asked. They'll think this cat hadn't already scoped every turn.
Honestly, this just makes me uneasy. Impressive? Sure, I guess. But almost every flight moment that I regret was when I was doing things too close to obstacles because it was 'cool'. I now have nightmares about those immature moments.
So for OPs Q - yes this pilot is highly skilled but this flight path has been HIGHLY prepped. Also it's unnecessary and dangerous. Fields like this could easily have wires, widowmakers, tighter than expected turns, etc. All just to show off. Some of the least responsible aviators I've met are ones with the most flight hours - overconfident.
We watched this 30 years ago in AME school. It was old then. This was a promo video for the BO105 and the pilot was VERY experienced. I did hear that he had a fatal accident doing a similar run at one point but that’s not nearly 100% sure in my head.
While certainly not what I would call "easy" it's not as difficult as it looks. Without trying too sound TOO cocky I feel that with a few days sighting runs and practice I could replicate 90% of what he's doing here. And im just a measly 2500hr civilian trained pilot. Not a world champion aerobatics and former military pilot specifically trained in high speed low level flight like Charly Zimmerman, the pilot in the video. I know that sounds cocky, and I don't see myself ever actually attempting it but it looks...for lack of a better word...doable
Helicopters are really happy, nimble and (relatively) stable at the speeds he's flying here (looks like about 60-100kts most of the time.) Precision hover work, external load, partial touchdowns, rapid approaches and other such maneuvers are a fair bit more demanding. This is really just fun flying. Nothing he's doing requires ablsolute inch perfect pinpoint precision or managing complex tasks like weapons deployment or coordinating with a backseat crew to accomplish a hoist rescue.
What this really is, is high consequence. A mistake here is very likely to be fatal. Whereas slower more precise maneuvers may be less likely to kill you if they go wrong (they absolutely can kill you though) they are more difficult. So in reality the hardest parts of this video are...
A) Having the confidence to attempt these manuevers
B) Being competent/trustworthy enough to convince somebody to allow you to attempt them
C) Surviving long enough to accomplish (A) and (B)
This. Also its kind of hard to explain but with enough stick time the aircraft really feels like an extension of your body. I have only gotten a taste of it in VR sims and a tiny bit of actual flight time but at some point flying between trees almost feels as easy as walking through a door.
Queue the video (That I'm struggling to find) of the cpg raising concerns about a gap in the tree-line. The pilot replies "it's as wide as a barn door" with a call of rotor-strike soon after.
Yeah it is a risk when flying below treetop. That is one of the reasons why doing it 'blind' through a route you have never been before is so dangerous. The pilot in that video judged the gap as wide enough but did not see that there was a single branch sticking out and it clipped the rotor disk.
This is actually a part of German army tactics. They fly their helicopters almost at zero altitude and to creep on to the unsuspecting „prey“. Those Bo 105 had no armor at all so they made it up by being sneaky as f&@k. They attacked from almost invisible angles (tree tops, roofs, large boulders etc.) from 4-5 km away and disappeared immediately after hitting the target, only to repeat it from another angle. Rinse and repeat with a swarm of multiple helicopters with 6 rockets each.
source: https://youtu.be/D2jIgR7twmc?si=0O5QEJadECTg9_rs
Well, I knew about the show and I knew what it was about and this bird was making with the Hollywood-type aerobatics so it was an easy leap. I woulda said Blue Thunder ( I did see that one) but it was a completely different style.
As others have said, the skill is one thing. And probably the lesser thing. Having pre-checked/run the area is key!
I think many pilots could do this flying, the ones I know who normally proved it were Vietnam 500 (Loach) pilots and others. I wouldn’t call it good piloting though, if they just showed up to a new place and did this. As others have pointed out - there are so so so many things that could kill you there. The maneuvering of the helicopter is among the least. There could be power or communication lines hidden between trees, a fence you don’t see before it was too late, etc.
Important point here: this is a German helicopter from a time when the whole of 3rd Shock Army was sitting just over the inter-German border. Flying low like this can be dangerous - but flying high in a war with 3rd Shock Army and the rest is even more dangerous - hence this sales demonstration.
Worth noting that there are lots of videos from Ukraine of helicopters flying as low or lower - due to a similarly dangerous SAM/AAA environment.
Not too crazy. More than likely the pilot has reconned the area and is aware of the hazards. The camera angles make the fields look tighter than they are. The way the aircraft responds looks like it’s as light as possible, maybe half a bag of gas or less. Impressive flying but doable.
NIBAT 1 training 05, had a pilot with a 'crash test dummy' badge on the back of his helmet do this with us in the back over STANTA.
Especially the initial climb and dive "anti-ambush take off" followed by trying to check the temperature of some sheep using the front part of the skid.
My grandpa flew Hueys in Vietnam through the trees and only 50ish feet from the ground sometimes. Only way to avoid AA. Definitely advanced flying here, also looks fun as hell
I think the saying you're looking for is '*there is no such thing as good pilots, only old pilots.*'
The corollary of which is: '*Just because you can do it, doesn't me you should*.'
My opinion:
The pilot probably had several thousand hours.
Do do what was done in that video, a pilot can be proficient enough after 100-200 hours to make the video. Find someone who is a natural and ballsy, they can do it with less than 40 hours.
The BO-105 is built for this exact scenario: extreme low-level hunting of Soviet tanks that cross the West German border.
While this is a showcase obviously, the training of flight crews that were using this thing involved similar scenarios.
Advanced for the 90's in terms of tech. The pilot is really good, and definitely knows how to use the machine. That is timeless, so yeah, in a sense, its pretty advanced.
This is definitely showing off.
That's not to say the pilot isn't good. He's obviously turned that machine into an extension of his body, but this is for the advertisement.
If you want more insane shenanigans, look up bush pilots and crop dusters. Those guys are nuts.
(I just noticed that he did all of this from the right seat)
I still haven’t been able to fly a craft that wouldn’t over speed, pancake, or self destruct doing these maneuvers. But I fly like a granny so even if I was in one of these probably not.
This takes some practice, but it's not *that* big a deal. I was lucky enough to have an instructor that taught me the basics of this kind of flying. He knew an area just like this in Southern Wisconsin (U.S.) where we went out in an R-22 and did these kinds of maneuvers. Main thing I remembered was using the collective to tighten the turns. Good advice in or out of a (literal) pinch.
It’s nuts. 99.999% of heli pilots would kill themselves doing that. This pilot did in fact kill himself doing similar stunts:
[https://youtu.be/IiEfX3PDzTc?si=b9W7eCpc3TIHdkJZ](https://youtu.be/IiEfX3PDzTc?si=b9W7eCpc3TIHdkJZ)
I would assume that other than the altitude and the obstacles, the flying is fairly routine. To be fair, any precision flying is just flying but close to 'something'.
Just seems like terrain flight to me. The break turns were cool but everything else is just standard terrain flight shit. Although it’s impressive to see in a small helicopter that’s more power limits and doesn’t have that sirkosky escape lever.
The BO-105 has amazing flight control response, like, really, really good. It responds in \~0.08 seconds. Obviously the pilot is trained, but the BO-105 assists in this even more.
I hate this fucking saying. Not only is it over used as fuck it's just a flat out lie. There are shit loads of old bold pilots and tons of dead timid pilots too.
Stupid fucking saying that's used as cudgel to brow beat people into incompetence due to lack of challenging themselves.
I've always much preferred to say "fly confidently and cautiously."
This.
Beat me to it.
There are plenty of highly trained and competent pilots who wouldn’t even begin to think of doing anything like this. Most people do have a survival instinct, but there are dare devils among us.
One things for certain, that pilot has a metric shit tonne of hours flying that thing... Looks pretty advanced to me.
If the comment below the video is true and the pilot really is Charlie Zimmermann. The helicopter is piloted by one of the best helicopter pilot ever.
It's not, the pilot here was Siegfried "Siggi" Hoffmann, who at the time was MMB's chief test pilot. The video was shot as a factory demo for military customers.
Yes, I believe that is correct.
It’s a 1980’s factory promotional video
Does a metric shit ton weigh more than a standard shit ton??
Yes obviously. It is comprised of 12 fuck loads. Whereas standard is a measly 8.5 assloads
I hate to nitpick but a metric shit tonne is 10 fuck loads. A fuck tonne is 100 shit tonnes so 1000 fuck loads. We don’t really get imperial shit tonnes out here.
I have so many questions…. How many Butt Loads equal a shit ton, Are fuck ton and shit ton the same ? If not what’s the conversion formula Can ass loads be substituted fo butt loads
Butt loads is actually a unit of volume.
Underrated comment
Volume… just like decibels right? There’s a point where the magnitude becomes real dangerous for your health.
Just to make matters worse/ better, it's a logarithmic scale too.
I remember the imperial fuck loads. Big bois alright.
Depends how you define a "standard" ton.
By 'standard' I assume you mean a short shit ton (aka US shit ton)? So there are three 'shit tonne' measurements: 1. The short shit ton, aka US shit ton is 2,000/lbs of shit. 2. The long shit ton aka Imperial (British) shit ton is 2240 lbs of shit. 3. The third ton is the metric shit tonne which is, equal to 1000 kilograms, or approximately 2204 pounds, of shit. So, yes, a metric shit tonne has around 204 lbs of extra shit :)
Yes, you go by increments of 10.
Metric is standard…
A metric shit ton (or tonne) is 10.2% larger than the imperial shit ton.
My guess would be plenty of gun runs back in nam.... staying low flying map of the earth gave ol Charlie less time to get of a lucky shot and distracted them and gave a the boys a chance to di di mau and get to the lz while Charlie was distracted.
“Nap of the Earth”
Nice use of the airwolf theme
I was going to say, “airwolf theme + badass video”, take my upvote
The original video with a ‘70s music is even better
The BO105 is an amazing piece of machinery. Very underrated chopper for it size and capabilities. German's got this one right.
I don't know if it's underrated, Aaron Fitzgerald in the Red Bull bird really shows what it can do.
The Germans used them in an anti-tank role for decades. German Army Aviation thinks so fondly of it, they are going to toss out their dedicated attack helicopters (Eurocopter Tiger) and get some Eurocopter H145 as a replacement to emulate the old 105.
Funny thing, the H145 is in most regards a direct descendant of the Bo 105. MBB and Kawasaki teamed up to make a "bigger" Bo 105, with MBB contributing almost everything from the Bo 105s rotor and flight control system and Kawasaki designing the airframe. That aircraft became the incredibly successful BK-117. Later, an improved BK-117 was developed. Kawasaki produced version of the updated helicopter are known as BK-117C2, but in Europe it is the EC-145, later renamed H-145. Or, in service with the US military, UH-72.
On the data plate it is still a BK117
Not Eurocopter anymore, Airbus. H145 is a marketing name for BK117 C3. The US military uses the C2 as the Lakota, but only in support roles and are upgrading to C3 and the five blade configuration. As a tech rep, we tried to go by the data plate and not the marketing names.
Well the memorys helped a bit but in the end they are much cheaper to buy and mantain, more flexible and are very reliable.
True. Ukraine has put a huge questionmark on the viability of attack helicopters as a concept since all their tasks can be done by much cheaper and much more expendable drones. So, a bunch of retrofitted light utility choppers could probably be put to an alternative use much more easily than a Tiger Gunship.
It's rough, just like the german language.
Yes to be noted it has a rigid rotor system which allows it to do more radical maneuvers.
Holy shit I haven’t seen this video since I was a kid like 20+ years ago
I know, right?
I worked as a Tech Rep on the 105 and retired 2 years ago, and I haven’t seen it for like 20 years. If I remember correctly there it a part where he clips a tree with the tail rotor
lol.. you ain’t old enough kid. The music is even older (Airwolf) -signed Hawke
Bro I’m 40. Airwolf is my time.
I’m 50, have a seat, you were watching reruns on Nickelodeon I was watching this shit live.
I just turned 64 and was watching reruns of this...or something like that!! Man those helicopter pilots!! Jan Michael Vincent and Roy Schreider man woohoo!!
lol. All good. Timeless show. Knight Rider but a helicopter. Just badass
Every time I see this video I just think that those pushovers look hella uncomfortable.
For pilots trained in two-bladed helicopters this type of maneuvering will always be unsettling since we’ve been relentlessly warned against zero-G or negative-G maneuvers. The US Army qualification course for the AH-64 includes deliberate negative-G pushovers just to make the point that you *can* do them without instant disaster
Mast bumping scary
Help me understand how hard pushovers are more dangerous on a 2-blade. Is it some huge amount of torque on the hub?
In a two-bladed helicopter the blades are basically on long blade mounted on a pivot at the rotor hub (mast). And the blades pivot around that mount kind of like a seesaw. If the aircraft goes negative-g the interior end of the blades can knock against the mast and the forces exerted can snap the rotor mast off taking the rotor with it. [Check out this explanation.](https://youtu.be/jDg1G2y8ZX4?si=2Ozck-jAKP1kGtf5&t=53)
It does make total sense that the two blades could practically be considered one long blade. That helps, thanks! I just watched the video and this seems like the kind of mistake you only get to make once.
What’s the danger of negative g? Blades sticking the boom or something?
Mast bumping. Sounds gentle, but it’s deadly https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/121546-what-exactly-mast-bumping.html
sounds like a sex move
Not as scary with the rigid rotor.
Video ist speed up, unfortunately. There is absolutely no way a pilot or machine could handle the g forces when he "jumps" over the trees. Physics simply wouldn't allow this to happen.
And where pray tell did you get that BS information? And the only way I would even **begin** to agree with you is if it was a carbureted engine. And suffered the same negative g fuel feed problem as the early spitfires did. There are not that many g's involved when dancing over a tree at fast highway speed. Not even negative ones.
Info from comments on a 13-year-old version of this video on YouTube: This was filmed in Bavaria, in a valley called Teufelsgraben (Devil’s Trench). The pilot is not Charly Zimmermann but Siegfried Hoffmann, MBB’s former chief test pilot. He died in 1989 when crashing a similar Bo-105 during a movie shoot for “Fire Birds”.
He later stuffed it doing cool shit: [https://www.military.com/video/military-aircraft-operations/crash-landings/charlie-zimmermans-fatal-crash/663171869001](https://www.military.com/video/military-aircraft-operations/crash-landings/charlie-zimmermans-fatal-crash/663171869001)
I doubt this is Charly Zimmermann. According to the [German Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charly_Zimmermann), he was alive and retired in 2018.
>After the terrible air show accident involving aircraft from an Italian aerobatic team in Ramstein in August 1988, the then Minister of Defense Rupert Scholz decided not to allow the Bundeswehr to participate in air shows anymore, which inevitably meant that the aerobatic activities of “Charly” Zimmermann had to come to an end. Maybe the video shows the Italien helicopter
It was an Aermacchi MB-339, a Trainer jet used by the Frecce Tricolori. Around 70 people died when the jet crashed into the crowds. The Helicopter in the Video, registered N5353V, crashed in 1989 during an airshow in Tuckerton, NJ. It’s occupant died, but it was not Zimmermann, and not a German army helicopter.
Oh dang, RIP
Ouch…all that experience and bought it in a simple steep turn
This answers the question
that was Siegfried Hoffman in n5353v in 1989. zimmerman is alive
Did not know that -(
Helicopters are capable of much more than usually ever see them do because they typically put safety first, I’ve seen a lot of pilots show off when I go on maintenance flights (I’m a helicopter mechanic)
You can do amazing things when you put safety third.
But not showing off this much, this is a little bit nuts
This is in no way “typical”. I obviously don’t know this dude’s flight history but he’s either really good and knows the area and done it a few times, or lucky, but probably a little of both.
Having multiple cameras set up might be a good indicator that this wasn't just impromptu
That goes without saying, but he still dragged his skids through the grass
Won't go without saying for most folks. Otherwise OP wouldn't have asked. They'll think this cat hadn't already scoped every turn. Honestly, this just makes me uneasy. Impressive? Sure, I guess. But almost every flight moment that I regret was when I was doing things too close to obstacles because it was 'cool'. I now have nightmares about those immature moments. So for OPs Q - yes this pilot is highly skilled but this flight path has been HIGHLY prepped. Also it's unnecessary and dangerous. Fields like this could easily have wires, widowmakers, tighter than expected turns, etc. All just to show off. Some of the least responsible aviators I've met are ones with the most flight hours - overconfident.
I was saying it’s obvious this wasn’t caught “in the wild” with the production
I know. I understand that most here will get that. But OPs question was "was this a slow Tuesday?" Indicating they don't see it's highly prepped.
The most overconfident pilots I’ve ever met are mostly dead now
Factory demo pilot
We watched this 30 years ago in AME school. It was old then. This was a promo video for the BO105 and the pilot was VERY experienced. I did hear that he had a fatal accident doing a similar run at one point but that’s not nearly 100% sure in my head.
Low level maneuvering did it: https://www.military.com/video/military-aircraft-operations/crash-landings/charlie-zimmermans-fatal-crash/663171869001
that was Siegfried Hoffman in n5353V in 1989 zimmerman is alive
While certainly not what I would call "easy" it's not as difficult as it looks. Without trying too sound TOO cocky I feel that with a few days sighting runs and practice I could replicate 90% of what he's doing here. And im just a measly 2500hr civilian trained pilot. Not a world champion aerobatics and former military pilot specifically trained in high speed low level flight like Charly Zimmerman, the pilot in the video. I know that sounds cocky, and I don't see myself ever actually attempting it but it looks...for lack of a better word...doable Helicopters are really happy, nimble and (relatively) stable at the speeds he's flying here (looks like about 60-100kts most of the time.) Precision hover work, external load, partial touchdowns, rapid approaches and other such maneuvers are a fair bit more demanding. This is really just fun flying. Nothing he's doing requires ablsolute inch perfect pinpoint precision or managing complex tasks like weapons deployment or coordinating with a backseat crew to accomplish a hoist rescue. What this really is, is high consequence. A mistake here is very likely to be fatal. Whereas slower more precise maneuvers may be less likely to kill you if they go wrong (they absolutely can kill you though) they are more difficult. So in reality the hardest parts of this video are... A) Having the confidence to attempt these manuevers B) Being competent/trustworthy enough to convince somebody to allow you to attempt them C) Surviving long enough to accomplish (A) and (B)
This. Also its kind of hard to explain but with enough stick time the aircraft really feels like an extension of your body. I have only gotten a taste of it in VR sims and a tiny bit of actual flight time but at some point flying between trees almost feels as easy as walking through a door.
Queue the video (That I'm struggling to find) of the cpg raising concerns about a gap in the tree-line. The pilot replies "it's as wide as a barn door" with a call of rotor-strike soon after.
Yeah it is a risk when flying below treetop. That is one of the reasons why doing it 'blind' through a route you have never been before is so dangerous. The pilot in that video judged the gap as wide enough but did not see that there was a single branch sticking out and it clipped the rotor disk.
"Oh yee of little faith" https://youtu.be/lW5Dxizy4ZE?si=Dx7UqXBGFZ6Kw1b8
The hardest part is the CoG shifted so far forward due to the massive balls of the pilot.
2:50- the blades almost touch grass.
Also at the very beginning he's close enough to the tree that be blows all the tree jizz[or pollen, I guess]
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That was the MBB ad vid when they were marketing it in the late 70's.
This is a video that made me want to be a helicopter pilot
This is actually a part of German army tactics. They fly their helicopters almost at zero altitude and to creep on to the unsuspecting „prey“. Those Bo 105 had no armor at all so they made it up by being sneaky as f&@k. They attacked from almost invisible angles (tree tops, roofs, large boulders etc.) from 4-5 km away and disappeared immediately after hitting the target, only to repeat it from another angle. Rinse and repeat with a swarm of multiple helicopters with 6 rockets each. source: https://youtu.be/D2jIgR7twmc?si=0O5QEJadECTg9_rs
Its nuts. A pilot can do this until they crash. The problem is the small margin of error. One mistake and it’s over.
This is a video of my last instrument check ride.
Looks and sounds like the opening intro to some Airwolf-type TV show!
“Airwolf-type”, as if the music isn’t literally the airwolf theme 😂
Was it? I never watched the show, so I wouldn't know.
It is indeed the airwolf song in this video …you made a spot on guess!
Well, I knew about the show and I knew what it was about and this bird was making with the Hollywood-type aerobatics so it was an easy leap. I woulda said Blue Thunder ( I did see that one) but it was a completely different style.
As others have said, the skill is one thing. And probably the lesser thing. Having pre-checked/run the area is key! I think many pilots could do this flying, the ones I know who normally proved it were Vietnam 500 (Loach) pilots and others. I wouldn’t call it good piloting though, if they just showed up to a new place and did this. As others have pointed out - there are so so so many things that could kill you there. The maneuvering of the helicopter is among the least. There could be power or communication lines hidden between trees, a fence you don’t see before it was too late, etc.
Professional-grade trolling for wires
This decades old video will continue to inspire overconfident pilots for generations to come
I saw this video probably 20yrs ago. Ohhh how cyclic the Internet is.
Important point here: this is a German helicopter from a time when the whole of 3rd Shock Army was sitting just over the inter-German border. Flying low like this can be dangerous - but flying high in a war with 3rd Shock Army and the rest is even more dangerous - hence this sales demonstration. Worth noting that there are lots of videos from Ukraine of helicopters flying as low or lower - due to a similarly dangerous SAM/AAA environment.
There's tons of videos uploaded by Ukrainians who are flying so low they need to swivel left and right in order to dodge trucks as they pass them.
Not too crazy. More than likely the pilot has reconned the area and is aware of the hazards. The camera angles make the fields look tighter than they are. The way the aircraft responds looks like it’s as light as possible, maybe half a bag of gas or less. Impressive flying but doable.
NIBAT 1 training 05, had a pilot with a 'crash test dummy' badge on the back of his helmet do this with us in the back over STANTA. Especially the initial climb and dive "anti-ambush take off" followed by trying to check the temperature of some sheep using the front part of the skid.
A+ for music selection.
The US equivalent of this would be an Ag Pilot.
My grandpa flew Hueys in Vietnam through the trees and only 50ish feet from the ground sometimes. Only way to avoid AA. Definitely advanced flying here, also looks fun as hell
That pilot was in nam for sure
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are very few old & bold pilots.. or something like that.
I think the saying you're looking for is '*there is no such thing as good pilots, only old pilots.*' The corollary of which is: '*Just because you can do it, doesn't me you should*.'
That music is a banger, also this could be attempted by someone with a lot of experience in piloting.
Bro did FPV racing before there were FPV drones.
Literally looks like he is responsible for the well manicured grass lawn that he is flying over.
While there is great flying in this video, there’s also great lens selection and shot composition.
I was wondering if anyone else was going to say this. There’s a lot of telephoto foreshortening going on, and done clever transitions too.
My opinion: The pilot probably had several thousand hours. Do do what was done in that video, a pilot can be proficient enough after 100-200 hours to make the video. Find someone who is a natural and ballsy, they can do it with less than 40 hours.
The BO-105 is built for this exact scenario: extreme low-level hunting of Soviet tanks that cross the West German border. While this is a showcase obviously, the training of flight crews that were using this thing involved similar scenarios.
Not just skill but also how much risk they are willing to take on.
It looks perfectly suicidal to me, but I am just a lowly fixed-wing pilot.
the only helo that can fly a looping… afaik
that’s exactly how I fly. in videogames
Advanced for the 90's in terms of tech. The pilot is really good, and definitely knows how to use the machine. That is timeless, so yeah, in a sense, its pretty advanced.
I like the Knight Rider music
This is definitely showing off. That's not to say the pilot isn't good. He's obviously turned that machine into an extension of his body, but this is for the advertisement. If you want more insane shenanigans, look up bush pilots and crop dusters. Those guys are nuts. (I just noticed that he did all of this from the right seat)
I still haven’t been able to fly a craft that wouldn’t over speed, pancake, or self destruct doing these maneuvers. But I fly like a granny so even if I was in one of these probably not.
What a beautiful valley
This takes some practice, but it's not *that* big a deal. I was lucky enough to have an instructor that taught me the basics of this kind of flying. He knew an area just like this in Southern Wisconsin (U.S.) where we went out in an R-22 and did these kinds of maneuvers. Main thing I remembered was using the collective to tighten the turns. Good advice in or out of a (literal) pinch.
realy love the BO 105, working on it is just great
Im a fixed wing pilot, but i can assure you this is not normal flying
Give it some roller skates
Advanced skill set. Can’t say the same for the music selection. Would’ve chosen to go with the beautiful sound of the 105.
Loving the Airwolf music. Excellent pilot
That’s how you break up a church picnic.
If it would be hard in GTA, it’s super hard in real life
Aren’t they playing the Airwolf theme music over top of this?
I've probably watched this video a thousand times. And I will happily watch it a thousand more. It never gets old.
It looks a lot like U.S. Army Scout pilot training to me. Sub 25ft, masking, and unmasking, bmp attacks, pitch back turns. It takes training for sure.
It’s nuts. 99.999% of heli pilots would kill themselves doing that. This pilot did in fact kill himself doing similar stunts: [https://youtu.be/IiEfX3PDzTc?si=b9W7eCpc3TIHdkJZ](https://youtu.be/IiEfX3PDzTc?si=b9W7eCpc3TIHdkJZ)
That's Mr Zimmerman. NOT a regular tuesday, no.
All flying tigers become crashing tigers
I would assume that other than the altitude and the obstacles, the flying is fairly routine. To be fair, any precision flying is just flying but close to 'something'.
I up vote solely because of the Airwolf theme
Just seems like terrain flight to me. The break turns were cool but everything else is just standard terrain flight shit. Although it’s impressive to see in a small helicopter that’s more power limits and doesn’t have that sirkosky escape lever.
The BO-105 has amazing flight control response, like, really, really good. It responds in \~0.08 seconds. Obviously the pilot is trained, but the BO-105 assists in this even more.
BO105. Can handle up to 3.5 positive Gs and mast bumping is not an issue so it’s known for its aerobatics.
And this is how the 160th soar started😂😂😂
There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots
*laughs in Tex Johnston and Bob Hoover*
I hate this fucking saying. Not only is it over used as fuck it's just a flat out lie. There are shit loads of old bold pilots and tons of dead timid pilots too. Stupid fucking saying that's used as cudgel to brow beat people into incompetence due to lack of challenging themselves. I've always much preferred to say "fly confidently and cautiously."
This. Beat me to it. There are plenty of highly trained and competent pilots who wouldn’t even begin to think of doing anything like this. Most people do have a survival instinct, but there are dare devils among us.
This has to be some Vietnam veteran flying.
Pilot was German
Not one German was shot down over Vietnam. Their record speaks for itself.
As a pilot with a few thousand hours. It’s actually pretty easy. Knowing your aircraft is key. Then you can do anything
Right up till you can’t, and crash. Hopefully solo
Easy buttercup. Either experience you can accomplish a lot. There are old pilots , but no old bold pilots.
^Winkle ^Brown