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WellyKiwi

* Save as much money as you can - immigrating is expensive * Don't buy a house - rent as cheaply as you can * Keep out of trouble with the police - a clean record opens doors (please see clarifying comment from u/Agent_Goldfish below - thank you for your feedback!) * Learn the language of the country you'd like to move to - assuming you know where you want to go * Get qualified in an in-demand profession * Get as much experience as you can * Network, network, network - Follow thought and business leaders on LinkedIn in the country you want to go to, and join groups * Don't forget where you came from - make memories and friends where you are now, don't focus *only* on the future * Get/stay in good health * Don't leave it too late!


Agent_Goldfish

>Keep out of trouble with the police - a clean record opens doors I agree with the sentiment, but I think this is better said the reverse way. A criminal record closes doors. The way it's currently written sounds like having a clean record is sufficient to "get out", where it's just one condition of successful immigration. It's a nitpicky critique, but I can absolutely imagine someone reading that and going "I'm a law abiding citizen, therefore i can immigrate"...


WellyKiwi

No you're absolutely right, thank you for your feedback. I'll edit my post to point to your comment.


mofukkinbreadcrumbz

Keep life simple. Pets, a spouse and kids will complicate the move. Source: have two out of three. Definitely making it harder.


blueberrysir

How late is too late?


WellyKiwi

That will depend on the type of visa you're after as many have an age cut-off. Also most government pension schemes have a minimum number of years that you have to pay into them for, before you can draw on it later. If you're moving my yourself, you need to figure out if you hope to settle down and have a family in your new country.


dinosaur_of_doom

To give a more exact age, I'd say later than 45 is when it most obviously becomes difficult for a number of desirable countries. e.g. for Canada you no longer gain any points for age (decreases from age 30 or so), and I believe one of the Australian skilled work visas has an age cap of 45. This is compounded by the fact that most points based visas don't really care about 10 years of experience vs 20, and by 35 you could easily have 10 years of experience and a degree (or two), so the relative advantage of more experience at 45 is likely significantly reduced.


AtatheKin

>Network, network, network - Follow thought and business leaders on LinkedIn in the country you want to go to, and join groups Actually this is something I'm not doing and it makes so much sense, thanks for this list


alloutofbees

There's no reason to rent instead of buy when buying is generally cheaper and it provides a significant amount of equity that makes establishing yourself elsewhere way easier. The people who own houses and post here are always in a much better financial position than renters. It was also much easier for me to move out at my own convenience and line up renters for my place than it would have been to try to end a lease at the same time as a major move that depended on things like work permit approval, then somehow find people who wanted to sublease an unfurnished place for a random number of months.


WellyKiwi

Not sure I'd want to be a landlord from another country though. The likelihood of abuse is far too high for me. And in some countries (e.g. the UK), it's a nightmare to sell a place. It can takes months upon months. In NZ it's possible for everything to be done within 48 hours, with no possibility of anyone being able to back out.


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Honestly unsure why you're being downvoted


[deleted]

a) They assume buying is always cheaper than renting: it might be wherever they are from but it's not true everywhere e.g. in most cities here in Germany. b) They assume the person that does not own a house is wasting away money and not investing on anything else e.g. stocks, ETFs, etc. Of course buying a house can be a great idea in some places, but it's not a blanket good advice, esp. for people who are looking to leave their country.


[deleted]

Those are good points. I think renting is a good idea in the short term and buying is good for the long term. I'm going to wait until my house is paid off before I make any major move because being able to sell it or rent it out is helpful but for most people they don't need to really. Also where I'm at buying is cheaper than renting so that's why I went that route. Just depends on your options and what you value I suppose.


YWGtrapped

Depends which countries you're looking at getting into and out of. As a general rule, higher education and more language skills and higher skilled work experience would likely be helpful.


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SkittyLover93

If you have any interest in it, getting a Computer Science degree and becoming a software engineer will qualify you for a work visa to most countries. And certain countries prefer only skilled labor to become permanent residents, which you will qualify as. It also tends to pay better than other jobs, and you have a higher chance of being able to work in English (if that's your preference) than other jobs. Software engineering also has the advantage of not requiring country-specific certifications to work in a specific country, unlike other fields like law or medicine.


CheeseWheels38

Become highly skilled/educated in an in-demand, but not highly regulated, field. An electrical engineering degree with a PhD in radio frequency circuit design opens more doors than an associates degree in *inserts field that offends a bunch of people*. Languages are helpful, but they alone won't generally open doors.


lucassjrp2000

>in-demand, but not highly regulated, field. \*Cries in accountant*


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MrJason005

Accountants may be in demand but the regulations and the certification process varies from country to country, making it hard to immigrate and re-certify yourself to be recognised abroad


lucassjrp2000

The problem is the "not highly regulated" part, not lack of demand.


eslforchinesespeaker

Hey dude, I got an associate’s degree in _worthless field that’s easily mocked_. You can go _action which is both distasteful and anatomically improbable_ yourself. And so can your _maternal relative who has no connection to the conversation_.


emt139

>>> Languages are helpful, but they alone won't generally open doors. Yes please. Don’t major in, say, german if you want to go work in germany. Major in something Germany needs *and-* learn German.


Independent-Dig-3963

Learning several languages. Respecting all other cultures. Be curious about other customs and not judgmental. Nurture flexibility.


TequilaStories

Have a look at any family ancestor visas you might be eligible to apply for and start getting paperwork together. Learn any language just to teach yourself how to approach it and the best ways to learn. If you are eligible for working holiday visas check the age limits and factor those in as well.


lazy_jones

No property, no pets(!), multiple passports, registered company in a 3rd country for freelancing, get English certificate, learn skills that allow remote work from anywhere, get internationally relevant certificates like MBA or an engineering degree, have cash reserves. I moved countries at 4, 7, 17, 47. Could have moved to the USA at 27 but didn't (mostly) because of my social network and my cat. For my last move, my personally held property and stocks will incur a lot of taxes. I should have kept them in a limited company.


justavg1

this guy knows.


Jake20702004

The guy emigrates.


roxemmy

How would you open a company in a country you’re not a resident of? I looked into this a couple years ago for my small business & couldn’t figure out a way to do it. The only few options I did come across were for large corporations, not a small business.


lazy_jones

Just look into "offshore companies": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore_company https://www.offshorecompany.com/company/ireland-llc/


roxemmy

I’ll check out the link, but I did quite a bit of research on it in 2020 before I finally created my business & made it an LLC


Hazelnut526

Learn English, if you don't already. Get an engineering degree, that sector has a shitload of scholarships for masters/PhD degree. Easiest way to move out is to study abroad and then find a job there ornin another country


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Answers say get an in-demand skill and I will straight up say study programming and/or its related professions. so there, i saved you from thinking what in-demand skill is good. This industry by far is currently the highest paid unregulated field accessible by average intellect and can be done in pure English working environment anywhere even remote and even in non-English speaking regions. Tell me what else can compare with ALL these perks. Not all STEM fields are equal. Then perhaps a third language.


flyingcatpotato

American in Europe for over 20 years: Learn a language besides English to at least B2 in Europe. I got out but I wouldn't have been able to stay out realistically (even with my work permit sorted) had i not been functionally bilingual and willing to learn a third because I wouldn't have been employable in any job i wanted to do. When I realized i needed to pick up a third language i did. I use all three at work. Only speaking english can work in the short to medium term but unless you're highly specialized, being english only is gonna take you out of the running for the best jobs. Also ppl get lowkey judgemental like "what you've been here five years and you can't read your phone bill" Also, people are willing to put up with crappy english more than they are willing to put up with crappy local language. For hiring managers in the places I have lived, two ppl with exactly the same degrees and experience show up, english mother tongue only isn't as desirable as being able to water cooler talk with ppl in 2 to 4 languages even if the company language is English. Not learning a local language also makes daily life harder for stupid things like the post office and groceries, health insurance . It's not a good trade off. The only person i know who has successfully avoided learning the language where he has lived for 30 years was only able to do so because he has a really specific IT qualification and about ten years in he married a local who, by the way, is tired of translating for him. Specifically mentioning Europe because I've only lived in Europe since i emigrated, I don't know how it is in other places.


No-Virus-4571

Study something in STEM, learn programming and a couple of new languages. Saving up all the money I can.


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No debt, no stuff, no loans, no relationships, open accounts abroad, travel, and plan


accnewniala

A lot of things can vary, depending on which country you want to move to. For example, medical degrees or teachers degrees or some other college degrees or licenses in your own country might not get recognized in the foreign country you want to move to. ​ So, first, decide which country you want to move to. And learn the local language and culture and things needed in that specific country.


SaskFoz

Without knowing from & to, languages & education, preferably making sure the education is fairly general (ie, engineering, medical, or basically anything software/coding vs law or accounting, which tend to be country specific).


parallaxreality

If you’re still in high school, do rotary foreign exchange. In college, do study abroad. Learn other languages. See if you can get any other citizenships through ancestry.


bashleyf

I would get into a good paying field with lots of remote jobs. I would also learn another language or two.


Punklet2203

I would have actually stopped being a people pleaser. Let my borderline personality mother talk me out of a chance to work at the American Embassy in Germany because she had an unhealthy attachment to my son. I was eighteen. Would have changed my life. Been the working poor ever since.


King_Ghidra_

Don't have a child and avoid child support Pay all your taxes and stay current. Both of these can prevent you from getting a passport


majorex64

Get a degree and skills that are in demand internationally


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AlreadyTakenNow

Figure out what you want to do with a trade/career, save money and investigate international schools. If you don't have stellar grades/experience, look into community college and kick ass at a few classes so you have something to offer the international schools. This will provide you something good regardless of when you leave.


senakin

I’d look for jobs at companies that have headquarters or offices in the country/s that you’d like to move to. Some companies will allow for “employee transfers” and help you get a visa in the other country so you can move there and work for them there. My company does this and my coworker was able to move easily to the EU from the US


a12ncsu

Learn different languages, save as much money as you can, keep up on what’s going on in other countries socially, politically… basically becoming fluent in other languages and saving 💵


KristenE_79

Save as much money as you can. That means a lot to different people. Save more than you spend. Don’t spend frivolously, you don’t need new cars and clothes. Splurge on things that matter in the long run, your health and happiness (vacation & experiences).


littleprettypaws

If I were starting out now I would totally go the digital nomad route and travel as much as possible while working. Learn more languages, get educated in a stem field, etc.


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Dating people from other countries


[deleted]

A comment I've seen here already but I'll reinforce and build on it a bit. Don't leave it too late!!! Have a set time frame if possible and keep in mind your age when making any such move. I hate to say it and point this out but some countries do knock you down once you hit 30 onwards


tropicalsoul

Looking into my ancestry and see if there are some countries that are easier to move to because a relative was born there. For example, I just found out that I may be eligible to move to Italy because a grandparent was born there. I'm too poor and old to do it now, but I wish I had known this years ago. Also, I would save money and make sure to have a job that has some value. Certain countries only accept you if you can offer some type of service or have a job in a field that they need more people in.


daughterjudyk

Start learning the basics of the local language if it is different from your native language. Update your CV/resume if you will be job seeking in your target country. Update your passport to make sure it is valid. Figure out what stuff will be going with you to the new country -> sell or store the rest and figure in the cost of storage and shipping if you're bringing more than a couple suitcases.


redgatorade000

Learn another spoken language and learn to code.


roxemmy

Honestly, it depends how old you are now. Are you 14? Then in 10 years when you’re 24 the world will be different & careers that are lucrative now may now be very great 10 years from now. Everyone is saying to study programming - yeah a lot of people are getting into that now so the field might be saturated with people trained & wanting to work as a programmer. My suggestion would be to save as much money as you can - don’t waste money on crap you don’t really need. After high school you could backpack around some countries on a tight budget to get an idea of where you might want to stay long-term. Or you could take your saved money & go to a college program in a different country (I’m assuming you’re in the US). Most countries have more affordable college than the US has. Figure out what sort of things you like to do, what interests you have, is there any way to make that into a business where you can do it remotely (online)? You could get a TEFL certification after high school & work in another country for a year & use that as a way to travel around that area & also save money. Teaching English pays well, many schools will also pay for your housing, usually you can get hired in a country that has a low cost of living - so you’re able to save money. If you can figure out where you want to live permanently (get residency / citizenship) then look into the requirements they have for their residency & citizenship. Some countries you have to work in a field on their list of jobs they need workers for. If that’s the case for the country you want to live in then you could go to college IN that country for one of the careers on their list. So there’s a few things to think about.


KGman1267

study programming or IT related so you can work remotely, and earn great wage for the country you are in.


Trumpsafascist

Get a trade. An apprenticeship in an in demand field and studying german more would have allowed me to leave long ago.


TRUMBAUAUA

Move out earlier. Literally.


kiefer-reddit

Language skills don't really matter as much as you think on a governmental level. They are primarily useful for getting a job in the first place. Speaking fluent German won't really help you a ton for getting into Germany, for example. It's the job that ultimately matters. Ergo, you should focus almost entirely on the *career* aspect of your future. As many others have suggested, if you're open to anything, then go for STEM. Software in particular is a great route for either a) getting a remote job and living anywhere or b) getting a local job in a first-world country.


[deleted]

Get into real estate sales and then move abroad to join a country and company with lots of expats coming in, like those realtors on House Hunters International did


Weskerlicious

Get born into a different family


curly_crazy_curious

I would move out sooner. I delayed it and I think if I had left it earlier my life was very different in a positive way.


diybarbi

Nobody’s mentioned, but I think visiting your intended country multiple times, different areas, would be crucial. Learn the real estate market and different sub-cultures to see where you’d be most comfortable. Like the US where each state and region has a different “feel” - or microcosm - of the grander scheme.


Catfo0od

College


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I’m going to comment here just to have the notifications of this post, bc it seems good me


Individual_Gain_5405

I will tell him or her that in most of the world when you turn the electric light on it might come on but it might not and when you go to use the toilet it might flush but it might not that’s how the rest of the world works I spent 24 years in the military traveled on every continent that’s my conclusion.


Reborn_Forerunner

Seconding what a lot of people here are saying about learning the languages spoken by the country you want to move to, no matter what it may be. Also get to know people who live there. They can give you greater insight on daily life there more than a app or website can. Plus you might make some more friends.


brighton36

Learn to code