Don't know what he meant, but I had classmates from turkey in high school. They were all huge Erdogan fans, believed that Allah created the earth, the Armenian genocide didn't happen and so on. It was honestly frightening.
They were probably there because they were children of Erdoğan supporters and/or studied at islamic schools. (Imagine catholic schools but muslim).
It's really hard to get abroad when you are from opposition if you aren't rich or don't have family outside the country.
Most young people despise Erdoğan. Beliefs that are not religions(ateism deism etc.) are getting popular because of Erdoğan's policies. There's also increasing nationalism and even racism because of Erdoğan's religion based immigration policies.
That explains a lot. The Turks who went to Europe to work were rednecks of Turkey. Since they were in foreign lands it was easy for Islamist groups to turn them into religious patriots. They have no f'in idea what is going on Turkey except visiting the country like a tourist every few years.
They are also hated in Turkey if they support Erdoğan. You can finds tons of videos of "gurbetçi dayı's" talking how Europe is a shithole, there's no food on market shelves, Turkey is a heaven etc. etc. (yes this is literally what they say). And then getting yelled at for lying by young people.
Younger "gurbetçiler" either don't care about Turkey and are secular or religious fanatics that don't know about Turkey at all.
They want sharia in Turkey, vote for right wing parties here but live in secular Germany and vote for left wing parties. Most of them are the definition of hypocrits.
-Believe Allah created the earth
Weird that they say it. Like they are muslims or something
-Huge Erdogen Fans
As a Turk:He can go to cehennem
-The Armenian Genocide didn't happen
WTF? I get when people say it as a joke
These guys are the Definition of a nationalist Turk
Mmm religious people are not exclusive to Turkey. Even the Armenian archives are closed to the public for the events. However, supporting Erdogan is a big red flag.
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Usually Turkish people outside of Turkey supports Erdogan more than Turkish people in Turkey. We don't like them either. They usually cannot adopt to the culture of the country they live in or Turkey's culture.
>I had classmates from turkey in high school. They were all huge Erdogan fans,
WTF dude I am a türk and I can say that only imam hatip high schools (catholic schools of turkey with endless political shit going at backstages) can have students that SUPPORT Erdoğan, every other one just hates his guts.
They probably just not wanted to seem like ''rebels'' (I hope)
>believed that Allah created the earth, the Armenian genocide didn't happen and so on.
most of türks just SAY that they believe in Allah but are either atheists or really REALLY fanatic about religion and even if they really believe that ''Allah created the Earth'' it's not much different than ''Jesus/God/Aliens/Cthulhu/Alien-x created Earth''
fun fact: ''Allah'' is just arabic word for ''God''
before you guys ask''why do you hate him?'' basicly: He screwed economy, school system, Politics, public order etc.
AND ARMENIAN GENOCIDE DIDN'T HAPPEN YOU MORONS >:(
I also do agree that extremist thoughts are “frightening” BUT the point about finding their faith frightening is extremely odd. Well from your username I’m assuming that you are German and I genuinely do think that Germans are just as religous. You do realise that Allah = God, right? I’m not a person of faith, and haven’t been one for the last decade and still I don’t see a problem with someone believing in their religion :/ I mean people have been celebrating Jesus’s ascension etc. for the past two weeks lmao. If I were to be frightened, I think people believing in a dead man rising from dead saying peace out and the flying up to the sky to meet with his father (god) would be more frightening. Also, Armenian people did die for sure but I also do think the term genocide is debatable under the circumstances of the war. Ottoman Empire didn’t have the military power to assign troops to exterminate people. And I believe as long as it is not an action of the state it is not considered a genocide. People most definitely killed each other tho. Huge losses on both sides :/
Everyone should believe whatever they want, what's frightening is if these beliefs are more important than facts and science. I have also no idea how you arrived at the conclusion that it is their faith I find frightening.
>since most of their veterans really only knows how to kill unarmed civilians
Lol wtf are you talking about and here I was trying to honestly read and understand, just fuckin racist
>My bad you and history don't get along lol
I was rather referring to your racist remarks, dehumanizing, branding Turks as "not a people" and using slanders such as "they shoot unarmed people" by your so called "experiences" with them.
Ask him how he feels about Christians period. If he turns out to be an Islamic Nationalist and genocide denier start singing the Kurdish national anthem.
Lmao this is comedy gold. You can't even refrain from using "casus belli".
All jokes aside, it's good that you did away with the false pretences and expressed yourself in a clear and public manner.
I was reading the comment thread with bated breath, hoping, that maybe you had a good argument... and then you go and say the quiet part out loud.
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Should've spun it around a little while longer. That wasn't fun at all.
Well I do accept it, but I only accept the actual mistakes in it. (The wrong things that was really done) but I reject the things we didn't do. That's simple.
Germany vs Turkey thing is not a correct analogy imo. Hitler did get elected through manipulation or mirroring. And it was like an organized hate stuff, branding Jews as enemy of state, raiding their shops, brainwashing efforts etc. Therefore german ppl are accountable of it. But those did not happen with ottoman empire. It was a monarchy. And there was no widespread Goebbels level stuff, racial tensions erupted, both sides got angry but then racist Young Turks' generals did what they did. Why should you hold 80 m ppl accountable for that? What is the average Turkish guys fault in this tragedy?
I have extensively read and heard Taner Akçams "works". He is an utter turkophobe and spitting nonsense.
He claimed Prima Nocta existed among Anatolia cultures among Turks and Kurds in history. ( https://mobile.twitter.com/RecepMarasl/status/1388154450725031938 ) Try translating the page and video.
Below this is an accepted work of authority about Prima Nocte. Try finding PDF version of it and search for Turkey, Anatolia, Kurds in the book, if you can find it.
(https://www.amazon.com/Lords-First-Night-Droit-Cuissage/dp/0226067432)
He has an agenda on its own. And he is not even good at it. I suggest reading Halil İnalcık or Oral Sander.
Don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it- “So how is your sex life?” Nailed it
Ask him what he thinks about Atatürk.
if u want a proper reaction just talk about the negatives of ataturk.
So, what's the deal with Cyprus?
Modern friends requires modern topics
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Don't know what he meant, but I had classmates from turkey in high school. They were all huge Erdogan fans, believed that Allah created the earth, the Armenian genocide didn't happen and so on. It was honestly frightening.
They were probably there because they were children of Erdoğan supporters and/or studied at islamic schools. (Imagine catholic schools but muslim). It's really hard to get abroad when you are from opposition if you aren't rich or don't have family outside the country. Most young people despise Erdoğan. Beliefs that are not religions(ateism deism etc.) are getting popular because of Erdoğan's policies. There's also increasing nationalism and even racism because of Erdoğan's religion based immigration policies.
That's the thing, they were all born and raised in Austria.
That explains a lot. The Turks who went to Europe to work were rednecks of Turkey. Since they were in foreign lands it was easy for Islamist groups to turn them into religious patriots. They have no f'in idea what is going on Turkey except visiting the country like a tourist every few years. They are also hated in Turkey if they support Erdoğan. You can finds tons of videos of "gurbetçi dayı's" talking how Europe is a shithole, there's no food on market shelves, Turkey is a heaven etc. etc. (yes this is literally what they say). And then getting yelled at for lying by young people. Younger "gurbetçiler" either don't care about Turkey and are secular or religious fanatics that don't know about Turkey at all. They want sharia in Turkey, vote for right wing parties here but live in secular Germany and vote for left wing parties. Most of them are the definition of hypocrits.
Exactly
-Believe Allah created the earth Weird that they say it. Like they are muslims or something -Huge Erdogen Fans As a Turk:He can go to cehennem -The Armenian Genocide didn't happen WTF? I get when people say it as a joke These guys are the Definition of a nationalist Turk
Mmm religious people are not exclusive to Turkey. Even the Armenian archives are closed to the public for the events. However, supporting Erdogan is a big red flag. Edit: Typo
I wonder how brainwashed their population must be, you all must not live in bumfuck no where like me
Usually Turkish people outside of Turkey supports Erdogan more than Turkish people in Turkey. We don't like them either. They usually cannot adopt to the culture of the country they live in or Turkey's culture.
>I had classmates from turkey in high school. They were all huge Erdogan fans, WTF dude I am a türk and I can say that only imam hatip high schools (catholic schools of turkey with endless political shit going at backstages) can have students that SUPPORT Erdoğan, every other one just hates his guts. They probably just not wanted to seem like ''rebels'' (I hope) >believed that Allah created the earth, the Armenian genocide didn't happen and so on. most of türks just SAY that they believe in Allah but are either atheists or really REALLY fanatic about religion and even if they really believe that ''Allah created the Earth'' it's not much different than ''Jesus/God/Aliens/Cthulhu/Alien-x created Earth'' fun fact: ''Allah'' is just arabic word for ''God'' before you guys ask''why do you hate him?'' basicly: He screwed economy, school system, Politics, public order etc. AND ARMENIAN GENOCIDE DIDN'T HAPPEN YOU MORONS >:(
I also do agree that extremist thoughts are “frightening” BUT the point about finding their faith frightening is extremely odd. Well from your username I’m assuming that you are German and I genuinely do think that Germans are just as religous. You do realise that Allah = God, right? I’m not a person of faith, and haven’t been one for the last decade and still I don’t see a problem with someone believing in their religion :/ I mean people have been celebrating Jesus’s ascension etc. for the past two weeks lmao. If I were to be frightened, I think people believing in a dead man rising from dead saying peace out and the flying up to the sky to meet with his father (god) would be more frightening. Also, Armenian people did die for sure but I also do think the term genocide is debatable under the circumstances of the war. Ottoman Empire didn’t have the military power to assign troops to exterminate people. And I believe as long as it is not an action of the state it is not considered a genocide. People most definitely killed each other tho. Huge losses on both sides :/
Everyone should believe whatever they want, what's frightening is if these beliefs are more important than facts and science. I have also no idea how you arrived at the conclusion that it is their faith I find frightening.
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I see, that’s a bit odd.. why were you in the mix w Turkish soldiers? As a Missourian I have no idea what goes on
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>since most of their veterans really only knows how to kill unarmed civilians Lol wtf are you talking about and here I was trying to honestly read and understand, just fuckin racist
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>My bad you and history don't get along lol I was rather referring to your racist remarks, dehumanizing, branding Turks as "not a people" and using slanders such as "they shoot unarmed people" by your so called "experiences" with them.
"Do it."
How to dissapear 101
Always ask, only way to know if your new friend is a piece of shit or not.
Ask him bout 1453
Kinda Cring💀
Ask him how he feels about Christians period. If he turns out to be an Islamic Nationalist and genocide denier start singing the Kurdish national anthem.
Thats easy for me...I dont have Turk friends 😊🇦🇲
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I can't, we turks are vampires, drink innocent armenian blood since 1915, never forgetti :(
Yeah, good one. That's a topic to make fun of for sure.
Well yes. Lies and slanders of armenian diaspora and nationalists are valid casus belli for humour.
Lmao this is comedy gold. You can't even refrain from using "casus belli". All jokes aside, it's good that you did away with the false pretences and expressed yourself in a clear and public manner.
Casus Belli means “cause for war”.
I was reading the comment thread with bated breath, hoping, that maybe you had a good argument... and then you go and say the quiet part out loud. sigh. Should've spun it around a little while longer. That wasn't fun at all.
It is pretty long topic and honestly I'm in kinda chilling mode rn. You got yourself an internet though, check on both sides' arguments any time.
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Every fucking reputable source online and in academy says it happened, some Turkish nationalists denying it doesn’t make it not true
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Nah, it was an attempt to create Venice 2.0 except without the land part.
You can celebrate being Turkish and still acknowledge past faults. No one today thinks "Germans bad"
Well I do accept it, but I only accept the actual mistakes in it. (The wrong things that was really done) but I reject the things we didn't do. That's simple. Germany vs Turkey thing is not a correct analogy imo. Hitler did get elected through manipulation or mirroring. And it was like an organized hate stuff, branding Jews as enemy of state, raiding their shops, brainwashing efforts etc. Therefore german ppl are accountable of it. But those did not happen with ottoman empire. It was a monarchy. And there was no widespread Goebbels level stuff, racial tensions erupted, both sides got angry but then racist Young Turks' generals did what they did. Why should you hold 80 m ppl accountable for that? What is the average Turkish guys fault in this tragedy?
I highly suggest you explore the works of Taner Akçam for a more informed "opinion".
I have extensively read and heard Taner Akçams "works". He is an utter turkophobe and spitting nonsense. He claimed Prima Nocta existed among Anatolia cultures among Turks and Kurds in history. ( https://mobile.twitter.com/RecepMarasl/status/1388154450725031938 ) Try translating the page and video. Below this is an accepted work of authority about Prima Nocte. Try finding PDF version of it and search for Turkey, Anatolia, Kurds in the book, if you can find it. (https://www.amazon.com/Lords-First-Night-Droit-Cuissage/dp/0226067432) He has an agenda on its own. And he is not even good at it. I suggest reading Halil İnalcık or Oral Sander.
Was he the guy posting here a few days ago about how the Central Powers weren't bad?