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ElRealLarryCapija

Personally I’ll just wait until it comes out and see whether it’s a unpolished mess or if it’s really good


multipleusers

Remember, no pre-orders. Putting politics aside, you can’t trust publishers after the last decade to not release broken games. Just wait a few days.


Ronedog22

For sure because on release the 89.99 and 99.99 versions have 4 day early access. Im done playing games on release who do this shit.


TheModernDaVinci

I will fess up that I am weak and will still preorder. But if and only if under two circumstances: 1) it is a game that I am near guaranteed to play long term and only the most apocalyptically botched launch would enrage me (even Cities:Skylines 2 didn’t hit that mark for me and I don’t regret the preorder), and 2) the preorder swag is actually worthwhile. Otherwise I will just wait. To that end, SM2 meets the first criteria but fails on the second, so it is an after launch for me.


multipleusers

Fair, it’s your money at the end of the day. For me, I‘m so behind on games anyway that I almost never buy things at release anymore, just wait for reviews, patches and sales. There are so many good games I never got a chance to play due to other life things. ME3 was the straw that broke the camel’s back.


TheModernDaVinci

For me, the games that actually pass that criteria are far enough between it usually doesnt greatly affect my backlog. I have also been becoming more picky on my games just so that I dont end up with a lot of games that I justified to myself on the grounds of "Eh, its $10" only to not play that much, or that has too much overlap with something else. So far it has worked out well for me, but I will not begrudge others who dont agree.


KRPTSC

Preordering CS2 is something else...


TheModernDaVinci

And I regret nothing. Because I have still enjoyed it, warts and all.


Arbakos

If you're that dead set on pre-ordering make sure to buy it on a platform that will allow you to refund it. I got burned by the recent Battlefront re-release but with Steam's refund policy it was no big deal aside from my disappointment.


beefyminotour

Same. I want it to be good. The first one is one of my favorite games


DarthGiorgi

It Saber. It will be a unpolished but solid, if WWZ is of any indication. They'll probably fix it soon i hope.


Seiros_Acolyte

Wasn't one of the writers from SM2 some crazy racist woke girl?


ElRealLarryCapija

I think so, but me thinks that she’s been taken out of the spotlight after she was outed for saying those things on twitter


ElRealLarryCapija

But Personally let’s try not to let one bad egg ruin the bunch as I imagine there are but people like us who are passionate about the IP who worked on this


[deleted]

I disagree. If you don't speak with your wallet, it only encourages them.


SumoSect

Instead we can sail the high seas.


[deleted]

If you do that is your choice. I won't knock you for it. I just hope you don't do that with all games. The small indie studios that put out a great product deserve every dollar they can get.


SumoSect

Saber made over $160m in revenue in 2022. I'm sure they're doing just fine.


[deleted]

I wasn't talking about saber. I was talking more about the actual indie companies. Some people pirate everything. I don't agree with that. I don't fault anyone for stiffing these big companies though.


SumoSect

And I wasn't talking about indie games. "Vote with your wallets" Aye I'll just pirate it and see if I like it. "Wowow not like that."


13Ryan06

But she left, hopefully due to creative differences with her(?) peers


RobbyInEver

No. She completed her contract as a senior writer on sm2 and left for another. Her full employment history was discussed to death on the sm2 steam forums. Before that she worked on Gotham knights and 2 other games that tanked. She's also a trans I think. But check out her twitter posts. These caused me. To cancel my preorder. The line has to be drawn somewhere.


Lopsided_Ninja7597

Same here, if theres even an ounce of pussy woke agenda now I won't pay for it. I've had to stop playing games I used to enjoy because of this shit now getting out of control. It makes me second guess every single thing I consume now.


Trylar

I'll be cautious and not buy the game day one. I'll wait for reviews and specially story reviews. That writer may have been keep in line and the story not compromised. Depending of how it turns out I'll either buy or pirate it


Background-Meat-7928

Never preorder anything


Eadbutt-Grotslapper

Pre orders in a digital download environment are a weird concept, I get it when we are using physical and shops used to run out of copies within an hour of launch.


CryptographerMuch247

How does you pirate it?


TheBelmont34

100%. I will definitely wait for the reviews


Expensive-Text2956

I imagine it would suck to work on a team of passionate individuals and then you have that 1 asshat speak out and boom...your project is sunk. I hope people can overlook. Game looks good though


DaBigKrumpa

rong. Da messij ta send is simpul. *If youz let blu-'aired zelots roit yore gayme, we wown't buy it.* WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH!


MakarovJAC

Do you, guys, actually buy anything? Last I heard, you depend on someone to pity download a copy cracked off the paid digital ones.


DaBigKrumpa

cors we do. Da fing youz lot get teerful abaat izzat we **duzn't** buy stuff wot we **duzn't** loik. S'called "Votin' wiv yur wollet". Blu-'aired zelots (loik yu iz, frum yor avatar) gettin' involved in anyfin' uvver dan bein a Barista is almost serten ta meen a product 'as bits ov squig-turd in it, even if da rest is gud.


MakarovJAC

Then, why aren't you getting the yearly survey GW sends to Online customers to have them write down what they want? Or maybe is it that you have to sit down for 5-10 years, waiting for another guy to sell their pile of shame. Because 3D printing ain't getting any cheaper either. And add that you have to cleanup that glossy thing it comes with. So, far, GW doesn't rely on small sales to consider customer opinions. If their FOMO is anything to go by. But, go ahead, "vote with your wallet". Surely Market Research will definitely take your "vote" in consideration while others run to pay the stuff you don't.


DaBigKrumpa

HAHAHAHAHA! Kroi 'arda. Yes, Oi gets da sirvay. GeeDubya kleerly don' lissen, becos dey'z bin kompromysed. An' 3D printas is gettin' cheepa an' cheepa. Only unnerd an' fifty quid naah! You'z rong abaat dat. An' despit yor skreechin' bein' laaaad, moi wollet meenz mor ta GeeDubya dan yors. I'z only a grayn ov sand, but I'z a bigga grayn dan yu. Wy? Cos' I'z spent a **lotta** teef wiv 'em owva da decayds. An am still yung enuf ta spend a **lot** mor. An' I'z got kidz abaat ta be old enuf ta play, along wiv all dere mates. An' I'z got me own mates wot iz da same. An wen I getz a printa? Dey can all use it at kost. Dat printa will go BRRR BRRR BRRR. An dere's mor an' mor of me evry day. Yu'd betta get reddy ta take up da slak wiv **yor** wollet, boy!


NostalgiaVivec

she was fired back when the tweets first made the rounds about 2 years ago to my knowledge


Balkongsittaren

Can you link to this? as I have even written Sabre with my disbelief over this person, and got nothing back.


NostalgiaVivec

i think i saw a screenshot of her linkedIN that showed she was a writer at sabre from 20XX to 2022 or something ill have a look https://preview.redd.it/bh3dum87tf2d1.png?width=654&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c7921c02c3aa2225a28b98f840c66f133c8882d She was removed from SM2 in September 2022 and left Saber in 2023 and now works for EA


Balkongsittaren

That could just mean her part is done, and she was let go.


Balkongsittaren

Yes. I was excited about it until I found out a misandrist racist was the lead writer.


SirVortivask

Yeah but I really, genuinely don't see how that could have any big impact here. It's a story about Ultramarines killing Tyranids and Chaos forces. I don't think Titus is going to lecture anyone on pronouns.


Aurelian_LDom

"woah there, did you just assume Slaneesh gender? wow - and they call us bigots" -Nosie Marine


LkSZangs

You sure about that?


SirVortivask

Reasonably sure, yes. Anything is possible I guess, but I really don't think that would fly.


Balkongsittaren

... you'd be surprised.


SirVortivask

I would be, yes. Do you have any special knowledge indicating that anything of the sort happens?


Balkongsittaren

You're in Horus Galaxy. Are you surprised at stupid decisions companies make to get a better DEI score?


SirVortivask

Sometimes, sure. We might get conspicuously diverse marines and guardsmen, I wouldn’t be shocked there. But it would be pretty difficult to wedge in an actual lecture into this story, from what I know of it. I don’t think the studio would be that sloppy.


Balkongsittaren

Let's hope not.


SirVortivask

Yeah absolutely let’s hope not. Perhaps I’m just moderately more optimistic than most people on this sub.


Balkongsittaren

Don't get me wrong, SM1 is one of my all time fav games, and I was super excited to know about SM2, a decade later. I was really sad to learn of the idiot senior writer, and I really hope it doesn't screw over the game.


SirVortivask

Sure. I mean honestly I'm really not getting SM2 for the narrative anyway. SM1 had a passable story but it's not like I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the crazy twists. I LIKE narrative and I'd love to have a good story, but really I'm mainly getting it so I can go around and carve Tyranids/Heretics apart and customize a cool looking Marine.


Aurelian_LDom

as long as they keep it out of my games, im fine


TheBelmont34

yes. The main writer hates white men and the police. Not even kidding. I am dead serious


CrocodileWorshiper

Saber interactive has thousands of employees it sucks that they have bad writers but good news is there are plenty of people on this project most likely most gamer dudes. we will see how it launches I think that employee got in some shit over it all


BewareTheComet

Not at release, but want to try it. Devs have to earn my day one trust. Kojima and Miyazaki only 2 so far.


Pancreasaurus

These are the guys behind World War Z. I quite like that game and will admit I'm certain the game part will be good.


Balkongsittaren

WWZ was not infested by misandrist racist writers. So, different beast.


Pancreasaurus

As I said, the **game** part will be good.


Balkongsittaren

Story is a big part of the game. Story lead writer is a misandrist racist. I pressed X for doubt.


Pancreasaurus

Except you obviously know what I mean by what I'm saying and emphasizing here. Stop being pedantic.


Balkongsittaren

I'm not playing the passive aggressive game of "read between the lines". The game consists of game mechanics, graphics, sound and story. Story may or may not be good due to the writer. The rest remains to be seen.


HerrChick

The fact you can’t see the irony in this is mind blowing


Opening_Pace_6238

I want it but I dont want GW to get my money.


R00TXORD34TH

If it's not infested with woke ideology? I also hyped friends who are not into 40k for that game somewhat. We cannot cede the field to the Sigmarxists. I'm still willing to pay for a grimdark product. I'm still playing to Rogue Trader and so far it's a good game. One of the characters seems to be bi, but that's ok, it doesn't have the Blackrock Alphabet Mafia stamp. Haven't bought another mini since the femstodes debacle though, worked on my pile of shame and did other stuff. Should 40k really go full retard woke, I'm not willing to pay thousands of Dollars anymore into the hobby. I'm a retro-fan, meaning I got into 40k as a teenager more than 20 years ago, but couldn't afford it back then, now I work in IT, so I didn't waste my time on gender-studies or critical race theory or similar garbage, hence I do have money to spend. You don't have to be a facist to hate the woke.


Balkongsittaren

>I'm still willing to pay for a grimdark product. Me too, but considering the lead writer, this may be a happygrimpinkpronoun product.


TheModernDaVinci

If it helps you, any licensing fees GW would get would be fairly trivial and the lions share would go to Saber and Focus Home. Same applied with Hogwarts when people thought Rowling was getting rich off of it.


Opening_Pace_6238

That does help


Aurelian_LDom

reward people when they do the right thing, and punish them when they do the wrong thing.


Significant-Ad-7182

We shall see what happens. I suspect some kind of bs will be waiting for us in this game and I for one am not going to reward them for disappointing me.


Otto_Tovarus

I'll wait a week after release, and make a judgment on what trusted sources are saying.


the400000

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mad_baron_ungern

I will pirate it


Can_you_help_me_this

I'll pirate it if it's decent, don't feel like giving GW any more money anymore.


MrWolfman29

No. Games Workshop is not getting any of my money.


suckmoneygettittys

I’m trying not to keep my hopes up. “Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment”


Fuzzy-Tumbleweed8167

If GW gets direct money from it, no. If it's a license already bought and GW collects nothing more, maybe.


IntelligentSeries416

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SomeWeedSmoker

Why?


IntelligentSeries416

Cuz fuck em, that’s why ![gif](giphy|a9A3HLylBz2yA)


LkSZangs

I can already smell the mtx


Ready-Zebra4589

I will pirate it as soon as I can. If it is good maybe I will buy it to play the multiplayer.


Remispaive

Playing? Perhaps Buying? Well... that's a totally different story 😂


BitesTheDust55

Space Marine is one of my ten favorite games of all time. Probably pirating the sequel, unless I hear the multiplayer makes everyone’s dreams come true.


[deleted]

Not a snowballs chance in hell. When It goes on sale for maybe 5 bucks one day. I'm done giving GW any money. Loved the universe, lore, hate what GW is.


AlexCarter95

No. Keep up the boycott. Seriously, if we want GW to change course we need to stick to our guns. As cool as it looks, as exciting the multiplayer, we should not purchase anything from GW or their licensed companies. Let it burn.


Videoheadsystem

Reviews or review like video will decide for me.


gatorgongitcha

I was going to years ago when I didn’t hate GW and I bought a PS5 to play it “soon”. Now I’m good.


Own_Skirt7889

Not the first day of release, but some time after during the price cut. After all I need to choose between painting and games.


AnimeFan-computerwiz

No I’d rather play the original just in case this sequel doesn’t live up to the hype. I’m just so fking tired I can’t fight much longer, ping me when 40K is back to us the actual fans and not the woke idiots.


Oll4n1us_p1us

Most likely, I know about the controversy with the writer, but as I understand it, she left the project a while ago although she remains in the credits. Although some "inclusion" is seen when they put an asian and black ultramarines, hopefully that is the only thing they put in to satisfy the DEI requeriments. I don't like to make concessions with this, it bothers me, but it is one of those elements in the lore that, as I understand it, are ambiguous enough to be allowed without clashing with anything, since the seed of the Ultrmarines is one of the most stable.


ElRealLarryCapija

TBF, l do not believe the inclusion of a black ultramarine is a DEI practice. Most recruited ultramarines are from the 500 worlds. Considering the size and population of ultramar it isn’t hard to imagine a black or Asian space marine. Also he doesn’t have a killmonger cut -either way don’t let that be something that will turn you away from the game IMO, but feel free to disagree


ElRealLarryCapija

Also I find it funny that white scars are just super space Mongols


Oll4n1us_p1us

Yes, that is also true and I thought about it too, it's not wrong that it doesn't seem forced to us, but I do believe that these characters are there by inclusion (if they can't put female or lgbtiqadsdwfawerasda+ playable characters they will have to scratch inclusivity points from somewhere else, and what is left is racialization), although this inclusion is not directly against my values. Maybe I'm already radicalized, I don't know, but I prefer to assume the worst from before, in any case it will be a multiplayer, so I suppose that even if the campaign is a disaster that could be enough to amortize its cost.


CrocodileWorshiper

This is true i used to paint black marines cause i thought it was cool, they can also change their skin colour so its fine. its main is a white dude against bugs so diversity definitely isn’t winning in this game 😂


ChaseCDS

Gameplay looked boring and generic compared to first game. Easy pass for me.


Eadbutt-Grotslapper

Yep, I mean Jesus Christ quake 1-3 are still vastly superior to so many shooters released these days.


Fired_Schlub

sounds like we have a salamander painted blue in there somewhere. whatd they say his name was? Tilassa?


cherrymauler

thats just plain rude and uncalled for. the color of a space marine is maybe the last thing i would care about (unless by the salamanders chapter itself because of its lore reasons) but orher than that i dont see a problem having a diverse space marine cast


Fired_Schlub

neither do i, just wish the salamanders had some as well


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Fired_Schlub

did i say so anywhere? did i complain anywhere? i think youre projecting just a little bit


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Fired_Schlub

sorry you feel that way


13Ryan06

I mean salamanders aren’t black in a human sense they are literally the colour of coal, I don’t see why an ultramarine can’t be black they are recruited from 500 worlds at least one of them has a climate which produces them


Fired_Schlub

who can say


HorusGalaxy-ModTeam

Removed for violating Rule 1: Be Respectful. "Claims of innocence mean nothing; they serve only to prove a foolish lack of caution." -Judge Traggat


lastoflast67

one thing that always irks me is no one can seem to get SM faces right, they are meant to look like at least half brothers. But artist always go for discernibility over lore accuracy.


SuperbSpiderFace

I’ll sail the seas for it. Doesn’t have VS MP which was fun in the first so no reason to buy. Also I am not buying GW stuff new right now.


Guilty_Law6128

It has 6v6 vs MP per the announcement today that looks pretty fire FYI


SuperbSpiderFace

Huh I might have to make an exception. Is it SM vs CSM still? I didn’t catch the announcement.


Guilty_Law6128

It is indeed SM vs Chaos SM. Looks like they have a few chaos legions to choose from too and at least visually they look really well done


haearnjaeger

https://youtu.be/UsD4sLBFJe8?si=mwa_bLwxQt-eqCW4


[deleted]

Let it come out and be reviewed


Number3124

It looks good. However, I don't day one games. Aside from the fact that Factorio is currently trying to derail my actual job, I am going to at least wait for reviews. I am quite interested to see what Arch and Asmogan have have to say about the game. Maybe Mauler will have a stream about it too.


Gamerauther

I'll wait a year or two for it to go on sale if I get it at all.


Coaltown992

Anyone else think he looks like Henry Cavil in the thumbnail? Lol


Revolutionary_Egg961

I'll wait till it's been reviewed by someone I trust


Sh4rpSp00n

Think it hits gamepass day one iirc so luckily don't have to worry too much about buying it personally


LostWanderer88

I usually wait until the price of a game is within my affordable range. Which requires waiting a lot In addition to that, I get to experience less bugs (except tyranids) and I can know in advance if the game has been hijacked by the leftist agenda. And of course, I pay less for it It's a winner scenario except in spoilers I guess, especially if I need to know in advance which kind of woke content it has, which is a spoiler on itself


NumNumTehNum

Ill wait a week or so to see if the game is actually good or not.


King_basilisk07

Stills seems good, but still wished more ultra-marines had vaguely Italian accents


lah93

I am cautiously optimistic, but I usually never get games when they release right away The co-op and pvp mode has me excited though….hoping to play an iron warrior or khorne bezerker


Atari__Safari

I do wish they had some imperial guard so I could be reminded of how large the space marines are. Once you get used to them, you forget.


Ok-Amphibian-1617

I want to, but I'll wait and see what people say about it


RadagastTheBrownie

By the time I have a computer that can run it, Space Marine 3 will be announced.


maaaxheadroom

Looks pretty bad ass. I don’t play a lot of console games. I wonder if my x-box is modern enough. I’d spend $70 on that but not $100.


mj3641080

Yeah, since it's coming to gamepass. And I'm forward for this game.


tastey_spackle_toad

For the Emperor.


SomeWeedSmoker

Yes! Super looking forward to it!


zerosoft

HELL YEAH I AM! THOUSAND SONS BABY!


LordJaeger88

Yes but have to wait a bit and see if its a woke mess


SirVortivask

Honestly it looks phenomenal so yeah I'll almost certainly be playing it.


JaxCarnage32

Yea, but no micro transactions.


Samagony

I dunno about you guys but I am hyped for this. Original Space Marine is my favorite 40k game and this looks like it'll be just as good or even better. If they'll expand multi-player and not ruin it with p2w stuff it'll be great.


CapPhrases

No ps5 so even if I wanted too….


SomeWeedSmoker

It is on ps5.


Chaplain_Orthar

Hell yeah. Is it bad that I ordered that collectors edition? Now knowing we got libtards in high positions in the games development?


ACrimeSoClassic

I am *very* cautiously optimistic. But so far, this one is still a hell yeah for me. Edit: Just watched the trailer. *Damn* that looks good! I have officially gone from cautiously optimistic, to cautiously fucking pumped, lol.


CHogan7373

Cant fucken wait


suchshibe

Huge fan of the multiplayer for the first game so will probably buy it for that and avoid the story mode for the writing elements


kbh92

Pending reviews I'll still play it. If it's a good game, Boycotting it will be as useless as the trans crowd was when they boycotted Hogwarts Legacy. That being said - 3D print your models fellas


ImmediateKitchen8389

I don't think will be a masterpiece, but I definitely am anxious for it


Cheddar-kun

I don't understand how the hype exploded from seeing a snippet of multiplayer. If it's good I will literally build my next computer to play this game. But I won't hold my breath.


handyrails

Only if it's fully inclusive and the main character finally identifies as a gender fluid LGBTQ therian and all the custodes are female


PersonThing13

I’ll be playing it and won’t be crying about wokeness while enjoying it.


BetterDesk5234

https://preview.redd.it/4gk24vhqbb2d1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21994052f8f92601e55a394f8015f664aca11251