I personally feel like the hatred to the new songs is unwarranted. I get that they are not the original recordings, but they aren’t bad. It’s still great to hear Johnny again, and It’s never a bad thing to get new listeners. And most importantly, however Johnny and June would feel about all of this, they would hate it even more to hear all the hate towards their kid.
I'd be down for both, but if you're gonna say "Well Alright" doesn't sound like those original johnny songs, that's just a lie. Fits into the catalog perfectly
I'm also glad they aren't AI lol, I understand that but considering the originals are perfectly fine to be released why aren't they? It's because John's untalented son wants to make easy money and have his name on his father's work and pass it off as "unreleased" music.
What John Carter has done to these songs is awful, Johnny hated when Sam Phillips messed around with his music and now his own song is literally doing the same exact thing!
Anyone can take Johnny Cash's voice from a song and put it over the instrumental to something else and say it's unreleased and that is exactly what John Carter is doing and will keep doing while the original recordings will never see the light.
Hank sure didn't do it this way!
No, Hank didn’t do it this way. You’re right in that they could’ve just released them the way Johnny recorded them, but I suspect they felt modern audiences wouldn’t like that. Maybe they thought the stripped down original would be boring. I disagree, but maybe that’s what they thought.
I think JCC is very much protecting Cash’s legacy, and he’s doing so exactly the way he feels is best. That seems to be playing down truthful history and playing up the redeemed image that was rebuilt during the American era. I.e., Cash was always a creative force, it was the powers around him that did him wrong.
Of course, anyone with a knowledge of Cash’s catalogue knows that isn’t true. Johnny never stopped creating, but he certainly carries a large portion of the blame for his decline.
Out Among the Stars and Songwriter clearly attempt to revise that history. First, Stars ignored the fact that the abandoned album’s single - Chicken in Black - was released and became an embarrassment to Cash. So the “found” album gets a black and white cover and a dark remix by Elvis Costello to make it seem closer to Rubin, when it had nothing to do with 90s Cash at all. It was just another middle of the road Cash album that everyone knew at the time would have no commercial impact.
Now, what about Songwriter? I’ve been a fan of the four known songs for years. The band was stripped back to a trio plus Cash, and the songwriting was good. But these weren’t earth-shattering by any means. And after a Christmas album that Mercury wouldn’t touch and a gospel movie and album only Billy Graham wanted, no one was interested in another middle of the road Cash album, even if the songs themselves were half decent. So the demos went nowhere.
I agree that the new recordings add virtually nothing. They’re just a way of drumming up attention. But it’s not like these new backings are anything special themselves. They’re just more middle of the road dated Country.
The original tracks are the kind of thing that should have been in the Mercury box, along with all the abandoned songs recorded from in Cash’s first year there. But rather than actually serving as an interesting archival piece, that box set just gathered the already released material. Too bad. I miss the days when Song Legacy paid attention to Cash. They released quality archival releases for Cash.
A lot of us didn't start listening until after he died or weren't even born yet
so it's nice to be able to listen to a song by him the day it came out
But I also see where you're coming from I wouldn't say they sound "horrendous" but it's also not his best work hints why it didn't get released
Overall you got to think what would Johnny want and the problem is you don't know what he wanted so I can't really have an opinion
also I don't think June Carter is that bad especially the duets with Johnny I LOVE the song it "ain't me baby"
Johnny was a creative force he fell down and got up again so many times with lots of support from his family that’s his legacy and the Man in Blacks forever message to me.
I personally feel like the hatred to the new songs is unwarranted. I get that they are not the original recordings, but they aren’t bad. It’s still great to hear Johnny again, and It’s never a bad thing to get new listeners. And most importantly, however Johnny and June would feel about all of this, they would hate it even more to hear all the hate towards their kid.
They sound pretty good to me dude. Idk what you're on about
Would rather listen to what John left behind instead of what his son had turned them into.
I'd be down for both, but if you're gonna say "Well Alright" doesn't sound like those original johnny songs, that's just a lie. Fits into the catalog perfectly
Johnny’s been dead for 20 years. People will take anything connected to him. I’m just glad they’re not AI.
I'm also glad they aren't AI lol, I understand that but considering the originals are perfectly fine to be released why aren't they? It's because John's untalented son wants to make easy money and have his name on his father's work and pass it off as "unreleased" music. What John Carter has done to these songs is awful, Johnny hated when Sam Phillips messed around with his music and now his own song is literally doing the same exact thing! Anyone can take Johnny Cash's voice from a song and put it over the instrumental to something else and say it's unreleased and that is exactly what John Carter is doing and will keep doing while the original recordings will never see the light. Hank sure didn't do it this way!
No, Hank didn’t do it this way. You’re right in that they could’ve just released them the way Johnny recorded them, but I suspect they felt modern audiences wouldn’t like that. Maybe they thought the stripped down original would be boring. I disagree, but maybe that’s what they thought.
Nope! To simply put it John Carter Cash wants to make easy money from whatever he can, he doesn't care or protect his father's legacy at all.
Well I’m not sure about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
I think JCC is very much protecting Cash’s legacy, and he’s doing so exactly the way he feels is best. That seems to be playing down truthful history and playing up the redeemed image that was rebuilt during the American era. I.e., Cash was always a creative force, it was the powers around him that did him wrong. Of course, anyone with a knowledge of Cash’s catalogue knows that isn’t true. Johnny never stopped creating, but he certainly carries a large portion of the blame for his decline. Out Among the Stars and Songwriter clearly attempt to revise that history. First, Stars ignored the fact that the abandoned album’s single - Chicken in Black - was released and became an embarrassment to Cash. So the “found” album gets a black and white cover and a dark remix by Elvis Costello to make it seem closer to Rubin, when it had nothing to do with 90s Cash at all. It was just another middle of the road Cash album that everyone knew at the time would have no commercial impact. Now, what about Songwriter? I’ve been a fan of the four known songs for years. The band was stripped back to a trio plus Cash, and the songwriting was good. But these weren’t earth-shattering by any means. And after a Christmas album that Mercury wouldn’t touch and a gospel movie and album only Billy Graham wanted, no one was interested in another middle of the road Cash album, even if the songs themselves were half decent. So the demos went nowhere. I agree that the new recordings add virtually nothing. They’re just a way of drumming up attention. But it’s not like these new backings are anything special themselves. They’re just more middle of the road dated Country. The original tracks are the kind of thing that should have been in the Mercury box, along with all the abandoned songs recorded from in Cash’s first year there. But rather than actually serving as an interesting archival piece, that box set just gathered the already released material. Too bad. I miss the days when Song Legacy paid attention to Cash. They released quality archival releases for Cash.
A lot of us didn't start listening until after he died or weren't even born yet so it's nice to be able to listen to a song by him the day it came out But I also see where you're coming from I wouldn't say they sound "horrendous" but it's also not his best work hints why it didn't get released Overall you got to think what would Johnny want and the problem is you don't know what he wanted so I can't really have an opinion also I don't think June Carter is that bad especially the duets with Johnny I LOVE the song it "ain't me baby"
Johnny was a creative force he fell down and got up again so many times with lots of support from his family that’s his legacy and the Man in Blacks forever message to me.