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MadRonnie97

Extra Context: It was made very clear by Parliament that by signing the Declaration of Independence all signatories were to be officially labeled as rebels within the Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and would be subject to execution when captured. TLDR: If they lost the war they would’ve got the 1916 treatment


MageofSpaceGhost

What would be the 1916 treatment if I may be so bold?


LCPLOwen

He means the 1916 treatment for Ireland. The Easter rising happened as during the Great War, local leaders wanted independence, and they got hung as traitors after it failed.


HeatedToaster123

Shot as traitors* Was counterintuitive in the end; they sent all the minor leaders of the Rising off to Frongoch and executed the rest. The executions made those left in Frongoch incredibly popular among the people, and when they were released they almost immediately set up the Dáil and started the War of Independence.


EternalAngst23

And if they’d just thrown the rebel leaders in jail, Ireland might still be part of the UK (or at least, they would have remained part of the UK for longer than they did).


Flying_Column

Mup the ra


zrxta

It's never not morbidly funny how UK and France pride themselves as champions of liberty and freedom despite doing horrible authoritarian shitholes. The hipocrisy is just astonishingly loud.


HenryofSkalitz1

James Connery should have a national holiday


gabe_

Connolly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Connolly


ShakaUVM

He meant Sean Connery, the IRA's political party


worrymon

He meant Sean Connelly the footballer.


dwehlen

They meant Billy Connelly, the Irish actor and comedian.


HenryofSkalitz1

Sorry, autocorrect


Gman-343

BTW who didn't show up?


Birb-Person

The representatives of New York were present but did not sign because they had yet to receive instructions from Albany in either direction, so they sat it out


SensitiveSharkk

So what you're saying is...New Yorkers aren't American


Birb-Person

Oh they eventually did, it just took them 5 days longer. It was July 9th that New York finally got around to approving the Declaration of Independence


Matthicus

New York abstained, courteously


ycpa68

I understood that reference!


CNagle98

Sit Down John!


Matthicus

I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, that two are called a law firm, and that three or more beome a congress


nagrom7

The New York congress hadn't voted on the issue yet and so their delegates abstained. They later did vote for independence.


ZachoLong

Georgia


Fast_Personality4035

Just to clarify, was this for the declaration itself, or for the Lee resolution (which we should all be celebrating on the 2nd with pomp and parades in my humble opinion)?


monjoe

John Adams's resolution in May directing colonial governments to create new governments to replace their colonial charters was even more critical to putting them on the course to independence. Though two colonies (New Hampshire and Rhode Island) had already declared independence prior to that.


dwehlen

I sense a rabbit hole I'm going down tomorrow. None of this is known to me.


Medium_Escape_8969

John Hancock: 🗿


TheHistoryMaster2520

Franklin: I'm not leaving my signatories hanging, you know?


checkm8_lincolnites

New York abstains, courteously.


Chodeman_1

They literally signed their own death warrant


dutch_mapping_empire

who abstended.


Patton1945_41

They have officially entered the "Find Out" portion of the event.