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Is there any new info on March 7th's alt form, other than her possibly coming out in 2.4 and she's likely a buffer type? Like if she's a limited 5* like DHIL or if the game will give it to us similar to the TBs other pathways?
i can’t believe jiaoqiu is finally being dripped in a few days, this guys appearance has been hyped up for so long
Also I selfishly hope Yunli is hideously ugly and annoyingly and terrible in meta because i NEED to skip a patch
Ive been tryting to build gui as a sub dps debuffer for acheron, heres her [build](https://imgur.com/a/spN8bXG)
she doesnt do a lot of dot damage, she hits about 11-22k on fully debuffed enemy, is this normal or is there a way to get it higher? I dont have kafka.
Her attack is actually not bad but her EHR might need to be a bit higher. If you have her with Pela, 57% is enough because of one of her major traces. If not, 67%.
She is not going to do a lot of damage in an Acheron team especially since the only Burns she would proc on her Ultimate are her own. But she is mostly going to be there for debuffing every turn (basic, skill or ultimate) and for her Firekiss debuff.
WuWa pulls
>!YOU GUYS...I GOT HIM...I GOT JIYAN!!!!!! 🥹🥹 it took 70 pulls on the dot...I was so scared when it suddenly turned gold lmao...and it doesn't end there!! I did a ten-pull on the standard weapon banner because I figured I needed good weapons more than characters. I'd targeted the 5* Sword and I got it in the first multi!!!!! So now my Danjin has a good sword hehe!!!!!<
>!Also now that I figured out how to play Danjin, she's amazing???? She melted the ape's HP bar which is a nice discovery considering the ape wiped out my party on my first fight lol. I just farmed it for Jianxin and now Jinyan needs it too...very glad I have no plans to build any more Aero units.!<
OT gaming
>!I don't really care about exclusives one way or the other. But I find it annoying how much some people do. It feels like every time Bloodborne is brought up, someone has to chime in and say "oh man if only it were on PC" instead of commenting on the actual game. The pro-exclusives people that love that PS has games like that are just as bad (if not worse).!<
I have Luocha, Natasha and Gallagher as my sustain characters and pretty much only Luocha is built.
I'm now considering getting Fu Xuan, however I don't know whether building Gallagher and having him + Luocha would be enough as my sustain characters to get Robin instead (I don't have Sparkle or RM).
Essentially my question is: Is benefit from having Robin greater than the downgrade from Fu Xuan to Gallagher?
Gallagher is a sustain that'll let you comfortably clear moc provided you can kill the enemies fast enough.
In my account I pulled Robin as my first limited harmony but my ratio team still couldn't clear one side before getting killed or delayed by those blue enemies. I continued to pull on Robin's banner and got e1 immediately after I was able to clear with Gallagher as sustain since I killed the irritating enemy fast enough.
So I'll say Gallagher is as comfortable a sustain fuxuan is if you clear fast enough if not you'll start feeling the difference between a limited and a non limited sustain.
The answer to your question boils down to how strong is your dps since that's the place the five star sustain would come in clutch, saving your team and thus your whole run.
relic ranting
>!I have sooo many watchmaker speed boots with break to the point where I'm scrapping them. even more heads with break and speed, and numerous double crit pieces I will likely never use...!<
>!but for the life of me, I can't get a single hands with break and speed. I don't even need it to roll into speed I'll be perfectly happy with the base 2 sub roll, you're supposed to be one of the easy slots to get. I'm supposed to be complaining about chest and boots main stat not head! and don't get me started on my Pioneer pieces...!<
>!and even as typing this I get another basically perfect head piece and speed boots... whhyyy...!<
rl / crush
>!i have THE BIGGEST CRUSH on a guy at work which is very weird because I've consistently only dated girls so idk if im actually bi or just making an exception. anwyays the exception is painful, im so into him im this close to learning how to play magic for him, im ridiculous!<
back to hsr, very curious to see if next MoC will remind me life is suffering or if the blessings/teams needed will be as good to me as this PF....
>!i think for me it's more that i really admire the fact he's very engaged politically (far left) and knowledgeable about even the politics of our neighboring countries, he enjoys tabletop games with a boyish abandon that i find very endearing because when he's not playing he can be very sardonic and deadpan, so that's a nice gap moe... He's not ugly for sure, but it's not a case of "this is the most handsome man ever", i just like clever, chaotic neutral people ! i still love women more than anything else though!<
>!It sounds like you're bi with a strong preference for women. I'm the same. Not many guys do it for me but when they do it's undeniable.!<
>!Good luck!<
No. FF needs HMC and while not required, losing RM will see a significant damage drop. You'd basically be kneecapping both JL and FF by putting them in the same team as neither of them benefit from the other's presence and either one's damage isn't enough to make up for losing their preferred harmonies.
Not answering your question directly but I'd like to share this FF, Gallagher, HMC, Pela [1 cycle showcase](https://youtu.be/vMAHrGtijgA?feature=shared) since you are coincidentally asking about it. It's V3 before the nerfs and with 2.1 MoC Blessing though.
I was weighing if I want to go for Jade to make PF comfier, but then I realized I don't really struggle with the FUA ones, just the dot ones. It'd be sooo nice if she had a dot too to match her poison theme...
And then I realized.. dot with FuA and some good AOE? That's just Kafka lol. Sold myself on finally getting Kafka rather than Jade haha, whenever she eventually reruns I guess.
You need to do basically 6 sets of assignments that take 4 hours each, plus time you aren't logging or don't start the next one.
You only need to talk to an NPC to get the assignment screen unlocked so just do that ASAP?
It's got a few mini games but otherwise it depends on how much you're reading? I would say only a few hours if you're not paying close attention to the text, with one break from the editing part to go on a fetch quest.
Meta question, ignore or downvote if you want:
Comparing Robin and Boothill with unit like Firefly in mind. Why would i want to pull for boothill?
He's only better than FF at single target, yet we dont have any mode with exclusively single target. Even the new boss rush mode is filled with mobs, and FF is undoubtedly better than him at this mode and also MoC (which never has pure single target fight to begin with).
FF new relic, planar, f2p LC, all are much better than BH's options. They are both dps with weakness application and contest over same pool of supports (RM, Gallagher and HMC to the lesser extend).
Now since there are less than 24h till Robin banner is over, why do i want BH over Robin? When she's atleast good/usable in all 3 end game modes?
Tldr: I've prefarmed everything for BH and his sig but now considering to abadon all that mats to just get robin and wait for FF.
There performance in terms of cycles is very similar that it ends up being down to preference. If I was in your situation, I would pull him just because I have his mars already.
So far Boothill has the only non-whale MoC 12 clear where not a single person takes damage. Personally, I'm on the fence, might skip him for Feixiao regardless.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Wf421d7jR
Boothill and firefly are clearing at the exact same speed in both moc and abyssal shadow through dozens of showcases. Regardless of his target selection his damage is just that good. And his synergy with bronya really makes him pop
I'd take Boothill over Firefly, because I like him and his animations more. Firefly in terms of writing was so far a string of disapointments for me. But I'd choose Robin over Boothill everyday, because
1. I like her even more
2. I'm living that FuA lifestyle 😎: the only dps on my account that doesn't have her in their best team is DHIL
3. I like her song and I'll take it over every combat music expect a few bosses
But then Boothill looks very fun to use and I'll have hard time skipping him tbh. And depending on the 2.4 drip marketing and leaks I'll might end up going for him afterall.
You can find a lot of reasons to pull one of them or not pull for any of them, it all depends from what you like. In my opinion it doesnt worth to pull both Firefly and Boothill due to both of them being kinda similar in their role, bit outside of it all depend from state of your account and what you like.
BH has better compatibility with non Break supports; you can arguably get away with Bronya+one Break support and have it be workable, as Bronya boosts Boothill's toughness damage rate from having multiple turns.
Boothill is "single target", but he's actually closer to a Destruction character in terms of fight preference because he wants to obtain Pocket Trickshots quickly. This means he wants something that is easy to Break on the side.
Also, although both Firefly and BH have weakness implant, having to weakness implant still slows them down significantly because you need to wait for the Ult to weakness implant with; they still prefer hitting their own weakness (although they can arguably get away with Imaginary weakness instead by having HMC substitute some toughness damage while waiting around for the Ult). Keep in mind that weakness implant does not necessarily lower the RES appropriately, so a Boothill against a Phys weak enemy will have that advantage if Firefly attempts that same enemy.
It feels like hoyo themselves don’t know want people pulling for him, the changes to the planar and new game mode say as much. The hype for him wasn’t even allowed to survive until his release because we’re supposed to pull ff instead. I’ll pull him because he’s grown on me and he looks fun but the blatant favoritism has completely soured me on this whole situation and how hoyo treats their non faves.. atp i wouldn’t even use firefly if she was given for free because of how much everything was molded for her and her alone. Definitely the meta pick but makes me feel disgusted.
As for Robin vs Boothill, yeah robin is the better meta pull but also if you’re already clearing it’s worth asking what you get out of clearing even harder. That’s at least my thought process on every new harmony
Fair enough, she does really thrive in pf. Not an insta win button but especially if you have some other fua units, she really makes the runs pop off. And since you like has just as much, it’s a safe choice. Could also snag boothill on low pity if you’re lucky.
Boothill should still help with the new mode considering the break focus but it’s kind of hard to recommend him for that without the mode being out >.< we did have showcases but the enemies got buffed so they’re not 1:1 anymore
Yeah.. imo destruction and in general op aoe units are poorly designed at this point, doesn’t feel like they have enough drawbacks compared to other paths. If you can destroy both st and aoe why would you go for just st, it’s more of a handicap than anything. Hunt class whole identity feels like a flaw because of how our endgame and other units are designed :/ they still perform fine in moc but the design philosophy is kind of ass. Aoe units like acheron and destruction trio don’t get punished by st content but st carries get punished by aoe content. At least erudition isn’t this dumb, they’re generally worse picks with less mobs but destruction characters hoyo decides to overtune just throw everything out of order. I’m sure they’ll manage to overtune some upcoming hunt characters to have aoe too but that doesn’t make the path as a whole feel any better
I'm fully aware that either Robin or Firefly are much better pulls for my account when it comes to meta. But Boothill just looks more fun to play. I like fun so I will attempt to get Boothill. If I lose the 50/50 then Firefly will be my consolation prize.
there's 0 meta reasons to pull for boothill if you are comparing with Firefly. She's the golden child, there's almost no way she will not be better in almost every way.
personally, I am very comfortable in endgame right now, so I know I can confidently pull for Boothill and enjoy any Physical-weak content because I really love Luka's playstyle and Boothill is the level up of that. I don't need either Firefly or Robin so I don't feel pressured to pull for them at all.
Lol well hopefully there is a new Hunt character that would interest you. Moze is supposedly Lightning Hunt???? The 2 to 1 conversion of trace materials is not that great and is such a waste.
Robin is definitely great especially if you have dual/triple DPS teams. She is also a good sidegrade (downgrade?) for Ruan mei for DoT teams.
I am not going to do Firefly/Boothill comparisons. But I just want to see Boothill deplete most of the elite bosses' HP in one hit. That is going to be so much fun.
Is RM worth it if I have Robin and Sparkle? I'm pulling for Fu Xuan in the upcoming banner and if I get her early I was planning on saving the rest of my pulls for Firefly. I could really use another 5* main DPS and it seems like she's going to be good. However, my impression is that RM is all but mandatory for a lot of DPSs, including Firefly.
I don't want to to pass her up if she really is that essential, but I also don't want to give up a 5* DPS I really want if I don't have to
[these are the characters I have right now](https://imgur.com/a/MBuHK9F)
RM isn’t mandatory but she’s by far FF’s best support after IMC. If you don’t have the pulls for RM, then Pela/Bronya/Asta can be used to substitute and still be okay.
For example, look at this vid with Pela instead of RM. It’s a little outdated since it’s V3 and FF does have her lc, but her team and relics are all pretty realistic to obtain, and she still clears within 3 cycles.
https://youtu.be/kZQYLJK_Wfk?feature=shared
If you going to pull Firefly - yes, you want to have RM. If not then in all teams except break teams you can use Robin on Ruan place and it will works fine (sometimes with slightly harder sp managment)
Y'all I finally cleared PF with exactly 60k points 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹 I didn't realize I had to focus on the elites and thought Kafka would just keep summoning more 😭 Right after I stress built Gui and did a 10 pull for Robin E1, Himeko came home to save me 🥺
I used Topaz/Aventurine/Robin/Himeko and JY/FX/TY/Sparkle! I had RM instead of FX before but I changed it bc I saw ppl getting like 26k with that team while I had 22k with triple harmony 💀 it's giving skill issue bc I barely hit 20k with Lady Fu
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions earlier!
I've been planning to get E1 Topaz, and now that I am 40\~ minutes away from gaining the money to do so I have been struck with the 'What if every decision I have ever made is wrong and getting E1 Robin is the only way to salvage my account' crisis.
To ease my nerves; In a team of E0S1 Aventurine, E2S1 Dr. Ratio, E0S1 Topaz, and E0S0 Robin, getting Topaz's E1 is the way to go? Since Dr. Ratio needs debuffs, and Topaz's E1 helps with getting those up quicker. Robin's E1 is better for damage, but I think the consistency with Dr. Ratio is overall more useful? Right??? Plus Robin will re-run quicker than Topaz will re-run again...
Watch me lose the 50/50 and all of this stress be for nothing lmao
Edit: E1 Robin it is then! I am far too socially anxious to think of unique replies to each reply I got, so I'm just gonna edit this instead. Thank you all very much for the help! :D
You have enough debuffs to ensure Ratio always procs his FUA attack, since you have Aventurine's LC, which makes Topaz E1 unnecessary. I play the IP3 team & also have Aventurine's & Topaz LC & had never issues with debuff uptime. If necessary, you can use Ratio's technique to add another SPD debuff in MoC for example.
E1 Robin is the way to to go, she becomes even more cracked.
E1 Robin is nuts.
I tested with Robin supports with my Seele, with E0 Robin my Seele did 120K with ult, with E0 Ruan Mei she did 120K with ult, with E1 Robin she did 180K.
That damage bump was absolute insanity, this was against Cocolia.
I think Robin E1 would be the better choice for this team and for an account overall right? Topaz with S1 already provides 2 debuffs and Ratio has his technique, E1, and his trace, Aven has ult and S1 and between all of those, consistency wouldn't be an issue. I think I saw calcs before that have compared this and Robin E1 was better by quite a bit across every metric.
Edit: [I found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/TopazMainsHSR/comments/1coinmb/e1_topaz_vs_e1_robin_some_calculations/)
I have Aventurine S1 and Ratio gets enough debuffs from Numby, his EFF RES debuff and Aventurine's Vulnerability. It does require Aventurine to use at least one FUA though so it only depends on whether you like Topaz enough to invest more.
I also happened to have anxiety pulled Robin's E1 today due to the lack of Sunday news but that's another story.
S1 Ratio and E0S1 Topaz are already 3 debuffs so fup is guaranteed. And you can get the rest from Aventurine to maximize his "5 debuffs" trace. So it's not necessary, just a bit of comfort. A little bit.
E1 Robin will be better. S1 Topaz is already enough by itself if the rest of the team is E0S0. However you also have S1 Aventurine to add consistency so debuffs won't be a problem at all.
>S1 Topaz is already enough by itself if the rest of the team is E0S0
No, it's only two debuffs and gambling on Ratio's 60% probability of applying debuff on his skill
You’re also getting a debuff from Aventurine’s s1 and a less consistent one from Aventurine’s ult. With s1 topaz and Ratio’s inconsistent debuff on top of that you have plenty of debuffs even without e1 Topaz.
You have:
1) Ratio’s technique, 1 debuff to everything in the first wave
2) Ratio’s own debuff, which you would nearly guaranteed to apply before his technique runs out.
3) Aventurine ultimate, lasts 3 turns
4) Break damage
Between these and S1, you will have enough debuffs 99% of the time. I use similar lineup and it just takes some planning with Aventurine’s ultimate for the second wave.
>Ratio’s technique, 1 debuff to everything in the first wave
Same problem - not guaranteed. Only 60% chance against big chonky bois.
>Ratio’s own debuff, which you would nearly guaranteed to apply before his technique runs out.
Still gambling on the fact that technique applied debuff.
>Aventurine ultimate, lasts 3 turns
Not available in the beginning of fight when Ratio needs it the most. And good luck switching targets.
>Break damage
Same problem. He needs his debuffs the most in the beginning of fight. Not balls deep into it.
Yes, it's manageable, I played myself like that, but it still was painful. Gladly eidolon for Topaz cost me 5 pulls so it wasn't a gamechanging decision for me.
Aventurine has really broken my brain, I'm picking a team for SU and start stressing about who I wanna use as a sustain this time and then go "oh right Aventurine is the sustain and not a dps". Or I'm picking my 2nd MoC team and forget to add a sustain because "the first team doesn't have one either" but Aventurine is there.
Do we actually need to level up FF's skill in V4? I see people saying they need to level it up now for the extra energy but on Hakushin and HomDGCat it shows that the energy doesn't change with the trace level.
Yes, because it gives her more leeway against enemies that drain energy.
On both Hakushin and HomDGCat it says it goes from 50% at lvl 1 to 60% at lvl 10 for me.
Were you just looking at the level 10 stats perhaps?
Energy changes on hakushi, it's just not orange number yet. In most cases you dont need to level up skill but against tv enemies or aventurine boss you actually want to level it up for avoiding energy issues after their energy drain.
They need to make a "Furina", a harmony that buffs HP scaling characters like Blade and also characters that love to kill themselves like Jingliu, Blade and Jade who turns any character into a suicidal DPS, which would make "Furina" shine a lot.
A team with Blade, Jade, "Furina", sustain, would be a way to bring Blade to current DPS check.
Give me an EHR DoT buffer Mihoyo. Ruan Mei is getting stuck to break once those comps get moving, and Robin is a FuA buffer. Don't leave DoT out of having insanely broken personalized Harmonies Mihoyo.
Finally have time from month-end hell and bump my achievement toward 760! Man this month is really rough, I wonder how I will survive doing 2-3 jobs at the same time next month again.... Not really looking forward to it. But oh well I signed up for it myself, time to giddy up!
The achievement though...
>!"The feathers he dropped" just shattered my heart 😭!<
Passively get CC immunity or cleanse for the party, better toughness damage (as in AoE toughness damage, Gallagher already has massive ST toughness damage and I don't think they would give a sustainer a higher amount than that), better sustain and a higher ammount of break related buffs or debuffs. Since FF already has a hefty vuln mod between her signature and her ult, my guess is that this hypothetic sustainer would go for either def down, res down, party wide break efficiency or break effect buffs.
They need to be fire for them to be a proper Firefly support and with how Firefly kit works they would most likely be abundance as well.
Because FF already heals, I'd said a preservation with chip healing and shields instead of full healing. Let them continue to have a ton of weakness break damage on their own attacks, but implant Imaginary to make sure Hatblazer is always doing toughness damage.
Imaginary weakness implant. Right now against non-imaginary weak enemies you don’t benefit from HTB’s high toughness damage. Also imprisoned >> fire break for super break teams thanks to the action delay.
maybe a break efficency buff for the entire party? or more general healing like just doing toughness damage/hitting a broken enemy heals you. hard to think of further BE buffs that RM doesnt already provide that'd just make BE teams even stronger.
topaz gets too much slander. i think shes a good pull. shes not as core as kafka is to DoT but just like her, she can almost always abuse blessings in moc and pf.
i 40k side 1 with her/aven/robin/himeko using dot blessing like cmon, thats pretty good for a hunt unit on pf. the stupid wine spiller mob is the biggest blocker in side 1 and topaz just shreds him
topaz is probably one of the most misunderstood characters in the game, meta-wise. It took quite a while for people to realize that she's not purely a follow-up buffer - I remember there were people saying she's a Jing Yuan support of all things. Granted, the idea of dual-DPS teams were vastly overshadowed by DHIL and Jingliu at the time.
Ratio raised her stocks a lot, but even without him in the picture, Topaz already has plenty of teammates that can work together with her. She's also getting even more relevant in PF with the increased focus on Elites and the natural synergy she has with aoe follow-ups. Definitely a high value pull for follow-up enthusiasts, even without e1 or s1. The problem with Topaz is that she will never be the flashy carry or support, since she's a mix of both, so it's easy to be underwhelmed.
Also, meta unrelated, but the numpy animations are adorable, I just love yeeting the pig.
She was underpowered for a long time and still requires a lot of investment to be good, and as the "FUA support," still isn't definitively best in slot for anyone besides Ratio. JY doesn't need her, Clara doesn't need her, etc.
They really were too scared of her scaling with future FUA chars, but oddly weren't as conservative with Kafka.
She's maybe my favorite (pullable) char but definitely got the short end of the stick power-wise. Feels better now with sig/Ratio/Robin/Aven, but that's a lot of investment for what's presumably supposed to be a core FUA support on her own.
She is definitely Robin and Aventurine’s BIS partners. She fuels Aventurine FUA like no other, and she is the best energy generator and damage carrier for Robin. Subsequently, these two are also her best partners, pushing Numby forward, and providing high attack/CD.
People also usually talk about her only as a debuffer, when she is also a very good damager by herself. Her skill is actually a 225% damage attack when you also consider her debuff (think of her damage as split between her modifier and her debuff), which is about what Seele’s modifier is, and with the FUA team you can get 5-6 attacks per cycle. I have a well invested Topaz with around 80/180 CV, and she is almost like a second hypercarry when you add up all her damage from her multiple attacks.
I mean, obviously I meant as a support for a DPS (team), not Robin and Aventurine. They go along with the Ratio+Topaz team. She's also pretty unviable as a hypercarry, or at least not limited 5* worthy.
A build that good, with presumably good supports, can 2 cycle the best boss in the game for that char on MoC 11, not even 12? That's pretty underwhelming for a limited 5* DPS. Sure, she's really more of a support, but again, only definitively BiS in Ratio teams. Like she should be clear BiS in Clara, JY, etc teams, but they just weren't willing to give her enough.
I mean, that’s the only fire weak enemy right now in MOC. I am pretty sure I can get similar results in 12 (btw, I redid it right now and I got a 1 cycle clear). Anyway, JY is not really a FUA unit, he is a hypercarry with a FUA attack, same as Blade or even YQ. Clara is excellent with Topaz, and I’ve used her heavily in the same FUA team. I’ve used her with Himeko to great success in fire-weak stages, heck I used her in PF 4/1 with the DOT turbulence yesterday and got a 40k score.
Also, FUA is a game archtype, so there will 100% be more FUA characters. Any future FUA character can benefit from her, the more they lean to FUA, the better.
Edit: I did 2 cycles Kafka 12-2, with Clara/Topaz on unoptimized gameplay. I mean c’mon, your standards must be incredibly high if you want something much faster lol.
From my experience playing Genshin and Arknights it feels so, so off how fast the trailblazer levels goes. The fact that I started in 1.6 and I'm already half a level away from 70 is so weird LMAO.
I like that bar going up over time so it's kinda sad ngl q_q
True, I remember back when I played Genshin during the release era and I only reached WL 60 around the 2.0 mark, I was like "FINALLY this took ages"
Then when I started HSR I randomly opened the menu and I was like "wait I'm 70 already wtf"
from a meta perspective or whatever, no. but you don't have to follow meta to beat endgame content at all, so if you like arlan and want to invest in him and his team then go for it
He's probably the worst DPS in the game tbh (out of the actual DPS characters, not meme support DPS teams). That said, if you want to use him to clear story content you can with proper limited supports and sustains.
My goodness I’ve been testing out robin with my half baked IPC team and she’s been pretty good
But I just tested her with Clara (and Topaz) and the last minute pull desire is stronger than ever, the damage difference for E0 Clara is absolutely mental she just melted that stupid blue bug.
Pull budgeting was so much easier in 1.x now I need to be like “what if I really love every character from 2.4 to 2.6”
Who have you lost 50/50 to the most?
>!This is a poorly disguised salt post to complain about my E4 Welt. On every fucking Nihility 5 star I get Nihility screen and its Welt.!<
Bailu: she's the only one so far that appeared on my 50/50s twice. But funnily enough it's Bronya that has the highest eidolon out of every standard and it's not like I picked her on my selector.
E3 Bronya and E2 Clara, but I got Bronya from the 300 standard mark as well as some from standard, and most of my 50/50s lost were Clara. So I guess Clara.
Actually I just remembered I also have E2 Bailu. Guess my 50/50 losses are pretty balanced lmao.
Fun fact: I still don't have Yanqing (Not complaining tho)
Let's just say, from having 0 Himeko back in December, I now have an E2 Himeko as of this banner. (My Clara is also E2, but I can never be salty against my child).
E6 Welt is cracked though, so you're on your way.
For me, it's E1 Himeko/Clara/Welt, but I'm on a 5 straight 50/50 winstreak and haven't lost a 50/50 since Topaz? Or maybe RM, don't remember too well. Still no Gepard or Bailu, lol.
I have abysmally poor 5050 win record but my consolation prize is that I lost most of them to Bronya. She's at E4S1. All from losing on banner. Although...with so many broken harmonys as of late, she isn't as crucial as she once was.
Bailu.
She's mostly fine but her lack of cleanse hurts sometimes, and I still only have one limited sustain (Aventurine), so I'm fine with it. But I fully expect to replace her with another limited sustain soon.
Bailu E5! Although I don’t want to lose any more 50/50s (20% win rate ._.), if I do I want her E6 just as a capstone - I still like the character and she did carry me in MoC until I got Aventurine.
Bailu E3. She carried me early game though and she's a cutie so I occasionally use her in MoC anyway despite having 3 limited sustains. Multiplication and her invigoration go hard.
Kinda wish I lost more to Welt or Yanqing though, I want Welt's E1 and Yanqing's E2/E4.
For me its e1 Gepard despite having e3 Bronya.
I rerolled for 1 Bronya (beginner banner), selected her at 300, got 1 on standard, and lost 1 50/50 (literally 4 different sources).
For the other standards I have at e1 (Clara + Himeko + Yanqing) I'm pretty sure I got 1 off standard, so only Gepard caused me 2 50/50 losses.
e2 bronya. Not upset at all. lol. Still no Himeko/Clara who apart from Bronya were my 3 most wanted characters. This feels like Tighari/Dehya for me again.
Yanqing. That kid ruins my joy everytime I'm getting a 5 star (whether it's standard or limited). I want him to be GONE! Iirc he's E3 now. 😑
Just where are Welt, Himeko, Clara, Bronya? No, it's Honkai: Star Yanqing for you only, enjoy.
One man's trash is another man's treasure, I guess. I am so jealous of your E4 Welt. I used the 5* selector to get my only Welt.
(Trade you my E4 Yanqing? See, it could be worse.)
My Gepard is E3. He is the only 5* I have Eidolons on at all.
I'm not mad about it because I use him regularly (with Trend, he goes great with Acheron, and he's great fun for SU runs with preservation path too), but it is very funny that it's always him.
Himeko/Herta/Robin/Aventurine was an easy 40k side one for me, which is good because side two I only could get 25k
I intend to build some dot units eventually, though I will probably wait until a Kafka rerun
Keep carrying me Herta 😘
I'm unsure what planar sets to farm for the bonus before it ends.
Units I'm interested in picking up are a break dps (Feixiao or BH/FF), HH rerun, maybe Jiaoqiu.
I'm wondering if it's still worth it to grab some fleet of the ageless? Already have a lot of relics from farming world 7 for so long so a lot of penacony pieces.
Otherwise I guess talia just in case I'll pick BH or it might be best for Feixiao.
Or Salsatto should Feixiao want it plus maybe an upgrade for JY?
Decision help would be appreciated.
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Is there any new info on March 7th's alt form, other than her possibly coming out in 2.4 and she's likely a buffer type? Like if she's a limited 5* like DHIL or if the game will give it to us similar to the TBs other pathways?
devs said similar to TB in stream, so presumably using the path change interface but that doesn't tell us how you get eidolons or access to it.
thank you, bcs i only came back to the game recently so i havent watched any of the streams for a few patches.
i can’t believe jiaoqiu is finally being dripped in a few days, this guys appearance has been hyped up for so long Also I selfishly hope Yunli is hideously ugly and annoyingly and terrible in meta because i NEED to skip a patch
[Hook gaming](https://imgur.com/a/OZyHqfz)
Nothing has done more to turn me off of WuWa than WuWa fans lmao
Do we know if March is getting a seperate character like DHIL or is it a path change like TB? Do we know the new path?
I recant everything 😭😭😭
definitely new character, 5* version of 4* would sell too well to pass up. Leaks have said she has buffing capabilities
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Ive been tryting to build gui as a sub dps debuffer for acheron, heres her [build](https://imgur.com/a/spN8bXG) she doesnt do a lot of dot damage, she hits about 11-22k on fully debuffed enemy, is this normal or is there a way to get it higher? I dont have kafka.
Her attack is actually not bad but her EHR might need to be a bit higher. If you have her with Pela, 57% is enough because of one of her major traces. If not, 67%. She is not going to do a lot of damage in an Acheron team especially since the only Burns she would proc on her Ultimate are her own. But she is mostly going to be there for debuffing every turn (basic, skill or ultimate) and for her Firekiss debuff.
WuWa pulls >!YOU GUYS...I GOT HIM...I GOT JIYAN!!!!!! 🥹🥹 it took 70 pulls on the dot...I was so scared when it suddenly turned gold lmao...and it doesn't end there!! I did a ten-pull on the standard weapon banner because I figured I needed good weapons more than characters. I'd targeted the 5* Sword and I got it in the first multi!!!!! So now my Danjin has a good sword hehe!!!!!< >!Also now that I figured out how to play Danjin, she's amazing???? She melted the ape's HP bar which is a nice discovery considering the ape wiped out my party on my first fight lol. I just farmed it for Jianxin and now Jinyan needs it too...very glad I have no plans to build any more Aero units.!<
Congrats! Jiyan looks so cool and I've been tempted but I'm saving for Jinhsi right now.
OT gaming >!I don't really care about exclusives one way or the other. But I find it annoying how much some people do. It feels like every time Bloodborne is brought up, someone has to chime in and say "oh man if only it were on PC" instead of commenting on the actual game. The pro-exclusives people that love that PS has games like that are just as bad (if not worse).!<
I have Luocha, Natasha and Gallagher as my sustain characters and pretty much only Luocha is built. I'm now considering getting Fu Xuan, however I don't know whether building Gallagher and having him + Luocha would be enough as my sustain characters to get Robin instead (I don't have Sparkle or RM). Essentially my question is: Is benefit from having Robin greater than the downgrade from Fu Xuan to Gallagher?
5\* sustains is the most luxury thing in the game. They're barely needed.
Gallagher is a sustain that'll let you comfortably clear moc provided you can kill the enemies fast enough. In my account I pulled Robin as my first limited harmony but my ratio team still couldn't clear one side before getting killed or delayed by those blue enemies. I continued to pull on Robin's banner and got e1 immediately after I was able to clear with Gallagher as sustain since I killed the irritating enemy fast enough. So I'll say Gallagher is as comfortable a sustain fuxuan is if you clear fast enough if not you'll start feeling the difference between a limited and a non limited sustain. The answer to your question boils down to how strong is your dps since that's the place the five star sustain would come in clutch, saving your team and thus your whole run.
thank you both of you :)
relic ranting >!I have sooo many watchmaker speed boots with break to the point where I'm scrapping them. even more heads with break and speed, and numerous double crit pieces I will likely never use...!< >!but for the life of me, I can't get a single hands with break and speed. I don't even need it to roll into speed I'll be perfectly happy with the base 2 sub roll, you're supposed to be one of the easy slots to get. I'm supposed to be complaining about chest and boots main stat not head! and don't get me started on my Pioneer pieces...!< >!and even as typing this I get another basically perfect head piece and speed boots... whhyyy...!<
rl / crush >!i have THE BIGGEST CRUSH on a guy at work which is very weird because I've consistently only dated girls so idk if im actually bi or just making an exception. anwyays the exception is painful, im so into him im this close to learning how to play magic for him, im ridiculous!< back to hsr, very curious to see if next MoC will remind me life is suffering or if the blessings/teams needed will be as good to me as this PF....
Just how hot is he lol
>!i think for me it's more that i really admire the fact he's very engaged politically (far left) and knowledgeable about even the politics of our neighboring countries, he enjoys tabletop games with a boyish abandon that i find very endearing because when he's not playing he can be very sardonic and deadpan, so that's a nice gap moe... He's not ugly for sure, but it's not a case of "this is the most handsome man ever", i just like clever, chaotic neutral people ! i still love women more than anything else though!<
>!It sounds like you're bi with a strong preference for women. I'm the same. Not many guys do it for me but when they do it's undeniable.!< >!Good luck!<
>!you're right ! I'm like 95% into women and 5% into guys, some times (but usually they're like, dev patel, so it didn't count...) and thank you 😫!<
Welt/jiaoqiu/robin may be my go to team for acheron, cant wait for his beta.
On my knees begging five star March to be an abundance or preservation so I can comfortably run a full astral express team
Break Effect Welt + HMC is a good pseudo sustain comp
Will Firefly be good in double dps teams? I would like to try something like Jingliu, FF, Gallagher, Robin/HMC
With E1, you could probably do a funny FF, Boothill, HMC, RM team.
No. FF needs HMC and while not required, losing RM will see a significant damage drop. You'd basically be kneecapping both JL and FF by putting them in the same team as neither of them benefit from the other's presence and either one's damage isn't enough to make up for losing their preferred harmonies.
Then how do you think which team would be stronger, JL, Gallagher, Robin, Asta/Pela or FF, Gallagher, HMC, Asta/Pela
Not answering your question directly but I'd like to share this FF, Gallagher, HMC, Pela [1 cycle showcase](https://youtu.be/vMAHrGtijgA?feature=shared) since you are coincidentally asking about it. It's V3 before the nerfs and with 2.1 MoC Blessing though.
No. And Robin is also a bad teammate for Firefly. (Her ATK buff does nothing for her and she can't generate SP)
no. the only situation where you can really do so is in Pure Fiction with Himeko + Firerfly.
I was weighing if I want to go for Jade to make PF comfier, but then I realized I don't really struggle with the FUA ones, just the dot ones. It'd be sooo nice if she had a dot too to match her poison theme... And then I realized.. dot with FuA and some good AOE? That's just Kafka lol. Sold myself on finally getting Kafka rather than Jade haha, whenever she eventually reruns I guess.
How long is the current event? As in how long will it take to finish it?
You need to do basically 6 sets of assignments that take 4 hours each, plus time you aren't logging or don't start the next one. You only need to talk to an NPC to get the assignment screen unlocked so just do that ASAP?
Ah right thanks. What about the clocky one? I haven't even began to start it
It's got a few mini games but otherwise it depends on how much you're reading? I would say only a few hours if you're not paying close attention to the text, with one break from the editing part to go on a fetch quest.
I see... Is it voiced or has any playable characters in them? I would skip the dialogue if they weren't any
Boothill and Black swan show up very briefly at the end with some unvoiced lines? That's about it. You also see Micah again but he's not playable.
Oh that's good then. Thanks!
Meta question, ignore or downvote if you want: Comparing Robin and Boothill with unit like Firefly in mind. Why would i want to pull for boothill? He's only better than FF at single target, yet we dont have any mode with exclusively single target. Even the new boss rush mode is filled with mobs, and FF is undoubtedly better than him at this mode and also MoC (which never has pure single target fight to begin with). FF new relic, planar, f2p LC, all are much better than BH's options. They are both dps with weakness application and contest over same pool of supports (RM, Gallagher and HMC to the lesser extend). Now since there are less than 24h till Robin banner is over, why do i want BH over Robin? When she's atleast good/usable in all 3 end game modes? Tldr: I've prefarmed everything for BH and his sig but now considering to abadon all that mats to just get robin and wait for FF.
There performance in terms of cycles is very similar that it ends up being down to preference. If I was in your situation, I would pull him just because I have his mars already.
So far Boothill has the only non-whale MoC 12 clear where not a single person takes damage. Personally, I'm on the fence, might skip him for Feixiao regardless. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Wf421d7jR
Boothill and firefly are clearing at the exact same speed in both moc and abyssal shadow through dozens of showcases. Regardless of his target selection his damage is just that good. And his synergy with bronya really makes him pop
I'd take Boothill over Firefly, because I like him and his animations more. Firefly in terms of writing was so far a string of disapointments for me. But I'd choose Robin over Boothill everyday, because 1. I like her even more 2. I'm living that FuA lifestyle 😎: the only dps on my account that doesn't have her in their best team is DHIL 3. I like her song and I'll take it over every combat music expect a few bosses But then Boothill looks very fun to use and I'll have hard time skipping him tbh. And depending on the 2.4 drip marketing and leaks I'll might end up going for him afterall.
You can find a lot of reasons to pull one of them or not pull for any of them, it all depends from what you like. In my opinion it doesnt worth to pull both Firefly and Boothill due to both of them being kinda similar in their role, bit outside of it all depend from state of your account and what you like.
BH has better compatibility with non Break supports; you can arguably get away with Bronya+one Break support and have it be workable, as Bronya boosts Boothill's toughness damage rate from having multiple turns. Boothill is "single target", but he's actually closer to a Destruction character in terms of fight preference because he wants to obtain Pocket Trickshots quickly. This means he wants something that is easy to Break on the side. Also, although both Firefly and BH have weakness implant, having to weakness implant still slows them down significantly because you need to wait for the Ult to weakness implant with; they still prefer hitting their own weakness (although they can arguably get away with Imaginary weakness instead by having HMC substitute some toughness damage while waiting around for the Ult). Keep in mind that weakness implant does not necessarily lower the RES appropriately, so a Boothill against a Phys weak enemy will have that advantage if Firefly attempts that same enemy.
It feels like hoyo themselves don’t know want people pulling for him, the changes to the planar and new game mode say as much. The hype for him wasn’t even allowed to survive until his release because we’re supposed to pull ff instead. I’ll pull him because he’s grown on me and he looks fun but the blatant favoritism has completely soured me on this whole situation and how hoyo treats their non faves.. atp i wouldn’t even use firefly if she was given for free because of how much everything was molded for her and her alone. Definitely the meta pick but makes me feel disgusted. As for Robin vs Boothill, yeah robin is the better meta pull but also if you’re already clearing it’s worth asking what you get out of clearing even harder. That’s at least my thought process on every new harmony
The new PF stage made me questioning my ability to comfortably clear all endgame contents lol. And BH will definitely not help much there.
Fair enough, she does really thrive in pf. Not an insta win button but especially if you have some other fua units, she really makes the runs pop off. And since you like has just as much, it’s a safe choice. Could also snag boothill on low pity if you’re lucky. Boothill should still help with the new mode considering the break focus but it’s kind of hard to recommend him for that without the mode being out >.< we did have showcases but the enemies got buffed so they’re not 1:1 anymore
Yeah i hate the fact that they make a new mode just to sell more Destruction units instead of Hunt ones...
Yeah.. imo destruction and in general op aoe units are poorly designed at this point, doesn’t feel like they have enough drawbacks compared to other paths. If you can destroy both st and aoe why would you go for just st, it’s more of a handicap than anything. Hunt class whole identity feels like a flaw because of how our endgame and other units are designed :/ they still perform fine in moc but the design philosophy is kind of ass. Aoe units like acheron and destruction trio don’t get punished by st content but st carries get punished by aoe content. At least erudition isn’t this dumb, they’re generally worse picks with less mobs but destruction characters hoyo decides to overtune just throw everything out of order. I’m sure they’ll manage to overtune some upcoming hunt characters to have aoe too but that doesn’t make the path as a whole feel any better
I'm fully aware that either Robin or Firefly are much better pulls for my account when it comes to meta. But Boothill just looks more fun to play. I like fun so I will attempt to get Boothill. If I lose the 50/50 then Firefly will be my consolation prize.
there's 0 meta reasons to pull for boothill if you are comparing with Firefly. She's the golden child, there's almost no way she will not be better in almost every way. personally, I am very comfortable in endgame right now, so I know I can confidently pull for Boothill and enjoy any Physical-weak content because I really love Luka's playstyle and Boothill is the level up of that. I don't need either Firefly or Robin so I don't feel pressured to pull for them at all.
Im comparing meta value of Robin and Boothill. FF comparison is to point out Boothill's flaw.
ninja edited because I misread your post, sorry for the confusion.
Lol well hopefully there is a new Hunt character that would interest you. Moze is supposedly Lightning Hunt???? The 2 to 1 conversion of trace materials is not that great and is such a waste. Robin is definitely great especially if you have dual/triple DPS teams. She is also a good sidegrade (downgrade?) for Ruan mei for DoT teams. I am not going to do Firefly/Boothill comparisons. But I just want to see Boothill deplete most of the elite bosses' HP in one hit. That is going to be so much fun.
>Why would i want to pull for boothill? The only reason is because you love the character. 0 reasons otherwise.
I get that, weirdly enough i love both robin and BH equally, so now meta is the only thing left to decide between the two.
Harmony is always the answer. The only time you struggle who two pull is when you have two harmonies available, but enough pulls only for one.
Is RM worth it if I have Robin and Sparkle? I'm pulling for Fu Xuan in the upcoming banner and if I get her early I was planning on saving the rest of my pulls for Firefly. I could really use another 5* main DPS and it seems like she's going to be good. However, my impression is that RM is all but mandatory for a lot of DPSs, including Firefly. I don't want to to pass her up if she really is that essential, but I also don't want to give up a 5* DPS I really want if I don't have to [these are the characters I have right now](https://imgur.com/a/MBuHK9F)
RM isn’t mandatory but she’s by far FF’s best support after IMC. If you don’t have the pulls for RM, then Pela/Bronya/Asta can be used to substitute and still be okay. For example, look at this vid with Pela instead of RM. It’s a little outdated since it’s V3 and FF does have her lc, but her team and relics are all pretty realistic to obtain, and she still clears within 3 cycles. https://youtu.be/kZQYLJK_Wfk?feature=shared
If you want to run a break or DoT team, then it's basically impossible to justify not pulling RM
If you going to pull Firefly - yes, you want to have RM. If not then in all teams except break teams you can use Robin on Ruan place and it will works fine (sometimes with slightly harder sp managment)
If you want to pull Firefly - RM is necessary. Not in a min maxing way, but really, really necessary.
Y'all I finally cleared PF with exactly 60k points 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹 I didn't realize I had to focus on the elites and thought Kafka would just keep summoning more 😭 Right after I stress built Gui and did a 10 pull for Robin E1, Himeko came home to save me 🥺 I used Topaz/Aventurine/Robin/Himeko and JY/FX/TY/Sparkle! I had RM instead of FX before but I changed it bc I saw ppl getting like 26k with that team while I had 22k with triple harmony 💀 it's giving skill issue bc I barely hit 20k with Lady Fu Thanks to everyone for their suggestions earlier!
I've been planning to get E1 Topaz, and now that I am 40\~ minutes away from gaining the money to do so I have been struck with the 'What if every decision I have ever made is wrong and getting E1 Robin is the only way to salvage my account' crisis. To ease my nerves; In a team of E0S1 Aventurine, E2S1 Dr. Ratio, E0S1 Topaz, and E0S0 Robin, getting Topaz's E1 is the way to go? Since Dr. Ratio needs debuffs, and Topaz's E1 helps with getting those up quicker. Robin's E1 is better for damage, but I think the consistency with Dr. Ratio is overall more useful? Right??? Plus Robin will re-run quicker than Topaz will re-run again... Watch me lose the 50/50 and all of this stress be for nothing lmao Edit: E1 Robin it is then! I am far too socially anxious to think of unique replies to each reply I got, so I'm just gonna edit this instead. Thank you all very much for the help! :D
You have enough debuffs to ensure Ratio always procs his FUA attack, since you have Aventurine's LC, which makes Topaz E1 unnecessary. I play the IP3 team & also have Aventurine's & Topaz LC & had never issues with debuff uptime. If necessary, you can use Ratio's technique to add another SPD debuff in MoC for example. E1 Robin is the way to to go, she becomes even more cracked.
E1 Robin is nuts. I tested with Robin supports with my Seele, with E0 Robin my Seele did 120K with ult, with E0 Ruan Mei she did 120K with ult, with E1 Robin she did 180K. That damage bump was absolute insanity, this was against Cocolia.
I think Robin E1 would be the better choice for this team and for an account overall right? Topaz with S1 already provides 2 debuffs and Ratio has his technique, E1, and his trace, Aven has ult and S1 and between all of those, consistency wouldn't be an issue. I think I saw calcs before that have compared this and Robin E1 was better by quite a bit across every metric. Edit: [I found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/TopazMainsHSR/comments/1coinmb/e1_topaz_vs_e1_robin_some_calculations/)
Salvage your account? You have so many Eidolons and sigs that I don't even see a world where that team isnt already shredding everything
I have Aventurine S1 and Ratio gets enough debuffs from Numby, his EFF RES debuff and Aventurine's Vulnerability. It does require Aventurine to use at least one FUA though so it only depends on whether you like Topaz enough to invest more. I also happened to have anxiety pulled Robin's E1 today due to the lack of Sunday news but that's another story.
S1 Ratio and E0S1 Topaz are already 3 debuffs so fup is guaranteed. And you can get the rest from Aventurine to maximize his "5 debuffs" trace. So it's not necessary, just a bit of comfort. A little bit.
E1 Robin will be better. S1 Topaz is already enough by itself if the rest of the team is E0S0. However you also have S1 Aventurine to add consistency so debuffs won't be a problem at all.
>S1 Topaz is already enough by itself if the rest of the team is E0S0 No, it's only two debuffs and gambling on Ratio's 60% probability of applying debuff on his skill
Ratio technique for frontloaded debuff and then Aventurine ult/Ratio skill for later in the fight is perfectly fine.
You’re also getting a debuff from Aventurine’s s1 and a less consistent one from Aventurine’s ult. With s1 topaz and Ratio’s inconsistent debuff on top of that you have plenty of debuffs even without e1 Topaz.
Dude, I literally quoted his "if the rest of the team is E0S0"
You have: 1) Ratio’s technique, 1 debuff to everything in the first wave 2) Ratio’s own debuff, which you would nearly guaranteed to apply before his technique runs out. 3) Aventurine ultimate, lasts 3 turns 4) Break damage Between these and S1, you will have enough debuffs 99% of the time. I use similar lineup and it just takes some planning with Aventurine’s ultimate for the second wave.
>Ratio’s technique, 1 debuff to everything in the first wave Same problem - not guaranteed. Only 60% chance against big chonky bois. >Ratio’s own debuff, which you would nearly guaranteed to apply before his technique runs out. Still gambling on the fact that technique applied debuff. >Aventurine ultimate, lasts 3 turns Not available in the beginning of fight when Ratio needs it the most. And good luck switching targets. >Break damage Same problem. He needs his debuffs the most in the beginning of fight. Not balls deep into it. Yes, it's manageable, I played myself like that, but it still was painful. Gladly eidolon for Topaz cost me 5 pulls so it wasn't a gamechanging decision for me.
Aventurine has really broken my brain, I'm picking a team for SU and start stressing about who I wanna use as a sustain this time and then go "oh right Aventurine is the sustain and not a dps". Or I'm picking my 2nd MoC team and forget to add a sustain because "the first team doesn't have one either" but Aventurine is there.
Do we actually need to level up FF's skill in V4? I see people saying they need to level it up now for the extra energy but on Hakushin and HomDGCat it shows that the energy doesn't change with the trace level.
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So which is accurate, CN or EN?
Yes, because it gives her more leeway against enemies that drain energy. On both Hakushin and HomDGCat it says it goes from 50% at lvl 1 to 60% at lvl 10 for me. Were you just looking at the level 10 stats perhaps?
Energy changes on hakushi, it's just not orange number yet. In most cases you dont need to level up skill but against tv enemies or aventurine boss you actually want to level it up for avoiding energy issues after their energy drain.
i hope mihoyo makes another harmony that doesnt buff attack lol
They need to make a "Furina", a harmony that buffs HP scaling characters like Blade and also characters that love to kill themselves like Jingliu, Blade and Jade who turns any character into a suicidal DPS, which would make "Furina" shine a lot. A team with Blade, Jade, "Furina", sustain, would be a way to bring Blade to current DPS check.
Give me an EHR DoT buffer Mihoyo. Ruan Mei is getting stuck to break once those comps get moving, and Robin is a FuA buffer. Don't leave DoT out of having insanely broken personalized Harmonies Mihoyo.
>and Robin is a FuA buffer Which is fun because she's better for DoT than RM.
it's not going to be popular enough for Hoyo to release, considering how much people seem to hate DoT lmao
Who hates DOT? It's just annoying when PF is specifically catered to DOT without much of anything for non-DOT setups
oh people definitely do, the latest take I read was that dot is a wimpy way of playing, don't ask me how they think that way though
Wait what? Ok then yes thats ridiculous lmao
Omg about 24 hours until Boothill's banner!!! 😭😭😭
Just one more sleep until Fu Xuan banner. I can’t believe it.
Finally have time from month-end hell and bump my achievement toward 760! Man this month is really rough, I wonder how I will survive doing 2-3 jobs at the same time next month again.... Not really looking forward to it. But oh well I signed up for it myself, time to giddy up! The achievement though... >!"The feathers he dropped" just shattered my heart 😭!<
What would a 5 star gallagher made to be ff premier sustain do that would make them superior to gallagher e6?
- Emergency healing - AOE full cleanse - SP positive - Strong toughness damage
Gallagher has all of those except the AoE cleanse though?
Passively get CC immunity or cleanse for the party, better toughness damage (as in AoE toughness damage, Gallagher already has massive ST toughness damage and I don't think they would give a sustainer a higher amount than that), better sustain and a higher ammount of break related buffs or debuffs. Since FF already has a hefty vuln mod between her signature and her ult, my guess is that this hypothetic sustainer would go for either def down, res down, party wide break efficiency or break effect buffs. They need to be fire for them to be a proper Firefly support and with how Firefly kit works they would most likely be abundance as well.
Because FF already heals, I'd said a preservation with chip healing and shields instead of full healing. Let them continue to have a ton of weakness break damage on their own attacks, but implant Imaginary to make sure Hatblazer is always doing toughness damage.
Imaginary weakness implant. Right now against non-imaginary weak enemies you don’t benefit from HTB’s high toughness damage. Also imprisoned >> fire break for super break teams thanks to the action delay.
maybe a break efficency buff for the entire party? or more general healing like just doing toughness damage/hitting a broken enemy heals you. hard to think of further BE buffs that RM doesnt already provide that'd just make BE teams even stronger.
What's the most obvious 4 Star character who will inevitably get a 5 Star glow up version? Herta I think.
Sampo is an easy bet.
Best girl obviously And by that I mean March 🥂
Sushang and Serval (strong cope). 🙏 But Sushang is more likely. I think so.
Guinaifen gets 1 billion subscribers and becomes an emanator of Elation
Joining the simp swarm that will take over the world 🔥
we accidentally reviving Tayzzyronth with this one 🔥
And her subs, the new swarm disaster.
surely >!after her 10 new 4* forms!< march 7
Shampoo the Emanator of Elation
Sampo will be revealed to be Aha themselves in the end. The ultimate trick.
Tingyun when it's inevitably revealed she survived. No, I'm not delusional.
Im hoping for this because I desperately need a 2nd Tingyun on my account
Yukong and Tingyun will fuse to give us the Ultimate Foxian Lady. No, I'm not delusional.
ohhh so thats who Feixiao is...
topaz gets too much slander. i think shes a good pull. shes not as core as kafka is to DoT but just like her, she can almost always abuse blessings in moc and pf. i 40k side 1 with her/aven/robin/himeko using dot blessing like cmon, thats pretty good for a hunt unit on pf. the stupid wine spiller mob is the biggest blocker in side 1 and topaz just shreds him
topaz is probably one of the most misunderstood characters in the game, meta-wise. It took quite a while for people to realize that she's not purely a follow-up buffer - I remember there were people saying she's a Jing Yuan support of all things. Granted, the idea of dual-DPS teams were vastly overshadowed by DHIL and Jingliu at the time. Ratio raised her stocks a lot, but even without him in the picture, Topaz already has plenty of teammates that can work together with her. She's also getting even more relevant in PF with the increased focus on Elites and the natural synergy she has with aoe follow-ups. Definitely a high value pull for follow-up enthusiasts, even without e1 or s1. The problem with Topaz is that she will never be the flashy carry or support, since she's a mix of both, so it's easy to be underwhelmed. Also, meta unrelated, but the numpy animations are adorable, I just love yeeting the pig.
She was underpowered for a long time and still requires a lot of investment to be good, and as the "FUA support," still isn't definitively best in slot for anyone besides Ratio. JY doesn't need her, Clara doesn't need her, etc. They really were too scared of her scaling with future FUA chars, but oddly weren't as conservative with Kafka. She's maybe my favorite (pullable) char but definitely got the short end of the stick power-wise. Feels better now with sig/Ratio/Robin/Aven, but that's a lot of investment for what's presumably supposed to be a core FUA support on her own.
At base, she's not even definitively best in slot for Ratio.
She is definitely Robin and Aventurine’s BIS partners. She fuels Aventurine FUA like no other, and she is the best energy generator and damage carrier for Robin. Subsequently, these two are also her best partners, pushing Numby forward, and providing high attack/CD. People also usually talk about her only as a debuffer, when she is also a very good damager by herself. Her skill is actually a 225% damage attack when you also consider her debuff (think of her damage as split between her modifier and her debuff), which is about what Seele’s modifier is, and with the FUA team you can get 5-6 attacks per cycle. I have a well invested Topaz with around 80/180 CV, and she is almost like a second hypercarry when you add up all her damage from her multiple attacks.
I mean, obviously I meant as a support for a DPS (team), not Robin and Aventurine. They go along with the Ratio+Topaz team. She's also pretty unviable as a hypercarry, or at least not limited 5* worthy.
Well, I cleared deer in 11-2 in 2 cycles with Topaz hypercarry, so she is as viable as any of them.
A build that good, with presumably good supports, can 2 cycle the best boss in the game for that char on MoC 11, not even 12? That's pretty underwhelming for a limited 5* DPS. Sure, she's really more of a support, but again, only definitively BiS in Ratio teams. Like she should be clear BiS in Clara, JY, etc teams, but they just weren't willing to give her enough.
I mean, that’s the only fire weak enemy right now in MOC. I am pretty sure I can get similar results in 12 (btw, I redid it right now and I got a 1 cycle clear). Anyway, JY is not really a FUA unit, he is a hypercarry with a FUA attack, same as Blade or even YQ. Clara is excellent with Topaz, and I’ve used her heavily in the same FUA team. I’ve used her with Himeko to great success in fire-weak stages, heck I used her in PF 4/1 with the DOT turbulence yesterday and got a 40k score. Also, FUA is a game archtype, so there will 100% be more FUA characters. Any future FUA character can benefit from her, the more they lean to FUA, the better. Edit: I did 2 cycles Kafka 12-2, with Clara/Topaz on unoptimized gameplay. I mean c’mon, your standards must be incredibly high if you want something much faster lol.
From my experience playing Genshin and Arknights it feels so, so off how fast the trailblazer levels goes. The fact that I started in 1.6 and I'm already half a level away from 70 is so weird LMAO. I like that bar going up over time so it's kinda sad ngl q_q
True, I remember back when I played Genshin during the release era and I only reached WL 60 around the 2.0 mark, I was like "FINALLY this took ages" Then when I started HSR I randomly opened the menu and I was like "wait I'm 70 already wtf"
Yeah it was so fast that I expected them to add more levels in 2.0 but they never did
Is Arlan a good DPS?
Seen a few 0 cycles clear from him for current MOC
from a meta perspective or whatever, no. but you don't have to follow meta to beat endgame content at all, so if you like arlan and want to invest in him and his team then go for it
Ass but usable like everyone else with enough cope (aka jacked supports)
Not really
He's probably the worst DPS in the game tbh (out of the actual DPS characters, not meme support DPS teams). That said, if you want to use him to clear story content you can with proper limited supports and sustains.
My goodness I’ve been testing out robin with my half baked IPC team and she’s been pretty good But I just tested her with Clara (and Topaz) and the last minute pull desire is stronger than ever, the damage difference for E0 Clara is absolutely mental she just melted that stupid blue bug. Pull budgeting was so much easier in 1.x now I need to be like “what if I really love every character from 2.4 to 2.6”
Same, boothill is tomorrow but knowing im one click away from the support that buffs ALL my favorite characters is tempting
always satisfying seeing mr svarog hit those big [counters](https://imgur.com/uABRGGZ)
Help me Mr Svarog moment frfr
Who have you lost 50/50 to the most? >!This is a poorly disguised salt post to complain about my E4 Welt. On every fucking Nihility 5 star I get Nihility screen and its Welt.!<
e5 yanqing .-.
Bailu: she's the only one so far that appeared on my 50/50s twice. But funnily enough it's Bronya that has the highest eidolon out of every standard and it's not like I picked her on my selector.
E3 Bronya and E2 Clara, but I got Bronya from the 300 standard mark as well as some from standard, and most of my 50/50s lost were Clara. So I guess Clara. Actually I just remembered I also have E2 Bailu. Guess my 50/50 losses are pretty balanced lmao. Fun fact: I still don't have Yanqing (Not complaining tho)
E2 Clara, but I'm happy with that.
E3 S2 Bronya
Bronya/Gepard/Bailu at E2S0, then there's Welt at E0S3 haunting my standard pulls.
E3S1 Yanqing haunting my account. Young man can you stop
I love my e4s1 welt. Not even as a joke, i get a lot of milage out of him in my Acheron team facing Img weak enemies
bronya or gepard, i don't remember where did i get their copies from anymore but bronya is e2 and gepard is e3
Let's just say, from having 0 Himeko back in December, I now have an E2 Himeko as of this banner. (My Clara is also E2, but I can never be salty against my child).
E6 Welt is cracked though, so you're on your way. For me, it's E1 Himeko/Clara/Welt, but I'm on a 5 straight 50/50 winstreak and haven't lost a 50/50 since Topaz? Or maybe RM, don't remember too well. Still no Gepard or Bailu, lol.
Definitely Bailu (e4) for me, the rest have been evenly split and I’ve yet to see a Clara unfortunately 😢
Himeko is haunting me (currently e3)
I have abysmally poor 5050 win record but my consolation prize is that I lost most of them to Bronya. She's at E4S1. All from losing on banner. Although...with so many broken harmonys as of late, she isn't as crucial as she once was.
Bailu. She's mostly fine but her lack of cleanse hurts sometimes, and I still only have one limited sustain (Aventurine), so I'm fine with it. But I fully expect to replace her with another limited sustain soon.
Bailu E5! Although I don’t want to lose any more 50/50s (20% win rate ._.), if I do I want her E6 just as a capstone - I still like the character and she did carry me in MoC until I got Aventurine.
Bailu E3. She carried me early game though and she's a cutie so I occasionally use her in MoC anyway despite having 3 limited sustains. Multiplication and her invigoration go hard. Kinda wish I lost more to Welt or Yanqing though, I want Welt's E1 and Yanqing's E2/E4.
For me its e1 Gepard despite having e3 Bronya. I rerolled for 1 Bronya (beginner banner), selected her at 300, got 1 on standard, and lost 1 50/50 (literally 4 different sources). For the other standards I have at e1 (Clara + Himeko + Yanqing) I'm pretty sure I got 1 off standard, so only Gepard caused me 2 50/50 losses.
e2 bronya. Not upset at all. lol. Still no Himeko/Clara who apart from Bronya were my 3 most wanted characters. This feels like Tighari/Dehya for me again.
Yanqing. That kid ruins my joy everytime I'm getting a 5 star (whether it's standard or limited). I want him to be GONE! Iirc he's E3 now. 😑 Just where are Welt, Himeko, Clara, Bronya? No, it's Honkai: Star Yanqing for you only, enjoy.
So far Yanqing once, but I only pulled for 3 5-stars so far so winning the 50/50 on two of them is already great enough for me to be salty lmao.
E3 Yanqing. If these were all Bronyas I could have an E6 Bronya. Or they coulda just been 1 Himeko and Clara and that woulda been fine too.
Still missing some standard 5 stars (Gepard for me) is the worst part of hitting a standard dupe tbh.
One man's trash is another man's treasure, I guess. I am so jealous of your E4 Welt. I used the 5* selector to get my only Welt. (Trade you my E4 Yanqing? See, it could be worse.)
my bronya and bailu are equally gaining eidolons
I have an E5 Clara, I use her a lot though!! She's one of my PF mvps.
That's crazy, E6 is cracked and I'd be happy to have it. I still only have E1.
Man I wish I had a Welt. Anyway my highest is my son Yanqing who's come home 3 times now, so now he's E2.
My Gepard is E3. He is the only 5* I have Eidolons on at all. I'm not mad about it because I use him regularly (with Trend, he goes great with Acheron, and he's great fun for SU runs with preservation path too), but it is very funny that it's always him.
E2S2 Welt
Himeko/Herta/Robin/Aventurine was an easy 40k side one for me, which is good because side two I only could get 25k I intend to build some dot units eventually, though I will probably wait until a Kafka rerun Keep carrying me Herta 😘
not to brag, but i was pre farming for firefly and i got 7 purple mats from 240 energy spend in the calyx
im sorry, what do you mean by "purple mat"? all i know is every 60tb i spend i get 6 blues and 8 greens
I'm unsure what planar sets to farm for the bonus before it ends. Units I'm interested in picking up are a break dps (Feixiao or BH/FF), HH rerun, maybe Jiaoqiu. I'm wondering if it's still worth it to grab some fleet of the ageless? Already have a lot of relics from farming world 7 for so long so a lot of penacony pieces. Otherwise I guess talia just in case I'll pick BH or it might be best for Feixiao. Or Salsatto should Feixiao want it plus maybe an upgrade for JY? Decision help would be appreciated.