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Gruesome-Twosome

I only turned it on towards the end, and saw the Best Actress and the Best Picture awards. Seemed like most had Lily Gladstone winning and while that would have been cool, I was glad to see that Emma Stone won the trophy for Poor Things, as I think it was simply a more impressive performance. I also think Poor Things should have won Best Picture but Oppenheimer winning was inevitable. Will the NOLANites be even more insufferable now that their god finally got his Oscars glory? We shall see. Also: Messi the dog in Anatomy of a Fall > RDJ in Oppenheimer for Best Supporting Actor


Lucanogre

>Will the NOLANites be even more insufferable now Fortunately they’re not much of a factor on here, may it remain so.


Bravesfan82

Not only will the NOLANites become even more sufferable (it doesn't seem possible, does it?), but all these wins will just ensure that NOLAN himself continues to put out overhyped, bombastic dreck. Gone are all days of *Memento, Insomnia,* and *The Prestige.* Cinema is doomed to suffer every other year or so while he keeps going, making everything bigger, longer, and louder in an attempt (I guess successfully) to blind audiences to his blandness.


Shagrrotten

You say that about his earlier work, but when I go back and watch those movies, other than the insistent soundtrack, which didn’t bother me in Oppenheimer, all of the hallmarks of Nolan are in those movies too. The over explaining dialog, the pacing, everything.


Bravesfan82

I don't recall any of those things being a problem in those early works. It wasn't until *The Dark Knight* hit and gave him a blank check to do anything he wanted that it became a real problem for me. But again, I know I'm in the vast minority with my disdain for his recent stuff. *Memento* and *Insomnia* are under 2 hours and *The Prestige* is just over that mark. If nothing else, his movies have gotten longer and longer with everything besides *Dunkirk* being 2.5 or (much) more. He has no studio heads or producers telling him to cut *anything* anymore, so there's so much bloat. And the constant droning score very much bothered me in *Oppenheimer*. Listening to it on its own (at a reasonable volume) after the movie actually convinced me it was good music and the problem lies with NOLAN not knowing how to mix his films properly. But regardless, I look forward to his next release in 2025 or 2026 coming out and making $750M or a billion dollars and seeing everyone rave about it online. The only hope then is now that the Academy has crowned him, they won't feel it necessary to do it again.


Franz_Walsh

Some random thoughts: I watched it with some friends. Really pleased that The Zone of Interest won for Best Sound. Totally deserved along with International Feature. (Prompting the best speech of the night.) Most of Kimmel’s humor was fairly safe and mostly lame Dad Jokes, but he had a decent rebuttal to an online critique of him. Emma Stone seemed genuinely shocked to win, but it was a nice victory and to me more deserving than her first win. I like her. Happy for the Godzilla Minus One team. Fellow Japanese filmmaker Hayao Miyazaki winning and not being there for a second time was interesting. Ditto for Wes Anderson, who is now an Oscar-winning actor. Al Pacino looked like a walking pile of clothes and his bizarre presentation for best picture was so awkward and anti-climactic that it made me laugh. He’s a true legend. Pretty poignant for him to hand the award to his Insomnia director. The ceremony felt more like one I would have seen in my childhood or teens, which was nice. Not a bad show overall.


No-Face-2000

Didn’t watch it live, but it seemed like a decent show. The first thing I saw when I woke up was that The Boy and the Heron had won which was my one wish going in. So that set a positive tone for everything else. Pleasantly surprised that Zone of Interest won for Sound, completely deserved. I was certain Oppenheimer was gonna win. Awesome win for Godzilla. Loved hearing the original theme. Love that Godzilla has cemented itself in Oscars history. Oppenheimer sweeping was a bit boring, but at least it’s a pretty great movie and fairly deserving of its wins (except maybe cinematography). The highlight of it all might be Ryan Gosling performing I’m Just Ken. Dude just exudes charisma.


MyCultIsTheMostFun

I was moved by the Osage song performance. As much as I loved Poor Things as my favorite movie this year and Emma Stone's performance totally deserves the Oscar, part of me wanted Lily Gladstone to win because she would have been the first Native American to take that award. And her understated performance deserved it as well. But Emma Stone really held the role of Bella Baxter beautifully and she totally did deserve it. Her speech was great as well. I'm also glad that Poor Things won for makeup, production design, and costumes. All very well deserved. Robert Downey Jr.'s speech was also great. Funny yet appreciative. Chernov gave a great speech for 20 days in Mariupol about how it's a film he wish he never had to make. Slave Ukraini!


Bravesfan82

I haven't watched the show in a few years, but I checked online occasionally to see who won. Most of the winners were all but guaranteed thanks to having so many precursor awards, but I was happy to see Emma Stone get her second Best Actress. I still haven't seen *Killers* so I can't comment on Gladstone's performance, but Stone was marvelous in *Poor Things*. I'm in the minority opinion regarding *Oppenheimer* and didn't think it deserved any of the awards it won, except for RDJ... maybe. The fact that it won 7 or 8 including Picture/Director just boggles my mind. Also, Murphy winning over Giamatti is a damn shame. Giamatti should have 3 or 4 Oscars at this point and doesn't have a single one.


guyonlinepgh

>Giamatti should have 3 or 4 Oscars at this point and doesn't have a single one. I thought there was an outside chance he could win due to being deserving in the past, and agreed more than once. But the Academy will generally favor serious roles over comedic (though his role was bittersweet) and *Oppenheimer* was a juggernaut in general.


Shagrrotten

Before the SAG awards, I thought Giamatti was the upset that was gonna happen. There is generally an upset in one of the acting awards, not always but it happens a lot, and I thought he had a chance to make that happen. Turns out it was Emma Stone that was the upset.


CountJohn12

Pretty predictable results. Still liked Randolph winning since The Holdovers was my favorite of the year and it was cool that Godzilla with its 15 mil budget won for FX.


AndrewHNPX

So Kimmel did a good job and I have no major arguments against any of the winners. It's just that...the Oscars always seem so cold to me nowadays. I liked when they were more leisurely paced and there were fun bits like montages from old movies and so forth. Now there's barely any clips shown at all anymore and the whole attitude seems to be something like "Ok, let's just get this over with as quickly as possible". It's like any sense of joy and fun has just been removed.


Shagrrotten

I have always said that if I produced the show, I would have some short montage before or during each award that illustrates to the audience why each award is important. They sorta did this maybe 20 years ago, I remember there being a sound montage, showing the same clip (I think it was from The Patriot) with how the sound was layered onto it and what a difference that made. I thought that was so cool. There needs to be more of that and less of the actors being introduced by 5 different people for some reason, even though I think that was well received this year.


tbchico7

My queen Emma Stone winning best actress and the incredible Godzilla Minus One taking home best effects makes it an overall strong event for me despite my hearty dislike of Oppenheimer and the non acting awards it racked up


Yahko

I enjoyed it, watched it at about 40 minutes late because of not finding a proper stream, I dont have cable. I thought Kimmel was funny and delivered a good performance. Cord Jefferson winning for American Fiction was great.


comicman117

They ended just before their scheduled end time, instead of going over, which is always a positive.


Shagrrotten

I didn’t watch the ceremony, have maybe only watched one in the last probably 20 years, but I kept up with the winners on Twitter and watched the acceptance speeches on YouTube this morning. Random thoughts: - Emma Stone should just win all awards from now on. Her speech was the best of the night, she just gets more lovable and wonderful as time goes on. (I have no idea if her performance was worthy, as I haven’t seen the movie yet) - I wonder how this win will effect the Nolan fanboys. Will it shut them up because he finally has the award? I think it’ll probably take some wind out of their sails. I think the movie is probably his best job directing so far, and his speech was classy and heartfelt. - Paul Giamatti helping guide Da’Vine Joy Randolph to the stage made me love him even more. I liked her speech and her award was wholly deserved, I thought she was terrific in that movie in a performance that could’ve been one note, she played many instead. - Sam Rockwell saying Robert Downey Jr. was obnoxious was a highlight - sad to see yet another double digit nominated Scorsese movie for home empty handed. Isn’t this like the third or fourth time that’s happened? - Al Pacino’s playing everyone’s lovable grandpa going out there and awkwardly reading the Best Picture winner was weird and ill timed and honestly a bad piece of staging but good for viewing.


spattr603

We've had Faye Dunaway announce the wrong Best Picture winner & now Pacino behaving like he's never seen an awards show before. Maybe don't give speaking roles to film stars of 50+ years ago.


Shagrrotten

Not a bad rule.


Lucanogre

Didn’t watch them (been well over a decade since I have) but saw a few highlights on the news this morning, Gosling’s song sounded like an anus blaring out a wet trumpet fart while sliding down a bannister. Haven’t seen any of the noms for best picture but seriously doubt Nolan deserved anything…maybe I’m wrong but empirical evidence suggests otherwise.