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Z-e-n-o

I've had it with the devs making impossible major orders smh. How does anyone expect us to do this?


Delicious-Belt8362

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach


AadamAtomic

Xbox game pass does the same thing on PC. If you're being toxic and racist in chat, PSN can't ban your Steam account, only IP bans which won't work with VPNs. This is why Xbox makes you have an account to play any of their Xbox Game pass games also, So they can ban your account and force you to use a new email and make a new account.


Hatarus547

If they gave me a cape i would have done it to begin with


Red_Dog1880

That would absolutely work tbf


Caridor

Honestly, yeah. I kinda want Sony to give me something in return for my data. I don't like risks with no reward. It should be a fair exchange.


No-Description-3130

I mean fuck sony as their security is shit> But conversely they are welcome to the bullshit burner PSN account i created with fake info


Caridor

I'm a little wary of doing that. What if I need to recover it someday for some reason? A burner email might mean I'm locked out for good.


Zekeisdumb

I recommend just making a “fake account” email, that you just use for multiple things you dont trust with your main email but you do keep the email around


b00tyw4rrior420

Outlook allows you to create aliases that are tied to your actual email for this exact purpose. I think they let you use up to 10.


Ok_Support9876

So does gmail


Ok_Support9876

AI Answer Learn more … The Gmail + trick, or plus addressing, allows users to create unique email addresses that still receive mail in an existing account. To do this, add a "+" symbol and any word or combination of characters after the username and before the "@" symbol. For example, if your email address is [email protected], you can use [email protected], [email protected], or [email protected].


achilleasa

Don't do this, it's trivial to extract the original email from them.


b00tyw4rrior420

The gmail method, sure, but Outlook you can have something that's completely different.


AnonymousCharmander

Thank you!


Iseenoghosts

this seems pointless since its trivial to get the real email?


omfgkevin

aight Ima go make my Xx1Zekeisdumb1xX@ gmail.com right now, thanks bro.


brandaohimeffinself

whats the point?


irishguy42069

Once made an account with a "temp" email address and had to call Sony Girl on the phone basically said, you shouldn't make accounts with "@sharklazer.com" email address? And sent me a password reset to another email address 😂😂 Sony security isn't shit, it just doesn't exist


JJBrazman

For the record, if you use gmail you can put a plus sign in your email address to make new burners. Anything after the plus is ignored by gmail. For example if your address is [email protected] you can direct mail to [email protected] The mail comes to your regular account but you can see which address it was sent to (and block it if necessary).


No-Description-3130

why you'd still have access to the burner email?


Caridor

I'd probably forget it.


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No-Description-3130

I'm willing to roll the dice on it


Rakuall

It's linked to your steam account. Everything steam knows, Sony will know.


No-Description-3130

Yeah I was going for lols, mostly the burner account is the chungusmcchungus@gmail I use for all these signups to cut down on spam


Purepenny

There are no risk. It’s 100% data selling and breach. They still have yet to figure out what cause the 77 millions users data leak from October 2023. 😆


FurryJacklyn

Yeah I gotta get something in return other than an otherwise useless account for me, why the hell else did I give them an address


Nartyn

>I kinda want Sony to give me something in return for my data They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA


Juhovah

The reward is not being banned from the network


[deleted]

So true, it's about time we get something for OUR data


SteveoberlordEU

Like the blue preorder armor from playstation


Revoran

$3000 super credits, maybe.


Tango-Turtle

NO. That is not enough. I paid real life, hard earned money for this and they will be getting real life money from OUR data. They need to refund the players and be fucking happy if we actually stay and continue playing the game.


Cullie39

Ah yes, 45 warbound medals in exchange for your personal data sent straight to Sony! Brilliant idea!


Caridor

Not saying it's worth it, but I'd like something for my inconvenience and risk.


Cullie39

I get your point and totally agree that players who link a PSN should get some sort of compensation. For me, no amount of reward or exchange will convince me to (again) send my data over to Sony ESPECIALLY when I’ve never had a PSN account before. I bought a game from steam, not Sony.


Chemo1235-

It's for crossplay you can't use it without doing this and what info? they ask for an email a name and that's it nobody said you had to use your credit card or anything important lol people are tripping for no reason lmao


Caridor

I've seen other report otherwise, but why does that benefit me as a PC user? Mouse provides greater accuracy and speed of aiming. Why do I want my team mates to be weaker? I don't mind carrying on occassion but I don't want to have to do it all the time.


ThePolishKnight

Like setting up 2 factor authentication on RDR2 for gold bars. Absolutely.


frogotme

Fortnite did a similar thing with an emote a few years ago. Super simple incentive for a great gain.


wtfdoiknow1987

Lmao. The biggest mistake they made was making the announcement outside of game/character


Fit-Grapefruit-9292

Why not a weapon or armor instead? Sweeten the deal.


ComfySeafarer710

![gif](giphy|LcfBYS8BKhCvK|downsized)


Broken-Digital-Clock

Especially right before a new warbond


pyrojackelope

I feel like the biggest problem with all of this is the fact that some people can't even create a psn account in their country. I'm pretty sure that if that wasn't an issue at all, the comments about all this would be a bit much. Hell, I think I had to link my psn account (or some other) to play the finals? I don't even pay extra, I just had to link an account.


SemajLu_The_crusader

yeah, PSN Isn't even available in over half of all countries, including Lithuania and Belarus as well as nearly all of africa


McDumbassDeluxe

My 'Laughs in PC' comment was ignorant and I apologize. Commence mocking of my name.


Demonprophecy

We all make mistakes ![gif](giphy|C1Fdach2R4HSg)


11448844

damn fat pikachu is pretty cute. always thought that was a cuter look than current style


Demonprophecy

I agree It's my favorite style Pikachu haha https://preview.redd.it/8tzhqcx277yc1.png?width=1731&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e91f8af0840c4b0f698ac4ea9fb3a3b338b06116


gkamyshev

Well, the username does check out


dumbaos

Hang on brother.


UtsuhoReiuji_Okuu

For some reason I can just play normally and I haven’t had to make an account


McDumbassDeluxe

You have until May 30 if you're a current player. After May 6, all new players need to link account to PSN.


UtsuhoReiuji_Okuu

Thanks.


TheRussianCabbage

All I'm saying is they should get back to their originally projected player numbers if they keep it up 


flying_wrenches

Back down to the 1st games player record of 6000?


CombustiblSquid

That would be a gaming tragedy... Fuck me sideways Sony.


jotair

![gif](giphy|10JhviFuU2gWD6|downsized)


HandyTSN

They already have the players money. Only a tiny percent will refund. Got bait and switched and from their perspective the people complaining are a minority and pathetic rubes to boot


ShareYourIdeaWithMe

Yeah but they will suffer a big dip in super credits purchases. Which is the entire business model around war bonds.


xilsage

This was a day 1 requirement, it’s nothing new. It was removed when they had server errors 2 weeks post launch. I bought my copy 10 days after release and was required to link my PSN in game before I could do anything. It has zero to do with arrowhead, they signed a deal with Sony as a small company and are required to follow the Sony guidelines.


Pugdalf

I bought the game like 3 days after launch or so, was confronted with the PSN account popup, but I could just skip it


DeerOnARoof

I did not get a prompt to sign in to a PSN account when I first bought the game.


Tempest-Melodys

Make it 200 and I'll do it


flying_wrenches

Major order: give Sony your personal info. Create PSN account. If in a country without PSN access. Uninstall as it’s mandatory.,


Squirrel009

Or just use a vpn for 3 minutes and be fine to keep playing with no problems


nampezdel

nProtect GameGuard is already balls deep in your data if you play on PC. But yeah, PSN data security is the real problem. 🤦🏻‍♂️


THEMaxPaine

Yeah people are acting like they are boycotting Google and shit like that's so 10 years ago.


[deleted]

Make a dummy account my dude...


flying_wrenches

Not everyone lives in the USA or Europe.


[deleted]

And you can choose any country when making a psn


flying_wrenches

And get banned bc it’s against the TOS..


[deleted]

My guy people have been doing this for literally over a decade and not getting banned for it lol


flying_wrenches

And people have gone 5 over the speed limit for years and not gotten pulled over…


[deleted]

Any thing to be outraged


Highway_Wooden

Ok but people have gone 5 over the speed limit and have gotten pulled over. People are not getting banned for creating accounts in different regions. Like Memory said, this has been done for a very long time. This is how people get Japanese only games in the US, by creating a Japanese PSN account. Sony doesn't give any fucks.


marv257

They don't give a fuck, because it makes them money. Should you ever have an issue with your account, they straight up just ignore you, because you can't prove the correct country of your account. They then don't give a fuck, because they already have your money or money they made from your data.


nixcomments

Fuck this. Guess my medal earning career is coming to an end.


Allaroundlost

May 30th is Refund Day on Super Earth !!!!!!!!!!!


[deleted]

Yup, when they cut our access to the game just refund with steam


notTzeentch01

Go over well or this doesn’t bode well lol, bode over is just goofy.


SparseGhostC2C

That boy be mixin' his idioms!


Virtual99

Duly noted


ForAHamburgerToday

*thank you*


Obvious_Ad4159

EU customer protection laws finna clutch a 1v1 against Sony.


Dwenker

Time is barely enough to do it


validname117

Old players will not be required to link up until May 30, and linking is not absolute mandatory until early June


[deleted]

And when they cut my access for not linking psn account I will refund it, thanks for the good tines I'll take my money back


Diaza_Kinutz

Ah right in time for me to quit Helldivers for Elden Ring DLC


El-Senor-Q

Give a PC exclusive cape, 500 orange samples, and 500 super credits for linking to PlayStation and all this goes away overnight. It’s a decision that benefits corporate and not the player, so reward the player.


DeepUser-5242

Hmm... make it 1k SC (unlock a warbond) and you've got a deal!


CigarsAndFastCars

I vote that everyone make accounts with this name and a number on the end, "SUCKYOUFONY1" and so on, with a made-up address on Super Earth. West 500 Kg St, Middlefingerton, AL 35242


Soknatcher

Just shitty AAA companies doing shitty AAA things


Another_Road

You already downloaded a kernel root kit to play this game on PC. I don’t see how making a PSN account is so much worse.


0235

Anyone anywhere in the world can download a rootkit to their computer if they wish. Only 1/3 of the world can sign up for PSN.


Rakuall

>You already downloaded a kernel root kit to play this game on PC. I don’t see how making a PSN account is so much worse. It's more who this second account is tied to. Sony's track record with data breeches is truly alarming. Exactly - I have kernel BS for this game, you think I'm going to trust *Sony* with it?


Compizfox

Not on Linux, lol


Allianser

Kernel root kit, in my Fedora Linux? No way!


TheBlack2007

Create a one-off E-Mail Account for it, log into it once to verify the account, link it to your Steam Account and then forget about it.


Mercurionio

2/3 of the world don't have psn. They have to choose a different region that will lock them to it. Cool feature, what can I say


KenjiZeroSan

Just to add on, if sony finds out that you fabricated your account details you are legible for termination as per ToS 3.1. It's easy to say they don't enforce this but who's to say they don't in 6 months or a year's time. This is a risk you have to take.


Attrexius

Or, for example, they'd have their servers hacked, and force everyone to restore their accounts, which would automatically fuck over anyone from these countries. Good thing such a debacle would never happen with a mighty corporation such as Sony!


xxEmkay

They sure have a plan for those countries... Right? .. right?


Selvionus

As someone who lives in a country where they used to not have PSN availability a few years ago, let me tell you....they don't care a bit


[deleted]

Then when sony catches them they ban the psn account.


Broad-Ask-475

You can change region in PSN settings


[deleted]

Then when sony catches you they ban your psn account, goodluck


ma_wee_wee_go

Then turn off data collection in settings


ExploerTM

How do you even link? I dont find anything anywhere on the actual process of it. Is it in Steam? In game? In Sony account?


TheBlack2007

Steam Account Settings.


ExploerTM

I think I am stupid, I cant find it anywhere


Caridor

Here's a bitter pill. Did you swallow it? Well, here's a second one. It's like being kicked in the nuts. You've been kicked in the nuts before, why are you upset if someone does it again?


ma_wee_wee_go

It's because they have access to all that oh *so precious personal data* this game holds such as..... .... something


TheRussianCabbage

It's another hoop that this game has degraded to make it not worth taking A foot off the ground never mind JUMPING through said hoop. Lost of people probably don't care and that's cool, ima be scrubbing my desktop to get all things Helldivers out. Quit adding shit, fix the problems. I haven't been able to finish a mission never mind the sequence in Damm near a month.


WolfVidya

nProtect is so ineffective I'll probably keep it around if I uninstall just to laugh at it. It's useless even as a gateway for elevation and RCE attacks.


Mikrukki

Make it 500 super credits and ill do it


Snaf_u_fanS

Hey not that it matters but just so you know there are two common phrases in english. "go over well" "bode well" I think u got them mixed haha.


Aeywen

Well this is a retired diver here sadly, im not making a PSN account.


Konsaki

Time to fail a Major Order!


Foreign-Original880

Snoy Playsation :D


mrureaper

Time to join the Automatons on this one ...


sherperion45

Uninstalled, was fun while it lasted


[deleted]

Just keep playing till the cut access then refund, steam will refund if they cut access


sherperion45

What do you mean cut access


Remnant_Echo

They won't allow you to play the game if you don't link the account if I understand correctly. I'm sure Steam will allow refunds if they start preventing you from playing the game solo as that would be a breach of Steam's ToS >The effects of the game ban are determined by the developer, and must be consistent with a VAC ban, such as being prevented from playing online with other players and/or trading items for that game. It cannot prevent the user from launching and playing the game offline. It cannot prevent the user from using Steam. I just want to note that I already have a PSN account for my PS5 so linking was a non-issue for me, but 2/3rds of the world doens't have PSN and it is against Sony's ToS to lie about your region during account creation.


sherperion45

I also have a PSN and used it before I eventually switched to consoles, but with a clear intention of Sony to claim people are on the PlayStation network by forcing their games on steam with compliance is absolutely hilarious, since we’ve already known pc helldivers out weigh console players. I just don’t see a point owning a console in this day and age. I would honestly go for the refund if anything as why should I have my data in a third party’s hands thats unrelated to the platform im using, and with the updates introducing more bugs and needing guns, yeah idk chief games getting stale Still, could be worse, could be tarkov


NN11ght

No linked PSN account = Unable to successfully play game.


leowtyx

Sad to see you go right before Illuminates drops. /s


sherperion45

That rumours been said since March and nothings came of it since data mined assets were shown they’re going to be in the gsme, and if the devs can straight pull a bait and switch with the automatons and quadruple their presence, don’t expect illuminate till end of summer at this point. There’s so many bugs now, while they introduced this ps bs which was expected even though pc players are 2:1 compared to consoles, and a new war bond while I have to cross my fingers extraction doesn’t give me a black screen, as of late, think I’m good


GodEatsPoop

My PSN account is so old I can't really read the password anymore


PenaltyOtherwise

and yet we have thousand of people defending this shit with whataboutism or downplaying it


DeepThoughtGalactic

https://preview.redd.it/b53voqkbc8yc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=cea958bb9dc8d116c960b0dce0aa5b9877282f15 how about no


DarthSet

![gif](giphy|q9HHyHPISNZD2)


PhilZhix

Wrong icon, Sony is an automaton


ChemicalBonus5853

Yeah gimme the medals…ñom ñom


HabenochWurstimAuto

That was my first thought when i read the news.


GolDrodgers1

😂😂😂😂


In2bition

Oh yeah 100%


AshleyGamics

Listen I like Sony, but this is fucking stupid.


fuzlle

Guess im failing another major order


hangryhiggs

🤣🤣 if only.


Professional-Bear942

Do I get a medal for each bit of data Sony sells? Or thats stolen with their security issues, I'd rather not expose my data to more breach possibility and no game, no matter how good is gonna change that.


susbee870304

I love how when I try to verify my email to make a PSN account it tells me it needs to be verified again immediately after I follow the instructions on the verification email. I've also tried making the account on different devices in different places in case of the wifi being weird but to no avail. Please help.


Ashenkiro

Since the game for everyone is game for no one, we refuse to pick solution that benefits everyone


Ok-Firefighter-8968

If it wasn't made mandatory and was simply a major order. They probably would be fine.


mk95k

Remove the reward then this would be legit cause there is no reward for this shit.


MrRed16

1000 super credits would be ok deal


too_lazy_cat

double attack surface for your safety


w1gster

Ok this is pretty funny


very_bad_programmer

"bode over well"


Specialist_Growth_49

Is that actually real? I already deleted the Game.


Specialist_Growth_49

Is that actually real? I already deleted the Game.


Mentat_-_Bashar

https://preview.redd.it/ncnvx3kzp9yc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b767518b59e9e72e01747348f32f19992f64014


fivewordsofwisdom

"Bode over well" is redundant 


SemajLu_The_crusader

45 medals? heck yeah Still rude, though, my Lithuanian Homies won't be able to play


Ched_R

I lol’d


Brob0t0

Ghost ship games still da goat!


IndependentAd8659

Guys, Gals and othered gendered ppl.. its time for a Boycott


Temporary_Ad_5073

If we’re taking bets, on how long until someone cracks their security. I would give it two weeks .


thunderkenku

Major Order failed


DivineCatBarsik

There is even no revard


Slave2Art

What? I dont think that word means what you think it do


AJZullu

might as well give 1 entire warbond for free and even then would need to consider it closely


Kakseao

https://preview.redd.it/a27gcotttcyc1.png?width=736&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab3c828ffa5c744d7d683554d331e2a11a9ee16b more accurate


PenaltyOtherwise

and yet we have thousand of people defending this shit with whataboutism or downplaying it


0235

Lmao. You mean bastard. Love it.


RickRate

easiest 45 medalls of my life


DrimSWE

Capped so that would be 0 medals. lol


JoeJoe4224

Make it 50 and you got a deal


SonsOfSithrak

Thanks for the laugh


cl0sedude

it should cost 250 medals


JonnyTN

![gif](giphy|h8a5bOiUmcGxkFn6fq|downsized)


Squirrel009

It's funny the amount of effort put into being upset about this grossly outweighs the effort of just signing up a dummy account on a vpn and then never having do anything with it again after those 3 minutes.


lK555l

Yea their security breaches don't mean much, there's a very high chance that your data is already leaked, too late to worry about it now


iEatBigPoop

I already leaked all my own data myself to get it over with


JumpingCoconut

That's not true at all and a very sad attitude to have. Also every new leak adds another attack vector for YOU. 


Calm-Internet-8983

Haveibeenpwned seems like it shows me every service I've ever signed up for anytime I check it out.


lK555l

It's called being realistic, with how much information we put out on all these different sites, 1 breach won't make a difference


nampezdel

Kernel-level anti cheat nProtect GameGuard is on your PC if you downloaded this game. Your data-virginity never stood a chance.


PM-me-Gophers

If you really believed that you would be happy to post your name, address, social security number, first pets name, mother's maiden name and pornhub frequent search terms.


Existing-Ad-7155

Woah, woah, about the last one...


lK555l

I could but aussies don't have SSNs


PM-me-Gophers

Alright - bank account details instead k thx hun


xilsage

They had 1 true leak in 2011, everything since then is like Sony pictures and stuff 😂


[deleted]

Refunding


nampezdel

![gif](giphy|2ept7eRuyq98s)


Saddest_Sloth

Playsation


Suspicious_Suit7873

A major order that takes 2 minutes and that was in the game’s terms since day one? Wow what easy task!


[deleted]

[удалено]


More_Tackle9491

The entitlement here is *insane*. Can you imagine being a kid in eastern Ukraine right now and stumbling across a bunch of neckbeards complaining about having to press a few buttons on their greasy keyboards? Make the account, stop being such a bitch. Or refund, no need to announce your departure.


Connect_Atmosphere80

Okay, I'm kinda pissed about all the whining on this subject but this post got me good, I cackled. Thanks OP.