Bruh EA isn't even in the REALM of evil that is fucking Take-Two/2K.
At least they have the decency to not fucking tie **SINGLEPLAYER MODES** to online like 2K does. Obligatory FUCK 2K, morally right to sail the high seas on their products.
More people should be mentioning Take-Two. They are top level scum.
Take Two's evils are much pettier. They primarily just fuck the players directly.
EA fucks the entire games industry by buying up promising developers, homogenizing them, and then killing them. We have lost more potential great games due to EA than any other company most likely.
nah see you got it wrong. EA was one of the OG's. These other guys they stand on the shoulders of giants. Theres a reason EA has been known for being shit for DECADES...
shit that makes me feel old now..
I think it's more of how constantly bungie has fumbled things rather than the severity.
But I have to agree with you.
And honestly this PSN account shit is nowhere near as bad as Tarkovs junkyard fire going on (may it burn to ash)
Facts. Bungie has at least proven they’ll listen to the player base. That’s more than you can be say about Ubi. EA and 2k will laugh in your face as they sell you the EXACT SAME GAME for $70 year after year.
I have to say seems a bit disingenuous to equate Bungie with BSG, Bungie didn't change their EULA on D2 secretly or change packages on the site as people complained.
Tbf, they did delete an entire game + dlc's worth of content that people like me paid for. They never advertised it as temporary, and if they had, I wouldn't have bought it
I gotta stick up for Bungie here. Sure, they have made plenty of bonehead moves. A lot of them they backtracked on, and their live service shooter has outlived every other competitor and is still going strong with a huge expansion on the horizon.
They aren’t perfect, far from it, but having a live service game thrive for over a decade is damn impressive. They must be doing something right lol.
Well you see it’s not DLC. IT’s downloadable content for the new edition. Totally not DLC.
Not to mention AH seems generally apologetic. Meanwhile Nikita be doubling down and not apologizing in anyway for trying to scam us out of a 100 bucks.
Locking out offline pve and then using the bUt nOt AlL dLc ArE dLc excuse was a real big brain moment for bsg. Like, for real, what kind of reaction were they expecting?
I assume you both never played anything from blizzard in the past 15 years or so.
this is standard practice at this point, i am at my fucking limit as well
yeah, OW1 was legit awesome
and i really liked heroes of the storm too, it is very easy to jump in unlike DOTA2 / LoL, its simple and still plays very well with all the god damn characters i used to love
its just too bad the game died
Yep, pure villainy how they killed that game and absurd how hard the OW2 fanbase will go to justify Blizzard's malfeasance and try to gaslight you into thinking that OW1 wasn't actually fun at all.
Side note for WC3. Get SC2 for free, go to arcade and then campaign section. Someone is redoing it in the SC2 engine and it runs amazing. Not all of it is available at this time though.
why do you think i am playing hd2? lol
D4 was the nail in the coffin for me, blizzard is officially in my ban list now, fuck them. I keep giving them chances and they repeatedly rape my trust.
It's insane... Pay and be able to call your buddies to reinforce you in raid! Pay, and be able to call in a fucking tank to kill people lol.
It'd be like if you could just pay $10 to drop a nuke in the match and automatically win.
But I like coming up with crazy ideas... How about this one...
You've just been killed. On the death screen you see a "Bounty" button. Clicking the button charges you 10$ and puts a bounty on the player that killed you. All NPCs on the map will have x-ray vision on your target and will prioritize finding and killing the them. Pay another $10 and you get to go back into the match as one of the scavs that is still alive. $50 and you get to play as one of the boss npcs.
Some shitty game company should hire me, I've got more ideas!
Can we just chill? It's like a month until it begins and a community manager already confirmed that they're awaiting a answer from Sony. It's pretty safe to assume that they won't just ban whole countries from playing just because they can't create a psn profile
> But for people who won't be able to play the game that they bought is pretty bad too.
People that will end up in this situation if they still want to play. Literally 0.
PSN isn't available in a lot of countries officially. You can still buy a Playstation in those countries. People from those countries have created PSN accounts by stating the neares eligible country for almost two decades. Is it against ToS? Sure. Does anyone care? Doesn't look like it.
Honestly though this is classic enshitification. I don’t think any good thing that can be touched by big corp won’t turn into trash sooner than later. Greed kills everything in the end it seems.
Nah don't worry, the Ai will be highly trained to be as inhumane and negligent to human mental health or anything along those lines. The only line that matters is the one that has to go up! Beep boop line must go up!!1!
A completely inhumane and self-interested, greed-driven AI would actually still be a more responsible shareholder. The reason human shareholders do shitty things like this is because they don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions, they can just sell their shares high before the value plummets due to their awful decision making. An AI whose entire existence is nothing but guaranteeing profit for *one* company would be incentivized to invest in the stability and long-term growth of that company.
An AI CEO is only going to do what we program it to do. What's REALLY going to happen is someone is going to develop an "AI CEO" and loan it out to companies to save money. THAT piece of AI will 100% be driven by short term profits. It won't be until that AI strip mines a thousand companies that anyone will start to think it's not a sustainable idea.
Man, I thought the ultimate evil corporate AI would be like the captain AI from WALL-E that transformed everyone on the ship into mindless consumers of whatever was put in front of them, but at least it kept them alive and happy along with a functioning generation ship. An AI CEO built by real world companies would so much worse.
I disagree. The impact to the game from creating a 3rd party account that was mentioned on the store page doesn't make the game worse.
It's worse for countries who literally can't create one. But the generally impact for the majority of gamers is zero.
And Sony should not have had it on the storefront there. Solutions:
Refund to anyone who purchased in an area incorrectly sold in regions they can't support due to psn. Halt sales there
Allow those that already purchased in those regions to continue without psn because they legally can't get one, halt future sells there.
Allow those without the ability to get legal psn accounts to just play and keep it for any region that has psn.
Anyone who complains about having to sign up for a psn account really doesn't have a leg when so many third party accounts exist already. And is the solution that solves everyone's issue.
Sony has the right to ask for psn login, they published the game and put a larger financial stake, and provide support.
Sony has decided that we now NEED a PSN account. Even if we play on Steam. Don't have one? Make one before June 4th or lose the ability to play the game.
Didn't need one before? Sucks to you. Don't want us having your personal information after we've shown we're incapable of protecting it from hackers and security breaches? Tough titties. Guess you'd better make that account so you don't lose the game you paid money for~!
Can't make one because you [don't live in one of these countries?](https://www.playstation.com/country-selector/index.html) Well, I guess you're triple fucked.
Steam page was THE ONLY thing tho. Not even their official website nor EULA mentioned this. Literally the only thing was that tiny sign on their steam store page, nowhere else.
And even still they specifically tell you that you don't need a PSN account on their official webpage. So... there's that
The idea that making players pay $250 for a feature that was promised during ea is even remotely similar to being asked to make a game account is really, truly, the definition of hyperbole.
I understand not liking the decision, but let's not pretend like this is anywhere near the same ballpark as the fuckery Tarkov is up to.
Unheard edition was a promise broken by BSG. This game has pretty clearly stated since release that it requires a 3rd party account, and it already did make you link an account if you actually played in the first week like so many claim to have done. And yeah, I was mildly annoyed when I had to do it.
DRG comes to rescue at these hard times.
Come brothers, descend into the mines, whether for the first time or the thousandth. Storms can't reach us 7000 meters below surface.
Next season should be just around the corner as well. Content injection is just what it needs. Such a shame the season after that will take longer due to Rogue Core and Survivor.
So then what’s my incentive to play S5 as soon as it comes out? It’ll still be there for another 11 months.
I started playing DRG in S3 and completed all the S3 and S4 unlocks. I stopped playing once I heard it was going to be another year or more before S5. I get that they want to work on these other games, but it’s a real shame. I felt like 6 months was a decent balance where new stuff was always on the horizon but even casual players had time to unlock everything in a season.
I totally agree as well. It's not that I am totally disinterested in Rogue Core, but DRG is my sweetheart and I want to see more of it.
As for incentives... Hard to say... I like the game so playing it with new stuff as soon as possible is my personal incentive but I understand if this doesn't do it for everyone.
I totally respect your decision to not really care about PSN security and continuing to support a game you enjoy (not sarcasm btw).
However there are lots of people out there that simply can't stand corporations making decisions like these that only bring them money and cause inconveniences to players for the sake of profit. Lots of players also care about their privacy and data. Lots of players don't want to risk getting banned.
The game will lose some of its player base, some by boycott and some by people just being too lazy to create a PSN account.
Unless the player that cares about data has no Google, Apple, or social media accounts, then I would believe that privacy is a big concern. If they have Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, or xbox accounts created to play other certain games, then that argument is completely void.
Yeah, I now recognize that this was Sony forcing Arrowhead to mess with Helldivers.
I guess it was only a matter of time until Sony would try and cash-out on any good opinions this game created for them.
The Devs were not blindsided. They would have been made aware from the start that a PSN account will eventually be made mandatory.
In fact the game states that a PSN account is required, however they give you the option to skip it.
Realistically, that option should have never been given since people don't read everything, if a game allows you to skip creating an additional account most people will choose that option.
Can we stop with the blatant white knighting in this sub for one fucking second? The devs were not 'blindsided'. This is likely a stipulation of the licensing they have with Sony. This was going to happen from the start. It's ok to not like the change, but stop going out of your way to try and absolve the devs.
To quote many of the responses to bickering about balance changes: "it's *their* game. Don't like it? Don't play."
People really are sheep
AH isnt perfect. At times they are out of their element. HD2 is more successful than they imagined and are making blunders due to inexperience.
As long as they rectify blunders people will understand. But if they double down players will eventually leave.
For example. Darktide
You’d think they’re doing anal cavity searches and full background checks on people. You can literally make up and account with burner email and info and just use that. People today just like to argue and push got air out of their pie holes.
I’ve noticed the pc crowd does this anytime something isn’t steam. As if it doesn’t take even LESS time to do this on PC. And the privacy thing… don’t even get me started lol. If they have a phone they already have no privacy.
Like they made a Reddit account to bitch about it, they have Facebook,X/twitter whatever, TikTok, Siri peeping all day like get real, if privacy was a concern to anyone of those people. I’ve got bad news for you.
short version
game released. everyone loved it.
3 months later. "overwhelmingly negative" after adding bullshit monetization and banning mods.
going for youtubers who gave the game free advertising and more.
“Dumb corporate decision” Sony owns Helldivers IP and published it. I’m not defending that shit stain of a company but you’re complaining about the most basic shit to do with any game. Just make an account and sign in dude, you don’t need to enter a card, it’s not that hard.
Ah yes because a highly expensive p2w bundle is the same as making a FREE account that has been required since the start. Just temporarily bypasses due to bugs and issues…. Usual Reddit activities
forcing you to create an account that makes you to comply with a eula that allows them to ban you for reasons that did not apply to steam, while also recording your chat in order to do so\* fixed it for you
They won’t leave. They just joining in on the current “trend” and will still be here after due dates come. People can’t think for themselves anymore. They just go with what’s trending at the moment. Especially redditors.
OP when he can’t read the steam page
https://preview.redd.it/kuba9wq4nayc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0cdbbb585ba937c5fe9f7abf54d079e5dbd96a8
Tarkov is arguably worse. Removing an entire edition of the game only to bring in an even more expensive edition after promising free dlc for those who got the previously most expensive edition is downright evil.
Tarkov actually screwing over their fan base, implementing pay to win, and lying about future dlc is a lot worse than making people sign up for a new account
These are hardly comparable events
These 2 decisions are on a whole different plane of existence, I get being annoyed but making this into some huge game Ending issue just scream of having to much time on hand to me.
Oh no. 5 minutes to make an account. How horrible.
Edit:
We need to bring awareness to the people who live in countries where an account cannot be made. This is something that does need to be brought to Sony and they need to do something about it. But to everyone else. My first statement still stands.
I just made a PSN account, tbh super fast and easy, took me maybe 240 seconds max! Used a burner email too. Super excited I get to keep playing!! Im going to be diving allllll day starting right now! See y’all in there
I feel you pain, my brother in Liberty. The game's industry just can't seem to help but trip over itself at this point. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. XD
Lets face it, since the beginning all corporate idea's are, were and forever will be terrible. they seek nothing, but financial gain and in the end, everyone pays the price for it. Its such a shame too, Helldivers 2 is a oasis in a desert of mediocrity, live services, boring and bland ideas. This is why games such as Helldivers 2 is a god send, but now thanks to Sony, they are about to alienate more then 70% of the total planet because of one decision.
This oasis now has a barbed wire fence and a toll booth with some sony screw up only allowing people from 69 different countries to enter while the rest are left out with nothing.
Everyone damning helldivers are soft as ice cream. So much hate towards a small studio that made an awesome game. All the hate should be directed towards Sony..... Social media has made everyone into habitual protestors. We get it, you want to be heard. Just focus your need for recognition on putting the top 1% on blast. Arrowhead may have signed with the wrong publisher, ok, but they are not pure evil deserving of being hanged in the middle of the town square
I hate Sony, but Tarkov... Tarkov is doing some hardcore reverse evolution mental gymnastics when it comes to stupid decisions.
Tarkov is full blown manipulation. Bsg and bungie are the the worst devs in the industry. Even ea activision and ubisoft dont compare
I’m sorry but EA can never top another company in how fucked they like to do things, even if other companies are objectively worse
Bruh EA isn't even in the REALM of evil that is fucking Take-Two/2K. At least they have the decency to not fucking tie **SINGLEPLAYER MODES** to online like 2K does. Obligatory FUCK 2K, morally right to sail the high seas on their products. More people should be mentioning Take-Two. They are top level scum.
Take Two's evils are much pettier. They primarily just fuck the players directly. EA fucks the entire games industry by buying up promising developers, homogenizing them, and then killing them. We have lost more potential great games due to EA than any other company most likely.
RIP Command and conquer and Westwood, will never be forgotten.
Nuclear launch detected
Catastrophic lightning storm detected
RIP Visceral Games and Bioware
"A future that many will never see..."
Redwood Studios
RIP Pandemic my beloved.
Me playing the og star wars the clone wars by them this week
Not to mention the Battlefront Games, the Saboteur, the Mercenaries games… Man, it’s just disgraceful pitching such a magnificent company
Have you guys forgotten all the shit that Activision/Blizzard have done??
It's almost like a lot of large game companies are actually thunder cunts. Even Nintendo has taken part in the cuntery.
Nintendo dick riders are the worst tbh. It's like Nintendo abuses them and they just go "HARDER MIYAMOTO-SENPAI"
Rip Spore my beloved
Well you are objectively right, but I can’t backtrack now, so fuck EA 💀
EA is turning generations of kids into gambling addicts that will steal their parents' credit cards in order to buy pack of players.
nah see you got it wrong. EA was one of the OG's. These other guys they stand on the shoulders of giants. Theres a reason EA has been known for being shit for DECADES... shit that makes me feel old now..
2k killed evolve always remember that they also had plenty of chance to bring it back.... yet they killed the servers
Did the same to newer Battlefront 2 right after they dropped The Clone Wars. I also never got to play Evolve but it looked like a blast
What did Bungo do?
Bungie has had their failures but people putting them anywhere close to worst devs are delusional lol.
I think it's more of how constantly bungie has fumbled things rather than the severity. But I have to agree with you. And honestly this PSN account shit is nowhere near as bad as Tarkovs junkyard fire going on (may it burn to ash)
Facts. Bungie has at least proven they’ll listen to the player base. That’s more than you can be say about Ubi. EA and 2k will laugh in your face as they sell you the EXACT SAME GAME for $70 year after year.
I have to say seems a bit disingenuous to equate Bungie with BSG, Bungie didn't change their EULA on D2 secretly or change packages on the site as people complained.
Tbf, they did delete an entire game + dlc's worth of content that people like me paid for. They never advertised it as temporary, and if they had, I wouldn't have bought it
What's most fucked up is that content we bought has now officially been gone for longer than it was available
How is Bungie comparable to EA or Ubisoft at all??? The latter two are way worse
What have Bungie done that’s particularly shady? Are you referring to the layoffs?
Tbh bungie isn’t very anti consumer, people like to dunk on them extra hard for how bad they fell off tho
I gotta stick up for Bungie here. Sure, they have made plenty of bonehead moves. A lot of them they backtracked on, and their live service shooter has outlived every other competitor and is still going strong with a huge expansion on the horizon. They aren’t perfect, far from it, but having a live service game thrive for over a decade is damn impressive. They must be doing something right lol.
Well you see it’s not DLC. IT’s downloadable content for the new edition. Totally not DLC. Not to mention AH seems generally apologetic. Meanwhile Nikita be doubling down and not apologizing in anyway for trying to scam us out of a 100 bucks.
I miss when Tarkov used to be good, (at least compared to now) it was so fun, and unlike anything else I’ve played.
Never got into it, all I heard was tales of its demise brought about the wind.
Next week we can buy the Hellbeliver 2 Edition for 250 bucks and get some sweet P2W features!
If they did that, I would emerge through the CEOs living room wall like the Kool Aid man.
Sony just pulled a BSG and changed their FAQ for account linking in real time lol
Locking out offline pve and then using the bUt nOt AlL dLc ArE dLc excuse was a real big brain moment for bsg. Like, for real, what kind of reaction were they expecting?
To be fair a $250 p2w bundle and having to make a fake PS account are definitely on different levels of corporate fuckery, but yeah
Yeah, BSG is light years worse than them lol.
I assume you both never played anything from blizzard in the past 15 years or so. this is standard practice at this point, i am at my fucking limit as well
Man l loved OW1. I cry ery tim
yeah, OW1 was legit awesome and i really liked heroes of the storm too, it is very easy to jump in unlike DOTA2 / LoL, its simple and still plays very well with all the god damn characters i used to love its just too bad the game died
oh man.. ya HOTS was really great. nothing to salt your group out more than a loss or a single random in the group. lololol
At least you can still launch hots and play a match. Can't say the same for OW1.
Yep, pure villainy how they killed that game and absurd how hard the OW2 fanbase will go to justify Blizzard's malfeasance and try to gaslight you into thinking that OW1 wasn't actually fun at all.
>Warcraft 3 is so good, im glad I own it and can play it when I want >Checks library >Where is my Warcraft 3
Silly.. you havent repurchased the repaint/reforge/pixel-lift enough times to play it.
Side note for WC3. Get SC2 for free, go to arcade and then campaign section. Someone is redoing it in the SC2 engine and it runs amazing. Not all of it is available at this time though.
Dont make me cry bruh
Actizzard. Blizzard died when they sold to activision.
If only those companies stopped forcing you to give them money. Oh wait...
why do you think i am playing hd2? lol D4 was the nail in the coffin for me, blizzard is officially in my ban list now, fuck them. I keep giving them chances and they repeatedly rape my trust.
Tarkov's decision doesn't come from higher up as they publish independently
Independently idiotic decisions are still idiotic decisions.
The p2w bundle is really really bad. But for people who won't be able to play the game that they bought is pretty bad too.
It's insane... Pay and be able to call your buddies to reinforce you in raid! Pay, and be able to call in a fucking tank to kill people lol. It'd be like if you could just pay $10 to drop a nuke in the match and automatically win.
Please don't give them any more ideas.
But I like coming up with crazy ideas... How about this one... You've just been killed. On the death screen you see a "Bounty" button. Clicking the button charges you 10$ and puts a bounty on the player that killed you. All NPCs on the map will have x-ray vision on your target and will prioritize finding and killing the them. Pay another $10 and you get to go back into the match as one of the scavs that is still alive. $50 and you get to play as one of the boss npcs. Some shitty game company should hire me, I've got more ideas!
Just $2.99 to call in a Hellbomb!
Can we just chill? It's like a month until it begins and a community manager already confirmed that they're awaiting a answer from Sony. It's pretty safe to assume that they won't just ban whole countries from playing just because they can't create a psn profile
If those pitchforks could read they would be very upset.
> But for people who won't be able to play the game that they bought is pretty bad too. People that will end up in this situation if they still want to play. Literally 0. PSN isn't available in a lot of countries officially. You can still buy a Playstation in those countries. People from those countries have created PSN accounts by stating the neares eligible country for almost two decades. Is it against ToS? Sure. Does anyone care? Doesn't look like it.
To be fair, I have been playing helldivers for nearly 3 months now without a PSN account. There’s no reason to change that now
There will be by the end of the month.
Not really, there’s other games out there
what publishers do to an actually good game
This one right here, it's a good game
Honestly though this is classic enshitification. I don’t think any good thing that can be touched by big corp won’t turn into trash sooner than later. Greed kills everything in the end it seems.
I'm just waiting for the AI takeover to throw us a curve ball and replace CEO's instead.
Nah don't worry, the Ai will be highly trained to be as inhumane and negligent to human mental health or anything along those lines. The only line that matters is the one that has to go up! Beep boop line must go up!!1!
A completely inhumane and self-interested, greed-driven AI would actually still be a more responsible shareholder. The reason human shareholders do shitty things like this is because they don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions, they can just sell their shares high before the value plummets due to their awful decision making. An AI whose entire existence is nothing but guaranteeing profit for *one* company would be incentivized to invest in the stability and long-term growth of that company.
An AI CEO is only going to do what we program it to do. What's REALLY going to happen is someone is going to develop an "AI CEO" and loan it out to companies to save money. THAT piece of AI will 100% be driven by short term profits. It won't be until that AI strip mines a thousand companies that anyone will start to think it's not a sustainable idea.
Man, I thought the ultimate evil corporate AI would be like the captain AI from WALL-E that transformed everyone on the ship into mindless consumers of whatever was put in front of them, but at least it kept them alive and happy along with a functioning generation ship. An AI CEO built by real world companies would so much worse.
Helldivers is an insanely successful game for Sony and they are upset there is a bigger pie they aren’t getting (our data)
They own the servers they already have data on you
Not your face and ID
Or your Steam data.
Thats because uk and ireland laws
How would sony get that info?
I disagree. The impact to the game from creating a 3rd party account that was mentioned on the store page doesn't make the game worse. It's worse for countries who literally can't create one. But the generally impact for the majority of gamers is zero.
And Sony should not have had it on the storefront there. Solutions: Refund to anyone who purchased in an area incorrectly sold in regions they can't support due to psn. Halt sales there Allow those that already purchased in those regions to continue without psn because they legally can't get one, halt future sells there. Allow those without the ability to get legal psn accounts to just play and keep it for any region that has psn. Anyone who complains about having to sign up for a psn account really doesn't have a leg when so many third party accounts exist already. And is the solution that solves everyone's issue. Sony has the right to ask for psn login, they published the game and put a larger financial stake, and provide support.
When you decide to play some other game, notify me please what game you're planning to play, so I at least have time to morally prepare...
You’re right… this whole thing… all of it… https://i.redd.it/pftptzfcq8yc1.gif
Please don’t move to Deep Rock. PLEASE!
I'm gonna go sticky a post to the top of the EFT sub blaming the entire thing on you, hope that's okay
https://i.redd.it/r002a0i92byc1.gif
[Me all day tomorrow after blaming this whole thing on Bergen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoToHKCas4)
Go to War Thunder. I’ve been looking for a reason to not play it anymore.
if war thunder in its current state isn’t enough i think the snail well and truly has your soul in a chokehold. i advise you to resign yourself.
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Sony has decided that we now NEED a PSN account. Even if we play on Steam. Don't have one? Make one before June 4th or lose the ability to play the game. Didn't need one before? Sucks to you. Don't want us having your personal information after we've shown we're incapable of protecting it from hackers and security breaches? Tough titties. Guess you'd better make that account so you don't lose the game you paid money for~! Can't make one because you [don't live in one of these countries?](https://www.playstation.com/country-selector/index.html) Well, I guess you're triple fucked.
They didn't just now decide this. This was always on the steam store page since day 1.
Steam page was THE ONLY thing tho. Not even their official website nor EULA mentioned this. Literally the only thing was that tiny sign on their steam store page, nowhere else. And even still they specifically tell you that you don't need a PSN account on their official webpage. So... there's that
Or just go full fake information lol
The idea that making players pay $250 for a feature that was promised during ea is even remotely similar to being asked to make a game account is really, truly, the definition of hyperbole. I understand not liking the decision, but let's not pretend like this is anywhere near the same ballpark as the fuckery Tarkov is up to.
Unheard edition was a promise broken by BSG. This game has pretty clearly stated since release that it requires a 3rd party account, and it already did make you link an account if you actually played in the first week like so many claim to have done. And yeah, I was mildly annoyed when I had to do it.
DRG comes to rescue at these hard times. Come brothers, descend into the mines, whether for the first time or the thousandth. Storms can't reach us 7000 meters below surface.
The ol' reliable is on the menu again.
Next season should be just around the corner as well. Content injection is just what it needs. Such a shame the season after that will take longer due to Rogue Core and Survivor.
Longer than the nearly 18 months it’s been since S4? Or longer than the ~6 months between S1/S2/S3?
According to their latest live, S6 will be at Q3 of 2025 :(
So then what’s my incentive to play S5 as soon as it comes out? It’ll still be there for another 11 months. I started playing DRG in S3 and completed all the S3 and S4 unlocks. I stopped playing once I heard it was going to be another year or more before S5. I get that they want to work on these other games, but it’s a real shame. I felt like 6 months was a decent balance where new stuff was always on the horizon but even casual players had time to unlock everything in a season.
I totally agree as well. It's not that I am totally disinterested in Rogue Core, but DRG is my sweetheart and I want to see more of it. As for incentives... Hard to say... I like the game so playing it with new stuff as soon as possible is my personal incentive but I understand if this doesn't do it for everyone.
They're also adding in a season switcher so you can go back to older seasons
Brothers of the mine rejoice!
Brothers of the mine rejoice!
Ghost Ship Games better be seeing an opportunity to capitalize.
I came in here to say this too! Been splitting my time between both games and it’s helped a ton with burnout.
Deep rock was fun but I really got burned out on it. Starting feeling claustrophobic
Did I hear a ROCK AND STONE!?!?
Rock and Stone in the Heart!
ROCK AND STONE !!!
Tbf these are non comparable, the psn thing is a nuisance, but nothing compared to what Tarkov did to fuck over their community
Depends on where you are. At least you CAN still play tarkov with the 'fuck the poors' edition. Not necessarily true with PSN.
Watching this entire sub radicalise to anti-coporatism and willing it to tip into socialism and I robo-giggle like the Bot I secretly am.
Oops. Well I'm going to keep playing and having fun. Already linked my accounts. Best of luck to everyone.
Same, game is good in my books lol. I didn't let Microsoft Account nonsense stop me from enjoying Minecraft either
Funny, Microsoft account shenanigans literally made me stop playing Minecraft. Old Mojang account from Alpha became completely inaccessible.
I totally respect your decision to not really care about PSN security and continuing to support a game you enjoy (not sarcasm btw). However there are lots of people out there that simply can't stand corporations making decisions like these that only bring them money and cause inconveniences to players for the sake of profit. Lots of players also care about their privacy and data. Lots of players don't want to risk getting banned. The game will lose some of its player base, some by boycott and some by people just being too lazy to create a PSN account.
Unless the player that cares about data has no Google, Apple, or social media accounts, then I would believe that privacy is a big concern. If they have Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, or xbox accounts created to play other certain games, then that argument is completely void.
Yep, a lot of this outrage feels very selective to me.
Wait till people find out you need a Steam account
What would you have me do? Refund and uninstall a game that I enjoy because a few people I never met can't play?
i can't tell if you're blaming the devs or not but Imma put this anyways: the devs were just as blindsided as we were. This was all sony.
Yeah, I now recognize that this was Sony forcing Arrowhead to mess with Helldivers. I guess it was only a matter of time until Sony would try and cash-out on any good opinions this game created for them.
Yhea Sony screwing smaller devs is nothing new and will most definitely continue to happen
The Devs were not blindsided. They would have been made aware from the start that a PSN account will eventually be made mandatory. In fact the game states that a PSN account is required, however they give you the option to skip it. Realistically, that option should have never been given since people don't read everything, if a game allows you to skip creating an additional account most people will choose that option.
Can we stop with the blatant white knighting in this sub for one fucking second? The devs were not 'blindsided'. This is likely a stipulation of the licensing they have with Sony. This was going to happen from the start. It's ok to not like the change, but stop going out of your way to try and absolve the devs. To quote many of the responses to bickering about balance changes: "it's *their* game. Don't like it? Don't play."
People really are sheep AH isnt perfect. At times they are out of their element. HD2 is more successful than they imagined and are making blunders due to inexperience. As long as they rectify blunders people will understand. But if they double down players will eventually leave. For example. Darktide
They were not Blind sided at all. They signed contracts for this. The Devs and Sony knew yet still sold the product in countries without PSN.
Anyone else just gonna log on and blast tonight?
The 2 controversies aren't even comparable 😂
One is an email address the other is $250 these are not the same
Please don't play dbd or sea of thieves
I swear this is one of the whiniest subreddits I’ve ever seen. Good lord.
You’d think they’re doing anal cavity searches and full background checks on people. You can literally make up and account with burner email and info and just use that. People today just like to argue and push got air out of their pie holes.
I’ve noticed the pc crowd does this anytime something isn’t steam. As if it doesn’t take even LESS time to do this on PC. And the privacy thing… don’t even get me started lol. If they have a phone they already have no privacy.
Like they made a Reddit account to bitch about it, they have Facebook,X/twitter whatever, TikTok, Siri peeping all day like get real, if privacy was a concern to anyone of those people. I’ve got bad news for you.
All this over registering a free PSN account? Lol
and before that was Tekken8.
What happened with Tekken 8?
short version game released. everyone loved it. 3 months later. "overwhelmingly negative" after adding bullshit monetization and banning mods. going for youtubers who gave the game free advertising and more.
Ahh
It's just.. so dumb. Corporations suck.
Its not even Arrowheads fault. Why are people pointing blame at the dev's when it's Sony who is requiring Playstation accounts?
you compare 50kg bomb with Tsar bomb but ok. Only valid argument is from people which cant use PSN in their country, others are just lazy people
“Dumb corporate decision” Sony owns Helldivers IP and published it. I’m not defending that shit stain of a company but you’re complaining about the most basic shit to do with any game. Just make an account and sign in dude, you don’t need to enter a card, it’s not that hard.
Ah yes because a highly expensive p2w bundle is the same as making a FREE account that has been required since the start. Just temporarily bypasses due to bugs and issues…. Usual Reddit activities
forcing you to create an account that makes you to comply with a eula that allows them to ban you for reasons that did not apply to steam, while also recording your chat in order to do so\* fixed it for you
I can’t wait for all the idiots to leave, game will be great again.
unfortunately, they'll all still be there.
They won’t leave. They just joining in on the current “trend” and will still be here after due dates come. People can’t think for themselves anymore. They just go with what’s trending at the moment. Especially redditors.
I get grossed out by snoy boi and their simps just as much as the next helldiver, but that $250 p2w bs is an order of magnitude more fked up
Don't forget Take2 killing Kerbal Space Program 2!
OP when he can’t read the steam page https://preview.redd.it/kuba9wq4nayc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0cdbbb585ba937c5fe9f7abf54d079e5dbd96a8
Recommend Galactic Contention, a Star Wars mod for Squad
fuckin corpo bastards.
Ngl, this was actually funny Hahaha! Came here to see the controversy, ended up laughing XD
What we are seeing with Helldivers 2 pales in comparison to what the Tarkov devs are currently doing
Just play warframe. Everything they do is dumb but they haven’t actually hurt the players yet
Tarkov is arguably worse. Removing an entire edition of the game only to bring in an even more expensive edition after promising free dlc for those who got the previously most expensive edition is downright evil.
Taking 5 minutes to make a free psn account to play a game you enjoy. Your suffering knows no bounds. You are a true martyr of the people.
Tarkov actually screwing over their fan base, implementing pay to win, and lying about future dlc is a lot worse than making people sign up for a new account These are hardly comparable events
I feel like the Tarkov stuff is on a whole different level of severity than the Sony helldivers PSN situation was.
Delete reddit, they also have your email!!!1!!
They also have all your desires and kinky shit
These 2 decisions are on a whole different plane of existence, I get being annoyed but making this into some huge game Ending issue just scream of having to much time on hand to me.
Oh no. 5 minutes to make an account. How horrible. Edit: We need to bring awareness to the people who live in countries where an account cannot be made. This is something that does need to be brought to Sony and they need to do something about it. But to everyone else. My first statement still stands.
man that was my thought . it like helldiver saw how much media cover tarkov got by fucking up an thought" wait hold my bear"
Comparing the two is egregious
Back to BG3
Shart, my beloved
Well guess what, TF2 hasn’t had any corporate decisions to fuck it up in years! …please come back Valve.
Try checking Grey Zone Warfare instead; it runs like absolute dogshit. I'm losing my fucking mind.
I just made a PSN account, tbh super fast and easy, took me maybe 240 seconds max! Used a burner email too. Super excited I get to keep playing!! Im going to be diving allllll day starting right now! See y’all in there
So this is all your fault then...
https://preview.redd.it/05yktkscmayc1.png?width=954&format=png&auto=webp&s=02ff3f8fc3d3c929a6c4903fbb5930332aebfd07 FU## sony
And KSP 2's dev team gets laid off in the interim 🫠 Back to Hunt Showdown for me.
There is still hope for you bro: ROCK AND STONE!!!
The tarkov shit is about 10000 times worse than this 😂
Unrelated but I love that cat picture
AN EXCLUSIVE FEATURE OBTAINABLE ONLY BY PAYING? that’s not a DLC guys
Yeah rough week…
I feel you pain, my brother in Liberty. The game's industry just can't seem to help but trip over itself at this point. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. XD
It's all so tiresome. Back to elden ring to set up for dlc
Lets face it, since the beginning all corporate idea's are, were and forever will be terrible. they seek nothing, but financial gain and in the end, everyone pays the price for it. Its such a shame too, Helldivers 2 is a oasis in a desert of mediocrity, live services, boring and bland ideas. This is why games such as Helldivers 2 is a god send, but now thanks to Sony, they are about to alienate more then 70% of the total planet because of one decision. This oasis now has a barbed wire fence and a toll booth with some sony screw up only allowing people from 69 different countries to enter while the rest are left out with nothing.
If this bullshit is what kills this game, I am going to have an aneurysm out of sheer rage.
sad cheeky breeki noises
Where did they get this picture of me
Everyone damning helldivers are soft as ice cream. So much hate towards a small studio that made an awesome game. All the hate should be directed towards Sony..... Social media has made everyone into habitual protestors. We get it, you want to be heard. Just focus your need for recognition on putting the top 1% on blast. Arrowhead may have signed with the wrong publisher, ok, but they are not pure evil deserving of being hanged in the middle of the town square
Tarkov is the devs fault. Helldiver’s is not.
I love when Sony does something that affects Helldivers, Helldivers get the blame. The brain rot is real.
these 2 things are not even remotely comparable. A PSN Account is free. Tarkov trys to push you to purchase a ridiculous overpriced p2w game version
Mate I am getting pissed at everybody blaming ah they have no control over it
At this rate I’ll just be playing modded Skyrim/fallout 4 forever
Gaming industry for the past 5 years.