I think it's the adrenaline rush from a power dynamic that results in this. Regardless of who has the power, a power dynamic is an often sought-after feeling during sex for guys.
It truly is. It’s ruined marriage and intimacy and created such a warped idea of actual sex. We collectively kind of just pretend it’s not there at the level it is. We pretend it’s not a pervasive virus. I don’t know what the solution is as I tent to fall in the “libertarian” set of values and attitude but man it’s really off the rails.
It's one reason that I suspect the ten-year battle between my libertarian brain-half and my trad-Catholic brain-half will eventually be won by the trad. I can't deny the evidence of my own eyes. Falling testosterone levels, rising mental problems among men, declining marriage and birth rates, not to mention how porn addiction always redoubles on itself and often leds men into darker and darker territory looking for new highs, new novelties. There is more to Liberty than license.
It needs to be campaigned against much more than it is. I fall on the libertarian side too so I don't think banning is the answer but everyone knows how shit smoking is despite it being legal, porn is often not just ignored, it's promoted as healthy by many.
The fact I'm getting down voted hard for talking about the abuse that sex trafficking victims suffer while being forced to participate in the porn industry....speaks loudly to the kind of men In this sub.
> I am the victim - Check
Its pretty hard to deny that trafficked sex workers forced to act in pornography are bigger victims than chronic viewers with unrealistic ideals and/or sexual dysfunction as a result of consuming pornography are.
These are all very legitimate problems within the porn industry, and because of it. But it’s not the porn that is the problem itself, it’s the prohibition of it in varying degrees. If it’s was fully legal and not taboo, and sex workers had unions and protections, then women (and men!) wouldn’t be put in such vulnerable and a lot of times dangerous situations.
It wouldn't matter if it was legal. There would still be "teen" geared categories that glorify abuse of underage women and men. There would still be violent depictions that glorify abuse of your partner. The types of people watching and and being influenced by it will not be stopping to ask their victims if they are consenting. Even if the participants of the porn were all willing actors, the people being influenced by it would still have unreal expectations because of it.
And even if it was legal, there would still be people being trafficked and forced to participate unwillingly.
I have read how oppressive regimes disseminate porn into the populations of the people they rule, to make their minds dull and less inclined to fight back.
Eh, where have you read that? Sounds like complete conspiracy theory, especially considering oppressive regimes are by definition actively repressing personal freedoms, sexuality related activity included.
There’s no proof it ever happened, and even if it did, it’s a micro-event from 20 years ago which can hardly be used to make any generalizations about “repressive regimes’” usage of porn…
Lol, so there’s one non-confirmed pseudo event from 2002 in which Israeli soldiers supposedly put a couple porn programs on Palestinian TV for a day (which is Palestine’s claim at least, as Israel denies it and there is no proof for it)… and your conclusion from that is “I read how repressive regimes disseminate porn in the populations of people they rule to make their minds dull”? Are you retarded or what?
The fact your comment has been this upvoted shows this sub’s been bleeding from the more intellectual JBP fans elsewhere, probably due to the absolutely appalling moderation of political posts which have nothing to do with JBP to start with but are left here unchecked.
They are not as bad because those are clearly defined vices. Porn has been normalized. Engrained in our everyday life. You can’t go on any social media sites without exposure to softcore pornography. Exposure to porn in everyday life is almost guaranteed at this point.
The softer stuff should be censored better on public social media for sure. We also definitely need to classify it as a vice more clearly (not sure how that would work exactly), and destigmatize admitting having a compulsion with it and getting help.
All that being said, it's existed in some form for as long as most of the other vices I've listed. Adults need to have the freedom to engage with it or abstain. Some people have a bad relationship with it. However, don't believe that's the majority. Or even an amount where I think it needs to be banned and scrubbed from the internet.
This is like saying because we know people ate honey a millenia ago, obesity must have always been a problem. The accessibility and abundance is sooooo much different from cave paintings.
I wholeheartedly disagree. There never existed a period prior to now that you could be in bed and pull up porn in 2 seconds on your phone. This is different. You have access to the most vile content at the tip of your fingers on command.
Not just videos.
That’s why it’s worse now. It has never been this easily accessible ever. People didn’t have a magic machine in their pocket that could pull up whatever they wanted instantly.
Dude’s not saying jerking off isn’t new or natural or normal, but that porn can seriously mess people’s lives over, especially the “teenager[s]” involved in this shit.
How the hell is it the most commonly searched for word for men on porn sites being ephebophelic, at best, is not an outrageous and devastating critique on the status of our society?
Virtually all adult men are ephebophilic. A cross cultural survey of adult males found that men rate teen girls between 16-19 as most beautiful. This was true for African Hunter gatherer men who found 16 year olds most sexually attractive and for western men in a post industrial society, who rated 19 year olds as most attractive.
Stop pathologizing male sexuality.
You're not going to fry your brain's reward circuits by looking at pottery. An endless stream of pornographic video on the other hand is just about the worst thing you can do for dopamine circuits outside of binging on recreational drugs.
Pretty sure no one was getting abused back when it was just drawings on cave walls though.
Edit to clarify : meaning that no one was having videos of their rape being monetized for the masses. Because it was stick figures on the walls. Obviously sexual assault has always been around.
The fact that we are now more aware of ethics and the harm being caused yet Still allow the production and dissemination of pornography that glorifies children being abused (regardless if the "actors" are of age and playing younger. The idea is that it's an underage child getting fked) is way more disturbing than anything done in the past. We KNOW it is wrong. We KNOW it's unacceptable. And yet. We are still glorifying rape and child sexual assault.
You say these people in the porn are willing but there have been many many women men and children who have spoken out about being trafficked and forced to participate in the porn industry. For every"willing" actor there are countless people who are forced.
Just because some men and women are making a buck and happy to fk doesn't excuse the thousands of victims that are forced Into that industry.
We were specifically talking about pornography involving children. The original post spoke to the fact that the MOST searched porn titles include "teen"
I never said anything about literature or art. I'm speaking specifically about Video/photography porn.
Sex trafficking and porn go hand in hand. It's not a fringe idea. It's happening every day. Are you really so naive that you think ALL those people just WANT to be fked day In and day out? That they are ALL getting compensated. That they ALL consent?
Teens aren’t children. Do you think a 17 year old is the same as a 7 year old?
If you get this worked up about preferred male porn searches, you’ll go crazy when you find out that repeated cross cultural surveys of adult males find that teen girls, 16-19, are most sexually attractive. And I don’t have to tell you that men prioritize sexual attractiveness in a partner a lot more than women do.
The first country to legalize porn was Denmark, and that was in 1969. There was some clandestinely produced porn before that (in written, drawn, and photographic forms), but it wasn't easy to come by.
A lot of the early visual depictions of sex you're probably thinking of were primarily created for artistic or cultural purposes, not as wank material.
The widespread availability and volume of porn produced in the last 50 years is historically unprecedented.
I agree that SM is an issue but I think SM is a gateway to pornography. Most social media sites have become nothing more than soft-core pornography blogs. “Influencers” are praised for wearing scandalous clothing and promoting promiscuous activity. They shill their OnlyFans accounts, preying on the natural male attraction to females.
Sure, you could argue that men should have that natural instinct under control. I agree, MEN should be able to handle this. The problem is when you have children and teenagers, who are going through significant mental and physical changes, being exposed to this. Their brains get fucked as a result. Those children then have a hard time once they become men.
There aren’t many studies on this yet because we’ve only had one generation grow up with a mobile device, which you are attached to, that can pull up the most disgusting sexual images imaginable.
The long-term impact this is going to have to our humanity is going to be horrible. Many people will completely lack the ability to have an intimate relationship because they have associated sexual behavior with what they have seen on a screen over a period of multiple years.
I can not disagree with you there, however the damages of porn before the internet was vastly less severe. Every argument one could make in the negative of porn could also be attributed to social media, but i feel like the majority of the issues were facing as a society are compounded by the fact that there is an audience for its absurdity.
You’re left with a chicken egg situation with the proverbial “Does life imitate art; it does art imitate life?” The question is evermore persistent with the inception of SM. And is almost the death of individuality and the source for hive mind group think. The known damages are enumerable and the cryptic or future found damages are sure to be magnanimous by the most conservative metrics or measures.
Not an expert on this at all. But, i feel like lesbian/bi women sorta mimick the way straight men are sexually attracted to women, That is extraordinarily Visual. And straight women mostly prefer reading pornography, because mental stimuli is very important in female sexuality. So they not on pornhub, they're probably reading Wattpad or sumn.
Also don’t forget that “10%” of people that have the typically opposite sex temperament (so women, still straight who have male temperaments) that Dr.Peterson speculates about.
Maybe although I heard that lesbian women’s still mimic the “typical” woman strategies and approach. I can’t remember where and I wish I did.
I’d definitely love to see more information on both groups because I too am not an expert.
As a lesbian, no, absolutely not. My attraction works the exact same as straight women. If we do want porn we mostly just want something real. We want a connection between the couple, we want to see the love between the two. Intimacy matters a LOT to us. A lot of us just mostly end up skipping porn anyway. I know I only watch once ever 2 months but usually end up uninterested.
Lesbian women are actually very unlikely to watch lesbian porn, the LEAST likely out of any woman. It’s straight women who make up the majority of lesbian porn viewership amongst women. As a lesbian I’ve never met a single lesbian who watches lesbian porn, it’s honestly more amusing than arousing because it’s so terrible.
I wish I could say I was surprised. Porn is a rot on society and creates unreal expectations for sexual encounters in general.
No wonder there are so many sexual offenders targeting young people.
Idk I hear these comments about unrealistic expectations around sex and I honestly do not get it. Baffled. Are you all just not talking to your partners about what you want? Not willing to make things happen for them as they are for you? Not sacrificing a little personal time in the gym to be as attractive as you want for each other? I truly believe you can have your cake and eat it too with enough communication and clear boundaries. I’ve got friends with concerns about toys even… I truly don’t understand it. Why be with someone who isn’t as down to please you as you are them? Why NOT make your sex life joyful and varied? Can you really not express your desires honestly to your partner? So what if they or you want to do some weird stuff you saw online? You can have your trad life and a hell of a time rocking each others worlds too, and I wouldn’t want anything less. Happily been with my spouse over a decade now, it just keeps getting better. TALK.
My sex life is awesome. But if my husband enjoyed watching teen girls get forcibly abused and raped by a gang of dudes in a van, I'd have issues with that...
You'd be concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy......?
Re read your statement and come again sir.
Watching something like child porn and getting off on it forms connections in your brain. It's like positive reinforcement of a bad habit. Eventually those connections are solidified to a point when that is the only thing you can get off on. At some point watching videos won't be enough and you'll end up victimizing a child yourself instead of just WATCHING a child be victimized. Which is bad enough. If you honestly think no one is being hurt by CSA porn your either a pervert with no moral compass or just completely incapable of rational thought
You’re putting words in my mouth from your own ideas in both your examples. Further you are dehumanizing me without grounds on conditions you raised yourself. You are also implying a higher morality on zero substance - an advantageous comparison when the subject wasn’t even at hand. You can surely do better than these moral disengagements.
I said I’d be more concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy than the content observed.
What is hard to understand about that for you? I don’t care what porn she watches if she knows the difference between fantasy and reality - and I trust as an adult, she does. Does reordering help?
You’re creating the parameters to argue from, and then trying to fight me on an easily assailable position instead of the observation I made. No one’s arguing for rape or CP, I don’t know why your mind goes there, but that’s yours, not mine.
Looks like you blocked me just after posting your last comment bellow. Bravo. Real contribution to human reasoning you’ve made here. We’ve all grown.
You keep saying "I'd be more concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy".... meaning you don't want her to be able to tell the difference between reality from fantasy....do you even read what you type or are you really just this dense?
And If your SO was watching child porn...thats against the law in most places....so I'd hope you wouldn't be condoning that on any grounds. CSA is a crime you Dbag.
>No wonder there are so many sexual offenders targeting young people.
I'd venture a guess that there are less of these offenders active these days, than days before porn. I'd guess catharsis plays a role. Humans suck.
Likely there are more since more people have access to material that is geared towards abuse of minors. It gives them the idea that it is ok, normal, acceptable. Eventually they will act on their fantasies.
We can only guess, though I'd guess people got away with much more back in the day, there were no recognized children's rights, and predators had no form of catharsis.
Yes but back then, when you caught a predator assaulting your child or your wife or your sister or mother. You could kill them without consequences. No one got upset when a rapist got their just deserts back then.
I think life for a sexual predator is much harder now than ever before. Nowhere to hide. You also had widespread slavery where people did what they wanted with slaves.
Separate from a discussion about pornography, why is an older individual showing sexual preference of a younger individual a bad thing? Younger women have a higher probability of having more child-rearing years left
It is perfectly easy to understand from a biological approach: Male desire female who has the best chance to bear children (high fertility), hence, young female. Teenagers are the youngest possible since they just finished puberty, and their fertility is the highest. This make them attractive to male in general.
Throughout the world, for most of human history, the marriage age is relative low. For example, Ancient Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old (groom 14 years old). It is estimated that the average age of marriage is around 18-22 for both genders (The number is 32+ nowadays)
Bur you understand that there are no 15yo people in PH videos. As for the term “teenagers” it may just be a convenient way to search for younger actresses. And it also may be because creators put in tags and user have to search using those tags.
Idk man. Porn is shit anyway. Its just arguing about degrees of shit.
I disagree with you. It is perfectly natural for males to desire young females. Just take a look from a biological approach: Male desire female who has the best chance to bear children (high fertility), hence, young female. Teenagers are the youngest possible since they just finished puberty, and their fertility is the highest. In another word, male has primal evolutionary desire to mate with female at their most fertile age.
Throughout the world, for most of human history, the marriage age is relative low. For example, Ancient Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old (groom 14 years old). It is estimated that the average age of marriage is around 18-22 for both genders (The number is 32+ nowadays)
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Clearly, the members of this subreddit are getting increasingly prudish. Turning into a bunch of pearl clutchers. Clearly, “teen” in the context of Pornhub is referring to 18-19 year old adults. Why people here are making into something it’s not is strange.
Let’s be honest, if I watched a teen porn video only to find out later that the actress is 15 and not 18, it’s not like men would suddenly lose their boners and be crying about it.
15 vs 18 doesn’t matter at all for sex drive, they’re both sexy ages to be at.
In Freudian psychology; I'd say society is stuck in a phalic state of its psychosexual development. If you think about it, the misdirected libido is one hell of a force both economically and socially. It also allows for sexual deviance to the point where making love is now the sought act of reliving a video one once saw.
In Jungian Psychology, I'd say it's led to anima possession on men and animus possession in woman. It absolutely frighting to realize the after effects of pornography being one's first introduction to sex, which puts the first brick in that treacherous road to hell.
I’m guessing the second most searched for term by women is “massive bulbous pulsating steel-stiffened flesh rod that will make my co-worker jealous”. Just a hunch. 🤣
Probably alot of unmarried guys in their teens and early 20’s with no girlfriends, dating is hard nowadays. Alot of women say they dont want or need men anymore. I would bet that if more women actually wanted to commit to relationships, or even be approached by a man for that matter, men wouldn’t be watching as much porn as they would have no need to do so. Also there are men that have had bad experiences with women and dont want to have to deal with another bad experience and wind up like people they grew up with getting 12 divorces. In the old days men went to prostitutes, now they dont have to.
Lmao should have expected that. Me and the wife rarely watch porn but when we do it's lesbians. Not the teenage part thou even though most of the videos they look pretty young. I guess you could never really know for sure.
I know many people will post great arguments here, then after sometime, go back to searching the categories.
This right here is the problem - humanity faces - irrespective of religion or country.
Teen is the most searched for men, but MILF is the second most searched. Weird. I guess that averages to 30 or something.
I think it's the adrenaline rush from a power dynamic that results in this. Regardless of who has the power, a power dynamic is an often sought-after feeling during sex for guys.
Porn is the worst thing to happen to mankind.
It truly is. It’s ruined marriage and intimacy and created such a warped idea of actual sex. We collectively kind of just pretend it’s not there at the level it is. We pretend it’s not a pervasive virus. I don’t know what the solution is as I tent to fall in the “libertarian” set of values and attitude but man it’s really off the rails.
It's one reason that I suspect the ten-year battle between my libertarian brain-half and my trad-Catholic brain-half will eventually be won by the trad. I can't deny the evidence of my own eyes. Falling testosterone levels, rising mental problems among men, declining marriage and birth rates, not to mention how porn addiction always redoubles on itself and often leds men into darker and darker territory looking for new highs, new novelties. There is more to Liberty than license.
I empathize with this, but banning it isn’t a tenable solution
Oh it absolutely is
No
It needs to be campaigned against much more than it is. I fall on the libertarian side too so I don't think banning is the answer but everyone knows how shit smoking is despite it being legal, porn is often not just ignored, it's promoted as healthy by many.
My answer would get me banned
Speak the truth or fuck off...
I’m guessing he’s saying porn is intentionally being used to have a negative impact on people and it may be a certain group of people pushing it.
Pm me now im curious
I’m also curious, pm me?
Curious also, but have an idea who you're taking about. I guarantee you there's a subreddit for it.
The fact I'm getting down voted hard for talking about the abuse that sex trafficking victims suffer while being forced to participate in the porn industry....speaks loudly to the kind of men In this sub.
Porn is bad for the viewers too.
I agree. It produces unreal expectations.
cant have anyone with expectations! healthy at any size tee hee
Ew. No. People are not healthy at any size. Obese people are basically the walking dead.
Quiet u
It’s the worst thing for anyone involved. Something that shouldn’t exist
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> I am the victim - Check Its pretty hard to deny that trafficked sex workers forced to act in pornography are bigger victims than chronic viewers with unrealistic ideals and/or sexual dysfunction as a result of consuming pornography are.
Aw....did some woman hurt your little feelings? Let me get you a btch sticker for your booboo
Poisonous females like you aren't worth my time. Blocked bitch!
These are all very legitimate problems within the porn industry, and because of it. But it’s not the porn that is the problem itself, it’s the prohibition of it in varying degrees. If it’s was fully legal and not taboo, and sex workers had unions and protections, then women (and men!) wouldn’t be put in such vulnerable and a lot of times dangerous situations.
It wouldn't matter if it was legal. There would still be "teen" geared categories that glorify abuse of underage women and men. There would still be violent depictions that glorify abuse of your partner. The types of people watching and and being influenced by it will not be stopping to ask their victims if they are consenting. Even if the participants of the porn were all willing actors, the people being influenced by it would still have unreal expectations because of it. And even if it was legal, there would still be people being trafficked and forced to participate unwillingly.
Hey can I message you about something? Need an honest take from a female.
Sure. I'm at work but will respond when I can!
I have read how oppressive regimes disseminate porn into the populations of the people they rule, to make their minds dull and less inclined to fight back.
Eh, where have you read that? Sounds like complete conspiracy theory, especially considering oppressive regimes are by definition actively repressing personal freedoms, sexuality related activity included.
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There’s no proof it ever happened, and even if it did, it’s a micro-event from 20 years ago which can hardly be used to make any generalizations about “repressive regimes’” usage of porn…
Yeah I call bullshit
Porn run on seized TV channels, say residents Google those words
Google this "Porn run on seized TV channels, say residents" and keep scrolling down the results of that search
Lol, so there’s one non-confirmed pseudo event from 2002 in which Israeli soldiers supposedly put a couple porn programs on Palestinian TV for a day (which is Palestine’s claim at least, as Israel denies it and there is no proof for it)… and your conclusion from that is “I read how repressive regimes disseminate porn in the populations of people they rule to make their minds dull”? Are you retarded or what? The fact your comment has been this upvoted shows this sub’s been bleeding from the more intellectual JBP fans elsewhere, probably due to the absolutely appalling moderation of political posts which have nothing to do with JBP to start with but are left here unchecked.
Doesnt sound right at all. Oppressive regimes want their army to be fighting hard. But the US absolutely spreads porn among enemy armies
I disagree. It's another thing that has an addictive quality to it. Are heroin, gambling, cocaine, alcohol, nicotine not as bad or worse?
They are not as bad because those are clearly defined vices. Porn has been normalized. Engrained in our everyday life. You can’t go on any social media sites without exposure to softcore pornography. Exposure to porn in everyday life is almost guaranteed at this point.
The softer stuff should be censored better on public social media for sure. We also definitely need to classify it as a vice more clearly (not sure how that would work exactly), and destigmatize admitting having a compulsion with it and getting help. All that being said, it's existed in some form for as long as most of the other vices I've listed. Adults need to have the freedom to engage with it or abstain. Some people have a bad relationship with it. However, don't believe that's the majority. Or even an amount where I think it needs to be banned and scrubbed from the internet.
A very bad thing? Sure. The WORST thing? I'm not so sure about that...
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This is like saying because we know people ate honey a millenia ago, obesity must have always been a problem. The accessibility and abundance is sooooo much different from cave paintings.
Two circles and two dots on the walls of ancient caves baby.
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It has never been as easily accessible as it is now. Ever. It’s a product for the masses at this point
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I wholeheartedly disagree. There never existed a period prior to now that you could be in bed and pull up porn in 2 seconds on your phone. This is different. You have access to the most vile content at the tip of your fingers on command.
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Not just videos. That’s why it’s worse now. It has never been this easily accessible ever. People didn’t have a magic machine in their pocket that could pull up whatever they wanted instantly.
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Dude’s not saying jerking off isn’t new or natural or normal, but that porn can seriously mess people’s lives over, especially the “teenager[s]” involved in this shit. How the hell is it the most commonly searched for word for men on porn sites being ephebophelic, at best, is not an outrageous and devastating critique on the status of our society?
Virtually all adult men are ephebophilic. A cross cultural survey of adult males found that men rate teen girls between 16-19 as most beautiful. This was true for African Hunter gatherer men who found 16 year olds most sexually attractive and for western men in a post industrial society, who rated 19 year olds as most attractive. Stop pathologizing male sexuality.
You're not going to fry your brain's reward circuits by looking at pottery. An endless stream of pornographic video on the other hand is just about the worst thing you can do for dopamine circuits outside of binging on recreational drugs.
The Romans, Aztecs and ancient Hindu civilizations are all gone. Not saying that porn caused their demise but……
Somehow I doubt Aztec, Roman, and Hindu men spent so much time staring at pottery it left them incapable of forming real relationships.
Pretty sure no one was getting abused back when it was just drawings on cave walls though. Edit to clarify : meaning that no one was having videos of their rape being monetized for the masses. Because it was stick figures on the walls. Obviously sexual assault has always been around.
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The fact that we are now more aware of ethics and the harm being caused yet Still allow the production and dissemination of pornography that glorifies children being abused (regardless if the "actors" are of age and playing younger. The idea is that it's an underage child getting fked) is way more disturbing than anything done in the past. We KNOW it is wrong. We KNOW it's unacceptable. And yet. We are still glorifying rape and child sexual assault. You say these people in the porn are willing but there have been many many women men and children who have spoken out about being trafficked and forced to participate in the porn industry. For every"willing" actor there are countless people who are forced. Just because some men and women are making a buck and happy to fk doesn't excuse the thousands of victims that are forced Into that industry.
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We were specifically talking about pornography involving children. The original post spoke to the fact that the MOST searched porn titles include "teen" I never said anything about literature or art. I'm speaking specifically about Video/photography porn. Sex trafficking and porn go hand in hand. It's not a fringe idea. It's happening every day. Are you really so naive that you think ALL those people just WANT to be fked day In and day out? That they are ALL getting compensated. That they ALL consent?
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Teens aren’t children. Do you think a 17 year old is the same as a 7 year old? If you get this worked up about preferred male porn searches, you’ll go crazy when you find out that repeated cross cultural surveys of adult males find that teen girls, 16-19, are most sexually attractive. And I don’t have to tell you that men prioritize sexual attractiveness in a partner a lot more than women do.
13 is a teen. It's like Epstein Pedophilia. It's more gross to be looking up "Teen" than it is "Lesbian"
“Teen” in the context of Pornhub is obviously referring to 18-19 year olds.
The first country to legalize porn was Denmark, and that was in 1969. There was some clandestinely produced porn before that (in written, drawn, and photographic forms), but it wasn't easy to come by. A lot of the early visual depictions of sex you're probably thinking of were primarily created for artistic or cultural purposes, not as wank material. The widespread availability and volume of porn produced in the last 50 years is historically unprecedented.
Naw. Hard disagree.
It should just be standard positions and more equal power dynamic. Messes people up and a lot of it is just plain weird
To your point, 99% of porn is lacking intimacy entirely. That’s a huge problem. It makes it dehumanizing.
Yep, can't help but feel sorry for these girls
porn is cool like its literrally just us showing one another something that is very pleasurable and fun.
based take\^\^
This guy just declared his own comment "based"
If by worst you mean best. Humanity is the worst thing that’s happened to humanity
Only teens can save us now
I would argue social media is far worse
I agree that SM is an issue but I think SM is a gateway to pornography. Most social media sites have become nothing more than soft-core pornography blogs. “Influencers” are praised for wearing scandalous clothing and promoting promiscuous activity. They shill their OnlyFans accounts, preying on the natural male attraction to females. Sure, you could argue that men should have that natural instinct under control. I agree, MEN should be able to handle this. The problem is when you have children and teenagers, who are going through significant mental and physical changes, being exposed to this. Their brains get fucked as a result. Those children then have a hard time once they become men. There aren’t many studies on this yet because we’ve only had one generation grow up with a mobile device, which you are attached to, that can pull up the most disgusting sexual images imaginable. The long-term impact this is going to have to our humanity is going to be horrible. Many people will completely lack the ability to have an intimate relationship because they have associated sexual behavior with what they have seen on a screen over a period of multiple years.
I can not disagree with you there, however the damages of porn before the internet was vastly less severe. Every argument one could make in the negative of porn could also be attributed to social media, but i feel like the majority of the issues were facing as a society are compounded by the fact that there is an audience for its absurdity. You’re left with a chicken egg situation with the proverbial “Does life imitate art; it does art imitate life?” The question is evermore persistent with the inception of SM. And is almost the death of individuality and the source for hive mind group think. The known damages are enumerable and the cryptic or future found damages are sure to be magnanimous by the most conservative metrics or measures.
Not an expert on this at all. But, i feel like lesbian/bi women sorta mimick the way straight men are sexually attracted to women, That is extraordinarily Visual. And straight women mostly prefer reading pornography, because mental stimuli is very important in female sexuality. So they not on pornhub, they're probably reading Wattpad or sumn.
This would be Peterson’s assessment of the data
that's a great point, never thought of it that way buy your spot on!
Also don’t forget that “10%” of people that have the typically opposite sex temperament (so women, still straight who have male temperaments) that Dr.Peterson speculates about. Maybe although I heard that lesbian women’s still mimic the “typical” woman strategies and approach. I can’t remember where and I wish I did. I’d definitely love to see more information on both groups because I too am not an expert.
As a lesbian, no, absolutely not. My attraction works the exact same as straight women. If we do want porn we mostly just want something real. We want a connection between the couple, we want to see the love between the two. Intimacy matters a LOT to us. A lot of us just mostly end up skipping porn anyway. I know I only watch once ever 2 months but usually end up uninterested.
Lesbian women are actually very unlikely to watch lesbian porn, the LEAST likely out of any woman. It’s straight women who make up the majority of lesbian porn viewership amongst women. As a lesbian I’ve never met a single lesbian who watches lesbian porn, it’s honestly more amusing than arousing because it’s so terrible.
I wish I could say I was surprised. Porn is a rot on society and creates unreal expectations for sexual encounters in general. No wonder there are so many sexual offenders targeting young people.
Idk I hear these comments about unrealistic expectations around sex and I honestly do not get it. Baffled. Are you all just not talking to your partners about what you want? Not willing to make things happen for them as they are for you? Not sacrificing a little personal time in the gym to be as attractive as you want for each other? I truly believe you can have your cake and eat it too with enough communication and clear boundaries. I’ve got friends with concerns about toys even… I truly don’t understand it. Why be with someone who isn’t as down to please you as you are them? Why NOT make your sex life joyful and varied? Can you really not express your desires honestly to your partner? So what if they or you want to do some weird stuff you saw online? You can have your trad life and a hell of a time rocking each others worlds too, and I wouldn’t want anything less. Happily been with my spouse over a decade now, it just keeps getting better. TALK.
My sex life is awesome. But if my husband enjoyed watching teen girls get forcibly abused and raped by a gang of dudes in a van, I'd have issues with that...
Why would you have issues? Do you have such a low opinion of your husband, you’d think he’s a rapist solely based on his porn preferences?
Some people dont want to be with people who engage in degenerate and disgusting behavior.
Why would I have an issue...with a grown man feeling sexually aroused by the abuse and rape of a child.....hmm....
I’d be more concerned if my wife had the capability to filter reality from fantasy than the content observed.
You'd be concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy......? Re read your statement and come again sir. Watching something like child porn and getting off on it forms connections in your brain. It's like positive reinforcement of a bad habit. Eventually those connections are solidified to a point when that is the only thing you can get off on. At some point watching videos won't be enough and you'll end up victimizing a child yourself instead of just WATCHING a child be victimized. Which is bad enough. If you honestly think no one is being hurt by CSA porn your either a pervert with no moral compass or just completely incapable of rational thought
You’re putting words in my mouth from your own ideas in both your examples. Further you are dehumanizing me without grounds on conditions you raised yourself. You are also implying a higher morality on zero substance - an advantageous comparison when the subject wasn’t even at hand. You can surely do better than these moral disengagements. I said I’d be more concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy than the content observed. What is hard to understand about that for you? I don’t care what porn she watches if she knows the difference between fantasy and reality - and I trust as an adult, she does. Does reordering help? You’re creating the parameters to argue from, and then trying to fight me on an easily assailable position instead of the observation I made. No one’s arguing for rape or CP, I don’t know why your mind goes there, but that’s yours, not mine. Looks like you blocked me just after posting your last comment bellow. Bravo. Real contribution to human reasoning you’ve made here. We’ve all grown.
You keep saying "I'd be more concerned if she had the capability to filter reality from fantasy".... meaning you don't want her to be able to tell the difference between reality from fantasy....do you even read what you type or are you really just this dense? And If your SO was watching child porn...thats against the law in most places....so I'd hope you wouldn't be condoning that on any grounds. CSA is a crime you Dbag.
>No wonder there are so many sexual offenders targeting young people. I'd venture a guess that there are less of these offenders active these days, than days before porn. I'd guess catharsis plays a role. Humans suck.
Likely there are more since more people have access to material that is geared towards abuse of minors. It gives them the idea that it is ok, normal, acceptable. Eventually they will act on their fantasies.
We can only guess, though I'd guess people got away with much more back in the day, there were no recognized children's rights, and predators had no form of catharsis.
Yes but back then, when you caught a predator assaulting your child or your wife or your sister or mother. You could kill them without consequences. No one got upset when a rapist got their just deserts back then.
I think life for a sexual predator is much harder now than ever before. Nowhere to hide. You also had widespread slavery where people did what they wanted with slaves.
That link is from 2015
Now the most searched for category is INCEST porn. 🤦♂️ society is gone!
And?
In the last 5 years those stats have changed drastically. Pornhub Insights does frequent updates on their stats.
Alright and so you know what the new stats are?
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What?
I wonder how many of the people searching for teenager are teenagers. I hope all of them. Fucking so gross.
Separate from a discussion about pornography, why is an older individual showing sexual preference of a younger individual a bad thing? Younger women have a higher probability of having more child-rearing years left
It is perfectly easy to understand from a biological approach: Male desire female who has the best chance to bear children (high fertility), hence, young female. Teenagers are the youngest possible since they just finished puberty, and their fertility is the highest. This make them attractive to male in general. Throughout the world, for most of human history, the marriage age is relative low. For example, Ancient Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old (groom 14 years old). It is estimated that the average age of marriage is around 18-22 for both genders (The number is 32+ nowadays)
Its not “younger women” its “teenagers.” They are kids. Big difference between a 15-19 year old and a 22-25 year old.
Except pornhub just recently got in trouble for this and had to take a ton of videos down
A teenager in porn is minimally 18 years old and mostly they are 25 in real life. So i think you are overthinking this.
Bur you understand that there are no 15yo people in PH videos. As for the term “teenagers” it may just be a convenient way to search for younger actresses. And it also may be because creators put in tags and user have to search using those tags. Idk man. Porn is shit anyway. Its just arguing about degrees of shit.
Got it. So you’re objecting to what appears to be men seeking out porn involving women who are, in your eyes, kids
Yes
Yes because it’s completely unnatural for men to be attracted to young women.
Yeah, men and there *check notes* primal evolutionary desire to mate with women at their most fertile age, disgusting I tell you!!!
Teen girls 16-19 are and always will be and always have been the most sexually attractive demographic.
"teen" in porn is usually mid 20 women, has been for many years. If you don't search for "teen", you get grandma shit.
I disagree with you. It is perfectly natural for males to desire young females. Just take a look from a biological approach: Male desire female who has the best chance to bear children (high fertility), hence, young female. Teenagers are the youngest possible since they just finished puberty, and their fertility is the highest. In another word, male has primal evolutionary desire to mate with female at their most fertile age. Throughout the world, for most of human history, the marriage age is relative low. For example, Ancient Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old (groom 14 years old). It is estimated that the average age of marriage is around 18-22 for both genders (The number is 32+ nowadays)
I guess you didn't catch the obvious sarcasm in my statement?
Reply to wrong person. I intend to reply the thread you replied.
Really is
This is from 7 years ago lol
How does pornhub know if the searcher is a man or woman?
Accounts
So the stats are only for subscribers or for people that pay for porn?
You don’t have to pay to have an account
Does that mean that most accounts are free and that people can have free unverified accounts using any name and sex they choose?
I do
Data
Bit sussy
This is morbidly hilarious tbh, men want to see people that are the most inexperienced and women want to see other women
How do they tell the difference between men and women on the site?
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Searching teenager doesn't necessarily mean they're searching for minors. Some people like barely legal women.
Clearly, the members of this subreddit are getting increasingly prudish. Turning into a bunch of pearl clutchers. Clearly, “teen” in the context of Pornhub is referring to 18-19 year old adults. Why people here are making into something it’s not is strange.
"Standing up" for children is the best way to signal them virtues. "teen" in porn just means its not a 40 year old plastic porn actor.
Let’s be honest, if I watched a teen porn video only to find out later that the actress is 15 and not 18, it’s not like men would suddenly lose their boners and be crying about it. 15 vs 18 doesn’t matter at all for sex drive, they’re both sexy ages to be at.
It tracks
In Freudian psychology; I'd say society is stuck in a phalic state of its psychosexual development. If you think about it, the misdirected libido is one hell of a force both economically and socially. It also allows for sexual deviance to the point where making love is now the sought act of reliving a video one once saw. In Jungian Psychology, I'd say it's led to anima possession on men and animus possession in woman. It absolutely frighting to realize the after effects of pornography being one's first introduction to sex, which puts the first brick in that treacherous road to hell.
I’m guessing the second most searched for term by women is “massive bulbous pulsating steel-stiffened flesh rod that will make my co-worker jealous”. Just a hunch. 🤣
Nope, it's 'Gay (male)'
Sounds like a lot of people living out lost childhoods
Probably alot of unmarried guys in their teens and early 20’s with no girlfriends, dating is hard nowadays. Alot of women say they dont want or need men anymore. I would bet that if more women actually wanted to commit to relationships, or even be approached by a man for that matter, men wouldn’t be watching as much porn as they would have no need to do so. Also there are men that have had bad experiences with women and dont want to have to deal with another bad experience and wind up like people they grew up with getting 12 divorces. In the old days men went to prostitutes, now they dont have to.
Stop being an incel and become attractive
Lmao sure bud
https://i.imgur.com/xWDmY7w.jpg
That’s gross
WTF is wrong with people?
Bad? Yes, worst thing to happen? Fuck no.
It’s pretty insidious all the same, attacking humans at their basic level. It’s like poisoning the well.
This was found to be untrue in the feminism thread.
No, false information in the post. Look at pornhub offical data: in Filipinese for example women are the top viewers, more than men (60% )
Anyone who wants to impregnate a teenager is disgusting. Unrelated - Mary was 13 when she gave birth to Baby Jesus.
Lmao should have expected that. Me and the wife rarely watch porn but when we do it's lesbians. Not the teenage part thou even though most of the videos they look pretty young. I guess you could never really know for sure.
I for one am shocked
Does anyone have a link to the article from PH with the insights?
I know many people will post great arguments here, then after sometime, go back to searching the categories. This right here is the problem - humanity faces - irrespective of religion or country.
🙉 universe 25.. time to eliminate mankind .. self destructive mode starts now..
Ok, so men like to look at young women. And lesbians like to look at women. Nothing new under the sun.
I was so disgusted with myself I watched 3 hours of teen lesbian porn with the wife
It used to be stepsister.
What would God say?
brb, moving to Brazil
I think it may have a lot in common with many of porn viewers being teenagers themselves.
A lot of women read their porn, via literotica, Archive of Our Own, etc. That's never captured in any of these statistics.
This data is from 2015. This is the newest data: https://www.pornhub.com/insights/yir-2021#Gender-Demographics