I'm far enough in my conversion that my Rabbi recommended living a Jewish Life by the same author, I haven't read choosing yet but yes her approach is wonderful and super easy to read
From my own conversion journey: I'd also like to recommend "Here All Along", by Sarah Hurwitz.
It's as much a memoir as an "intro to Judaism", and so it's written more from the POV of a secular, non-observant Jew trying to rediscover what her Jewishness means to her, but it really maps onto the conversion journey well.
She also narrates the audiobook, and she reads quite well. She used to be a speech writer for a first lady, so the writing is on point too
(Sangue judeu/ascendência judia) Its like the only correct term in portuguese to say you have at least someone in your family who is jew by ethnicity, for ex, i also have ukrainian blood(ukrainian amcestry)... i think the term "blood" doesnt fit very well in english...
I dont know if jew blood is the proper english term, would be like jewish ancestry, descended from jews, got it?
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I was able to carve out enough time to read 40 pages a day of “choosing a Jewish life.” if you enjoy that book, you might enjoy the book “the red tent.” I’ve been working my way through that novel over the last couple of months.
There’s been more and more postings about people wanting to convert or non Jews seeking information about Judaism/Jewish perspective.
I find that interesting and am curious to know why.
Yeah, that’s a good point.
It’s nice to know that not everyone is buying into the “Jews are oppressors, committing genocide against the Palestinians” narrative that’s out there.
I was addressing your Zionist colonials comment, not the OP.
I guess if they actually go through conversion, learn about the history of the Jewish faith going all the way back to when the Jews were forced out of Israel by the Assyrians, then yes.
Yes. Judaism is an ethnoreligion, and conversion is tribal adoption, so he becomes one of the Jewish people. The modern state of Israel has the law of return where they allow all Jews (whether they were born Jewish, converted, or simply have recent Jewish ancestry) to become citizens. The indigenous people who have returned to their own homeland have the right to decide who can and cannot gain citizenship there.
So the actual natives can never be native but some random white dude from America can inherit native blood by taking part in some religious rituals.
Do you understand why this makes so little sense to anyone who isn't a Zionist?
I didn't say Palestinians aren't *also* native to the area. That's just not relevant to the matter at hand.
It's none of our business how this other group of indigenous people, Jews, choose to run their government or who they accept into their culture and peoplehood. Whiteness or brownness are modern American perceptions of race and ethnicity that mean nothing to Jewish religious law or Israeli law. It's up to them to make these definitions and decisions, not onlookers. And anti-Zionists, Jewish or Palestinian or neither, simply need to cope.
I can only speak for myself and my fiancée, who are in the process of converting.
The most simplistic reason is the Internet.
The both of us were raised Christian Protestant, I was actually raised Seventh Day Adventist. We’re both queer and genderqueer. 30 years ago we would’ve died in the closet, not knowing anything but what our parents taught us and what we were taught in school and church. My extended family raised me to teach me that I was possessed by Satan and in need of an exorcism. 30 years ago, I would’ve died—in all likelihood, killed myself, believing that.
Thanks to the Internet I was exposed to skeptical thought and other cultures. I learned about Theravāda Buddhism, Mesopotamian religion and culture, Japanese animist traditions, and, of course, Judaism. Thanks to the Internet, I learned about the Oven of Akhnai, I learned that Judaism doesn’t have a concept of original sin, I learned about Jewish opinions of the Binding of Isaac, what the meaning of Shabbat is and why Jews practice it. I learned that the Old Testament focuses on the incorporeality of G-d and that Jewish tradition exhorts people to continuously *do good*, that transgressions can only be atoned for and repented if you had first restored the person you transgressed upon. As opposed to the incessant focus in Christianity on the corporeality of God (wafers, wine) and how everyone was a sinner but Jesus died for our sins, so if you wanted to get into Heaven then you had to believe in him and confess your sins (you don’t really have to make it up to the person you actually hurt?!).
The other day I watched an hour talk on YouTube—uploaded 11 years ago—by an ex-Christian minister *who converted to Judaism* who said the same thing. Now even if you’re frightened to death of even *bothering* a rabbi and exploring a synagogue (very common for Christians to teach their congregations that Jews won’t welcome conversations and intrusions by others, ever) you can still study, and eventually, gain the confidence to actually contact a local synagogue and rabbi. You can even go to things like Reddit and Quora and ask Jews questions and *learn* even if you can’t go to a synagogue just yet. And on the inverse side, I was easily able to learn online about the experiences of ex-Orthodox and ex-Haredi Jews who left their faith and their communities—I was able to challenge myself and ultimately reaffirm my conviction to convert stronger than ever.
Thanks to the Internet, I and my fiancée learned that there were others like me (queer), we met each other, and we were exposed to Jewish thought when we never would have been otherwise. You know, Chabad doesn’t proselytise to non-Jews, but so much of their resources, and the resources of other organisations like Jews for Judaism, have made Jewish thought and history accessible to so many *non-*Jews.
In 1948 you suddenly had the Tribe of Israel establishing the nation of Israel—this electrified a lot of Christian thought amongst Christians, who became curious about actually reading the Old Testament and understanding who Jews are. Now in 2024 you have Israel in international spotlight, again—admittedly for the worst reasons—and now you have more thoughtful people, once again, wondering about what this Jewish homeland thing is and the history of the Jewish people as a whole.
I will say (as another queer ex-christian convert) +1 to the Internet. Finding Jwitter and the community around Maimonides Nuts, Jew Who Has It All, and @justsayxtian was so much like coming home in a good way. without Jwitter I like to think I would have still found my way back to my people, it just might have taken a little longer
I am glad you have found acceptance and meaning in the Jewish faith.
I was raised Christian, am Jewish by birth on my father’s side.
I even went to private Christian school and we were encouraged to visit other churches prior to confirmation.
Every church is different though.
I can speak only for the Catholic faith and my experience. The Catholics I know are Zionists and consider the state of Israel sacred due to their belief that Jesus lived his life i what is now Israel.
I can’t say for Protestants, I know they take the Bible literally and Catholics view it more like literature rather than a biography so to speak.
So I could see why Protestant churches discourage congregates from learning about other religions.
Best of luck on your conversation.
>for Protestants, I know they take the Bible literally
That is super duper dependent on the sect/movement/ denomination, etc. sometimes even dependent on the individual church and pastors. I grew up presbyterian and, no, we weren't taught that the Bible was literal and literally all happened.
Not only converts, I have met many new faces at shul who are Jewish but never set foot in a shul or haven’t since childhood. There’s real magnetic pull of all jewish souls at the moment, understandably. Welcome home to all of them
I've noticed, in the past year or so, a wave of a lot of new Jewish converts or people interested in that (USA specific). I don't know why but my main theory is that the social changes in the 2000s and 2010s that happened w atheism rising is starting to reverse as there's more awareness of other cultures.
I found it deeply meaningful that I finished (after years of living jewishly and reconnecting with my ancestry) my official conversion in August and then Oct 7 followed in the same season. Painful but meaningful in the sense that I was accepting ALL of what it means to be Jewish.
Maybe there’s something about the pain of it that is bringing Jewish souls forward more.
I’m happy for you.
I am Jewish by ancestry as well, but raised as a Christian.
My father’s side was Jewish, but this is something we (my family) don’t learn about or what to understand.
After the Oct 7th attacks I felt a huge urge to get back in touch with my Jewish roots. My grandmother converted to Mormonism, but my mother never supported it. Now today I convinced my family to return back “home” and we’re all converting to Judaism. :) I come from a very long line of Jews, and I want to continue it.
Honestly and I am ashamed of it. Conspiracy theories fuelling antisemitism made me wanna know more about judaism. I changed my mind rather quickly when I read about the Messianic age, possibility of conversion, Noahide laws, etc.
That's nothing to be ashamed of, you changed yourself out of extreme bigotry that's impressive and to be commended. Also you're not the first and you certainly won't be the last heck there was a KKK member who was harassing a rabbi and the rabbi ended up making friends with him, and he denounced the KKK and became a very devout Jew. Plus everyone has biases and prejudices they need to confront you just managed to find yours and fight some of them don't be ashamed of your past it brought you to where you are now.
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This is anecdotal, just something I've heard from a few people I know/know of - but some of these converts and potential converts have been on the fence about it for a long time, or still in the phase of reading and deeply considering contacting a rabbi and beginning the process. With everything that's happened since 10/7, and the hostile social environment, they have expressed that they feel now it is finally time and there is a sense of urgency.
My father who is a kabbalist seems to say it is because of the new era. I confess I only half listened to what he said... and didn't understand everything because I'm neither jewish nor a kabbalist.
But apparently, this is expected by the zohar in some form. something about the era of Michal, I think? I am not sure.
But he noticed that tendency as well but seems to think it was expected.
I was talking to a friend about this. Both of us felt our Jewish pride rise after October 7th, we were just starting from a different place on the scale. He was born Jewish and became more observant and more involved in the community, I realised I wanted to convert. Same rise, I was just a bit further back when it started.
My rabbi gave me What Is A Jew when I met with him for the first time. It’s one of my absolute favorites. No nonsense, informational, and so easy to understand. I bought Choosing A Jewish Life myself a year or so into my conversion after hearing how good it is, and it was also really helpful. If you want any other recommendations, I have a pretty large library of books like these, feel free to ask. ✨🩷
Anita Daimant is really good. I'm reading Living a Jewish Life (it's kind of like a sequel to that book). Also recommend the Dummies guide to Judaism. Sounds silly but all the basic day-to-day things are in there.
As a convert and a librarian, I'm going offer an opinion on a few books that I think are good to read fairly early in exploring Judaism, whether someone is a convert or a BT. Hope the suggestions help someone.
The Wisdom of Judaism: an introduction to the values of the Talmud by Rabbi Dov Peretz Elkins. A quick read on the surface, but one I come back every couple years ~ especially good when bogged down in how to "do Judaism" and all the details of rituals 😁
The Synagogue Survival Kit by Jordan Lee Wagner. Another excellent book ~ it explains the why and the history as well as the details of services. At least for me, it made services much more meaningful.
Finally, Exploring Jewish Tradition: a transliterated guide to everyday practice and observance by Rabbi Abraham and Rachel Witty. One of the easiest guides to basic Jewish practice/ritual that I've found.
Great that the rabbi sent these to you. I’ve read both and they’re fantastic. If you’re truly interested in converting and your nefesh is hungry for a Jewish life then you’ll find the books very interesting and won’t be able to put them down!
Here are some others I recommend:
- Here All Along - Sarah Hurwitz
- To Life! A Celebration of Jewish Being and Thinking - Harold Kushner
- A Book About You: Individuality and Soul Awareness - David Green
- To Be a Jew: A Guide to Jewish Observance in Contemporary Life - Hayim Donin
- Toward a Meaningful Life: The Wisdom of the Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson - Simon Jacobson
Mazel tov and all the best - the journey through Judaism is like no other…
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Very cool. Thank you for sharing. I have had interest in converting for years and have recently been learning torah and history. I will check these out
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Very kind gesture of the rabbi for giving you these books.
I’m currently reading Choosing a Jewish Life! It is written well and easy to read. I’ve not read the other so I’ll have to check it out.
I'm far enough in my conversion that my Rabbi recommended living a Jewish Life by the same author, I haven't read choosing yet but yes her approach is wonderful and super easy to read
I’ll have to add that one to my list as well :)
From my own conversion journey: I'd also like to recommend "Here All Along", by Sarah Hurwitz. It's as much a memoir as an "intro to Judaism", and so it's written more from the POV of a secular, non-observant Jew trying to rediscover what her Jewishness means to her, but it really maps onto the conversion journey well. She also narrates the audiobook, and she reads quite well. She used to be a speech writer for a first lady, so the writing is on point too
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Not loving the term “Jew blood”…
(Sangue judeu/ascendência judia) Its like the only correct term in portuguese to say you have at least someone in your family who is jew by ethnicity, for ex, i also have ukrainian blood(ukrainian amcestry)... i think the term "blood" doesnt fit very well in english...
Jew... blood???
I dont know if jew blood is the proper english term, would be like jewish ancestry, descended from jews, got it? Edit(my first language is not english)
I was able to carve out enough time to read 40 pages a day of “choosing a Jewish life.” if you enjoy that book, you might enjoy the book “the red tent.” I’ve been working my way through that novel over the last couple of months.
There’s been more and more postings about people wanting to convert or non Jews seeking information about Judaism/Jewish perspective. I find that interesting and am curious to know why.
It seems amazingly special in light of what is going on right now. Jewish souls returning maybe. 🙏
Yeah, that’s a good point. It’s nice to know that not everyone is buying into the “Jews are oppressors, committing genocide against the Palestinians” narrative that’s out there.
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That’s an oxymoron. How do you colonize what is your own homeland?
Next time please just report people who try to de rail threads like this.
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I was addressing your Zionist colonials comment, not the OP. I guess if they actually go through conversion, learn about the history of the Jewish faith going all the way back to when the Jews were forced out of Israel by the Assyrians, then yes.
Yes. Judaism is an ethnoreligion, and conversion is tribal adoption, so he becomes one of the Jewish people. The modern state of Israel has the law of return where they allow all Jews (whether they were born Jewish, converted, or simply have recent Jewish ancestry) to become citizens. The indigenous people who have returned to their own homeland have the right to decide who can and cannot gain citizenship there.
So the actual natives can never be native but some random white dude from America can inherit native blood by taking part in some religious rituals. Do you understand why this makes so little sense to anyone who isn't a Zionist?
I didn't say Palestinians aren't *also* native to the area. That's just not relevant to the matter at hand. It's none of our business how this other group of indigenous people, Jews, choose to run their government or who they accept into their culture and peoplehood. Whiteness or brownness are modern American perceptions of race and ethnicity that mean nothing to Jewish religious law or Israeli law. It's up to them to make these definitions and decisions, not onlookers. And anti-Zionists, Jewish or Palestinian or neither, simply need to cope.
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I can only speak for myself and my fiancée, who are in the process of converting. The most simplistic reason is the Internet. The both of us were raised Christian Protestant, I was actually raised Seventh Day Adventist. We’re both queer and genderqueer. 30 years ago we would’ve died in the closet, not knowing anything but what our parents taught us and what we were taught in school and church. My extended family raised me to teach me that I was possessed by Satan and in need of an exorcism. 30 years ago, I would’ve died—in all likelihood, killed myself, believing that. Thanks to the Internet I was exposed to skeptical thought and other cultures. I learned about Theravāda Buddhism, Mesopotamian religion and culture, Japanese animist traditions, and, of course, Judaism. Thanks to the Internet, I learned about the Oven of Akhnai, I learned that Judaism doesn’t have a concept of original sin, I learned about Jewish opinions of the Binding of Isaac, what the meaning of Shabbat is and why Jews practice it. I learned that the Old Testament focuses on the incorporeality of G-d and that Jewish tradition exhorts people to continuously *do good*, that transgressions can only be atoned for and repented if you had first restored the person you transgressed upon. As opposed to the incessant focus in Christianity on the corporeality of God (wafers, wine) and how everyone was a sinner but Jesus died for our sins, so if you wanted to get into Heaven then you had to believe in him and confess your sins (you don’t really have to make it up to the person you actually hurt?!). The other day I watched an hour talk on YouTube—uploaded 11 years ago—by an ex-Christian minister *who converted to Judaism* who said the same thing. Now even if you’re frightened to death of even *bothering* a rabbi and exploring a synagogue (very common for Christians to teach their congregations that Jews won’t welcome conversations and intrusions by others, ever) you can still study, and eventually, gain the confidence to actually contact a local synagogue and rabbi. You can even go to things like Reddit and Quora and ask Jews questions and *learn* even if you can’t go to a synagogue just yet. And on the inverse side, I was easily able to learn online about the experiences of ex-Orthodox and ex-Haredi Jews who left their faith and their communities—I was able to challenge myself and ultimately reaffirm my conviction to convert stronger than ever. Thanks to the Internet, I and my fiancée learned that there were others like me (queer), we met each other, and we were exposed to Jewish thought when we never would have been otherwise. You know, Chabad doesn’t proselytise to non-Jews, but so much of their resources, and the resources of other organisations like Jews for Judaism, have made Jewish thought and history accessible to so many *non-*Jews. In 1948 you suddenly had the Tribe of Israel establishing the nation of Israel—this electrified a lot of Christian thought amongst Christians, who became curious about actually reading the Old Testament and understanding who Jews are. Now in 2024 you have Israel in international spotlight, again—admittedly for the worst reasons—and now you have more thoughtful people, once again, wondering about what this Jewish homeland thing is and the history of the Jewish people as a whole.
I will say (as another queer ex-christian convert) +1 to the Internet. Finding Jwitter and the community around Maimonides Nuts, Jew Who Has It All, and @justsayxtian was so much like coming home in a good way. without Jwitter I like to think I would have still found my way back to my people, it just might have taken a little longer
I am glad you have found acceptance and meaning in the Jewish faith. I was raised Christian, am Jewish by birth on my father’s side. I even went to private Christian school and we were encouraged to visit other churches prior to confirmation. Every church is different though. I can speak only for the Catholic faith and my experience. The Catholics I know are Zionists and consider the state of Israel sacred due to their belief that Jesus lived his life i what is now Israel. I can’t say for Protestants, I know they take the Bible literally and Catholics view it more like literature rather than a biography so to speak. So I could see why Protestant churches discourage congregates from learning about other religions. Best of luck on your conversation.
>for Protestants, I know they take the Bible literally That is super duper dependent on the sect/movement/ denomination, etc. sometimes even dependent on the individual church and pastors. I grew up presbyterian and, no, we weren't taught that the Bible was literal and literally all happened.
What a lovely account of your life story. Congratulations
Not only converts, I have met many new faces at shul who are Jewish but never set foot in a shul or haven’t since childhood. There’s real magnetic pull of all jewish souls at the moment, understandably. Welcome home to all of them
I've noticed, in the past year or so, a wave of a lot of new Jewish converts or people interested in that (USA specific). I don't know why but my main theory is that the social changes in the 2000s and 2010s that happened w atheism rising is starting to reverse as there's more awareness of other cultures.
I personally know many Arabs who want to convert!
I found it deeply meaningful that I finished (after years of living jewishly and reconnecting with my ancestry) my official conversion in August and then Oct 7 followed in the same season. Painful but meaningful in the sense that I was accepting ALL of what it means to be Jewish. Maybe there’s something about the pain of it that is bringing Jewish souls forward more.
I’m happy for you. I am Jewish by ancestry as well, but raised as a Christian. My father’s side was Jewish, but this is something we (my family) don’t learn about or what to understand.
After the Oct 7th attacks I felt a huge urge to get back in touch with my Jewish roots. My grandmother converted to Mormonism, but my mother never supported it. Now today I convinced my family to return back “home” and we’re all converting to Judaism. :) I come from a very long line of Jews, and I want to continue it.
Honestly and I am ashamed of it. Conspiracy theories fuelling antisemitism made me wanna know more about judaism. I changed my mind rather quickly when I read about the Messianic age, possibility of conversion, Noahide laws, etc.
That's nothing to be ashamed of, you changed yourself out of extreme bigotry that's impressive and to be commended. Also you're not the first and you certainly won't be the last heck there was a KKK member who was harassing a rabbi and the rabbi ended up making friends with him, and he denounced the KKK and became a very devout Jew. Plus everyone has biases and prejudices they need to confront you just managed to find yours and fight some of them don't be ashamed of your past it brought you to where you are now. Edit: corrected some speech to text errors
This is anecdotal, just something I've heard from a few people I know/know of - but some of these converts and potential converts have been on the fence about it for a long time, or still in the phase of reading and deeply considering contacting a rabbi and beginning the process. With everything that's happened since 10/7, and the hostile social environment, they have expressed that they feel now it is finally time and there is a sense of urgency.
I can only speak for myself here but I have always been called to Judaism and now that i’ve had time to study it i have decided to convert!
My father who is a kabbalist seems to say it is because of the new era. I confess I only half listened to what he said... and didn't understand everything because I'm neither jewish nor a kabbalist. But apparently, this is expected by the zohar in some form. something about the era of Michal, I think? I am not sure. But he noticed that tendency as well but seems to think it was expected.
I was talking to a friend about this. Both of us felt our Jewish pride rise after October 7th, we were just starting from a different place on the scale. He was born Jewish and became more observant and more involved in the community, I realised I wanted to convert. Same rise, I was just a bit further back when it started.
I think it's because of the lack of support for Jews by the U.S.
I welcome all the converts, they have the souls of our kin.
My rabbi gave me What Is A Jew when I met with him for the first time. It’s one of my absolute favorites. No nonsense, informational, and so easy to understand. I bought Choosing A Jewish Life myself a year or so into my conversion after hearing how good it is, and it was also really helpful. If you want any other recommendations, I have a pretty large library of books like these, feel free to ask. ✨🩷
You should read the Jewish reason of why
Im also reading choosing a jewish life!! Shes got a few books
Both of those books are excellent!
Diamant’s book is such an easy and informative read. I don’t think you’ll have to work too hard to actually read it once you pick it up :)
Anita Daimant is really good. I'm reading Living a Jewish Life (it's kind of like a sequel to that book). Also recommend the Dummies guide to Judaism. Sounds silly but all the basic day-to-day things are in there.
Read as much as you can , but also be social with Jews and make sure you want this. You can have Jewish friends and not convert. Good luck.
Oh that put tears in my eyes, such a kind gesture! Thanks for sharing, you just brightened my day 😊
As a convert and a librarian, I'm going offer an opinion on a few books that I think are good to read fairly early in exploring Judaism, whether someone is a convert or a BT. Hope the suggestions help someone. The Wisdom of Judaism: an introduction to the values of the Talmud by Rabbi Dov Peretz Elkins. A quick read on the surface, but one I come back every couple years ~ especially good when bogged down in how to "do Judaism" and all the details of rituals 😁 The Synagogue Survival Kit by Jordan Lee Wagner. Another excellent book ~ it explains the why and the history as well as the details of services. At least for me, it made services much more meaningful. Finally, Exploring Jewish Tradition: a transliterated guide to everyday practice and observance by Rabbi Abraham and Rachel Witty. One of the easiest guides to basic Jewish practice/ritual that I've found.
I also just finished the audible version of Choosing a Jewish Life. I highly recommend it! It's less than five hours long and very well narrated 🙂
While you are at it Anita's Red Tent is so good. And she also founded Mayyim Hayyim. Check it out sometime. The rising tide movement is so cool.
Great that the rabbi sent these to you. I’ve read both and they’re fantastic. If you’re truly interested in converting and your nefesh is hungry for a Jewish life then you’ll find the books very interesting and won’t be able to put them down! Here are some others I recommend: - Here All Along - Sarah Hurwitz - To Life! A Celebration of Jewish Being and Thinking - Harold Kushner - A Book About You: Individuality and Soul Awareness - David Green - To Be a Jew: A Guide to Jewish Observance in Contemporary Life - Hayim Donin - Toward a Meaningful Life: The Wisdom of the Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson - Simon Jacobson Mazel tov and all the best - the journey through Judaism is like no other…
Anita Diamon is amazing!! I cried reading her wedding book
Aw what a kind gesture
You got given books? :o I buy them second hand. 90% are unread bar mitzvah gifts.
I read the book by Diamant. It's an easy read. Don't be intimidated.
Yes I just added Choosing a Jewish to my kindle and 5 other books including Judaism for Dummies 😂. I am converting as well and will identify as a reformist Jew. The best time to read and study is during Sabbath which lasts from Friday evening til Saturday evening. If you use a phone alot. It's best to e-read these books during your free time.
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OMG ME TOO
Very cool. Thank you for sharing. I have had interest in converting for years and have recently been learning torah and history. I will check these out
I read choosing a Jewish life about a year into my conversion process, I really enjoyed it. Finished my conversion last year!
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What they say?
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