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Square_Coat_8208

China is fucking gone bro 💀


Perky_Bellsprout

Mongolia looking good rn


No_Cookie9996

Apart from fact that half of population live in capital so this 15 nukes wiped some of 60-70% of population in one blast


Coolscee-Brooski

More than half.. closer to 90%


No_Cookie9996

They have 72% of urbanization, so it's impossible to hit 90% population, unless it was during some gathering time of sort(holiday, selling harvest)


Constant_Of_Morality

>Mongolia's population is 3,409,939, of which 45 percent live in Ulaanbaatar, the largest city.


awrcja

Hawaii looking good


worldRulerDevMan

Not necessarily “lol jk it’s gone” the bombs from the tv show are small nukes smallllllllll. Like Davie Crocket small


JosephPorta123

The nukes in Fallout lore has always been kinda small, 700 kilotons or smth


worldRulerDevMan

Correct but the tv show actually lets us measure the yield. I can look it up if you like. Google should be able to tell. This bombs are like the size of a mini nuke. Tell you the USA is fine- gotta remeber the radiation from a bomb is drastically less than a reactor- like the radiation will be gone in 2 weeks


JosephPorta123

The bombs detonating in Los Angeles in the first episode is def wayy more than a Mini Nuke, although I agree they seem a bit smaller than I would expect, but I don't know the blast size for every nuclear weapon in existence


Gen_Ripper

The bombs in the show were way bigger than tactical nukes. https://youtu.be/tLEAuapfwHc?si=J07U3hTpqQHB_7IL


worldRulerDevMan

Your right. They are smaller than little boy though


AngrySasquatch

67 nukes on the Philippines… good bye my kababayan


CallMeChristopher

I’m pretty sure they’d all hit Manila. And maybe larger cities like Davao and Cebu. Like, if most people were firing nukes and had a choice between nuking Manila again and hitting Lucena, most people would probably pick “Nuke Manila Again.”


AngrySasquatch

If I recall correctly, the Fallout 4 intro has the news broadcaster name drop the 5th Infantry Division as defending the "Island of Mambajao" (Camiguin.) This would mean it's a key defensive point in the Philippine campaign. If we assume that, as per the map, the Chinese had control over Mindanao, they'd probably nuke Mindanao more, while the Chinese would nuke Luzon and Visayas, maybe? I do think it's just a teeny bit odd that the Chinese would be holding the south of the country rather than the north half, though... though, of course, war and fortune are fickle sisters at the best of times. But yeah the Greater Manila Area is fucked in general, can't imagine the Americans in the Fallout TL trying to evenly spread development/investment to the rest of the country if they (or we) didn't do that in ours!


FatalTerminator

Alaska is completely unscathed by nuclear fire???


Corb1n_T

alaska is counted under the northwest commonwealth. they were not spared in the slightest


Corb1n_T

this also includes hawaii under the southwest commonwealth and puerto rico under the southeast commonwealth by the way


FatalTerminator

And Hawaii? Navy reserves and half of the active U.S army are completely fine according to this map


CervidusDubbo

Well now we know how the enclave are so massive


Alternative_Fold718

Imagining an Enclave member decked out in power armor kicking back on a beach chair in Hawaii. Got a drink with one of those colored umbrella toothpicks in them too.


CervidusDubbo

It’s dornan, he’s feeling good after screaming at some privates who’ve lost their armour


ChemFeind360

Well, there’s not much to Nuke in Alaska anyway, so it’s not too unlikely.


Yarus43

In our time line, in the fallout timeline I imagine there'd be a significant us military presence there after the Chinese invasion of Anchorage


the-commoner

I think the CCP would have written off Anchorage as a priority target, the city sprawl was already ravaged by the war. Honestly, I would not be surprised if Alaska (similar to the 1983 Doomsday TL) got back on its feet far sooner than the rest of the American homeland.


Left1Brain

What is there to bomb in Alaska.


RiddimDungeon

Military bases


LazarusBrazarus

Alaska was hit first. After China invaded Alaska there was extensive conventional war that lasted a long time, and it was in Alaska where the first nuclear attack took place.


Constant_Of_Morality

Well they do have Anti-Nukes irl like at Fort Greely and Vandenburg.


dr197

China said “fuck Mexico in particular”.


DataMin3r

Twice as many nukes at the entirety of Canada lmao


KNDBS

But 3 times the population of Canada tho


Intamin6026

In a much denser area though


Hennessy_ODriscoll

Fr how are they only gonna nuke Canada 240 times but absolutely obliterate Mexico like that? 😭


RjcDOntkillme

THREE TIME WORLD WAR CHAMPIONS BABEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! US US US US US


Master_Quack97

Smell that radioactive air! Couldn't you just drink it like booze?


Pixel22104

That’s less than the amount of nuclear weapons we have currently


Merker6

In the Fallout Universe, they were probably throwing around bombs with far, far higher yields than we went with in real life. Based on the evidence we have, a single bomb basically turned all of Rhode Island into a radioactive wasteland devoid of life, while another bomb landed in the middle pf Boston and barely knocked down the buildings around it. Same for DC


undreamedgore

They must have went dlr dirty Bomba rather than pure detonation bombs. Most modern nukes are designed for big boom rather than high rads.


Mobius_1IUNPKF

They did


the-commoner

According to the official lore, the warheads utilized were “low yield” and intended to spread as much radiological activity as possible.


Threedawg

Yeah, fallout nukes are well known to be lower yield


ActedCarp

Source for the Rhode Island stuff?


Merker6

I mean, the glowing sea is approximately the direction where the Rhode Island border should be. The scaling is a bit off in the games, but that would appear to make sense based on context


_Inkspots_

The glowing sea isn’t just bc of a dirty bomb. It’s a dirty bomb being dropped on a nuclear power plant.


Constant_Of_Morality

>It’s a dirty bomb being dropped on a nuclear power plant. That's already been discussed, But the Nuclear power plant at County Crossing puts out even more Radiation than the one in the Glowing Sea, So I doubt that's what caused the glowing sea, More likely the lower yield and the way the Bomb's been maximise to have more Radiation, Almost like the very similar way of a [Salted Bomb](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salted_bomb). >The County Crossing nuclear power plant to the southwest is irradiated, reaching up to +56 rads at the base of each containment sphere. >An average strategic warhead in 2077 had a yield of about 200-750 kilotons, but with a massive increase in radioactive fallout in place of thermal shock. However, despite the apparent reduction in raw explosive power, this arsenal was far more dangerous to the Earth's ecosystem, as it deposited far greater amounts of fallout in the atmosphere than had been assumed by pre-War models.


SlottyHamster

I think a number if not the majority of the atomic weapons fired by either side would have been intercepted considering Mr Houses' (a private citizen albeit a very well connected one) progress in protecting Las Vegas.


Axtratu

What did Mexico do?


Unit2209

In a hypothetical USA vs China war, most US manufacturing would likely move to Mexico. It's close, cheap, and has a large population eager for work.


Axtratu

Ermm, why don't they do that irl?


Unit2209

Funnily enough it is happening now! The largest industrial zone in the world spans over a considerable sector of the Texas-Mexican border. China is no longer a nation of peasant farmers. The average Chinese working age male has a college education and isn't willing to work for cheap anymore.


AltMyBalls

I go to Hawaii! https://preview.redd.it/vdgaq868663d1.jpeg?width=1107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b2782f569a188922291a7d2a6126c0edfba4bc0


grif112

As a New Englander I resent the idea that we'd receive the lowest amount of nukes of the lower 48. Without globalization taking hold and an increase in domestic american weapons production New England would be the heartland of small arms and aircraft manufacturing. That's worth a few dozen more nukes hitting us I'll have you know.


undreamedgore

You're also the farthest away from China.


TheGreatKlordu

As an Alaskan, you are the first person from the lower 48 that I've seen call it the lower 48.


UncleLogan308

Shouldn't Myanmar/Burma and Cambodia have different flags?


bridgetggfithbeatle

puerto rico: ok


Ser-Bearington

*sips tea in the UK*


Mobius_1IUNPKF

You’ve would’ve been dead long before the Great War, the UK was a part of the collasped-into-warfare European Commonwealth.


Ser-Bearington

*sips tea from the skulls of his enemies in the UK*


Mobius_1IUNPKF

That’s more like it


AWESOMENESS-_-

So where was that island I heard of a few years ago that is uninhabited by humans? It’s sounding better by the second! On a side note: Has Amazon built teleporters for delivering packages yet? Yeah, Mr. Bezos before you use your wealth to escape to some vault in space (wonder what experiment Vault Tec planned in space) I’ma need one of those package tele-porter thingy’s to bring with me… (PS: [unofficially] Was/Would Vault-Tec started by Elon Musk? Or would he be the institute? Or both!?)


electrical-stomach-z

if its a space vault its likely enclave not vault tech


PianistPitiful5714

Vault Tec is closer to Amazon than anything. Elon isn’t smart enough to have founded the Institute. He’d more likely have built West Tek, a military contractor, and a shoddy one at that.


GarlicBow

I recently read Annie Jacobsen’s “Nuclear Scenario”, and it makes the case that this would quickly become a civilization-ending event, though perhaps not full human extinction.


mtbalshurt

Would you recommend buying the book? It's on sale rn and I'm curious


GarlicBow

It is well researched, well written, and compelling. I wouldn’t say I enjoyed it, though, but I’m glad I read it.


Wayfaring_Stalwart

If Cambodia is a Chinese Puppet, does that mean Pol Pot was never lost power


Ok-Literature-899

Oh no


Traditional_Let_8748

A fallout set in China or any of the territories would be sick


wombicle

I never understood why the Soviet Union is barely mentioned even though it exists in the Fallout universe.


Aerial-Attack

I feel like the total nukes used should be closer to 80,000 rather than 8,000. The peak Cold War arsenals of the US and USSR were around 20,000-30,000 each, and I’d imagine numbers should be similar in the Fallout universe given the absurd level of tech used by both sides. Other than that, cool map.


DefiantLemur

I'm pretty sure the D.C. area was hit with more then a few nukes.


Krilesh

it just feels china got the nuked


Square_Coat_8208

I think 40K+ nuclear detonations would be more accurate


exdigecko

So many benefits living in Puerto Rico: you’re basically one of the states but you won’t get nuked when it comes to that


jahill2000

My question is why are so much of the major cities still standing. Would a nuke not level a big chunk of Boston and Washington and LA?


electrical-stomach-z

the lore would indicate that china was nuked much less hard, since america didnt fully unleash its arsanel.


tbolinger76

That's what's confirmed; but the whole world got hit.


_Inkspots_

Japan got off pretty easily with 52 nukes…


Klutzy_Environment22

Consider that the southern hemisphere is relatively okay in the years followingÂ