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lastchickencooking

Who cares about accuracy? I want this in my history books.


OverlordMarkus

Honestly, this might be more valuable than what passes for history in some books.


TigerBasket

Historia Augusta could be replaced by goth women calling me pretty and it would be fantastic tbh.


Vinny_Lam

I would’ve paid more attention in history class.


EldritchTapeworm

Well then to be fair, they'll all be 250 lbs


Momongus-

The West has fallen…Millions must thirst for women in fishnet and thick mascara


Mesarthim1349

😔 (😀)


deltree711

https://i.postimg.cc/3rnQpPWj/f7cb938876f0aabb073738b20f8cab4f.png


Biosterous

Way less usage for this meme but holy shit does it hit right!


Lukthar123

It will be done, my lord.


TheLesserWeeviI

Oh, the humanity.


Razorion21

Including other women?


Momongus-

The destruction of the West and its consequences is not men-only, so yes.


MyNameIsTerrence

Absolutely Not ✝️


no_________________e

Counterpoint: Gothic architecture


MyNameIsTerrence

Do you have any designs I may see?


no_________________e

Notre Dame


MyNameIsTerrence

Incorrect Gothic, But good effort :).


no_________________e

How is there a right gothic?


MyNameIsTerrence

There is not… However, the Gothic you are referring to is actually Gothic Christianity, ergo your innate and intuitive reference to Notre Dame. I do not know what the Gothics of our civilisation are designing and planning. I would like to.


no_________________e

They are the same gothics. The goths will build using gothic architecture.


MyNameIsTerrence

Thank you. I Now Know to continue to steel and reinforce my faith in Him. May we one day walk the earth with love and kindness. Until Then, I wish you good luck. For God is our shield, saving those whose hearts are true and right. Amen ✝️


LeviathansWrath6

Absolutely yes 🤤


anonandonitgoesagain

I constantly worry about the invisigoths. How would you know?


Alldaybagpipes

Shhhhh, they’ll hear you…


Chipdip049

They are especially bad since they are invisible


Z3t4

[Visigoth kings powerlist....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnX9EKu5EKk)


albertowtf

This video bothers me a lot... Once you are dead, you cant kill anybody else in front of you It should play backwards, after you kill sombody, then you are killed too


Z3t4

Makes sense, and they did sing the list in chronological order (Skipping some): https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Reyes_visigodos


BadDudes_on_nes

Stupid sexy goths (Homer’s voice)


ThatKriegsGuard

The Greek, the Roman or the Springfieldian?


Mijardinprimitivo

Yes.


Echophonie

Who is the Roman Homer ?


ThatKriegsGuard

A poet circa 3rd BC century, Homerus of Byzantium, technically not yet a Roman city, but it was for the joke so...


Echophonie

K, thanks


BringBackForChan

No seriously, why are goth people called goths?


No-Fan6115

Andalusian historian ibn jabari couldn't properly pronounce "Got them (Romans)" so he said gothes which later was wrote as goths by Ottomans.


BringBackForChan

Interesting, but I meant *today* 's goths


Eldan985

"Gothic" originally meant "barbaric", because they sacked Rome. In the late middle ages, a new architecture style emerged, which moved away from the Roman and Romanesque ideas of aesthetics with simple round arches, big pillars, clean lines, simple decorations, etc. This much more decorative and architecturally complex style was called "gothic" as an insult, it's the gaudy barbarian style of architecture. That's where we get Gothic churches. *After* the middle ages, Gothic was the architecture style before the Renaissance, so it came to mean "medieval". And when in the 19th century, people wrote horror novels, they liked setting them in crumbling medieval churches and castles, so it became known as "Gothic literature". From there, we get the meaning of "Gothic" as "horror" and eventually, when we came up with creature movies and so on, "old-fashioned horror". Which became an aesthetic all of its own, hence the Goth subculture.


ulfric_stormcloack

Small domino "rome gets sacked" Big domino "I'm getting pegged"


The_Failed_Write

Time to sack Rome again! For the big domino...


No-Fan6115

"At the beginning of the 1980s, one band jokingly labelled the newly emerging movement “gothic”, and so it changed from a label for a few bands to a label for a movement" google


ssspainesss

It is from the medieval architectural style which is called "gothic". As a reaction to industrialization people started romanticizing the middle ages (in fact they were literally called the "romantic" art movement, some of the people who did were the friends of Mary Shelley who wrote Frankenstein when she and her friends all decided to write spooky stories while they were all living in an old castle during the Year without Summer when it was dark and rainy all the time because a massive volcano erupted. Anyway this kickstarted the horror genre and the "goth aesthetic" was created by modern over a century later to describe how it must have felt to be in castle with the people who lived in it in that dark rainy time where they were telling spooky stories. As such there was an entire aesthetic emerged around the medieval architecture style the invoked darkness and horror and it was labelled "gothic" because it was believed that the medieval architecture was constructed by the invading Goths who had conquered the Roman empire which was contrasted with the earlier Classical Architecture style with the Roman columns and stuff. When people starting looking back at the old classical roman and greek works they tended to disregarded the "gothic" architecture style by giving it that name as if to say it was lower that the Classical architecture style (which seems odd considered the Gothic cathedrals seem to be technically more impressive that Classical temples, additionally it isn't entirely clear if it was the Goths themselves who influenced things to be different or if the "roman" people themselves just changed over time) due to the fact that it emerged after the fall of the roman empire so it must have been a "fall" in quality, and so there was a revival in what is now called "neo-classical" architecture which can see on the US Capitol Building and White House as the Founding Fathers were big fans of the classics. With the Industrial Revolution however people were beginning to question if maybe people had taken things too far in the pursuit of technological progress which is what Frankenstein was about, and so there was a revival in interest in that old Gothic architecture that had been scorned by people who thought Roman stuff was better so you ended up with Gothic Revival architecture in the Victorian Era defined by industrialization, which is odd since it was created largely in reaction to that process. While the year without summer had been caused by a volcano, the smoke stacks of industrialization created a bit of a permanent darkness like what might have existed in China before they got around to trying to improve air quality, and so you still ended up with the same darkness around the Victorian Gothic architecture so the association stuck. Later on a subculture of people who liked to dress in a dark fashion with makeup emerged that people decided to call themselves "Goths" I'm guessing because they were horror fiction fans who created an aesthetic around what they assumed the people writing it in that environment must have looked like. It was kind of looked upon as a bit strange at the time, but over time it sort of just morphed into being pale with dark hair which some people find to be an attractive look, and people call it Goth even if it has nothing to do with being a horror fiction fan any more. Then people have begun retroactively connecting this back to the original Gothic barbarians because it is humorous considering that after being so many steps removed over the ages they no longer have anything to do with each other despite having the same name.


Dutch_AtheistMapping

Goths invade Rome > they found some medieval kingdoms and build some castles and churches in their unique style > gothic style architecture later gets seen as kind of dark and creepy > goth starts being a term for dark and creepy > modern goths


TheMadTargaryen

it's not exactly their style. Gothic based kingdoms like those of Ostrogoths and Visigoths were long gone before gothic architecture was invented. This is an actual Visigoth church in Portugal : [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel\_of\_S%C3%A3o\_Frutuoso](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel_of_S%C3%A3o_Frutuoso)


ivanjean

Also, there's no real distinct gothic style of architecture. After settling in the empire (the visigoths did in 387, even before what we call the fall of Rome), they adopted a lot of Roman culture, so these buildings closely follow roman architecture.


Wizardc438

It's a different meaning. With "Goths" as in modern goths we interpret the word "gothic" as a term describing something dark, mysterious, scary. There is no real connection to the actual historical People of the Goths.


steampunkradio

It’s a term that does have its roots in that connection: the first architectural style to develop after the fall of the roman empire was very much inspired by roman classical buildings. The romanesque style is characterized by its sturdy collumns, thick walls and rather modest heights and design. The style that followed, however, broke with that convention, introducing tall spires, pointed arches and elaborate tracery. Detractors of this style would call it gothic as opposed to Roman, in reference to the Germanic tribes that caused the empire’s fall. When 18th and 19th century authors would use these buildings as the setting of their scary stories, they would be called gothic novels. The scary aesthetic would than later by adopted by the goths we all know and love today.


JellyfishGod

What's hilarious is this comment reads like one of those shit post comments that just links a bunch of bullshit together in a totally plausible and realistic sounding way only to end with the undertaker slamming someone or the lochness monster asking for $3.50.


ivanjean

Just to add to your explanation: the denomination of this architecture as "gothic" doesn't come from the time it was made, but from Renaissance, by those ambitious to revive the architecture of classical antiquity (an irony, since this style could also be described as an evolution of Roman architecture). The architecture's contemporary name was opus Francigenum (french work), because it originated in France.


RiftHunter4

Somewhere out there is a goth who is descended from actual goths. We must find them.


ekkostone

I doubt there's a single white person who doesn't have a goth ancestor. The goths probably came from Scandinavia and migrated through both eastern and western Europe. So yeah, it won't be hard to find a gothic goth.


ssspainesss

There were apparently still Goths living in Crimea in the 18th century (although they could have been some totally unrelated group as the account merely depicts them as having been different than the other identified groups in the region which leads to the assumption that they were probably the Goths, actual lists of Crimea Gothic words come from the guy who spread Tulips at the end of the 16th century). The last people to actively search for them were the amusingly the Germans in World War 2 who were like "hey Goths are Germanic and Goths were living in Crimea, that means Crimea belongs to Germany", although I don't think they looked very hard and were just thinking about resettling the area by Germans who would have likely have been Saxons, Alemanni, or Franks rather than specifically Goths. I don't really think the Goths can be considered "Germans" any more than the Anglo-Saxons could be, as they are both a highly specific type of Germanic people that headed off on their own way and became their own nation. The descendants of these Crimean Goths are likely Crimean Greeks or Crimean Tatars as I suspect they would have assimilated into those societies when they were under the rule of the Byzantines or Crimean Khanate. >According to the Soviet ethnologist V. E. Vozgrin, the [Goths](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths) interbred with the [Crimean Tatars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars) and converted to Islam. In *The Crimean Tatars: the diaspora experience and the forging of a nation* by [Brian Glyn Williams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Glyn_Williams), he quotes Vozgrin as saying: "In all probability their descendants are the [Tatars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars) of a series of villages in the [Crimea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea) who are sharply delineated from the inhabitants of neighboring villages by their tall height and other features characteristic of the [Scandinavians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia)." So they are probably one of those white muslims from russia who you would never know are muslim because they just act like everybody else.


DiMaSiVe

You've got many incomplete answers. The 'pipeline' would be: goth tribe -> goth architecture -> goth music -> goth dressing style. Goth architecture is just the late evolution of the roman style. It does NOT derive from innovations from the germanic invaders. 'Gothic' in this case was a pejorative for the rough and barbaric vibe the rinascimental architects got from it. They were much more into the clean classic style. The goths had been absorbed in other nations for centuries at this point The goth music is a branch of punk music. It was called gothic because like the architectural style it wanted to be misterious, drammatic and a bit macabre The goth dressing style is what best suites that type of music PS: sources: * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth\_subculture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture) * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic\_architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture) * my understanding


awawe

In the high middle ages, when western Europe started moving away from imitating the Roman Empire, in the form of romanesque architecture, and develop its own identity, people who pushed back against this change started calling the new designs "gothic", in reference to the Germanic tribes that sacked Rome. This new gothic style featured a lot of grotesque gargoyles and skulls, and was generally somewhat morbid. Therefore the word gothic became associated with dark and somewhat spooky motifs.


abadlypickedname

Yeah that's great and all, but where are the goth men?


Alkynesofchemistry

These are the visigoths, the men are invisigoths


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eat-pussy69

No those are hivisigoths


Isgrimnur

[Like so](https://twitter.com/Deermoder/status/1413282654913404929)


insane_contin

Out of picture are the pastelgoths.


DoctorTarsus

Plot twist: those are the men


JamesJe13

excellent


hikoboshi_sama

Flair checks out


Swolnerman

-Mr burns


Blood_Lacrima

I see it as an absolute win


SnideFarter

Oh oh oh, Doctor Tarsus.


TheNinjaSausage

Beat me to it


Bonnskij

It's true you don't see many goth men. And in fact they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for goth women.


7arco7

So much so that some believe that there are no goth men and that goths simply spring out of Hot Topic! Which is of course ridiculous.


Unlucky-2nd

*whispers It's the outfit.


Pepega_9

Bottom right possibly.


HolyGhost79

Oh, they are bottom alright


TheNinjaSausage

Plot twist: those are the men


DonRomantico27

Goths sacked Rome by clapping Roman cheeks!


real_hungarian

pegging


Teutiaplus

I feel so conflicted On one hand, the glory of rome, on the other hand, tearing down an imperialistic regime with a bunch of goth girls


Chipdip049

I am mentally having a civil war right now.


StellarCracker

Real


Joemama_69-420

The Emperor: No fucking way


MildlyAgreeable

Sir, what does the Horus Heresy have to do with hot goth girls riding a Roman gimp?


Interne-Stranger

Everything.


QuerchiGaming

Can you really blame the Romans though?


Argh_farts_

Look at the roman in the left... It should have been me!!!


Fake_Fur

Where's the sequel pic Roman ladies get kidnapped and forced to dress like the Goths!?


Firegloom

Credit to artist?


jaytix1

Did some searching. The artist is psicochurroz.


Vaccinate_your_kids2

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! NOT HIM!


DataSittingAlone

I would do anything to trade places with the guy on the left


BelphagorOfSloth

I wish I was sacked by some Goths


Xboxer360

The artist is “psicochurroz”. X/Twitter: https://x.com/psicochurroz?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psicochurroz/?hl=en


ClavicusLittleGift4U

Then was written *Lucretia My Reflection* by Anderos Eldritichus, chronicist and monk of the Order of The Sisters of Mercy. >I hear the sons of the city and dispossessed Get down Get undressed Get pretty but you and me We got the kingdom We got the key We got the empire Now as then We don't doubt We don't take direction Lucretia My reflection Dance the ghost with me


Edna_thecook

Where hot gay sex


Yendrian

Get this man some hot gay sex


Bartin1302

Yeet him to ancient Greece


SpanishInquisition88

Say Gex


TheRagingTaxi

Does anyone know the artist? Would love a print of this


Xboxer360

“Psicochurroz” is the artist, you can find them on X and Insta


TheRagingTaxi

Cheers la, I appreciate it


jaytix1

The artist is psicochurroz.


Creative-Claire

I love history


Heytherechampion

We’re on the wrong timeline


Anonzzmo

this post invokes a certain… feeling


Mythosaurus

Well now we know which Roman citizen opened the gates for them (left side of the pic)


kingpin_98

not the centurion in a ballgag


waltjrimmer

They raved the city to the ground. Their tribal war musics were haunting with their, "Boomchickaboomchikaboom!"


SussusAm0gus

And then nearly 1700 years later they love rome. Crazy


Cringe_Meister_

The original illustration is much sexier. They're buff naked dudes with them beefy gyatt cakes 🥵🥵🥵🥵


Madam_KayC

What's going on with that Roman in the corner?


Windexifier

How did you get an image from my dreams?


Skottie1

https://x.com/psicochurroz/status/1646159924471136257


DJ_hyperfreshOG

I can’t believe they copied persona.


SirPelleas

This is a joke that keeps being retold, but I still love every single time


Level_Hour6480

Repost, but a good one.


yellow-snowslide

Everybody forgets about the male goths :(


King_ofwar

NO NO NOOOO ROME WILL NEVER FALL


Interne-Stranger

The kidnapped one of us!


Ill-Philosophy3945

Average Redditor: “sack me next?”


Archaeopteryx11

Begone! ☦️☦️☦️


Reazionario

please keep sacking Italy


FeralX_Stock

So much cale


elmartin93

I for one welcome our new Gothic overladies


664mezcal619

Rome wasn’t built in a day…but I’ll ruin my life in one and be happy while doing it.


TheCarloHarlo

Ah, to be in Rome in 411...


RtsSlovakiaYoutube

This is reason why we need time machine


Brick-Thrower

Oh you KNOW I’m surrendering


ARC-55555

I don't know why, but I find this very funny.


diludeau

This would be the only way I’d have any interest in visiting Rome.


FartPiano

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Marsrover112

They can sack me next


Seahawk124

I could fix them.


TurnBackOnYourSteps

Jokes aside the Ostrogoth kingdom was going great at the time, well, before someone in the east messed it all up! I know that Rome was sacked by the Visigoths don't worry, i just wanted to express some appreciation for the Ostrogoths


Wboys

I’m that Roman soldier in the bottom left


Shplerm

Lucky Roman in the back


Puzzled_Ad_7846

Post smth with goth girls and it gets 13k upvotes


TNTtheBaconBoi

A war still lingers, and I don't like the feel of it...


Gamer_Bishie

Should’ve been buffer.


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Don_Madruga

Yeah, so, eh it would be much better if they where, eh, like, like the original image, you know... Naked. For the sake of accuracy, obviously, no other reason.


GoojiiBean100

A little confused but still got the spirit


Responsible-Bat-2699

Sudden urge to get "Sacked".


The__Nosk

Lol.


Mrtayto115

The goth kids from south park started the sack.


Milanga48

Wtf is this bruh


AnyListen3898

Hahaha


SirD_ragon

And then one of them has the statues head drop on theirs making them a vegetable Pottery


EchoTitanium

Not those goths idiot. But it’s fun so who cares…


derpinub

🤓☝️


SashaTheWitch2

I genuinely love when people deride others as dumb WHILE failing to understand an extremely simple and obvious joke or concept


Fun-Lavishness-5155

It’s obvious EchoTitanium is joking and using the word “idiot” endearingly


EchoTitanium

I didn’t mean to insult anyone. When your friend calls you a moron and laughs, do you take it to hearth ?