It is a hobo sign, but it means "If you pretend to be religious, A kind lady will feed you and let you sleep in the hay loft in exchange for doing chores "
Oh, you’re right. Then it means “Homeowner has fantastic homemade cookies but also secret dungeon in basement with human skin for drapes; cookies are worth it but move quickly.”
You're genuinely suspicious of why a federal intelligence organization is collecting and translating identifiable symbols found domestically? I mean I'm a little judgy of the spooks but damn, the why seems obvious
It very much still exists. I see markings on abandoned houses all the time. I believe they’re saying things like this house is or is not being regularly checked on, has current squatting inhabitants, is welcoming or isn’t etc.
You can also check out their subreddit, r/vagabonds, if you want to take a glimpse into their lives a bit
Be warned though, they don't like spam posts there from "housies" so I don't recommend posting too much
The last time I was on there one of those crackheads was joking that the puppy he had he had stolen.
And before you say anything, his post history also had pictures of crack and meth so it's not like I'm being mean calling him a crackhead.
Hobos, tramps, and vagabonds differ from regular homeless folks for several reasons. There is an entire subculture. I used the word "genuine" because many people just make the assumption that hobo = homeless, but that's reductive of the significant difference between the two.
I don't wanna speak for them, as I'm not one. But, of the ones I've met and what I've read, many choose a life on the road. They rarely are settled in one place. Hence, seeing them around railroads, they're hitching rides. I've met some with amazing musical talent, and busking often pays for their necessities, art is also popular, and the life seems to attract a lot of creative types, or they find odd jobs as they go, usually not sticking around long. Many don't view themselves as "homeless" but as perpetual travelers.
Whereas many homeless people are victims of circumstance, they want, and many work for, stable housing and long-term work. Many hobos aren't interested in such comforts and pride themselves on the life they live. They stick together usually, often traveling in small groups.
This is by far not all the differences, I'm just speaking to my general knowledge
Check out r/vagabond for a look into their subculture and clearer answers
https://www.reddit.com/r/vagabond/s/OxSa8WdoG2
No problem. I actually find the music and art of train hobos pretty cool. I also go to a lot of bluegrass/new grass type music events, and there's usually some tramps around.
Also, imho, this is a great podcast. It's nonfiction and follows a mother's, Daniele Morton's, search for, life with, etc her hobo daughter. In the search to find and also understand her daughter, Morton travels the country trying to learn hobo ways. On he'd search, she meets and spends time with hobos, railroad cops, houseless service organizations, and more. She's a journalist, and I really enjoyed how she constructed the story.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt26769755/ (I listen on Spotify, but it's available on most platforms)
https://open.spotify.com/show/41qTEMkddA3FX0PwVRdND8?si=-Bkqq6b0SoyR1bp4nrBOeA
Also, while we say "hobo," a lot because it's a historically traditional word many prefer "traveler, etc:
That’s why I was curious. I had never heard or seen anyone say “genuine hobo” before. Which implies that there are fake hobos and I had no idea there was a distinction.
This podcast sounds actually amazing and I’m really looking forward to listening to it. Thanks so much for all your time.
Makes sense. I just used that word not really implying a horde of fake hobos, though I've encountered homeless people that like the asthetic. Biggest distinction imho is many hobos choose the life whereas most homeless don't wanna be.
That's great. I listen to a lot of podcasts and found it informative and really well put together
"Not all who wander are lost!" The Jack Reacher book series is based on an ex soldier whose only earthly possessions are his cellphone and his toothbrush. And even though he gets quite a big pension from the military, he chooses a lifestyle of moving from place to place and town to town. And lquite often he looses both the toothbrush and the phone! I have know **many** guys who live like this. Who only want adventure and not a family. Yes, it isn't the norm, but as long as they are only hurting themselves(and in their mind, they are living the dream), who are we to judge!
In most circles I've heard them called 'train kids' these days. If they're real committed they might have a railroad track tattoo going down from their lips.
I use to work for a natural gas company. Sometimes they would mark above ground valve curb key access points that typically get buried in dirt or gravel. This is the symbol we would use to represent a valve. More context would be needed but in our area these valves are mostly in older areas if they are for the customers house. But the natural gas system does have a lot of below ground valves to isolate areas in an emergency/repairs/alterations type work. Finding these valves off measurements can be a nightmare if they haven’t been needed for decades. These little valve symbols would show us we are close if they have been found recently but became buried again
In our as builts we would have a lot more/many specific ways to draw a valve. Usually horizontal. This was just one of the ways I saw guys draw them in the field. Mostly on troublesome valves with a lack of public landmarks to measure off of(I didn’t like using a fence as paint fades and wood rots) Reading more comments I don’t think I’m the only right answer, could be even mark a water utility valve. Our area they are all below frost line depth. Survey reference point seems pretty likely too. We usually marked a fixed point to line up with everyday building a natural gas station. Or for grading land. I just completely don’t think OP should worry about gang targeting. Kind of just a jerk move likely done by a utility company or surveyor for a reference to an as built plan
I’m with you on this. It appears to be either a valve or perhaps a survey marking. It’s almost like a backsight. The thing that makes me think it’s from a surveyor is the lines were drawn with a straight edge then filled in. That doesn’t seem hobo-esque to me but I’m not up to speed on hobo-ery.
That’s my SWAG too. Survey back sight to avoid putting a nail in someone’s fence. Back sights are temporary, only need the day(s) of the survey. So a sharpie, which all self respecting survey/field folks have a couple styles of in their vest, make sense in an urban/suburban setting. If this was rural, I’d expect a lath with a nail in the top of it.
Although those lath make the perfect “sword” for the tween crowd (the ones that aren’t in the house playing video games all waking hours not spent in school). I think me and my buddies might have frustrated a surveyor or two back in the day.
Finally playing this game, I’m like 70% through it!! definitely being a completionist, stresses me out knowing that there could be resources and hidden items in literally any nook & cranny
I have surveyed for about 20 years and yes, we would 100% do this if we needed to. This marker is a bit too obvious, I would have used a nail in flagging and removed the flagging when the job was done.
I've had several bosses who were too cheap or too old school to buy the stickers.
Since no one else has answered this, look at the drawing. Obviously if you know anything about construction and framing you notice the two triangles and they are pivoting towards each other. This measurement is typical for new construction and it shows you, that there is a mark on your beam which I have no idea what it represents.
Reminds me of Dave Barry’s etymology of the word eggnog: “‘egg’ from the English word ‘egg’, which means: egg, and I don’t know where ‘nog’ comes from”.
My experience with surveys so far is on par with that. I have a milestone on my property line and the other properties are cut off from it by a creek. I know the 4 surveying guys in our town by now and I keep finding them at random times in my yard. All I ask for is a quick ring of my bell and a heads up. I know that they have the legal right to be there, but they could be less entitled about it.
It would be a shame if my 4 year old finds the stone with a pick axe one day.
Common sense isn’t as common as you’d think, and not only that but if it is a survey mark, could have been the guys first day/week/month. Never know. This world is just full of surprises.
Not on wood, and that's black sharpie. Acetone is the best choice here.
Also unsure what alcohol you're suggesting as the 99% leads me to thing grain alcohol (ethanol) and the 70% is usually reserved for commercial isopropyl alcohol.
My background on this is I'm a chemist and worked in a lab in college where cleaning glassware was job duty. A lot of the clear glassware would be marked with blue or black sharpie and amber glassware with the silver sharpie. You could take acetone and spray it on the glassware of any color and it would run off with not scrubbing. If you used methanol the blue would run off completely, black required some wiping & the silver required some elbow grease. As changed between alcohols (Increasing the carbon chain), the more scrubbing required to remove the black and silver
99% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) easily removes most permanent marker from most surfaces, in my experience. Just spray and wipe.
My background: I've done it a whole bunch of times. And I have to keep relabeling my spray bottle full of alcohol because the alcohol keeps taking the sharpie off.
Also, at least in Canada, 99% isopropyl is available at every pharmacy and grocery store up to one litre. I buy gallon jugs from a commercial cleaning supply store. You can buy refined lab grade on Amazon ... it's extremely common. Honestly probably easier to find than 70%.
My guess would be that’s a survey marker. If they are doing some new construction in the area they would use this to calibrate their transit level. That way everyday they can set up and take down their equipment and still get everything graded at the same level. Hard to build something flat if you move your point of reference everyday.
So if it pisses you off that the surveyors marked up your fence, you could go out there every night, clean the mark off with alcohol, and re-mark it a few inches off... how much would that jack the project up?
It’s a optical survey target. Probably someone trying to figure out boundaries of yards. Basically just a plus sign but they shade in two of the quadrants so you can better see it through the optics. Kind of an a-hole move though. I would have taped a paper one to your fence instead of permanent marking.
It’s pretty well decided that dude (Leon Livingston) made all those up for his books in the early 1900’s. I’ve yet to meet anyone who says it was actually used widespread like people think.
It is a survey point that some asshole sharpies on your fence instead of using a laminated one that he could have just taped to the fence. My guess, is the guy got tired of people tearing his laminated cards off of their fences and instead of evolving into a guy that would be mature enough to start leaving flyers on peoples doors to explain the purpose of the laminated card being taped or siliconed to their fence, so that they will leave it alone for the duration of their civil project, he went straight to dickhead and started doing it with sharpie.
So if it pisses the homeowner off, they could clean it off with alcohol, and re-draw it a few inches/feet off? Like, every night? Would that mess up the project at some point?
I am surprised no one has answered correctly. It's an extinction rebellion tag, it represents an hour glass. It represents hour time running out as a civilization as climate change gets worse. Not surprised to see it in a progressive area like the Bay area.
According to the burglary symbols guide, typical symbols include circles, barred circles, triangles, ladder-like lines, crosses, and letter codes (e.g., M for empty in the morning, N for empty at night). The symbol on your fence does not match these descriptions. The specific symbol on your fence does not appear to be directly associated with any known gang markings from what I can gather.
I'm going to venture a guess and say they were trying to initial zero with an optic/sight with a bore laser and needed a longer distance from their location.
I think that's actually a hobo marking that means your house has fast internet
Dirty Mike and the boys were there.
Thanks for the f shack
It will happen again!
It's Christinith! Are you deaf or stupid?!
You come into our thread, you get my wife’s name right!
Lmmfao OMG I was rotfl when I read this
YOU get back here and you make love to my wife!
Rub your dicks on the car as you go past it
Pickle Pressing huh
Uh-oh, he's pressing pickle again
I’m impressed!
Looks like a racoon gave birth in the back seat!
Placenta blew out all over the back window there.
Is the Soup Kitchen opened up again?!
I loved that car
Soup kitchen
I named my Prius this.
Classic line
They left a note!
You know what they call that? They call it a soup kitchen.
Good one Dangle!
Gator better get his gat!
Gators bitches better be using jimmies
My wife put this on the other day. Shit hand me cracking up.
The air bnb I’m currently staying at has this exact quote in their guest log book
It is a hobo sign, but it means "If you pretend to be religious, A kind lady will feed you and let you sleep in the hay loft in exchange for doing chores "
That's if you reverse the direction of the triangles so the top one points left
Oh, you’re right. Then it means “Homeowner has fantastic homemade cookies but also secret dungeon in basement with human skin for drapes; cookies are worth it but move quickly.”
Hobo Shadowmarks
Lee Marvin is going to ride Number 19 and become Emperer of the North
What about Bob?
Baby steps
I’m sailing!
Baby steps to the bathroom
Yeah but not the kid.
Gotta be Lee Marvin, it’s the only winnable way to square off against Ernest Borgnine.
Not if the Bull Borgnine has any say, he won’t
This is an intriguing response.
[It's the way of the road](https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/about/cryptologic-heritage/museum/hobo-signs-definitions.pdf)
Clicking on this downloads it.
It didn’t for me. Idk what your phone is doing
Fuckin way of the road Bubs
Hot hamburg sandwiches? Hot pull the fuck over!
I’m suspect of why the nsa needs those…
It’s part of [their museum on the history of codes & cryptography](https://www.nsa.gov/museum/).
You're genuinely suspicious of why a federal intelligence organization is collecting and translating identifiable symbols found domestically? I mean I'm a little judgy of the spooks but damn, the why seems obvious
Having worked with some of those analysts over the years, they get REALLY bored.
I’m sure it’s no coincidence, but that safe camping/drinking water logo reminds me of the Campgrounds of America logo.
… nsa.gov? Lmao
Hobo sign needs to make a comeback
It very much still exists. I see markings on abandoned houses all the time. I believe they’re saying things like this house is or is not being regularly checked on, has current squatting inhabitants, is welcoming or isn’t etc.
I've heard of hobo markings but where are you getting Internet from?
From the NYC hobo scene
Based
Like war chalking?
Exactly the same
There is actually a hobo sign for unlocked Internet so maybe
My work’s better.
It's the symbol for an "easy mark". OP, are you a sucker by chance? Well stop it.
Lmao!
Lock your WiFi down with a a passphrase
Cool! Youve been marked by hobos.
They still exist, out there, somewhere
I spend a fair amount of time near railroad yards and facilities. Do that, and you're likely to find some genuine hobos in time
You can also check out their subreddit, r/vagabonds, if you want to take a glimpse into their lives a bit Be warned though, they don't like spam posts there from "housies" so I don't recommend posting too much
Lmao. Housies. That’s pretty funny. I’m going to have to check it out.
Well its empty for me
No s r/vagabond
The last time I was on there one of those crackheads was joking that the puppy he had he had stolen. And before you say anything, his post history also had pictures of crack and meth so it's not like I'm being mean calling him a crackhead.
It's just one of the many, many subs I lurk out of sheer curiosity. I don't even camp.
Jesus that’s intriguing and depressing at the same time
What is a genuine hobo?
Hobos, tramps, and vagabonds differ from regular homeless folks for several reasons. There is an entire subculture. I used the word "genuine" because many people just make the assumption that hobo = homeless, but that's reductive of the significant difference between the two. I don't wanna speak for them, as I'm not one. But, of the ones I've met and what I've read, many choose a life on the road. They rarely are settled in one place. Hence, seeing them around railroads, they're hitching rides. I've met some with amazing musical talent, and busking often pays for their necessities, art is also popular, and the life seems to attract a lot of creative types, or they find odd jobs as they go, usually not sticking around long. Many don't view themselves as "homeless" but as perpetual travelers. Whereas many homeless people are victims of circumstance, they want, and many work for, stable housing and long-term work. Many hobos aren't interested in such comforts and pride themselves on the life they live. They stick together usually, often traveling in small groups. This is by far not all the differences, I'm just speaking to my general knowledge Check out r/vagabond for a look into their subculture and clearer answers https://www.reddit.com/r/vagabond/s/OxSa8WdoG2
Thanks for this, I had no idea!
No problem. I actually find the music and art of train hobos pretty cool. I also go to a lot of bluegrass/new grass type music events, and there's usually some tramps around. Also, imho, this is a great podcast. It's nonfiction and follows a mother's, Daniele Morton's, search for, life with, etc her hobo daughter. In the search to find and also understand her daughter, Morton travels the country trying to learn hobo ways. On he'd search, she meets and spends time with hobos, railroad cops, houseless service organizations, and more. She's a journalist, and I really enjoyed how she constructed the story. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt26769755/ (I listen on Spotify, but it's available on most platforms) https://open.spotify.com/show/41qTEMkddA3FX0PwVRdND8?si=-Bkqq6b0SoyR1bp4nrBOeA Also, while we say "hobo," a lot because it's a historically traditional word many prefer "traveler, etc:
That’s why I was curious. I had never heard or seen anyone say “genuine hobo” before. Which implies that there are fake hobos and I had no idea there was a distinction. This podcast sounds actually amazing and I’m really looking forward to listening to it. Thanks so much for all your time.
Makes sense. I just used that word not really implying a horde of fake hobos, though I've encountered homeless people that like the asthetic. Biggest distinction imho is many hobos choose the life whereas most homeless don't wanna be. That's great. I listen to a lot of podcasts and found it informative and really well put together
Hobos are actually those who travel for work. Tramps travel but don’t want to work, to clear up the other guys comment
Thank you!
"Not all who wander are lost!" The Jack Reacher book series is based on an ex soldier whose only earthly possessions are his cellphone and his toothbrush. And even though he gets quite a big pension from the military, he chooses a lifestyle of moving from place to place and town to town. And lquite often he looses both the toothbrush and the phone! I have know **many** guys who live like this. Who only want adventure and not a family. Yes, it isn't the norm, but as long as they are only hurting themselves(and in their mind, they are living the dream), who are we to judge!
In most circles I've heard them called 'train kids' these days. If they're real committed they might have a railroad track tattoo going down from their lips.
Can confirm. Was one for a long time. 14-23
(I miss Stobe.)
in the bay area there are everywhere
Check out Yard Buzzards on youtube. Or Hobo Shoestring (RIP)
Twas a rival
That is decidedly not cool
I use to work for a natural gas company. Sometimes they would mark above ground valve curb key access points that typically get buried in dirt or gravel. This is the symbol we would use to represent a valve. More context would be needed but in our area these valves are mostly in older areas if they are for the customers house. But the natural gas system does have a lot of below ground valves to isolate areas in an emergency/repairs/alterations type work. Finding these valves off measurements can be a nightmare if they haven’t been needed for decades. These little valve symbols would show us we are close if they have been found recently but became buried again
Wouldn't it be straight up and down, and not on an angle like that? Is this the "connection to existing" symbol?
In our as builts we would have a lot more/many specific ways to draw a valve. Usually horizontal. This was just one of the ways I saw guys draw them in the field. Mostly on troublesome valves with a lack of public landmarks to measure off of(I didn’t like using a fence as paint fades and wood rots) Reading more comments I don’t think I’m the only right answer, could be even mark a water utility valve. Our area they are all below frost line depth. Survey reference point seems pretty likely too. We usually marked a fixed point to line up with everyday building a natural gas station. Or for grading land. I just completely don’t think OP should worry about gang targeting. Kind of just a jerk move likely done by a utility company or surveyor for a reference to an as built plan
I’m with you on this. It appears to be either a valve or perhaps a survey marking. It’s almost like a backsight. The thing that makes me think it’s from a surveyor is the lines were drawn with a straight edge then filled in. That doesn’t seem hobo-esque to me but I’m not up to speed on hobo-ery.
That’s my SWAG too. Survey back sight to avoid putting a nail in someone’s fence. Back sights are temporary, only need the day(s) of the survey. So a sharpie, which all self respecting survey/field folks have a couple styles of in their vest, make sense in an urban/suburban setting. If this was rural, I’d expect a lath with a nail in the top of it. Although those lath make the perfect “sword” for the tween crowd (the ones that aren’t in the house playing video games all waking hours not spent in school). I think me and my buddies might have frustrated a surveyor or two back in the day.
That's an 11-year old kid fuckin around with a sharpie
Real talk, I drew this shit all the time as a kid
Center of gravity. Lift it from that point and it'll balance nicely.
Center of the universe
No that’s a rose growing in an abandoned city lot
Dark Tower?
Yes. Wasn’t sure anyone was goina get it lol.
Kind of obscure, but that’s the best kind of reference.
Oh yeah, we're out here.
There's dozens of us!
Dozens!
The Cult of the Tree has a supply stash nearby.
Yeah turn on your flashlight OP
Get you some batteries and ammo.
Finally playing this game, I’m like 70% through it!! definitely being a completionist, stresses me out knowing that there could be resources and hidden items in literally any nook & cranny
Survey crew wouldn’t have done this. They would have attached a premade elevation marker. It’s just a random graffiti tag.
I have surveyed for about 20 years and yes, we would 100% do this if we needed to. This marker is a bit too obvious, I would have used a nail in flagging and removed the flagging when the job was done. I've had several bosses who were too cheap or too old school to buy the stickers.
Their ass would be painting my fence
Sure, give the fence pink eye. Hasn’t it been through enough?
Lol this made me almost spit my coffee out 😂🤣
You never go ass to fence.
In the heat of the summer it’s ok to go ass to fence
I knew it!
Lmao
Truth!
im sure their hands would work too.
Sure, give the fence pink eye. Hasn’t it been through enough?
No they wouldn’t.
You’re right, I’d make you do it.
How much you payin? I’ll happily take your money
It’s a back sight check alright, a little over done in my opinion.
Since no one else has answered this, look at the drawing. Obviously if you know anything about construction and framing you notice the two triangles and they are pivoting towards each other. This measurement is typical for new construction and it shows you, that there is a mark on your beam which I have no idea what it represents.
Ahh you had me in the first half! 😂
Reminds me of Dave Barry’s etymology of the word eggnog: “‘egg’ from the English word ‘egg’, which means: egg, and I don’t know where ‘nog’ comes from”.
Lock the comments. This one's solved.
It looks like a center of gravity mark
I wanted to post a snarky response but can’t think of one. It’s a survey target.
Seems like a dick move, why wouldn't they have a sticker that's A more accurate and B doesn't leave a mark on someone's fence
My experience with surveys so far is on par with that. I have a milestone on my property line and the other properties are cut off from it by a creek. I know the 4 surveying guys in our town by now and I keep finding them at random times in my yard. All I ask for is a quick ring of my bell and a heads up. I know that they have the legal right to be there, but they could be less entitled about it. It would be a shame if my 4 year old finds the stone with a pick axe one day.
Common sense isn’t as common as you’d think, and not only that but if it is a survey mark, could have been the guys first day/week/month. Never know. This world is just full of surprises.
It’s sharpie? Wipe it off with alcohol.
It's this, it's a survey target used to locate setups. I'm guessing there is some construction nearby. Am surveyor
Do yall really just make up people's property?
Yeah, we don't give a fuck. Sometimes I use a branding iron so people can't just scrub it off.
😂
It means Triangles
No, I'm afraid it means a square has been bisected and flipped over top itself. Only a psychopath full of square hate would do something like this.
Acetone will make it history.
Don't use acetone, it will take the paint off too. Looks like sharpie. 99% alcohol will get it gone. Even 70% might work.
Sharpie can be removed by using a dry erase marker or highlighter on it
Not on wood, and that's black sharpie. Acetone is the best choice here. Also unsure what alcohol you're suggesting as the 99% leads me to thing grain alcohol (ethanol) and the 70% is usually reserved for commercial isopropyl alcohol. My background on this is I'm a chemist and worked in a lab in college where cleaning glassware was job duty. A lot of the clear glassware would be marked with blue or black sharpie and amber glassware with the silver sharpie. You could take acetone and spray it on the glassware of any color and it would run off with not scrubbing. If you used methanol the blue would run off completely, black required some wiping & the silver required some elbow grease. As changed between alcohols (Increasing the carbon chain), the more scrubbing required to remove the black and silver
They sell 99% iso widely now. It is available.
99% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) easily removes most permanent marker from most surfaces, in my experience. Just spray and wipe. My background: I've done it a whole bunch of times. And I have to keep relabeling my spray bottle full of alcohol because the alcohol keeps taking the sharpie off.
Also, at least in Canada, 99% isopropyl is available at every pharmacy and grocery store up to one litre. I buy gallon jugs from a commercial cleaning supply store. You can buy refined lab grade on Amazon ... it's extremely common. Honestly probably easier to find than 70%.
Costco too. In 4-packs. If you've got a 3D printer and you're not cleaning your print bed with 99% IPA, you're gonna have a bad time.
Like when I’m skiing and I pizza when I’m supposed to french fry?
It isn't on wood, it's on paint my man.
Then redraw it an inch lower.
Try alcohol first.
Technically, taking a photo and documenting the made has already made it history?
My guess would be that’s a survey marker. If they are doing some new construction in the area they would use this to calibrate their transit level. That way everyday they can set up and take down their equipment and still get everything graded at the same level. Hard to build something flat if you move your point of reference everyday.
In permanent marker on a private fence?
Having on an object that is not fixed is increadibly stupid but unfortunately I’ve seen it quite often in the civil industry.
how un-civil-ized
So if it pisses you off that the surveyors marked up your fence, you could go out there every night, clean the mark off with alcohol, and re-mark it a few inches off... how much would that jack the project up?
Wow that is an awesome level of fuckery.
The faint look of dripping below makes me wonder if they also sprayed it with clear enamel.
Thank you!
Looks close to the hobo mark "keep quiet" but not close enough
It’s a target for survey. A benchmark or something.
It's the hobo marking meaning your house has a tie fighter hangar
First comment I lol'd at. And I'm not even a Trekkie.
Former hobo Jedi, can confirm.
It’s a optical survey target. Probably someone trying to figure out boundaries of yards. Basically just a plus sign but they shade in two of the quadrants so you can better see it through the optics. Kind of an a-hole move though. I would have taped a paper one to your fence instead of permanent marking.
A lot of wrong answers here. It’s a survey target
https://owlcation.com/humanities/All-things-HOBO-signs-and-symbols
I did not find this on hobo symbols. It _is_ used as a surveyor mark.
It’s pretty well decided that dude (Leon Livingston) made all those up for his books in the early 1900’s. I’ve yet to meet anyone who says it was actually used widespread like people think.
illuminati confirmed
It is a survey point that some asshole sharpies on your fence instead of using a laminated one that he could have just taped to the fence. My guess, is the guy got tired of people tearing his laminated cards off of their fences and instead of evolving into a guy that would be mature enough to start leaving flyers on peoples doors to explain the purpose of the laminated card being taped or siliconed to their fence, so that they will leave it alone for the duration of their civil project, he went straight to dickhead and started doing it with sharpie.
So if it pisses the homeowner off, they could clean it off with alcohol, and re-draw it a few inches/feet off? Like, every night? Would that mess up the project at some point?
I too am interested in this answer
Someone is asking you if you want to just touch tips.
Surveyors target
I am surprised no one has answered correctly. It's an extinction rebellion tag, it represents an hour glass. It represents hour time running out as a civilization as climate change gets worse. Not surprised to see it in a progressive area like the Bay area.
Looks like you got a serial HSBC banker on the loose in your area.
Child with a sharpie used to live here?
Do you have kids? There's your answer
A bored teenager was my first thought. Didn’t know the Hobo Code upgraded.
It's hobo mark for secure camping but keep quiet
Umbrella corporation.
WuTang?
Riften thieves guild marking.
Egg Timer Gang claiming territory.
According to the burglary symbols guide, typical symbols include circles, barred circles, triangles, ladder-like lines, crosses, and letter codes (e.g., M for empty in the morning, N for empty at night). The symbol on your fence does not match these descriptions. The specific symbol on your fence does not appear to be directly associated with any known gang markings from what I can gather.
This is teenager symbol for "I have obtained a marker and I'm bored"
Why would a gang mark a home to rob instead of simply robbing it?
Small fallout shelter?
I'm going to venture a guess and say they were trying to initial zero with an optic/sight with a bore laser and needed a longer distance from their location.
Some moron is fascinated with a sharpie lol
It means some asshole had a sharpie.
Butterfly Man
CG of your fence.
Watch out
Dognappers hun, shared Mozambique xx