3 year Ba Psych Masters
Masters after 3 yr Canadian BA
I am presently in a masters program online for psychotherapy after pursuing a 3 year BA. Are there brick and mortar schools which would accept a psychology transfer without an Honours BA? Open to IO degrees, psychology, counselling options
Thanks!
Hey everyone. I'm looking for guidance on how to improve my application due to my low GPA of 2.7. I have a bachelors in social work with 2 years of work experience in child welfare. I have not yet taken the GRE but I plan to as well as take some graduate level I/O / Stats courses.
Is it realistic to aim for a good program with a 2.7GPA assuming I can do well in all other areas of my application?
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How much does one bad semester matter? I had some mental health issues during this past semester causing my once competitive GPA to plummet down to a 3.5 transfer cumulative (3.1 disregarding transfer credits) I have research experience relating to Big 5 and will be a TA next semester, but I’m not completely sure if this will make me a competitive applicant. I’m not really aiming to go to any top programs, but I would at least like to know whether it is still worth aiming for a decent IO psych masters.
I will be studying I/O psychology at The University of Manchester this year. Is it the correct decision? Is investing my money worth it? And what skills should I gain or have if I want jobs as a fresher in US or Canada? Any advice?
Hey all,
I was recently accepted into my dream school for 1/0 psychology, but I'm a bit conflicted. I work for a company that provides tuition assistance through university partnerships, some which offer 20% tuition discount. Should I attend my dream school, or apply & attend a school that is on the partnerships list?
I'm considering factors such as opportunities after graduation and tuition & loans. Any advice would be helpful.
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Will attending your dream school also involve exiting your current job? This is a tricky question because a lot depends on potential opportunity costs if you're giving up salary/benefits. Can you share more details and the schools in question that you're considering?
Hey u/galileosmiddlefinger! Thanks for your reply. It would not! It is an online program (Colorado State University) and I would be taking classes online while still working as a Recruitment Specialist!
The other universities that my job offers tuition discounts for are schools like Purdue University Global, Capella, William James College, Chicago School of Professional Psychology, Southern New Hampshire University, Grand Canyon University, and the like.
I'm hoping through CSU I get some additional resources / exposure in the field to prepare me for post-grad, but the cost is something I was worried about. Definitely will be taking out loans, but was also curious about if it'd be worth it considering for other programs / fields, most people say "The school doesn't matter" and things of that sort, lol.
> Capella, William James College, Chicago School of Professional Psychology, Southern New Hampshire University, Grand Canyon University, and the like.
I wouldn't recommend going to any of these schools. Purdue is the only potentially viable option in the list that you provided; they have a respected residential / "brick & mortar" I/O program, although Purdue Global programs are somewhat variable in quality.
I do think that you would have better education from the faculty at CSU. If you take an average cost of $30K for a Master's degree, the 20% discount that you're getting from partner institutions is probably worth somewhere in the ballpark of $6K. I know this is a privileged assertion, but that's a trivial amount of money across the span of a successful career. I would personally go to the better school, especially if your income will let you keep to minimal or low-interest student loans.
Hi everyone, I’m graduating soon and plan on taking a gap year or two before grad school. I’m interested in doing some sort of research about South Asians in the work place. I was wondering if anyone knows about any programs that’s have research labs that are focused on Asian communities?
I'd recommend that you focus more broadly on faculty/labs that are interested in diversity and inclusion. Most folks working in that area will be receptive to projects that focus on any particular underrepresented group. South Asians are generally neglected in Psychology research, and especially in I/O -- there's a lot of important work to be done here given that research on East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) Americans rarely generalizes to South Asian Americans.
Morning Fellowes! I’m a recent graduate from University of Minnesota and I’m looking forward to a master program in io psych before I apply to a doctoral program. I’m applying to a master program first because I don’t think my GPA is strong enough (GPA3.71, Major GPA3.75) and I don’t have a lot of research experience, despite the fact that I served as a board member for the undergraduate psych journal and recently, I published my co-authored journal on campus. I wonder what master programs do any recommend based on my ultimate goal of getting a PhD? I was thinking about GMU and I’m open to other programs as well thanks
Thank you for your reply. I check on the program and it’s truly a sturdy program. I wonder if you could share your experience at WKU in terms of research, internships, etc. Furthermore, how does the program help you achieve your PhD? Thx
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Hi there!
I’m currently a student enrolled at FIU (online) who’s about to finish their BA in Psych. I was looking at online graduate school options for online in I/O psych. I so far was thinking SNHU, but after going through the thread i didn’t see it get brought up once as an accredited college. I chose SNHU due to the finances, it’s known to be good for saving money but I wanted to know if there was something wrong with that college or if there’s anything i should look for? I saw in the thread to look at Colorado State, George Mason, or Purdue first. Now that i’ve seen that i’m going to look into those before applying. My GPA has been pretty good Im at a 3.8 currently.
It's less an issue with accreditation and more one of program quality. It's not hard for an institution to get accredited by *somebody.* Regardless, SNHU has a "degree mill" reputation, so people within the I/O community are going to view a Master's from them with skepticism. (Your courses will be taught by rock-bottom faculty working at piecemeal adjunct rates.) Go to an established university, whether online or in-person, instead of SNHU or any other online-only/for-profit program.
Thank you for the help! I would’ve never known honestly. How do you find out if other programs have a “degree mill” reputation? I’ve never even heard of the term.
You typically want to avoid for-profit, 100% online institutions, like SNHU, Capella, Western Governors, and University of Phoenix. These universities have financial incentives to accept almost any student who applies, so the quality of the education that you receive is weak. They also pay their faculty dismal, piecemeal wages, which means that most people teaching courses aren't talented or knowledgeable in I/O -- if they were, then they wouldn't be working for peanuts given the ease of finding good income in our field. (Most of the faculty teaching at schools like this have training in adjacent areas, like social or counseling psychology.)
Thank you for the help as well! I looked on google and was misled because it said it was a non-profit. Is it just private schools that are for profit? or is it just those schools specifically?
Private schools can be for-profit or non-profit. What you want to especially avoid are schools that are both 100% online and also for-profit. I can't think of a single reputable institution with that profile. Moving from that category, also try to pass on 100% online and non-profit institutions. They aren't nakedly exploitative, but they're plagued by the training/quality issues that I mentioned.
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Hi all - I'm considering applying for admission to an IO Psych program. I'm Orlando based and earning my part time MBA from UCF, earned my Bach in international studies from there as well. I don't have stellar grades since I've always needed to be a working student (was also low income during UG) but my Bach gpa is 2.95 and current MBA is 3.22. I have 3 courses left for my MBA I'm going to try my best to ace to potentially raise it to a 3.4/3.5.
I don't want to stay in Orlando despite our IO Psych program being amazing, looking to relocate to DC if possible. I spoke to the former dean of the IO Psych program (I worked in grad admissions at my school and she was very happy to have an informational interview) and she suggested I earn another degree before pursuing IO Psych. I went for the MBA because it gives me more mobility. I am considering Product Management within big tech post grad but recently got placed with a DEI mentor for a program I applied to and am not sure which way to go - lots of programs won't admit me because of my GPA, my GRE was a 292 combined and 4.0 Writing. (First attempt, need to retest)
I like the concept of research but don't really know what it entails and no one at UCF seems interested in adopting a working MBA grad student to volunteer within their groups 🥲 so no research experience. I've used R in my courses so am familiar with statistical modeling but again I don't really have research experience aside from an undergraduate research project I did within our university's humanist office that got super sidelined with a scandal that occurred.
Do I make a worthy admit if I can land some research experience and raise my GRE/GPA? I'm mostly interested in employee workplace satisfaction and organizational behavior research. Would even like to focus on academia itself given how long I've worked within it. GMU seems solid but a lot of programs are asking for papers and research experience, which I don't have. Help! I'm going to look into applying to grad schools come fall for next year admittance.
I am a junior with a 4.0, and I am transferring due to the high cost of college. Would finishing my degree online hurt my chances of getting into grad school?
It depends on what institution is conferring your Bachelor's. It will quite likely hurt your standing for jobs and grad school if you're going for an online-only or for-profit option, like Grand Canyon or University of Phoenix. These institutions are pretty much synonymous with weak education and purchased credentials, and no one will see that 3/4 of your education was elsewhere because they won't get past your graduating institution. Your odds are better if you're transferring to something like Purdue University Online because the reputation of the brick & mortar university helps offset the stigma of the online degree.
The other variable to consider is whether or not you've got the experiences and coursework necessary to be a credible applicant. If you don't yet have research, internships, social or I/O coursework, and other experiences that are key for admission to good I/O grad programs, then you're in trouble because you probably aren't getting those things through an online provider.
Thank you so much for the detailed response. I'm looking at Arizona State University or Pennsylvania State University. Do you think it's possible to get internships and research experience while in online school?
Internships could be possible depending on your geographic location, resources, and work history. You aren't going to get any kind of meaningful help from an online Bachelor's program to land internships, but you might be able to source one on your own. Research, on the other hand, is extremely unlikely. You might get lucky if you're located close to a different college of university where they would allow you to volunteer, but most institutions don't have much need or incentive to get outside students involved in research.
I'd lean toward CSUSB or Hartford, which I'd place as roughly comparable. I've never met a UWF grad and the location of the campus is pretty bad with respect to finding meaningful I/O internships/work.
Hi! Looking for some thoughts and advice as I am looking to make a switch from my current career in marketing to IO psych.
A little bit of background on me - I’ve been working in marketing for 4 years and have a bachelor degree in brand management and marketing. I’ve had A LOT of experience working directly in customer experience, journey mapping, project management, campaign management, etc. I have found myself a bit burnt out - craving to work more closely with people and am extremely passionate about employee experience - I've been researching possible career paths, which has led me to IO psych.
my question is - if my degree isn’t in psych, and I have basically no “real” experience in it (except for some slight consumer research / purchasing behavior), am I going to find myself struggling to get accepted into a competitive MS IO Psych program?
I am looking specifically at online programs since I can’t move right now - George Mason, Purdue, austin peay, auburn..
Would love any thoughts or advice!
You might need some Psych coursework to apply to certain programs, but otherwise you're probably fine. Your essay will need to do the work of explaining this career shift, so put some time into honing your statement.
Hi everyone! I’m struggling to make a decision for graduate school and am hoping someone could provide a little bit of insight for some of these programs. So far I have been admitted into the Master’s programs at Illinois Institute of Technology, Saint Cloud, and San Jose State. I also applied to to university of Maryland Baltimore county and am fairly confident I will be admitted based on the other schools that have. I’ve obviously done my research on each of these schools but am wondering if people in the field know anything deeper about the reputation of any of these programs. Also probably important to mention- Saint Cloud is by far my cheapest option and going there would guarantee coming out of grad school debt free.
You'll get better training at IIT or SJS than you will at St. Cloud. (St. Cloud isn't a bad program, but the faculty and curriculum just aren't as strong.) That said, free is a pretty compelling argument vs student loans at current rates...could you live close enough to Minneapolis to commute for likely internship opportunities?
I currently live in Minneapolis as I did my undergrad at the University of Minnesota. If I attend Saint Cloud I was planning on commuting for class every day since it’s only about an hour drive there. Thanks for the reply, by the way.
BARUCH VS HOFSTRA??
i have been accepted to both baruch and hotstra and wanted to know if anyone had insight on which i should attend. baruch would be about 23k and hofstra would be about 65k, so there is a large difference in cost. however, i have read that hofstra is extremely well connected and places students in prestigious internships.
is it worth going to hofstra for the large price tag for the internship connections it provides? or is baruch equally as connected and helpful in internship placements? are they both considered the same level of prestige in the 10 psych world?
thank you!
I do believe NYC is robust in its IO network and it’s likely that both would yield fruitful opportunities.
However, Hofstra does place well upon graduation - with graduates accepting positions at respected consulting (e.g, McKinsey, all Big4, YSC/Accenture, BTS), industry (e.g., PepsiCo, Northwell Health, Walt Disney Company, JetBlue), and government organizations (e.g., MTA, NYC Citywide Administrative Services).
Absolutely no reason to pay Hofstra tuition. They aren't especially plugged into internship opportunities, certainly not more so than Baruch. Both benefit from NYC metro proximity.
Always go to the public school, you don't want to get in debt. As long as you maximize your opportunities given and make the most out of your experience you should be fine. If internship placements concern you that much I would network with current students in the Baruch program and ask them. Also, look into the curriculum required to complete the degree. Are the courses available at each university interest you more than the other?
Hiii,
I just got my acceptance letter for baruchs ms program and I was wondering if anyone who is attending or attended that program could tell me if you got your financial aid package with your acceptance letter or after you accepted your admission?
Currently looking at George Mason University and UTC for Masters programs. I'm from Georgia, meaning I can get in-state tuition at UTC due to the ACM. I would also prefer to stay closer to home. However, looking through the thread makes me worried about not being able to find nearby job or internship opportunities. Any advice? Also open to recommendations for other programs.
If your GRE is strong and you're interested in PhD, you've got UGA and Georgia Tech closer to home -- both house historically strong I/O programs, and Atlanta is a growing I/O hub with good work opportunities.
To the Master's programs, Chattanooga just doesn't afford you a lot of work opportunities in I/O. Even Memphis, your "close" big city (of 1+ hours one-way), doesn't have a lot of I/O activity. You have to look at the full picture of money, life satisfaction, and cultural fit before you make your ultimate decision, but GMU has a healthy advantage on the limited basis of academic rigor and internship/job convenience.
Additionally, do I have a chance at getting into programs straight out of undergrad? I attend a small, but well-ranked, liberal arts college as a psychology major with a 3.85 GPA. I have research experience, but it is towards the clinical psychology side because that was more of my concentration for most of college. No GRE (yet), taken psychological statistics with R that also had a lab component. Few relevant classes otherwise besides general psychology major classes and a calculus course. I did struggle some in calculus, but I pulled an A- and did very well in my stats course. Most of my worry is that if I go through with applying, I'll be making a pretty sharp turn as most of my experience in the past has been focused on me trying to get a Clinical Psych Ph.D., but now I'm considering switching because it's a hard field to get into and I'm worried about opportunities. I come from a low-income background, so I'm definitely worried about paying for grad school and having debt, so I really want what I do to be worth it.
Without knowing your GRE scores or other application components, you sound very similar to me as an applicant and I got into all the programs I applied to (including both GMU and UTC). It’s worth considering that in addition to ACM, UTC also gives a lot more opportunities to defray costs through graduate assistantships. A lot of GMU students do land really nicely paid internships given school connections and DC as a great IO location, but you’ll almost certainly be paying a lot more upfront
Hi! I was hoping to find out a little more about TAMU’s masters program. Any details about the rankings, faculty, alumni experience, job opportunities, and focus on research vs practice would be great.
Hey all,I have a lot to decide in the next two weeks. I got accepted to a good handful of programs. Between Masters and PhD programs, between Masters programs with full tuition waivers and without any guaranteed funding, and considering fit with faculty and cost of living on top of it all. I'm rather overwhelmed. Does anyone have advice on what factors are most crucial overall to consider, or anything else I should think about in making this decision?For some background, I'm primarily interested in industry at the moment, but I'm not completely ruling out the possibility of going into academia at a later time. I'm also not ruling out government work, which I've heard may require a PhD (not entirely sure if this is true or not). I'm really interested in some more O-sided topics, but I want a program that will help me hone the right skills and knowledge to be competent in solving organizational problems.
Below are some considerations I'm weighing:
1. Masters or PhD (or mobility into PhD from Masters, if a Masters program)
2. Funding/lack thereof - partial/full assistantships, not yet determined or no funding; as well as tuition cost
3. Fit with faculty/interests
4. Thesis requirement/practicum requirement
5. Area cost of living
6. Area opportunities
7. Program reputation
8. Statistical software primarily used/taught (R as opposed to SPSS, etc.)
They other person gave a lot of good info. If you want to, you can message me directly to talk more specifically. I personally don lil Putin my acceptances out in public which is why I am offering something more private. Regardless, it seems to me you should go the PhD route. They generally are funded with a stipend and you can generally master out if you do not wish to finish. PhDs are also going to have much more job availability. Since you have said that you haven’t completely ruled out academia or government work, I would say do the PhD because that’s more of a requirement for those.
Thanks for the thoughts! I definitely agree there may be more job opportunities and funding would be more guaranteed. A lot of the masters programs I applied to have actually offered me full assistantships, though, so I do still have that as a consideration as well! Thanks for offering to talk. If you don't mind me asking, what is your experience in I/O (e.g. are you a student, in academia, in industry, etc.)? Thanks a bunch.
I second u/Ill-Manufacturer7057!
IMO, funding is definitely on the top of the list. If the program is decent, I will go to the one that gives guaranteed funding. Remaining ranking for a Master's only program: program reputation (prefer the one with good alumni network) > practicum requirement (or can pick one between practicum vs thesis or do both; I did both options) tied with area opportunities (important if you want to stay in the area, could trade with alumni network) > area cost of living > statistical software (could self learn) > fit with faculty/interests (IMO it doesn't really impact that much if you are going to industry)
More things to consider: When I was applying for grad school, I only applied for Master's programs. When I decided to get a PhD, it got complicated. I had to consider between traditional (i.e., start over) or the program that would accept my Master's credits without having to retake the IO courses. I was able to transfer my Master's credits over as electives, but I have to retake the core IO courses). If you don't mind starting over like me, you are most likely to spend an additional 2 years in grad school. Looking back, I didn't regret my decision. Having a Master's degree (I learned theories during my Master's instead of directly jumping to read articles without having the foundation) prepared me well for a PhD program, especially trying to digest journal articles. I also didn't have to redo my thesis (it varies depending on the program).
Thank you (both) for your insights/advice! I've definitely heard from quite a few people that I should just go for the PhD and "master out" if I'm not feeling it. The only issue is that I really feel like it's almost more likely that I *would* "master out" rather than stay. For that reason going for the PhD almost feels dishonest, like I would be living a lie the entire time. I applied initially because I honestly didn't think I would get in and hadn't yet been fully informed on everything it would entail. Following the interview I became a lot less certain of how much I want it. I don't think I'll know whether I want to get a PhD until after I've gone through the process of getting my Masters.
I've also heard from people who chose to just get their Masters or to get their Masters and then apply to PhD programs, that they didn't regret their decision to do so. So I think I may be at the crossroads of not really wanting to do a PhD but dreading the regret of turning down such an opportunity.
Yeah, I know that completing coursework again would be part of going back for a PhD, and that's a big part of my fears. Thanks for validating my thoughts, it's awesome that you decided to stick with it in your case!
Hey everyone, like many others, I'm debating between schools. I'm stuck between a master's at George Mason or San Francisco State University. I know they both are reputable programs and got great locations for job/networking opportunities. I do prefer GM a bit more because of the faculty's research interests and its doctoral program. I'm trying to keep Ph.D. as an open option, but I'm also thinking the faculty's research interests might not weigh in as much for a master's. I will also be out-of-state and in comparison, George Mason will be on the pricier end, but doable. I guess it really boils down to whether GM's program/faculty is worth the extra tuition (\~20k-35k, depending on whether I get in-state tuition). Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
Both are really solid from an internship/work perspective. The location and faculty are equally good in that respect. (SFSU has a smaller faculty, but lots of them are deeply embedded as consultants in the practitioner community, so I don't think you would be disadvantaged in terms of access.)
However, if PhD is a real possibility for you, then that should tilt you toward GMU. In the CSU system, San Diego & Long Beach are the two Master's programs that have a better track record of sending people on to doctoral study. SFSU, in contrast, is really geared toward the terminal Master's student.
Hey! I can talk to you a little about Baruch (I was also accepted and have talked with them extensively). I will say that in terms of overall practical skills and networking, Baruch likely has one o the best opportunities for IO industry. To talk a bit mor in-depth you can direct message me.
would i be able to message you to? just got into baruch and am wondering if they have good connections for internships and jobs / if they help you get them
I'm at Baruch rn and they have an internal job board where they post about lots of I/O opportunities! We also have a big group chat for everyone in the program, where people sometimes mention openings at their company
I just saw the post you made about it. I would like to let you know that I was accepted as a PhD student, so it is likely a different experience. I can try to tag you in some things that may help in the mega thread.
In no particular order, a few issues to consider:
* Baruch is *much* slower to graduate students than Akron.
* Baruch has much more convenient placement for internships and jobs than Akron.
* Cost of living at Baruch is atrocious given NYC, whereas Akron is pretty dang cheap.
* Both have recently lost faculty, but Baruch has been able to hire more replacements than Akron. IMO, the senior faculty at Akron are better and more reliable, but the junior faculty at Baruch have real promise (if they get tenure and choose to stay). Akron is financially in worse straits than CUNY and hasn't been able to hire at the rate that they ideally would.
Trying to see if it's worth it to apply to PhD programs without retaking the GRE. I got 162V, 152Q, and 4 AWA. Do decent scores in other areas help offset the lower Q score? All other application materials are reasonably impressive.
It's hard to judge those scores in the absence of more info about your holistic qualifications, but your quant score is pretty soft. That would be a turn-off for a lot of prospective advisors, particularly given that first-round cuts are oftentimes based on numbers rather than qualitative aspects of your portfolio (essays, letters, etc). I'd think seriously about a reattempt, especially if your prep for the first try wasn't very serious.
Hello!
I'm planning to apply for IO psych PhD programs this Fall. I've done a lot of research on it, but thought I'd get some genuine opinions from people currently in the field.
Which IO psych program are generally considered top tier, that have a great reputation in both academia and industry?
Thanks in advance!
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Has anyone attended the MSOP program at Univ of Hartford? Unfortunately there aren’t any in person local programs so I need to find something 100% online
If you're going online, I'd look at Colorado State, George Mason, or Purdue first. Those are programs with established, respected in-person options, so the alumni network and reputation within the I/O community are better. Hartford is fine, but they're not as strong of a program either in-person or online.
Hey! Not the original commenter, but do you know anything about Eastern Kentucky University? I'm applying for their online MS program and haven't seen much about them on this sub!
Their curriculum is fine, but they don't have the same level of name recognition as the three that I listed. EKU was always a small, regional program that didn't have much presence before they moved fully online a few years ago. Given that you can pursue an online degree from a growing number of competing programs, I'd focus on ones that have a stronger reputation in the field.
Hi everyone! I'm making my final decision for schools and I'm in a bit of a bind. The schools I'm choosing between are master's programs at George Mason, university of Tennessee at Chattanooga and university of New Haven. Based on my calculations, New Haven is coming out to be the cheapest followed by UTC and George Mason being around the same. I'm leaning towards George Mason but wondering if the extra cost is worth it? (About $14000 more than New Haven) I also wanted to mention that I really liked the program culture at UTC but also really like the strong training and abundance of opportunities at George Mason but I'm worried about the cost of living. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks! :)
I know that this a bonkers privileged thing to say, but: if it gets your career off to a stronger start with better, higher-paying jobs, then $14k is nothing over the span of your career. I wouldn't let that difference dissuade you if everything else about George Mason felt like a good fit. (UTC has a great culture, but it's just not proximal enough to I/O hubs to put you in anything but stock HR jobs.)
Hi everyone! Like many others I am also having some trouble deciding between schools, if anyone could provide some insight. Right now my top choice is between George Mason and Minnesota State Mankato. I really like the program culture at Mankato from the grad students I’ve talked to so far, but George Mason’s proximity to DC might provide better internship opportunities? I am a Californian so they would both be out-of-state for me, but I have a partial waiver for GM.
George Mason, no question. Mankato has a nice culture, but it's over an hour from a large city (Minneapolis) and simply can't offer you the kinds of work experience that you'll get outside of DC at George Mason.
From what I've heard, George Mason has incredible internship opportunities, great faculty, and great connections. You having a partial waiver for GM seems like a huge plus too!
Yes, I was referring to their Master's program specifically. In the meantime, reach out to the graduate school to inquire about the status of your application if you're worried. They may be able to provide a timeline or let you know if you're waitlisted.
Like some other commentors I am having a hard time choosing between master's programs: I've been accepted to St. Cloud State and Appalachian State. I also had an interview at Minnesota State Mankato but I haven't heard back from them yet.
I've heard a lot about App State, they're high on the SIOP rankings, and I've also had a great experience with them so far.
The problem is, I would be paying out-of-state tuition which could end up being tens of thousands more than my other acceptance at St. Cloud (where I would have almost free tuition in the first year)
Is it worth paying that much more for a seemingly better program? St. Cloud doesn't seem bad by any means but I'm worried solely because I don't know much - they don't offer a lot of information.
Obviously Mankato looks great but I'm am unsure if I'll get any funding let alone get accepted at all at this point!
Do you intend to live in Minnesota after grad school? If so, don't discount the networking value of being there with others who are likely to also stay in the area, getting involved with MPPAW, local internships and connections, etc.
Also remember that your employers will be varied in their knowledge of reputable I/O programs. Other I/Os may know that App State is great, but if general HR folks are looking at your resume, they may never have heard of it.
That being said, I don't know much about St. Cloud either. Definitely ask if you can talk to some students and get more info on alumni placement/experiences.
Thank you for your response! I would definitely like to live in Minnesota afterwards, so that's a great point.
You're right, I think I got caught up in the whole application process and learning about the I/O world that I forgot that not everybody would even know/care where I went as long as I know what I'm doing. I'll have to see if I can find some students who can attest to that part!
Hi all, I'm trying to narrow down my decisions for grad school (grateful to have so many choices!). I have a program that is a bit lesser known that is offering me an assistantship with a full tuition waiver, and some that are more known to be good programs but haven't gotten back to me on assistantships yet. The program offering me a waiver could also allow me to continue onto a PhD if I'm interested. In your experience, what's the importance of prestige for Masters programs--would it be more worthwhile to potentially have to pay for tuition at a better program?
Speaking from my personal experience (a brief background: I went to a mid-tier Master's program where most of my cohort went to the industry after they graduated. I was able to get into several PhD programs), this really depends on your end goal. Several important things to consider as you narrow down your decisions. Are you planning to go applied after getting your Master's or continue onto a PhD? This could totally influence your choice! If you plan to go applied, you need to consider the strength of the program's alum network (i.e., strong). Do the internships/ job opportunities come from the alum network? Could you get a job/internship locally or have to relocate? What is the program structure/coursework? Focusing more on applied/ research/ both? How many core I-O faculty are currently in the program, and how supportive are they to the current students? Is there a balance between the I-side and the O-side, or is it heavy on the O-side? If you plan to pursue a PhD, does this program train you in research excellence (e.g., has the opportunity to be involved in research, collect data, analyze results)? Is the thesis required (obviously might not be helpful for those who want to go applied) or optional? It is also important to talk to the current students about their experience (e.g., internship search, supportive faculty, types of projects they work on for their classes, etc.). Happy to chat if you have additional questions!
Wow, these are all really helpful considerations, thank you! I'm in a bit of a pickle with some of these because I don't yet know whether I'll want to continue onto a PhD or not--this makes everything a bit more complex, because I decided to apply to one PhD that I got into, and another school whose MA I applied to offered me a PhD track as well. Knowing some things to consider from someone who's made it out the other side is very helpful, though, so thank you for your insights! If you have any opinions about programs as someone in the field, I'd certainly be interested in picking your brain, but if not, I understand!
No problem! Happy to help! It's always good to keep the options open, and yeah, honestly, I didn't know that I wanted to continue onto a PhD when I started my Master's. For sure, feel free to DM me if you have additional questions. Happy to chat!
Hi everyone! I’ve done my own research but I’m wondering if anyone could offer insight into the relative value of a Master’s from:
- University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
- Middle Tennessee State University
- George Mason
I want to keep my options open for pursuing a PhD after grad school if I decide to during my Master’s program. I also haven’t heard back yet about financial aid, which is a significant factor for me. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Program culture at UTC is good (hence the strong SIOP ratings), but it's a very suboptimal location for convenient internship and work opportunities in I/O. That alone would tip me toward UTA, but I also like what UTA is doing with their quant classes by pushing Master's students toward R instead of SPSS. All things considered, I'd nudge you toward UTA.
That said, it sounds like visa support is important to you -- I assume that you're applying from outside of the US? If so, that factor may override all other considerations given that STEM-designated programs will make your life much, much easier.
Never rely on the word of what people say will happen in the future. It's something that you have no control over and, ultimately, they have very little control over too. Something could happen at the university/administrative level that no one in the department has any power to influence.
Hi!
I am a local Texan trying to narrow down my In-state options for I/O masters programs. I am trying to decide between the University of Texas at Arlington and University of Houston Clear Lake programs. If anyone has any input, knowledge, or advice on either I would greatly appreciate it!!
They're fairly comparable mid-tier programs. For substantive differences, Clearlake has a larger dedicated I/O faculty, but UTA is teaching a better quantitative core with R/Python coursework. As a local, I'd be thinking about proximity for jobs -- if you have a strong preference for starting your career in Houston vs. DFW, then that should guide your decision. (You'll be most plugged into the local network of whatever city you choose for grad school, so the path of least resistance to your first full-time job is oftentimes in the same region.)
They're a program in transition. They have some excellent senior faculty who are moving toward retirement, and they've hired a handful of promising junior faculty who will hopefully remain with the program and be successful. However, this kind of moment is fraught for any grad program; you don't know how the program culture will change, or if the Assistant Prof cohort that they've hired will be successful and opt to remain. I'd generally rate VT as a decent-to-good PhD program, but there are open questions for them given the program timing.
Does anyone have information they can give me on these I/O Masters programs?
-University of Houston-Clearlake
-Salem State University
-Missouri State University
None of these are what I'd consider to be top / strong programs, but I'd actually rank them in the order that you listed. Clearlake has a solid curriculum, a small-but-dedicated I/O faculty, and a decent metro job market -- it hits all of my minimums to be an acceptable recommendation to a student.
It's less clear who would be teaching your classes at Salem and MO State, which is always a red flag for me. However, Salem has a good curriculum and is is at least close-ish to Boston with lots of internship and job opportunities. Far last place to me would be MO State, which has an org-heavy curriculum with less emphasis on quant skills, and is in a lousy geographic position for offering you convenient I/O work.
Does anyone have info on the PhD program at Florida Institute of Technology? I got accepted, but I have yet to hear back from 3 schools and am waitlisted at my top 2, so I wanted to see if anyone had any info.
I think the academics are fine / comfortably mid-tier, but their major knock is the very minimal amount of funding that they provide to students. You aren't getting a full tuition waiver at FIT like you would at most other schools, so you're taking on much more debt for the degree.
The design of the program curriculum is very good and the location is great for internship opportunities (albeit with a higher COL than many other programs as a consequence). They've also clearly got institutional support given the amount of hiring that they've performed. The only caution points are that it's a new program without a record of placement outcomes to evaluate, and their faculty is very heavy on Assistant Professors. (Working with a newer faculty advisor can be just fine, but there's a heightened risk that they won't stay at MSU relative to someone with tenure and seniority.)
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What are my chances of getting into Akron's master's program?
\-3.92 gpa, majorgpa 4.00
\-I'll have a year and a half of research experience in two different labs. One is clinical personality research and the other is social personality research. No thesis or presentations, unfortunately.
\-3 letter of rec. 1 from a stats teacher that I built a little bit of rapport with, and the other two are from my two labs which should net me solid recommendations.
\-Studying to take the GRE online in mid to late May.
\-Taught myself a little R and python for data analytics.
\-And I'm having some graduate students and one of my professors look at my personal statement and CV currently.
I'll be applying to about 8 programs in total but Akron's really my ideal choice. Because it aligns with my interests and allows me to stay near family/built connections near family. What do you all think my chances are?
You're quite safe on a credentials basis. The wildcard is the cohort size that Akron will accept. Like a lot of programs that offer both a PhD and a terminal MA, the MA cohort size and level of financial support depends on what happens at the PhD level. There are some years when they don't take MA students at all, or they only take 1-2 people. I'd recommend reaching out to inquire about their recruiting goals for this year, if you haven't already.
Hi everyone, posting again here. Does anyone have experience with or thoughts on the University of Limerick Master of Work and Organisational Psychology/Behaviour program? Specifically on the quality of the program and job prospects back in North America? I’d really appreciate any info and thanks in advance!
I've never met a Limerick grad in the US, and I think the non-response to this question maybe speaks to the scarcity of their alumni in North America. (I literally don't have any pre-existing beliefs about the program because I didn't know that they have one.) Wish I could be more helpful, but maybe this reply will bump you for visibility to get more eyes on your question.
Is U of Maryland MPIO considered a STEM program? I know io is a stem major. On their international students admission page it stated the program is not, however it is listed on the general UMD STEM program list. I’m confused.
Hi! I am wondering if anyone knows any good IO Master's Programs in the UK, preferably in London. Also considering an MA in Business Management/Analytics. Does anyone have any experience doing IO in the UK? Any advice would be great :) thanks!
IIT would be the only program on your list that I'd weigh against UTA. IIT has a strong reputation for practitioner training and its location in Chicago puts you in a better market for I/O work than DFW. You've got a solid option in the bag, so just run down the clock in the meantime and see what other offers come in -- don't let anyone rush you in advance of the deadline.
Hi All, I am working on a survey for my I/O Psychology Capstone class and would appreciate if you could take some time to answer it. No worries if not as participation is purely voluntary. At the end are DOI information on peer-reviewed journals related to the topic:
Employed US- based adults aged between 18 and 75 are needed for research examining perceptions of organizational support and job satisfaction. As part of the study, you will be asked to complete three questionnaires. The time required for participation is no more than 10 minutes. All of the survey materials can be completed from your computer, smart phone, or tablet.
Please do not hesitate to share the instructions and link with your colleagues. It would be much appreciated.
Link: https://forms.gle/FJ4apEVzf7YG8WKb9
I have an interview for San Diego State (I/O masters program) tomorrow and have no idea how to prepare. Has anyone had an interview, and if yes what did they ask you?
I have only interviewed for PhD programs and not specifically for San Diego but here are some questions I have been asked and some advice:
- Why IO?
- Why do you want a masters/PhD?
- Why THIS program?
- Tell me about your research.
- What’s something interesting you found in your research?
- How would your professors/advisor/lab-mates describe you?
- Strengths and weaknesses.
- Do you have any questions for me? (Prepare several)
Basically standard interview questions. I would write bullet points on what you want to hit for each questions and then practice with a friend or career services if you have access to your undergrads. You don’t want to sound rehearsed but it’s good to practice.
Be professional, be yourself, and remember that you are also interviewing the school to see if it’s a good fit. Good luck (:
Both are adequate programs with very, very expensive tuition that is hard to justify. You're not going to receive poor training at either school, but it's hard to make peace with their cost when you have far cheaper options like Montclair State and Baruch within a few miles. (Columbia is the only NYC metro school that I feel offers actively bad training.)
If you're really set on one of the two, then a few things to consider. First, Hofstra has a better set of full-time I/O faculty, whereas NYU relies more on practitioner adjuncts and full-time faculty from social, counseling, and adjacent areas of psych. I would rate the Hofstra faculty higher on reliability and expertise. However, second, NYU generally benefits from better institutional prestige, and they have a tighter network of internship opportunities as a consequence. I've sent several students to NYU over the years who were either independently wealthy or who caught exceptional scholarship opportunities. In all cases, they landed really impressive internships within the first two semesters. You could probably get those kinds of internships elsewhere in NYC metro by being a standout student with gumption, but the NYU affiliation does seem to grease the tracks.
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Hi All,
Does anyone have thoughts/opinions on the following Masters programs in I/O? I'm curious about their reputations in the I/O community and what all folks have heard about these programs. Thanks!
\-University of Nebraska Omaha
\-Hofstra University
\-University of Central Florida
\-Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
\-Montclair University
\-Old Dominion University
SIU is the weakest program on that list and Hofstra is bonkers expensive without sufficient program value to justify it. Those would be my bottom two. ODU and UNO are good programs but in suboptimal locations for internship/work, so those would be the middle tier. Montclair State U and UCF are good programs in larger metro markets (Montclair especially), so those are probably your top two from the list. None of these are terrible programs of the "do not apply no matter what" variety, but there definitely is a gradient of quality/value in the set to consider.
Hey I was wondering if you could do the same for me. I have applied to these five PhD programs (I've been accepted into three of them):
Rice University
Colorado State University
Baruch College CUNY
Florida Institute of Technology
Old Dominion University
Again, this is just one asshole's opinion, but IMO: Rice is the standout in your list, followed by Baruch, and then the rest.
(1) Rice: A strong and growing program with some excellent faculty across all career stages, and Rice U has really good PhD stipends for students (not good in *absolute* salary terms, but relatively among the highest that you'll see for doctoral stipends). Not a historically ranked program in the field, but they're doing everything right to become one.
(2) CSU: Was strong in the 80s-90s, but has been struggling for 20+ years with faculty losses and an inability to rebuild that I don't understand. They have some good junior people now, but a program staffed almost entirely with pre-tenure, junior faculty is a risky proposition.
(3) Baruch: A reliable mid-tier program with some strong people and great local internship opportunities for students targeting industry. However, they have also struggled to retain some of their recent hires of talented junior faculty, probably due to cost of living, and they're notoriously slower at graduating students than most programs. You have to be proactive to thrive there.
(4) FIT: Most expensive due to modest/unpredictable funding of students, rather than a fixed tuition waiver like you'll see elsewhere on your list. Good culture and people that I genuinely like, but not a lot of real program assets to compensate for the cost of education. This would be my least preferable option on your list unless you're independently wealthy.
(5) ODU: An emerging program with less certain prospects. They have some excellent junior faculty, but ODU is turning into a bit of a springboard for new academic I/Os to get established before bouncing to better programs. I'd be worried about retention, and I would recommend that you remain open to the prospect of relocating to follow your advisor if they leave. (This is worth considering for any Assistant Prof advisor.)
Thank you for this. It’s hard for me because I go to a small university with no I/O presence (even the professor who teaches I/O psych has a counseling psych degree). I wish I had someone who I could go over my current acceptances with based specifically on my goals. I will say one of the most important aspects of a program for me is research.
You'll do research in any of these programs, but you'd have the chance to work with the greatest number of stronger/established scholars at Rice versus any other program on your list.
It's a very well respected program in Europe with good job placement outcomes and a record of students who have later transitioned to PhD. However, much depends on where you want to work and live -- it's not an easy degree to bring back to the US, for example, and it's tough to break into corporate jobs in the Netherlands without some proficiency in Dutch.
3 year Ba Psych Masters Masters after 3 yr Canadian BA I am presently in a masters program online for psychotherapy after pursuing a 3 year BA. Are there brick and mortar schools which would accept a psychology transfer without an Honours BA? Open to IO degrees, psychology, counselling options Thanks!
Hey everyone. I'm looking for guidance on how to improve my application due to my low GPA of 2.7. I have a bachelors in social work with 2 years of work experience in child welfare. I have not yet taken the GRE but I plan to as well as take some graduate level I/O / Stats courses. Is it realistic to aim for a good program with a 2.7GPA assuming I can do well in all other areas of my application?
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How much does one bad semester matter? I had some mental health issues during this past semester causing my once competitive GPA to plummet down to a 3.5 transfer cumulative (3.1 disregarding transfer credits) I have research experience relating to Big 5 and will be a TA next semester, but I’m not completely sure if this will make me a competitive applicant. I’m not really aiming to go to any top programs, but I would at least like to know whether it is still worth aiming for a decent IO psych masters.
I will be studying I/O psychology at The University of Manchester this year. Is it the correct decision? Is investing my money worth it? And what skills should I gain or have if I want jobs as a fresher in US or Canada? Any advice?
Hey all, I was recently accepted into my dream school for 1/0 psychology, but I'm a bit conflicted. I work for a company that provides tuition assistance through university partnerships, some which offer 20% tuition discount. Should I attend my dream school, or apply & attend a school that is on the partnerships list? I'm considering factors such as opportunities after graduation and tuition & loans. Any advice would be helpful. 1
Will attending your dream school also involve exiting your current job? This is a tricky question because a lot depends on potential opportunity costs if you're giving up salary/benefits. Can you share more details and the schools in question that you're considering?
Hey u/galileosmiddlefinger! Thanks for your reply. It would not! It is an online program (Colorado State University) and I would be taking classes online while still working as a Recruitment Specialist! The other universities that my job offers tuition discounts for are schools like Purdue University Global, Capella, William James College, Chicago School of Professional Psychology, Southern New Hampshire University, Grand Canyon University, and the like. I'm hoping through CSU I get some additional resources / exposure in the field to prepare me for post-grad, but the cost is something I was worried about. Definitely will be taking out loans, but was also curious about if it'd be worth it considering for other programs / fields, most people say "The school doesn't matter" and things of that sort, lol.
> Capella, William James College, Chicago School of Professional Psychology, Southern New Hampshire University, Grand Canyon University, and the like. I wouldn't recommend going to any of these schools. Purdue is the only potentially viable option in the list that you provided; they have a respected residential / "brick & mortar" I/O program, although Purdue Global programs are somewhat variable in quality. I do think that you would have better education from the faculty at CSU. If you take an average cost of $30K for a Master's degree, the 20% discount that you're getting from partner institutions is probably worth somewhere in the ballpark of $6K. I know this is a privileged assertion, but that's a trivial amount of money across the span of a successful career. I would personally go to the better school, especially if your income will let you keep to minimal or low-interest student loans.
Hi everyone, I’m graduating soon and plan on taking a gap year or two before grad school. I’m interested in doing some sort of research about South Asians in the work place. I was wondering if anyone knows about any programs that’s have research labs that are focused on Asian communities?
I'd recommend that you focus more broadly on faculty/labs that are interested in diversity and inclusion. Most folks working in that area will be receptive to projects that focus on any particular underrepresented group. South Asians are generally neglected in Psychology research, and especially in I/O -- there's a lot of important work to be done here given that research on East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) Americans rarely generalizes to South Asian Americans.
Morning Fellowes! I’m a recent graduate from University of Minnesota and I’m looking forward to a master program in io psych before I apply to a doctoral program. I’m applying to a master program first because I don’t think my GPA is strong enough (GPA3.71, Major GPA3.75) and I don’t have a lot of research experience, despite the fact that I served as a board member for the undergraduate psych journal and recently, I published my co-authored journal on campus. I wonder what master programs do any recommend based on my ultimate goal of getting a PhD? I was thinking about GMU and I’m open to other programs as well thanks
Western Kentucky University has a strong IO master's program! Many alumni from there, myself included, have gotten into PhD programs after graduating!
Thank you for your reply. I check on the program and it’s truly a sturdy program. I wonder if you could share your experience at WKU in terms of research, internships, etc. Furthermore, how does the program help you achieve your PhD? Thx
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I have gotten admission in Ms IO Psychology at Anna Maria College. Am I making a right decision investing my money in this institution?
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Hi there! I’m currently a student enrolled at FIU (online) who’s about to finish their BA in Psych. I was looking at online graduate school options for online in I/O psych. I so far was thinking SNHU, but after going through the thread i didn’t see it get brought up once as an accredited college. I chose SNHU due to the finances, it’s known to be good for saving money but I wanted to know if there was something wrong with that college or if there’s anything i should look for? I saw in the thread to look at Colorado State, George Mason, or Purdue first. Now that i’ve seen that i’m going to look into those before applying. My GPA has been pretty good Im at a 3.8 currently.
So i actually just checked and it looks like SNHU is accredited by the NECHE
It's less an issue with accreditation and more one of program quality. It's not hard for an institution to get accredited by *somebody.* Regardless, SNHU has a "degree mill" reputation, so people within the I/O community are going to view a Master's from them with skepticism. (Your courses will be taught by rock-bottom faculty working at piecemeal adjunct rates.) Go to an established university, whether online or in-person, instead of SNHU or any other online-only/for-profit program.
Thank you for the help! I would’ve never known honestly. How do you find out if other programs have a “degree mill” reputation? I’ve never even heard of the term.
You typically want to avoid for-profit, 100% online institutions, like SNHU, Capella, Western Governors, and University of Phoenix. These universities have financial incentives to accept almost any student who applies, so the quality of the education that you receive is weak. They also pay their faculty dismal, piecemeal wages, which means that most people teaching courses aren't talented or knowledgeable in I/O -- if they were, then they wouldn't be working for peanuts given the ease of finding good income in our field. (Most of the faculty teaching at schools like this have training in adjacent areas, like social or counseling psychology.)
Thank you for the help as well! I looked on google and was misled because it said it was a non-profit. Is it just private schools that are for profit? or is it just those schools specifically?
Private schools can be for-profit or non-profit. What you want to especially avoid are schools that are both 100% online and also for-profit. I can't think of a single reputable institution with that profile. Moving from that category, also try to pass on 100% online and non-profit institutions. They aren't nakedly exploitative, but they're plagued by the training/quality issues that I mentioned.
Thank you for the help!
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Hi all - I'm considering applying for admission to an IO Psych program. I'm Orlando based and earning my part time MBA from UCF, earned my Bach in international studies from there as well. I don't have stellar grades since I've always needed to be a working student (was also low income during UG) but my Bach gpa is 2.95 and current MBA is 3.22. I have 3 courses left for my MBA I'm going to try my best to ace to potentially raise it to a 3.4/3.5. I don't want to stay in Orlando despite our IO Psych program being amazing, looking to relocate to DC if possible. I spoke to the former dean of the IO Psych program (I worked in grad admissions at my school and she was very happy to have an informational interview) and she suggested I earn another degree before pursuing IO Psych. I went for the MBA because it gives me more mobility. I am considering Product Management within big tech post grad but recently got placed with a DEI mentor for a program I applied to and am not sure which way to go - lots of programs won't admit me because of my GPA, my GRE was a 292 combined and 4.0 Writing. (First attempt, need to retest) I like the concept of research but don't really know what it entails and no one at UCF seems interested in adopting a working MBA grad student to volunteer within their groups 🥲 so no research experience. I've used R in my courses so am familiar with statistical modeling but again I don't really have research experience aside from an undergraduate research project I did within our university's humanist office that got super sidelined with a scandal that occurred. Do I make a worthy admit if I can land some research experience and raise my GRE/GPA? I'm mostly interested in employee workplace satisfaction and organizational behavior research. Would even like to focus on academia itself given how long I've worked within it. GMU seems solid but a lot of programs are asking for papers and research experience, which I don't have. Help! I'm going to look into applying to grad schools come fall for next year admittance.
I am a junior with a 4.0, and I am transferring due to the high cost of college. Would finishing my degree online hurt my chances of getting into grad school?
It depends on what institution is conferring your Bachelor's. It will quite likely hurt your standing for jobs and grad school if you're going for an online-only or for-profit option, like Grand Canyon or University of Phoenix. These institutions are pretty much synonymous with weak education and purchased credentials, and no one will see that 3/4 of your education was elsewhere because they won't get past your graduating institution. Your odds are better if you're transferring to something like Purdue University Online because the reputation of the brick & mortar university helps offset the stigma of the online degree. The other variable to consider is whether or not you've got the experiences and coursework necessary to be a credible applicant. If you don't yet have research, internships, social or I/O coursework, and other experiences that are key for admission to good I/O grad programs, then you're in trouble because you probably aren't getting those things through an online provider.
Thank you so much for the detailed response. I'm looking at Arizona State University or Pennsylvania State University. Do you think it's possible to get internships and research experience while in online school?
Internships could be possible depending on your geographic location, resources, and work history. You aren't going to get any kind of meaningful help from an online Bachelor's program to land internships, but you might be able to source one on your own. Research, on the other hand, is extremely unlikely. You might get lucky if you're located close to a different college of university where they would allow you to volunteer, but most institutions don't have much need or incentive to get outside students involved in research.
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I'd lean toward CSUSB or Hartford, which I'd place as roughly comparable. I've never met a UWF grad and the location of the campus is pretty bad with respect to finding meaningful I/O internships/work.
Hi! Looking for some thoughts and advice as I am looking to make a switch from my current career in marketing to IO psych. A little bit of background on me - I’ve been working in marketing for 4 years and have a bachelor degree in brand management and marketing. I’ve had A LOT of experience working directly in customer experience, journey mapping, project management, campaign management, etc. I have found myself a bit burnt out - craving to work more closely with people and am extremely passionate about employee experience - I've been researching possible career paths, which has led me to IO psych. my question is - if my degree isn’t in psych, and I have basically no “real” experience in it (except for some slight consumer research / purchasing behavior), am I going to find myself struggling to get accepted into a competitive MS IO Psych program? I am looking specifically at online programs since I can’t move right now - George Mason, Purdue, austin peay, auburn.. Would love any thoughts or advice!
You might need some Psych coursework to apply to certain programs, but otherwise you're probably fine. Your essay will need to do the work of explaining this career shift, so put some time into honing your statement.
Anyone heard back from CSU distance program?
Did anyone hear back from Old Dominion or Portland state on the status of their application for the PhD?
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Oh! I've had no updates. I wonder if they just haven't sent out the rejections yet?
Oh! I've had no updates. I wonder if they just haven't sent out the rejections yet?
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Thank you!
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No worries! I have not received a reply. So maybe they offered that last spot to someone else?
Hi everyone! I’m struggling to make a decision for graduate school and am hoping someone could provide a little bit of insight for some of these programs. So far I have been admitted into the Master’s programs at Illinois Institute of Technology, Saint Cloud, and San Jose State. I also applied to to university of Maryland Baltimore county and am fairly confident I will be admitted based on the other schools that have. I’ve obviously done my research on each of these schools but am wondering if people in the field know anything deeper about the reputation of any of these programs. Also probably important to mention- Saint Cloud is by far my cheapest option and going there would guarantee coming out of grad school debt free.
I can only speak on UMBC, but in Maryland, it's generally considered more mediocre in comparison to UMD at least
You'll get better training at IIT or SJS than you will at St. Cloud. (St. Cloud isn't a bad program, but the faculty and curriculum just aren't as strong.) That said, free is a pretty compelling argument vs student loans at current rates...could you live close enough to Minneapolis to commute for likely internship opportunities?
I currently live in Minneapolis as I did my undergrad at the University of Minnesota. If I attend Saint Cloud I was planning on commuting for class every day since it’s only about an hour drive there. Thanks for the reply, by the way.
BARUCH VS HOFSTRA?? i have been accepted to both baruch and hotstra and wanted to know if anyone had insight on which i should attend. baruch would be about 23k and hofstra would be about 65k, so there is a large difference in cost. however, i have read that hofstra is extremely well connected and places students in prestigious internships. is it worth going to hofstra for the large price tag for the internship connections it provides? or is baruch equally as connected and helpful in internship placements? are they both considered the same level of prestige in the 10 psych world? thank you!
I do believe NYC is robust in its IO network and it’s likely that both would yield fruitful opportunities. However, Hofstra does place well upon graduation - with graduates accepting positions at respected consulting (e.g, McKinsey, all Big4, YSC/Accenture, BTS), industry (e.g., PepsiCo, Northwell Health, Walt Disney Company, JetBlue), and government organizations (e.g., MTA, NYC Citywide Administrative Services).
Absolutely no reason to pay Hofstra tuition. They aren't especially plugged into internship opportunities, certainly not more so than Baruch. Both benefit from NYC metro proximity.
Always go to the public school, you don't want to get in debt. As long as you maximize your opportunities given and make the most out of your experience you should be fine. If internship placements concern you that much I would network with current students in the Baruch program and ask them. Also, look into the curriculum required to complete the degree. Are the courses available at each university interest you more than the other?
Hiii, I just got my acceptance letter for baruchs ms program and I was wondering if anyone who is attending or attended that program could tell me if you got your financial aid package with your acceptance letter or after you accepted your admission?
i also got in but didn’t get financial aid package
Is anyone else still waiting? I haven't heard back yet!
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Currently looking at George Mason University and UTC for Masters programs. I'm from Georgia, meaning I can get in-state tuition at UTC due to the ACM. I would also prefer to stay closer to home. However, looking through the thread makes me worried about not being able to find nearby job or internship opportunities. Any advice? Also open to recommendations for other programs.
If your GRE is strong and you're interested in PhD, you've got UGA and Georgia Tech closer to home -- both house historically strong I/O programs, and Atlanta is a growing I/O hub with good work opportunities. To the Master's programs, Chattanooga just doesn't afford you a lot of work opportunities in I/O. Even Memphis, your "close" big city (of 1+ hours one-way), doesn't have a lot of I/O activity. You have to look at the full picture of money, life satisfaction, and cultural fit before you make your ultimate decision, but GMU has a healthy advantage on the limited basis of academic rigor and internship/job convenience.
Additionally, do I have a chance at getting into programs straight out of undergrad? I attend a small, but well-ranked, liberal arts college as a psychology major with a 3.85 GPA. I have research experience, but it is towards the clinical psychology side because that was more of my concentration for most of college. No GRE (yet), taken psychological statistics with R that also had a lab component. Few relevant classes otherwise besides general psychology major classes and a calculus course. I did struggle some in calculus, but I pulled an A- and did very well in my stats course. Most of my worry is that if I go through with applying, I'll be making a pretty sharp turn as most of my experience in the past has been focused on me trying to get a Clinical Psych Ph.D., but now I'm considering switching because it's a hard field to get into and I'm worried about opportunities. I come from a low-income background, so I'm definitely worried about paying for grad school and having debt, so I really want what I do to be worth it.
Without knowing your GRE scores or other application components, you sound very similar to me as an applicant and I got into all the programs I applied to (including both GMU and UTC). It’s worth considering that in addition to ACM, UTC also gives a lot more opportunities to defray costs through graduate assistantships. A lot of GMU students do land really nicely paid internships given school connections and DC as a great IO location, but you’ll almost certainly be paying a lot more upfront
Hi! I was hoping to find out a little more about TAMU’s masters program. Any details about the rankings, faculty, alumni experience, job opportunities, and focus on research vs practice would be great.
Hey all,I have a lot to decide in the next two weeks. I got accepted to a good handful of programs. Between Masters and PhD programs, between Masters programs with full tuition waivers and without any guaranteed funding, and considering fit with faculty and cost of living on top of it all. I'm rather overwhelmed. Does anyone have advice on what factors are most crucial overall to consider, or anything else I should think about in making this decision?For some background, I'm primarily interested in industry at the moment, but I'm not completely ruling out the possibility of going into academia at a later time. I'm also not ruling out government work, which I've heard may require a PhD (not entirely sure if this is true or not). I'm really interested in some more O-sided topics, but I want a program that will help me hone the right skills and knowledge to be competent in solving organizational problems. Below are some considerations I'm weighing: 1. Masters or PhD (or mobility into PhD from Masters, if a Masters program) 2. Funding/lack thereof - partial/full assistantships, not yet determined or no funding; as well as tuition cost 3. Fit with faculty/interests 4. Thesis requirement/practicum requirement 5. Area cost of living 6. Area opportunities 7. Program reputation 8. Statistical software primarily used/taught (R as opposed to SPSS, etc.)
They other person gave a lot of good info. If you want to, you can message me directly to talk more specifically. I personally don lil Putin my acceptances out in public which is why I am offering something more private. Regardless, it seems to me you should go the PhD route. They generally are funded with a stipend and you can generally master out if you do not wish to finish. PhDs are also going to have much more job availability. Since you have said that you haven’t completely ruled out academia or government work, I would say do the PhD because that’s more of a requirement for those.
Thanks for the thoughts! I definitely agree there may be more job opportunities and funding would be more guaranteed. A lot of the masters programs I applied to have actually offered me full assistantships, though, so I do still have that as a consideration as well! Thanks for offering to talk. If you don't mind me asking, what is your experience in I/O (e.g. are you a student, in academia, in industry, etc.)? Thanks a bunch.
Sorry for the late response. I’m an entering IO PhD student.
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I second u/Ill-Manufacturer7057! IMO, funding is definitely on the top of the list. If the program is decent, I will go to the one that gives guaranteed funding. Remaining ranking for a Master's only program: program reputation (prefer the one with good alumni network) > practicum requirement (or can pick one between practicum vs thesis or do both; I did both options) tied with area opportunities (important if you want to stay in the area, could trade with alumni network) > area cost of living > statistical software (could self learn) > fit with faculty/interests (IMO it doesn't really impact that much if you are going to industry) More things to consider: When I was applying for grad school, I only applied for Master's programs. When I decided to get a PhD, it got complicated. I had to consider between traditional (i.e., start over) or the program that would accept my Master's credits without having to retake the IO courses. I was able to transfer my Master's credits over as electives, but I have to retake the core IO courses). If you don't mind starting over like me, you are most likely to spend an additional 2 years in grad school. Looking back, I didn't regret my decision. Having a Master's degree (I learned theories during my Master's instead of directly jumping to read articles without having the foundation) prepared me well for a PhD program, especially trying to digest journal articles. I also didn't have to redo my thesis (it varies depending on the program).
Thank you (both) for your insights/advice! I've definitely heard from quite a few people that I should just go for the PhD and "master out" if I'm not feeling it. The only issue is that I really feel like it's almost more likely that I *would* "master out" rather than stay. For that reason going for the PhD almost feels dishonest, like I would be living a lie the entire time. I applied initially because I honestly didn't think I would get in and hadn't yet been fully informed on everything it would entail. Following the interview I became a lot less certain of how much I want it. I don't think I'll know whether I want to get a PhD until after I've gone through the process of getting my Masters. I've also heard from people who chose to just get their Masters or to get their Masters and then apply to PhD programs, that they didn't regret their decision to do so. So I think I may be at the crossroads of not really wanting to do a PhD but dreading the regret of turning down such an opportunity.
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Yeah, I know that completing coursework again would be part of going back for a PhD, and that's a big part of my fears. Thanks for validating my thoughts, it's awesome that you decided to stick with it in your case!
Hey everyone, like many others, I'm debating between schools. I'm stuck between a master's at George Mason or San Francisco State University. I know they both are reputable programs and got great locations for job/networking opportunities. I do prefer GM a bit more because of the faculty's research interests and its doctoral program. I'm trying to keep Ph.D. as an open option, but I'm also thinking the faculty's research interests might not weigh in as much for a master's. I will also be out-of-state and in comparison, George Mason will be on the pricier end, but doable. I guess it really boils down to whether GM's program/faculty is worth the extra tuition (\~20k-35k, depending on whether I get in-state tuition). Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
Both are really solid from an internship/work perspective. The location and faculty are equally good in that respect. (SFSU has a smaller faculty, but lots of them are deeply embedded as consultants in the practitioner community, so I don't think you would be disadvantaged in terms of access.) However, if PhD is a real possibility for you, then that should tilt you toward GMU. In the CSU system, San Diego & Long Beach are the two Master's programs that have a better track record of sending people on to doctoral study. SFSU, in contrast, is really geared toward the terminal Master's student.
Thank you! In addition, do you think the two schools have a similar quality curriculum?
They're both acceptable, but you'll get more quant training at GMU. That's increasingly valuable to your job prospects.
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Hey! I can talk to you a little about Baruch (I was also accepted and have talked with them extensively). I will say that in terms of overall practical skills and networking, Baruch likely has one o the best opportunities for IO industry. To talk a bit mor in-depth you can direct message me.
would i be able to message you to? just got into baruch and am wondering if they have good connections for internships and jobs / if they help you get them
I'm at Baruch rn and they have an internal job board where they post about lots of I/O opportunities! We also have a big group chat for everyone in the program, where people sometimes mention openings at their company
I just saw the post you made about it. I would like to let you know that I was accepted as a PhD student, so it is likely a different experience. I can try to tag you in some things that may help in the mega thread.
In no particular order, a few issues to consider: * Baruch is *much* slower to graduate students than Akron. * Baruch has much more convenient placement for internships and jobs than Akron. * Cost of living at Baruch is atrocious given NYC, whereas Akron is pretty dang cheap. * Both have recently lost faculty, but Baruch has been able to hire more replacements than Akron. IMO, the senior faculty at Akron are better and more reliable, but the junior faculty at Baruch have real promise (if they get tenure and choose to stay). Akron is financially in worse straits than CUNY and hasn't been able to hire at the rate that they ideally would.
Has anyone heard back from Georgia Tech, Clemson, or Virginia Tech on the PhD program?
I heard back from Virginia tech
Trying to see if it's worth it to apply to PhD programs without retaking the GRE. I got 162V, 152Q, and 4 AWA. Do decent scores in other areas help offset the lower Q score? All other application materials are reasonably impressive.
It's hard to judge those scores in the absence of more info about your holistic qualifications, but your quant score is pretty soft. That would be a turn-off for a lot of prospective advisors, particularly given that first-round cuts are oftentimes based on numbers rather than qualitative aspects of your portfolio (essays, letters, etc). I'd think seriously about a reattempt, especially if your prep for the first try wasn't very serious.
Hello! I'm planning to apply for IO psych PhD programs this Fall. I've done a lot of research on it, but thought I'd get some genuine opinions from people currently in the field. Which IO psych program are generally considered top tier, that have a great reputation in both academia and industry? Thanks in advance!
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Has anyone attended the MSOP program at Univ of Hartford? Unfortunately there aren’t any in person local programs so I need to find something 100% online
If you're going online, I'd look at Colorado State, George Mason, or Purdue first. Those are programs with established, respected in-person options, so the alumni network and reputation within the I/O community are better. Hartford is fine, but they're not as strong of a program either in-person or online.
Hey! Not the original commenter, but do you know anything about Eastern Kentucky University? I'm applying for their online MS program and haven't seen much about them on this sub!
Their curriculum is fine, but they don't have the same level of name recognition as the three that I listed. EKU was always a small, regional program that didn't have much presence before they moved fully online a few years ago. Given that you can pursue an online degree from a growing number of competing programs, I'd focus on ones that have a stronger reputation in the field.
This is helpful :) thank you so much!
Much appreciated, thank you!!
Hi everyone! I'm making my final decision for schools and I'm in a bit of a bind. The schools I'm choosing between are master's programs at George Mason, university of Tennessee at Chattanooga and university of New Haven. Based on my calculations, New Haven is coming out to be the cheapest followed by UTC and George Mason being around the same. I'm leaning towards George Mason but wondering if the extra cost is worth it? (About $14000 more than New Haven) I also wanted to mention that I really liked the program culture at UTC but also really like the strong training and abundance of opportunities at George Mason but I'm worried about the cost of living. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks! :)
I know that this a bonkers privileged thing to say, but: if it gets your career off to a stronger start with better, higher-paying jobs, then $14k is nothing over the span of your career. I wouldn't let that difference dissuade you if everything else about George Mason felt like a good fit. (UTC has a great culture, but it's just not proximal enough to I/O hubs to put you in anything but stock HR jobs.)
I was thinking along those lines as well. Thank you so much, this was very reassuring!
Hi everyone! Like many others I am also having some trouble deciding between schools, if anyone could provide some insight. Right now my top choice is between George Mason and Minnesota State Mankato. I really like the program culture at Mankato from the grad students I’ve talked to so far, but George Mason’s proximity to DC might provide better internship opportunities? I am a Californian so they would both be out-of-state for me, but I have a partial waiver for GM.
George Mason, no question. Mankato has a nice culture, but it's over an hour from a large city (Minneapolis) and simply can't offer you the kinds of work experience that you'll get outside of DC at George Mason.
Thanks!
From what I've heard, George Mason has incredible internship opportunities, great faculty, and great connections. You having a partial waiver for GM seems like a huge plus too!
Thanks! 😌
has anyone heard back from NYU masters program?
has anyone heard back from baruch masters program /know when we will start to hear back?
Not sure, but Baruch is historically one of the last schools to send out acceptances, so I wouldn't read too much into it.
even for their masters program? they gave me no info regarding the timeline of hearing back so i’m kind of worried
Yes, I was referring to their Master's program specifically. In the meantime, reach out to the graduate school to inquire about the status of your application if you're worried. They may be able to provide a timeline or let you know if you're waitlisted.
thank you! the app deadline was march 15, do you know when they’ve sent out acceptances in the past?
As late as early April, as I recall.
Like some other commentors I am having a hard time choosing between master's programs: I've been accepted to St. Cloud State and Appalachian State. I also had an interview at Minnesota State Mankato but I haven't heard back from them yet. I've heard a lot about App State, they're high on the SIOP rankings, and I've also had a great experience with them so far. The problem is, I would be paying out-of-state tuition which could end up being tens of thousands more than my other acceptance at St. Cloud (where I would have almost free tuition in the first year) Is it worth paying that much more for a seemingly better program? St. Cloud doesn't seem bad by any means but I'm worried solely because I don't know much - they don't offer a lot of information. Obviously Mankato looks great but I'm am unsure if I'll get any funding let alone get accepted at all at this point!
Do you intend to live in Minnesota after grad school? If so, don't discount the networking value of being there with others who are likely to also stay in the area, getting involved with MPPAW, local internships and connections, etc. Also remember that your employers will be varied in their knowledge of reputable I/O programs. Other I/Os may know that App State is great, but if general HR folks are looking at your resume, they may never have heard of it. That being said, I don't know much about St. Cloud either. Definitely ask if you can talk to some students and get more info on alumni placement/experiences.
Thank you for your response! I would definitely like to live in Minnesota afterwards, so that's a great point. You're right, I think I got caught up in the whole application process and learning about the I/O world that I forgot that not everybody would even know/care where I went as long as I know what I'm doing. I'll have to see if I can find some students who can attest to that part!
Hi all, I'm trying to narrow down my decisions for grad school (grateful to have so many choices!). I have a program that is a bit lesser known that is offering me an assistantship with a full tuition waiver, and some that are more known to be good programs but haven't gotten back to me on assistantships yet. The program offering me a waiver could also allow me to continue onto a PhD if I'm interested. In your experience, what's the importance of prestige for Masters programs--would it be more worthwhile to potentially have to pay for tuition at a better program?
Speaking from my personal experience (a brief background: I went to a mid-tier Master's program where most of my cohort went to the industry after they graduated. I was able to get into several PhD programs), this really depends on your end goal. Several important things to consider as you narrow down your decisions. Are you planning to go applied after getting your Master's or continue onto a PhD? This could totally influence your choice! If you plan to go applied, you need to consider the strength of the program's alum network (i.e., strong). Do the internships/ job opportunities come from the alum network? Could you get a job/internship locally or have to relocate? What is the program structure/coursework? Focusing more on applied/ research/ both? How many core I-O faculty are currently in the program, and how supportive are they to the current students? Is there a balance between the I-side and the O-side, or is it heavy on the O-side? If you plan to pursue a PhD, does this program train you in research excellence (e.g., has the opportunity to be involved in research, collect data, analyze results)? Is the thesis required (obviously might not be helpful for those who want to go applied) or optional? It is also important to talk to the current students about their experience (e.g., internship search, supportive faculty, types of projects they work on for their classes, etc.). Happy to chat if you have additional questions!
Wow, these are all really helpful considerations, thank you! I'm in a bit of a pickle with some of these because I don't yet know whether I'll want to continue onto a PhD or not--this makes everything a bit more complex, because I decided to apply to one PhD that I got into, and another school whose MA I applied to offered me a PhD track as well. Knowing some things to consider from someone who's made it out the other side is very helpful, though, so thank you for your insights! If you have any opinions about programs as someone in the field, I'd certainly be interested in picking your brain, but if not, I understand!
No problem! Happy to help! It's always good to keep the options open, and yeah, honestly, I didn't know that I wanted to continue onto a PhD when I started my Master's. For sure, feel free to DM me if you have additional questions. Happy to chat!
Hi everyone! I’ve done my own research but I’m wondering if anyone could offer insight into the relative value of a Master’s from: - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga - Middle Tennessee State University - George Mason I want to keep my options open for pursuing a PhD after grad school if I decide to during my Master’s program. I also haven’t heard back yet about financial aid, which is a significant factor for me. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
George Mason would be significantly better in terms of local work opportunities in NoVA *and* for possible transition to a PhD later.
Hi! I was wondering if anyone has any information/insight on the University of New Haven's Master's in I/O psych program? Thank you!
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Hi! I can’t add anything personally, but there are a few messages down a bit in this thread mentioning UHCL if you haven’t already read those
I have, but thank you!
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Program culture at UTC is good (hence the strong SIOP ratings), but it's a very suboptimal location for convenient internship and work opportunities in I/O. That alone would tip me toward UTA, but I also like what UTA is doing with their quant classes by pushing Master's students toward R instead of SPSS. All things considered, I'd nudge you toward UTA. That said, it sounds like visa support is important to you -- I assume that you're applying from outside of the US? If so, that factor may override all other considerations given that STEM-designated programs will make your life much, much easier.
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Never rely on the word of what people say will happen in the future. It's something that you have no control over and, ultimately, they have very little control over too. Something could happen at the university/administrative level that no one in the department has any power to influence.
Agreed!!
Hi! I am a local Texan trying to narrow down my In-state options for I/O masters programs. I am trying to decide between the University of Texas at Arlington and University of Houston Clear Lake programs. If anyone has any input, knowledge, or advice on either I would greatly appreciate it!!
They're fairly comparable mid-tier programs. For substantive differences, Clearlake has a larger dedicated I/O faculty, but UTA is teaching a better quantitative core with R/Python coursework. As a local, I'd be thinking about proximity for jobs -- if you have a strong preference for starting your career in Houston vs. DFW, then that should guide your decision. (You'll be most plugged into the local network of whatever city you choose for grad school, so the path of least resistance to your first full-time job is oftentimes in the same region.)
Any thoughts on Virginia Tech’s PhD program? They aren’t listed on any rankings
They're a program in transition. They have some excellent senior faculty who are moving toward retirement, and they've hired a handful of promising junior faculty who will hopefully remain with the program and be successful. However, this kind of moment is fraught for any grad program; you don't know how the program culture will change, or if the Assistant Prof cohort that they've hired will be successful and opt to remain. I'd generally rate VT as a decent-to-good PhD program, but there are open questions for them given the program timing.
Does anyone have information they can give me on these I/O Masters programs? -University of Houston-Clearlake -Salem State University -Missouri State University
None of these are what I'd consider to be top / strong programs, but I'd actually rank them in the order that you listed. Clearlake has a solid curriculum, a small-but-dedicated I/O faculty, and a decent metro job market -- it hits all of my minimums to be an acceptable recommendation to a student. It's less clear who would be teaching your classes at Salem and MO State, which is always a red flag for me. However, Salem has a good curriculum and is is at least close-ish to Boston with lots of internship and job opportunities. Far last place to me would be MO State, which has an org-heavy curriculum with less emphasis on quant skills, and is in a lousy geographic position for offering you convenient I/O work.
Does anyone have info on the PhD program at Florida Institute of Technology? I got accepted, but I have yet to hear back from 3 schools and am waitlisted at my top 2, so I wanted to see if anyone had any info.
I think the academics are fine / comfortably mid-tier, but their major knock is the very minimal amount of funding that they provide to students. You aren't getting a full tuition waiver at FIT like you would at most other schools, so you're taking on much more debt for the degree.
Has anyone ever experienced Montclair State University's PhD program with data science specialization? I am very curious about it.
The design of the program curriculum is very good and the location is great for internship opportunities (albeit with a higher COL than many other programs as a consequence). They've also clearly got institutional support given the amount of hiring that they've performed. The only caution points are that it's a new program without a record of placement outcomes to evaluate, and their faculty is very heavy on Assistant Professors. (Working with a newer faculty advisor can be just fine, but there's a heightened risk that they won't stay at MSU relative to someone with tenure and seniority.)
Solid program. New and are building a good faculty.
Has anyone had or have an interview with University of Tennessee at Chattanooga?
Has anyone heard back from George Mason's master's program?
Have you guys heard back yet?
Took a while, but I just heard back this morning (3/30).
Yeah I heard back last friday
Gotcha, thanks
I still haven’t heard back
Also still waiting...
Ahh okay I was starting to wonder if they ghosted me because it's been a while 😅
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What are my chances of getting into Akron's master's program? \-3.92 gpa, majorgpa 4.00 \-I'll have a year and a half of research experience in two different labs. One is clinical personality research and the other is social personality research. No thesis or presentations, unfortunately. \-3 letter of rec. 1 from a stats teacher that I built a little bit of rapport with, and the other two are from my two labs which should net me solid recommendations. \-Studying to take the GRE online in mid to late May. \-Taught myself a little R and python for data analytics. \-And I'm having some graduate students and one of my professors look at my personal statement and CV currently. I'll be applying to about 8 programs in total but Akron's really my ideal choice. Because it aligns with my interests and allows me to stay near family/built connections near family. What do you all think my chances are?
You're quite safe on a credentials basis. The wildcard is the cohort size that Akron will accept. Like a lot of programs that offer both a PhD and a terminal MA, the MA cohort size and level of financial support depends on what happens at the PhD level. There are some years when they don't take MA students at all, or they only take 1-2 people. I'd recommend reaching out to inquire about their recruiting goals for this year, if you haven't already.
Thanks for the advise! I will reach out and inquire about recruiting goals.
Hi everyone, posting again here. Does anyone have experience with or thoughts on the University of Limerick Master of Work and Organisational Psychology/Behaviour program? Specifically on the quality of the program and job prospects back in North America? I’d really appreciate any info and thanks in advance!
I've never met a Limerick grad in the US, and I think the non-response to this question maybe speaks to the scarcity of their alumni in North America. (I literally don't have any pre-existing beliefs about the program because I didn't know that they have one.) Wish I could be more helpful, but maybe this reply will bump you for visibility to get more eyes on your question.
Appreciate the response and potential bump!
Is U of Maryland MPIO considered a STEM program? I know io is a stem major. On their international students admission page it stated the program is not, however it is listed on the general UMD STEM program list. I’m confused.
Reach out to the Graduate School at UMD (not the I/O program). They will know how the program is categorized: https://gradschool.umd.edu/
Hi! I am wondering if anyone knows any good IO Master's Programs in the UK, preferably in London. Also considering an MA in Business Management/Analytics. Does anyone have any experience doing IO in the UK? Any advice would be great :) thanks!
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IIT would be the only program on your list that I'd weigh against UTA. IIT has a strong reputation for practitioner training and its location in Chicago puts you in a better market for I/O work than DFW. You've got a solid option in the bag, so just run down the clock in the meantime and see what other offers come in -- don't let anyone rush you in advance of the deadline.
Hi All, I am working on a survey for my I/O Psychology Capstone class and would appreciate if you could take some time to answer it. No worries if not as participation is purely voluntary. At the end are DOI information on peer-reviewed journals related to the topic: Employed US- based adults aged between 18 and 75 are needed for research examining perceptions of organizational support and job satisfaction. As part of the study, you will be asked to complete three questionnaires. The time required for participation is no more than 10 minutes. All of the survey materials can be completed from your computer, smart phone, or tablet. Please do not hesitate to share the instructions and link with your colleagues. It would be much appreciated. Link: https://forms.gle/FJ4apEVzf7YG8WKb9
I have an interview for San Diego State (I/O masters program) tomorrow and have no idea how to prepare. Has anyone had an interview, and if yes what did they ask you?
I have only interviewed for PhD programs and not specifically for San Diego but here are some questions I have been asked and some advice: - Why IO? - Why do you want a masters/PhD? - Why THIS program? - Tell me about your research. - What’s something interesting you found in your research? - How would your professors/advisor/lab-mates describe you? - Strengths and weaknesses. - Do you have any questions for me? (Prepare several) Basically standard interview questions. I would write bullet points on what you want to hit for each questions and then practice with a friend or career services if you have access to your undergrads. You don’t want to sound rehearsed but it’s good to practice. Be professional, be yourself, and remember that you are also interviewing the school to see if it’s a good fit. Good luck (:
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Both are adequate programs with very, very expensive tuition that is hard to justify. You're not going to receive poor training at either school, but it's hard to make peace with their cost when you have far cheaper options like Montclair State and Baruch within a few miles. (Columbia is the only NYC metro school that I feel offers actively bad training.) If you're really set on one of the two, then a few things to consider. First, Hofstra has a better set of full-time I/O faculty, whereas NYU relies more on practitioner adjuncts and full-time faculty from social, counseling, and adjacent areas of psych. I would rate the Hofstra faculty higher on reliability and expertise. However, second, NYU generally benefits from better institutional prestige, and they have a tighter network of internship opportunities as a consequence. I've sent several students to NYU over the years who were either independently wealthy or who caught exceptional scholarship opportunities. In all cases, they landed really impressive internships within the first two semesters. You could probably get those kinds of internships elsewhere in NYC metro by being a standout student with gumption, but the NYU affiliation does seem to grease the tracks.
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Hi All, Does anyone have thoughts/opinions on the following Masters programs in I/O? I'm curious about their reputations in the I/O community and what all folks have heard about these programs. Thanks! \-University of Nebraska Omaha \-Hofstra University \-University of Central Florida \-Southern Illinois University Edwardsville \-Montclair University \-Old Dominion University
SIU is the weakest program on that list and Hofstra is bonkers expensive without sufficient program value to justify it. Those would be my bottom two. ODU and UNO are good programs but in suboptimal locations for internship/work, so those would be the middle tier. Montclair State U and UCF are good programs in larger metro markets (Montclair especially), so those are probably your top two from the list. None of these are terrible programs of the "do not apply no matter what" variety, but there definitely is a gradient of quality/value in the set to consider.
Hey I was wondering if you could do the same for me. I have applied to these five PhD programs (I've been accepted into three of them): Rice University Colorado State University Baruch College CUNY Florida Institute of Technology Old Dominion University
have you heard back from baruch? the app deadline was only 5 days ago :(3/15)
Again, this is just one asshole's opinion, but IMO: Rice is the standout in your list, followed by Baruch, and then the rest. (1) Rice: A strong and growing program with some excellent faculty across all career stages, and Rice U has really good PhD stipends for students (not good in *absolute* salary terms, but relatively among the highest that you'll see for doctoral stipends). Not a historically ranked program in the field, but they're doing everything right to become one. (2) CSU: Was strong in the 80s-90s, but has been struggling for 20+ years with faculty losses and an inability to rebuild that I don't understand. They have some good junior people now, but a program staffed almost entirely with pre-tenure, junior faculty is a risky proposition. (3) Baruch: A reliable mid-tier program with some strong people and great local internship opportunities for students targeting industry. However, they have also struggled to retain some of their recent hires of talented junior faculty, probably due to cost of living, and they're notoriously slower at graduating students than most programs. You have to be proactive to thrive there. (4) FIT: Most expensive due to modest/unpredictable funding of students, rather than a fixed tuition waiver like you'll see elsewhere on your list. Good culture and people that I genuinely like, but not a lot of real program assets to compensate for the cost of education. This would be my least preferable option on your list unless you're independently wealthy. (5) ODU: An emerging program with less certain prospects. They have some excellent junior faculty, but ODU is turning into a bit of a springboard for new academic I/Os to get established before bouncing to better programs. I'd be worried about retention, and I would recommend that you remain open to the prospect of relocating to follow your advisor if they leave. (This is worth considering for any Assistant Prof advisor.)
Thank you for this. It’s hard for me because I go to a small university with no I/O presence (even the professor who teaches I/O psych has a counseling psych degree). I wish I had someone who I could go over my current acceptances with based specifically on my goals. I will say one of the most important aspects of a program for me is research.
You'll do research in any of these programs, but you'd have the chance to work with the greatest number of stronger/established scholars at Rice versus any other program on your list.
Hey! I’m trying to help someone with their choice. Do you know anything about the Eramus masters in work, organizational, and personnel psychology?
It's a very well respected program in Europe with good job placement outcomes and a record of students who have later transitioned to PhD. However, much depends on where you want to work and live -- it's not an easy degree to bring back to the US, for example, and it's tough to break into corporate jobs in the Netherlands without some proficiency in Dutch.
That's helpful, thanks! I forgot to add one to the list--do you have any particular thoughts on Central Michigan U?
I'd put it in the middle tier of your list. Program.has a good reputation, but similarly tough location for nearby work opportunities.
OK, thank you!
If a Master’s program doesn’t specify how long the SOP is supposed to be, am I safe in assuming around 800 words?
Yes, figure about 2-3 double-spaced pages as a max limit in the absence of any guidance.
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