I know a lot of players that came over from Destiny 2 since The Final Shape was delayed til June. I'm certain there will be a temporary drop off from Helldivers when that comes out
I fell off of the AAA treadmill years ago and it's been so refreshing. I watch people get all worked up over these games followed by disappointment. Meanwhile I have a few core games I get a disgusting amount of replay out of like Factorio and then get the joy of discovering an utterly beautiful gem like this, Balatro or, years ago,Deep Rock Galactic when it was new.
I save so much money and it's so chill being off of the mainstream hype roller coaster.
Yeah, I still have some big franchises I like and play like the Division but most of my gaming time is spent on indy titles like DRG, Mount & Blade, Elite Dangerous, Valheim etc...these games tend to be more innovative, cheaper and with a more active and responsive dev team (ok maybe not Elite)
I like the look of SW Outlaws but that price and they're already shoving season passes down our throats...I quite like Ubisoft games but it already feels like a milking machine.
I legit threw another 20 bucks at Arrowhead just cuz of that. I've spent more time defending Super Earth, than I have on any recent AAA title.
I didn't even need to. I still had the 1k super credits saved up for the next bond. But I *gotta* support democracy, and every dollar spent is like a vote.
A vote for reasonable pricing , and fantastic gaming.
Yes same thing here. I paid an additional 10€ to buy a full rotation of armor that I really liked. I just did reach 100 hours with this game and I'm far from done with it. Instead of buying another game I just invest a bit in this one and it feels fair.
Coming off the high of bg3 as a fan of the original I was afraid to return to the sea of mediocre games but holy shit did this fucking game came out of nowhere to me and I’m glad I don’t have to play shit games again yet. I’ve maxed almost everything and I still can’t put this game down.
After not playing video games for a while, I went from BG3 to Armored Core 6, and now this. A string of great games that I couldn't put down (and play multiple times).
The time it takes to earn things makes it actually feel like a reward
I’m putting in time and effort and getting payed, it’s like working another job, except I get to travel for this job and see exotic new places and creatures o7
I won't lie, I went back and bought Halo and Reach while it's on sale, I know at some point I'll want to go back through the stories...BUT NOT ANYTIME SOON BECAUSE THERE IS A WAR TO WIN AND CHEEK---er, DEMOCRACY TO SPREAD!
With Helldivers, Balatro and Against the Storm
claiming all my game time this is a so damn good year for games that I don’t even care for a Star Wars title.
Plus I still hate Ubi for what they did to the settlers and these price tags in no way will be justified in content unless it’s GTA6 level.
Oh man, bad timing (as usual for the franchise). FW was a great game, but I can understand because I’ve gotten sucked so much into this one I’m not playing anything else either.
But you should get around to it.
I really wanna like it so I re downloaded
But it was just so grind-y. Hopefully this time I can fall in love like the few times it took me with Witcher 3
It’s nice how refreshing Helldivers has been. Sure it’s still monetised but even that’s nowhere near the level of the shit most companies pull off. Plus the games just fun in general.
And remember, you can farm supercredits playing the game, and you can get 1000 supercredits in exchange for medals in the base warbond, and 600 more if you have the other two premium warbonds.
I give 0 fucks about being able to earn premium currency/price of premium currency.
The real star of the show is the lack of bullshit timed battlepasses, fomo miss out on it play 400 hrs to unlock a tayler swift helldiver fuckshit bullfuckery.
It’s like they expect you to play the game because… it’s fun to play the game. Instead of to fill out some fucking hogshit bullfuckery battlepass or limited edition fuckery.
Thank god
Also how cheap everything is. I had 4 dollars on my psn account and bought some super credits. Bought the warbond cause i was missing like 200 and now i bought 2 helmets and an armor, is just crazy
I think devs fail to realize that if you make a fun game and it feels rewarding to play, then people will be happy to spend money on it for more fun.
Instead, they make an unfun game, beat you over the head with micro transactions, and add monotonous grinding to it and are surprised when the game doesn't do well.
Helldivers launched as a mid tier game in terms of cost. I'll be happy to throw them a couple of bucks for super credits. A warbond is worth 2 to 3 Starbucks drinks? I'd do it.
What I love about Helldivers 2 is that they have kept microtransactions _micro_
And also you can fairly quickly get some SC from the game.
So it’s not predatory either.
And because it feels to me as they are acting im good faith, I have no reason not to throw 5€ for the next warbond.
Nowadays that‘s not even a HALF a meal at most fast food places!
Dude, I used to work at Walmart and ate at the in-store Subway all the time because a girl I was flirting with was there. It was like $13 for a full meal and good company.
I just went to a different location now two years later and it was $20 for a midtier sub meal. What the actual fuck
I did the math - based on the two existing premium warbonds, you only need 24 days at 30 SCs/day to be able to unlock each warbond for free.
This is because the two existing premium warbonds have 3 100 SC medal buys. So you only need to earn 700 SCs/month.
And even then, its not like you would have to get 700 EVERY month, warbonds dont expire. You can get fewer one month, and more the next one. You can even not played for a month and still catch up later without missing out on anything. Awesome system.
you can farm SC in trivial difficulty. was trying out new weapons and ended up getting 30 SC in one run. next run i only got 10 SC. playing normally with randoms or friends in higher difficulty you wont notice SC increases by a lot since you are enjoying the game.
$129? Are you Canadian or Australian or is that USD because that’s fucking absurd.
It’s amazing how cheap this game compared to the endless stream of abysmal slop we get from companies that are supposed to be the gold standard.
Either UBISOFT are braindead or they think SW fans are braindead to assume someone will actually buy it at full price
https://preview.redd.it/sp7wkevk2ttc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=edce301c59b0e0d2fc82526da416908d37940a51
They don't want that, have a look at the picture. They have been toying with the idea of subscription based model and 'getting users confortable with not owning games' for a while now. After all the shit they got with that comment, this is their pittiful attempt to make people subscribe - putting an almost 150$ version next to the '18 $ per month with all the stuff'.
I'll put my hand on fire, we are a few years away from Ubisoft trying to make a 'subscription exclusive' game and all the other smooth brain executives to follow.
>we are a few years away from Ubisoft trying to make a 'subscription exclusive' game
I will be genuinely surprised if Ubisoft still exists in a couple years. They gotta get comfortable with people not buying their games.
To be honest, I'm a huge Star Wars fan and this game has gotten nothing but a solid meh from me. The whole story and main character look super cliche and low effort. I don't even know if I'll bother with buying it once it's on sale in a few months.
Two hundred and twenty ($220) kiwi-dollars!
https://www.xbox.com/en-NZ/games/store/star-wars-outlaws-ultimate-edition/9PK76BBP3H0D/0017
For comparative purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac is $9.60 - that's a single, non-bundled burger (or "sandwich" in some places i believe).
And from what we've seen the game doesn't even look that interesting to me. The line about her being "more connected than Han Solo" or whatever that was in the trailer was particularly off-putting. Cant she just be a badass on her own without having to be described as being better than a fan favorite character?
The people that make these big games, movies, tv shows etc are hired on with no experience in established franchises purely to nod their head and push out absolute slop. It's Ubisoft so the game will be good for 5-10 hours and then the paint comes off
No. The writers of these things have no ability to show that without tearing down and shitting on beloved characters with their lame self insert soulless cutout characters.
Canadian its like over $200 for the highest tier and like 90+ for the basic one. Saw the price and laughed my as off.
Ubisoft should be paying us that to play their shit games.
These days, AAA is synonymous with ‘slop’, quite frankly. A focus group tested, marketer approved, Franken-game that is to appeal to all demographics, but never connect too much with a core audience, as it could alienate a potential buyer. It’s a shame.
AAA studios are trying to make games for everyone (to maximize their market share) while AH knows where that gets you. Interestingly, in doing things different, they made a playset that includes a game for everyone.
They made a playset that appeals to anyone who wants in on it. Hell Divers does not appeal to people who want to play survival games, or city builders, or JRPGs. The issue Ubisoft has is that they take something like Far Cry and say "How can we make this appeal to mid 40s mothers who don't want a high intensity experience"
>Hell Divers does not appeal to people who want to play survival games, or city builders, or JRPGs
I'm a 40+yo gamer, big fan of 4X turn-based games (since the first civilization), big fan of turn-based tactical games (since X-COM and History Lines, and I guess on the board chess too xD + later on Final Fantasy Tactics), fan of RPG (since Bard's Tales and Might and Magic) or JRPG-like (obvious Zelda, Secret of Mana, first iterations of FF before playstation).
Though I won't deny I had some moderate fun with titles like MDK, Doom, Quake Duke Nukem and Half-Life/CS in the 90s/early 00s, 1st person or 3rd person over the head/shoulder shooters were never my cup of tea,
And yet, Helldivers 2 is my cup of liber-tea.
I guess it is because HD2 makes me believe i'm back in time, sitting on the couch or on the deskchair (or in the arcade game center), gamepad/joystick in hands with my little brother as player2, both of us teamplaying beat'em up/shoot'em up/slash'em up kind of games.
The good old days and coop pve games of my youth and teenage, Gauntlet (and yes we also played the arrowhead more recent version too :P), Gryzor/Contra/Probotector, Double Dragon, Golden Axe, Final Fight, Fatal Fury, Battletoads, etc.
Helldivers2 as the exact same feeling of dumb fun together. Only difference is my brother is not high pitch yelling directly in my ears anymore, but now deep low pitch indirectly through my headphones and Discord.
Don't forget unfinished on release with horrible, often game breaking bugs and glitches. But don't worry, the in game store that gets constantly thrown in your face will be buttery smooth and work perfectly.
I really hate what too many 'AAA' game devs do now, launch a game in a broken state and patch it til it mostly works over the next year.
Miss the days of games being finished on release... Ok, I'm done ranting.
I love this game but a lot of that rant absolutely applies to to Helldivers and still does. The games been getting band-aid fixes since launch and still has a bunch of issues that've been around for a while.
Thats true but at least arrowhead has been transparent about it all. How many big name devs have told their potential players not to buy their game because they needed to work on it? Only time that comes to mind was when cyberpunk was taken off of the playstation store (and maybe the steam/xbox store but I'm not sure.)
I'm not saying helldivers doesn't have the same issues but I feel like they're not doing bad considering the differences in manpower. Not to mention they probably expected around the same number of players thay hd1 had and got around 100x that, which they weren't prepared for and couldn't handle at first.
In the west, most definitely. Eldenring expansion will be lit and well worth the money, I hope it stays that way. Games where the management are gamers will always be better than some economy driven pile of shit.
ArrowHead and Larian gave us hope again, while Ubi, Amazon and EA are trying to squeeze water from stone, shitting on the table, asking you to preorder and eat it with a smile in your smeared face.
Corporatists after sabotaging their own staff- "More 'A's means unlimited stock growth, right???"
Artists after pouring their soul into an unforgettable experience- "I just wanted to make something cool. Hope you like it."
That game has a Day1 DLC Mission. They cut it out of the base game to bundle it with 3 days early access and then charge you $40 for it. Absolutely disgusting. Ubisoft can go feck itself.
You know what you could get for $40 (or less)? **Helldivers 2**. Enshrouded. Pal World. Re4 Remake. Halo MCC. Monster Hunter Rise or World. Witcher 3. Dark Souls 1 or 2. Last Epoch. ETC. There are *thousands* of games on Steam for $40 or less and at least *hundreds* of them are good games.
I'm pretty sure Fromsoft could shop around if they really wanted to. Dark Souls pretty much upended the gaming landscape and spawned an entire new genre by itself.
I wish project aces would actually make games though. The time between acecombat 6 and 7 was way too fucking long, and there is still no official announcement for 8
What something is called now is less an indication of quality and more a marketing term.
At most, it tells you the budget and man power thrown at it. But again, not quality.
It's like the terms "military grade", "gamer", or "survival/tactical". They are all basically meaningless in the terms of what it actually is.
It's an anti-marketing term. If the selling point is just some moniker that gives it assumed value (ie, AAA), you know the game has nothing else worthwhile for them to promote.
Genuinely, I have no clue what Skull and Bones is about other than Ubisoft self-describing it as AAAA. Is it fun? Any unique mechanics? Interesting story? No clue. But it's AAAA, and that's all that matters
CDprojekt red is also claiming the AAAA title for their next game… it doesn’t give me any confidence the game will be good, currently AAAA is synonymous with slop.
Because some corporate suit saw another game have one and it made all sorts of money, so he went to the managers of his development teams, and told them to add it because it'll generate them all sorts of new avenues of consistent revenue streams... or whatever corporate wordvomit they spew at each other to say it'll let them squeeze even more money out of people to give to their shareholders.
In theory season pass is pretty good: you can get future DLCs cheaper this way (usually). If you like the game and will for sure buy DLCs when they release those in the future, thats not a bad deal at all.
In practice, nowadays you cant be sure devs wont straight up **cancel** all DLCs making season pass just a scam.
Depends on the track record of the company and the genre of the game.
I'm pretty comfortable buying Season Passes for Fighting Games because I'm going to need those characters anyway. I avoid pretty much any other monetization in them though.
Remnant II is another game I happily shelled out for the Season Pass for. I loved From the Ashes and II ended up being even better
Season Passes *used* to be a good way to just buy all dlc for like $5 off. Now, theyre almost worse than pre-ordering bc youre possibly paying for something thats not even in dev and then they can cobble some bs together to say you got what you paid for.
Paradox is the worst at this. One banger mixed in with a bunch of absolute garbage tier slop to expire the pass before they are allowed to put effort in again
Sometimes they're basically just a bundle of DLCs. For example, Farming Simulator 19 had a great season pass, because I could get $100 worth of DLCs for about $15-20, and I got it after everything was released at the end of the game's life cycle.
Surviving Mars was the same, the season pass was just a bundle of all the DLCs for a fraction of the price.
People were making fun of cyberpunk being 50% off like a year after launch, while virtually every ubi game is 50% off half year after launch since. That's probably the only reason I still buy some of them, they are cheap - and they always had *something* fun in them.
This is not new, it's for future DLC releases it's not like a battle pass.
The Witcher 3 had an expansion pass at launch which got you cheaper access to the two major expansions when it launched, not saying it will be comparable in quality/content but it's not a NEW thing and it's certainly not bad if those want to take the risk of buying up front to save money.
Holy shit. For that price you used to get physical collectors pieces. Now you get day one DLC and a “digital” art book. You don’t even get a real one lmao.
the "disaster" that was one off, if not, the biggest redemption in video game history?
now what was the release of skull & bones like? I do think CDPR is very much in the position to mock ubisoft for marketing *that* as "AAAA"
Biggest redemption? Half of what was promised has been indefinitely scrapped lmao.
Yes it's a great game now, but they completely over-hyped it pre-launch for no reason other than greed.
I love that we now defend developers lying to the customers to make money because after three years the game is kinda like what they promised, even though they abandoned half the platforms they launched the game on. But yeah. Go CDPR for lying and hiding information so people would buy their game because they didn’t know how broken it was. They kinda fixed it though so they’re the good guys.
One off? Witcher 3 came out unplayable too. People tend to forget those kind of things apparently. They fixed it, people bought it, loved it, CDPR did the same thing but worse with Cyberpunk.
So no, it is not one off, it is their MO.
Unplayable? No that's a bit exaggerated.
It launched with all content in place (something cp2077 didn't)
It had SOME bugs at launch but it was perfectly playable to great success, I know because I had it on launch and encountered a handful of non game breaking bugs which were patched later, nothing that came close to unplayable!
This experience was the same for many people so it's not like I'm the odd one out.
These sorts of pricing schemes are always an excellent way to know to stay far away. It is how you know that the publisher has thought long and hard about how important it is to give the "consumer" multiple options, all of which end with giving them more money for some cheap knick-knacks that they try to hype up with every trick in the book. If they're doing that, they've also thought of other ways to manipulate you.
Helldivers is so good with its gameplay loop and monetization that I’ve put it upon myself to spend irl dough for each battlepass that comes out for now till i stop playing, now this is with me with super credits enough to buy 4 passes already, its my small way of showing appreciation of the devs and game.
Agreed. I'm planning on pirating that game because Ubisoft doesn't deserve my money and I'll spend the money that I was going to spend on that game on helldivers because they deserve it
This game has Denuvo so you are looking at ~year/two becasue game is gonna flop so cracking scene won't take interest in that before Denuvo is removed.
Ubisoft calling any title they've ever made AAAA is the height of comedy and/or blatant lying for marketing. All they've done is make GTA III rip offs for years in different skins.
Terrible company tbh.
It normally gives you multiple pieces of DLC that comes out at a small discount. The danger is the game could be shit, the DLC could be shit. Or both. And a lot of times companies pull a shitty bait and switch where you only get DLC from the first season free, but have to buy a second season pass for round 2.
That's what I always try to tell to people, don't get on board the hype train. Don't pre-order. Look at Dragons Dogma and Rise of the Ronin, an immense hype on the internet, and I think a month hasn't passed, and the hype is totally gone. It also happened with Skull and Bones, and it's going to happen with this game.
Tbh after helldivers 2. I can't bring myself to pay more than $50 for a game. Can you believe I was about to buy Dragons Dogma? I don't wanna shit on future great games but if you ain't giving me the type of fun Helldivers 2 is giving me, then sorry but I can wait a year or two till your shitty game goes for $10.
You see, what Destiny 2 is doing? What is MW about? Nah, AAA is dying of greed, and while I do have my complaints about Helldivers 2, it is never about how bad the game is or how greedy AH are. It is about how I want things in it to make it even more fun and help me convince others to play it.
I got a gallery of old games that I can replay or finish if I ever get tired of spreading managed democracy. But I think this is good, people are going to start to actually look at content in games before blindly tossing money at promises and fake news.
Base game is 70 bucks? I would SORT OF almost understand that with a live service game, but a single player game? And all of the other editions are more than 40 bucks extra? Ubisoft is gonna kill gaming, arent they?
Excuse me, are you just looking up the digital art that I paid for? That's it, buddy. I'm calling the cops. This is on par to when someone else posted my NFT
And this will be why I'll be picking up some credits on payday. Got to vote with my wallet.
The Ubisoft game will be on sale 66% off within 3 months too..
It’s actually disgusting seeing those prices, I’m a diehard Star Wars fan and I couldn’t get myself to buy Jedi survivor because of the price, and I guess now I’m skipping out on Outlaws. AH really has set a new standard for me and I appreciate all they’ve done with helldivers so far
Star wars is a brand in Rapid decline.
I for one love seeing this because it just means that there will be a time in my life that the star wars brand will be so worthless that it has a chance of being sold off to a brand house that is going to provide the care and love the universe needs
If I beat and finish that Star Wars game in less than a month, that ultimate edition for 17.99 for that month looks pretty nice since I don’t intend on keeping it any longer after I beat
But then you give them the statistics to show that the subscription service is a profitable business model, then it gets worse.
Personally, I will never buy anything from Ubisoft or certain other companies ever again, especially on Steam if they have their own launchers.
You know I'm not outraged at this, I just don't care, I'm not going to buy this trash, honestly I'm not even going to bother to torrent this trash, I haven't purchased a Ubisoft game since Farcry 3. If consumers are going to actually spend $129 buying the full version of a gutted $70 game, then that's on them, I'm tired of making excuses for these companies business practices, if they're going to release this pricing structure and this dogshit onto the consumer, and the consumer STILL DECIDES WITH THEIR OWN FREE WILL TO PURCHASE AND SUPPORT THIS, then that's on them, the average consumer is just dumb as bricks.
People arent voting enough with their wallets(I mean they probably are but in the wrong way!). Companies keep pumping these money high way robbery tactics/prices because idiots keep throwing money at them.
Stop throwing money at them, make their sponsors and stocks investors become concern when money isnt being made and theyll have to change things.
Youd think we'd learn from D4.....
Helldivers has warbonds and premium currency too. Just like how it's optional purchases. The higher tier editions of star wars are also optional purchases. I don't think there's any difference . You are just jumping on the hate bandwagon. Whatever makes you sleep at night
Whats funny is my partner commented on me playing this game too much, he was like "You've played that game more than any game I've seen you play...and you've played Diablo 4 a lot".
Which I said that HD2 was better than D4 becuase I actually feel rewarded for doing things and I feel powerful...plus I have two friends who play it now, plus more from a separate group who also play.
Didn't have that in D4....
It’s crazy how much money Helldivers is saving me, by making me not buy any other games anymore.
Same - its sad but true.
Sad? It’s fun as hell to squash your spongy bodies even better when i melt u :) https://i.redd.it/mo1advy4tstc1.gif
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For now. Once Erdtree drops, lots of us are going to temporarily hang up our capes to go die over and over again in different ways.
I know a lot of players that came over from Destiny 2 since The Final Shape was delayed til June. I'm certain there will be a temporary drop off from Helldivers when that comes out
And since d2 is on a steady decline of quality
I was about to start New Game+ in Elden Ring 2 months ago but then Helldivers 2 came out....
I'm scared though. No rest for the wicked is coming out shortly
I fell off of the AAA treadmill years ago and it's been so refreshing. I watch people get all worked up over these games followed by disappointment. Meanwhile I have a few core games I get a disgusting amount of replay out of like Factorio and then get the joy of discovering an utterly beautiful gem like this, Balatro or, years ago,Deep Rock Galactic when it was new. I save so much money and it's so chill being off of the mainstream hype roller coaster.
Yeah, I still have some big franchises I like and play like the Division but most of my gaming time is spent on indy titles like DRG, Mount & Blade, Elite Dangerous, Valheim etc...these games tend to be more innovative, cheaper and with a more active and responsive dev team (ok maybe not Elite) I like the look of SW Outlaws but that price and they're already shoving season passes down our throats...I quite like Ubisoft games but it already feels like a milking machine.
I legit threw another 20 bucks at Arrowhead just cuz of that. I've spent more time defending Super Earth, than I have on any recent AAA title. I didn't even need to. I still had the 1k super credits saved up for the next bond. But I *gotta* support democracy, and every dollar spent is like a vote. A vote for reasonable pricing , and fantastic gaming.
Yes same thing here. I paid an additional 10€ to buy a full rotation of armor that I really liked. I just did reach 100 hours with this game and I'm far from done with it. Instead of buying another game I just invest a bit in this one and it feels fair.
Coming off the high of bg3 as a fan of the original I was afraid to return to the sea of mediocre games but holy shit did this fucking game came out of nowhere to me and I’m glad I don’t have to play shit games again yet. I’ve maxed almost everything and I still can’t put this game down.
Mate, exactly the same with me. I was so worried BG3 would ruin other games for me.
Turns out we just needed more games made with love.
Same. And now a few months later, my four favorite games are BG3, Ghostrunner 1/2, and Helldivers 2.
After not playing video games for a while, I went from BG3 to Armored Core 6, and now this. A string of great games that I couldn't put down (and play multiple times).
The time it takes to earn things makes it actually feel like a reward I’m putting in time and effort and getting payed, it’s like working another job, except I get to travel for this job and see exotic new places and creatures o7
I won't lie, I went back and bought Halo and Reach while it's on sale, I know at some point I'll want to go back through the stories...BUT NOT ANYTIME SOON BECAUSE THERE IS A WAR TO WIN AND CHEEK---er, DEMOCRACY TO SPREAD!
With Helldivers, Balatro and Against the Storm claiming all my game time this is a so damn good year for games that I don’t even care for a Star Wars title. Plus I still hate Ubi for what they did to the settlers and these price tags in no way will be justified in content unless it’s GTA6 level.
I would say this is true for me as well, but I collect 40k. My wallet is crying. Please help.
Thats why I gladly and voluntarily donated another 20 bucks to arrowhead through the ingame store.
God damn genius. You scientists are definitely worth the rescue missions. Keep up the good work, super earth needs you 🫡
Thank you, Diver. I really appreciate you coming here to rescue me, I can’t wait to come home and- Is that a fire tornado?
Id buy a game. I'd buy helldivers VR. I recently upgraded to the quest 3. And only thing I can think of iss Helldivers but in VR
Forbidden West officially renamed to Forgotten West.
Oh man, bad timing (as usual for the franchise). FW was a great game, but I can understand because I’ve gotten sucked so much into this one I’m not playing anything else either. But you should get around to it.
I really wanna like it so I re downloaded But it was just so grind-y. Hopefully this time I can fall in love like the few times it took me with Witcher 3
It’s nice how refreshing Helldivers has been. Sure it’s still monetised but even that’s nowhere near the level of the shit most companies pull off. Plus the games just fun in general.
And remember, you can farm supercredits playing the game, and you can get 1000 supercredits in exchange for medals in the base warbond, and 600 more if you have the other two premium warbonds.
I give 0 fucks about being able to earn premium currency/price of premium currency. The real star of the show is the lack of bullshit timed battlepasses, fomo miss out on it play 400 hrs to unlock a tayler swift helldiver fuckshit bullfuckery. It’s like they expect you to play the game because… it’s fun to play the game. Instead of to fill out some fucking hogshit bullfuckery battlepass or limited edition fuckery. Thank god
Also how cheap everything is. I had 4 dollars on my psn account and bought some super credits. Bought the warbond cause i was missing like 200 and now i bought 2 helmets and an armor, is just crazy
I think devs fail to realize that if you make a fun game and it feels rewarding to play, then people will be happy to spend money on it for more fun. Instead, they make an unfun game, beat you over the head with micro transactions, and add monotonous grinding to it and are surprised when the game doesn't do well.
I think the word you're looking for is 'chicanery'
Helldivers launched as a mid tier game in terms of cost. I'll be happy to throw them a couple of bucks for super credits. A warbond is worth 2 to 3 Starbucks drinks? I'd do it.
What I love about Helldivers 2 is that they have kept microtransactions _micro_ And also you can fairly quickly get some SC from the game. So it’s not predatory either. And because it feels to me as they are acting im good faith, I have no reason not to throw 5€ for the next warbond. Nowadays that‘s not even a HALF a meal at most fast food places!
Dude, I used to work at Walmart and ate at the in-store Subway all the time because a girl I was flirting with was there. It was like $13 for a full meal and good company. I just went to a different location now two years later and it was $20 for a midtier sub meal. What the actual fuck
I’d say a warbond costs as much as a Starbucks order, but is worth far more. I’d use italics but I don’t know how lol
And also if someone has a weapon, when they die you can pick up their weapons to try
I did the math - based on the two existing premium warbonds, you only need 24 days at 30 SCs/day to be able to unlock each warbond for free. This is because the two existing premium warbonds have 3 100 SC medal buys. So you only need to earn 700 SCs/month.
And even then, its not like you would have to get 700 EVERY month, warbonds dont expire. You can get fewer one month, and more the next one. You can even not played for a month and still catch up later without missing out on anything. Awesome system.
30 SC/day is pretty easy, when you can jump in a Trivial mission and get 50+ in a few minutes.
Add in the first free warbond that has like 500sc available thru that
Yeah, but that's going to run out eventually. But you're right, your first premium warbond could be as little as 500 SCs to attain.
you can farm SC in trivial difficulty. was trying out new weapons and ended up getting 30 SC in one run. next run i only got 10 SC. playing normally with randoms or friends in higher difficulty you wont notice SC increases by a lot since you are enjoying the game.
There are also ways to specifically grind the premium currency to save more time. Helldivers II is legendary.
You pay good money on good food and restaurants as well. If it’s good, the 10 bucks every now and then is well deserved.
$129? Are you Canadian or Australian or is that USD because that’s fucking absurd. It’s amazing how cheap this game compared to the endless stream of abysmal slop we get from companies that are supposed to be the gold standard.
That's US dollars, my friend.
I threw up
Either UBISOFT are braindead or they think SW fans are braindead to assume someone will actually buy it at full price https://preview.redd.it/sp7wkevk2ttc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=edce301c59b0e0d2fc82526da416908d37940a51
Man i'm sorry to tell you but there are people that have absolutely no self-control.
it\`s ubisoft, they haven\`t done a great game in while, except metroidvania price of persia. Who would trust them?
They don't want that, have a look at the picture. They have been toying with the idea of subscription based model and 'getting users confortable with not owning games' for a while now. After all the shit they got with that comment, this is their pittiful attempt to make people subscribe - putting an almost 150$ version next to the '18 $ per month with all the stuff'. I'll put my hand on fire, we are a few years away from Ubisoft trying to make a 'subscription exclusive' game and all the other smooth brain executives to follow.
>we are a few years away from Ubisoft trying to make a 'subscription exclusive' game I will be genuinely surprised if Ubisoft still exists in a couple years. They gotta get comfortable with people not buying their games.
To be honest, I'm a huge Star Wars fan and this game has gotten nothing but a solid meh from me. The whole story and main character look super cliche and low effort. I don't even know if I'll bother with buying it once it's on sale in a few months.
Dear Ubisoft, CONGRATULATIONS! A donation of 1,000 Super Credits has been made to Arrowhead in your name!
If I see anyone I know buying it, I'm disowning them.
Two hundred and twenty ($220) kiwi-dollars! https://www.xbox.com/en-NZ/games/store/star-wars-outlaws-ultimate-edition/9PK76BBP3H0D/0017 For comparative purposes, a McDonald's Big Mac is $9.60 - that's a single, non-bundled burger (or "sandwich" in some places i believe).
Appreciate the conversion into units of Big Mac
As an American I don't think I would've understood without converting to Big Macs
I would rather 22 big macs....
Literally enough food to last you a week, better than some overpriced cash grab
>cost in terms of big macs Finally, a unit of measurement I can understand.
And from what we've seen the game doesn't even look that interesting to me. The line about her being "more connected than Han Solo" or whatever that was in the trailer was particularly off-putting. Cant she just be a badass on her own without having to be described as being better than a fan favorite character?
The people that make these big games, movies, tv shows etc are hired on with no experience in established franchises purely to nod their head and push out absolute slop. It's Ubisoft so the game will be good for 5-10 hours and then the paint comes off
I like your phrasing re: paint coming off. 100% accurate
Ubisoft giving their games the landlord special
Haven't seen anything about this game, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is just AC with lasers & a swamp-donkey main character.
No. The writers of these things have no ability to show that without tearing down and shitting on beloved characters with their lame self insert soulless cutout characters.
it's nearly 200 CAD if i'm right.
I could buy 3 copies of Helldivers 2 with the Super Citizen upgrade for that
Canadian its like over $200 for the highest tier and like 90+ for the basic one. Saw the price and laughed my as off. Ubisoft should be paying us that to play their shit games.
These days, AAA is synonymous with ‘slop’, quite frankly. A focus group tested, marketer approved, Franken-game that is to appeal to all demographics, but never connect too much with a core audience, as it could alienate a potential buyer. It’s a shame.
AAA studios are trying to make games for everyone (to maximize their market share) while AH knows where that gets you. Interestingly, in doing things different, they made a playset that includes a game for everyone.
exactly, they made a game they wanted to play, not one to appease others, as a result you get a kickass game
They made a playset that appeals to anyone who wants in on it. Hell Divers does not appeal to people who want to play survival games, or city builders, or JRPGs. The issue Ubisoft has is that they take something like Far Cry and say "How can we make this appeal to mid 40s mothers who don't want a high intensity experience"
>Hell Divers does not appeal to people who want to play survival games, or city builders, or JRPGs I'm a 40+yo gamer, big fan of 4X turn-based games (since the first civilization), big fan of turn-based tactical games (since X-COM and History Lines, and I guess on the board chess too xD + later on Final Fantasy Tactics), fan of RPG (since Bard's Tales and Might and Magic) or JRPG-like (obvious Zelda, Secret of Mana, first iterations of FF before playstation). Though I won't deny I had some moderate fun with titles like MDK, Doom, Quake Duke Nukem and Half-Life/CS in the 90s/early 00s, 1st person or 3rd person over the head/shoulder shooters were never my cup of tea, And yet, Helldivers 2 is my cup of liber-tea. I guess it is because HD2 makes me believe i'm back in time, sitting on the couch or on the deskchair (or in the arcade game center), gamepad/joystick in hands with my little brother as player2, both of us teamplaying beat'em up/shoot'em up/slash'em up kind of games. The good old days and coop pve games of my youth and teenage, Gauntlet (and yes we also played the arrowhead more recent version too :P), Gryzor/Contra/Probotector, Double Dragon, Golden Axe, Final Fight, Fatal Fury, Battletoads, etc. Helldivers2 as the exact same feeling of dumb fun together. Only difference is my brother is not high pitch yelling directly in my ears anymore, but now deep low pitch indirectly through my headphones and Discord.
AH's website says "a game for everyone is a game for no one" for a reason
"A game for everyone is a game for no one"
Don't forget unfinished on release with horrible, often game breaking bugs and glitches. But don't worry, the in game store that gets constantly thrown in your face will be buttery smooth and work perfectly. I really hate what too many 'AAA' game devs do now, launch a game in a broken state and patch it til it mostly works over the next year. Miss the days of games being finished on release... Ok, I'm done ranting.
I love this game but a lot of that rant absolutely applies to to Helldivers and still does. The games been getting band-aid fixes since launch and still has a bunch of issues that've been around for a while.
Thats true but at least arrowhead has been transparent about it all. How many big name devs have told their potential players not to buy their game because they needed to work on it? Only time that comes to mind was when cyberpunk was taken off of the playstation store (and maybe the steam/xbox store but I'm not sure.) I'm not saying helldivers doesn't have the same issues but I feel like they're not doing bad considering the differences in manpower. Not to mention they probably expected around the same number of players thay hd1 had and got around 100x that, which they weren't prepared for and couldn't handle at first.
AAA games never try anything new either. they have too much at stake.
In the west, most definitely. Eldenring expansion will be lit and well worth the money, I hope it stays that way. Games where the management are gamers will always be better than some economy driven pile of shit.
ArrowHead and Larian gave us hope again, while Ubi, Amazon and EA are trying to squeeze water from stone, shitting on the table, asking you to preorder and eat it with a smile in your smeared face.
Corporatists after sabotaging their own staff- "More 'A's means unlimited stock growth, right???" Artists after pouring their soul into an unforgettable experience- "I just wanted to make something cool. Hope you like it."
That game has a Day1 DLC Mission. They cut it out of the base game to bundle it with 3 days early access and then charge you $40 for it. Absolutely disgusting. Ubisoft can go feck itself. You know what you could get for $40 (or less)? **Helldivers 2**. Enshrouded. Pal World. Re4 Remake. Halo MCC. Monster Hunter Rise or World. Witcher 3. Dark Souls 1 or 2. Last Epoch. ETC. There are *thousands* of games on Steam for $40 or less and at least *hundreds* of them are good games.
And fromsoftware, which isn’t an AAA studio in size and budget but makes good games
We're lucky bandai namco has tekken for their micro transaction hell and leaves from soft and project ace alone
I'm pretty sure Fromsoft could shop around if they really wanted to. Dark Souls pretty much upended the gaming landscape and spawned an entire new genre by itself.
I wish project aces would actually make games though. The time between acecombat 6 and 7 was way too fucking long, and there is still no official announcement for 8
Helldivers 2 literally has unobtainable preorder dlc
What something is called now is less an indication of quality and more a marketing term. At most, it tells you the budget and man power thrown at it. But again, not quality. It's like the terms "military grade", "gamer", or "survival/tactical". They are all basically meaningless in the terms of what it actually is.
It's an anti-marketing term. If the selling point is just some moniker that gives it assumed value (ie, AAA), you know the game has nothing else worthwhile for them to promote. Genuinely, I have no clue what Skull and Bones is about other than Ubisoft self-describing it as AAAA. Is it fun? Any unique mechanics? Interesting story? No clue. But it's AAAA, and that's all that matters
CDprojekt red is also claiming the AAAA title for their next game… it doesn’t give me any confidence the game will be good, currently AAAA is synonymous with slop.
I thought they did that to mock Ubisoft
After the launch of cyberpunk, I wouldn't be mocking anyone if I was cdpr
This games gonna flop I already feel it
Why does a Singleplayer game has a fucking season pass?
Because some corporate suit saw another game have one and it made all sorts of money, so he went to the managers of his development teams, and told them to add it because it'll generate them all sorts of new avenues of consistent revenue streams... or whatever corporate wordvomit they spew at each other to say it'll let them squeeze even more money out of people to give to their shareholders.
They appease to their investors more than to their customers
In theory season pass is pretty good: you can get future DLCs cheaper this way (usually). If you like the game and will for sure buy DLCs when they release those in the future, thats not a bad deal at all. In practice, nowadays you cant be sure devs wont straight up **cancel** all DLCs making season pass just a scam.
I only buy season passes afterward, when they're basically just bundles
Depends on the track record of the company and the genre of the game. I'm pretty comfortable buying Season Passes for Fighting Games because I'm going to need those characters anyway. I avoid pretty much any other monetization in them though. Remnant II is another game I happily shelled out for the Season Pass for. I loved From the Ashes and II ended up being even better
Season Passes *used* to be a good way to just buy all dlc for like $5 off. Now, theyre almost worse than pre-ordering bc youre possibly paying for something thats not even in dev and then they can cobble some bs together to say you got what you paid for.
Paradox is the worst at this. One banger mixed in with a bunch of absolute garbage tier slop to expire the pass before they are allowed to put effort in again
That's not even the worse part. It has Day 1 DLC. Yes, content that is already made for the game, launching locked behind an arbitrary paywall.
Sometimes they're basically just a bundle of DLCs. For example, Farming Simulator 19 had a great season pass, because I could get $100 worth of DLCs for about $15-20, and I got it after everything was released at the end of the game's life cycle. Surviving Mars was the same, the season pass was just a bundle of all the DLCs for a fraction of the price.
I saw the same thing when I played that awful AC Valhalla. I just don't get it.
I'm so glad I only bought Valhalla a few years after launch. Managed to snag the game + pass for less than 30 bucks iirc
People were making fun of cyberpunk being 50% off like a year after launch, while virtually every ubi game is 50% off half year after launch since. That's probably the only reason I still buy some of them, they are cheap - and they always had *something* fun in them.
It's for dlc, not a season pass like you're thinking
This is not new, it's for future DLC releases it's not like a battle pass. The Witcher 3 had an expansion pass at launch which got you cheaper access to the two major expansions when it launched, not saying it will be comparable in quality/content but it's not a NEW thing and it's certainly not bad if those want to take the risk of buying up front to save money.
Holy shit. For that price you used to get physical collectors pieces. Now you get day one DLC and a “digital” art book. You don’t even get a real one lmao.
I love CDPR for making fun of "AAAA" by saying theirs will be "AAAAA"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
After the disaster of Cyberpunk they're the last developers that should be mocking other companies.
the "disaster" that was one off, if not, the biggest redemption in video game history? now what was the release of skull & bones like? I do think CDPR is very much in the position to mock ubisoft for marketing *that* as "AAAA"
Biggest redemption story was No Man's Sky.
Also Final Fantasy 14. Both games had bigger redemptions than Cyberpunk 2077.
Oof. Now that's *the* redemption story, they relaunched it so good some morons like me don't even remember that there was the first launch lol.
Biggest redemption? Half of what was promised has been indefinitely scrapped lmao. Yes it's a great game now, but they completely over-hyped it pre-launch for no reason other than greed.
I love that we now defend developers lying to the customers to make money because after three years the game is kinda like what they promised, even though they abandoned half the platforms they launched the game on. But yeah. Go CDPR for lying and hiding information so people would buy their game because they didn’t know how broken it was. They kinda fixed it though so they’re the good guys.
One off? Witcher 3 came out unplayable too. People tend to forget those kind of things apparently. They fixed it, people bought it, loved it, CDPR did the same thing but worse with Cyberpunk. So no, it is not one off, it is their MO.
Unplayable? No that's a bit exaggerated. It launched with all content in place (something cp2077 didn't) It had SOME bugs at launch but it was perfectly playable to great success, I know because I had it on launch and encountered a handful of non game breaking bugs which were patched later, nothing that came close to unplayable! This experience was the same for many people so it's not like I'm the odd one out.
These sorts of pricing schemes are always an excellent way to know to stay far away. It is how you know that the publisher has thought long and hard about how important it is to give the "consumer" multiple options, all of which end with giving them more money for some cheap knick-knacks that they try to hype up with every trick in the book. If they're doing that, they've also thought of other ways to manipulate you.
this picture is upsetting
Helldivers is so good with its gameplay loop and monetization that I’ve put it upon myself to spend irl dough for each battlepass that comes out for now till i stop playing, now this is with me with super credits enough to buy 4 passes already, its my small way of showing appreciation of the devs and game.
Agreed. I'm planning on pirating that game because Ubisoft doesn't deserve my money and I'll spend the money that I was going to spend on that game on helldivers because they deserve it
>I'm planning on pirating that game Who is gonna tell him guys?
He is gonna try skull and bones the game better than skull and bones could ever be?
Tell them what? I'm genuinely curious.
Denuvo games arent being cracked anymore.
This game has Denuvo so you are looking at ~year/two becasue game is gonna flop so cracking scene won't take interest in that before Denuvo is removed.
you can get it a year later anyway no need to rush. Its bug hell anyway
I bought the Super Citizen Edition, Totally worth it.
Ubisoft calling any title they've ever made AAAA is the height of comedy and/or blatant lying for marketing. All they've done is make GTA III rip offs for years in different skins. Terrible company tbh.
They should just go back to making those rayman rabbids party games, there won’t be another peak higher than those
What the hell is a season pass for? Is that not a single player game??
It normally gives you multiple pieces of DLC that comes out at a small discount. The danger is the game could be shit, the DLC could be shit. Or both. And a lot of times companies pull a shitty bait and switch where you only get DLC from the first season free, but have to buy a second season pass for round 2.
Vote with your wallet.
That's what I always try to tell to people, don't get on board the hype train. Don't pre-order. Look at Dragons Dogma and Rise of the Ronin, an immense hype on the internet, and I think a month hasn't passed, and the hype is totally gone. It also happened with Skull and Bones, and it's going to happen with this game.
Remember people. Use your wallet to send them a statement.
This just looks like an attempt to push people into the subscription plan.
Tbh after helldivers 2. I can't bring myself to pay more than $50 for a game. Can you believe I was about to buy Dragons Dogma? I don't wanna shit on future great games but if you ain't giving me the type of fun Helldivers 2 is giving me, then sorry but I can wait a year or two till your shitty game goes for $10. You see, what Destiny 2 is doing? What is MW about? Nah, AAA is dying of greed, and while I do have my complaints about Helldivers 2, it is never about how bad the game is or how greedy AH are. It is about how I want things in it to make it even more fun and help me convince others to play it. I got a gallery of old games that I can replay or finish if I ever get tired of spreading managed democracy. But I think this is good, people are going to start to actually look at content in games before blindly tossing money at promises and fake news.
Btw, waiting to buy Dragon's dogma is a good move imho. The first one was kinda broken and they re-released it shortly after.
Holy shit, fuck Ubisoft. Also fuck Blizzard, fuck EA and fuck the morons that support money grabbing pricks of their ilk.
Base game is 70 bucks? I would SORT OF almost understand that with a live service game, but a single player game? And all of the other editions are more than 40 bucks extra? Ubisoft is gonna kill gaming, arent they?
Digital art book, you mean GOOGLE IMAGES
Excuse me, are you just looking up the digital art that I paid for? That's it, buddy. I'm calling the cops. This is on par to when someone else posted my NFT
And this will be why I'll be picking up some credits on payday. Got to vote with my wallet. The Ubisoft game will be on sale 66% off within 3 months too..
*sees AA batteries* “aaah” *sees AAA batteries* “aaaahhh” *sees AAAA batteries* “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH”
Ubisoft is such a clown company
It’s actually disgusting seeing those prices, I’m a diehard Star Wars fan and I couldn’t get myself to buy Jedi survivor because of the price, and I guess now I’m skipping out on Outlaws. AH really has set a new standard for me and I appreciate all they’ve done with helldivers so far
I paid full price for Jedi Survivor. You made the smart choice. That game was awful on launch.
I got helldivers and a huge backlog. I can wait a year to consider getting the goty version when it's on sale.
More like 2 months :D
Star wars is a brand in Rapid decline. I for one love seeing this because it just means that there will be a time in my life that the star wars brand will be so worthless that it has a chance of being sold off to a brand house that is going to provide the care and love the universe needs
Star Wars has already been so oversaturated almost to a Marvel level. Itd need a huge transformation to take it seriously again
I'm a recovering Destiny addict and I am proud to announce I am 4 months clean and will **not** be buying the last DLC
$130 dollars you say? Well, what a coincidence that I have these other games I already own to play.
Arrowhead is AAAAA change my mind
I'm starting to associate the term Triple A with over rendered bullshit now. Sure looks pretty though.
Nah, it doesn't which is kinda hilarious. Side characters in helldivers 2 have less uncanny looking faces than shit in this ubi scam.
Actually, looking at the trailer, it kinda looks a bit dated. And the animation transitions are not always smooth.
If I beat and finish that Star Wars game in less than a month, that ultimate edition for 17.99 for that month looks pretty nice since I don’t intend on keeping it any longer after I beat
But then you give them the statistics to show that the subscription service is a profitable business model, then it gets worse. Personally, I will never buy anything from Ubisoft or certain other companies ever again, especially on Steam if they have their own launchers.
Better yet, just wait. Don't buy it until it goes on sale. And I suspect it will getting drastically discounted rather rapidly.
You can throw as many wads of cash you want at a tsunami, ain't stopping shit.
$216 a year for a single game subscription is wild
I thought its a single player game What is the Season Pass for.
Agreed. Wish I found helldivers much sooner than I did is all
It's a clear sign of "we have no faith this'll last more than a month, gotta squeeze as much money as we can, try and recoup our loses."
I am sure as hell gonna enjoy this game, it's Star Wars after all. but since it's a Ubisoft game I'll wait for that deep deep sale
You know I'm not outraged at this, I just don't care, I'm not going to buy this trash, honestly I'm not even going to bother to torrent this trash, I haven't purchased a Ubisoft game since Farcry 3. If consumers are going to actually spend $129 buying the full version of a gutted $70 game, then that's on them, I'm tired of making excuses for these companies business practices, if they're going to release this pricing structure and this dogshit onto the consumer, and the consumer STILL DECIDES WITH THEIR OWN FREE WILL TO PURCHASE AND SUPPORT THIS, then that's on them, the average consumer is just dumb as bricks.
If I learned anything from Jedi: Survivor- it’s to never pre order a Star Wars game. Thank god for Arrowhead
As if EA didnt fuck Star Wars enough already.
Can't believe we're entering the era where looking back on the EA games is going to be fond memories and better times for some people.
I bought Helldivers 2 for myself and for 3 friends of mine just to support the development
People arent voting enough with their wallets(I mean they probably are but in the wrong way!). Companies keep pumping these money high way robbery tactics/prices because idiots keep throwing money at them. Stop throwing money at them, make their sponsors and stocks investors become concern when money isnt being made and theyll have to change things. Youd think we'd learn from D4.....
Helldivers has warbonds and premium currency too. Just like how it's optional purchases. The higher tier editions of star wars are also optional purchases. I don't think there's any difference . You are just jumping on the hate bandwagon. Whatever makes you sleep at night
When did it became the norm for games costing 70$ for the base game? Is this the "infinite growth" for shareholders?
70 fucking dollars for an “open galaxy” game with no customization? You’ve gotta be kidding me
Im gonna pirate the shit out of that game haha
Whats funny is my partner commented on me playing this game too much, he was like "You've played that game more than any game I've seen you play...and you've played Diablo 4 a lot". Which I said that HD2 was better than D4 becuase I actually feel rewarded for doing things and I feel powerful...plus I have two friends who play it now, plus more from a separate group who also play. Didn't have that in D4....
i am a big star wars nerd but 100+ is not going to happen.