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bVk57

# FAQ **What are the 2.3 second half banners?** * NEW [Jade](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jade-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Erudition | Quantum) / [Argenti](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1302) * [Serval 💜](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1103) / [Natasha](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1105) / [Asta](https://hsr17.hakush.in/char/1009) * NEW [Yet Hope Is Priceless](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yet-hope-is-priceless-item/?lang=EN) / [An Instant Before A Gaze](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/23018) * [Shared Feeling](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21007) / [Trend of the Universal Market](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21016) / NEW Sunday 💜 LC [After the Charmony Fall](https://hsr17.hakush.in/lightcone/21045) ​ **What are the 2.4 banners?** * First Half: NEW [Yunli](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/yunli-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction | Physical) / NEW [Dance at Sunset](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/dance-at-sunset-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Destruction) * Second Half: NEW [Jiaoqiu](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/jiaoqiu-character/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility | Fire) / NEW [Those Many Springs](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/those-many-springs-item/?lang=EN) (5 Star | Nihility) * Unknown Half: NEW [Poised to Bloom](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/poised-to-bloom-item/?lang=EN) (4 Star | Harmony) / (QUESTIONABLE) HuoHuo will rerun according to Block NEW [March 7](https://starrail.honeyhunterworld.com/march-7th-character-2/?lang=EN) (4 Star | The Hunt | Imaginary) will be a free unit in 2.4. Trailblazers will be able to get up to E3 from the main event. ​ **Is Sunday going to be playable? What is his path/element?** Yes, he has been confirmed playable by multiple reliable leakers. Uncle N has put him *potentially* at 2.7. We do not know his path/element at this time. 🕯🕯Join our prayer circle every Sunday🕯🕯 >!All nonbelieving heretics will be ritually sacrificed at the Church of Sunday's altar for kit leaks!< ​ **Do we know of any other upcoming playable characters + their kits?** * Screwllum (Imaginary | Erudition | Male) - unknown release date * Hoyo announced Feixiao, Lingsha, and Moze in the 2.3 livestream. Unfortunately, Huaiyan, who was announced in the same livestream, is marked as an npc in the data files. Check the rentry link at the bottom of the FAQ to learn more! The rentry link also has a few more potential upcoming characters (but with no concrete information about their kits). ​ **When is the next livestream/patch/drip marketing/beta?** Please note: * Livestream dates are pure *speculation* * The Live Date format is America time / Europe & Asia time * Drip Marketing takes place over the span of 3 days; only the first day of drip is provided in the chart * Beta usually starts around the same time as the new patch |Patch Number|Drip Marketing|Livestream Date|Live Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |2.4|Already Dripped|19 July|30/31 July| |2.5|15/16 July|30 August|10/11 September| |2.6|26/27 August|11 October|22/23 October| |2.7|7/8 October|22 November|3/4 December| |2.8|18/19 November|3 January|14/15 January| ​ **What are the current active codes?** [Redeemable here](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift) or in game > Phone Menu > click “…” (to the right of the character pfp) > Redemption Code |Code|Availability|Items| |:-|:-|:-| |[STARRAILGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=STARRAILGIFT)|Permanent|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k| |[6T3F5HVD6LK7](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=6T3F5HVD6LK7)|Limited 2.3 Code|Stellar Jade × 50 + Credits × 10k| |[FIREFLY0619](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLY0619)|???|Oak Cake Rolls × 2 + Credits × 5k| |[FIREFLYSGIFT](https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=FIREFLYSGIFT)|???|Traveler's Guide × 3 + Oak Cake Rolls × 2| ​ **Where's the unreleased character google doc?** It is now hosted on rentry! (sorry mobile users - reddit eats rentry links) ​ rentry. co/7k3mt https://preview.redd.it/whw1omzt2k8d1.jpeg?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a2da46e2552cf076f44a52e48f577dc8d0af303


My_Boi_

https://imgur.com/a/UqB9lYu Do you guys think this is an intentional reference to Greek philosophers in Screwllum's animations? Could also be a nice nod to Screwllum and Ratio's relationship, two scholars with differing viewpoints that still cooperated and debated with each other.


Acceptable_West_1312

Yay, S5 Peaceful day! Now I need to build QQ


Tinaofthedawn

Question abt Gopherwood >!What happened to him? How did he die exactly? Ik his crows fell and died (good...they were ugly) but what exactly happened?!<


popileviz

>!He gave his power and the power of other Oak Family members over to Sunday to "fuel" Ena's dream and them taking over Dominicus, for lack of a better word. As he didn't have a physical body anymore he disappeared once that power was spent!<


Tinaofthedawn

>!oh so bro just logged out lol!< Tnx :)


Zeiin

I know Clara wants Yunli's LC, but out of curiosity, how does Clara compare to Yunli assuming they both have Yunli's LC? I haven't seen any comparisons.


NSF-Loenis

somebody posted a graphic with simulated calculations earlier. e0 clara with yunli's sig was worse than yunli without her sig, which was quite a margin away from yunli with her sig. (700k vs >900k I think?) e1 clara with aeon was roughly on par with e0 yunli with aeon. didn't see numbers for e1 clara with the signature. this was the graphic: [https://imgur.com/tPIESW3](https://imgur.com/tPIESW3) you might be able to find the comments in the thread since it was fairly recent.


ThanatosMKII

Is there any TC about Jiaoqiu's LC? On paper it's obviously BiS for the man himself but it should be an upgrade for BS over her EotP in terms of oveerall team DPS (probably still worse than her own LC but that one isn't great for the cook until E2). Sources with numbers would be nice. Depending how they look I'm comtemplating to stop getting FF's LC (got the last copies for S5 MotP and S5 EotP) and save the pulls for Jiaoqiu (which I should come close to guarantee provided 2.4 has the average 90 pulls).


burntfoodistasty

reverse1999 >!was considering quitting the game for good because the combat got repetitive, but the new counter-based DPS hot guy just got released in CN and he seems fun as hell?? with the HP drain support we'll get for free in the anniversary too!< >!guess I'm going back to the game now lol!<


verdantsumeru

>>!counter-based DPS hot guy!< >!literally a sentence crafted to bait me, brb going to check him out...!<


burntfoodistasty

>!lol I get you, I got really excited when I saw he was a counter character too!< [here's ](https://youtu.be/URMJUo1pU3E?si=B7Sl1h0mo1k5f7h2) a video showcase on him!


existentialcrysis3

Kinda OT,  I’m surprised people compare JY to Jotaro when they talk about their power level (absurdly strong stands) but don’t mention Naberius Kalego from Iruma kun. Both are voiced by Daisuke Ono, both have lightning stands, and both are among the strongest beings in their respective factions (in Luofu and Babyls). 


NSF-Loenis

can't wait for the arc where yanqing gains summoning powers and turns jing yuan into a plushie


YuinoSery

zzz, negative >!i tried really hard to ignore it but does the zzz leaks sub just not have proper mods? how is there someone in one thread straight up going "people that want censorship should die" in response to someone saying they'd prefer if female characters had more sensible breast sizes and that hasn't been dealt with the entire day? when i first saw that comment it was even upvoted like wtf!< >!also really pushes me away from wanting to play zzz or interact with its fandom if that is the fandom it attracts, like i am so ungodly tired of gooners!<


dungalot

>!HSR leaks had a pretty rocky start (it started out as two separate subs) and I remember there being a fairly big reason why they had split tho they eventually settled things during the early 1.0 patch and combined the community into one.!< >!It's probably growing pains for a new game leaks sub, altho the big overlap in subreddit users for the GI leaks and HSR leaks smoothened out the process a lot since they could model the moderation and operation of the HSR leaks sub on the GI leaks sub.!< >!Not sure how much overlap there is between ZZZ and the HSR / GI leaks, if there isn't much I can see it becoming pretty messy.!<


KazzumaYagami

>!well, that's what happens if the game wants to cater to a specific audience ig!<


autummbeely

>!We just lucked with the HSR and Genshin leaks mods, it seems. Not sure how the Wuwa mods are, so can't speak for them.!<


benoween

>!completely unrelated but I like how wuwa just seems to be part of the hoyo ecosystem as an adopted cousin or something!< >![i've even seen art of it](https://twitter.com/ObsessedPianist/status/1796037406765822355?t=MVs4msqbrtE6novfaRk-2A&s=19)!< >![anotha one](https://twitter.com/sadone_game/status/1803822218146922694?t=QJyhuIDA_gxDd6L0nc99ig&s=19)!<


Acceptable_West_1312

>!Plot twist: SOL-3 is another imaginary tree branch!<


floralbreeze

man, every time i look at argenti my brain just go 'close enough welcome back Oscar François de Jarjayes and Pisces Aphrodite'


verdantsumeru

I love how half of Jing Yuan fanart depicts him being the most beautiful man in existence and the other half is just sleepy fat cat. And both are perfectly accurate. He really can do it all :3


ninetozero

He really is both that fat cat sleeping in the sun with his belly up in the air asking for scratches, and also that man you see on the street so beautiful it makes you cry, it's amazing.


13_is_a_lucky_number

2.3 spoiler (fan art by @BlabbyDuck) >![Jade and her growing collection of chained men](https://x.com/BlabbyDuck/status/1803778768491971015)!<


A_Reddit_User-8008

Is there any mission that disappear if Penacony history ends? At which TB rank is recommended to start farming artifacts?


popileviz

No. TB60 or so, you can drop some stamina on relics before that if you feel underpowered for story content and farming, just don't overdo it


Shyruwu

Has anyone already calculated the difference between the phys set and the new FUA set on yunli?


shashashame

I have enough for e0s1 yunli, but would it also be possible to get e1s1 robin later, when she reruns? i need her for all of my follow-up teams it seems lol. unless feixiao gets leaked early then i might hold off on both of them


djovisse

Robin shouldn't be rerunning anytime soon, she literally just had her first banner.


Tighnari_Lover

Off-topic: Anime (Windbreaker) >!I got to see Tsubakino animated AND there’s gonna be a season two in 2025. I’ve been so happy. Tsubakino is my absolute favorite character right after of course Sakura. I really love their story too. I can’t wait to see it animated~.!<


KazzumaYagami

>!I was so happy when I saw the announcement I screamed a little!<


damian2502

I want to pull few LCs because I STILL have only S2 Memories of the Past. Im close to pity however. On which banner should I pull to get more worthwhile LC? I have E1 FF and E0 RM. FF have a bit limited access to Aeon, but her LC isnt game changer, while RM often prefers energy LC.


popileviz

Pull on Firefly's LC, if you get lucky then it's a good addition to her kit. Ruan Mei is fine with Meshing Cogs in that team, her LC is just some nice QOL and a boost to non-break teams


djovisse

Tried to do a DU run in hopes that I maybe will like it eventually (I didn't), and why does the agro. Feel so bad. I feel like the only reason I was getting Blade to FUA on Cirrus was because I had the shared dmg blessing. Every enemy was attacking Sparkle and Ruan Mei. I think the total of 3 attacks went to Blade himself. Tf is this 😭 edit: to clarify, the aggro also feels bad in PF whenever I play Blade there, but in DU in CIrrus fight specifically the problem is just more obvious because the enemies tend to attack more often and the fight just drags on


bzach43

God yeah, sometimes I feel like Blade has negative aggro 😭 hoping Yunli's LC keeps the taunt effect solely so that I can force Blade to actually get hit more than the harmonies he's paired with lmao


Admiral_Whitlock

In my humble opinion I think HSR and gacha games in general need more characters with glasses


Dokavi

Uh Oh, you may summon him.


kokobu

i agree! gacha games need to learn of the versatility of glasses


verdantsumeru

so true. I can't believe they said "dan heng is a nerd" and didn't give him glasses. it would've made his magical girl transformation feel even more authentic.


mindovermacabre

Even more insult to injury, he has glasses in his casual wear nendroid figure.


verdantsumeru

oh my GOD...you're right I forgot about that. that figure is based on his [Express Travel look](https://www.amiami.com/cn/detail/?gcode=GOODS-04426473) which was used for one of HSR's promotion videos...they know!! and they still opted not to give him glasses...


LucyStar3

How will the new March eidolons work?


popileviz

It seems that we get them from the event up to E3 in 2.4. Then up to E6 in 2.5. At least that's the current assumption, will have to wait until livestream. At the very least she's confirmed to be 100% free, so no gacha like her preservation form


LucyStar3

Thanks! I'm so excited for her


Anemoblaze

[OT] >!I despise holidays that has people shooting up fireworks…it’s not even 4th of July yet and people popping them…scares the crap outta me and my dog I hate it.!<


autummbeely

Wuwa: >!was there no drip marketing for 1.2? Saw people talking about it, but I see no drip marketing posts. I was looking forward to seeing who was going to be in 1.2.!<


KazzumaYagami

>!not yet, who knows when and if there will be!<


bVk57

>!Kuro's been uploading 800 cosplay videos to advertise 1.1 but no 1.2 drip I'm dying squirtle!< >!Hopefully the marketing team will remember to drop it soon 😔!<


Icy-shot

I just completed 2.3 story, my short opinion >!I saw a lot of mixed reviews for this epilogue and I have to agree. I was completely turned off after the whole negotiation part (the moment Himeko walked in and just rolled with it with a smile, it's actually even worse with the text we get after finishing the quest. did the previous patch even happen?). There's already lots of posts going into details so I'll leave it here. Overall, an underwhelming ending to a relatively good story with a shaky execution.!< Well, now I can do the event and get my Gallagher at least!


Dokavi

>!Himeko in 1.4 negotiation is at least decent. Why does Himeko in 2.3 doesn't do anything bud 😭😭😭!<


Tinaofthedawn

[op](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/VhBma6Lpso) doesn't know the custody war is already over and baby Aven is adopted by us in the leak sub lol


OloivoFRUIT

Do we have ant footage of the new enemies yet? I don’t think I’ve seen any


Desperate_Case4647

[chicken wing boy](https://www.instagram.com/p/C8uQJtIvLmK/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)


rowboatrow1

Who will be the most meta character out of Jade, Yunli or Jiaoqiu in your opinion?


Reasonable_Scythe

Yunli But if you have/use Acheron, possibly Jiaoqiu instead


ninetozero

Short term, probably Yunli. Destruction good, big number good, team members are all out there already, pretty plug and play if you have a mature account. Long term, it'll be Jiaoqiu. Damage dealers are the easiest to cripple by unfavourable MoC/PF/AS enemy rotations, blessings, general game landscape when the content glazing the brand new dps hard counters what made your old dps work, and so on. Supports are eternal - Pela/Tingyun are still meta no matter how much the meta changes, and Pela on steroids will stay meta too, I would bet my oak cakes on it. Jade is a wildcard. She's not gonna be meta at release outside of PF, but we don't know where the meta is going next. Maybe next year she has a cracked MOC team with characters that aren't out yet, maybe she doesn't, she's kind of a vague guess right now.


Aggressive_Fondant71

The new enemies, the wolves which will sell the 2 new characters have high speed and speed boost which incentivises more debuffs with Jiaoqiu and more counter for Yunli, so those 2


zuikakuu

Probably Jiaoqiu since he's the bis support for a top2 dps in the current meta. Yunli follows behind being a good option in both MOC and PF. The only place she suffers is AS since counters won't do anything to broken enemies. Jade is basically just for PF unless you go E1.


rowboatrow1

Would you prioritize his E1 or LC?


zuikakuu

LC for sure.


Radinax

As of now, I'd say Yunli since she is good in MOC but really good in PF. Jade is slept on imo. You usually have so many options in MOC and AS, but PF can get quite hard without the right units, making Jade a very attractive pull to make that game mode easier forever since she destroy multiple enemies. Jade is very unique so far in what she does, with Yunli you have Clara who is similar, heck you can pull Yunli's LC for Clara and she also scales with eidolons when you lose 50/50s. Then you have Jiaoqiu who is more of a luxury pull at the moment, even for Acheron teams who are already destroying content, but I'm expecting some big buffs for him. Jade on the other hand, there is no one like her, and we don't know if Hoyo will add another mode to handle waves of enemies different from PF or they put Cyrus as a boss in MOC one day. Hoyo will also very likely release a "Furina", someone that buffs characters with oscilating HP like Blade, Jingliu or Arlan, then Jade can make that "Furina" buff anyone Jade buffs. I think Jade is quite underrated and unique.


syd___shep

Yunli. Destruction privileges and straight Clara powercreep, who was already good.


Naiie100

Need v3 to be absolutely sure about it.


KazzumaYagami

Today's a [good day](https://x.com/fangaqiong/status/1806253709653139758?t=LoAllsEqKrPh8VxvIVOXgQ&s=19) after all, and if it was [Sunday](https://x.com/AManoSakura__/status/1806297870552949005?t=KkS352juXZgLjZFLrxfe-A&s=19) it would've been even better [everyone hold hands ](https://youtu.be/6XPhUMZ6UZI?si=F3RbfC8vxIr_jmIW)


asternobrac

You would not believe your eyes


5thyr_artist

- in-game note/exploration spoilers Since I lost on Ruan's banner (thankfully got her at 77 pity), I did exploration more often, especially on Penacony As I used one of the Space Anchors in the dream Reverie, >!I stumbled upon the "Welcome to ■■■■" note and encountered the broken Dream Ticker with the "Bizarre Tape". I wasn't aware of what was about to happen, so the ominous text and sudden visual glitches made me feel uneasy, even as I'm typing this text!< Good thing I wasn't hearing my headphones. It's midnight already here...though honestly, Hoyo should have done more stuff like this


iris_heartwood

>!The creepy dream vibes in 2.0 were SO good and well-done. I was disappointed that they just kind of dropped those themes without any resolution or explanation for it. (I guess you could technically argue there was some resolution, but it wasn't satisfying imo)!<


5thyr_artist

>!Really agree with your first sentence. I can't imagine what else the devs would have created if HSR actually had a developed open world. Especially if it was possible to get trapped in the dream Reverie...!<


djovisse

>!SAME, that mini-quest was cool as hell!<


Varhur

Are there any Yunli showcases without her signature LC?


benoween

2.3 Spoilers!!! (Not maybe) >![Robin comic](https://twitter.com/pawnyao/status/1805984303974920435?t=gqwAcWWF3jlp4FX7ibwAug&s=19)!< What if I cried now huh, then what.


YoungManTM

They ARE spoilers


benoween

Good thing I added the spoiler thing then!


YoungManTM

Nice 


Ziphusone

After playing the Star Rail Candy Crush game for over 3 hours, i can no longer unsee the apps on my phone menu as fruits. I think I'm hallucinating. I can even see the movement that creates the rainbow fruit


13_is_a_lucky_number

Fun fact: this is known as the [Tetris Effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_effect) and it tends to happen after you play this kind of games for a long period of time. Enjoy this new knowledge while hallucinating your fruit tiles :D


HellishLuck

Saw an interesting looking comic on twitter to read before I went to bed. Got a lot of pain instead. (2.3 post-story quest spoilers) >!This [Japanese fan comic](https://x.com/clam514/status/1800838503347241199) from the perspective of an IPC employee who starts and quits working for Aventurine is so good. It started before 2.3 but the interpretation lines up perfectly with Topaz talking about how so few people work for him. I love the character breakdown from the outside of how he tries to keep a friendly distance from everyone to avoid attachment but in the end his self-destructive nature ends up causing others pain. Anyway time to go to bed sad now.!<


floralbreeze

OH THE ARTIST UPLOADED THE LAST PART ALREADY?! fuck i completely forgot it was a daily update...... 'this is something i will never get used to' '....i don't want to be protected by you, sir.' the way the artist draw aventurine face in that panel launched intense emotion in my brain man, you really have to give it to japanese pro doujinka, such beautiful writing; the amount of page and quality is honestly of a mini booklet sold at convention, and they release it for free on twt


HellishLuck

This is my first time seeing it so I went through the whole thing in suffering. >!The callback to the cat scene at the end, the little note about the diary being confiscated at the bottom, his face. aaa.!< Coming from the JP FGO fandom where people whip out full comics that explore the characters in depth and rip your heart out in a day it still always blows me away. I'm tired after I finish a single drawing, I could not live this life but I will appreciate their hard work towards making me feel pain.


floralbreeze

GOD YES>!i love that cat cake callback so much, the way the artist write dialogue was so good !< and yeah, nothing is more potent than a japanese comic artist that is in their honeymoon with a ship, and some of them are even pro with published books, so the quality of those mangas/sketch pages they upload are always so high


nxriaki

this is an interesting interpretation. >!personally I think it's more likely that people quit working for him due to the stereotypes surrounding his origins, and the fact that he deceived the IPC and the Guild before joining. his character story 1 starts with that. but it could also be that his character story 1 was the circumstances from when he first started, so maybe over time he did have other people working for him who ended up quitting due to his self-destructive tendencies?!< another thing is that Topaz has a more... naive view of the IPC, I'd say. >!her comment about people reluctant to work for Aventurine due to his work habits seems in line with her more positive view of the IPC, her lack of experience re: discrimination (at least compared to Aventurine), and her own dedication to good work habits. so it's possible that to her, the only explanation why Aventurine has so few people working for him is because of his work habits and not the result of the potential discrimination he faces.!<


zorafae

>!I kind of interpreted him not having many people working under him as people not even applying in the first place rather than starting and quitting later, maybe due to the stereotypes about Avgins like you said. But yeah Topaz seems to have a bit naive view in general as shown in the 1.4 continuance. Unsure how to determine the 2.3 parts where Jade was being nicer to Oti with Topaz present as that could've been a planned manipulation tactic towards Oti... But could've also just been to keep Topaz in the dark genuinely since Jade seems to be manipulating her with false closeness too. :D!<


nxriaki

>!it's possible that it's both people not wanting to work under him in the first place, and people getting assigned to him then immediately wanting to quit, all because of the stereotypes. and I think it's more likely that Jade was intentionally more amicable towards Oti with Topaz around because then she can make Topaz keep believing that the IPC is more righteous than it actually is. that way Topaz can keep carrying out any projects without having to carry a guilty conscience, which in the end benefits the IPC!<


HellishLuck

>!I mean your first paragraph is basically the whole comic ahaha, I simplified it down a lot. The worker starts out completely distrustful of him because of the rumours and stereotypes and then over time as they begin to see more of the real him they end up not wanting to work for him for a different reason. It covers how he's discriminated against at the company but also that his habits of using himself as bargaining chip while working alone and not trusting others drives people away too.!< >!You're right, that part in the game is definitely a commentary on Topaz as much as as Aventurine. That's exactly how I took it as well. Topaz is the 'perfect' IPC figurehead as someone who was taken in from an IPC 'saved' planet, is always optimistic about her work and her skills lie in managing others. Meanwhile Aventurine was taken in as a prisoner, is skeptical of the IPC and people in general and prefers to work alone in risky situations. Despite being peers they both have very different perspectives (and as a result are exploited by the IPC in different ways).!<


nxriaki

>!ohh I see. I don't know any Japanese so I was just going off of the vibes in the comic and your description 😭 the part about the worker seeing more of the real him is interesting, I perceive him as not really letting anyone see what he's really like. but I can also see him doing that to bank on people not agreeing with his methods and get driven away...!< >!the more you think about it, the more drastic the differences between Topaz's and Aventurine's IPC experience are. to add on to what you've said, you can even see this in how Jade treats Topaz and Aventurine differently. she was shielding Topaz from seeing her and by extension, the IPC's ruthless ways of doing business in the 2.3 quest, whereas she didn't seem to hesitate to describe what the IPC is truly like when first meeting Aventurine.!<


8_Esther_8

Nice. I got a 2-cycle MoC 12 run after getting +15% BE from upgrading my Firefly's relics. Top E0S1 Acheron, Bottom E0S0 Firefly. Tbf it's probably harder to 1-cycle top half cuz I need SW to RNG hit lightning weakness on Argenti twice.


Anemoblaze

I wish I had enough pulls to try for Jade…I like her character design and loved her in the story too plus she’s really beautiful and I wanna whip enemies into shape lmao. also I have Topaz and Aventurine too I’d just be missing boss lady…


HemaG33

I'm definitely not gonna reach pity with my world being barren, but the fact that the 20 pulls I put into the FF LC banner got me 2 MotPs has been amazing tbh. I think I'll just throw the rest of my pulls there until it ends in hopes of getting S5 (At S3 rn)


Tsavorae

Ummmm... can anyone who knows KR tell what's this is in English letters: "김미소". It's a VA's name, but searching on Google isn't really helpful. Translate says it's "Kim Miso", but I can't verify.


floralbreeze

high possibility a newer/less known voice actor, after doing a round of google i only found one audio book and a bunch of role in exos heroes credited with the same 김미소 name


Tsavorae

> a bunch of role in exos heroes Willing to bet it's the same VA. Exos Heroes should also be a gacha game. So there's that. I'm gonna go with "Kim Miso" for now. Thanks.


shin_bigot

Kim mi-soo I assume? Could also be Kim mi-sook but one character is missing for that .


Tsavorae

It came from [ZZZ's VA announcement]( https://x.com/ZZZ_KO/status/1806178218224837025) for Lucy.


shin_bigot

It's probably Kim mi-so only but I couldn't get any info as well unfortunately.


Tsavorae

Thanks anyways, mate.


Acceptable_West_1312

It's just my skill issue or destruction path are very poorly synergizes with Boothill? It's literally saying "Own Firefly to use it at 100%, Boothill are getting 10% of power"


RevlimitFunk

Hey it's not like it really matters since we can't even pick the path at the start anyway! Yippee


PomegranateWise5010

DU in general seems to heavily favor firefly


dungalot

...Boothill is a Hunt? Nihility actually works better with him imo..thanks to the Break Efficiency blessing and the DoT sharing blessing helping to spread his megacancer breaks.


Zeik56

In DU? Not really. I can't think of many that don't work with him. They do work better for Firefly, since she naturally cuts her health, but most of the blessings simply require getting hit and/or healing, which will happen if you're running him with Gallagher. 


SirPawsalott

Divergent Universe >!Any advice on collecting 16 Blessings of the same Path?!<


euphemea

So far I have 6 out of 9 Boundary Equations collected (missing Abundance, Remembrance, and Nihility). I've been trying in vain to get the last three, and I might take a break. * You should pick a Path to chase very early on and always take those blessings first, even if you end up with 0 equations active. For this reason, it's better to chase these without Threshold Protocol enabled. * Cyclical Extrapolation can help give you a better start to a run, but it's limited to 1 Path per week. * Avoid Occurrence domains, as these are the most likely to be unhelpful. Combat domains are very consistent for getting 3 blessings per room. * Shops aren't usually super helpful except to try to look for sealing wax of your chosen Path or the Man-Made Meteorite (though if you do get the Meteorite once you have 12-13 blessings, it increases your odds of a successful run by quite a bit). I still usually enter the one at the start of the 3rd plane and hope to see the Meteorite. * For rerolling, I usually decide what to reroll based on rarity (i.e. if I have 2 of the 3\* blessings I stop fishing, or 5-6 for 2\* and 8+ for 1\*). Hopefully someone else has better advice, as I still haven't completed all of these, but this is what I've been doing so far, to varying amounts of success (some Paths took me 2-3 tries, these last few I've done 10+ without any successes).


SirPawsalott

Thanks for the tip, RNGesus hasn't been kind to me neither, as I've only completed Hunt for now. That being said, I'm grinding Stage 1 in attempts to speed run the whole process...


0scar-of-Astora

Suggest me some fun FUA teams to try in DU other than RRAT (I only have Ratio from that team). I got Himeko E2, Herta E6, Xueyi E6, March E4, maybe some other 4 stars I'm not remembering. Edit : Oh yeah, Clara E0 too.


NSF-Loenis

perhaps it's been my own luck, but very few bosses and enemies in DU seem to be quantum weak, so xueyi is hard to recommend outside of super break (lots of IMG weak for HTB). You could try herta and himeko with march and keep a flex slot open. shop for remembrance and elation blessings and pray for good luck in general.


Grimy_Bunyip

xueyi e6 is quite interesting for fights with enough enemy gauge. Classic tingyun sparkle works reasonably well for her. She prefers to hog as much of the gauge breaking to herself and sparkle helps with that a lot. Hear she does well this apocalyptic shadow because there's just so much gauge to break. she kind of flounders once enemies run out of toughness though.


Nihilus88

How unpredictable are reruns in HSR right now? I'm waiting for Silver Wolf to complete my Acheron team


roquepo

Pretty sure they will finish up 1.X reruns with Huo Huo and Ratio in 2.4, Huo Huo looks like BiS for Yunli and Ratio somewhat benefits from Jiaoqiu debuffs. In either 2.5 or 2.6 I expect them to mix the 2.X reruns with some 1.X second reruns. If I have to guess, the ones that make more sense to rerun soon-ish are Kafka, following or preceeding Swan's rerun, and Seele cause she was both the first banner and the first rerun.


henryk_kyouko

No way to know right now. But I'd just wait for Jiaoqiu on the 2nd half of 2.4 instead and skip her, Pela is good enough on that team


Nihilus88

It's more of a personal preference though. Otherwise I'd pull for him


Zeik56

First reruns are somewhat predictable, within a certain timeframe. We can expect Huohuo and Ratio in the next patch or two, for example. But second reruns have never happened and we don't know how they're going to happen, so they could not be more unpredictable.


Nihilus88

That's tough.


YoungLink666-2

day 4 of waiting for Feixiao personally i really can’t wait to see the torso area of her outfit. i *personally* hope the shorts mentioned in the leak are actually a jumpsuit similar to Topaz’s jumpsuit, and that there is NOT even a hint of qipao in her clothes. i also cant wait to see how her overcoat actually looks, especially the colour


ratiosexual

really feeling the be drought 😔 my poor ff only has 119 be out of combat 😔


RednarZeitaku

OT twitter >!Accidently pressed "For You" tab instead of "Following"... worst mistake I've ever done!<


KazzumaYagami

>!what is on yalls feed for such a reaction? Mine is just art and things I like, and for the rare cases there's some drama I just ignore it or click "I'm not interested". Works pretty well 😭!<


DesertLion7

[This is so funny](https://x.com/BlabbyDuck/status/1806318334574485912) (Ratiorine + Haikaveh) I'm laughing through the pain...my poor blondies I didn't realize this Aventurine fan art I shared yesterday was unfinished, [here's the glorious final version in all his beauty](https://x.com/SandiTK_gbf/status/1806298544367870377) 🥰


ratiosexual

NOT HIM STILL IN HIS BOSS FORM 😭😭😭 LITERALLY LOCKED IN 😭😭😭 and my most beloved genshin ship + my most beloved hsr ship, thank you thank you thank you


DesertLion7

Yes!!! My favorites from both games, they have a vice grip on me like no other ships have had in over a decade 😭 There's just something about them


ratiosexual

my friend 🤝 big fan of their whole 'abrasive affection' thing, i can't explain it too well but every single one of their interactions whether on- or off-screen is truly PEAK fiction. 10/10, hoyo cooked


zorafae

Aventurine still trying to fight in hospital clothes, a cast and using crutches... That intervention was clearly needed. ^(I'm losing my mind.)


ratiosexual

"i can still fight"-looking ahh mf. bro thinks he's a shounen protag 😭😭😭


ZweisteinHere

I'm kinda driving myself insane by looking at comparisons and sheets and calcs and pros and cons and- anyway, Blade + Jade speedtuning is wack. So, to make sure I'm not completely wasting my time, could someone tell me if I understand advance forward properly? Jade has 50% in her kit, so say that I want her to go before my 160+ SPD supports, is it as simple as doing [JadeSPD]x1.5 to get her effective speed, or is there more to it similar to how percentage-based SPD bonuses are calculated using a character's base SPD, with flat SPD boosts being added at the end? Basically: will a Jade at 110 SPD act as if she were 165 SPD for her first turn? (110x1.5=165)


CTheng

The formula for equivalent speed after action advance is >Spd / (1-AA%) So for example if you Jade is 110 Spd, and she start the battle with Action Advanced (AA%) of 50% Then: >110 / (1-0.5) = 220 Equivalent Spd. So you Jade is almost always guaranteed to move first.


National-Target9174

50% AA is equivalent to 100% speed for that action, as you take the AV of that turn (say 100 for 100 spd) and multiply it by 1-AA (as 100% AA gives 0 AV, and 0% AA doesn't affect your AV) 10000/Spd = AV * (1-AA) 10000/Spd/(1-AA) = AV So basically you divide the spd by (1-AA) to get effective speed. Like a 50% advance is spd/0.5 or 2x more speed.


ZweisteinHere

I see, I see, that makes more sense. So then she won't need any speed subs at all to be the first one to act (since just base SPD alone would put her at 206). Appreciate the help!


123kapp

50% advance forward is like cutting action time in half. So basically 2x the speed at her fist turn.


Dreadofnight19

Idk about yall but.... 2.3 spoilers >!Robin's new song fit Sunday and Robin more. Not her(FF) End of rant!<


McTimer

>!I'm almost confident this song was made pre-rewrite, Robin had a more active role there!< >!Or Firefly put it on herself, she is kinda a swiftie analogue in HSR!<


ratiosexual

>!what's this about a rewrite? hoyo kept us from getting more robin?!<


CTheng

>!In the old leak from around November of last year, the plot of Penacony was very different.!< >!Misha's role was very different. He was the instigator who corrupted Penacony with the Stellaron in order to save his sick/dying grandfather (seemingly a Mikhail who is a different character from Misha). And the final boss is a corrupted Watchmaker instead of Sunday.!< >!In that plot Robin was apparently working for Watchmaker. But in reality she was a mastermind Emanator of Harmony who faked her own death to draw out the the corrupted Watchmaker.!< >!Note these are reconstructed from all the leaked plots available. It might've been two or more seperated plots that were planned/considered.!<


Naiie100

>!Hold up, old Penacony story sounds kinda lit. Sadly, it got leaked because SOMEONE COULDN'T STOP THEMSELVES IN BEING SUCH AN AWFUL HUMAN BEINGS.!<


McTimer

>!We know somewhat about the early version of Penacony's plot with different tidbits as "Misha is the final boss" (there is even a model of him with red eyes), "Robin stages her death to lure out the spy", "SAM's armor is made out of Swarm corpses" n such. Currently unknown when exactly things changed, but if anything, the September leak of Penacony might have been one of the reasons.!< >!But who knows what happened there. Story could have been better or worse, we will never know. But some people (me among them) do bring it up from time to time as a possible explanation for why 2.0-2.1 and 2.2-2.3 have a jarring shift!<


ratiosexual

>!no... we could've had more of schemer robin... 😭!<


gutemorning

>!damn...I would pull for her if she was a schemer like her brother!<


Finlikka

Cocolia in AS 4th level is horrible, she keeps freezing or imprisoning my units but I finally managed to beat her atleast. I need nearly 200 points to get 3 stars though and I won't get that unless I somehow kill Cocolia faster which I think is quite impossible.


Odd_Thanks8

Gallagher with multiplication handles Cocolia pretty soundly. If you're using HMC, give them DDD for even more action advance shenanigans.


Cookiecrabbies

As someone who doesn't play genshin what are mixed banners and how would that work in honkai?


0scar-of-Astora

They put up a single banner which lets you select who the featured character or LC of that banner will be out of a list of characters and LCs. Pity is same as typical limited banners but with some major differences. One is that if you lose 50/50 it will not be to standard characters/LCs but to one of the other characters/LCs you could have chosen for the banner. (If you picked a character as your goal on the banner then you can only lose to other characters you could have picked, not to LCs. Same for picking LC as the goal, you won't lose to a character in that case .) Second, and **this is the reason people hate this banner in Genshin**, is that if you lose, your **guarantee will only be remembered if you get the next 5 star drop before the banner goes away.** If the banner goes away and comes back a few months later, **it will remember your pity but not your guarantee.**


plussy_fly

So let's say there's a "stellaron hunter" mixed banner, they'd let you pick from Silver wolf, FIrefly, Kafka, and Blade to be the target character for your 50/50, however it's pity counter is different to you're normal limited banner pity. In genshin the mixed banner pity carried through to the next mixed banner but the 50/50 guarantee doesn't. Edit: also you could lose your 50/50 to one of the other options. (So you could pick Blade and lose to Kafka)


Cookiecrabbies

Ah thanks for the information ☺️ 


HayashiKhun

Finally cleared [DU Protocol 6](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/756775481529073695/1255898606242893946/IMG_20240627_225124.png?ex=667ece39&is=667d7cb9&hm=6f0716620e613bf7db91f43822dd6b56ba94dfd766fdb065c5d1d2c198e8aead&) :D Got super lucky with the weighted curios and blessings but I'm still suprised I haven't encountered the new Occurrences yet besides the biblically accurate mechanical angel lookin one, even though I always go to occurrence rooms in every run. Also question, does Ruan Mei occurrence also pop up in Reward domains or only on Occurrence domains?


Iloveyousomuchlmao

Ruan mei also pops up in reward domains


HayashiKhun

Nice to know, thx.


lell-ia

Any tips for level 6 DU without any Firefly teams? I even pulled for RM because I don't think we're getting a Harmony male anytime soon, but I'm still struggling lol o<-< Also I feel like Aventurine is kinda ass with Boothill lol the taunt sucks so bad


Maobury

I cleared it with FUA Clara, abundance x elation advisor physician equation, using double sustain. But any FUA dps should work. Clara was the best option against Avenboss. The abundance and elation blessings help you to stay alive long enough to chip the boss’s health off.


HellishLuck

FUA teams are really good with the Propagation/Elation/Nihility combo equations for Spore damage (especially the 3* Borehole equation). If you combine the tankier characters like Aventurine/Clara/March and go for the survival blessings/curios on the side it makes it easier too. If you can ever get the crown curio that lets you skip a fight then use that to skip the second boss, it buys you more time to fill out equations. I haven't used Boothill a whole lot but I did switch to tankier gear on him when I was using him in there, he's a squishy boy.


nxriaki

I cleared it with the FuA trio + Ruan Mei. City Restorer equation is huge for survivability thanks to Aventurine. I also got lucky with getting Ruan Mei II and III occurrences, so maybe you can spam occurrence domains for that? Defensive blessings are also really important. Another strat is the good ol' capitalism strat, Price of Peace and friends work well in this mode too.


Tinaofthedawn

Okaaaaaay I did the quest!!!!!! 2.3 spoilers >!I think It's pretty wholesome that we have a confirmation about how much SHs care abt eachother. I really didn't expect to like Jade but oh here we are. She so morally gray i love it. I also adore how she calls Topaz and Aven "child" and "kid". I felt really really really really really really bad about the 3 nameless and Gallagher. It was heartbreaking to see Pom Pom cry... I was like....same baby same... Also pleaseeeeeeeee I fucking love Argenti and Boothill lol. Ratiorine is still on top for me but these two were adorable. And please let Aven and Booty go kick Oswaldo's ass together... We need them. Still don't really care about Firefly tbh, the cutscene was cute tho. The info we got about the cornerstones having different powers was really interesting. Can't wait to see the rest of Stonehearts. I'm really curious about what Sunday is going from now. I'll miss my little birdie:(((((!< Overall 8/10 Question >!Did Robin ask for Sunday's freedom and in return gave Jade info about the Order not being there anymore? Or was it sth else? And I think Jade was teasing Sunday to join the SHs. The theory makes a lot of sense and I love it but idk what role he would fit in tbh!<


aoi_desu

Finally fought cirrus in DU, after all memes i saw about cirrus being seele looking at my turn my turn my turn clock, its kinda funny that i am the one that is kept getting turn and not giving turns to cirrus lol, firefly + advance forward hunt gold blessings + break efficiency is such a cheat combo lol


roquepo

Cirrus has already been nerfed. E1 Firefly with the turn on break blessing already trivialized Cirrus before the nerf though.


ajinata84

where can i find starrail meta discussions on reddit?


sicknasty_bucknasty

Best bet is joining a discord community.  Main hsr reddit is filled with nothing but people gooning to memes. Leaks reddit has some meta talk but you have to just refresh this thread or check new posts about specific leaks.


roquepo

Here kinda. Super spread out though. You can also see a post pop up in the main sub from time to time. You can also check mains subreddits for that.


LucyStar3

Is March 7 good in break teams? I haven't pulled Firefly but rest of my break team is ready, so can I use the new March instead?


_Madara_

You can. https://youtu.be/SC3IxJsWCdw


shin_bigot

After building my Hanya, I have found great enjoyment. A nice character with even better animations.


13_is_a_lucky_number

I got Hanya back when she debuted along with Argenti, and have been using her since. She can't spit out enough SPs to keep DHIL going all the time, but she's my fave support nonetheless.


truthfulie

Her animations go *hard* for a four star.


yodelingllama

Hanya is love, Hanya is life


burningparadiseduck

Bird event >!I finally got second place in multiplayer. I’m crying tears of joy 🥹.!<


autummbeely

[This tweet is taking me out](https://x.com/stanginam0/status/1806015733958353084)


yuhana851

*comes in* Argenti *leaves*


Naiie100

Ah yes, the _Beauty_ man.


mooncakerux

My pookie wookie


kalinaanother

#Argenti


Maobury

🌹


verdantsumeru

agreed


raidenshogunpirata

What's the recommended build for Jiaoqiu? Is 2x messenger + 2x pioneer good? Vonwacq? Is Showtime viable (I don't have the event LC)? I know he can get dedicated sets in the future but I wanna have something for him while I work on his BIS build later.


CTheng

Wait for V3 first. If DoT is added to his base kit, 4pcs Prisoner set might be a good option. If they make him more (non DoT) DPS oriented, 4pcs Pioneer set might be good. Currently, outside of his sig and S5 Tutorial (event LC) his best LC option is S5 Eyes of the Prey, simply because of the EHR. Showtime is maybe OK for some DPS, but he will have a hard time reaching his required EHR.


raidenshogunpirata

I'm not counting on the possibility of him all of a sudden becoming a DOT unit, it is what it is for now. I just want him to give Acheron max stacks ASAP. My S2 Eyes is with Black Swan, so it's not an option. Gonna see if I can get his LC, otherwise Showtime it's all I have I guess. Thanks for your response.


smol_dragger

If you're primarily running him as an Acheron stack generator, then I'd go 2p Messenger (but really, whatever gives you the most SPD/EHR) as his personal damage isn't that significant in her team. If you have Pearls it's also a viable option to boost Acheron's numbers, it doesn't do anything for his stack generation but it never hurts to have DEF shred.


bookbirdstar

I lost the 50/50 on firefly, how's yunli looking?


Grimy_Bunyip

[she's looking about this good](https://imgur.com/gZzupxi.png)


Omegaforce1803

How's the math with Robin instead of Sparkle? The diff between Huohuo and Lynx doesnt seem as noticeable unless its something like PF I guess, I'd rather have more survability in that case honestly, also I wonder if Robin makes it so that its better to run another solo dps like March instead of Tingyun


Grimy_Bunyip

so, note the calc is just 3 targets who do single target attacks at 158 base spd. the more single target enemy attacks, the better lynx is. Fewer? Huohuo gets better since you have better ult uptime if fewer enemy attacks burn through your yunli ults. no idea on robin yet, haven't rigged up a single robin gallagher qpq team yet. I'm inclined to say it sounds not that great, but maybe I'll get around to it. just feels weird you know? So much of robin's value comes from teammates spamming attacks. And a yunli tingyun sparkle team just doesnt do that.


Omegaforce1803

> the more single target enemy attacks, the better lynx is. Fewer? Huohuo gets better since you have better ult uptime if fewer enemy attacks burn through your yunli ults. Thanks for clarification! > just feels weird you know? So much of robin's value comes from teammates spamming attacks. And a yunli tingyun sparkle team just doesnt do that. Yeah, thats why I'm thinking of using Hunt March to get more value out of Robin (Something like Yunli, HMarch, Robin and Huohuo/Lynx), since I don't own Sparkle, I'm looking for team comp alternatives, I think there's already a showcase of this comp in the Yunli Mains subreddit and did pretty well but it had very unrealistic builds lol


roquepo

Have you done calcs for E1 Clara vs E0 Yunli? E1 can get you lots of damage thanks to Sparkle.


Grimy_Bunyip

So, in practice, I find that a lot of enemies minus bosses tend to die before E1 matters. And that it can be a bit RNG to set up. [But once it's set up](https://imgur.com/tPIESW3.png), E1 clara seems to perform about on par with E0 yunli.


roquepo

Thanks!


boxiom

Oh wow! Where do these calcs come from? Does this imply Lynx is a DPS increase from HuoHuo? Also is there a reason she got HuoHuo in her top comp instead of FuXuan like Clara? I didn't think she needed the energy


Grimy_Bunyip

[I made it, you can find the github here](https://github.com/GrimyBunyip/StarRail/tree/Develop) > Does this imply Lynx is a DPS increase from HuoHuo? No. There are massive diminishing returns on Aggro buffs. Using Lynx over Huohuo for E0 Yunli makes sense, especially if you are burning through ult uptime fast. If you have S1, then Lynx does not make sense. Once again, massive diminishing returns on aggro buffs > Also is there a reason she got HuoHuo in her top comp instead of FuXuan like Clara? I didn't think she needed the energy She has 240 max energy, and gets a lot of value out of extra energy.


boxiom

Ah gotcha well thanks for the calcs and the clarifications! Looks like it must have been a lot of work! Like others have said, when you get the chance would you mind doing a Clara comp with Yunli sig and Huohuo for comparison?


Grimy_Bunyip

[So, I did answer another guy's question in this thread with a clara comp with yunli sig.](https://i.imgur.com/mlk2Fxc.png) It's an upgrade over Aeon, but a very small one. Clara already self buffs aggro, massive diminishing returns on stacking aggro buffs, yada yada. Not something I'd pull for, but if you want to whale for Clara, go for it. As for Huohuo in Clara comps, eh, I don't have a fully optimized huohuo clara team set up in the sim. [I can give you an example where I kept tingyun on cogs, and did post op huohuo](https://i.imgur.com/dnwmP8R.png), but that doesn't perform too great. Simply put, Clara already has a ton of atk%, her max energy is low, so just the ATK% buff and energy regen from huohuo alone is not a ton of value. Worse than Fuxuan. Once again, not saying huohuo is bad, I'm saying huohuo is complicated and my calc needs more optimization. A significant amount of Huohuo's value comes from allowing Tingyun to swap off cogs. Which, probably means you're swapping onto dance dance dance or carve the moon or something. Which definitely complicates the rotation even more. And you can swap huohuo to QPQ. Which once again, complicates the rotation even more. I hate it and I'm just going to stick to Fuxuan. Clara needs crit. Fuxuan is good. Maybe huohuo is better, but don't expect to actually run huohuo productively over Fuxuan unless you reaaaally know the ins and outs of the clara/huohuo rotation. Which I haven't sat down and thought through. Something something unga bunga.


boxiom

haha interesting thanks for all the details! Yunli's sig on Clara seems like a trap then. People are going to see the stat 'Yunli is only 4% better than Clara with her sig' and think 'oh well I'll just pull for her sig instead of Yunli since I have Clara already' without realizing that most of its value comes from providing Yunli that taunt value that she's missing from her kit. We'll see what happens in V3, but I'm at least thankful the new LC works for both of them, compared to buffing say ult damage instead of follow up which seems like the kind of crap Hoyo would pull lately.


AnarchistRain

HuoHuo should be in Clara's best team comp too for maximum ult uptime... Plus, Fu Xuan steals agro.


roquepo

From experience, it is more of a gain when you can bank on cleave attacks hitting either one or the other than single target attacks missing Clara because they go to Fu Xuan instead. Clara is also in dire need of crit.


Grimy_Bunyip

I haven't seen this to be true in my own sims. aggro has massive diminishing returns so fuxuan being preservation barely matters. clara has a lot of atk% already and low max energy, so huohuo ult has poor synergy meanwhile clara sparkle, with 12 cr substats and cr mainstat and salsotto still has a lopsided cr to cd ratio. Fuxuan's cr buff is very valuable. just tossing huohuo into a clara team is not inherently great. You can make it work by doing stuff like swapping tingyun from cogs to some other cone, and maybe using qpq. But without these optimizations huohuo will underperform fuxuan.


dungalot

Why not give Clara HH with QPQ as well or Lynx with QPQ? Her Ult uptime is also pretty important to bumping up her dps, and also why not give a bar with Clara on Yunli's sig, I've seen more than one person in the megathread announce they intend to pull Yunli's sig just for Clara...wouldn't that be useful to calc as well...


Grimy_Bunyip

I avoid cluttering plots too much if I can. Slapping a team together is one thing, but you kind of have to optimize it too, which can take time. Especially if there are a lot of combinations. I generally never answer questions if the original question didn't directly ask or if I'm not that interested in that. > I've seen more than one person in the megathread announce they intend to pull Yunli's sig just for Clara...wouldn't that be useful to calc as well... [It's an upgrade, but not a very big one. because of massive diminishing returns on stacking aggro buffs](https://imgur.com/mlk2Fxc.png) > Why not give Clara HH with QPQ as well or Lynx with QPQ? I like Fuxuan as a baseline. It's very stable and not that different from alternatives. As for lynx, lynx just isn't as good fuxuan. CR buff is good. Aggro buffs have massive diminishing returns. Not even worth putting in a chart. Huohuo and QPQ make team building weird. Like you want to swap out Tingyun cone from cogs to... something else? Especially weird if you swap to DDD. And in practice it gets bottle necked by enemy attack rate. Most of my sims are 3 target, so that's a significant concern. I want to be able to quickly update my sim from 2 to 3 to 5 target without significant variation, and huohuo teams are just... weird for that. But doubly so in clara teams. [For example, here is a calc where I kept tingyun on cogs but added huohuo](https://imgur.com/dnwmP8R.png) As you can see, Huohuo underperforms Fuxuan if you keep Tingyun on cogs. Does that mean Huohuo is worse? No. It means a significant portion of Huohuo's value is the ability to sub out Tingyun's light cone for an alternative. And that her ATK buff, extra energy, and lower base aggro alone do not outweigh Fuxuan's CR buff. But see how complicated that is to explain? I avoid adding stuff that is complicated to explain to a chart unless someone asks directly.


UncannilyCallous

Is Clara running ERR or ATK rope here? Sorry, I'm having a hard time tying the numbers and letters (1.2 E, 2.3 T, etc) to in-game stats as I don't look into calc stuff too often. Also, does Robin fall behind on these teams or is there another reason she's not included?


Grimy_Bunyip

atk rope I just haven't gotten around to these robin qpq gallagher schenanigans I mean intuitively, clara team doesn't attack nearly as frequently as followup hunt team, and the robin advance feels weird with sparkle, so I don't have particularly high hopes


UncannilyCallous

It's a little disappointing to see how little Yunli's sig does for Clara. I almost have a hard time believing it when I compare their effects at face value, especially given Aeon on a character who's already saturated with ATK% buffs. The Skill spam with Sparkle benefitting fully from Aeon must go a long way in closing the gap, is what I presume.


dungalot

When you're doing damage comparisons in order to show how a unit is better over another, there is a need to disclose your assumptions, otherwise people will find your results questionable, making the calcs a moot point. It's how Prydwen's reputation gradually went down the drain, because they did not disclose what assumptions they were making when doing calcs and also because they did not maintain a consistent baseline when doing comparisons. Having Yunli's S1 + Sparkle allows Clara to lean into running a CR chest and building a high enough CR that she could do without FX's 12% CR buff imo. I think there's a chance you're overweighing FX's utility due to the specific build you have on Clara. Also, while you may not have meant it, but when you say "she's looking this good" in reference to Yunli, yet you show a singular Clara team that is different from the Yunli teams as a comparison but skimp out on build details and your reasoning behind the calculations or rankings, it just comes off as more feelscrafty than reliable. Plus [FX as a Preservation naturally steals more aggro than an Abundance unit would](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Aggro)...so that's a factor to consider as well.


Grimy_Bunyip

I'm just responding to individual questions in a subreddit megathread. I'm not here to build a popular website or maintain a reputation. I'm just here to talk and stuff.