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mauro_oruam

tech department and working at an MSP are not remotely related at all. take the job offer.


37Lions

Yes OP. Put this company before your own personal growth and interests. They will see your loyalty and put you in charge of the IT department for the entire company and shower you in money.


AlienTechnology51

lmao, you’re funny, but to be honest, I kinda get him… I use to also be that kind of loyal employee, naive and idealistic even, so I get it, but yeah you’re right. I’m fortunate enough that my employer is paying for my Bachelor’s degree in IT. I can’t leave my current job until I’m done, but I’m planning on work on getting certs in the mean time. I’m looking forward to filling out that first application.


belatedthesis323

If you don’t mind me asking, how did you get a role with that kind of set up? I’ve been wanting to go back to school to get my BS in the computer science realm and it would be AMAZING if my employer paid for it.


Harry_Hardlong

Lots of decent companies pay for education, some only pay up to a certain amount per year (like mine at 4k a year) and some cover everything.


AlienTechnology51

It’s really nothing special. I work in retail in the Asset Protection field. My employer offers an education benefit as part of the benefits package all full-time employees get. It’s really just a matter of finding an employer that offers some kind of education benefit like tuition assistance. In my case, my employer has partnered with a third party organization (called Guild Education) that interfaces between employers and different schools. The only thing is that my employer only covers degree programs for degrees that can be applicable to jobs at our company. For example, we are a national department store, so degrees in MBAs, Fashion, Accounting, Marketing and IT were all available. All I had to do was fill out a form, turn it in to Guild and they sent me information on what schools and degree programs are available. From there I just picked a school and picked their IT program, then applied directly to the school. Even though my employer is covering my full tuition, they still want you to fill out a FAFSA form. I’d be happy to answer additional questions if you have any.


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Jaybirdindahouse

Bro, what? I live in a town of 30k people, and when I quit my retail job for my current position in IT, I quit my retail job without notice and started my current position the next day. My mission is a career in IT and being an assistant manager at a gas station wasn’t helping me do that. You have to be selfish in the professional world. You have to do what’s best for you.


joser559

Idk how OP thinks 200k means a small town. There’s no way everyone knows each other haha


blowgrass-smokeass

Man I live in a city with 40k people and the only people I encounter multiple times are the employees at some of the stores and restaurants around here. And even then, I see tons of new faces at those places so it’s not super common to even see the same people for longer than a year. I don’t think for a single second that anyone from either company in the OP would be acquainted with or professionally associated with each other. Nobody is even going to bat an eye if OP quit with no notice, lol. It sounds to me like a Walmart or a Target or something similar, people probably quit after 2 hours. I wouldn’t be concerned in the slightest if someone quit after two months to start a job that actually aligns with their career goals.


sitesurfer253

For real. To put it into perspective, here are some "small towns" with 200k Richmond VA Columbus OH Montgomery AL Little Rock AK Tacoma WA


Rub-it

Haha and OP is worried


Additional-Ad-418

Columbus , OH here. Definitely don’t consider Columbus a “small town”


PTDon8734

Hahahaha, I left Knoxville, TN almost a decade ago for a Mayberry size town of 4500! Yeah, OP is more than likely overthrowing it.


toomes

For real. My grandparents live in a town of 900, 200k is a huge city haha


iLiveoffWelfare

Gonna give you some valuable advice. These companies don’t give a shit about and won’t think twice to let you go. Take that job and always put yourself first


[deleted]

i swear people are their own worst enemies your job does not give a crap about you. do you want to work in IT or not? if so take the IT job and start your career.


p3g_l3g_gr3g

Small town of 200k people is like Trump starting his business with a small loan of a million dollars. I actually work retail in a small town of 7k people. When i quit, people might notice but I guarantee nobody will give a shit. Not enough to waste their time remembering my name.


snickersnack77

If you're interested in an IT career you should take the job. Give two weeks and proffer "my dream job just fell into my lap* as an excuse You can also offer to help evenings and weekends for a while.


cbr954bendy

I had to leave a job I had only been at for 6 months to get my first L1 job in a data center. They were pretty pissed and dropped me on the spot when I gave notice. But I was positive I wanted to be in IT so I subsequently worked at the MSP for 3 years, got promoted twice, and made it to 6 figures. Point being, yes it feels bad leaving a job hanging but you can build a whole new reputation in IT that's better than anything you have now.


RSBuckz

How did you do this exactly? Like your pathway.


cbr954bendy

Short version: wanted to get into IT and got A+, Net+ and Sec+. Got the L1 job and did that for one year. Worked hard and got promoted to L3 sysadmin. Got interested in cloud and started picking up every aws cert I could and doing any aws ticket I could. That got me the job as a cloud consultant at my first MSP. A year after that I got recruited to an AWS only MSP as a cloud solutions architect and that's where I am now.


Psychological-Site-9

What was your journey like? I’m starting at an MSP on Monday & I would love to get to where you are in three years


cbr954bendy

See above where I answered. MSP is a tough way to start but totally worth it long term as you get exposed to so much. My first week I got yelled at for not knowing how to RDP and felt like quitting but push through that, and it becomes easier every day.


Psychological-Site-9

Impostor syndrome is definitely real and the closer I get to my start date the more nervous I feel if I have what it takes. Any advice or anything you think I should go over before officially starting?


cbr954bendy

When starting entry level IT no one should expect you to know much. Just focus on good customer service and learning as much as you can and you'll be good. If you like it, start adding certifications to accelerate your career.


Psychological-Site-9

Solid advice, thanks!


Ezureal

Why so worried about leaving? Isn’t this the whole point is to leave retail lol. Take the job and start your career or suffer in retail. Easy choice I think to make.


pidancer789

No don’t do that take helpdesk job


logicson

>My issue now is that my job history doesn't look great. It appears that was a non-issue as you have a job offer in hand. >I want to jump ship from my retail job Get the hell out of retail as fast as you can. I will never go back if I can help it. >I know that they would be upset if I left You know, there's something called employee retention strategy, some mucky muck buzzword in business circles. Your boss/employer/whoever being upset if/when you leave is on THEM. What have they done to try and retain you and make sure you are happy and satisfied in your role? I'm going to guess jack #$%\^. >see maybe if there's a way to transfer over to the tech department at the store So you would turn down a job offer *in hand* doing something that *you studied for,* on the off chance that *maybe* you can transfer to the store's tech department. Seriously, take a risk and take the job. Get experience at that MSP then find something better.


Tugyen

Whats an msp ?


heisenberg149

Managed Service Provider. They provide IT services for other companies


the1thatdoesntex1st

200k, and you say “small town?” What the butter loving hell?


SpadeXHunter

That’s what I was thinking too. My town has 25k and only has 1 high school and I didn’t even know who half the people there were and wouldn’t recognize them on the street or by name. 200k and no one is going to know you except the people you deal with.


xboxhobo

You are in your own head with anxiety. This is the part where you grow up and learn that in the end you as an individual are just not that important. Leave the retail job, obviously. There is nothing about leaving so soon that "looks bad" to anyone.


xtc46

You are overthinking it. Take the job. ​ No one is going to even remember you worked at the retail place for 2 months, and anyone who faults you for leaving is nuts. ​ Leaving 1 job after 2 months is just a person leaving a job for a better opportunity. Just dont do that 5 times in a row and no one cares.


beardedheathen

Fuck do it 10 times in a row or 80. if you are getting better offers it's obviously not affecting your prospects


Thick-Marzipan6906

Bro wat?????? You think word will spread about quitting your retail job in a "small" town of 200 THOUSAND people? Dude I quit my retail HS job and nobody batted an eye lmao


fastnsx21

200k isn't a small town lol


[deleted]

Small town is less than 10k. Heck really small are some of the ones near me with less than 1k. Move on and don't look back at the retail gig.


beardedheathen

Right? We have just under 10k and no MSPs. Our nearest big town is under 50k word won't spread around and the only person who will blame someone for leaving their job for better pay or a career is an asshole


AnonymousSmartie

200k... I moved from a 1k town to a 20k city and thought that was insane. I cannot imagine thinking 200k is a small town.


Trucker2TechGuy

Smallest town I ever lived in had less than 500 people, one morning I stopped at the gas station for cigarettes and coffee and the clerk said “I heard your neighbor rolled his car” (I didn’t know who the hell the clerk was, I was just there for a gig lol)


Info-Book

Even if word got around that you left Walmart to start a career in IT, why would that be a bad thing? Who wouldn’t understand Walmart was temporarily til you could start with what you wanted?


Creepy-Bowler6586

I been reading a lot here and been seeing the word MSP used. What does MSP mean?


Jsaun906

Managed Service Provider. A company that provides IT services for other companies


beardedheathen

Something service provider. Basically it's an it shop that gets a bunch of workers and rents them out to be the it departments of places that don't want to/can't afford a full time it department


Esay101

Worrying about gossip from towns folk is a temporary issue, whereas your CAREER is what sets you up for the rest of your life. I suggest taking the interview and job, especially since you don’t have much work experience. Don’t put much (or any) stock into how other people think of you or your career decisions because more often than not, those judgy people don’t care about you or your well being anyway.


Sickcloudsbruv

Do you want to work in I.T.? ​ Quit the job and take the offer. Your job history won't look great if you don't work in I.T.


Fromageetchocolat

I highly doubt anyone in your town will care that you left a retail job after two months. Retail has an extremely high level of turn over and it’s expected that you won’t stay long. Take the job offer!


lemoncherrykush

Bro the ppl at ur job would be calling u a dummy for contemplating it… especially ur reasons lol


bigdawg1017

tell your job that you found another job. or don't. nobody REALLY cares. if your goal is IT put all your energy into that. i should actually follow what I'm saying to you lol. I took a job as supervisor after studying for the A+. I keep telling myself im going to eventually leave but idk when


MegaOddly

No turning down the offer is the one thing you shouldn't do. It's a retail store I'll assume if tech department it's similar to Walmart. They will still have you in retail not actual IT work. You will just be trying to sell people computers or TVs etc etc. 200K isn't a lot of people and no one is gunna bat an eye that you left a dead end job to move on with your career. Be nice give 2 weeks if you don't want to cut off entirely but take the job. You need thr experience to advance


TodayDramatic

Tech department is retail. 200k people is nothing. They don’t care about you. Not everyone knows you and if they do who cares? People leave jobs all the time. People get replaced


foosedev

Take the job offer while you can. There's no guarantee this retail business is going to give you a tech job. You would be moving on to something better.


Brendyn00

Dude . Take the help desk job lol


[deleted]

Quit now, your future IT career has more opportunity


Slam_Dunk_Kitten

Dude take the job


jwalsh1208

Your current job doesn’t care about you, your wants, your goals, or your well being. I’m sure co workers are cool. But never place emotions that should be reserved for people onto corporations and companies. Corporations exist for profit. They care about making money. That’s it. If it would benefit them, they would fire you on the spot, walk you out, and never think about you again. Keep that in mind when you feel some type of loyalty to a company, because they feel absolutely none toward you. When it comes to work, you need to focus on what is best for your life now and in the future. Not how it’ll impact your current company.


blowgrass-smokeass

Your whole goal with your current job was to pay for certifications so you could get a different job. Why would you be worried about quitting? That was literally your goal. Congratulations, you have achieved what you set out to do! Now go accept that job, give a proper two weeks notice if you’re worried, and try to enjoy your new job. I promise you, word will not travel fast in a *city* with 200k people. That is 5x the size of my city, and I would quit my retail job on the spot if I received a job offer for a job that actually aligns with my career goal. If your current employer gets mad at you for succeeding in your goal to move into the IT field, then they didn’t care about you in the first place and you don’t want to work for them anyway.


ElderberryTrick9697

Take the job offer.


kurios182

Take the job, talk to your retail manager about this opportunity and your career


Banesmuffledvoice

Take the new job in tech and grow. According to you, you took the retail job to pay for these certifications. The payoff of the job happened. Now go reap the rewards.


Narrow_Study_9411

Look for an internal promotion. Otherwise put in a year then job hop. I don't think employers will hold it against you if you are moving up or moving to another place to look for growth. Just frame it in a way that you wanted to level up/learn more/find more opportunity.


derkaderka96

Tech suckd right now, lucky you got it. Take it.


TheyCallMeGriZ

It's already been said 100x, but take the job. No one will care that you left a retail job after 2 months for something that's putting you on the path to your career. Your goal is a career in IT, not retail management. Leave and give a notice if your conscience is gonna force you, but I'd tell the new job 2 weeks, give the old job one week, and take a week off.


wjdthird

Take the job MSP is not an easy tech job but you will learn a ton


catboi37

lol fuck the retail job. nobody's gonna care that much about some kid quitting to go a job that'll actually give you a future.


bluetitan001

There is nothing wrong with job jumping if they can be explained , you said in your post that it was to pay for Certs. The question is why did you leave the one before that? As for turning it down when you have no experience in IT… I mean good luck , but half the battles people have getting a job in IT is lack of experience , balls up … take the job and get the experience and then in 12-24 months take the stab at the better paid position … don’t hold out now because you think you worth more because the reality is you probably aren’t I’ve been in the IT field for 21 years … I’m good at what I do … but I manage guys who are more skilled than me … my skill is business acumen and communication , and finally facilitation …. I would take a guy with experience and personality to work in IT , and build them up to take my job … not someone who thinks they are to good to work for me


Elliotm77

Absolutely asinine to not take the offer. Also a city of 200k does not spread quick.


EastSide_MooNwalker_

Take that job. You will thank yourself later.


mattthefucker

200k, small town. Pick one. Take the job offer you'd be stupid not to


FinancialConnection9

I can assure you no one is gonna care that you left your retail job for an IT job, especially if you stay at the IT job for 1-2 years or get promoted there. You got a job offer take it and start building your skills and you'll be able to find another job after this one easy.


Dreadstar22

/u/north_enthusiast do yourself a favor and take the MSP job. Leave the 2 month sales gig off your resume. Typically MSP is 3x the experience of a internal helpdesk. I'd going to go out on a limb and say it's going to be more multiples compared to your retail helpdesk. The hardest IT job to get is the first one. You've got an offer. Take it. Get a year experience. Most MSPs are grinders from hell but maybe you'll get lucky. Get that year experience while upskilling. Get your CCNA and one other cert while you are doing the first year. Security+ is a good one. Linux+ isn't bad if you wanna be a Linux admin. VMware has a good associate if you find virtualization interesting. AZ-104 or one of the M365 certs are good if you like the Microsoft ecosystem. Get that year at the MSP and your CCNA then any of the above certs in the niche you find interesting. After one year you'll always have a job on a helpdesk so you've got job security and you can start hunting for a higher paying higher role. System Admin(Windows or Linux), Network Admin, VMWare, Security based on the cert you picked.


theborgman1977

MSP is a good resume builder and if you like the work can be a rewarding career. Level 1 tech at a MSP just has to be breathing with basic understanding if IT. I am Level 2 to Level 3 at a MSP. I took the leap to management and started a MSP for a company.


napalm_p

Take the offer. You learn very quickly at an MSP and it will jump start your career


[deleted]

200k isn't a small town my guy. Quit the job.


sunshinebrigg

Take the job offer this market is hard as hell to land any entry lvl IT role. They already offered you the job get that experience and keep growing.


BaldSportsFan

Oh my goodness


Hier0phant

Dude take the msp offer


Evaderofdoom

200k is not that small, but you should 100% take the help desk job. The nature of retail is people quite often and without notice or cause. People where ghosting in retail 30 some years ago before it was a term and probably before definitely before that. You have a chance to break into IT, something that is super hard right now you should take it. In a year, two years and on no one will care about this retail job on your resume. Its only 2 months I wouldn't even put it on.


AppearanceAgile2575

What is your boss in retail going to blackball you from? No offense, but if they had that kind of pull they wouldn’t be working in retail.


sportsroc15

Retail?? They won’t remember your name a few days after you leave. Walk and get some real IT experience. It’ll change your life. I left my Engineering Technician job for IT desktop support and couldn’t have been happier. Parlayed that into leaving that company to a systems administrator job 6 months later.


Refrigerator_Every

Take the job. You will make less money on an internal transfer to the IT department.


Rare-Motor-8560

Dude take the damn job! You have no experience, I’m not saying you don’t deserve the job but if you turn this down who knows how long until you get another opportunity. Once you have this IT job on your resume you’re opening a lot of doors for yourself. TAKE THE JOB!


Knxghtmare

1. I live in Lakeland, FL similar size. Unless you talk to literally everyone, no, the "whole town" is not gonna find out. 2. If the whole town found out you quit some run of the mill retail job, why should you care? You don't owe that conoany anything, they're not your spouse, not your kids, and the people there don't really like you. You're still new for crying out loud. 3. You already answered your question. You already said you want to jump ship, so jump ship and take the better job. They're not gonna transfer you to tech just because you ask. Lesson: Stop caring if the co of your likes you if you don't work there/don't wanna work there anymore. Care about if the new company does. And no, the people there aren't your family. Your family is your family. They all say that. 4. "Tech Department" of a retail store that will still just be you selling stuff and sometimes doing warranty claims is nowhere near the breath and depth working at an MSP, even a small one, will get you. They also don't look the same on paper. Some Geek Squad guy would need to be way more impressive in an interview versus the high-schooler that learned Powershell and Python on his phone in his free time and can prove it in a practical sense. 5. The MSP will earn you more money over time, even after you eventually leave them. And you *should* eventually leave them because your pay *will* plateau and your bills won't. Always invest in yourself first and always unskill so you're not at the mercy of any particular employer or the changing tides of industry.