I feel Stolas on so many levels. His heart is in the right place, his daughter loves him, but external factors are trying their damndest to ruin everything.
Tbh, I don't think it's totally on Stelal, Andrealphus, and Striker. It seems a lot of his issues with Octavia is in his inability to listen to her or prioritize her as he did when she was younger. Not saying those factors haven't made it difficult, but it's not entirely on them.
100% agree. He could have done a lot of things differently, ie "better", but he isn't perfect. I think that makes him a great character. He has his own issues to work out
I don't think he's that good of a father but he's not a bad father either. He clearly loves Octavia, but he himself fucks up a lot and also just his situation is fucked in general.
He loves Octavia more then Blitz though that's for sure, he will kill u if u hurt his baby
When he was protecting Blitz, he played around, a little fanfare, light possession. When Octavia was even mildly threatened, he just straight up killed the imp with his glare. No talking, no fucking around, just instant death.
He is trying. I wouldn’t say he is a bad father, but rather a man caught in life choices that were made for him who is struggling to do the best he can all things considered.
He is a gay man that (likely) never even wanted kids but had them just to carry on the family name. To add on to that he has a wife whom he hates that is actively trying to kill him. Despite this he is still trying to do the best he can raising a child that he (likely) never even wanted to begin with.
He is trying but fatherhood wasn’t exactly something he wanted. He still does love his daughter though which is a lot more than we can say compared to the baby momma
It's important to point that out: that while Stolas *might not* have wanted to have Via, he unquestionably wants her in his life and wants to be a good father to her.
He probably *did* not want Via.
But now that he has her, he *does* want her, and I think that’s even sweeter. He fell in love with that little owlet, and holy fuck is he trying to be a good dad.
That’s far better than I can say about my dad.
I'm not so sure Stolas is gay so much as he's potentially either single target sexuality (i.e. Blitz is the only person he's ever been attracted to and would have been regardless if Blitz was male or female), bisexual but so traumatized by Stella that women are a trigger for him romantically, or else he might simply be attracted to Imps specifically because he was more or less *raised* by them. (Paimon doesn't even know his *name* most of the time.) If the latter, then yeah, I'm likely to say that Blitz just happened to be the one to catch his eye. But I don't know if they've ever officially said what his sexuality is yet. We just know he definitely has a romantic attraction to Blitz.
He may not have wanted a child with Stella, but from the way he treats her, he absolutely _**loves**_ Octavia.
Hell, if he'd ever had a chance to see what a good relationship is like or to see what it's like to have a good father, maybe he would have actually _wanted_ to have a child.
Maybe if he'd been happier and in a healthy, gay relationship, he would have tried Hell's version of In Vitro Fertilization.
he needed his imp boytoy to protect him during the loo loo land episode, but after the talking to octavia scene he easily medusa'd the imp trying to kill him which means he was perfectly capable of defending himself - plus, all he did throughout was thirst over blitz
only AFTER octavia ran out was when he realised she wasnt having fun
thought octavia's cries were tears of happiness
his powers are 'limited' when he doesnt have his grimoire yet is able to make a portal to the h uman world without it
more [in this post, which explains it way better than i did](https://www.reddit.com/r/HelluvaBoss/comments/kwykgc/stolas_is_a_bad_father/)
I feel even without extra context with just how bad Stella is (I don’t think the show ever portrayed her as good) it’s kinda weird to put “loving the kid’s mother” as one of the signs of being a decent parent. You can be a decent parent and be gay. I promise it’s possible.
He’s not a horrible father. He obviously loves Octavia and sees her as a shining star in a sea of darkness in his life and would do anything to help her. It’s just that he gets caught up in a lot of other life stuff so his time with her is limited
While we haven't seen him be a Dad much, what we've seen indicates he probably is. He clearly loves Via more than anything and would do anything for her.
He loves Via with all his heart and he's trying to improve both himself and their collective situation. That makes him a good dad in my book. Yes he fucks up with his daughter, but he's also decent at acknowledging his mistakes and course-correcting.
Uhm, no.
Depending on my mood he’d either be on the same tier as Millie’s, but they are above him on that tier, or he’s a tier below. His life and upbringing means he has issues, “fleas” as some self-help communities would call it, but he genuinely cares and tries to be the best father he can to Octavia.
There are moments where we can argue how much of his “bad” moments is him being legit bad and how much they are played up normal things normal parents go through.
Really, that’s Stolas’ characterization for nearly everything. He tries to put on a happy face. When he realizes that isn’t working he has the self-reflection to look for the core reason why. Then attempts to either fix the issue or reassure those around him, if it can be.
He might not be as compatible with Octavia as Millie is with her family personality wise, but he tries.
Contrast Paimon who is a bad father, and Crimson and Cash who are terrible fathers.
He’s not “bad bad” but he would definitely get namedropped in therapy by Via in a few years.
Stories are not meant to be read literally, but to present a message through the characters. As a character, Stolas is a passive person stuck in his fantasies and his story is meant to showcase him become an active member of his own life. Similarly, he starts as a bad father (just like his dad) that tries over the course of the story to become a good one. Just like he technically has to learn to communicate his feelings assertively in his relationship with Blitzo.
How the writers approached the narrative is another thing, we also don’t know how it ends or what other plans they have for the characters. But on a “technical” level discussing if he is a bad father is akin to discussing if Blitzo has attachment issues or Moxxie has self-esteem problems.
No. He’s a great dad. He endured decades of abuse from a woman who never loved him just to try to give their daughter an ideal childhood. He only split up with Stella once Via was basically an adult. I think kids forget that their parents are more than their caregiver. Parents have their own interests, hobbies and love interests that have nothing to do with their kids. It’s hard for kids to see their parents date other people but they have to realize that their parents deserve happiness too. And despite Stolas’s interest in Blitzo, he always puts Via first. I sympathize with Via but Stolas is doing the best he can.
He’s wish washy, it makes me uncomfortable how stolas is just so comfortable flirting with blitzø around his daughter especially after their very brutal divorce, but you can tell he cares about his daughter, he’s just a bit inconsiderate
I think he’s been in a sham marriage so long that he genuinely didn’t understand why that attitude would bother Octavia until she made it clear it made her uncomfortable.
It’s still partly his fault of course, but I think that’s a big reason
Sure, but he live in hell and has a terrible home life and from what little we know, seemingly also a terrible upbringing. It’s quite possible he doesn’t know that.
That’s part of what I think is still his fault, but it makes sense, even if it’s still a flaw
He was experiencing new feelings of intimacy and love he'd never felt before. Compare that with his lack of social awareness and it makes sense. They were both visibly uncomfortable, but he lacks the social awareness to pick up on it right away.
The fact that Octavia still loves, cares, and talks to him shows he’s a great father regardless of all other factors. Hes doing his best, she clearly sees it.
not bad, but not great either.
he has his good moments and he does care for his daughter but his life in general seems to get int he way of that and sometimes he'll let it.
Yes, I believe he is. Maybe if we were shown him interacting with his daughter more, I would think different, but based on the interactions we've seen, I don't think so. The problem might be more that Octavia is kind of excluded from the narrative, though. For example, we have never seen her interact with Stella, which is a fault to the writing instead of Stolas. Additionally, her reaction to Stolas being hospitalized was never shown. You'd think as his daughter, she would play a role in that plot point, but no. As for Stolas being a bad father, he openly flirts with the man who he's having an affair with in front of his daughter in Loo-Loo Land, and argues with Stella in front of Octavia, which a good parent should never do during a divorse. He's not the worst, he obviously loves his daughter, but yes, he is not a good father.
If she saw him in the hospital, how would he explain what happened? He doesn't badmouth Stella in front of her. Maybe he didn't want to make her upset with his injuries..
I'm sorry, but he definitely badmouths Stella in front of her. Remember him arguing with Stella on the phone in Seeing Stars (I think) where he called her a bitch in front of Octavia among other things. Also, she's his 17-year-old daughter and he had life-threatening injuries. She has a right to know.
Based on the few scenes we have seen of Stolas being a father when Octavia is young I'd say he's a fine father. Obviously situations have escalated and it also seems that Octavia doesn't completely resent him (more than a usual teenager) they still very much share a bond.
Now has he messed up in recent times? Sure of course, what parent hasn't? But he's shown to run to her immediately the love there is obvious he just needs to come to terms with a lot of what is going on at the moment. But it's a season for him and it'll be a tough season but I wouldn't brand him a bad father just a caring one that's made a few questionable decisions in the past bit of time.
I think he clearly really loves Octavia and wants the best for her. He just doesn’t know how to be a good dad because his parents don’t even know his name. He also has an insane wife and hates his life. But i don’t think he’s a bad dad. He’s really trying.
I can see how he is and is not a good father. He's trying, but he needs to prioritize Via more. He gets too preoccupied in the other people around him on times he agreed to be with her. He thinks taking her to Loo Loo Land will get her mind off of the fighting he's having with her mom, but he of course chooses a place she says she's too old for and gets IMP to be their body guards just so he can flirt with Blitz. I'm not saying they would have gone long without them as they faced many instances where they were nearly killed by other imps, but he chose to be horny with Blitz instead of listening to how uncomfortable Via was with where they were.
Seeing Stars might be trickier. Seeing the meteor shower together was planned for well over a decade. Stella moving out got in the way of him remembering that event. When Via does run off to the human realm and Blitz breaks the news of this, Stolas is obviously concerned and make it a point to rescue her. Problem is, Blitz is mistaken for a celebrity and when Stolas claims he's his agent, both of them are pulled away in the van to a sitcom recording neither of them can get out of. M&M make a career is Nashville which leave Loona to be the only one to look for her.
With this said, Stolas is a flawed parent. He was forced to have her when he and Stella were practically teenagers. While Via is 17 at this point and is of course going to have to grow independence at some point, she will never age out of needing a parent in her life. Whether it be for any trouble she runs into that she cannot handle on her own or if she just needs a shoulder to cry on, that's why he needs to still be present in her life.
The only time I would say he really screwed up is in Loo Loo Land. The way he introduced Blitz to Via so soon after the affair like it was nothing and then flirted with him right in front of her was disturbing. I don't blame him for pursuing a relationship of his choosing, but it was way too soon for Via to meet Blitz, and he only made them both uncomfortable. He'll have major work to do to help Via come to terms with his new relationship after that.
He clearly loves her, and she has been his only reason for staying strong the past 17 years. But he didn't have a good dad to show him what to do, he has no social support system, he was forced into a loveless marriage to someone he can't be attracted to who hates his guts, and his love life is in shambles with no prior opportunities to learn what a healthy relationship is. He's a victim of a neglectful upbringing, no interpersonal relationships and lifelong loneliness.
We've only really seen him let via down once and alot of shit was happening. The second he learned she was gon dude was ready to go ham to get her back.
The worst thing hes seemingly done for her life is not get devorced sooner but that wasnt really annoption for him or didnt seem to be.
She seems to care fo her father alot more than her mom who now is probably just using her as a tool to hurt him more
He stayed with Stella as long as he did so that Octavia can have a whole family. The only bad things I've seen him do was take Loo Loo Land after she said she didn't want to, shamelessly flirting with Blitø in front of her, and forgetting about taking her to see the meteor shower.
He’s a “bad husband” (gay man in a straight/hetero relationship), but he’s doing his best to be a good father for his child all the same.
I don’t see how that makes him bad just because he makes mistakes, *especially* being a first time parent and likely the *only* one even trying to interact with her as a parent anyways.
Not sure why this is a question when it is directly covered in an episode. He is trying which is better than a lot but far from perfect. Also it is hell so good is relative.
Yes, but he doesn't want to be.
But just because α parent feels bad doesn't make what they did excusable or any less traumatic for their children.
For example, Stolas forgot about the date Via waited years for, she even hoped he would remember it through the divorce and arguments. All that toxicity and she still held out hope, when he crushed it he may not have done so intentionally, but he still hurt her.
Both Stolas and Stella are toxic as hell to each other and Via
I wouldn’t say he’s BAD father. He just has problems listening to his daughter and her wants when its contradicting his feelings. In LooLoo Land he took her to place she didn’t even want to go in hopes to get out of the house and away from Stella and brought HIS **BOOTY CALL** with him. Most the time he was flirting with Blitzø. Idk if “ignored” is the right word but he definitely didn’t make an effort to listen to her until the end.
In Seeing Stars he essentially does the same thing. He chooses auguring with Stella rather than listening the his daughter. He wasn’t actively TRYING to shut down Octavia, just too preoccupied with his own personal life and wants.
At least he put effort to fixing his wrongs and better understanding his daughter. So, he isn’t *bad* father just isn’t a great one either.
I wouldn’t say he’s a good (as in competent) father, but definitely not a bad father either. He’s definitely a Bumbling Dad to Octavia, but definitely a loving one. Plus, keep in mind his Papa Wolf moments in “Loo Loo Land”, “Seeing Stars”, and “Western Energy”. And there’s the guilt he feels when he believes he’s unwittingly repeating Paimon’s example. Stolas is not the perfect parent, but literally nobody is.
I think he’s a very good father for the circumstances involved—given how he had his kid when he was still a kid, how miserable his marriage is, and the clear clinical depression involved. Those are the caveats though, looking at his behavior outside of that I’d say he’s…not bad? Slightly inappropriate and forgetful, but loving.
I'd argue the only bad father is Moxxie's dad bc he literally kills people, is in the mafia, and kidnapped his married son to marry him off for money. Stolas and Blitzø actually care about their kids and try their best even if it doesn't pan out. They have their own trauma and issues going on but the genuinely care about their kids and are there for them when they need them (sometimes a little late but still). Paimon is definitely not a good dad but he has multiple kids he probably was forced to have given stolas's situation, not saying it's an excuse but at least he sort of tries? He took stolas to the circus when he was crying and paid to get him a friend. Sort of a "how could I ruin your life? I wasn't even there" situation.
Cash was a pretty horrible dad to Blitzo. Who sells their kid for $5 and a used condom, then uses their wife's health condition to turn their child into a thief?
I mean… he’s not a great one? He’s trying, absolutely. But the way he’s handled his divorce in front of Octavia, bad. The way he’s steamrolled over her wishes when trying to do nice things for her (horny at loo loo land and forgetting then talking over her request to see the stars), not good. He’s not abusive but via is probably coming out of this with daddy issues
He definitely is not, he’s trying his best to make his daughter happy, it was unexpected, but he still cares for her daughter, so she doesn’t become like her mother
He's a dad in a rough point in his life struggling with various things including his wife trying to have him killed. The fact that he still shows love and care for Octavia when he could easily push her away due to the fact that she might remind him of Stella whenever he looks at her proves he's trying despite the fact that everything is so fucked up for him. He's not a bad dad he's just a dad in a bad situation who's trying his best with his daughter whilst also trying to fix the life falling apart around him.
He’s definitely NOT a good father, but there’s much WORSE out there. So I’d say he’s complex, and definitely not great. He’s definitely trying, but ultimately I think there’s things he’s more focused on when he shouldn’t be.
He's not perfect by any means, but he's making the most out of the situation. That makes him a good father in my opinion. He cares, and he lets her know that. He endured a torturous marriage filled with emotional abuse just to keep the family together. That's already a lot from someone who was forced into a marriage he did not want and likely never wanted children either.
HELL NO STOLAS IS NOT A BAD FATHER STELLA IS A HORRIBLE MOTHER, Stolas is working all the time, he's constantly abused by Stella and he never gets truly loved by her not once has she loved him, it was forced and she treat Stolas like garbage. So no Stolas is not a bad father, it's Stella who is the worst parent.
From Octavia's perspective, discovering that her father, Stolas, cheated on her mother, Stella, with Blitzo, may have shattered her sense of family. Octavia's heartbreak is evident when she tells Stolas, "It doesn't feel like home anymore, you ruined it." Although Octavia may not fully understand her father's past or the complexities of adult relationships, the betrayal she feels is real. While Stella's abusive behavior likely played a role in Stolas's rekindled feelings for Blitzo, Stolas's decision to cheat cannot be justified. Despite the circumstances, infidelity is never the right course of action.
But to conclude it, he isnt a bad nor great father, but at least, he cared about Octavia and her feelings, expect Stella. This is my opinion.
He's trying,but he's a tad bad
I mean the episode where he goes to lulu land to be with Octavia is an improvement,but bringing blitzø doesn't make sense,I'm sure he has like a gazillion bodyguards
I might be wrong about this but I'm trying to say that he gives too much time for blitzø instead of his daughter
Nah. He tries his hardest but it’s not like he exactly had the best fatherly figure. He endured a miserable marriage with someone who takes any opportunity to demean or insult him just so she could have something resembling a normal life. He’s just got a lot of emotional baggage and struggles with communicating the reason of the divorce to her.
Not really. Of course, he's far from the best father ever— which is a given considering the family situation. His wife Stella is actively trying to kill him (though not by her own hands, of course). Still, he tries to be a good father, which is better than many (real or not) fathers. His heart is in the right place, at the very least.
Now, by hell's standards, he's even pretty good. Crimson and Cash, to name a few, were horrible fathers respectively.
Stolas' own father, Paimon, wasn't a good father. Typical ancient demon with too many kids to count (or name). Still better than the ones mentioned above, but he wasn't exactly a good example for Stolas.
Finally, Stolas probably didn't want a kid to begin with— he was just expected to. Still, he probably came to love Octavia when she was here, which makes it all the more sweet.
Yes, yes he is.
He's not a *malicious* father, and he clearly cares about Via, but that's not enough to not be a bad father. He doesn't know his daughter at all, treats her like a child, flirts with his affair partner in front of her on a day that was supposed to be hers, and, as Via says, prioritizes his issues with Stella over his relationship with Via.
Through the course of the show, we see him becoming aware of his foibles as a father, trying to better connect and mend ties with Octavia….with mixed results. We also see him struggle to balance this effort with his attempt to indulge and improve his rollercoaster relationship/infatuation with Blitz. He’s a flawed parent, but he’s self aware and trying. He’s certainly not malicious or intentionally abusive…he does have a genuine care for his daughter, he just struggles to understand and connect with her.
He is because in season two ep 1 he told Stella the reason why he endured Stella’s constant insults and cruelty was for Octavia to have a better life he did all that just so that she can have a different life not the one he has with Stella sure it may look like he wasn’t a good father but I think he is since he really loves octavia he tried to make her happy again(in loo loo land ) but realize that he made it worse and he told her he won’t run off with blitz so that he won’t leave her behind
Yes…
He loves Via but he puts his wants before her.
He took her to Loo Loo land but his bf has to come with him when she clearly is angry about that. Not to mention that stolas absolutely does not need Blitzos help he can turn people to stone he just wanted his plaything to tag along. Striker would probably be a better father. Yes he’d be classist but he’d teach self protection, horse riding, farming animal care. The only downside is he has a dangerous job.
He is neglectful, which is bad in itself, he is mot abusive but he has so much shit going on that he ended up neglecting Octavia's wants, he yells and gets yelled more than he has a moment with her, i imagine that their divorce is gonna be an absolute net positive for their relationship, but ultimately neglecting is a bad quality in parenting.
I see parallels with another bird person who was an amazing dad but only when he remember to focus on their kids. Critical Role's Cerrit Agrupnin from EXU Calamity, a dnd character. A bird detective who was so focused on his job and his position that it took the fucking apocalypse for him to figure out who his children were, and that is not even cause he was a bad dad, because as soon as shit hit the fan his children were the priority, but a special event finally showing you the father you could be does not erase that it was the father that you weren't until now.
No. He isn't. He has an emotionally abusive wife who spent decades torturing him. He's literally the only person in photos with her and the mom is making the split as violent as possible.
from what we have been shown as the audience, no i don’t not think stolas is a bad father. he cares for octavia very deeply, more than he even loved blitzo. we see that he was born into a position where he was never able to make choices for himself. but he clearly loves octavia and wants the best for her, he just doesn’t seem to know what that is himself. but he doesn’t push a lot of the royal shit that he endured onto octavia. he seems to let her do and be who she is. i’m sure octavia’s perspective of her father is different from the audience, but coming from the daughter of a father who tried his best despite the circumstances, it’s hard to keep hating him as you age and start to understand the why’s of situations.
I feel like people are confusing effort with being good at something here. He is definitely trying. But I could pick up a guitar and try as hard as I can to play a song and I’d be shit at it. Because I don’t know how to play the guitar. He clearly loves his daughter and *wants* to be a good father, but he’s not quite there yet.
He's not a good dad. But he's trying. Sometimes, trying isn't enough. He's got his priorities mixed up, but he's working on himself. Once he gets himself figured out, he and Octavia will be okay. Or on the mend.
Unclear - his behavior in the Loo Loo land was really reprehensible; playing it off as father-daughter bonding but really just trying to fck his body guard (Blitz) the whole time in front of his daughter who is already caught between extremely hostile parents who are embattled because of Stolas’ same relationship with Blitz. But then he seems to improve later in the show? So I’m not sure if Vivz was still trying to figure out how to write their relationship
He obviously truly loves and wants the best for Octavia, but dude is VERY immature. Also, I really wouldn’t appreciate how weird he is with Blitzo - in front of her! - if I was Octavia. It does sometimes feel like his obsession with Blitzo sometimes overcrowds his rational brain, and Octavia suffers for it.
well, the only thing that sets him apart from all the other shit fathers is that he actually tries to be a dad, but his life is so terrible it’s hard for him
I mean. Depends what your definition of a bad father is. He csn be a little selfish and forgetful at times. But at least he appologizes when he realizes his mistake, tries to be better and genuenly loves Via. Thats more than a lot of people do.
I think stolas is an amazing father. he’s just dealing with all the bullshitery that surrounds him. as loona says “everyone has problems, especially Dads, but they’re trying their best”
While it is evident that he loves Via, his actions thus far give the impression that she is not his primary focus. Despite the urgency of finding Via after she ran away due to his previous actions and him having the capability to extricate himself from the TV studio without relying on his book he opted to watch Blitzø tell jokes for hours, unaware of the potential danger his young daughter might be facing. Although he claimed he would never abandon Via for Blitzø, his actions seem to contradict his words.
Yes, as much as people like him, he sucks trying doesn't equal success he ruined her home life for years to the point where he doesn't even know what she likes or what she finds fun then. When he actually tries getting to know her, he invites his fling over and openly flirts with him, then promises to be better to then forget about her again. he's not paimon or Crimson, but he still is a bad father.
He's trying but his whole life situation is ass
I feel Stolas on so many levels. His heart is in the right place, his daughter loves him, but external factors are trying their damndest to ruin everything.
*cough* stella & andrelphus *cough
And the weird fucker from the harvest moon episode
Striker
He had a whole theme song too
How does one get a theme song?
By being badass
being straight i guess, cus he constantly cant stand the gay shit the characters do
He also had the dead mans poison
That's still Stella, though; IIRC, she had hired Striker then, too.
Galloping over them dusty plains
I have a feeling Paimon is going to show up at some point being very unhappy with him too.
I hope paimon dies onscreen
I hope the same for Cash. I think he survived the fire and orchestrated Blitz and Fizz hating each other for 15 years.
Remind me whomst that is?
I'm guessing blitz's dad? He wasn't named in the episodes so idk
Blitz's dad. He was an alcoholic and neglectful, manipulated Blitz into stealing and IMO only cared about Fizz in terms of money, not as a person.
Ah, the cock faced bastard, I hope he meets his end too
*cough* you can’t always blame all Stolas’ mistakes on outside factors let characters have flaws *cough*
*COUGH* the bird prince did nothing wrong *cough*
Tbh, I don't think it's totally on Stelal, Andrealphus, and Striker. It seems a lot of his issues with Octavia is in his inability to listen to her or prioritize her as he did when she was younger. Not saying those factors haven't made it difficult, but it's not entirely on them.
100% agree. He could have done a lot of things differently, ie "better", but he isn't perfect. I think that makes him a great character. He has his own issues to work out
I don't think he's that good of a father but he's not a bad father either. He clearly loves Octavia, but he himself fucks up a lot and also just his situation is fucked in general. He loves Octavia more then Blitz though that's for sure, he will kill u if u hurt his baby
Hurt Blitz: *Threat Level Alpha* *Threaten* Octavia: ***Threat Level APOLLYON***
Scp mention goes hard
"Heavy Containment under lockdown!" 🗣🗣❗❗
"The light containment zone is locked down and ready for decontamination"
Apollyon? Gonna be a Helluva Broken Day
When he was protecting Blitz, he played around, a little fanfare, light possession. When Octavia was even mildly threatened, he just straight up killed the imp with his glare. No talking, no fucking around, just instant death.
He is trying. I wouldn’t say he is a bad father, but rather a man caught in life choices that were made for him who is struggling to do the best he can all things considered. He is a gay man that (likely) never even wanted kids but had them just to carry on the family name. To add on to that he has a wife whom he hates that is actively trying to kill him. Despite this he is still trying to do the best he can raising a child that he (likely) never even wanted to begin with. He is trying but fatherhood wasn’t exactly something he wanted. He still does love his daughter though which is a lot more than we can say compared to the baby momma
It's important to point that out: that while Stolas *might not* have wanted to have Via, he unquestionably wants her in his life and wants to be a good father to her.
He probably *did* not want Via. But now that he has her, he *does* want her, and I think that’s even sweeter. He fell in love with that little owlet, and holy fuck is he trying to be a good dad. That’s far better than I can say about my dad.
This actually happens to alot of people when they have kids. Its a huge thing
I didn’t say he didn’t care for her or want her in his life. Simply that he is doing his best given the circumstances he’s found himself forced into.
hard to even contemplate that in a forced marriage and a forced conception to maintain the family line as a mandatory thing
I'm not so sure Stolas is gay so much as he's potentially either single target sexuality (i.e. Blitz is the only person he's ever been attracted to and would have been regardless if Blitz was male or female), bisexual but so traumatized by Stella that women are a trigger for him romantically, or else he might simply be attracted to Imps specifically because he was more or less *raised* by them. (Paimon doesn't even know his *name* most of the time.) If the latter, then yeah, I'm likely to say that Blitz just happened to be the one to catch his eye. But I don't know if they've ever officially said what his sexuality is yet. We just know he definitely has a romantic attraction to Blitz.
Viv specifically calls stolas gay in tweets
Oh? Never seen any of said tweets. Can you throw a screenshot of one up on here?
He may not have wanted a child with Stella, but from the way he treats her, he absolutely _**loves**_ Octavia. Hell, if he'd ever had a chance to see what a good relationship is like or to see what it's like to have a good father, maybe he would have actually _wanted_ to have a child. Maybe if he'd been happier and in a healthy, gay relationship, he would have tried Hell's version of In Vitro Fertilization.
No, he’s a good father
…. Are you serious?….
he needed his imp boytoy to protect him during the loo loo land episode, but after the talking to octavia scene he easily medusa'd the imp trying to kill him which means he was perfectly capable of defending himself - plus, all he did throughout was thirst over blitz only AFTER octavia ran out was when he realised she wasnt having fun thought octavia's cries were tears of happiness his powers are 'limited' when he doesnt have his grimoire yet is able to make a portal to the h uman world without it more [in this post, which explains it way better than i did](https://www.reddit.com/r/HelluvaBoss/comments/kwykgc/stolas_is_a_bad_father/)
That post did not age well lmao
oh shit nvm i forgot it was posted before we got stolas' cheating justified because they made stella an evil bitch
I feel even without extra context with just how bad Stella is (I don’t think the show ever portrayed her as good) it’s kinda weird to put “loving the kid’s mother” as one of the signs of being a decent parent. You can be a decent parent and be gay. I promise it’s possible.
>his powers are 'limited' when he doesnt have his grimoire yet is able to make a portal to the human world without it I are you saying with this.
He’s not a horrible father. He obviously loves Octavia and sees her as a shining star in a sea of darkness in his life and would do anything to help her. It’s just that he gets caught up in a lot of other life stuff so his time with her is limited
While we haven't seen him be a Dad much, what we've seen indicates he probably is. He clearly loves Via more than anything and would do anything for her.
He loves Via with all his heart and he's trying to improve both himself and their collective situation. That makes him a good dad in my book. Yes he fucks up with his daughter, but he's also decent at acknowledging his mistakes and course-correcting.
No ofc not
Atleast hes trying(unlike other bird which is an member of Octavias family
Fucking bitch whore Stella
Exactly
Uhm, no. Depending on my mood he’d either be on the same tier as Millie’s, but they are above him on that tier, or he’s a tier below. His life and upbringing means he has issues, “fleas” as some self-help communities would call it, but he genuinely cares and tries to be the best father he can to Octavia. There are moments where we can argue how much of his “bad” moments is him being legit bad and how much they are played up normal things normal parents go through. Really, that’s Stolas’ characterization for nearly everything. He tries to put on a happy face. When he realizes that isn’t working he has the self-reflection to look for the core reason why. Then attempts to either fix the issue or reassure those around him, if it can be. He might not be as compatible with Octavia as Millie is with her family personality wise, but he tries. Contrast Paimon who is a bad father, and Crimson and Cash who are terrible fathers.
He’s not “bad bad” but he would definitely get namedropped in therapy by Via in a few years. Stories are not meant to be read literally, but to present a message through the characters. As a character, Stolas is a passive person stuck in his fantasies and his story is meant to showcase him become an active member of his own life. Similarly, he starts as a bad father (just like his dad) that tries over the course of the story to become a good one. Just like he technically has to learn to communicate his feelings assertively in his relationship with Blitzo. How the writers approached the narrative is another thing, we also don’t know how it ends or what other plans they have for the characters. But on a “technical” level discussing if he is a bad father is akin to discussing if Blitzo has attachment issues or Moxxie has self-esteem problems.
He tries, that's more than what can be said of plenty of real fathers.
He’s A: there. B: trying his best. C: not actively being an arsehole. Beats plenty. Mine didn’t even make it past A.
No. He’s a great dad. He endured decades of abuse from a woman who never loved him just to try to give their daughter an ideal childhood. He only split up with Stella once Via was basically an adult. I think kids forget that their parents are more than their caregiver. Parents have their own interests, hobbies and love interests that have nothing to do with their kids. It’s hard for kids to see their parents date other people but they have to realize that their parents deserve happiness too. And despite Stolas’s interest in Blitzo, he always puts Via first. I sympathize with Via but Stolas is doing the best he can.
He’s not a horrible father by any means but he’s not the best. He’s trying though and I love him for that
He’s wish washy, it makes me uncomfortable how stolas is just so comfortable flirting with blitzø around his daughter especially after their very brutal divorce, but you can tell he cares about his daughter, he’s just a bit inconsiderate
I think he’s been in a sham marriage so long that he genuinely didn’t understand why that attitude would bother Octavia until she made it clear it made her uncomfortable. It’s still partly his fault of course, but I think that’s a big reason
I mean...some of his flirting is downright gross/nasty to be said in front of your kid.
Sure, but he live in hell and has a terrible home life and from what little we know, seemingly also a terrible upbringing. It’s quite possible he doesn’t know that. That’s part of what I think is still his fault, but it makes sense, even if it’s still a flaw
He was experiencing new feelings of intimacy and love he'd never felt before. Compare that with his lack of social awareness and it makes sense. They were both visibly uncomfortable, but he lacks the social awareness to pick up on it right away.
He’s trying, it’s just the overall situation he’s stuck in (divorcing Stella and stuff.) He’s not the greatest, but he’s doing his absolute best.
He’s a good father, it’s just his life keeps screwing him over on some occasions
he is by all means a good father. it’s just that his toxic relationship with Stella has a poor effect on Octavia.
The fact that Octavia still loves, cares, and talks to him shows he’s a great father regardless of all other factors. Hes doing his best, she clearly sees it.
He is being the best father he can be but his whole situation is making it real hard to be a perfect parent
By hell standards? He is ok
Hell no just because he was closeted and forced into a marrige he didnt want doesnt mean hes a bad dad. He loves octavia and she knows it
He tries.
not bad, but not great either. he has his good moments and he does care for his daughter but his life in general seems to get int he way of that and sometimes he'll let it.
Yes, I believe he is. Maybe if we were shown him interacting with his daughter more, I would think different, but based on the interactions we've seen, I don't think so. The problem might be more that Octavia is kind of excluded from the narrative, though. For example, we have never seen her interact with Stella, which is a fault to the writing instead of Stolas. Additionally, her reaction to Stolas being hospitalized was never shown. You'd think as his daughter, she would play a role in that plot point, but no. As for Stolas being a bad father, he openly flirts with the man who he's having an affair with in front of his daughter in Loo-Loo Land, and argues with Stella in front of Octavia, which a good parent should never do during a divorse. He's not the worst, he obviously loves his daughter, but yes, he is not a good father.
If she saw him in the hospital, how would he explain what happened? He doesn't badmouth Stella in front of her. Maybe he didn't want to make her upset with his injuries..
I'm sorry, but he definitely badmouths Stella in front of her. Remember him arguing with Stella on the phone in Seeing Stars (I think) where he called her a bitch in front of Octavia among other things. Also, she's his 17-year-old daughter and he had life-threatening injuries. She has a right to know.
I think Loona puts it best in the little chat with Octavia in Seeing Stars
He’s trying man, he’s trying his best
No. Sure he's not perfect or always at his best given his and Stella's arguing and divorce but he's trying his absolute best
Based on the few scenes we have seen of Stolas being a father when Octavia is young I'd say he's a fine father. Obviously situations have escalated and it also seems that Octavia doesn't completely resent him (more than a usual teenager) they still very much share a bond. Now has he messed up in recent times? Sure of course, what parent hasn't? But he's shown to run to her immediately the love there is obvious he just needs to come to terms with a lot of what is going on at the moment. But it's a season for him and it'll be a tough season but I wouldn't brand him a bad father just a caring one that's made a few questionable decisions in the past bit of time.
He does an incredible job for the hand life has dealt him
I think he clearly really loves Octavia and wants the best for her. He just doesn’t know how to be a good dad because his parents don’t even know his name. He also has an insane wife and hates his life. But i don’t think he’s a bad dad. He’s really trying.
No. By all standard he’s been a great father. His MARRIAGE was the problem. Arranged marriages don’t work unless they work together. Stella didn’t.
Kind of cause he argues w hos wife right infront of his child but other than that hes good
Nah. Not really. He trys his best.
Stolas is doing his best within a crappy situation, still trying to make time for his daughter
Bad, no, imperfect, yes.
I can see how he is and is not a good father. He's trying, but he needs to prioritize Via more. He gets too preoccupied in the other people around him on times he agreed to be with her. He thinks taking her to Loo Loo Land will get her mind off of the fighting he's having with her mom, but he of course chooses a place she says she's too old for and gets IMP to be their body guards just so he can flirt with Blitz. I'm not saying they would have gone long without them as they faced many instances where they were nearly killed by other imps, but he chose to be horny with Blitz instead of listening to how uncomfortable Via was with where they were. Seeing Stars might be trickier. Seeing the meteor shower together was planned for well over a decade. Stella moving out got in the way of him remembering that event. When Via does run off to the human realm and Blitz breaks the news of this, Stolas is obviously concerned and make it a point to rescue her. Problem is, Blitz is mistaken for a celebrity and when Stolas claims he's his agent, both of them are pulled away in the van to a sitcom recording neither of them can get out of. M&M make a career is Nashville which leave Loona to be the only one to look for her. With this said, Stolas is a flawed parent. He was forced to have her when he and Stella were practically teenagers. While Via is 17 at this point and is of course going to have to grow independence at some point, she will never age out of needing a parent in her life. Whether it be for any trouble she runs into that she cannot handle on her own or if she just needs a shoulder to cry on, that's why he needs to still be present in her life.
The only time I would say he really screwed up is in Loo Loo Land. The way he introduced Blitz to Via so soon after the affair like it was nothing and then flirted with him right in front of her was disturbing. I don't blame him for pursuing a relationship of his choosing, but it was way too soon for Via to meet Blitz, and he only made them both uncomfortable. He'll have major work to do to help Via come to terms with his new relationship after that. He clearly loves her, and she has been his only reason for staying strong the past 17 years. But he didn't have a good dad to show him what to do, he has no social support system, he was forced into a loveless marriage to someone he can't be attracted to who hates his guts, and his love life is in shambles with no prior opportunities to learn what a healthy relationship is. He's a victim of a neglectful upbringing, no interpersonal relationships and lifelong loneliness.
We've only really seen him let via down once and alot of shit was happening. The second he learned she was gon dude was ready to go ham to get her back. The worst thing hes seemingly done for her life is not get devorced sooner but that wasnt really annoption for him or didnt seem to be. She seems to care fo her father alot more than her mom who now is probably just using her as a tool to hurt him more
Stolas is not a bad person, he likes his daughter but not his wife.
He stayed with Stella as long as he did so that Octavia can have a whole family. The only bad things I've seen him do was take Loo Loo Land after she said she didn't want to, shamelessly flirting with Blitø in front of her, and forgetting about taking her to see the meteor shower.
He’s a “bad husband” (gay man in a straight/hetero relationship), but he’s doing his best to be a good father for his child all the same. I don’t see how that makes him bad just because he makes mistakes, *especially* being a first time parent and likely the *only* one even trying to interact with her as a parent anyways.
Stolas loves Octavia, but his situation is kinda messed up, so he tries to do his best.
Not sure why this is a question when it is directly covered in an episode. He is trying which is better than a lot but far from perfect. Also it is hell so good is relative.
Yes, but he doesn't want to be. But just because α parent feels bad doesn't make what they did excusable or any less traumatic for their children. For example, Stolas forgot about the date Via waited years for, she even hoped he would remember it through the divorce and arguments. All that toxicity and she still held out hope, when he crushed it he may not have done so intentionally, but he still hurt her. Both Stolas and Stella are toxic as hell to each other and Via
he's far from a good one. However he's not maliciously being neglectful.
I wouldn’t say he’s BAD father. He just has problems listening to his daughter and her wants when its contradicting his feelings. In LooLoo Land he took her to place she didn’t even want to go in hopes to get out of the house and away from Stella and brought HIS **BOOTY CALL** with him. Most the time he was flirting with Blitzø. Idk if “ignored” is the right word but he definitely didn’t make an effort to listen to her until the end. In Seeing Stars he essentially does the same thing. He chooses auguring with Stella rather than listening the his daughter. He wasn’t actively TRYING to shut down Octavia, just too preoccupied with his own personal life and wants. At least he put effort to fixing his wrongs and better understanding his daughter. So, he isn’t *bad* father just isn’t a great one either.
I don’t think he’s a bad father, he’s trying his best but he just has a lot going on.
I wouldn’t say he’s a good (as in competent) father, but definitely not a bad father either. He’s definitely a Bumbling Dad to Octavia, but definitely a loving one. Plus, keep in mind his Papa Wolf moments in “Loo Loo Land”, “Seeing Stars”, and “Western Energy”. And there’s the guilt he feels when he believes he’s unwittingly repeating Paimon’s example. Stolas is not the perfect parent, but literally nobody is.
No
He's not perfect and tikles my own daddy issues, therefore yes. /s
He’s not
He's trying his best. Like lucifer I wouldn't call him perfect but you can tell though his actions he truly cares and is trying
He has some boundary issues but beyond that he’s fine
Not the greatest but certainly trying to be there for his daughter. Which is more than some fathers can say.
He’s always been a great father!
I think he’s a very good father for the circumstances involved—given how he had his kid when he was still a kid, how miserable his marriage is, and the clear clinical depression involved. Those are the caveats though, looking at his behavior outside of that I’d say he’s…not bad? Slightly inappropriate and forgetful, but loving.
He’s not a BAD father, he’s just not being a very good father
I'd argue the only bad father is Moxxie's dad bc he literally kills people, is in the mafia, and kidnapped his married son to marry him off for money. Stolas and Blitzø actually care about their kids and try their best even if it doesn't pan out. They have their own trauma and issues going on but the genuinely care about their kids and are there for them when they need them (sometimes a little late but still). Paimon is definitely not a good dad but he has multiple kids he probably was forced to have given stolas's situation, not saying it's an excuse but at least he sort of tries? He took stolas to the circus when he was crying and paid to get him a friend. Sort of a "how could I ruin your life? I wasn't even there" situation.
Cash was a pretty horrible dad to Blitzo. Who sells their kid for $5 and a used condom, then uses their wife's health condition to turn their child into a thief?
He's not a great father but he's trying to be better
I mean… he’s not a great one? He’s trying, absolutely. But the way he’s handled his divorce in front of Octavia, bad. The way he’s steamrolled over her wishes when trying to do nice things for her (horny at loo loo land and forgetting then talking over her request to see the stars), not good. He’s not abusive but via is probably coming out of this with daddy issues
He tries his best to be good and that's all I can ask for.
In comparison to someone like Goku or maybe Luigi (if he becomes a father to Daisy’s future children) perhaps
He definitely is not, he’s trying his best to make his daughter happy, it was unexpected, but he still cares for her daughter, so she doesn’t become like her mother
He's a dad in a rough point in his life struggling with various things including his wife trying to have him killed. The fact that he still shows love and care for Octavia when he could easily push her away due to the fact that she might remind him of Stella whenever he looks at her proves he's trying despite the fact that everything is so fucked up for him. He's not a bad dad he's just a dad in a bad situation who's trying his best with his daughter whilst also trying to fix the life falling apart around him.
No he is not, his wife made him that way
He is good father. Not the best, but good.
He’s not the worst father, but there are moments where life really screwed him over.
Not the best role model, but he does love Octavia and tries to do right by her.
Not bad but he’s also not the best either.
Not bad but he’s also not the best either.
Not bad but he’s also not the best either.
Good father but not perfect.
Good father but not perfect.
nah he's a good dad
Good father but not perfect.
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What?! What kind of question is that?
He’s definitely NOT a good father, but there’s much WORSE out there. So I’d say he’s complex, and definitely not great. He’s definitely trying, but ultimately I think there’s things he’s more focused on when he shouldn’t be.
He's not perfect by any means, but he's making the most out of the situation. That makes him a good father in my opinion. He cares, and he lets her know that. He endured a torturous marriage filled with emotional abuse just to keep the family together. That's already a lot from someone who was forced into a marriage he did not want and likely never wanted children either.
Not bad but he’s also not the best either.
*slurp* Stella...
He is a caught in a tough situation, if stella wasn’t as much of a b!tch he may have been more involved.
It’s not his fault his wife is abusive
He’s well meaning, but a shit dad. Granted his wife wasn’t trying to make things easy, but neither of them try to hide the drama.
HELL NO STOLAS IS NOT A BAD FATHER STELLA IS A HORRIBLE MOTHER, Stolas is working all the time, he's constantly abused by Stella and he never gets truly loved by her not once has she loved him, it was forced and she treat Stolas like garbage. So no Stolas is not a bad father, it's Stella who is the worst parent.
From Octavia's perspective, discovering that her father, Stolas, cheated on her mother, Stella, with Blitzo, may have shattered her sense of family. Octavia's heartbreak is evident when she tells Stolas, "It doesn't feel like home anymore, you ruined it." Although Octavia may not fully understand her father's past or the complexities of adult relationships, the betrayal she feels is real. While Stella's abusive behavior likely played a role in Stolas's rekindled feelings for Blitzo, Stolas's decision to cheat cannot be justified. Despite the circumstances, infidelity is never the right course of action. But to conclude it, he isnt a bad nor great father, but at least, he cared about Octavia and her feelings, expect Stella. This is my opinion.
No. In fact I'd say he's a terrific father in a shit situation.
He's trying,but he's a tad bad I mean the episode where he goes to lulu land to be with Octavia is an improvement,but bringing blitzø doesn't make sense,I'm sure he has like a gazillion bodyguards I might be wrong about this but I'm trying to say that he gives too much time for blitzø instead of his daughter
Nah. He tries his hardest but it’s not like he exactly had the best fatherly figure. He endured a miserable marriage with someone who takes any opportunity to demean or insult him just so she could have something resembling a normal life. He’s just got a lot of emotional baggage and struggles with communicating the reason of the divorce to her.
Yes he is but not because he doesn't care
Not really. Of course, he's far from the best father ever— which is a given considering the family situation. His wife Stella is actively trying to kill him (though not by her own hands, of course). Still, he tries to be a good father, which is better than many (real or not) fathers. His heart is in the right place, at the very least. Now, by hell's standards, he's even pretty good. Crimson and Cash, to name a few, were horrible fathers respectively. Stolas' own father, Paimon, wasn't a good father. Typical ancient demon with too many kids to count (or name). Still better than the ones mentioned above, but he wasn't exactly a good example for Stolas. Finally, Stolas probably didn't want a kid to begin with— he was just expected to. Still, he probably came to love Octavia when she was here, which makes it all the more sweet.
Nah, he's not a bad father.
Idk, he really did loved her daughter
He’s not a bad father he’s just not sure how to be a good one
Not because of himself. Now, with Stella gone, he can actually shine. His love for Octavia is one of his best attributes.
From what we've seen the bar for decent parenting is on the ground in hell.
He's trying , but he's still not a good father
Not perfect since didn’t exactly have a great example but he is trying to
Yes, yes he is. He's not a *malicious* father, and he clearly cares about Via, but that's not enough to not be a bad father. He doesn't know his daughter at all, treats her like a child, flirts with his affair partner in front of her on a day that was supposed to be hers, and, as Via says, prioritizes his issues with Stella over his relationship with Via.
Media literacy is dead, that aside he’s a great father in a shit situation. Anything that “makes him bad” is in response to Stella’s abuse
Through the course of the show, we see him becoming aware of his foibles as a father, trying to better connect and mend ties with Octavia….with mixed results. We also see him struggle to balance this effort with his attempt to indulge and improve his rollercoaster relationship/infatuation with Blitz. He’s a flawed parent, but he’s self aware and trying. He’s certainly not malicious or intentionally abusive…he does have a genuine care for his daughter, he just struggles to understand and connect with her.
He is because in season two ep 1 he told Stella the reason why he endured Stella’s constant insults and cruelty was for Octavia to have a better life he did all that just so that she can have a different life not the one he has with Stella sure it may look like he wasn’t a good father but I think he is since he really loves octavia he tried to make her happy again(in loo loo land ) but realize that he made it worse and he told her he won’t run off with blitz so that he won’t leave her behind
Not bad, just incompetent
Yes… He loves Via but he puts his wants before her. He took her to Loo Loo land but his bf has to come with him when she clearly is angry about that. Not to mention that stolas absolutely does not need Blitzos help he can turn people to stone he just wanted his plaything to tag along. Striker would probably be a better father. Yes he’d be classist but he’d teach self protection, horse riding, farming animal care. The only downside is he has a dangerous job.
He is neglectful, which is bad in itself, he is mot abusive but he has so much shit going on that he ended up neglecting Octavia's wants, he yells and gets yelled more than he has a moment with her, i imagine that their divorce is gonna be an absolute net positive for their relationship, but ultimately neglecting is a bad quality in parenting. I see parallels with another bird person who was an amazing dad but only when he remember to focus on their kids. Critical Role's Cerrit Agrupnin from EXU Calamity, a dnd character. A bird detective who was so focused on his job and his position that it took the fucking apocalypse for him to figure out who his children were, and that is not even cause he was a bad dad, because as soon as shit hit the fan his children were the priority, but a special event finally showing you the father you could be does not erase that it was the father that you weren't until now.
No, he’s very good
I don't think he is, but the hand he's working with isn't good.
No. He isn't. He has an emotionally abusive wife who spent decades torturing him. He's literally the only person in photos with her and the mom is making the split as violent as possible.
Kinda honestly, he’s definitely not good at least. I still love him though
At first, no Then...
A father trying to be good, terrible husband. Granted his wife is a bitch but technically he is a terrible husband.
from what we have been shown as the audience, no i don’t not think stolas is a bad father. he cares for octavia very deeply, more than he even loved blitzo. we see that he was born into a position where he was never able to make choices for himself. but he clearly loves octavia and wants the best for her, he just doesn’t seem to know what that is himself. but he doesn’t push a lot of the royal shit that he endured onto octavia. he seems to let her do and be who she is. i’m sure octavia’s perspective of her father is different from the audience, but coming from the daughter of a father who tried his best despite the circumstances, it’s hard to keep hating him as you age and start to understand the why’s of situations.
I feel like people are confusing effort with being good at something here. He is definitely trying. But I could pick up a guitar and try as hard as I can to play a song and I’d be shit at it. Because I don’t know how to play the guitar. He clearly loves his daughter and *wants* to be a good father, but he’s not quite there yet.
Not really. Just flawed. At least he tries to fix his mistakes.
He is not but he has his own issues. He tries to do his best for Octavia but his life and the fact of being a Goetia get in the way.
I think fucking Blitzø was a debatable play by him given the affects and the outbreak of arguing it caused. Otherwise, he's spectacular
He's not a good dad. But he's trying. Sometimes, trying isn't enough. He's got his priorities mixed up, but he's working on himself. Once he gets himself figured out, he and Octavia will be okay. Or on the mend.
Unclear - his behavior in the Loo Loo land was really reprehensible; playing it off as father-daughter bonding but really just trying to fck his body guard (Blitz) the whole time in front of his daughter who is already caught between extremely hostile parents who are embattled because of Stolas’ same relationship with Blitz. But then he seems to improve later in the show? So I’m not sure if Vivz was still trying to figure out how to write their relationship
He obviously truly loves and wants the best for Octavia, but dude is VERY immature. Also, I really wouldn’t appreciate how weird he is with Blitzo - in front of her! - if I was Octavia. It does sometimes feel like his obsession with Blitzo sometimes overcrowds his rational brain, and Octavia suffers for it.
well, the only thing that sets him apart from all the other shit fathers is that he actually tries to be a dad, but his life is so terrible it’s hard for him
nah not really
# No.
I just think he was very young when he had Via and didn't really have time to grow up lol, so he can pretty immature sometimes, but he's trying
I mean. Depends what your definition of a bad father is. He csn be a little selfish and forgetful at times. But at least he appologizes when he realizes his mistake, tries to be better and genuenly loves Via. Thats more than a lot of people do.
I think stolas is an amazing father. he’s just dealing with all the bullshitery that surrounds him. as loona says “everyone has problems, especially Dads, but they’re trying their best”
While it is evident that he loves Via, his actions thus far give the impression that she is not his primary focus. Despite the urgency of finding Via after she ran away due to his previous actions and him having the capability to extricate himself from the TV studio without relying on his book he opted to watch Blitzø tell jokes for hours, unaware of the potential danger his young daughter might be facing. Although he claimed he would never abandon Via for Blitzø, his actions seem to contradict his words.
he tries his best, and frankly id prefer him over my current father
He’s trying to be a good father but is making it very difficult
Oh, he's by no means a bad father or a bad husband. Cuz, considering how long he managed to tolerate, stella BS tells you how dedicated he was.
Yes. Yes he is a horrible father and a horrible partner to both Stella AND Blitz (And debatably a bad character too)
Yes, as much as people like him, he sucks trying doesn't equal success he ruined her home life for years to the point where he doesn't even know what she likes or what she finds fun then. When he actually tries getting to know her, he invites his fling over and openly flirts with him, then promises to be better to then forget about her again. he's not paimon or Crimson, but he still is a bad father.