It depends, if he is on the same millisecond and does everything at the exact same time, his RNG seed wouldn't change. He might already be too late now, but if he prepares for it right before his second death, he could hit the same seed again. (In both ways)
Unless DW-esque time-travel shenanigans are involved, it's impossible for a mortal to keep doing exactly the same way / achieving exactly the same results.
>right before his second death
wdym?
So, first of all, it was a joke relating to RNG manipulation in old Nintendo games, of course he can't do the exact same things at the exact same time. Secondly, his 2nd death, as in, you can see in the picture he has 2 lives left, so before his next death, he could prepare himself to do everything as he did in his first life, still tying into the RNG manipulation joke.
Unless he does everything EXACTLY the same
Then he'll get the same kids
Edit: when I said "exactly" I did mean ***ABSOLUTELY FLAWLESSLY*** so yes, he would get the same kids if everything was done perfectly. Obviously 99.999999999999999% of the time he'd miss, but my comment still stands.
Obviously you haven't seen that in some lives he is a plumber, some he is a golfer, some he is a baseball player, and others he is a kart driver. He can live a thousand lives and always find something new haha
Could also be a bad thing. He had 2 kids, but you're never gonna be able to recreate the circumstances in which those 2 kids happen. New kids will be born and the other 2 will never come into existence again.
But he isn't reborn, the world resets. His children are wiped from existence. They don't get to live out their lives, they are replaced by someone else - who will eventually suffer the same fate.
Technically they did live out their lives though. Its just that if time is reset when he dies, then their lives don't have consequences that extend past then. But that doesn't necessarily mean that their experiences retroactively never happened.
This is the problem with time travel. If a timeline gets overwritten by a new one, how do we make sense of it? Did the experiences of the people in the first one actually happen, or do those experiences only happen if they are never overwritten. It seems odd to say that an event later on the timeline that resets it means earlier stuff wasn't experienced. But intuitively people don't think of it as all three of those existing. But this may be because erasing a timeline "after" it happens isn't even coherent as an idea, despite showing up in fiction.
The adventure tv series called Seven Days had a lot of traveling back in time. Often times the hero found a way to charm his lady love, then would be required to go back in time.
He no longer could use that way to charm the lady as it was foreknowledge, it would be cheating, it would be morally and ethically wrong.
It is to her. It's using knowledge that only exists in her mind to manipulate her.
This is why 'Groundhog Day' was so terrible, why Bill Murray was an awful person, because he did -exactly- the thing that the Seven Days main character absolutely refused to do.
If you are just trying to recreate the original situation then its not really manipulation, since you are just trying to restore their original choices to the best of your ability. If anything wouldn't it be less respectful to do something different? That's not you trying to force something they wouldn't have chosen by using information you wouldn't have otherwise, its you trying to restore what they did choose by perfectly recreating what gave rise to their choice. Nothing you do can change that time is reset if you aren't the one controlling it. The best you can do is allow them their original choice.
Groundhog day is fairly different, since he is trying to get with someone he wasn't with originally. In that situation he is using information that wasn't given to him willingly by the person under the knowledge that they were together.
The same person as what. If they don't retain their memories, then when they reset they are literally the same person they were the original time. At least up until that point in time.
Listen man if she keeps getting caught ... maybe it's time to let her go... she obviously just wants the attention... also she's definitely got stockholm syndrome
Mario, from the videogame saga Super Mario Bros, in the videogames usually have extra life's, and once he dies, he returns to life using one of his extra life's
Now, after achieving his objective of living a good peaceful life with Princess Peach, he dies of old age, but he still has extra life's, so he returns to the past where he still needs to rescue Peach
I mean, rolling a boulder and doing nothing else is boring. That's like asking whether it would be a good life if you had to stay at a job working for eternity and never even got a break.
Which is kind of like what the show severance is about. They divide your brain into two parts, the work part and the outside part. So the work part has little memory of the outside world and only exists at work. From their perspective, when they clock out, a second later they are clocking back in. They never sleep, and never see the outside world. They have a whole mini culture and mythology that revolves around their job, because the inside ones have never been outside.
Tbf it wouldn't have to be the same life. You could do different stuff each time. You could have so many different sets of friends based on different life choices that you stop being able to remember them, so once you start repeating you don't even know its a repeat. Since you can have finite memories. You could live in different cities and towns, even different parts of a city. Get different hobbies and so on.
It would still be mentally draining, knowing that it will all be erased and reset though.
Although, I might be upset if she didn't remember anything. Because then even if you live with her endlessly, she would have a finite capacity to remember further back than a certain amount. If you both retained your memories it would be much better.
That's also a thing I think about normal life now. If I was sent back in time, there's definitely some stuff I would want to do differently. But I would be upset if I went back so far the events that made me meet my wife were lost. And it would be a bit annoying to have to reconnect with someone you already know. So better if we got to both retain our memories. (Or for that matter, everyone I know who it matters enough for got to, I suppose).
Oh yeah. Dark. It'd be awful to go back in time with all that you've learned, all the lotto numbers, what to invest in, etc.
It's so dark that like 90% of people past the age of 30 wish for this on the regular.
Who tf remembers random lotto numbers off the top of their head.
Investments though maybe. Bitcoin might be a scam, but if you got in early it was a path to being rich.
That's a solid point, even if given the choice of becoming a tyrant, it's generally easier to become a villain with good publicity.
Abuse a population to get rich off of their hard labor? They will eventually rebel. Keep them happy and get rich that way? Fuckers'll never know what hit them.
That would be a kind of sad fate. Could make a sad story about that. Someone gets a second chance to fix their mistakes, but then its barely any better.
Went to a nice elementary for a little bit and they had a Nintendo with Mario Brothers. So one lunch I said I get to play when you die and this kid was like "I probably won't die".
So I sat there all recess waiting my turn, it was raining so we were inside, and he fuckin never died. Which pissed me off since he always kicked my ass in tetherball and I thought I was good at Mario Brothers.
I think he might of died once ever while I was there and I got to play. And then instantly die because apparently I suck. Never tried again. Fuck You David.
Depending on era this particular hypothetical game was in, he might be able to just enter the Konami code and get himself x99 lives, money, skip levels etc.
Just rock up with functionally infinite lives, money, kick Bowser's ass and get another chance to grow old with Peach again.
I don't remember the exact Mario game, but I definitely remember being taught the Konami code on my original Gameboy. Let you edit the number of lives, coins and level you were on.
Boss dead, level clear, where do I, go from here? Walk home, try to eat, I am not hungry, go to sleep, I can't sleep, lie in bed, think about what bad guy said. Even if you did defeat me, what would you do then? Buy a ticket, go to Spain....(don't remember anymore)
(I got you). Meet a girl, fall in love, have four kids, learn the joy a family gives. Live my life, love my wife, share a bed every night. Still can't sleep, lie in bed. *level clear* start again.
Wait, so if he remembers, then Peach remembers too?
And they're both young again, and so they can do all the freaky shit they learned from experience, but now with new supple bodies?
Pretty awesome, tbh.
(Plus, now they can invest in Apple when it's just getting started. XD)
“Honey it’s me, our child… he g-got married… you’re a grandmother.. I-I swear. Please, you got to believe, I’m not stocking you, you have a scar behind your left leg… please…”
“What? You’ve been spying on me through the castle windows haven’t you? Get away from me you creep.”
Or…
He watches his children grow old and die. Fuck living forever get me off this space rock when it’s time. Have you seen the predictions for the future? Heat death, sun expansion, climate change, an inevitable WW3, at least in this timeline I get to experience choice fatigue, instead of famine…
This remind me of that one character in heroes has returned manhwa where he saved the world with other friend and got married with his lover and lived happily until he grow old and passed away but suddenly he got respawned back to the previous time where the world is in chaos and he lived like that until he become evil
Meant the manwha, I didn't realise/forgot that it was part of that manwha. Been a while since I read it, was probably one of my favorite twists ever. Thanks bud!
Nice, now he gets to do the same thing a second time
a nice way of looking at it
He'll never have the same children though. They've effectively died for him with his death.
It depends, if he is on the same millisecond and does everything at the exact same time, his RNG seed wouldn't change. He might already be too late now, but if he prepares for it right before his second death, he could hit the same seed again. (In both ways)
Unless DW-esque time-travel shenanigans are involved, it's impossible for a mortal to keep doing exactly the same way / achieving exactly the same results. >right before his second death wdym?
So, first of all, it was a joke relating to RNG manipulation in old Nintendo games, of course he can't do the exact same things at the exact same time. Secondly, his 2nd death, as in, you can see in the picture he has 2 lives left, so before his next death, he could prepare himself to do everything as he did in his first life, still tying into the RNG manipulation joke.
I've decided to stop understanding jokes, sorry. >Secondly, Oh, I gotchu now. Thanks for clearing it up.
Fair enough.
Unless he does everything EXACTLY the same Then he'll get the same kids Edit: when I said "exactly" I did mean ***ABSOLUTELY FLAWLESSLY*** so yes, he would get the same kids if everything was done perfectly. Obviously 99.999999999999999% of the time he'd miss, but my comment still stands.
Nah, the exact same sperm cell would have to be the winner and timing/recreating that would be virtually impossible
Hence ***EXACTLY*** the same That's what ***EXACTLY*** means
Exactly
This ain't a TAS speedrun brother
merely knowing the process imposes the impossibility of being able to follow an already trodden path
This feels like a truly dark spin on multiverse theory
Nietzsche would say it's the only way to know you are living your life well
Eternal recurrence moment
Is it tho?
Ah, a fellow hater of the reincarnation idea.
No, i mean if you have to live same life and you have all the memories, wouldn't it be boring?
live a different life
I don't think that would be possible in Mario's case
Obviously you haven't seen that in some lives he is a plumber, some he is a golfer, some he is a baseball player, and others he is a kart driver. He can live a thousand lives and always find something new haha
A Futurama style ending. So... wanna go around again?
Easily top 3 endings of a show and they fucking shit all over by rebooting it
The reboot is awful. Everyone is a caricature of themselves
Yeah I tried watching the first couple episodes and it was garbage, they really did absolute shit all over an absolutely amazing series.
More pumping is always good
You misspelled plumbing for some reason.
Sliding down pipes. It's all the same
Could also be a bad thing. He had 2 kids, but you're never gonna be able to recreate the circumstances in which those 2 kids happen. New kids will be born and the other 2 will never come into existence again.
Yeah he get to have new kids with the woman he loves.
Should tell that to parents irl whose kids die.
I just realised how much insensitive I was. I never thought about it in this lense.
But the difference is he got to live a full life with those kids and raised them into capable adults and he died, so id say it is positive
But he isn't reborn, the world resets. His children are wiped from existence. They don't get to live out their lives, they are replaced by someone else - who will eventually suffer the same fate.
Technically they did live out their lives though. Its just that if time is reset when he dies, then their lives don't have consequences that extend past then. But that doesn't necessarily mean that their experiences retroactively never happened. This is the problem with time travel. If a timeline gets overwritten by a new one, how do we make sense of it? Did the experiences of the people in the first one actually happen, or do those experiences only happen if they are never overwritten. It seems odd to say that an event later on the timeline that resets it means earlier stuff wasn't experienced. But intuitively people don't think of it as all three of those existing. But this may be because erasing a timeline "after" it happens isn't even coherent as an idea, despite showing up in fiction.
Found the guy who wrote the book of Job.
wow dude get a life. loser.
[Level Clear! You Win!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G87p148EOjo)
This was great!
The adventure tv series called Seven Days had a lot of traveling back in time. Often times the hero found a way to charm his lady love, then would be required to go back in time. He no longer could use that way to charm the lady as it was foreknowledge, it would be cheating, it would be morally and ethically wrong.
That makes no sense. If you did it authentically the first time, and those were your genuine feelings, then recreating that isn't lying.
It is to her. It's using knowledge that only exists in her mind to manipulate her. This is why 'Groundhog Day' was so terrible, why Bill Murray was an awful person, because he did -exactly- the thing that the Seven Days main character absolutely refused to do.
If you are just trying to recreate the original situation then its not really manipulation, since you are just trying to restore their original choices to the best of your ability. If anything wouldn't it be less respectful to do something different? That's not you trying to force something they wouldn't have chosen by using information you wouldn't have otherwise, its you trying to restore what they did choose by perfectly recreating what gave rise to their choice. Nothing you do can change that time is reset if you aren't the one controlling it. The best you can do is allow them their original choice. Groundhog day is fairly different, since he is trying to get with someone he wasn't with originally. In that situation he is using information that wasn't given to him willingly by the person under the knowledge that they were together.
When Groundhog Day resets it's -not- the same person. Same when the guy goes back in time Seven Days. His lady love is even MORE not the same person.
The same person as what. If they don't retain their memories, then when they reset they are literally the same person they were the original time. At least up until that point in time.
Nope, that's boring as hell, now that he knows he can respawn he gets to do insane amounts of drugs
Listen man if she keeps getting caught ... maybe it's time to let her go... she obviously just wants the attention... also she's definitely got stockholm syndrome
Bro skipped ALL the check points? Cheaters never prosper
This is actually very dark 😂
I don't get it.
Mario, from the videogame saga Super Mario Bros, in the videogames usually have extra life's, and once he dies, he returns to life using one of his extra life's Now, after achieving his objective of living a good peaceful life with Princess Peach, he dies of old age, but he still has extra life's, so he returns to the past where he still needs to rescue Peach
Ah shit. Got it. Thanks!
You're welcome!!
Why is it dark though? He can relive the good times with peach and snake her drain all over again.
For one, he won't see his kid(s) again, even if he does it all over again. He'll have other kids, but the ones from the first lifetime? Gone.
Right but he never would see his kids again if he died and didn’t resurrect as well. Or you guys believe in an afterlife?
Tbf its a mixed bag. You'd be happy to be alive, but disoriented that life went backwards and you can only ever relive time you already lived.
Maybe his kid turns into Bowser after he resets
Not true, it could be a time loop paradox, so his kids likely would be born again. He repeats the past.
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You can't escape the time loop. Unless you do, it depends on what show we're talking about.
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It depends on the time loop. Things could simply be fated to happen and Mario would be unable to stop it.
He can escape it assuming he runs out of lives
He can escape it assuming he runs out of lives
People here be downvoting cause they don't get what you're trying to say, haha.
Lol, it's OK, I saved just before posting.
He can escape it assuming he runs out of lives
He has to nut the same sperm he did in his last life
Is there a reason I'm being disliked ;-; I said it could be a loop is all
I thought it meant he gets back to his original point with his original age, and not goes back in time, so his wife is dead in the last panel.
World resets. He will have to grow old again and maybe watch Peaches die again or he could do a short cut and kill himself. That is pretty dark.
Yep pretty dark, he would have to kill himself multiple times if he's got more than 1 extra life.
Why was Sisyphus rolling the same boulder up a hill for eternity, a punishment?
"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."
pretty sure bro would be huge
I mean, rolling a boulder and doing nothing else is boring. That's like asking whether it would be a good life if you had to stay at a job working for eternity and never even got a break. Which is kind of like what the show severance is about. They divide your brain into two parts, the work part and the outside part. So the work part has little memory of the outside world and only exists at work. From their perspective, when they clock out, a second later they are clocking back in. They never sleep, and never see the outside world. They have a whole mini culture and mythology that revolves around their job, because the inside ones have never been outside.
Upvoted for "snake her drain".
Imagine living the same life forever. Pure torture.
Tbf it wouldn't have to be the same life. You could do different stuff each time. You could have so many different sets of friends based on different life choices that you stop being able to remember them, so once you start repeating you don't even know its a repeat. Since you can have finite memories. You could live in different cities and towns, even different parts of a city. Get different hobbies and so on. It would still be mentally draining, knowing that it will all be erased and reset though.
I don't think Peach is going to be there she dead dead ☠️
Thanks Peter
Peter's toes democratic reflection out!
What if it’s not the past but he’s just reborn younger?🤔🤔
I get that, but as someone who found his person, if after dying I got to go back and spend my life with her all over again, that would be amazing.
Although, I might be upset if she didn't remember anything. Because then even if you live with her endlessly, she would have a finite capacity to remember further back than a certain amount. If you both retained your memories it would be much better. That's also a thing I think about normal life now. If I was sent back in time, there's definitely some stuff I would want to do differently. But I would be upset if I went back so far the events that made me meet my wife were lost. And it would be a bit annoying to have to reconnect with someone you already know. So better if we got to both retain our memories. (Or for that matter, everyone I know who it matters enough for got to, I suppose).
The falling in love phase is so good though. And being able to change some things and live a different life together would be cool as well.
It actually has more to do with level design the extra lives, the comic implies that was only the first level.
When Mario died, he loaded to his checkpoint, which is before he saves Peach. Mario effectively just undid his entire life
When Mario died, he loaded to his checkpoint, which is before he saves Peach. Mario effectively just undid his entire life
Oh yeah. Dark. It'd be awful to go back in time with all that you've learned, all the lotto numbers, what to invest in, etc. It's so dark that like 90% of people past the age of 30 wish for this on the regular.
Who tf remembers random lotto numbers off the top of their head. Investments though maybe. Bitcoin might be a scam, but if you got in early it was a path to being rich.
Honestly if you lived a good, happy life this would be nice. You could do it all over again.
...and this time, using your foreknowledge, become a tyrant who rules the population with an iron fist and abuses them to hell and back.
You got to go all darkside on at least one play-through...
And one play-through you need to be a true-pacifist, And one play-through where you are neutral.
Oh so Putin is on his second run then… New game+ russia version
Putin be rasputin'.
I dunno man, being a tyrant is a fuckton of work, I'm not sure I'd be able to muster the motivation, knowing all of it would just vanish at the end.
That's a solid point, even if given the choice of becoming a tyrant, it's generally easier to become a villain with good publicity. Abuse a population to get rich off of their hard labor? They will eventually rebel. Keep them happy and get rich that way? Fuckers'll never know what hit them.
Bill Murray groundhog Day but with a tyrant twist.
If anything you know you'd do the Mushroom Kingdom equivalent of knowing what to gamble/buy and be rich AF, unless Princess Peach isn't enough.
I have a feeling I would make all the same mistakes over again. Have repeated them in this life-why not in perpetuity forever and ever?
That would be a kind of sad fate. Could make a sad story about that. Someone gets a second chance to fix their mistakes, but then its barely any better.
You wouldn't end up with the same kids, though.
Someone's played Returnal.
Beat me to it. God, I love Returnal.
Such a good game. The sheer shock value of that segment stays in my memory
I should finish that game, lol. Got this "ending" and was like, "Man, I've got too many other games to play, imma get back to this later".
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Went to a nice elementary for a little bit and they had a Nintendo with Mario Brothers. So one lunch I said I get to play when you die and this kid was like "I probably won't die". So I sat there all recess waiting my turn, it was raining so we were inside, and he fuckin never died. Which pissed me off since he always kicked my ass in tetherball and I thought I was good at Mario Brothers. I think he might of died once ever while I was there and I got to play. And then instantly die because apparently I suck. Never tried again. Fuck You David.
Wouldn’t there be a checkpoint somewhere along there?
Depending on era this particular hypothetical game was in, he might be able to just enter the Konami code and get himself x99 lives, money, skip levels etc. Just rock up with functionally infinite lives, money, kick Bowser's ass and get another chance to grow old with Peach again.
> Nintendo game > Konami code
Yes? It wasn't as if it was copyrighted to implement it and lots of games did.
There's a koopa on a stairway on 7-2 that you can bounce for 99+ lives, IIRC.
I don't remember the exact Mario game, but I definitely remember being taught the Konami code on my original Gameboy. Let you edit the number of lives, coins and level you were on.
Dude, Dan the Man
Cultured guy here
no way i beat it just yesterday no way that fact comes in handy this quick
[Level Clear, start again](https://youtu.be/G87p148EOjo?si=MaGmiIv2LmLvx4tp)
Boss dead, level clear, where do I, go from here? Walk home, try to eat, I am not hungry, go to sleep, I can't sleep, lie in bed, think about what bad guy said. Even if you did defeat me, what would you do then? Buy a ticket, go to Spain....(don't remember anymore)
(I got you). Meet a girl, fall in love, have four kids, learn the joy a family gives. Live my life, love my wife, share a bed every night. Still can't sleep, lie in bed. *level clear* start again.
***Even if you did defeat me, what would you do then?***
Bro beat the whole game without dying once
Or collected a lot of 1-Ups
That feels like your common speed runner going at it
Tbf, if you use the best warps thats only like 8 levels.
re:zero, basically
Atleast credit the author
I believe that would be u/jungle-boogie
Also I feel like the original had "What the fuck" in the last frame.
It has
If Mario and Returnal had a baby.
"Oh mama mia, I'll need to do all that again!"
Level clear! Start again? Yes. No. Watch Tom cardy
Now go for the bowser route
I wish I had that curse...
That's the reason we have more than one mario game
Dude, don't cut off the author's credit.
It's the Dark Tower series in a nutshell.
I love how Peach doesn't age a bit in the 60 years they're together
Now that he knows where Bowser and the princess really are he can speed run XD
♪ *it's in the way that you use it* ♪
In the original comic mario said "what the fuck"
Now I fuck daisy on this new playthrough
I'd really like to know why the author thought the last panel needed a 'WHAT'
Boss dead level clear, where do I go from here
Shout out to Hero Has Returned.
TNG had a great episode with a similar concept: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Inner_Light_(episode)
Wait, so if he remembers, then Peach remembers too? And they're both young again, and so they can do all the freaky shit they learned from experience, but now with new supple bodies? Pretty awesome, tbh. (Plus, now they can invest in Apple when it's just getting started. XD)
Damn Mario! You need to save more often!
Like Sisyphus, I am bound to hell.
This would be an interesting premise for the next Mario movie 🤔 lol but not him living to old age just dying and having an extra life.
Just get killed two more times by a gumba and the spell should end
Bro needs to get some checkpoints
Buddhist mario trying to escape reincarnation
“Honey it’s me, our child… he g-got married… you’re a grandmother.. I-I swear. Please, you got to believe, I’m not stocking you, you have a scar behind your left leg… please…” “What? You’ve been spying on me through the castle windows haven’t you? Get away from me you creep.” Or… He watches his children grow old and die. Fuck living forever get me off this space rock when it’s time. Have you seen the predictions for the future? Heat death, sun expansion, climate change, an inevitable WW3, at least in this timeline I get to experience choice fatigue, instead of famine…
Honestly I don't see the negative side here? You get to live your life again.
This remind me of that one character in heroes has returned manhwa where he saved the world with other friend and got married with his lover and lived happily until he grow old and passed away but suddenly he got respawned back to the previous time where the world is in chaos and he lived like that until he become evil
Can you remember what it was called? I tried to find it but couldn't, I was looking for it a few weeks back with no luck :(
You mean the name of manhwa or name of the character? If it's the manhwa name it's hero has returned and the character is rewind hero or seongjun lee
Meant the manwha, I didn't realise/forgot that it was part of that manwha. Been a while since I read it, was probably one of my favorite twists ever. Thanks bud!
Risk of Rain 2's Simulacrum
Oh whata
That poor guy has to live eternity in a life or adventure and romance. How terrible for him
Returnal moment