Extra Context:
It was made very clear by Parliament that by signing the Declaration of Independence all signatories were to be officially labeled as rebels within the Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and would be subject to execution when captured.
TLDR: If they lost the war they would’ve got the 1916 treatment
He means the 1916 treatment for Ireland. The Easter rising happened as during the Great War, local leaders wanted independence, and they got hung as traitors after it failed.
Shot as traitors*
Was counterintuitive in the end; they sent all the minor leaders of the Rising off to Frongoch and executed the rest. The executions made those left in Frongoch incredibly popular among the people, and when they were released they almost immediately set up the Dáil and started the War of Independence.
And if they’d just thrown the rebel leaders in jail, Ireland might still be part of the UK (or at least, they would have remained part of the UK for longer than they did).
It's never not morbidly funny how UK and France pride themselves as champions of liberty and freedom despite doing horrible authoritarian shitholes. The hipocrisy is just astonishingly loud.
The representatives of New York were present but did not sign because they had yet to receive instructions from Albany in either direction, so they sat it out
Just to clarify, was this for the declaration itself, or for the Lee resolution (which we should all be celebrating on the 2nd with pomp and parades in my humble opinion)?
John Adams's resolution in May directing colonial governments to create new governments to replace their colonial charters was even more critical to putting them on the course to independence. Though two colonies (New Hampshire and Rhode Island) had already declared independence prior to that.
Extra Context: It was made very clear by Parliament that by signing the Declaration of Independence all signatories were to be officially labeled as rebels within the Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and would be subject to execution when captured. TLDR: If they lost the war they would’ve got the 1916 treatment
What would be the 1916 treatment if I may be so bold?
He means the 1916 treatment for Ireland. The Easter rising happened as during the Great War, local leaders wanted independence, and they got hung as traitors after it failed.
Shot as traitors* Was counterintuitive in the end; they sent all the minor leaders of the Rising off to Frongoch and executed the rest. The executions made those left in Frongoch incredibly popular among the people, and when they were released they almost immediately set up the Dáil and started the War of Independence.
And if they’d just thrown the rebel leaders in jail, Ireland might still be part of the UK (or at least, they would have remained part of the UK for longer than they did).
Mup the ra
It's never not morbidly funny how UK and France pride themselves as champions of liberty and freedom despite doing horrible authoritarian shitholes. The hipocrisy is just astonishingly loud.
James Connery should have a national holiday
Connolly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly
He meant Sean Connery, the IRA's political party
He meant Sean Connelly the footballer.
They meant Billy Connelly, the Irish actor and comedian.
Sorry, autocorrect
BTW who didn't show up?
The representatives of New York were present but did not sign because they had yet to receive instructions from Albany in either direction, so they sat it out
So what you're saying is...New Yorkers aren't American
Oh they eventually did, it just took them 5 days longer. It was July 9th that New York finally got around to approving the Declaration of Independence
New York abstained, courteously
I understood that reference!
Sit Down John!
I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, that two are called a law firm, and that three or more beome a congress
The New York congress hadn't voted on the issue yet and so their delegates abstained. They later did vote for independence.
Georgia
Just to clarify, was this for the declaration itself, or for the Lee resolution (which we should all be celebrating on the 2nd with pomp and parades in my humble opinion)?
John Adams's resolution in May directing colonial governments to create new governments to replace their colonial charters was even more critical to putting them on the course to independence. Though two colonies (New Hampshire and Rhode Island) had already declared independence prior to that.
I sense a rabbit hole I'm going down tomorrow. None of this is known to me.
John Hancock: 🗿
Franklin: I'm not leaving my signatories hanging, you know?
New York abstains, courteously.
They literally signed their own death warrant
who abstended.
They have officially entered the "Find Out" portion of the event.