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Inglorious186

Don't worry, at least we can't hold the companies liable anymore


pnkfrg

This is so fucked up and I feel like nobody cares


SmCaudata

I think a lot do care. At least those that support one political party…


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SmCaudata

I was thinking more federal level. We really need to have food and environmental regulation/protections like the Euro countries. Letting companies poison the population in the name of profits is insane. Unfortunately with the filibuster we will need some of the red states to hop on board and vote for a dem for anything to happen.


o-Valar-Morghulis-o

Letting companies profit at the expense of the population and country is insane. We need to cap profits, tax wealth, and put the people first in this country.


Van-garde

Agreed. Current politicians are too entangled in finances and public perceptions to put forth anything meaningful, concerning the wellbeing of the population. Wrong type of people making decisions.


No-Camp-5718

In Europe, companies have to prove chemicals are safe. In the USA, the public has to prove chemicals are dangerous (which is a lot more difficult to prove considering the army of lawyers these corporations employ).


Lizzy_Boredom_999

I'm going to have to agree. This state has been so torn up by GOP policies that it's going to take forever to clean up the mess.


monkeygodbob

I'd love to say the democrats would fix it, but american politicians are 95% about profit. :(


SalamanderUnfair8620

If you drink enough of this county’s water you won’t have a choice but to shit your pants.


Bigtown3

There are many…. I mean many lobbyists working with all state legislators to pass bills like the one for Bayer! They work for the money and not for the people in this case. One member was just diagnosed cancer too, and they still supported the bayer bill. Not saying it’s the chemicals that cause it but it’s certainly logical no we need the science and data… which requires funding from legislators….


Elderberry4ever

I was born in Kossuth. All my relatives who farmed died of cancer. Pancreatic, kidney and liver. Mayo Clinic got a lot of money from my family


Simpleton565

Born in Kossuth too. Everybody gets Cancer up there


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Elderberry4ever

It is for certain types of non-Hodgekins Lymphoma. Because of round up exposure


harrison_butker

the yields were worth it


Elderberry4ever

Nice shitposting, even if it is sarcastic


harrison_butker

Sarcastic / shitpost sure. but the people bitching about the shit now we’re the ones reaping the benefits of said practice by saying shit like that- now they get cancer and they want us to feel sorry for them. Risking health (yours and the surrounding area) over money shouldn’t be a hard lesson to learn but here we are. They insisted on this cause it would boost yields and boost profit. My uncle was too ornery to wear protection from chemicals while farming and died of HL and another type of cancer.. his life taken too soon because he thought the money made in life was more important than anything else, refused to fix or see it any other way. Damn stupid ask me. Humans are always quick to label things invasive when we really need to look at ourselves. We do all the shit to lead us into a corner than cry ‘woe is me’ when we get there. Don’t even get me started on what those ‘cancer chemicals’ do to drive the local drug industries..


ShadowsOfTheBreeze

Vote red if you want to be dead: "we don't need no stinking regulations or socialist healthcare!"


R3luctant

Read this in a kim Reynolds voice,  Cancer is just God ringing the dinner bell a little early for you.


HawkFritz

Kim Reynolds trusts ag corporations to do the right thing.


Embarrassed-Soil2016

Translation: Kim Reynolds is an idiot.


cannotrememberold

The free market will take care of it, because if a company kills everyone, they will be held accountable, except for where that is no longer legal.


Fun-Cauliflower-1724

we don't live in a free market in this country. We live in a corporate welfare state, where massive companies are subsidized by the taxpayers.


erfman

They have sacrifice zones in the United States and throughout the world, those people suffer the consequences so the one percent can live the good life


Van-garde

Extractivism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extractivism


CheshireCrackers

Iowa is basically an extraction economy now.


R3luctant

>farmer Do you see the perpetrator, yeah I'm right here. It isn't the sole reason but the amount of chemicals we are putting on our crops that are washing down into various drinking supplies probably isn't helping. I am not a doctor so please grab a grain of salt to take with this. 


1knightstands

>so please grab a grain of salt Is the salt organic at least?


R3luctant

I boil off my sweat for my salt sourcing


1knightstands

Ahh, so it’s tainted as fuck


snoopfrogcsr

Definitely going to find microplastics in that.


Bean-Swellington

Salt is actually *not* organic Is Iowa not doing chemistry in school anymore?


not_that_planet

Fun fact, I believe water and salt are the only non-organic compounds humans eat.


Narcan9

Check out the minerals on your multivitamin. There are several of them. Calcium phosphate in milk for example.


not_that_planet

True yes, you are correct. However I think the issue here is that (from your example) we get plenty of calcium and phosphate, along with other minerals from the foods we eat. The Standard American Diet (SAD) will give you enough salt because most of the packaged foods you buy in the supermarket are loaded with salt. That being said, I think the issue here is if you really switched to a "natural" foods diet - so nothing added to anything you eat, you would run the risk of a sodium deficiency which can be serious. I'm not 100%, but I believe humans need some salt, as opposed to other minerals because we get those elements elsewhere.


MeshNets

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1knightstands

My bean swelling man, [it is 100% organic.](https://www.google.com/search?q=sarcasm&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS851US851&oq=sarcasm&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDE0MDFqMGo5qAIAsAIB4gMEGAIgXw&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)


Bean-Swellington

False And fwiw, good jokes involve good science.


1knightstands

Bruh doesn’t know how to laugh at organic obsessed shoppers and have a little fun once in a while, lol. Hope you have a better day than the others around you


Kipio

Upvote for DOOM


cloudyoort

I will caveat that I don't live in Iowa anymore, but grew up there. I definitely remember a lot of the farm kids in high school how much they all hated the EPA and how all their regulations were "bullshit." Not just with pesticides, but also with livestock (feeding, water, waste). They've only relaxed regulations over the last several years. I think it will only get worse.


R3luctant

Well we have a governor who through action and inaction has weakened the DNR who would be able to inspect a lot of the agricultural transgressions that occur, so pretty much worse yeah.


walflour

![gif](giphy|7Eipor01ypMm3LeG4v|downsized)


stairs_3730

Or grab your ankles.


YajNivlac

Nope. It’s the windmills


UrbanSolace13

Cancer causing chemicals are sprayed on fields. They run off into rivers, streams, and ground water.


generic-affliction

Don’t forget they don’t just run off, a lot of the time the contaminated soil just blows away to invade everything.


cachemonet0x0cf6619

oh, that’s interesting to think about. i never did until now. thank you


Life-Celebration-747

They also use crop dusters, so it travels with the wind. All they care about is higher crop yields, money is more important than human lives.  Pro-Life, until you're born, then no one cares. 


snoopfrogcsr

If we sufficiently force the creation of human lives, then enough should survive to produce at the levels we need until they die too young, slowly, with nothing.


MNCPA

I watched an educational video about this exact issue in school ..... 3 decades ago.


Candid_Disk1925

Ditto.


VanGundy15

The same video that said the effects we are seeing today would be happening in 6 decades?


barronsprofiles

I may be wrong, but I believe more attention is being put on nitrogen use & how it impacts drinking water now more than pesticide exposure in the academic community. Especially for individuals who drink well water in rural communities. I’ve seen studies that indicate an increased risk at levels much lower than the legal limit.


TrumpDidNoDrugs

Are you counting hog shit as a chemical they spray on fields? Because iowas pig problem is likely the bigger culprit. Go look what happened in north Carolina before they decided being the hog capital in the USA wasn't worth it.


FluByYou

And yet they’ll still vote for cancer at the ballot box.


[deleted]

better to die a horrible painful expensive death then be a woke queer beer drinking socialist, my pappi always said.


Life-Celebration-747

I've lost my dad and step dad to cancer. My step mom is currently going thru chemo for multiple myeloma, which is not curable. I've had adenocarcinoma, my mom developed Alzheimer's, and my sister has rheumatoid arthritis. We have no family history of these diseases. We're being poisoned. 


AngryChalupaVendor

Won’t someone think of the shareholders?!


Digitallydust

Right here. The biggest tradeoff to doing something about this is that the huge vertically integrated companies would be slightly less valuable. *shudders* OR They continue to rake in billions from the value chain - leaving less and less for the farmers who actually do the work - while ALL Iowans pay the costs.


skoltroll

>EMMETSBURG, Iowa — Raised in rural Iowa, 71-year-old Maureen Reeves Horsley once considered her tiny hometown in the northwest part of the state to be a blessed space. She recalls a time when the streams here ran clean and the lake water was clear.  >The family farm where Horsley grew up was one of more than 1,200 farms in Palo Alto County in 1970.  In her memory, the county’s 13,000 residents enjoyed a thriving agricultural-based economy and close-knit neighbors. Cows grazed in verdant pastures. And seemingly endless acres of corn marched to the horizon.  The answers to which you seek are in the mirror.


BattleCryRy

Forgetting the chemicals, most older farmers I know have had skin cancer at some point in their lives from prolonged sun exposure


Psyclone09

Anecdotally my grandfather gets at least a few cancerous spots removed off his head each year and still either forgets/refuses to wear sun protection.


BadRabbit70

It catches up. My dad picked cotton as a kid. Fished out in the sun with minimal to no sunscreen. Got melanoma and fought it the remainder of his life. It eventually docked his ears, took most of his nose, got into his sinus, and drilled into his brain... and that was that. Wear your sun protection.


Psyclone09

I’m sorry to hear about your dad, that sounds terrible. My grandfather is old and stubborn and has some mental and physical ailments as well that may end up getting him sooner rather than later. I am a big advocate of sunscreen, sunglasses, going to the derm regularly and covering my skin when possible because I inherited his paleness.


BadRabbit70

It wasn't great. Thank you. Pasty is my middle name. I joke that I'm frog belly white. My wife's a redhead. We keep covered.


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Should probably cut regulations more and provide more tort reform in favor of multi billion dollar companies, that should help


HawkFritz

Have we tried rejecting federal funding that would help the poor and marginalized?


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Even if we have, we can always do it harder!!!


redbrick90

That will not help. Regulate the hell out of farming. It’s all major corporations anyway


oldcreaker

Waiting on states like Iowa and Florida to pass "don't say cancer" laws.


cprsavealife

Sssh. Don't give them any ideas.


vsyca

It's not there if you don't acknowledge it /s ![gif](giphy|5XELueHTZd3XCaMGbw|downsized)


SavvyTraveler10

Wasn’t there a huge pesticide spill earlier in the year that killed (est at the time) 750k fresh water fish and wildlife? Seems like the R’s have deregulated enough where it is a major concern at this point.


RayGetard69420

No it was liquid 32% that was spilled, which is a fertilizer and definitely not a pesticide


SavvyTraveler10

It’s called “liquid 32%” How does this have anything to do with the states deregulation of corporate policy and where are the repercussions for bad faith entities who openly polite the state?


RayGetard69420

It’s funny for layman like you to call for regulation of something that you have no knowledge of. At least pretend to know what you are talking about if you want to people to care or believe what you say


SavvyTraveler10

Oh I’m sorry, forgot you just want to be combative and avoid all the key points of an actual conversation. You know, Q & As? Common decency? And (a big one) committing value to progressing the conversation Forward. Here’s the link to the article. https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/05/07/clogged-line-led-to-massive-fertilizer-spill-to-east-nishnabotna-river/ Sorry the spill was NITROGEN FERTILIZER not PESTICIDE so sorry about that. That was a minimal detail less relevant to the 800k dead fish I was referring to in my comment.


RayGetard69420

How is it a minimal detail? It’s literally what caused all that damage lmao. I don’t how you can call me combative when I’m just pointing out the facts. If that upsets you perhaps you should see a therapist


PM_ME_YOUR-SCIENCE

I’ll just step in to say that I had not heard of this, and I appreciated Savvy sharing it, even if they did get one of the details wrong. I would also argue that it was, indeed, a minor detail, as the main point - which you also pointed out - was really the damage. Anyway, we are fortunately a rather intelligent species that can help each other out with such subtleties so that we can all learn and grow, so I thank you for whichever part of your comment was coming from that space! For whichever part was coming from the stick you seem to have up your ass, I do not. (I jest a bit, but also kinda fr…).


Separate-Pain4950

“Linus Solberg, Palo Alto County, Iowa, farmer and county supervisor, has asked area health authorities for assistance to understand the sources for disease and reducing risks. “ Linus turn around, the chemicals are in your pole shed. JFC


Commercial_Wind8212

deregulating clean air and water to own the libs. yer soaking in it.


dkinmn

Please understand that the Republican plan, right now, today, is to dismantle the EPA while simultaneously challenging the constitutionality of its existence in a court that will likely oblige them. Don't. Vote. For. Republicans.


redbrick90

The fat orange already tried that. Not going to happen.


dkinmn

That sort of attitude is exactly why it could.


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Kill enough landowners so foreign shell companies can buy up the fertile farmland..... Keep the donors happy-happy..... Keep blasting your feet with your vote......


Earl_of_69

The answer is in the voting booth. These idiots will keep voting for people who make It easier for pesticide runoff, and livestock sewage spills to go unchecked


JCButtBuddy

A friend's brother recently had a cancer that was very likely caused by Roundup. He still insists that it's perfectly safe because the manufacturer says that it's safe.


MitchellCumstijn

The GOP has given us the right to work (the absurd laws that give corporations incredible powers over labor) and the right to get cancer from hormones, pesticides, preservatives with limited legal protections for the consumer. Yet these are the anti-elitist and law and order people pushing for us common folk by putting all the incentives for profit in the hands of the establishment while pushing further laws for tax immunity for the top 5 percent.


Jaebeam

The price for privatizing profits and socializing costs. I mean, Farm subsidies, AMIRIGHT? I live in St. Paul, 3M fucked our drinking water and our lakes. Well, yours too! PFAS for everyone! Sorry for the cancer. I hope the victims get compensated more than their lawyers.


Kantaowns

I hung out with my mom the other day. She lives in a small IA town, surrounded by cornfields. Horrible fucking cornfields. On this particular breezy day, all the genius bailout babies, sorry, I mean farmers, were out spraying their cancer solutions. My mom and I had migraines for days. All windows closed. Didn't matter. It crept in through the AC or any cracks. Wonder where all the cancer comes from. Fucking shitty farmers with garbage practices BECAUSE CORN GUUUUUUD.


State6

That’s just a drop in the bucket. Food producers need to produce actual food, half the supply out there is empty in value. Way too many preservatives, and profit margins through the roof. Greed all around needs suppressed in a bad way. It’s all about the Benjamin’s.


DrHugh

Palo Alto county.


FalseMirage

I wonder if it might possibly be in some way connected to all the ag chems in the water, land, and air? Let’s take a look at the Gulf of Mexico for a clue.


JackKovack

There’s something wrong with the judicial system when it takes 7-12 years or more to take a fertilizer or seed company to court. They wait out the clock until you can’t pay the court costs anymore.


Bean-Swellington

Cancer is a liberal plot against capitalism. They’re just cancer actors looking for publicity. -Kim Reynolds, probably


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It's not rocket science. Chemicals are causing it. There seek answers no more.


Pompitis

Roundup.


Bean-Swellington

What, the republicans?


Pompitis

No. maga.


TryAgain024

It’s the same picture.


jefferyJEFFERYbaby

Probably not. More likely from fungicides and dicamba.


hoboninja

Like I hate Monsanto, but pretty much all scientific research into the effects of Glyphosate have proven it safe. Even the studies that found a possible link to cancer were like a half percent increased risk and was believed to be due to the surfactants in the product and not the glyphosate itself.


HawkeyeHoosier

Good article.


PrestigiousEvent7933

I'd be interested to see the data on the other counties. I am from one of the neighboring counties and it seems like we have a higher than expected cancer rate.


Unusual_Performer_15

Cancer caused by chemicals being sprayed on corn which is ultimately used to make over processed foods that cause a laundry list of other health problems.


Van-garde

“In a world where they give you a disease then sell your ass the antidote; that’s dumb.”


According-Green

Keep voting red and their love to roll back environmental and safety regulations to appease their corporate donors making it easier to poison your communities….but don’t act surprised or befuddled to why it’s happening. 🤦🏻‍♂️


lgmorrow

fertilizers and weed killers, insecticides ...in abundance and everywhere they go


titanunveiled

The vaXxX!!!!!!!!!!


vsyca

They really should do something about this if they wanna keep Iowa red for the next decade /s


ptahbaphomet

Here you have it, the rich don’t care as long as it’s not impacting their bottom line. Corporations will spend millions in convincing consumers cancer is good for you (and our profits) while spending millions more on politicians to shield them from lawsuits for poisoning our only habitable planet. One party loves power over people, the other party to gutless to do anything but “keep trying” and vote for us next election.


doddballer

They’re practically drinking Dicamba


Ihaveasmallwang

An Iowa farm county is part of the reason for cancer rate being 50% higher


[deleted]

Dunning Kruger Syndrome conservatives.


Shot_Campaign_5163

Ask Kim bet she don't care


Powderfinger60

The money the chemicals the greed. You mean there’s a price to pay?


Xyrus2000

You don't need to seek that hard.


TryAgain024

I’m sure voting for Republicans to further weaken or eliminate every environmental and health regulation, and ban every form of whistleblowing or investigative journalism will help though./s


dogmatum-dei

What ahole kept national average cancer stats? Trump will fix that after he closes down the CDC.


mt8675309

But republicans don’t need regulations…


PaulClarkLoadletter

I’ll just leave this here for anybody wondering how this could have happened. “I don’t know if it’s pesticide or electrical. We have all these windmills. I don’t know if it’s in the water. I have no idea.”


Ftank55

It's more common theory around here than I care to admit


redbrick90

Idiots


SendingTotsnPears

One word: Roundup


Iowa-Andy

For those blaming farming, how do you explain all of the row crop farming counties/states in the US that use the same chemicals, same processes, and don’t have the same cancer rates? You act like Iowa is the only state that sprays Roundup or puts down nitrogen fertilizer.


Tyklartheone

That's the fun part! We already are seeing a link everywhere else. "...This suggests that there may be factors in the agricultural environment that introduce immune system deficiencies." [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1518967/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1518967/) You all are killing yourselves and probably us too. Can stick your head in the sand about it as long as you want though. Not fooling anyone. Or if you are - Theyll be dead sooner or later anyway. Pretty sad you all race to throw cold water on blaming these corporations/chemicals even when it cuts your very own throats


Separate-Pain4950

P.A. county has especially sandy soil and a high water table. Recipe for disaster right there


meetthestoneflints

The article references a ranking of 25 counties with the highest cancer rates. Palo Alto is #2. Nebraska has 4 counties which I think it’s safe to assume they have heavy agriculture. I didn’t check all the others but many appear to be in agriculture heavy areas.


rachel-slur

Ok then what would you credit it to? Faulty genetics? Does everyone in Emmetsburg have the cancer gene? The character creation is set to health -100?


Iowa-Andy

Well, just off the top of my head I see a lot of older farmers with parts of their faces and arms and ears chopped off thanks to being in the sun all day without sunscreen. I see a lot of farm guys grabbing smokeless tobacco at Casey’s, chewing and Busch lite seem really popular with the farm crowd. I’m not going to deny ag chemicals are a factor, but I’m not seeing consistent increases in enough counties across the US to just say it’s the only cause. Maybe it’s our German pale skin genetics amplifying the issues? Who knows.


redbrick90

Are you serious?


Iowa-Andy

Yes I am. My daughter is an immunologist, I read a lot of papers on cancer and have a vested interest in it. There are many areas that have very similar agricultural demographics, but very different cancer rates. We must always remember that correlations must be flushed out carefully. The dementia links are stronger in my opinion, but only time will tell.


heinkenskywalkr

One word: Radon.


Verumsemper

When politicians try to regulate the chemicals and protect people and the environment, these people vote them out. It breaks my heart for them but this is what they voted for.


1like64fun

Hmm. Sure it has nothing to do with farm chemicals, though!


redbrick90

Profits over people. Because murica. Fuck Iowa


redbrick90

Iowa needs some California style regulations.


Zito101101

County has one of the smallest populations in Iowa the whole county under 9,000 Most are older people and when you have to die from something cancer comes into play Not rocket science In the sun not using protection Around cancer causing chemicals in high concentrations. God be with them


Digitallydust

Big THANK YOU to OP for posting the article as a link and using the headline as your subject. Seriously I hate editorialized nonsense rather than the actual article headline. And I hate even more when they text post and link the article. Banning that shit would be my first move if I were mod for a day.


Beau_Weston

Um.. so.. just a shot in the dark here, but has anyone considered looking into the possibility that a good portion of this increase is related to Radon?


old_Spivey

Simple: Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS)


Prior-Soil

My dad is 83. On our family farm he said grandpa would spray chemicals and immediately bugs would die (1950s). Birds would eat the bugs, fly off, and then die or fly like they were drunk. Grandpa died of cancer. Dad just had cancer. Mom died of cancer. We are all doomed.


bftrollin402

Im gonna take a wild guess and say it has *nothing* to do with pesticides 🤡


CallMeLazarus23

“What is RoundUp in the aquifers?” Alex Trebek- “That is correct, let’s see how much you wagered?” “Everything”


fr33bird317

Yea GOP


Bagokid

Add Radon to the list. Iowa is also filled with basements filled with radon gas. Recommend action level is 4 pCi/L and is equal to 8 cigarettes a day or 200 X-rays a year. My house was 24 when we moved in. Previous owner died of cancer.


Frank_N20

Kudos to Ms. Horsley. As an nurse practitioner, she must know what she's doing, and we need a cleaner environment for our health.


rockyplace24

Maybe your god is telling you to be more like Jesus and less like trump


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